Israel’s Increasingly Dangerous Neighborhood
by Larry GreenfieldI was invited to speak on 21st century missile threats and defenses at the recent 7th annual Jerusalem Conference, 2010, held at the Regency Hotel on Mt. Scopus, in the city of David, but I was pleased as well to hear a wide variety of experts (speeches are delivered in English and Hebrew with convenient wireless earphone translation headsets).

This gathering is rooted in historic Zionism, the meaning of the land of Israel, and the spiritual meaning of Jerusalem. Many Israeli statesman and American political leaders come to address current security crises, as well as existential questions ever-present for the Jewish state still facing war.
The Palestinian Front
On the Palestinian front, many now believe that the idea of a small PLO state within the 1967 borders, to include Gaza, major parts of the West Bank and east Jerusalem, has lost its appeal within Araby.
Radical Islamism, unrealistic expectations, and daily incitement against Israel in mosques, the media, and madrassas, have all added up to another era of Palestinian intransigence and irredentism.
Unfortunately, the drive for Palestinian independence has not been equated with responsible state building leading to the kind of sovereignty that would help the Palestinian people themselves.
Palestinians universally wish to cast Israel off their shoulders, but this does not mean they support a fair division of land, or a desire to live in peaceful coexistence with a Jewish state in the middle east.
Israeli journalist and commentator Ehud Ya’ari stated that the Palestinians have now fully collapsed into the unwilling arms of the Israelis, and that Israel must urgently solve the seemingly unsolvable.
Israel is today faced with a reverse annexation: It is the Palestinians who have decided to annex Israel, because Israel did not annex them first.
A notion: Palestinians have long been suicidal, both metaphorically, and in recent years, of course, practically. They simply never stepped up to accept the responsibility of accepting a 2 state solution. Not in 1947, when offered a state by the United Nations, and not since.
Israel’s real interest, of course is in a peaceful neighbor, responsible and productive, even a trading partner. But, can Israel force Palestinians into democratic sovereignty? In fact, is any permanent agreement now possible since Gaza has been lost to Hamas, radical Islamic fundamentalists whose charter calls for the genocide of the Jews?
Since the 1993 Oslo Accords and the signing in Washington, D.C. of commitments, Israelis have seen their nation shrink, and their hopes dashed, by the failure of Palestinian society to reciprocate their moves for peace. Israelis have marched and sang for peace, and unilaterally withdrawn from major portions of the West Bank, completely from Gaza, and from their security buffer in Southern Lebanon (and before that from the Sinai desert and other areas).
Israelis now do not even visit their holy Temple Mount, because Muslim rule denies Christian and Jewish access.
A better idea: pathways to parallel statehood on the same territory. Forget about drawing borders and solving for all time the land dispute. No complex borders and tricky transportation connection between a somehow artificially contiguous Gaza and the West Bank. Just citizens with different passports. Jews with Israeli, Palestinians with Jordanian. All living together in a shared economic region.
Would that this have been the path. Instead, since Israel told the world and the Arab community that it questions its own legal and moral rights to its land, it has suffered a dramatically declining strategic position.
The middle east is far worse off for Israeli territorial concessions, which only served to inflame radicals. Hezbollah and Hamas now run Lebanon and Gaza, respectively. Israelis are terribly disunited and a post-Zionism has captured much of its academic community. Israeli quantitative and qualitative military edges shrink over time due to Arab oil wealth and the relativization of power due to the spreading of technology.
Israeli peace moves were met with bloody intifada, and with Iran now funding and training the terror attacks against Israel.
The good news is that Israel’s security fence (opposed 14-1 by the International Court of Justice by the way — the U.S. was the sole supporter early in the decade), has dramatically reduced daily terror attacks and given breathing space to both Israeli economic growth, and any hope for Israeli – Palestinian dialogue.
The bad news is that Israel’s foes just send mortars, rockets and missiles over the fence.
The United Nations’ purposefully hostile Goldstone report on Israel’s 2008 Operation Cast Lead in Gaza, in defense against thousands of rocket attacks on civilians over years, received strong condemnation at the Jerusalem Conference for its lack of objectivity and methodology, as did international media and academic blood libels, attempts at de-judaizing Jerusalem’s history, and repeated calls to boycott, divest, and sanction Israel, including by leftist churches (World Council of Churches, Sabeel, and Presbyterian Church USA),
The diplomatic climate for Israel has darkened at the United Nations, and perhaps the worst recent offenses are the British arrest warrants issued for Israeli politicians.
A recent keynote speaker at NYU Law School’s Hausner dinner was none other than Richard Goldstone. One pauses to ponder: Were there any pro-Israel donors in the crowd, and if so, do they have any idea of Goldstone’s nefarious role in serving the anti-Israel cause?
The NGO Monitor organization documents the formal 2001 Durban Conference strategy to use “lawfare” to demonize Israel through well-funded non-governmental organizations, which claim to be human rights organizations but are instead highly politicized and controversial, selectively using the mantle of international law to single out Israel for condemnations, investigations, and trials.
Repeated rebuttals to unsubstantiated and ideological attacks on Israel, including false claims of Israeli violations of humanitarian laws of war in Jenin and Gaza, in recent years, do not seem to slow the crowd which does not focus on Hamas or Hezbollah terrorism, but instead wails about Israeli disproportionate response in defending its tiny population. Israel sent warnings to civilians before hitting terror targets in Gaza. But the world condemns not the violation of the laws of war by Hamas, and Hezbollah, which hide amongst civilians, but Israel, which roots out terror only after years of suffering from it.
