SEIU’s Secret Weapon: If Obama’s Plan Fails, Brandish the Shareholder Resolution
by Liberty ChickWe saw their fury throughout 2009: “Capitalism is Dead”, “Kill the Corporation”, “Bust Up Big Banks”, “Greed Kills”, “Bank of America, Bad for America”. The Service Employees International Union (SEIU) led an all-out assault on Wall Street – and on capitalism and corporations – coining words and phrases that have since become common staples in the vocabulary of the bank-bashing craze. That fury hit a fever pitch last March when word of the AIG bonuses went public. It was the SEIU out in front of the protests, at AIG offices, and bussing protestors to the homes of AIG executives.

The months that followed saw more of the same. In April, SEIU hailed the ousting of General Motors CEO Rick Wagoner. That same week, it stepped up its battleplan with the Mother of all Corporate Campaigns against Ken Lewis, Bank of America CEO and Chairman – complete with videos, rolling billboards, smear sites, petition drives, letter campaigns, media blitzes and more, while it placed equal attention on Bank of America, forcing the company to respond with a $40 million image boosting campaign of television and print ads.

SEIU & progressive groups stage a 3-day "Showdown in Chicago" at the annual ABA meeting. Of course, when non-progressives protested the bailouts, they were shunned as "extremists" & a "dangerous mob", but I digress…
And by October, SEIU’s bank bashing crusade climaxed again at the American Bankers Association annual meeting, with its greatly publicized “Showdown in Chicago“, where some of the protestors dressed in Grim Reaper garb chased down meeting attendees, brandishing cleavers and butcher knives emblazoned with bloody-looking slogans such as “Making a Killing” and “Greed Kills”. Clearly, the aim was to intimidate, yet none of the media outlets apparently felt any duty to call out such theatrics. That event also featured a star-studded cast that included everyone from Andy Stern, to Anna Burger, Richard Trumka (AFL-CIO), the Rev. Jesse Jackson, Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL), FDIC Chair Sheila Bair, and even Armando Robles of the now infamous Serious Materials, which was recently featured on Stossel’s Crony Capitalism special.
In November came the much anticipated Goldman Sachs protest. While the event was promoted in advance by media outlets like Politico, it turned out to be more of a letter delivery than a protest. Nonetheless, Andy Stern was once again the notable headliner.
All told, there’s certainly been no shortage of bank bashing tirades. Labor unions like SEIU in particular have been especially dramatic in both prose and propaganda, as the photo and some of the videos referenced above demonstrate.
And now, as the Obama administration and liberal Democrats in Congress come to terms with the impact of the Scott Brown victory in the recent Massachusetts election on their progressive policy agenda, the gears in Washington DC seem to have shifted into regressive campaign mode. President Obama is making the rounds again in familiar town hall style, complete with the typical backdrop of carefully selected audience members placed atop tiers of risers, flanked by flags and slogans. Obama is now presenting an “I’m just a regular guy like you” sort of persona, as he refocuses his key issues on jobs and the economy.
But the telltale signs of big labor’s influence over the President’s agenda clearly surfaced on January 21st, when Obama announced a major crackdown on Wall Street banks.
“What we’ve seen so far in recent weeks is an army of industry lobbyists descending on Capitol Hill to try to block commonsense rules,” Obama said. “If these folks want a fight, it’s a fight I’m ready to have.”
Sure, it’s an easy fight to pick. After the months of unrelenting populist rage against the perceived enemy that is the “Wall Street Fat Cats,” as the president refers to them, there would hardly be much pushback from the general public. Especially with all the anti-capitalist rhetoric and theatrics from the likes of progressive protestors, community organizers and labor unions. Even Hollywood and the press have joined that bandwagon. But behind all of the ire is labor’s real agenda, one that is completely irrelevant to the majority of Americans.
Now, I am certainly not defending the practices of some of the banks – the behavior of some has been irresponsible and reckless. I think we all acknowledge that. But considering that labor unions like SEIU represent such a small minority of “the American People,” why have we seen such constant, organized angst on a widespread scale from SEIU? No other outfit has been anywhere near as visible or as aggressive as SEIU on this front. While everyone else made their points, said their peace and moved on after April, SEIU continued and escalated its attacks month after month. One has to wonder, how much of it is truly in the sincere interest of “protecting the American people”? (Especially considering that labor unions represent only a tiny portion of all Americans – and all of us have been greatly impacted by the financial crisis). And why no protests against Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, or the auto industry?
Even noted law firms, like Hunton & Williams, and Morgan & Lewis took notice, and published their suspicious of the sincerity of the labor union’s motives.
