JoAnne Kloppenburg Accepted Donation From Judge Sumi’s Husband
by Media TrackersOn April 5, Wisconsinites will go to the poll to pick a new supreme court justice. The election has gained prominence because many political analysts believe the Budget Repair Bill may one day end up before the high court. Throughout the campaign, challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg has claimed she is politically unbiased and impartial. However analysis of her political history, donations and comments have called that into question. Now Media Trackers has learned that Kloppenburg accepted a campaign donation from the husband of Judge Maryann Sumi, the judge who caused a firestorm of controversy by blocking Gov. Scott Walker’s budget repair bill.
Additionally, Sumi’s husband, Carl Sinderbrand, an environmental lawyer, also represents a party in a pending case in which Kloppenburg is defending the other side – the state DNR.
Underscoring the growing ties between her campaign and attempts to stop Walker’s agenda, Kloppenburg’s campaign website boasts an endorsement from a vocal member of the “Wisconsin 14” – one of the Democratic senators who fled the state, Sen. Chris Larson.
According to Wispolitics.com, Kloppenburg said during a debate with incumbent David Prosser this week that “she also wouldn’t need to recuse herself from any cases on the collective bargaining bill because she has remained independent during the protests in Madison.”
However, the donation from Sumi’s husband raises serious questions as to whether Kloppenburg, if victorious, could even hear the state Attorney General’s challenge to Sumi’s ruling, which could eventually reach the state Supreme Court.
The case in which Sinderbrand and Kloppenburg are both involved on opposite sides – is already in front of the state Supreme Court “awaiting opinion/decision.” The case, Curt Andersen v. Department of Natural Resources, involves a group of environmentalists and others who are trying to stop the DNR from granting a waste water discharge permit to a Green Bay company.
Kloppenburg also accepted a campaign donation from a second environmental lawyer, Dennis Grezezinski, of Midwest Environmental Advocates, who is also involved in the case. And she accepted money from a man with the same name as one of the parties in that case.
Court records list Kloppenburg as the attorney for the state Department of Natural Resources, the respondent in the case. Kloppenburg filed a brief with the court as recently as September 2010.
The amounts donated by Sinderbrand and most others to Kloppenburg’s campaign are small. That’s because of the rules needed to gain public financing, which Kloppenburg accepted. According to the Government Accountability Board, to receive public financing, she had to obtain donations from 1,000 separate contributors- but they couldn’t total more than $15,000. (Individual donations had to range from $5 to no more than $100). Like many others Sinderbrand gave just $5 on Dec. 26, 2010; however, in so doing, he helped Kloppenburg qualify for public financing for her campaign, so the amount didn’t matter so much, as the focus was to get 1,000 unique contributors.
(Media Trackers previously reported that Sumi’s husband also donated to the campaigns of three of the so called ‘Badger 14,’ and to Tom Barrett in the last gubernatorial election. Her son, Jake Sinderbrand, is a former employee of the AFL-CIO and SEIU).
In the social media arena, Larson, whose endorsement Kloppenburg touts, has thrown his support behind her with tweets like his March 20th post “Full house to hear JoAnne Kloppenburg for Supreme Court. Vote April 5th!” Larson has also been particularly incendiary on the matter of the budget debate and Walker, tweeting: “Walker & his Republicans continue to find new lows to go to as the power grab and culture of corruption continues” and “What Republicans did was an affront to democracy. Never shall a voter doubt which party stands for the working class, and which for the rich.”
Others listed as endorsing Kloppenburg include a series of failed Democratic candidates and/or prominent Democratic politicians, including:
- Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk
- Madison Mayor Dave Cieslewicz
- Rep. Fred Kessler
- Rep. Leon Young
- Scott Hassett, former DNR secretary and Democratic candidate for state Attorney General
Kloppenburg also boasts endorsements from a number of public defenders, including the recently retired head of the state public defender’s office, Nicholas Chiarkas. More disturbing she has endorsements from lawyers who work on behalf of criminal defendants’ rights, such as Keith Findley, co-director of the Wisconsin Innocence Project, which obtained the release of Steven Avery, now convicted in the murder of a young photographer.