Fortunately, most Americans, who would not stand for 5 minutes any mortars, rockets, and missiles raining down on them from across our Canadian or Mexican borders, still believe in notions of self rule and self government, and not transnational law with the disgraced United Nations and biased NGOs as arbiters of sovereignty, security, or sensible defensive operations in response to terror wars.
Post 1948, within Judea and Samaria, there were no Jews before 1967, but still no peace. So “settlements” cannot possibly be the reason for terrorism, economic warfare against Israel, and incessant rhetorical / ideological war against the existence of a Jewish state, no matter it’s (tiny) size and borders.
Has the Palestinian Authority removed illegal weapons, outlawed terror organizations, or stopped incitement and hate education in mosques and schools and websites and in the media?
Even the “moderate” Palestinian Authority leaders Mr. Fayyad, and Mr. Abu Mazen, defame and vilify Israel. Israel is trying to join the OECD, a major economic organization, and a non-political one. Why do these Palestinian leaders continue the war and incitement against Israel? Fatah’s latest conference concluded with a call for more Armed Struggle, emphasizing that the Fatah constitution still refers to the end of Israel.
The Iranian Front
But the major focus of the Jerusalem Conference 2010 was the arrival of Atomic Iran.
There is a long history of positive Jewish-Iranian relations, and the people of Iran are not the enemy.
But the Iranian regime’s repeated threats against both world Jewry and Israel are matched by now well publicized military oppression if its own citizens. Positively, european leaders such as President Sarcozy of France are aggressively confronting the tyranny, terrorism, and nuclear threat presented by the Iranian Revolutionary Republic and its Revolutionary Guard Council.
Noteworthy, Ayatollah Sistani, who supports democracy from his own base of Iraq, is opposed to the IRGC. Many Iranian Mullahs as well would prefer to remain outside of political rule. Unlike Sunni Islam, many Shiite clerics do not prefer to be involved in statecraft and politics.
Ambassador Dore Gold, President of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, outlined how the entire middle east region is affected by Iranian pressure and proliferation. By crossing the nuclear threshold, Gold argues, Iran would provide an umbrella under which Islamist terrorism proceeds, less fearful or deterred by western response and defense.
Iran supports Hezbollah, which has perhaps more capability than al-Qaeda even to create mass casualty attacks on the United States and our allies. The marriage of terrorism and nuclear cover is today’s state of concern. For example, it confronts India, which faces Pakistani terror attacks under the protection of a Muslim bomb.
Iranian influence in the western hemisphere received special attention. In Central and South America, from the bombing of the Jewish center in Argentina in 1994 to today’s flights from Tehran to Chavez’ Venezuela, financial and ideological enemies of the United States are collaborating.
Raids on Caracas’ hebraic jewish club, day school, and synagogue, Chavez’ rhetorical assault on the Jewish community after the Gaza war, and his intimidation campaign against Jews, has caused many to leave.
The Response to Iran
Will Sanctions work ? Iran has exploited the process, with the EU 3 having failed to deter or slow Iranian proliferation. President Obama’s commitment to multilateralism, using the UN, gives veto power to China, dependent on Iranian oil.
Will Deterrence work ? The Policy of the United States has been: Iran must not get nuclear weapons. But if they do, of what value are western threats and complaint going forward in the nuclear age ?
Iran’s regime is ambitious, seeking regional hegemony, restoration of the caliphate, return of the 12th Imam, and pre-eminence of Shia Islam over Sunni. No amount of rhetoric or hand wringing by western diplomacy seems to slow them down.
The Iranian revolutionary regime lied all along about their nuclear program, including the recently revealed Qom facility, and now boasts a new generation of centrifuges, with enrichment of uranium to 20 % purity, followed by taunts about the price the west would pay for any effective sanctions.
The Jerusalem Conference is non-partisan within Israel, (and vis a vis U.S. politics as well), but President Obama, while rarely mentioned by name, aroused deep skepticism and concern.
His appointments of Chas Freeman (rejected Arabist U.S. diplomat and Saudi client) and Hannah Rosenfeld, (the anti-Semitism Czar who blasted Israel’s Ambassador to the United States), and his advisors on Muslim affairs, and to the Organization of Islamic Conference, and even to counter-terrorism positions within the administration, are all troubling left-wing ideologues. They are apologists for radical Islamism and far out of the mainstream.
Obama’s infamous Cairo speech, his deep bow to the Saudi King, the engagement with Iran and weak response to the stolen June 12th election, the beating up of Israel over 2nd story apartments, and the administration’s friendly approach to the United Nations and its Durban II planning conference and (anti) Human Rights Council are just a few of the wild and weak Obama approaches to U.S. middle east policy.
When Obama told the 2008 AIPAC conference that he support a unified Jerusalem, and then recanted the very next day, bells should have gone off. The President who was mentored by radicals in academe, who opposed Israel’s security fence and who disdainfully stated “you don’t have to be pro Likud to be pro Israel” has clearly picked a fight with the people and government of the Jewish state.
The Islamic War on the West
When Israeli officers enter battle, they pronounce: After me. Israel itself faces battles that eventually come to all who share its values of democracy, pluralism, women’s rights, and Judeo-Christian civilization. The Jihad rejects western ideas not only in its midst, the middle east, but the caliphate is meant to spread globally, and to conquer.