You could almost have predicted the storyline and its lead-up to the populist outrage. If you kept your eye on Andy Stern and the SEIU Master Trust.
In a 1972 book, “The Unseen Revolution: How Pension Fund Socialism Came to America,” author Peter Drucker studies the role that government and labor union pension funds play in the financial sector. He described that unknowingly, the US over time has “socialized” our economy without actually “nationalizing” it, by way of the pension funds of America’s workers.
“Through their pension funds, employees of American business own today at least 25 per cent of the equity capital of American business. The pension funds of the self-employed, of public employees, and of school and college teachers own at least another 10 per cent more, giving the workers of America ownership of more than one third of the equity capital of American business. Within another 10 years the pension funds inevitably will increase their holdings and will, by 1985 at the latest, own at least 50 per cent of the equity capital of American business…these “institutional investors” together own the controlling interest in the company and, indeed, the company could not be financed unless the “institutional investors”-the pension funds –were willing to invest in it…”
(Click here for an article version of Drucker’s book, with contributions from Thomas Sowell and others)
Drucker went on to explain that the United States economic system actually has devolved from pure capitalism into more of a version of “decentralized market socialism,” citing General Motors and the United Auto Workers (UAW) union’s pension fund as among the first to foray into investment in the private capital market funds, as is now so common today. While Drucker wrote the book generally in support of the workers’ cooperative stake in private business, he warned then that private corporations would come to rely too much upon the pension funds, and the true incentive of self-interest normally created by Capitalism could eventually go away.
“The emergence of the pension trust makes final the divorce of traditional “ownership” from “control”…For the pension funds are not “owners.” They are investors. They do not want “control.” Indeed, they are legally disqualified from “control.” The pension funds are “trustees”: It is their job to place the beneficiaries’ money in the most profitable investment. They have no business trying to “manage.” If they do not like a company or its management, their duty is to sell the stock. To sit on a board of directors, for instance, and accept the obligations of board membership, is incompatible with the duties of the trustee which the pension-fund managers have to discharge and which have been sharply and strictly defined in the Pension Reform Act of 1974.”
To be fair, the author later emphasizes that institutional investors should exercise their voice in representing their interests. Utilizing your proxy vote and providing feedback to the board as an active shareholder is a good thing! But as others have noted, the potential for abuse also exists, if union shareholders engage the board for purposes other than their pension investment interests. Drucker (and lawmakers in the 1970’s) expected that shareholders and their trustees would either engage to positively affect the stock, or they’d sell it if they didn’t like the company’s management. Perhaps it is this observation that SEIU’s Andy Stern has seized upon. Rather than sell the stock, maybe Stern wants to control the companies in which his pension trust is invested. It may have less to do with protecting pension investments and more to do with unionizing workers at those companies.
You Don’t Want a Union? This is My Baseball Bat & I Call It “Shareholder Resolution”
Of all those companies that have been SEIU’s protest targets, most have been the very same corporations in which the $1.9 billion SEIU Master Trust and some of parent Change to Win Investment Group’s $217 billion are invested. Is it also coincidence that many of these corporations were also the very targets of SEIU unionization efforts?
In early 2009, Andy Stern and Anna Burger wrote to the White House and Congress, demanding a list of financial reforms be legislated immediately, including a central regulator, and control over executive compensation and bonuses. Then in April, SEIU Master Trust director Stephen Abrecht sent a letter to 29 financial firms in which the trust holds investments, demanding that the companies’ directors investigate more than $5 billion in paid bonuses that SEIU says were based upon false metrics. Among those firms on the list were AIG, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, PNC Financial Services and others.
Shortly thereafter, SEIU proposed a number of shareholder resolutions to the boards of many of the companies on that same list, requesting everything from ousting CEOs or board members to controlling employee compensation structures. Meanwhile, outside on the streets, SEIU’s protests were often coordinated with company meetings and events. As banks and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce fought against the Employee Free Forced Choice Act legislation, SEIU levied shareholder resolutions against them and issued more demands to Congress for immediate consumer protection and financial reform.
When Anna Burger then testified in front of the Congressional Financial Services Committee in September, not only did she push for a central bank regulator and other financial reforms, but she concluded her testimony by calling for the unionization of bank workers, insisting that the bank workers could then “speak out in protection of consumers” without fear to prevent future crisis.
Not surprising, since SEIU has had its eye on unionizing bank workers for quite some time, placing repeated pressure on banks for years and conducting endless rounds of their infamous corporate campaigns.
