Media Matters vs. Citizen Journalists: Who Will Win in the End?
by Liberty Chick“Where were you when George Bush was President?” You know that question well. It’s been asked of each of us more times than any of us would care to count. Do you know how I usually answer it?
I was home, enjoying my life. I went to work every day and focused on doing the best job that I could do. When I wasn’t working, I hung out with family and friends. I went to baseball games, and barbecues, and obscure little hole-in-the-wall joints to hear some of my favorite live music over a couple of Guinnesses. Yum.
Why? Because while George Bush was president, we had a media establishment that was challenging our government, not our citizens.
I wasn’t necessarily happy with the direction of the country in those days. But I could sleep at night, knowing that we had media that pressed George Bush and our Congress on every single issue. I could know at any given moment what the “death count” was in Iraq because just about every channel splashed a persistent counter in the bottom corner of the television screen. When bills like the Patriot Act were first introduced in Congress, I never lacked for any detail on the dangers of the legislation. There was barely a single detail that went uncovered in the daily political grind. When there was a scandal to research and report, I certainly never had to do that myself. There were reporters who did all that.
Yep, I’m actually missing the Bush days now. I had so much more free time. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve always done my homework and researched issues on my own anyway. I recognize that all media is biased to some degree (and has been for quite some time). But I could always count on the media to challenge the government in the days of George Bush. I wrote my fair share of letters, I called and complained about the spending, even attended a few protests, but I can’t say that I ever felt there just wasn’t anyone challenging the president in the mainstream media. Quite the contrary, there was never any lack of DC pushback from the collective press in those days.
But we live in extraordinary times today. There now exists this giant, open cavity where that healthy pushback against government used to be. And when the mainstream media stepped away from that opening in 2008, two things happened:
- The laws of nature pulled everyday American citizens in to provide that cover, and
- The political machine took notice – and it assembled its sledgehammers
Perhaps one of the more important changes to have taken place this decade has been not only that of new media, but a shifting political infrastructure, thanks to a little PowerPoint presentation from 2003 that provided in part a blueprint for our friends over at Media Matters.
“The Conservative Message Machine Money Matrix”: Precursor to Media Matters
The “conservatives” of today are probably a more varied label than that of the earlier 1950’s and 1970’s. I think it’s a label that’s a misunderstood one. Many of today’s conservatives are not far right – they are fiscal and constitutional conservatives., and some would even be considered more socially liberal. (I think I fall into that category). But it is that old school conservative label – that manufactured image of the “oppressive radical far right-wingers” – that leftists love to hate. And it’s that label that became the intense focus of a major Left wing initiative in 2003.
The roots of a network of organizations that belonged to that initiative was aptly recounted by author Byron York at a Hudson Institute Event on November 30th, 2006 to discuss his upcoming book, “How Vast the Left Wing Conspiracy?”,
“…the thing for me started in 2003; I wrote a number of articles for National Review – and I didn’t write them as a connected series or anything, but I wrote articles on MoveOn.org, George Soros, America Coming Together, the Center for American Progress – the liberal think tank founded by the former Clinton White House chief of staff John Podesta, David Brock’s Media Matters for America – the media watchdog group, and also Air America Radio, and at some point it dawned on me that all of these were not happening separately. They were actually interrelated. And that was actually the genesis of the book, and most of those became chapters in the book, along with a few other topics like Michael Moore and the rise of guerilla documentaries.
The thing that was important to me about these groups was that they were working together. There were very consciously trying to coordinate their efforts along a variety of fronts. Shortly before the election – this is 2004 – I went to an event at the Center for American Progress and Al Franken called in to the event from the Air America studios and said, “I feel like I’m part of a team. We’re building an infrastructure incredibly quickly.” And that’s true – that’s what they were doing.”
At the time, York hadn’t immediately realized what he’d stumbled onto. But he knew there were too many similar activities occurring for it NOT to be coordinated.
And in fact it was coordinated – by Rob Stein, once senior strategic advisor to Democratic National Committee chairman Ron Brown, and U.S. Commerce Department chief of staff for President Bill Clinton.
In 2002, when Democrats lost the election and Republicans had gained control of Congress, Rob Stein made it his mission to find out what happened, after progressive donors and advocacy groups had poured unprecedented amounts of money into that election.