Many western policy makers mis-understand Islam, and Islamic self identity, and assume Islamic beliefs, traditions, processes, and motivations are the same as ours.
Legendary scholar of Islam Bernard Lewis explained that some thousand years ago, Arab theory stated that the essence of magnanimity is to spare your enemy when you have him completely vulnerable, but don’t try to befriend him now. He wants to battle those who do not submit. Islam means submission, and all must convert to Allah, submit to Islamic rule, or die. Temporary truces and practical accommodations are possible, but the world of Islam, Dar al Islam, must be brought to the world of war, Dar al Harb, meant for conquer and conversion.
The Arabic Salaam is close to Hebrew Shalom. But the greetings of Salaam are meant for peace to be upon those who are not infidels, kaffirs, non-believers. When President Obama used the explicitly Muslim greeting, in Cairo, to a large Muslim audience of believers, many within the Islamic world took that to indicate his choice to join them in their religion. This is a betrayal of the west’s belief in itself, its own identity, values, and beliefs, and only encourages the Jihad to sense more western weakness and incomplete dedication to its own tradition and meaning.
Mr. Obama further humiliated himself and the United States with his wrong and bizarre interpretation of President Jefferson’s having a Koran. Jefferson studied the ways of his enemy, the barbary pirates. He was an opponent of Islamic war against the infidel, not a fan.
The Christian notion of church-state separation has no similar parallel in Islam. The mosque is a mere building for worship and study. The mosque is not a complete institution like the church is.
Islam and the state itself are not separated. The entire state is Islamic, only and solely.
Moses never made it to Israel. Christ died on the cross and his followers were scattered. They are profoundly inspiring, of course, to Jews and Christians around the world.
But Mohammed founded a state that became an empire in his own lifetime. A glorified prophet who inspires as if he were here today. The 7th century is very much alive and motivating for Islamic Jihad.
The Final Threat
There were no Palestinians before 1948 (except as the term did refer to the resident Jews). Arabs rejected Palestine as a British creation, as artificial and cut off from Araby. The creation of a Palestinian people and conscience has been a political pursuit. Judea became Palestina, under Roman rule, but it was not an Arab entity. Greater Syria, Iran, Egypt are all much more important historical homes for Muslims. Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Koran.
But the goal of Islamism is to reject the Jewish Abraham and his covenant, and the promise of God to his people and their land. And to reverse Christ’s eternal theology of love and oneness, and promise of salvation. Prophet Muhammed’s truth is the final one. Therefore, to resist the infidel is to exist as a Muslim.
Jihad uses guerilla, asymmetric, and unconventional warfare, by both state and non state actors, and it is networked, lethal, alert, and mobile. IEDs, the use of civilians as human shields, and homicide/suicide terror all are means for Jihad.
Defending against modern terror requires new tactics of intelligence and renewed commitment. But modern western populations are distracted, tired of war, and unsure what constitutes winning. The war of ideas starts with understanding why we believe in our lives, our security, and our liberty.
Israel’s enemies have decided they cannot defeat her with tanks, planes, and masses of soldiers. So they have adopted the technology of missiles, which fly 24/7, are launched with the push of a button, are all weather, and can disrupt an economy, or the rallying of reservists. They are potentially anonymous.
And even when the source of launch is identified, through heat signature or satellite reading, for example, responding to first strike leaves the defender liable to complaint that he is using disproportionate response when the attacker hides amongst civilians, in schools and hospitals.
And, in an age of missiles, everything is faster. Israel’s margin for error is now measured in mere minutes and seconds.
The middle east is a region that favors power, strong horses and winners. But the western mind rejects the idea that others think, plan, and act based on ancient battle plans and a different tradition’s notion of humanity.
Israeli missile defense, against short, medium, and longer range missiles, with interceptors and lasers, layered and eventually meant to strike in the boost phase, over enemy territory, is the correct response to enemy proliferation.
But, in the final analysis, even hitting the enemy’s missiles over his own territory may not deter through fear of mutually assured destruction. Martyrdom and the purposeful coming of the final conflagration excite the true believers. Getting the warhead launched against Jerusalem is worth any risk of pre-emptive attack or second strike Israeli or American retaliation.
Without a liberation of Araby and the Muslim world from their political tyrants, and then the joining of the religious Muslim world with modernity, there is no settlement of claims, no final peace accord, no comprehensive agreement to be made. Diplomats think they can negotiate the solution to a clash of civilizations with the right code, compromise, or cajoling. But the Arab-Israeli conflict is not a rubics cube with a solution. Only fools who think they are wiser than history assert they know the secret.
The Jewish state of Israel is a small country with big dreams and accomplishments, but it faces a big threat. Both ancient and cutting edge, modern Israel is still spiritual but bloodied.
May the stones of Jerusalem remain a strong foundation for the deeper wisdom required by its leaders, citizens, allies, and supporters.






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Zionism is racism. It is the cause of the problem.
Yeah! Jews also caused the Black Death in the middle ages and were burned alive for doing so.
Cripes you anti-semites are just nuts.
WOW!
Talk about child abuse!
And 'Chairman O' wants to "negotiate" with these insane people?
What the hell is wrong with these people in DC?
Israel had it right from day damn one, 'we don't negotiate with terrorists'!
What the hell is The Fresh Prince Of Bill Ayers thinking?
You're too stupid to comprehend what you're saying let alone understand what Zionism is. Tell me stupid, what does Zionism/Israel/Jews have to do with muslims committing terrorism against Buddhists? What does Zionism/Israel/Jews have to do with muslim terrorism against fellow muislims? Don't you realize you're just a stupid pawn?