Kloppenburg’s own campaign donations, the donations made by Sinderband, and who she has chosen to align herself with during the campaign clearly call into her question her motives for sitting on the high court and her capacity to bring impartiality to the bench.
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Obviously Kloppenburg is a leftist who supports the unions and will lie to win an election to in turn help the unions. Corruption by any other name.
Just remember Wisconsin, “liberals lie!”
She looks like Christopher Walken in drag. Only the TSA knows for sure.
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incestuous bunch of rats, these Wisonsin libs. Typical union "by any means necessary" deceit to prop up the corruption on the taxpayers dime.
Believe me, you're giving TSA way too much credit.
I'm loving this Spider Web unravel …Great job. Keep it up guys! I am certain there is more.
Why is there a picture of Edward Scissorhands in this article?
If we dig this infection out of the body politic, we better never take our eye off the ball again.
Now I want to know who is running for dog catcher.
The government corruption has to end! That would be a hell of a start to getting this country back on track!
These JUDGE'S are destroying AMERICA! One more Liberal Judge in the SCOTUS and the 2nd Amendment is over with, along with a bunch of our other rights! I keep hearing Obama is going to BAN GUNS and take away our 2nd Amend by "EXECUTIVE ORDER"!!! Nice huh? Get 'em while u can!
Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society, that the only justification of his existence is his service to society, and that society may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good.
— Ayn Rand
These WI leftists are just one big happy commune, aren't they ?
I can't believe your hysteria over a $5 campaign contribution! That's FIVE DOLLARS, for heaven's sake.
Can any of you honestly say that Republican candidates for the Wisconsin Supreme Court and current Republican Justices on that Court have NOT received election campaign donations from other Republicans and/or from influential special interests, including some with current or past links to legal cases in the Wisconsin court system that have or might end up before the Wisconsin Supreme Court?
I'd be very surprised if ANY experienced Wisconsin lawyer worthy of being nominated to run for a seat on that Court wouldn't have at least some linkages that could be seen as potential conflicts of interest. That's why Justices are required to recuse themselves if such cases come up. (And I seriously doubt that a $5 donation among 1,000's would be considered a conflict.)
I scrolled back by the article took one look at the picture and opened my mouth by reflex and drooled V-8 all over myself . She does look like Walkin.
Holy cow, "she" really does look like Christopher Walken in drag! LOL!!!
The Wisconsin Republicans need to open hearings into this corrupt "judge." Corruption and conflict of interest need to be addressed IMMEDIATELY! Let the lame stream media carp all they want – it's time the Republicans "grew a pair," repass the collective bargaining bill, and hold these dictators in black robes accountable for their corruption.
The ugly stick worked overtime on her!
You know there's money and 'favors' swirling around, with something this big….
That liberal bed in Wisconsin just keeps getting bigger and bigger – quite an orgy they're having.
CW is better looking
I'm becoming convinced that the Democrats are not a political party, they are a criminal conspiracy.
Yes, knuckles …deep, deep $hit.
So she lied.
And water is wet.
Is that picture of Kloppenburg real, or what? Ugh!
Why do we even vote. No matter who we vote in some single judge just overturns the will of the peoe with a strike of the pen.
This is exactly why government should have no say over donations of the political variety and should not go beyond requiring that all donations and expenditures to and from campaigns be made openly accessible by the public.
Articles just like this one are what folks must be able to witness in making their voting decisions.
I am so very happy I am not the only who thought that! TY!
It's Judge Scissorhands….
"Approach the bench please…."
"Um, no thanks, I'll stay back here."
This article is inaccurate on several points that I'm aware of (… which makes me question the accuracy of the rest of the article as well.)
The Supreme Court released its decision this morning on the case known as "Curt Andersen v. Department of Natural Resources." So that case is irrelevant to the upcoming Wisconsin Supreme Court election. As it happens, Judge Prosser AGREED with attorney JoAnne Kloppenburg's arguments on behalf of the DNR and joined in the majority opinion when he ruled in her favor. So, does that mean Prosser is part of Kloppenburg's "conspiracy" somehow? Of course not.
Also, in that case, the "environmentalists" (ie: local citizens and taxpayers IMPACTED BY THE POLLUTION) were NOT trying to stop the DNR from granting a waste water discharge permit to a Green Bay company. They were trying to get the permit AMENDED to require this huge factory to REDUCE its pollution. They weren't opposed to manufacturing or jobs, they just wanted basic pollution controls installed.