Stein set out to research and document what he believed to be the reason – an intricate network of organizations funded by a small handful of wealthy conservatives who, in his view, controlled the media in America and drove the political agenda. He invested nearly a year’s worth of his time and effort, documenting over 80 organizations and studying their funders and their relationships with one another, eventually condensing his analysis into about 40 PowerPoint slides, a presentation that is now infamously titled “The Conservative Message Machine Media Matrix.”
After consulting with a few Democratic operatives and wealthy investors, Stein decided to take his show on the road and bring it directly to the people who needed to see and hear it most. He targeted the rich progressive elites, appealing to their philanthropic consciences to convince them of the need to build a permanent infrastructure that would embed progressivism into the fabric of the American political system over the long-term, rather than simply offer short term campaign donations. His vision – to tear down the conservative infrastructure and replace it with a progressive one. A primary component would be a new media foundation and watchdog to force out the conservative message.
Stein teamed up with George Soros and several other financial elites to assemble a group of seventy millionaires and billionaires together for a highly confidential presentation of his material and a discussion on developing a long-term plan. By the end of the presentation, donors were already pledging their donations to a new organization that would build the necessary infrastructure to counter the “conservative message machine.”
This began the first phase and the birth of the Democracy Alliance (DA), which would function as a collaborative network of elite donors to plan and provide funding to carefully selected organizations that would be supported or created to serve a specific purpose within the new progressive infrastructure.
The planners agreed that Labor Unions would be a key anchor in the infrastructure and function as the foundation for advocacy organizing. Subsequently, Change to Win President and SEIU Secretary Treasurer Anna Burger was elected as Vice-Chair of the Board of DA, and Stein its temporary Chair. Eventually, Taco Bell heir Rob McKay would become Chair. The group also stressed the importance of keeping the alliance separate from the traditional Democratic Party operations, allowing it to stand as an individual progressive unit to influence change.
Another anchor of this new infrastructure would be the issue advocacy organizations, like ACORN, which would serve as the network’s mobilizing units.
And lastly of course in the progressive infrastructure would be a new media network for progressives - a media watchdog group to neutralize the conservative messaging platform, and serve as a hub for pushing information to and from the various other groups. Enter Media Matters, and some of its (extremely partisan) tentacles.
In a 2005 piece that was later written by Don Hazen, Rob Stein provides his analysis of the conservative infrastructure that the progressives would need to counter:
“Starting with just a handful of groups, including the Heritage Foundation, in the early ’70s, the conservatives built a new generation of organizations – think tanks, media monitors, legal groups, networking organizations, all driven by the same over-arching values of free enterprise, individual freedoms and limited government.
Stein describes how the message machine works. If Rush Limbaugh wants something on vouchers – it’s immediately in his hands; if Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly needs a guest to talk about the “death tax,” he’s got him from one of the think tanks. Stein estimates that 36,000 conservatives have been trained on values, issues, leadership, use of media and agenda development. These are not the elected officials, but rather the cadre of the conservative network. Stein figures that the core leaders of the Big 80 groups he studied are about 2,000 people who make between $75,000 and $200,000 and have all been trained in the Leadership Institute.”
Fair enough. I don’t think that many would try to dispute that a body of sources exists for a variety of policy areas, much in the same way that any outlet would reach out to a university or corporation for such sources. And quite honestly, elected officials rarely provide any actual content of value and instead often spend their 3 minutes of air-time filibustering the questions; I think you’d find many who’d prefer to hear what a think-tank fellow has to say anyway.
After Rob Stein’s presentation was made and the Democracy Alliance first loosely established in late 2003, Media Matters was one of the first groups to be funded, its purpose and priority in the new progressive infrastructure firmly established. While the Media Matters website was registered on October 27, 2003, the organization is publicized as being founded the following April and launched in May, 2004.
Not surprisingly, before he became a leftist, Media Matters’ founder David Brock, the former conservative attack-journalist known for smearing Anita Hill and the Clintons in his previous books, penned another book titled “The Republican Noise Machine“; it may as well have been named the same thing as Stein’s PowerPoint presentation. That book launched in May 2004, the same time as the Media Matters website.
It was only two years prior that Brock had released his “confessional” tell-all work, which was received by some outlets with a little less enthusiasm than his new teammates.