I was also interested when SEIU celebrated the victory of Brazilian bank workers who in October had won a wage increase and other concessions after a 10-day strike there, through the efforts of SEIU’s partnering coalition Central Unica dos Trabalhadores (CUT). In November, SEIU sent a delegation of its own members down to Brazil to learn more about their partner union’s bank campaign.
Prior evidence of SEIU’s bank organizing attempts had already surfaced one year earlier after emails between Inga Skippings of SEIU and ACORN were publicized, revealing their collusion on the effort to unionize bank workers, since, as Skippings put it, “the banking industry is now being infused with billions of taxpayer dollars.”
“We need to get a handle on who these workers are, working conditions, etc.,” Skippings wrote.
“Do you have ACORN members who work for banks or Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae? Is there anyway [sic] you could check? The banks we’re most concerned about are:
Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Chevy Chase/B.F.Saul, BB&T, SunTrust, Bank of America/Countrywide, Wachovia/Wells Fargo, PNC Bank/National City, Citigroup
Please let me know and if you have other suggestions, I’d love to hear them.”
Of course, after months of SEIU’s repeated and relentless attacks against Bank of America CEO Ken Lewis, demands that Bank of America fire him, and finally a shareholders resolution to oust him, Lewis stepped down as CEO in September 2009, while Andy Stern took full credit for Lewis’ resignation on Twitter. SEIU even went so far as to demand that Kenneth Feinberg, in his duties as the newly created Pay Czar, stop all payments to Ken Lewis, after he’d already been ousted from the board.
But SEIU’s abusive wielding of its pension funds as a weapon doesn’t stop with the financial sector. In fact, this tactic was at play long before the financial crisis. One such example heated up in 2006 in SEIU’s campaign against Sunrise Senior Living centers. Under the guise of protecting its pension investments, SEIU had demanded input on board decisions, including who they wanted appointed to the company’s board, a campaign that ultimately proved successful in forcing out several board members whom SEIU perceived as anti-union. Meanwhile, SEIU was coincidentally hard at work trying to organize workers at Sunrise facilities.
Other attempts, some successful, some not, have been made over the years in similar SEIU fashion. Just a few examples of their Pension Fund activism to note:
- 2003: California’s Lucia Mar school board privatizes school bus operations to save taxpayers money. SEIU and the California School Employees Association (CSEA) union team up and force pension fund California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS) to sell off shares in any company that competes for public sector jobs, and to prohibit investments with any firm that builds or staffs charter schools, demanding “a strong anti-privatization stand”.
- 2005: SEIU teams up with The National Union of Public and General Employees (NUPGE) and proposes shareholder resolution demanding FirstService Corp end dual class share voting, which was voted down.
- 2005: As SEIU seeks to organize consultants and protests outsourcing, they’ve had Sun Microsystems in their sights. SEIU proposes a shareholder resolution to change Sun’s bonus compensation, but was voted down by other shareholders.
- 2007: SEIU files a shareholder resolution against Wells Fargo, demanding they set Greenhouse Gas emission reduction goals. Later withdrawn when Wells Fargo voluntarily committed to performing GHG assessments in key related portfolios.
- April 2008: SEIU files a shareholder resolution against Washington Mutual to force out Kerry Killinger from his role as Chairman.
- April 2009: SEIU sends letter to 29 companies demanding investigation into practices based upon what it called “false metrics” and that the boards overhaul executive compensation.
Institutional investors certainly have a responsibility to protect their pension funds, and no one faults anyone for doing so. But in SEIU’s case, there has often been a pattern of abusing that responsibility to achieve other goals. Over the years, SEIU has teamed up with a multitude of co-investors and pension fund activists to gain unionizing and pay control from inside these corporations. This activity is rampant in the private sector companies, and much of it is not in the best interest of the taxpayers or the workers at these companies.
The financial reforms Obama has proposed of late match up nearly word for word with what’s been proposed by SEIU’s leaders. Much of what’s included in H.R 3126, The Consumer Financial Protection Agency Act of 2009, also lines up with SEIU’s language. And in the midst of them all are the renewed calls to pass EFCA, the misleadingly named Employee Free Choice Act.
And all the while, SEIU has continued on its mission to use the shareholder resolution as a weapon against nearly every business in which their Master Trust has been invested…that is, if that business opposes the Employee Free Forced Choice Act.
So, who’s proposing the financial reforms – is it Obama, or is it SEIU? Who and what is all this legislation designed to protect, really? The American People? Or just a few leaders in purple t-shirts?