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They were fighting for the right to a public hearing about the permit, and wanted the chance to present expert testimony about the damage that could be caused when Georgia-Pacific Corporation DOUBLED the amount of phosphorus fertilizer pollution it dumped into the Fox River and Green Bay (when those waterbodies are already heavily polluted with phosphorus.) They also wanted to present expert testimony about the damage that could be caused by toxic mercury released from the plant and picked up by fish.
The citizens argued that the state permit violated the federal Clean Water Act and because the federal government had put the state in charge of issuing Clean Water Act permits in Wisconsin, that meant local citizens should have a right to a public hearing about the permit's non-compliance with the federal law.
DNR denied the citizens a right to a hearing, saying Wisconsin citizens couldn't challenge a DNR water pollution permit at a state level public hearing if the citizens argued only that federal standards were violated.
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The citizens argued that state law specifically says these state permits must comply with the federal law and the state is charged with implementing the federal Clean Water Act, therefore the state should have to defend their permit decisions under both state and federal laws at a public hearing. Citizens are supposed to have a right to such hearings.
Also, citizens CAN'T challenge state water pollution permits in federal court, so a state challenge is the only way citizens can question these government decisions.
Today, Judge Prosser sided with the DNR and the Republican majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court, ruling against local citizen rights to a hearing and in favor of an UNTOUCHABLE decision by the Wisconsin DNR. Prosser ruled against local families and sided with a powerful multinational corporation that has horribly polluted a local waterway and community in multiple ways.
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Do any of you drink water, eat fish or like to swim? Do you care about BIG GOVERNMENT decisions being beyond the reach of local citizens? Then you should side with the environmentalists on this one.
You should ask Prosser what he was thinking. Who is he protecting? Who is he working for as a "Justice" on the Wisconsin Supreme Court?
I disagree. She resembles very closely the wicked witch in the "Wizard of OZ".
WI voters please wake up and do not elect this activist judge to the State Supreme Court. She is not worthy.
Heh! Yeah, that too.
What is it with leftist women? I guess the deal they made with the devil sucks all the looks out of them. A cumulative effect of lying, cheating and stealing.
'………..sided with a powerful multinational corporation that has horribly polluted a local waterway and community in multiple ways……….."
all I need to know where you are coming from,……….
thanks anyway.
I don't care which bed she(?) sleeps on,….
just as long as it isn't mine,…..
what a dish.
Idunno. Maybe "… a wise Dutch lady, with the richness of her experiences, would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life"
The fact that political ideology, race and gender even come into play in selecting a justice is disconcerting in itself.
i disagree wholeheartedly that she resembles christopher walken. instead, she'd a dead ringer for edward scissorhands.
I do believe that is the real lesson in all of this. The question is will we remain free to implement what we've been taught?
You know this is a hard one to win either way. Sates that elect judges could end up with judges funded by the current RICO group (unions) and states that appoint judges could end up with judges selected as favors.
Ayn was well beyond her peers and her insight into human fallacies used to subjugate others is breath taking. I wish I could have peered into her eyes and asked one question, if tolerance of evil is a crime then what should the punishment be?
I believe she got hit with the whole tree.
yeah, happy as hyenas.
This forum is mathematically challenged in addition to its accuracy failures.
I suddenly have a -38p score by my name, but the actual scores don't add up to that. Count them yourself. I've only commented on this website today, and only on this one thread.
Even the SCORING is dishonest here!
She also looks like she should be wearing a ………….Cow Bell!
So do your research and show us the facts, dickwad.
How mad would you be if I said I gave Mark David Chapman five bucks Dec 8th 1980?
With all those surprising linkages about when was the last recusal? And this one already wouldn't recuse. It begs the question why do we address them as your honor when they obviously have so little.
Well…it's still a contribution and clear indication where one's political perspectives, beliefs, proclivities, inclinations etc etc lie.
face caught on fire and it got extinguished with the ugly stick!