(Ironically, another of Brock’s previous books on Anita Hill was underwritten by the John M. Olin Foundation. According to Media Matters’ own Conservative Transparency website, that organization “gives large sums of money to promote conservative programs in the country’s most prestigious colleges and universities.” [now closed])
Hmmm. I wonder if Brock gave the money back when he switched teams? But I digress…
In the end, Rob Stein firmly believed that by having this new infrastructure in place, it would become the progressives’ path to moving America to the left, away from its conservative roots.
“Conservatives have built remarkably successful institutions and strategic alliances in the 20th century that presumably are consistent with their values and, we know, are effective in promoting their beliefs.
“Progressives have different values, this is the 21st century, the conservative infrastructure is in place and will continue to grow, and so we have to do it all differently,” Stein adds. “We must build from both the ground up and from the top down. We must be technologically sophisticated and new media, narrowcast-savvy. We must build institutions capable of great flexibility to deal with the rapid pace of change in the world. We need a new generation of leaders able to integrate the local/global complexity of the world to manage our institutions in 2010, 2020 and beyond.”
Complete story of Rob Stein’s “Conservative Message Machine Money Matrix” here.
We’ve entered a period in media history that I believe is unprecedented. It’s a time when citizen journalists have stepped up to a duty that the traditional media abandoned for its own special interests. The result has been nothing short of amazing, as we’ve seen bloggers uncovering corruption and scandal, regular citizens pouring through documents and research to bring answers to the forefront and force investigations, and everyday Americans armed with their weapons of new media capturing truth on video. Citizens are pushing the issues when the hired journalists fail to step up.
Meanwhile, some of today’s journalists are handicapped by their special interests. Their funders. Their political operatives. Their progressive infrastructure. Outfits like Media Matters will proclaim to be “correcting conservative misinformation”, when in reality they’re completely ignoring information. One can only assume they take their orders from someone, but which is it – their funders? the DNC? the White House? When a real story that truly warrants investigation begins to emerge, they seem to focus only on what they’re told to look at, not on what needs to be looked at. Or worse, perhaps special interests intervene and direct the story otherwise, intentionally away from the very facts that connect it.
Like soil, that crucial information remains buried under a layer of old growth unless its tilled.
The reality is, today’s everyday citizens are often better at digging up the dirt until the surface is well-tilled, raw and ripe for new growth. (Perhaps that’s the Founding Fathers’ farmer instinct in all of us?)
And there is a LOT of digging yet to be done.
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Yes, under President Bush, the American people had lives. The politicians were elected to take care of the dirty business of politics. That's the American way. God Bless the people of Arizona.
Maybe Media Matters for America should change their name to Media Matters for Liberals.
Obviously, Liberalism wouldn't even exist in America with any power if it wasn't for the MSM doing the dirty work in the trenches.
"Because while George Bush was president, we had a media establishment that was challenging our government, not our citizens."
Well said!
Never bet against the ingenuity, grit and sheer will of Americans. Ever. You libs are running out of the dark corners you use to hide in thanks to Citizen Journalism at the same moment the economic argument for liberal journalism is sinking like a rock to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
Great points and an excellent answer to a question I too get almost daily. Thanks for the insightful response. Come check us out athttp://www.LibertyJuice.com !
The citizen media will win in the end.
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Really? The media challenged George Bush? The media challenged the Patriot Act? The media constantly reported on the death count in Iraq? Maybe in 2008 they did. But in the early days of the Bush administration, say 2001-2005, the media was AWOL. Did they challenge claims of weapons of mass destruction? Did they show how the tax cuts led to deficits? No, they were too busy trying to show their own false patriotism and support of the Bush administration.
And I am not even talking about FoxNews here. I am talking about the so-called MSM.
Progressives all fall in lock step naturally due to the lemming instinct. As to the constant George Bush question (where were you?) take note Republicans were voted out on a very conservative campaign run by Democrats. Take note that Bush's approval rating was in the toilet about to be flushed. When Democrats failed to fulfill their promises like Republicans, the tea parties sprang up. The question that needs to be asked now of Democrats is "Where Are You?" It seems Democrats are getting a free pass in spades. If Bush did it, by golly they get to do it too, with interest! this juvenile mindset has to go. It is nothing but a straw man argument to deflect bad behavior.