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Most Americans don’t know it but Thomas Jefferson, along with James Madison worked assiduously to have an 11th Amendment included into our nation’s original Bill of Rights. This proposed Amendment would have prohibited “monopolies in commerce.” The amendment would have made it illegal for corporations to own other corporations, or to give money to politicians, or to otherwise try to influence elections. Corporations would be chartered by the states for the primary purpose of “serving the public good.”
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“Kill the Corporation”
Kill the union extortionists that have ruined this nation. ACORN and SEIUs management should be publicly executed.
"So, who’s proposing the financial reforms – is it Obama, or is it SEIU? Who and what is all this legislation designed to protect, really? The American People? Or just a few leaders in purple t-shirts?"
God Bless America, the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave; it was a Land that I loved. It is no longer recognizable, as the America I knew as a child. Those people; Andy Stern and his Unions, Barrack Obama have fundamentally changed it, and it no longer exists.
I miss Her.
If these thugs want a war, I say give it to them. Not a war of words, but a real one. Come on SEIU, take on the American people. We are protected under the 2nd amendment, and are ready for you.
Come Nov we will begin to restore American Exceptionalism. In 2012 we throw Hussein to the gutter and declare our independence. Hopefully some patriots will impeach this criminal fraud in the White House if he refuses to prove his eligibility to be President.
as Andrew Wilkow has coined the phrase….
ZERO LIABILITY VOTERS
It has never been easier to bust a union. If they go on strike, skabs will arrive by the thousands.
First, I'd like to say that this was a real nut-buster of an article to get through. Having said that, it lays out the case against Andy Stearn and SEIU very well. I'm sure Andy Stearn would like nothing better than the public to just look at all this and say,"Screw this. It's all too confusing". I highly recommend that everyone take the time to read this all the way through (have some aspirin handy!). Once you do, you'll realize that this is the biggest racketeering and extortion enterprise since the birth of La Cosa Nostra (The Mafia).
How the FBI can turn a blind eye to this is beyond comprehension, or it would be if not for the fact that the Bureau gets it's marching orders from Barrack Hussein Obama (who, in turn, evidently gets HIS marching orders from Andy Stearn).
This walking corpse we call a government is gangrenous to the bone, people. It's time to bury it before the plague spreads any farther.
But it never happened, so what's your point?
As a TeaBaggin'RightWingConspirator, lemme get this straight. This MouthBreather Andrew Stern, (who needs a swift elbow to the throat, btw), rages against the very 'Corporate Greed' that makes his criminal enterprise possible by wanting to actually destroy capitalism. Pretty smart move until he finds out there won't be anymore raping of the same corporations. Let's just remember how GM got into troublr……UNIONS!!!! Course the illegals that make up a good portion of SEIU are too dumb to understand……is that it?
" – is it Obama, or is it SEIU? '
Can you say lipstick on a pig ?
Unions killed the Railroads in the 70's.
Unions killed the domestic steel industry in the 80's.
Unions killed the airline industry in the 90's.
………..and the Unions killed the auto industry in the 2000's.
We should learn from history. It repeats iteslf.
(who needs a swift elbow to the throat, btw)
Yes. He does.
The onlything Hussein has proven to me is that he's a foreign saboteur hell bent on transforming the greatest nation the world has ever known into a second rate socialist shithole.
I respectfully disagree regarding Jindal. Foreigners are allowed in the senate, they are not allowed to be President. Jindal's birthplace is no secret, only Hussein's is. And as a foreign born individual let me say that no naturalized citizen should ever be allowed to be President or V.P. As to why the Republicans have been silent on this issue it's pretty self evident to me, they're spineless cowards afraid to demand a black man be held to the same standards as a white man.
Bobby Jingal is a panty-waist as well as a total waste. I'm a Republican, but I'd sooner burn in Hell as give him my vote. Same goes for Gingrich and McCain.
Dang good job LC. It will take me some time to read all the links you left. Keep it up, your real good now, greatness will follow.
Papa Ray
A turd dipped in milk chocolate or white chocolate is still a turd.
Well, at least you are thinking clearly.
I think you've got it. Andy thinks all that money should be going into his bank account. He's just one more tin-pot dictator that we're going to have to deal with.
Two sides of the same turd.
The labor union movement was created by the u. s. communist party in the early 1920s. Its "shop manual", the humanist manifesto, (communism's "religious" foundation), states as its purpose: "we call for the abolishment of a profit motivated society (the American capitalistic system)…….we must incorporate "RADICAL" (their words) measures to establish a socialized international economic order". Now they misrepresent those who defend our founding principles as "radicals" and "extremists".