The scoring is controlled by an algorithm used on Intense Debate. ID is used on many websites, not just this one. The reason your score dropped so fast is BECAUSE you just started here……..the longer you are here the better you can absorb some thumbs down.
interesting from "facts please". That sounds like an accusation not a fact. However I'll grant him one thing, citizens should be allowed to bring a suit without umpteen procedural challenges just there to suck cash out of a petitioner. That said, since when is trading a bad judge for another bad judge any improvement? In fact our legal system is run by a faction that puts on better shows than Hollywood and Broadway combined then has the audacity to demand respect and a halo to boot.
More like a genetic hybrid…………..More Cow Bell, Snip, Snip!
I say if you want a judgeship then you should be judged. Who have you mistakenly wronged? Have you done an act intentionally where the law wouldn't otherwise permit it? Don't lie. Everyone makes mistakes. Worse yet, there are no angels serving anywhere in government.
Thanks- that explains why the lefties have great scores sometimes.
I thought it was Bush's fault.
Why do all the "female" liberals look like nasty dykes?
Samll wonder they are pissd all the time.
Whenever one finds a putrid cesspool of political corruption, the name that is usually applied is "Chicago Politics". But I now realized that that name is misleading – the reality is that each and every one of these putrid cesspools is the result of actions by lunatic-left d-crat socialists, regardless of any city or state. So, we all must remember that
"Chicago Politics" = "Lunatic-left d-crat socialist politics".
Why are all these lefty whackjob chicks ALWAYS so f-in' ugly? +Hanzo+
Because I wouldn't let them have a pic of my dog's @ss. +Hanzo+
LOL!! Bush's fault…….. I should have told him that.
Thanks for the info, but I'm afraid this "algorithm" is just a fancy name for a rigged scoring system. If all the "Intense Debate" sites are like this, then they obviously aren't legitimate discussion boards.
Judging from the other comments here, this website isn't interested in actual discussions or debate… just in creating emotional out-of-control hysteria over nothing.
I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the "people" commenting on this forum are really just a group of low-level paid staff in a big corporate computer center in India, and each staff person is assigned hundreds of e-mail addresses and "individual identities" so they can post comments in thousands of forums like this all over the world. It gives the appearance of a real grassroots citizen uprising, but actually serves only corporate interests by harrassing people who are actually PROTECTING OUR FREEDOMS by fighting against total corporate control.
Wake up people — if any of you ARE real people…
First of all, ID is used on liberal leaning websites. We have raging libs here with very high scores, well over 100.
Secondly, I read your original posts with interest and planned on looking up the info myself, instead of just believing what you wrote so I did not thumb you down. That's what most of us do here. You should have provided some links to support your statements, that would have made a big difference. Also, you lost credibility when you couldn't resist badmouthing the evil corporations.
No links, hysterical talking point rants are a sure fire way to not get taken seriously.
I guess you aren't a real person, sisty (did you see the post below from 'facts' ?).
You're off my Christmas card list.
Where is her broom and flying monkeys?
Quick, get the bucket of water!
Excellent collection of facts, thank you. By the way, Georgia-Pacific Corporation is owned by….(wait for it),,,,,,The Koch Brothers!
Drat! Busted!! Sisty is just a figment of my imagination; Regards, Sisty's MacBook (HAL).
What is a fact is nothing you commies say is the truth as you would not know it if it wacked you in the head.
By now it is clear we all understand that not a word you kenyan camel humpers say or put in print is anywhere near bearing the truth or fact.
This is about corrupt judges and your blogging about a water act.
Here is a fact – your time here is getting short, get your things in order, clean up is coming.
So owning a corporation should be illegal? CREATING WEALTH (a concept you clearly no nothing about) i.e. what has propelled this nation forward for over two centuries-should be illegal?
Oh that's right, only when it's an individual i.e. private citizen is it wrong. Government and central banks STEALING money from individuals is ok though. Nevermind they're not accountable for their own actions, and nevermind it's the people's money that they gamble with (as compared with the individual, who risks only his own money-unless you have an illegal coercive monoploly of course i.e. government assistance, and his own reputation). Nooo, how dare one person actually create wealth?!?! HOW DARE THEY?!?!
Perhaps you should move to Venezuela. I hear they don't have any eviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil private corporations, and the government run ones would neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvver pollute the environment……neither would Statist China…..oh wait.