My suggestion is tea parties started playing very loud tape of campaign rhetoric by the Democrats. Hold up posters as well of all the empty promises. Reform is not synonymous with take over.
The diagram of the cluster of haters should give anyone with a concern for where America is headed, some pause.
It was Soros' baby, his sheer disdain for Bush that pushed MediaMatters and all it's little off spring into action.
All their messages are the same, it's always the conservatives fault, it's all about rousing people up with a words meant to incite anger, it is NEVER truly about the issues or God forbid, the TRUTH. They have done their research well, it takes so little to get the little guy to feel slighted and give him or her a target for their anger.
But we had a government that challenged its' citizens … I'm none too pleased about the Patriot Acts which Bush passed on the backs of our frailty after 9/11. I also won't forget that Obama extended the Pat Act.. None too pleased at all.. two sides of the same coin, I say.
Who will win you ask? The Citizen Journalist will win with the keyboards, pens and mental wits and if we are stymied we will prevail at the ballot box. Wisdom, logical reasoning, economics and experience will seize back the balance of power from the ignorant, arrogant deceitful man child and his worthless minions. Tens of millions of cans of new and improved fresh cans of WHOOP ASS will be opened in the coming months and those who were ignorant in November 2008 have seen the strychnine container by the Kool-Aid.
Thanks for this post, as it shines the light on what needs to be exposed to every American citizen—the infrastructure of the ideological left. From the blogs, the think tanks right up to the White House and the media in between. I'ts a bitterly partisan stronghold of leftist propaganda.
Unfortunately, it may already be too late.
"But we had a government that challenged its' citizens"
We still do. But now the MSM has a thrill going up its leg about it.
Another great example of selective liberal memory. Silly progressive, tax cuts don't lead to deficits, spending increases do.
And it all leads back to that Bondian villain, George Soros.
what about brent bozell's Media Research Center. the rights media matters
"Many of today’s conservatives are not far right – they are fiscal and constitutional conservatives., and some would even be considered more socially liberal. (I think I fall into that category). But it is that old school conservative label – that manufactured image of the “oppressive radical far right-wingers” – that leftists love to hate. And it’s that label that became the intense focus of a major Left wing initiative in 2003."
Actually, I'd say "some" of today's conservatives are far right – and "some" are fiscal conservatives/social liberals. Together, they make the "many" conservatives in number. It's a number that, like you said, the media want to break down into smaller units, thereby making their political "demolition" tactics more effective.
They want to criminalize common sense and decency as much as possible. We will never prevail on their terms because they don't just want to remodel the rooms, they want to tear the whole damn house down in the name of progress.
If we want to win this bizarre fight, we have to stop running around picking up the broken china after they've chucked it to the ground. We need to anticipate that they are coming over uninvited in the first place and meet them in the street with dogs in tow, way before they even reach the doorstep.
We live in the house of democracy! Its very structure should work in our favor by default if only we have the courage and quickness to respect and protect it properly.
This all we want for ourselves, and our country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-IM7maxbI&fe...
God Bless America
I'm not arguing against that point. I didn't like it then and I certainly don't like it now. If anything it is getting worse by the day.
Both do, actually.
Or do you remember Reagan ever balancing the budget? How about GW Bush? Why not, they both cut taxes?
But Clinton managed to balance the budget after raising taxes.
Excellent piece Chick very well constructed and hard hitting….
"It's a number that, like you said, the media want to break down into smaller units"
Divide and conquer.
What is remarkable that with the press utterly, and completely leftist for forty years, that conservative principles even exist. The left cannot withstand any dissent to prevail when their harebrained ideas receive scrutiny they fail with the American public at large. What they’ve done is to successfully isolate themselves, and are now fully exposed and ready to be vanquished in 11/10, and so on!
Citizen journalism will win out ultimately. "We the people" are inherently driven to be free and progressivism flies in the face of freedom. People from all nations, cultures, religions, came here seeking liberty, it is ingrained in us on a spiritual and genetic level. We will not be suppressed by the Progressives….