Zionism is not Semitism.
Randy is a punk and a plant by anti-USA forces to cause desention and dis-information. Stay strong!!!
That was absolutely awesome the way that went down.
Surprise surprise surprise another race baiting Marxist from the DNC rears their ugly head on Breitbart's website…
These Huffing-paint Post people are deplorable in their racist ideology and tactics…
Dream on. State like Israel has no future in the Middle East. If I were Zionist, I will get the first flight to Europe and get another Passport. I would be when the people who used to be the house I am in, are living a refugee camp next door.
Isn't that Jimmy Carters daughter and Grandson?
Oh look another leftist fascist…
Pathetic.
Another historical illiterate. Are all of you leftwing cockroaches this ignorant? [rhetorical question]
Really, you need no other reason than looking at that picture to oppose radical Islam, Hamas, and their Palestinian allies.
I wouldn't allow my child anywhere close to a mortar shell, much less hold the thing. Lets you know everything you need to know about their values.
Is that a bomb under your coat or are you just happy to see me..?
"people who used to be the house I am in"
Maybe someone should ask "Alice" how those wily Joos managed to sneak those 3000 year-old ruins underneath the al-Aqsa "mosque"?
Speaking of nazis, since you're a historical illiterate let me educate you to the fact that arabs, particularly paleostinians where they had the Grand Mufti, wore the nazi uniform and allied themselves with the nazis.
How quaint, the party of slavery, democrats, support nazis. Who in their right mind votes for these leftwing bottom feeding scum suckers?
Exactly. Or how they traveled back in time in their Zionist time machine where they cleverly placed the Dead Sea Scrolls to be found 2000 years later and surprise! it's written in Hebrew. Since Israel was "created" in 1948 according to backward inbred liberals the only possible explanation is a Zionist time machine.
A racist calling someone a racist…gotta love it…Most pallys were kicked out of Jordan for doing the same thing they are doing to the Jews….Jordan did not put up with it…The Arab world uses them as cannon fodder…
I'm sure you didn't even read this article.
Is there some anti-semitic search engine that helps you find this stuff (Jewgle?) so you can post this mindless, generic crap?
You have no comprehensive, integrated vision for a positive human civilization, so you just hate like other lame sheeple. Get a life…
Is that a bomb in your undies or are you just happy to see me..?
Just an idea, kick Iran's "Ham-ass" out of the Middle East, it is offensive that they have all
of that land for no good purpose.
(it is really weird too that I-slam doesn't like pork but they love "ham" – "Hamass, Moo-ham-mad etc…)
Please learn English and work on your grammar. Your sentence construction is deplorable.
Oh, and you're an Idiot too..
Good one GF, you rock!
No, he wouldn't allow anybody with any where near that dark of skin into his family. Probably just some friends of the family they don't talk much about…
You besmirch the name Randy.
ZING!
All hail the "12th Imam Mahdi" the savior and destroyer of all mankind…
Now kneel before The Fresh Prince Of Bill Ayers you ignorant peasant infidels..!
The replies here are so full of hate speak.
These people are "civilians", please show some respect for I-slam mothers and their children.
Why are they living in a refuge camp next door does't the rest of the muslim world support them? The palastinians serve a purpose to the rest of the muslim world. Their purpose is to be used for propaganda someone or thing to point at and say see I told you the zionists and their american supporters were evil look what they do to the palastinians. Where are all the muslims? why aren't they helpting instead of arming the palastinians? PALASTINIANS ARE TO BE USED FOR PROPAGANDA PURPOSES BY THE REST OF THE MUSLIM WORLD PLAIN AND SIMPLE AND OH SO OBVIOUS.
CNN's terrorist sympathizer Amonpour is interviewing Ehud Barak, the hatred is thinly veiled..
there must be something wrong with the palestinians. the rest of the arab world doesn't want them either. I don't see any of those other countries offering them land. sounds to me like they are a disease in that part of the world.
Agreed, Foamy! Why don't any of our Liberated Women ever complain, and I mean by demonstrating outside their embassies, about the way women are treated over there and why don't they rail against honor killings in this hemisphere? Why is it that Liberals are horrified if someone's father is a member of the NRA, but these pictures of children with guns and being taught to say "Death to the Infidel!" is just fine? Why do they practically want crash helmets on kids here riding tricycles, but not a peep about them encouraging their kiddies to get out there in the middle of a firefight and throw rocks? We're always wrong, they're always right. Why can't they see that they might be the first women to get beheaded, those movie stars with overlapping husbands and nude scenes? They think these people will love them!
The palastinians serve a purpose to the rest of the muslim world. Their purpose is to be used for propaganda someone or thing to point at and say see I told you the zionists and their american supporters were evil look what they do to the palastinians. Where are all the muslims? why aren't they helpting instead of arming the palastinians? PALASTINIANS ARE TO BE USED FOR PROPAGANDA PURPOSES BY THE REST OF THE MUSLIM WORLD PLAIN AND SIMPLE AND OH SO OBVIOUS.
OUCH
From the book From Time Immemorial………
"In 1958, former director of UNRWA Ralph Galloway declared angrily while in Jordan: "The Arab states do not want to solve the refugee problem. They want to keep it an open sore, as an affront to the United Nations, and as a weapon against Israel. Arab leaders do not give a damn whether Arab refugees live or die."