By the way, where were the 'facts'?
Did you read the full article? Did you understand what was written? I'll type slowly, try to follow along….
The SIZE of the contribution was meaningless. The FACT of the contribution is what is troublesome…
She HAD to get 1000 contributions, and they had to add up to LESS THAN $15k, in order to gain PUBLIC FINANCING. Basically, the $5 was a "yes" vote, saying she should get public funds. She needed 1000 "yes" votes. But couldn't get too much $ with those votes, or she would have to raise campaign funds all on her own, rather than have the taxpayer fund her campaign. So, while $5 isn't much, adding to her "yes" tally, helping her get to 1000 "yes" votes, gave her the keys to the public funding vault… Way more money than she could have raised for herself for her campaign.
Orchard…
There's no excuse for rigging a score, regardless of how it leans or doesn't lean. A score should represent simple addition and subtraction, period, not some mysterious site owner's interpretation of the significance of the sums of several votes. Use of an "algorithm" is just manipulation of simple sums. It's dishonest.
Slow down there, Regurgitator. No one has attacked the notion of free enterprise here. Perhaps you've been snorting too much Koch? Take deep breaths for five minutes, and try to relax.
Here's a link to today's Wisconsin Supreme Court's decision on "Curt Andersen vs. Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources."
Be sure to read the 2 dissenting opinions at the end of the decision:
http://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocumen...
Here's a quote from an article showing that the REPUBLICAN candidate in this election voted to ALLOW judges to vote on cases where they have a clear conflict of interest:
"Justice David Prosser, who is running for re-election April 5, voted 4-3 against proposed rules that would have required them and other state judges to recuse themselves from cases in which one of the litigants had contributed more than $1,000 to their election campaign."
The 4 Justices who voted against the restriction were all Republicans, of course.
Source: "Plain Talk: Prosser takes low road on conflicts of interest." http://host.madison.com/news/opinion/column/dave_...
How come your score is higher than mine ?
Yes and the denial was done during the 8 yrs of Dem Gov Jim Doyle, official Obama suck up, by his politically appointed DNR….so guess he was in to the Koch Brothers also. Yes, there seems like there needs to be local citizen right to comment, but there is also a limit to being able to hold things up. Sometimes you lose. This idea of going after judges to stack the courts with your political union cronies isn't anything to brag about or above anything the Koch Bros stand for or against. They've employed alot of people in that same community you are talking about. I see all of the WI teachers and SCL union print and email media as a teacher and union member, and it's full of garbage about getting our friends on courts and then running the govt from the court system. Not something to be proud of at all.
Easy on the people trying to create free enterprise,Quayle. We could use the……(wait for it)…….
jobs.
Prosser isn't the only Republican judge on the Wisc. Supreme Court propped up by HUGE $400,000+ corporate donations to his campaign. Two other current Court judges also received enormous help from undisclosed donors to corporate front groups, as follows.
Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce (estimated $1.76 million), Club for Growth Wisconsin (est. $507,000) and Coalition for America's Families (Republican Front) (est. $480,000) spent undisclosed amounts on "issue ads" supporting Michael Gableman in his successful bid for the Wisc. Supreme Court.
See: http://www.wisdc.org/pro08-103914.php
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Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce (estimated $2.2 million) and the Club for Growth Wisconsin (est. $400,000) spent undisclosed amounts on "issue ads" supporting Annette Ziegler in her successful bid for the Wisconsin Supreme Court. The group “Concerned Business & Industry” ($36,100) also made independent expenditures for Ziegler.
See: http://www.wisdc.org/pro07-103567.php
Gableman and Ziegler joined Prosser in favoring the Kochs and Georgia-Pacific in today's Wisc. Supreme Court decision on "Curt Andersen vs. Wisc. Dept. of Natural Resources."
They all had huge conflicts of interest in this case.
I supported the "Impartial Justice" legislation and all efforts to get ALL private money donations OUT OF JUDGE RACES and to provide public financing of these races to minimize this potential for judge influence.
It's bad for ANY party or ANY interest group to own a judge on Wisconsin's Supreme Court. I don't care whose side you're on.