It is disconcerting that the left has been able in short time to build a system that is so powerful and potentially destructive to the USA…..but there is one thing that is greater….individualism. It cannot and will not be snuffed out by these folks. The only way they could have been successful at it, is if they had waited another 40 years. It would have given them a greater edge to creep through out the system unawares. To silently destroy the structure that our Fore Fathers gave us in the Constitution. They have done great damage to it thus far….but their inability to be patient and move in the stealth mode has doomed them.
We are eyes wide open and aware of what has been creeping into the system. There are still only 29% of them with their philosophy the rest that follow them are just followers addicted to entitlements. We are still a center right nation, desirous of freedom, who woke up and found that we are being tied down by the leftist Lilliputians. But we are Gulliver and cannot be tied down…no way in hell.
This coming November will go down in history as the moment we send progressivism into its death throes. All because the leftist didn't continue in the stealth mode. They showed their cards and the giant is awake, rising up, finding methods to come against this virulent form of government we have found ourselves under. The only trick left is to keep the giant awake long enough to unbind the cords of entrapment. I for one am engaged for the rest of my life against progressivism.
Wow, someone wasn't paying any attention in 2003 when the media tried their hardest to make sure the Iraq War didn't happen, nor the excessive New York Times articles ripping on the PATRIOT Act. Remember how they said they were going to get Kerry an extra 10 points by their coverage?
Even if you have a piss-poor memory, Voice of tReason, that doesn't mean we do.
Once again the left was projecting when Hilliary was screaming about the "vast right wing conspiracy."
Soros' money may be deep, but the American spirit bred into most of us is far more powerful. We definitely have our work cut out for us for the rest of our lives. I am 52 and have finally figured out what I want to be…a political activist. I never would have dreamed.
So when are some true American patriots going to start shooting these bastards in the head?
Right on sister! Pass on some cans of that WHOOP ASS to everyone you can!
More selective memory. Clinton didn't balance the budget until the Republicans took Congress and made him.
After the financial meltdown following 9/11, deficits rose again, but began to taper off until the Democrats took Congress in 2006 and caused another meltdown with Frannie and Freddie.
When the left wants to complain, they claim all the rights to do so.
Hillary reminded us of this in 2003. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
God Bless America
When the left wants to complain, they claim all the rights to do so.
Hillary reminded us of this in 2003. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
God Bless America
We must start in the ballot box…do not underestimate the brilliance of our Fore Fathers!
I know it's tough, but stay optimistic, friend.
Always does. Coincidence?? I think not.
"We live in the house of democracy!"
We are a republic madame, if we can keep it!"
Excellent piece! I thoroughly enjoyed it. Well researched and filled with good information. Thanks.
A violent response is exactly what they want, it will enable them to criminalize and demonize the entire group, and give them the perfect excuse for more legislation, laws, and federal investigations aimed at destroying the conservative base that is still far larger than the core progressive base. No, this must be a war of ideas, principles, and values, and letting copies of the declaration and the constitution fly in place of bullets is far more effective in the long term, and much harder to demonize. Let truth be our sword, and courage our armor, and stand for what America was founded on.
SQUAWK : … But in the early days of the Bush administration… : SQUAWK
Ah, does the Media Mutters Parrot want a cracker?
Voice of Reason…that's not arrogant at all.
Reagan was a failure, and Clinton was a genius! Thank you, voice of reason. It's so nice to ignore that thing called 'economics' and just make buzzword claims with no substance.
Right or left, if you think 'raise tax good cut tax bad' or the reverse, you need to stop commenting on the economy. Virtually nothing is black and white, let alone the most complex system in the nation. That being said, the 'Reagan had horrible economic policies' argument is a progressive myth, they'd try anything to get the focus off of Carter. Clinton enjoyed an economic boom from completely external factors, and played a crucial role in laying the framework for the current financial crisis.
Why doesn't the government just hire you? You'd clearly have everything fixed in a matter of minutes
If we start with Soros, we may never have to fire another shot.
That would send them into a tailspin…they would still have the money but the evil brains of this movement would be gone…
And then my mind moves to another scenario….Biblical in nature….
Welcome to Planet Earth there Voice of nonsense,…….
What you lib / lefties have to realize on this blog is that sometimes you have nothing to argue against.
This is one of those times,,……..hence your comment appears somewhat immature.