Secular humanism, spawned by Marxism, has been recognized by the U.S. Supreme Court in several instances as a full fledged bonified religion entitled to 1st. Amendment protections. It has effectively now become the "established religion" in the United States. Go figure.
Fortunately that never happened so America is now the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world instead of being an agricultural backwater or another Venezuela.
I thought Jindal was doing a good job?
You didn't really think that all the real Republican Conservatives died with Reagan, did you? I thought we had moved beyond the D's and R's thing. I guess I was wrong. That's a shame.
I wasn't being disagreeable about Jindal regarding politics at a lower level. He cannot be President though. He has the birth credentials of Obama.
……..and you still can't pick it up by the clean end………..
……..and you still can't pick it up by the clean end………..
Unionized companies over time fail in the marketplace. Unionization is only viable in an activity that has a monopoly making it immune to competition – like government. Once government services are unionized the only avenue for growth of unions is to grow government employment by expanding the scope of government services. The solution is three-fold – first, return to the pre-Kennedy rules prohibiting public employee unions, second cap government expenditures and employment forcing government to narrow its scope, third prevent government employees from providing cash to bribe their legislators to expand government.
No.
I never thought that at all.
I personally never get hung up in the D & R thing.
I look for C & L. That is the yardstick.
You weren't wrong.
I think he is, for Louisiana.
But that is just my opinion.
Too bad we don't have a politician with the stones to emulate Reagan (remember the air traffic controllers?). Oh, I forgot, the unions own all of the progressive politicians and most of the rest too.
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Lipstick on a pig?
Come on folks, leave MooShelle out of this………..
My question is when the Unions run out of the money… because there are no jobs, then what? This Presidancy is a farce, alot of us voted for and are ashamed of addmitting…………………Hope and Change yup.. the "Hope" we well be able to still feed our familys in a years time and enough "Change"to put in the parking meter to file yet again for unemployment. This While people like Andy Stern squander what is left of this great Country like a pimp and his prostitutes. This articule as hard as it is to read……. makes me want to wretch! What still bugs me is the amount of looney tunes who stll claim to BELIEVE ! Tell me how????????
I wasn't being disagreeable
I know; I agree with your views 99% of the time. I realize my comments don't always reflect the tone I was trying to get across. As long as Jindal was born in the US he should be eligible to be president. Hussein on the other hand was not born in the US. I suspect he was born in Kenya, migrated to Indonesia with his family and from there immigrated to the US. It's highly unlikely someone was born in Hawaii, would immigrate to Indonesia and then immigrate back to the US. It's far more likely he went from Kenya with his muslim father to the largest muslim nation, Indonesia, and from there eventually made it to Hawaii.
Hussein is a fraud and he should go to prison for this.
Congressman Joe Wilson is on Cavuto right now.
He needs to step up to the plate.
The biggest thing I have against Wall Street are the investors. They have no interest in promoting values and principles through their investments…only profit. We have replaced God in this country with money. The Bible teaches us that a man can not have two masters, for he will love the one and despise the other. I'm not seeing too many people out there "despising" money.
We should be investing in companies (like Interstate Batteries) that promote good values and operate on good principles. If everyone did this, those stock values would go up. Instead, we ignore a company's policies and invest based solely on the expected profit margin. This is why we fail.
Don't agree with me 99% of the time.
I am not that right.
Scale it back to 75%.
/humor off
On a serious note,the Dhali Bama is a fraud, through and through.
The original concept of capitalism is that investors and entrepreneurs are allowed to pursue profits because that's good for everyone. Private ownership and free-market competition drive the creation of wealth, and raise the standard of living. So profit is a means to an end. But under Reagan, we lost sight of this original purpose, profit became the end in itself. This led to the concentration of wealth and slow decline in the standard of living for most people, a trend that continues to this day.
Reagan deregulated many industries, in effect destroying competition and creating oligopolies. For example, his deregulation of airlines resulted in every single airline in the US going bankrupt except two. His deregulation of broadcasting resulted in the entire industry being dominated by a few enormously powerful players, like Disney and Clear Channel.
Under Reagan, money became more powerful in politics than ever before. So powerful that today we don't really have elections, we have auctions. The candidate who spends more money wins about 98% of the time. This has made it easier for powerful corporations to 'buy' politicians.
The only reason the US is the most powerful country in the world is due to the ability to print money!!
aren't odumbo/seiu/acorn all of the same tree? yep….the same progressive tree….
Given the fact that the proposed (adopted) 11th amendment to the Bill of Rights dealt with not increasing the compensation of legislators until after an intervening election, and the proposed (not adopted) 12th amendment to the Bill of rights dealt with the apportionment of representatives in the House of Representatives pending a census, I am not certain where you are getting your information. Additionally, elections were not a critical issue in American politics until the time of Andrew Jackson. Corporate existence would have been covered by the ninth amendment.