Come to Wisconsin for the Cheese, not the WoMEN
Remember the computer term GIGO, it applys to liberal gals too, UIUO, ugly inside, ugly outside
I'm starting to question my stance on abortion
SORRY, you only are obsessed with pedophilia and racism, SORRY. MY BAD. But actually, a simple clicking of your profile shows that you DO bash rich people for being rich, and you DO bash those who use 'free enterprise' (a TERM which I incidentally said NOTHING about…for good reason…because you've probably got a perverted view of what 'free enterprise' means and encompasses) to CREATE wealth.
So if you supposedly don't have a problem with 'free enterprise', what is with your harping on the Kochs? You know, other than the fact that you're simply towing a meaningless line like a good anti-conceptualist? Other than the fact that your obedience to tribe supersedes your willful cognition?
And finally, you once again make yourself look like the unintelligent, anti-conceptual ignoramus you so eloquently are when you result to name calling instead of making an actual argument or point (That requires using your mind i.e. conceptualizing, something you clearly live your life trying not to do) .
Where are those 'facts' again?
Free enterprise is fine. Crony capitalism of the s(n)ort the Koch Brothers are engaged in in WI is another matter.
Not an ugly stick…she just chased a fart through a keg a nails.
Hmmm, again you are trumped by reason. What's the matter, can't formulate a coherent thought with actual evidence to back it up?
Thanks for demonstrating you're an utter moron….again.
And fyi I don't even know who you're talking about. Nor does it matter. I'm guessing that one of the Koch bros is named Dana and all you can do is resort to an insult. I don't give a f about the Koch bros. No surprise that a little mind like yours can't see than NOTHING I said has anything to do with them, not even my question to you. It's YOU who keeps bringing them up. It's YOU who has just projected your own insecurity to the rest of the world. Keep it up
Still waiting for those facts, too.
Why do you hate successful persons?
Oh that's right, because they're successful….
….and you're not. Here are some tissues.
Heh
Yes, but can she dance?
I bribed the algorithm………..Bwaahaaahaahaaahaahaa!
Nothing was "held up." While the local citizens spent thousands of dollars and more than 5 years winning, losing, winning and losing appeals all the way to the Wisconsin Supreme Court , Georgia-Pacific was free to start and continue operating under the new increased pollution permit with no interruption. In fact, the DNR and Georgia-Pacific worked so well together that they were able to obstruct and drag out the case on technicalities for so long that the 5-year permit had EXPIRED ALREADY before the Supreme Court had a chance to rule on whether citizens had a right to a public hearing. How's that for justice?
The citizens never did get to present expert witnesses on the pollution issues involved in their original request for a hearing.
Yes, I agree with you that Doyle was a disgusting corporate brown-noser too, but Democrats are generally, as a group, quite a bit more balanced when it comes to writing and enforcing pollution control laws. Republicans just want deregulation – ANY deregulation – no matter how many "little people" get hurt. It's the corporate way.
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The Republican-led votes on today's Wisconsin Supreme Court decision fit that pattern well. A couple of billionaires are getting away with polluting a major river, bay and Great Lake that BELONG TO THE PUBLIC and the public now has no way to challenge whether the billionaires' permit complies with federal law.
The billionaires get away with it because they can afford to dump boatloads of money into Wisconsin Supreme Court elections through phony front groups.
This article attacking Kloppenburg for her so-called "conflicts of interest" is just petty and ludicrous in comparison to what Republicans Prosser, Gableman and Zigler did today.
Do you people know ANYTHING about the huge amounts of private outside money flowing into Wisconsin Supreme Court races over the last 6 years? The public financing was supposed to help counteract the imbalance and conflicts of interest created by that outside money. By accepting the public financing option, candidates agree to limit their total fund raising and spending, in the interest of keeping judges as impartial as possible.
The problem is that REPUBLICANS on the federal U.S. Supreme Court decided last year that front groups, like the Club for Growth, can raise and spend UNLIMITED amounts of private money from UNKNOWN donors (including donors from outside the U.S.) on TV attack ads against U.S. political candidates of any kind. These rich secret donors (like the Kochs, who brag about it) are blatantly buying judges like Prosser, Gableman and Zigler in Wisconsin.