Arab leader King Hussein 1960: "Since 1948 Arab leaders have approached the Palestine problem in an irresponsible manner….They have used the Palestine people for selfish political purposes. This is ridiculous and, I could say, even criminal".
Just a thought, maybe we could send all the lefties from here, over there, bring the Israeli's over here, you know, trade off, being that this is the Promised Land spoken of in Deuteronomy !!! I know the Temple is there, but…..
Just saying !!! I know, I know, not practicle!!!
Unfortunately, our own United States president and his own felow progressives on the left, continue to contribute to the marginalization of the Jewish State. Mr. Obama spoke down to the Jewish People, publically demanding and requiring that they "make concessions," (i.e. give up something for nothing), in an effort to restart the "peace process." Mr. Obama looked like a shill making demands on behalf of his intransigent Islamic clients. He looks past the active support of the Islamic/Muslim people in their universal support of jihad, and in particular, the ongoing jihad against the United States, and more immediately, against Israel.
The sad thing is that our leaders are too ignorant or too dishonest, or both, to admit that there is no "peace process." Obama fails to speak out against jihad, (which forever makes peace impossible), and the very active terrorist acts being waged against us. This is not peace. This is surrender.
Note: above statement was intended to be sardonic and not taken literally….
Hamass are F N pigs.
Ethnic Cleansing = Zionism
Terrorism = Zionism
Choseness = Zionism
Racism = Zionism
Pathalogical Hatred = Zionism
Selective Amnesia = Zionism
Parasite = Zionism
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Game Over = Zionism
Game Over = Zionism
Game Over = Zionism
Game Over = Zionism
Mental illness = RichardofLongBeach
Alice in Blunderland
"I would be when the people who used to be the house I am in, are living a refugee camp next door. "
You are obviously a product of progressive, public schooling. Now, go blow yourself up.
You sound like Nancy Pelosi.
I think she is a first cousin of Ahmadingaling… they speak the same language.
Mebbe the Muslims referred to in both your examples aren't actually Muslims….
Well like Jimmah always says "What happens in Gaza stays in Gaza"
Just one more for the cause
OOps!! I think you forgot //sarc//
The Barbary pirates were very similar to today's Somali pirates, same tactics, same insane purpose.
RichardofLongBeach=psycho
RichRichardofLongBeach=delusional
RichardofLongBeach=insane
RichardofLongBeach=Jihadist
RichardofLongBeach=antisemite
Islam=cult
islam=murderers
islam=false prophets
islam=death
islam=mass murder
islam=nazi-ism
It's all spelled out exactly in Bible Prophecy…You don't want to be around then. Israel today is not really on a Spiritual Plane and there's very much disagreement amongst themselves. But that is going to change. They have their plans to re-build the Temple.
JEWGLE……..????????
Probably the best one word put down in the history of BG….I hope you have more there Galt, and please……
do share them.
"pound for pound"….
as a fight fan, I do like the way you described one of my favorite countries there wldbil.
The country to the North, is it Syria; didn't want to take the "Palestinians" back to their homeland. They were evidently lefted stranded on purpose to be a "thorn in the side" of Israel.
Or…Mental illness=DickofShortBus
oh boy, talk about a twisted out of this world report, the zionist art of twisting facts, you guys will make CHRIST look bad, OH YEAH YOU DID THAT !!!!!!!
Palastinians,… the most prostituted race in the world….
Muslims…….the biggest pimps going.
Thanks Ralph, I'm a pretty big fan of the 'sweet science' myself…
What in the hell are you trying to say? Is literacy really that difficult for you? Could you really be any less comprehensible?
Is what am saying you to for make sense? (thought I should try communicating to you at your level)
Please oh great one,….
don't let Nancy and harry beat us again
Randy where are you????…. you started out like a bat out of hell,.. and now????
Gilda (Randy) Radner: never mind……
"Peace will come to the Middle East when Arabs learn to love their children more than they hate the Jews"
Golda Meir.
The picture tells it all
Sorry Golda,… Peace,…..not yet.
Except now there is real money and in the case of oil and chemicals a real risk of making a profound statement.
I do wish that political correctness would be set aside and these pirates would be treated as such. We never have a good plank walking party any more!
What kind of idiot poses like this? They make hillbillies look like the top of the food chain.
LOL
Good one that…
heheheh
can't stop laughing
Learn to write before you spew your idiocy.
RichardofLongBeach; the name says it all. Some Dick from the Peoples Republic of California had something stupid to say. Really?!? Just stay in your gopher-hole, Pinko-Commie, Fantasy Land of Fruits and Dummies and let the people who are in touch with reality have intelligent conversations about world events.
Zionists are home invaders – no one asked them to move in to that neighborhood. They are on par with their former allies – Apartheid South Africa – and will go the same way. Good riddance.
Weren't the Jews kicked out of many countries? Seems they have something in common.
He's right. Zionism is indistinguishable from Naziism, Trotskyism, or any of the other vile collectivist schemes.
Israel was defeated by irregular Lebanese riflemen. They were defeated by Egyptians at one point. They are all show and no go. What the specialize in is terrorism like the assassination of an Hamas leader and false flag attacks like the USS Liberty.
The gap between the writer's perception and reality is far too wide. It would be amazing if someone can actually indulge in a debate with this lunatic!
Other than being named the same, what does one thing have to do with another? Can we rebuild Carthage? Ancient Rome?
Maybe they're Rastafarian's. Do you realize that more muslims in Iraq have been killed by muslims than US and its allies? Those committing the genocide in Sudan: muslims.