Reminds me of a church that was infested with Brown recluse spiders. After several futile attempts to erradicate them the congregation decided to cut their losses and burn it down and rebuild. We may be faced with a similar situation.
……..and always remember, the ACORN doesn't fall far from the tree.
Got that right.
I am truly afraid you might be right.
This might be too big of a job for the Orkin Man.
And the unions care nothing about the people they claim to represent. I know of an instance during late 70's were a union took it's members out on strike for a considerable time. When the strike was over the members went back to work with a contract making $.50 less an hour than the company was originally offering before the strike, and everyone had to be an union member. The members lost wages while on strike to end up making less and paying more. That union sure was looking out for the little guy.
Jindal is guy that the " secret machine" is grooming for the position. If that is not reason enough to vote against him, I don't know what is. I'm tired of the CFR Progressives choosing our Presidents for us.
Also, he looks and speaks like Jimmy Carter with a tan. Not an endearing quality.
It's almost a death sentence to do so. Have you noticed that every non-progressive President in the last half century has either been shot or shot at? If they're not CFR approved and still manage to get elected somehow…bad things tend to follow.
I believe the Unions are killing our government also…From
what I understand, more then half of the union members have
government jobs!…If it's not more then half, it's pretty close…
Recall what happened to Jimmy Hoffa? One of Stern's kind will get tired of him, but there are others that will step into his role. RICO statutes should apply to SEIU.
Cowboy, I miss her too!!
You are absolutely, 100% correct.
Barry wasn't in the CFR.
Now you know why Biden is there.
He is the "minder" just like in Iraq and Iran.
Excellent example!!!
Actually, Stern needs to be with Hoffa, and Elvis.
They could start the Andy Stern Polka Trio.
Agreed
Corporations have always given me a paycheck.
When the one I was working for stopped, I made sure I knew how make a different kind of widget.
So another corporation would continue giving me a paycheck.
I don't have time to read this thoroughly now, but I will later today. But my first impression of this is I certainly hope these corporations have their teams of lawyers working overtime on how to thwart Stern and his gang of extortionists.
And they both vote Democrat????/
Thanks, even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then/
I pray the people find a way to overcome. The SEIU has been selling the peoples' deaths to anyone who will listen, for many years running now. Of course, the packaging is critical. They can not tell the truth, or talk about policy. Smears of their 'opponents' are all that they know how to do, and all they can do. Because, people, would rather live in freedom, than be victim to these radicals. There is only one way for the tide to turn, & that is by the people rising up.
I would be happy if he just stood up tonight and reiterated what he said last time "YOU STILL LIE"!!!
But this time not apologize…simply run tape of the liar-in-chief's own words…
It's not a question of IF they should apply! The question is does anyone have the NADS to enforce Rico.
SEIU looks like a secret opps organization operating out in the open.
I believe the financial crisis was intentional.
And there fix is… to get even more control.
And phony SEIU is there to assist.
Good investigating piece!
They're goint to tear down the Meadowlands pretty soon. Hopefully they will put ol' Andy into the cornerstone with Jimmy.
As an old cold warrior, I feel like the Orkin man who comes home and finds the same vermin he'd been dealing with at work.
Well, at least in 2008, most Americans voted "Democrat"
And as the truth continues to come out, the pressure just builds and builds. I can't say when push will come to a very hard shove, but let's keep one thing in mind: the 2nd Amendment is there to guarantee all the rest of the document. Like all of you, I want my country back.
Exactly who are the SEIU going to unionize after capitalism collapses and we all go on welfare and food stamps. With out our free market, capitalistic society there would be absolutely zero need for unions.
Yes yes, business bad, socialism good, we got it you asshat next time asy it 1 sentence instead of multiple paragraphs of gibberish.
LMAO, Did you actually graduate from "Conspiracy" school, or are you still a student?
Andy should be air dropped into Haiti, with all his wisdom I am sure he could solve all their problems by morning.
Leftist always tear things down and then murder a few hundred million, capitalist build them up and the quality of life goes up for the majority, that about sums up the whole who is on the right side of history thing.
After reading all these posts, I believe that it's too late! The Marxist, or minimally, the people who want other people to take care of them all the time have won the battle started in the Civil War and there is nothing left for all Americans who have ancestry back before the civil war era, but a coming holocaust! Such Americans now are well in the minority!
Folks, you are getting a bit carried away.