To learn more, see http://www.wisdc.org/wdc_supreme_fin_summary.php
Doing business in Wisconsin… yeah, that's crony capitalism. You nailed it, brother . Can't have factories. Of course, this has nothing at all to do with the Koch Brothers being the latest hate target of the left. Nothing at all.
And if more people lose their jobs – well…………………..
Wisconsin has a Koch problem, not because the Koch brothers are rich, but because they live somewhere else in the country and are blatantly using their wealth to takeover OUR state. They aren't Wisconsin voters. They aren't Wisconsin citizens. They don't pay taxes here. Their corporate entities that operate in Wisconsin have wiggled out of paying most corporate taxes. The Kochs have no RIGHT to buy our elections and control OUR state policies. This is OUR state, not theirs.
In this country, it's supposed to be "one resident equals one vote."
The Kochs think it's "one dollar equals one vote," and they have most of the dollars so…
Judging by recent events, I'd say the unions, and their leaders, own your state. And many other states too, plus the federal gov't.
I fell into a snake pit, stumbling onto this site. It's embarassing and overkill that a lot of people here treat each other like excrement. Intense Debate? This is geared for blood-thirst. Many of you have been playing too many violent video games. Much of what I've seen here is poisonous invective from a bunch of foul-mouthed mean-spirited child-level grunts for an oligarchy that would have you kill each other for their sport and upcoming real-estate purchases. It seems you have chosen no better path than to pass this insane inheritance onto your own children, who will possibly destroy this planet further with their complete ignorance of what's really important to their survival, because their parents only cared about themselves. (Maybe this is what happened to Scott Walker, sadly enough.) When you stop stabbing your brothers and sisters in the back, and have studied clear facts about who really holds the keys to the doorway that you keep thinking you have control of, and not venomous lies made by your irresponsibly sensationalist and corrupted media, then you might have something worthwhile listening to. For now, a lot of you smug people who erroneously think you know what is really going on are doing nothing but spouting senseless hate, and that isn't productive for anyone at all, right? Go have some intelligent and open-minded discussions with sincere people who genuinely care about humanity, put away your petty fears about where your next ill-advised taunt is going to come from, and keep your poison away from evolving into something bigger and better, because you're bringing us all down; you're serious bummers.
– When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money.
Remember this Cree prophecy when you're vehemently supporting destructive forces, because your survival will be threatened by what you're apparently duped into believing is going to change your world for the better.
Don't bother with replies to this; your words will be as useless as they already have proven to be.
Oh, and about those mature cat-call comments on JoAnne Kloppenburg:
Look at your own perfection, hmm?
If your criteria for choosing a judge is sex-appeal , then Prosser should be your man.
Prosser acts like a child with his outbursts (sound familiar?), in a professional setting no less, not to mention that he effectively looked the other way on at least one occasion during a case for a child plaintiff who was molested by a clergy pedophile, dismissing the kid's blatant and verifiable plea for justice. Maybe your kids should experience the same nightmare from Prosser's blatant disregard for human rights. Yeah, that's the world you want to live in. No candidate is perfect on all counts; they're human. However, when we're talking about meting out justice for humanity, Prosser is just about the biggest loser on the bench, by far. When you're an individual who's stuck battling a corporation, and you lose a a good chunk of your livelihood because you trusted that Judge David Prosser was on your side, you'll be the whiny b tch that he laughs about all the way to the bank. He's in the corporate pocket, same as Clarence Thomas and Antonino Scalia. Ms. Kloppenburg's integrity, no matter what crap bias you're being fed about it, is a way better choice, no matter what ugliness has been exaggerated here.
So you do have a problem with successful persons, precisely because they're successful. You do have a problem with someone owning a corporation, and, moreover, what you called 'free enterprise'. You just put your foot in your own mouth, good going.
You are an ignoramus who equates wealth with political power, like all anti-conceptualists do. If you cannot grasp the distinction between the two, no conversation or debate with you has any purpose. Moreover, I doubt you live anywhere near Wisconsin. Go back under your bridge.
Really though…is there a worse example of a pot calling a kettle black than a leftist ignoramus crying about elections being 'bought' and/or election fraud?
(Of course not, its Alinsky 101 to take what you're guilty of yourself and accuse your opposition of it).
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