Muslims have committed nearly 15,000 terrorist attacks since 9/11……….http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
– David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.
"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
– Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.
"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."
– David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.
Dhass, Dhass, Dhass please tell me, I just have to know, what color is the sky in your world?
I see our government controlled by Zionist Jews in Israel. They control our politicians through AIPAC and JINSA, as lobbyists, they control the legal system, they control the medical and pharmacutical proffesions, they control the financial system, they control the media. They control the CIA and our military. The Mosaad has carried out false flag attacks and assasinations all over the world and certainly in the US too. Then you come out to say ISLAM is fighting a war against the United States? I don't see it. I see ISRAEL and ZIONIST JEWS making war on the US in every way, shape and form imaginable. This is just another propaganda "hit" piece.
Yes, Jews were kicked out of many countries. And they all suffered a decline or destruction in their relative standard of civility and prosperity.
Jews financed a large portion of the American revolution too. Hope they always feel welcome here. Little gnats like you are less than irrelevant…
Stop spreading the truth! It confuses all the small-minded bigots!
That is what these cultists are like!
You need help. Jewish doctors have developed excellent drugs to treat mental illness; in your case I think the only cure is one dose of .357.
That's what they say. They poisoned the wells and when the families died off they came in and bought the land at give away prices; just like the carpet baggers that came down and bought up land in the south. The game is the same, just a different era. Oh, and PS: We can see the megaphone is on.
What does Zionism have to do with Boshevism and Communism? What does it have to do with how the Palistinians have been treated? Got a few hours to hear that answer?
If the struggle between Humans and whatever you are ever breaks out into true warfare, I hope you survive long enough to witness your side's utter defeat.
I laugh at morons like you. Keep it up! We all need to smile…
You and your fellow leftwing AGW shytstains would know all about cultists.
How awesomely conveinient and fun…. To have a people in your country you can browbeat and kick the crap out of and no one cares… Funzies!
You know, I read a lot of your posts and I can't think of one positive thought or contribution made by you. Sure, I get a good laugh from time to time. But you know so much? Put up or shut up. Your anti-Jew crap is getting real boring.
The old cannard of antisemite is getting old, warn, passe, cliche, ineffective, ad nauseous, and downright tacky. Jews have no monopoly on human suffering. They've caused plenty of it themselves. Try joining the human race for a change; that is if you can get over being chosen and special.
And the sky is pink. I see it everyday when I ride to work on my Unicorn!
Thanks to the American taxpayer that pays for the weaponry. They bleed the American people like a bunch of parasitic leeches and the corrupt tax system, then buy our politicians and arm themselves to the teeth. Most importantly, they aren't courageous, tough, or pricipled. They are hateful, evil warmongers.
Jew double speak. As if Jews care about Arab children. Please……
They say the truth hurts. Thanks for another small sample of pain. Smoke 'em out & shoot 'em down!
Screw you
We're also under your bed.
Those who think that "Zionism" is the root of the problem need to do their homework.
“The last day will not come until the Muslims confront the Jews and the Muslims destroy them. In that day Allah will give a voice to the rocks and the trees and they will cry out, ‘Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him!’” — from the Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith
The Religion of Peace. Oh, yeah!
Historically, there even is no such ancestry as "Palestinian," that was a name that the Ancient Roman's put on that land area in the middle-east to "mock" the Jews, who were living there at the time! So, if it's Obama, Bush, FDR, or his cousin, Churchill, they all are consistent with continuing to spread the "lie" that there even are such "people" as Palestinian! Even the PLO's were led by an Egyptian! Why all this? Because "Lucifer" is in charge of this world and the world's "educated" idiots "intellectualize lies" that help "him" deceive the world! Not to mention, even the bible says that Judah would call it's name "Israel" in the last days, but it was not! The lost tribe Menashsheh (America) is Israel in the last days! Progressive thought taught in our schools does it! The bible says so! Just like it says that "HEBREW" is the "ONLY inspired text"(Daniel 5) and everything MUST be PROVED by it! Also, the "Hebrew" AGAIN will be the universal language in the future (Zephanyah 3:9) and "Yahweh" speaks in Hebrew for you believing the law has been done away with (Acts 26:14)! Furthermore, there are no J's in Hebrew, just because the Pope in 1520 asked Petrus Galatinus to change the Jewish Messiah's Name to honer the highest Greek deity, "Zeus"! The 3 rd commandment says FRAUD!!! Sorry, but this is written and does not disagree with what the bible really says in Hebrew! Yes, even what is written in the New Covenant must be proved by the OLD Covenant in HEBREW! If the Bible is not true, it does not matter, but if it is, it's not going to be as pretty as all these Jesus lovers think!
Zionist Jews love to claim that the Jews once had a homeland in Palestine but history proves time and time again that Palestine was the 5th province of Darius the Great of Persia and that no history beyond the Hebrew Bible ever makes any claim for a Jewish kingdom with a temple in Jerusalem. There simply isn't any forensic evidence for such a civilization … the so-called "Jews" first came into existence during the Hellenist Greek times when these Judeans (Jews) refused toto assimilate with the cultured Greeks and finally chased them out of the country. The Romans came in then and restored order but these circumcised Judeans continued to cause much trouble until Rome finally conquered the land and exiled these people from Jerusalem.