An overwhelming number of people in this country are trapped at the lower end of the economic ladder because of the unwillingness of Corporation to act in a socially responsible manner and to reasonably ensure living wages; while they ensure 'investors' profit.
Why should the economy only benefit someone who went to Wharton or inherited a fortune? It's about time someone came along and found a way for the average (or, below average) person to get in on the splendor that is the American Economy.
Why shouldn't bank employees be Unionized? Unions were once proudly populated by workers in plants (manufacturing). But, corporate greed has sent most of US manufacturing overseas.
Shouldn't these banks that invest in and bankroll the conglomerates that own the manufacturing companies that shipped away Union jobs now be subject to Unionization?
It's called social justice, folks.
AKA: equality.
Crawl down from your pedestals and try to remember that we are all EQUALS. And try to remember that just because someone isn't a manager, dr, lawyer, engineer, orh heck…doesn't even have a truly marketable skill….doesn't mean they don't deserve a helping of justice. Social Justice. If the market says my skills aren't worth anything…then by God and Country get rid of the market!
Controlled Capitalism is the way ensure that no one feels left out.
I'm going to skip responding to J of S's comment above and get to the point. Let's not forget who we are. We're Americans. We have a long history of being hard-working, inventive, resilient, determined, freedom-loving and defenders of human rights and liberty. That said, if we lived within our collective means with hard currency as opposed to fiat money we would likely have a much different foreign policy. The bottom line is, we WILL take our country back, and the unions, while ruinous of the American dream, will likely remain – albeit limited in scope and power. Let's work to put Constitutionalists and honest people in office, end the Fed and entitlements, and get back to what our Founders prescribed: hard currency and sound fiscal policy premised on common sense. They, the Founders, did the heavy lifting for us so we wouldn't have to. What are we arguing about?
It doesn't matter of Jindal's parents were born in India. What matters is if they were US citizens for 5 years prior to Bobby Jindal's birth.
Obama was trying to prop up the dying unions by giving them a gift of the Obamacare bill. This was a giant Ponzi scheme meant to prop up the unions from the bottom by creating 111 Federal agencies of unionized workers to implement paperwork plus unionize doctors, nurses, hospitals, etc. This was never about improving the healthcare system in this country. The unions had contributed mightily to Obama's presidential campaign, particularly Stern, whose unions contributed up to $60 million.
Of course, the financial crisis was intentional. Never let a crisis go to waste. In this instance, they created the crisis.
That''s why Stern wants to unite workers of the world. The possibilities are endless to him…and so is the money stream.
You're right, and I don't think he's given up..I think he'll be
pushing this healthcare down our throats again….This is
a determined group of hippy commies, oops, progressives.
Stern isn't going to let him give up….By the way, is that a
banana Stern is eating, or is that his nose??….lol
I pledge to make sure I never buy anything union made, ever. I hope like minded people do the same. Maybe I will start a movement. hmm Nounion.com
This union stance is so illogical.They want to destroy companies that employ people?I though unions were formed to help people stay employed?The unions are so far into the pockets of the communist leaning politicians that they can not see the light and are sufficating for lack of fresh air….thus causing eventual brain damage.
Dude, you dont have the same ideology as many of us do in here.
Some of us believe that all blessings flow from God. We have equal opportunity here in this country but we should not skew things to bring about equal results.
No one can guaranty equal results. No one plays the roll of God better then God himself.
We should not punish and takeaway from someone that has the guts, and know how, and risk to succeed and give to someone that does not strive for nor deserve it.
Liberal ideology uses victims to strengthen its hold on power. All the while making them think liberal policy will take car of them. Pure psychological manipulation.
Our country already had the best form of government but the elitists with their clever and covert tactics slipped in and incrementally hijacked our system, used it and us to build and push a world system. And nearing completion wanting to to savatage our capitalist system. That's right, use the best system then savatage it.
This all started early 20th century.
We are to all stand up for what we believe and try and respect others for what they believe.
And many of us just want to try and save our country before we loose it. We are waking up to what's going on around us.
Let me get this straight JOHN_EVANS. Unions can donate whatever they want (effectively corporations without shareholder say), yet Corporations (WHERE SHAREHOLDERS CAN VOTE THE HEADS OUT) have no say? You sir are a piece of $hit. Seriously. Think for yourself. You sabotage your 401k every time you side with a freaking union.
And sadly, too many of the evil corporations side with the Dems. The one I work for funnels tons to the Dems. Its like a sadomasochistic relationship.
Tell me, has he satisfactorily proven his eligibility to you? He hasn't to me. The reason the Republicans won't touch this, is because rising star Bobby Jindal of Louisiana has foreign born parents……….