Great article, LibertyChick. I've long suspected that Soros was behind the Sept '08 worldwide money market withdrawal that led to the entire meltdown. And, his cronies gladly provided cover. All to gain power, at the expense of every citizen of this country. Despicable.
I believe there is some truth to what you are saying. But there is an economic tsunami coming our way and if the right folks are in political positions we will be able to restructure ourselves again without a revolution.
It is my hope anyway!
A case in point is this Arizona law that is sure raise hell in the media.
To combat this, the citizen journalists along the border are going to have to inform the rest of us of,…….
the actual situation down in that part of the country and in Mexico.
So come folks down there give some ammo.
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You are a prime example of the typical liberal tactic of proposing any narrative to justify a position. It doesn't matter that the narrative is false. Just because you say something dosen't make it so.
BTW_ You ought to change the name "voice of reason". True reasoning skills require that the premise of an argument is sound. You oblivously don't understand that fine a point.
Nipping at a tail that always grows back is just an execise in futility. Now, cutting off the head of the snake, that's real progress.
And do you realize how much higher the Reagan and GWBush deficits would have been if not for this same accounting gimmick? This was not unique to Clinton.
Some believe that Arizona is the flint that will produce the spark that fires the first shot of the revolution.
Largely a straw man you have created here. The issue Mikemc1970 had raised was about deficits. I didn't say reagan had horrible economic policies. I said he created large deficits, as did GWBush. That is pretty much indisputable.
Sadly, what the media was attacking was not just George Bush, but all conservatives. It wasn't as apparent until The Democrats got their socialist leader elected president. Now it is obvious to all but them.
The NYTimes' Judith Miller was pretty instrumental in promoting Bush's false claims of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. She has since been roundly discredited for that.
The Patriot Act was not nearly scrutinized by anyone before it was passed; very quickly. There was one senator who voted against it, Feingold, and he was pretty much right.
There is nothing Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly hate more than having their own words used against them. Until Media Matters began holding them accountable they could get away with saying anything they want and just deny it later. Because no one listens but righties, and they don't care about stupid things that are said on the air, as long as it fits their ideology.. But now every word they mumble is published and can be looked up and reported on….
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And now Obama is creating a large deficits right before our eyes. That is pretty much indisputable at this point now as we approche closer to $13 trillion in national debt by maybe within first 6 months of this year.
To your point, if your going after GW and Reagan for debt as you claim, you might as well do same for Obama as he is proving to do nothing more than adding more the deficite.
Anyone giving odds on how long it will take the MSM to tie the guy arrested with the gun
and fake cop car near the POTUS plane to the TEA party?
So far, your statement about Obama is true. I would argue much of it was put in place in the waning days of Bush and it was necessary in the short term given the extraordinary economic challenges we faced; i.e., the alternative was utter economic collapse.
That being said, this won't be the case forever, I would think in a year or so he's got to take some pretty strong measures about the deficit.
You wouldn't be suggesting that Soros would come back to life in three days after a fatal blow to the head would you? ( the ole antichrist thingy?)
Obama has had plenty of time to fix the problems Bush and the Dem Congress started back in 06, yet Obama is taking his focus off of the economy and jobs and focused on a massive healthcare bill that no one read until after it was signed and the continued spending upon spending for over a year straight.
I have a feeling Obama is another Wilson. Things will only get worse if we keep going the same path the Dems and now Obama has set for us.
I dont know if your aware of this, but Obama is heading us to utter economic collapse. With raising taxes, tons more spending, more unneeded regulations, and no means to pay down the debt.
If you really are a "voice of reason", then use some common sense and realize what is happening before your vary eyes.
like you couldn't do that for yourself? you need an astroturf media "watchdog" to report on that for you?
you're missing the point of the whole piece. they're puppets. puppets for special interests, just the like the ones they're calling out as puppets. they're no news org or watchdog. that's why we all have to be our own watchdogs.
Well of course. What else can they do? Defend their policies?
That is what makes this a blatantly open and shut case for most in the BIGs. They CAN'T defend their policies anymore because no one is buying.
Your ranting about Clinton. Reagan, budget surplus, budget deficit, etc. is proof positive of,…..
the accuracy of this article there Voice.
Thank you now please join the rest of us citizen journalists and stop,…………………
being Katie Curic's flunky.