Man, you're all over the board. You must be on the megaphone, huh?
the trolls pop in ,pic a nic then pop out like zits
They also financed Hitler out of New York City and were almost single handedly responsible for the most evil government the world has ever seen. No, not Nazi's, Communism. The Jewish Bolshevists made HItler look like a boy scout. Don't see you mentioning that fact.
Are you on the megaphone?
a twit by any other name is still a Dhasselhoff
How many homelands does Jews need? Isn't USA enough? Next thing they will demand us invade the Planet Pluto for their orginal homeland. Buzzards }}}sreal
All i can do when i read a post such as yours
is just shake my head and sigh in wonder
that there are still such as you
which make a great case that we shouldn't
fight against abortion.
I couldn't think of a suitable description to fill the blank
So are you a skinhead or a neonazi? whichever you have no shame.
I'm always about learning. Name some names. And ask yourself: Have I seen Galtfan say that all Jews are Angels? That their sh*t don't stink too?
You see, I recognize that evil comes in many forms and from many sources, some that even believe they are doing it for the "betterment" of mankind. I don't tolerate putting all people who share a common trait or characteristic into one big basket. Are there rotten evil Jews? Sure, but to me they are just rotten evil People. You think ALL blacks are criminals or that "Mexicans" are lazy? I don't buy into sh*t like that! The truth is right in front of me daily.
Take the blinders off…
WOW Do you ask yourself WWHS(What would hitler say) before you type
Are you on crack?
The "Women in Black" complain all the time–About ISRAEL, not about Islamo-fascists who behead and who amputate other organs besides heads. The Left is so screwed up it's hard to begin analyzing all of its woes.
If you were a zionist I think the zionists would leave to. I know I would.
jojo was a man who thought he was a woman
but i digress
Pluto is not a planet buzzard bait
Hi my names Mike and I'm an anti-semite biggot, I also like to touch children and myself in my spare time, just like the muslim men. I like boys and I like em alot.
and the comet is coming back
go buy your blue suit and tennies
Just got out of my KKK meeting and am on my way home to punish my child for drinking chocolate milk. I've told him a thousand times we only drink white milk. I think the jews taught him to drink chocolate milk. I hate the jews for that.
its pink with lil rainbows there wldbil
Maybe the hypocrites should stop spreading lies. It appears that the real bigots are also the hypocrites.
And what about the King David Hotel bombing,…. that one of famous examples of why…..
Israel is the worst thing since the snake in the Garden of Eden.
"Israel was defeated….." yep they sure got a real ass whuppin there… almost as bad as all the other wars since 1948ish….. Sorry there Dhaffy,… but….
One Israeli man equals 100 Arab "men"……….it's a bitch when God is on your side.
HIstorically the Palestine has been around since the dawn of history. Herodotus wrote of Palestine almost 500 BC when the Persian Empire owned the area including Egypt. There were no Jews or Arabs at this time however, and that is one of the most covered up subjects ever to stain the history of mankind. The so-called Jews first entered recorded history during the time of the Hellenistic Greeks when they rules Palestine and tried to assimilate these Judeans (Jews) into their culture. Some of the Judeans (Jews) did convert to the culture and the Greeks allowed then to continue their religious practices unmolested, but other Judeans who were circumcised objected violently and began to massacre these cultured people because they did not want to be assimilated with the Greeks who performed their gymnastics in the nude and a circumcised male stood out and could be identified as a barbarian.
So this was a war for independence for the red neck Jews who wanted to keep to themselves because they rejected the civilized culture of the Greeks who wanted equality for all subjects.
The first mention of Jews occurs about this time and when the Romans moved into Palestine these Jews continued to rebel against Roman authority much as they had done against the Greeks. Again no one threatened to harm the Jewish temple worship but the Jews did unsavory things that the Romans just could not abide by such as animal sacrifice and refusing to acknowledge the Emperor as chief of state.
Is there some semitic lie engine that helps you along with the propaganda? There is you say? And it's called megaphone? Tell us about it.
These people did not want to get along but to just keep causing trouble and more trouble, until the Romans turned the legions loose on them and destroyed their temple worship and criminal activities. The arabs came into this country around the 7th century out of Arabia and North Africa, but the Palestinian people have been around for much longer than either of these two groups.
check the following link to Herodotus for his history of this land:
book III (90-91)
http://books.google.com/books?id=bR0MAAAAIAAJ&...
Okay, I'm confused. What I posted was supposed to be a response to DHasselhoff. WTF happened here?
If it applied to you as well, it stands. If not, my apologies…
its a bomb cuz its wife says there aint anything else down there
i prefer the keel haul method my self
Maybe he is. Here I thought I was typing, and this nut can actually hear me?
"ALLAHU AKBAR!" Right Randy? Don't you have a bomb vest fitting to go to?
If you were part of the conspiracy you would know it is not called megaphone. I WOULD tell you, but then I'd have to kill you…
I think you're outnumbered. Time to circle the wagons.
Don't start quoting from religious texts. The talmud is full of juice….
Bravo! in a nutshell!
That is one helluva library you got there Dhaffy and I am totally impressed with irrefutable sources, however,….
as the old adage says,… actions speak louder than words, so my question to you is how many Israeli parents proudly display their children cuddling a bomb.
As far as building villages?????……It has always worked for me
As an architect, I have designed many structures in many villages,… but…. I always….
had to use paper, pencils and compasses,…. never a bomb
Hopefully one day, Palestinian mothers will realize this and put a pencil in a child's hand instead.
Your name is Schmooley Goldstein and you're on the megaphone, ha ha!
You're the most putrid, vile, contemptible sack of human excrement I've ever witnessed.