"This walking corpse we call a government is gangrenous to the bone, people. It's time to bury it before the plague spreads any farther."
Great analogy.
Nothing much to add,other than it's rolling with maggots.
I do wish conservatives themselves were more active shareholders. A lot of corporations engage in actions like lobbying for cap-and-trade or stimulus bills which, while they might be good in the short-term for the company doing the lobbying, are bad for America. Outside the Free Enterprise Action Fund I've heard very little of people who fight these activities.
If he isn't up to the job, we'll replace him too.
Yeah, that's to bad that it didn't happen!
Someone needs to pull all of Obummers camapign contributions and see who's name is attached to all the contributions. If Sterns unions gave up to $60 million it had to be broken up into a bunch of different names. Once you get the names, track down the individuals and see if you can confirm the contribution amount with thier name on it. I now this is wishful thinking because Obummer won't release all his contributors names, but, with the right connections and alot of hard work, it is possible.
Throughout history the unions have eventually destroyed great companies. They preach they don't want jobs sent out of country (self serving). They are every bit as bad as the current administration of the Federal Gov't. The only difference is that one bleeds the company dry until they go bankrupt, the other bleeds the citizen with taxes until they go bankrupt. If anyone (regardless of what side you sit on) doesn't see this as Communism, Socialism or Progressivism than you certainly need to have your Proverbial Head examined. If by a persons words he shall be judged than the entire Administration and all it associates with are Socialist and Communist. Enuff Said.
Sorry Mr. Pres oh I mean Mr. Stern (forgot who was running this country) this is America! It appears the US Supreme Court have changed the rules on your di nasty dealings. The American people have your # along with ACORN's. You spent all your workers retirement to get Obama elected along with previous progressives; this is why you thugs are trying to force Obama care, so you get it for free! If you get it for free then you can continue to spend your retirement funds to push the communist agenda. In about 5 years, you are going to have a bunch of angry employees on your hands having spent all their retirement to pay and bribe politicians. No more, the time has come and We the People are going to take our country back this November and in the next Presidential election you will be voted out (oppps) I mean President Obama will be.
Workers of the world unite! Under Socialism or Comunism all are Union members. Andy can hardle wait for (and is actively participating in) the collapse of our system. Under the weight of all the give away GOVT. programs, Union pension plans and insane spending it won't be long.
The Progressive agenda is clear (In a convoluted, twisted way)
1. Overload the system from as many angles as possible.
2. Build a framework to replace the system when it collapses (Never let a good emergency go to waste)
3. Keep chipping away!
i) Who said anything about skewing things to bring about equal results? All that needs to be done is to have those who are successful pay a tax (since they benefited more from the system) and in turn reinvest that tax on opportunities for those who missed them or didn't properly utilize them.
ii) No one is talking about a guaranty of equal results….just a guaranty of social justice. You can still be a lawyer or a banker or a doctor….but if I choose to be a janitor a bag boy or find that I serve the community better as a philosopher/activist…I still receive the same securities in life that you receive.
That's social justice, my friend.
It's not about equal results. It's about equal treatment.
You can probably find that in another country, but this is not the place that offers what you are looking for. Social justice is for losers, not for Americans. We have an entire branch of government dedicated specifically to constitutional justice. Their rules were articulated over 200 years ago and are irrevocable. Try as you may to chip away at the laws, the foundation was designed and built rock solid and will override any attempt to take away from our rights as We the People. One example is last week's ruling by the Supreme Court returning a portion of the freedom of speech that had been improperly removed. They, with their final authority, have declared the infringement invalid and restored that portion of our constitution. Expect more returns of rights unjustly infringed upon.
The unions are dying off naturally as the people realize their attempts at extortion. Bozo may carry a bat, but if he brings it at me, he will be met with rapid fire.
Barry is a temporary distraction and his time will pass. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger, and we are united in our steadfast determination that we will prevail, one nation under God. That, dear friend, you can take to the Tea Bank!
Ahhhh, sweet memories of our dear departed President Ronald Reagan and his strength of character in standing for what is right. When he got tired of playing games with the union and its air traffic controllers, he ordered the workers back to their jobs with the promise that if they did not, they would be replaced. The union workers did not report to work, and they lost their jobs.
Any country can print money but the country fail if they can"t back it up and your talking point are wrong you suppose to said it "Bush"fault.
This is Obama's new brownshirts, they are just waiting to be fully unleashed. I am sure that beyween them and Acorn…they are cominmg up with a warplan for the Nov elections to intimidate the voters
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