Come up with an original thought.,…….you will feel good,…..trust me.
how about all those articles on the "atrocities" at Gitmo,…..
The NYT was on the forefront of that one.
Have to get someone in the Pentagon to get the latest casualty count in Iraq and Afghanistan.
What does Rush or O'Reilly have to do with this? I don't listen to either. And if you observe all of my posts you can obviously conclude that I think for myself and have formed many conclusions BEFORE they did.
Media Matters is an attack dog. They no longer can defend the POLICY. Get it MoveOn? America is not buying your policy because of what Fox News or Rush has to say. USA Americans are not buying your policies because it comes from corrupt and indefensible world.
Media Matters is nothing more than the American Pravda. Soros, your boy Obamao is a failure, your son is going to jail and you wont be alive that much longer given your current age. So I guess you know where your going when you die , and it isnt Heaven. By the way Soros-Podesta is just as dumb as his fellow commies out there. Let him keep trying to mess with talk radio.
We need a first hand account of your Arizona situation
I will send it (for what it is worth) to the papers here in Chicago.
Pathological Progressive Liars. They can no longer defend their policies so they must tear USA Americans down before we take their Power Ball away.
They can no longer hide the fact that their policies are aimed at destroying Middle America. Oh yeah. And they are getting rich doing it.
Time for Tim Geithner to get a real job.
Pathological Progressive Liars. They can no longer defend their policies so they must tear USA Americans down before we take their Power Ball away.
They can no longer hide the fact that their policies are aimed at destroying Middle America. Oh yeah. And they are getting rich doing it.
Time for Tim Geithner to get a real job.
I do like your style
Hey marxist Miko-wonder if your are enjoying choking on your own feet . Poor Miko, tell me does Soros pay you enough for being his Lewinsky ? The "front door" for backdoor George? Miko, you are a prime example of how the dinosaurs lived for millions of years with brains the size of peanuts.
Watched the first episode on the History channel "The Story of Us"
Ignoring some of the cameo commentators, it was fantastic.
The right wing echo chamber (you included) cranks out disinformation and misinformation 24/7. I get it that you don't like Media Matters to call them out on their lies, but they provide a service to those of us who know there is at least two sides to every story. I haven't seen them be wrong yet…
I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the right wing media to police themselves.
It is sure is shaping up to be that.
Let's just make sure we get our share of shots.
You're a bit obsessed with Soros rifleman and act as though every person in the democratic party knows him personally. Kind of stupid.
Corrct syb-Soros has made a lifetime of destroying economies. Do you know that RED CHINA does not allow any Soros owned firm or subsidiary to do business there? Or Taiwan? They know what a POS he is. America is just beginning to learn ,and most still dont know that he was a Nazi collaborator in his youth. His son is under indcitment for securities fraud, and likely will face 5-25 years if convicted.
You seem to be missing something big that the left never wants to admit. When ever they get their way, they run the country into ruin. It has happened twice before with progressive presidents. To let you know, its always the progressives that ruin this country from how our founders intended of it.
We need to move this country back to the center right with a more limited government and lets drop the whole republican/democrat thing all together. Since our country wasnt based on two parties, but it was based on the policies of those voted into office.
As for Media Matters, they can burn for all I care. I just dislike how most of the MSM do nothing but suck up to liberals/progressives and attact conservatives and do a crappy job at getting the facts behind the issues. Its rather sickining since the media is suppose to keep the government in check by letting the public know what they do and how things get done.
I like that .Bondian. This guy is worse than count Blofeld ever was, after all Blofeld never had a sympathetic, suckup media to cover for his crimes.
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They are part of the right wing echo chamber that Media Matters monitors. See, you think that the disinformation reported on right wing media outlets is honest reporting. Media Matters holds their feet to the fire and points out the discrepancies.
"But now every word they mumble is published and can be looked up and reported on…."
I certainly hope you are right there Mickey,.because,………….
their messages do indeed have to get out there, especially Rush's.
Oh and don't be so insecure there Mickey,……….listen for yourself and make your own judgments.
"The right wing echo chamber (you included) cranks out,………."
What does NBC, CBS, ABC, etal crank out,……….."The Good News",…..???????
Soros has planted operatives in the media and every place where his infuence can further his evil plans to destroy the only thing that stands in his way, the Constitution.
He's not the Antichrist, but he did pull our dear leader (the Antichrist?) out of his ass.
Clinton began it. Was Reagan in office after Clinton?
Congress controls the purse. The defecit under Reagan was due to Democratic Party contol of the purse.
Otherwise, you concede the point and defend with a rather lame "Bush did it too" as if that makes it alright.
BTW, the media took care to use only the worst pictures of Bush they had, the ones that made him look like a moron, for the first year. (Take enough pictures of anyone and you will find a few of those.)
So let me get this straight, civil rights, a woman's right to vote, allowing a woman the choice over her body, and hopefully not clogging up our prisons and saving tax payers billions of dollars by locking up pot smokers, not to mention and medicare and social security for the elderly has made the country worse? Maybe you should move to Saudi Arabia?
Might be one of the most ignorant responses I have ever heard.
Bush was an idiot for allowing the media to seize control of the dialogue. The media was unable to get behind the idea that there was a dozen other reasons for ending the cease fire and settled on the easy to understand reason.
A small, but vital, difference in what you claim and what Bush actually said. Bush said that Saddam had not shown that the WMDs had been destroyed. He was not the one who claimed Saddam had WMDs, that was claimed by the Democrats and the news media.
Gee you sure sound like yesterday's Mickey there Cal Kid.
"Let me see your papers please." ,…What don't have any,……..????
you are in the wrong state there,………….you belong next door in Califa with the Kid,……………..
you don't need jack shit there.
Well, we /can/ usually figure out what the Left is up to or plans to do by looking at the opposite of anything the left says.
As a formally young man and therefore a formal Liberal, I think it is time we took that term back. I know we harangue leftist progressives and Liberals as a group but are they? As a young man the driving force behind my liberalism was Liberty, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and yes a desire to lift others from the bonds of poverty drugs crime and violence. Did I care about paying for it NO it seemed reasonable to me that once the under classes were freed from their chains that they would be able to carry their own load in happy lifes (yes sometimes there were rainbows and unicorns involved). However Totalitarianism was never part of my plan or my friends plan.
And the same of you, with an IP address.
Civil rights wasnt ever progressive, it was something MLK jr. wanted in the time of segregation. I have no issue about womans right to vote or of their own body, yet none of that was progressive.
Your kidding right, medicare and social security. Those systems are utter failures and have done nothing but add more waste to our national debt and put the states in the red. We need to privative those systems and not let the government run them. Since, when things like that are privatived, they provide better service, wont be a burden for tax payers, and wont add anything to the debt.
Sounds more like your the most ignorant one here. I only state facts. I dont really care for sides, only the truth. Until you get your head our of your progressive arse, you might want to listen to both sides and get your damn facts straight fool.
The same of me what? Do you have a point or is this just more of your angry venting?
The fact that Soros, at his extremely advanced age, is still able to perpetrate SO MUCH EVIL on the world lends veracity to the saying, "only the good die young." Also, it seems to lend credence to the concept of making deals with the devil, because I am absolutely SURE that he has.
I, personally, will find some appropriate way to celebrate when the word comes down that we are properly rid of that Nazi (in the very REAL, non-hyperbolic sense of the term) scourge of humanity.
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Even if you like them that they do hold the rights feet to the fire, but they are worth their word if they dont do the same to the left. Unless you hold both feet to the fire with facts, you wont get the truth from either of them.
Thats why I am on here and not MM. As they just plain suck and more likey, they will ask/beg for a gov't bailout to stay in business to.
Come to think about it, I think Gutfeld gets more veiwers to than anything from MM. IMO, Red Eye stomps the Daily Show to.
Maybe….but he is not charismatic…so probably not.
O doesn't fit it either…a precursor maybe…
I have yet to read ONE restate ONE quote from Rush or O'Reilly that was not taken out of context. I think you dipshit leftist have forgotten or never knew what political satire is. Rush used to say " listen to me for six weeks and you'll understand". That's because it took that long for the dimbulbs on the left to get that alot of what Rush says is tongue-in-cheek. The reason no lefty radio show has ever been successful is they have no sense of humor!! Not all of life is life threating! Grow a funny bone sh!tbirds!
That is what I would like to think will happen…kill the snake instead of just setting it back. Probably not gonna happen.
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