BTW, Big… why do so many of my posts get deleted while truly hateful garbage always stays?
Is it that little "Report" link?
You know, you just may be right there Mikey……
But surely you must realize there, …..beside all this "Jew double speak" just maybe these folks,….
are to busy protecting their children to concern themselves with the children that are being brainwashed to…
kill them. Just a thought though,….. lets hope some day Israelis will have the time for such concern.
Zio propaganda – they are the best in world at it and the Arabs don't stand chance of not being framed up by the cunning ones – see the Arabs are like real people, while the zio's just see exploitation in everything and everyone.
Their Talmudic indoctrination from birth allows them to justify any hateful action to themselves as they have been told their very existence is permanently threatened, thats my the hollyhoax myth is so useful, not so much to fleece Germany but to terrrorise Israels own Jews into the kind of behavior Zionist leaders want.
The country is collectively insane – which is why it is the primary danger to the world
Does your cousin Dhasselhoff approve of your take on antisemitism.
You know, if you had shown an IDF soldier wearing a yarmulka standing in front of an Israeli flag holding a little future zionist killer, or an American soldier standing in front of an American flag there would be no outrage. Your tactics are more than a little worn; they are worn out! The Arab peoples have a right to defend themselves, a right to self determination, and a right to nationhood. Getting tired of Jewish smear tactics.
You mean like dust mites?
I love the way you pick and choose the comments. No freedom of speech here.
Does it ever hurt? Like, do you ever get headaches from the strain? Because you read a whole single book! (or did you) That has to be hard work for a dumbass such as yourself.
Try not clicking links to bigoted sites and read SEVERAL more books. You never mentioned anything about the Chaldean named Abram or what happened with him, did you? You never mentioned that Philistines were Semitic/Mediterranean peoples but that there have never been "Palestinians" until fairly recent history.
I will check back and see how many more of my comments you remove.
Oh shut the F__K up Osborn……THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY, but……
lets take your immature reasoning to its ultimate conclusion…..
There is….. "simply no forensic evidence" …..of Caveman B ever living in the same cave as Caveman A….so..
Give it back Cavemen B and don't pull this shit again, otherwise,…….
we can just stop all this evolution stuff right here and now…. and besides….
I'm sure they are going to invent human bombs in the not to distant future and things…
could really get messy.
I have no shame for telling the truth, you're right. You have no shame for the most wretched of circumstances. How pathetic can you be?
Ya, I think you are right there Luay,….."……reality is far too wide"
Let's just keep making more human bombs out of our children. Maybe something will come of it.
Very good article. More please from this writer. Some of the posts are not worthy of the erudition in the article.
You mean "jojo" the idiot circus freak is really "Sweet Loretta Martin"?
This writer is clear thinking, balanced, and wise. You are not, Luay.
You THINK???
I ain't outnumbered, and wouldn't care if I was. Right is right. No mass-murderers in my neighborhood, not on my watch. Racists and bigots not welcome here.
Circle the wagons is OK with me….as long as I have some Israelis fighting next to me.
Us against anti Jews and Muslim "men"…..
I'll take that fight with one hand tied behind my back.
His first sentence was fine and then he had to get all loony. I'll never understand the mindset of folks who spend so much time on bizarre conspiracy plots.
It just seems that way Mikey,… actually we are just closing in on you,…come on use your brain….
say something intelligent,… you just may get out of this fix.
If not, I'm sure Fonz does. ; ^) I wonder if this guy is serious, or if this is just some twisted way to try to stir the pot.
I'm surprised you aren't on the domestic terrorist watch list yet, don't worry we'll take care of that for you!
Dirt bag!
Apparently this Alice is stuck in Wonderland still. (Apologies to the real Alice.
)
If I were Jewish I'd either pick the US or Israel in point of fact. Europe isn't safe for them. Anti-semitism is alive and thriving in Europe.
Oh for his mother's sake,… I hope it's the pot option.
I love to have sex with camels and children can you guess what religion I belong to… if you said islam then you are correct
His Farsi is showing.
Hi my names Ralph and I like to read and rewrite history, when I'm not rewriting history I like long walks in the rain thr
doh
Ah some folks just can't leave that grassy knoll alone.
Why is everyone against me is it that I'm the town a-hole or something? Just because I condone and support terrorism is no reason to hate me. Oh-Oh my camel has that look in his eye again, wooohooo looks like I'm gonna get some.
Must have been take your children to work day from the picture or Parents day at school….
Ignorance does not rule over the truth no matter how many times you ry to shut people up.
The so-called Jews who arrived from Europe to uproot the Palestinians are not even semitic
but are Ashkanazis, a tribe of Khazaria who converted toTalmudism in the 7th century. Talmudism
is an off-shoot of the Pharisees oral traditions whom Jesus warned against in his day. These
so-called Jews from Europe are not even active members of most synagogues except for special occasions … they are atheists and don't believe in a god. The typical synagogue today is not like
a church but rather a cultural center based upon race and blood for the most part. That is why just anyone can't be a Jew … one must be born a Jew through his mother or to go through a special
process in order to qualify. The modern Jew is more concerned with Hanakka and the 7 lighted candle because it celebrates their rejection of assimilation with the rest of mankind. These are racist bas*ards.
I don't care how many peoples you give states to in the middle east(Zionists included), they will fight ,just like they have fought for the last 10,000 years.As a US citizen I am sick of wasting our money on this so called middle east peace.They all want to kill eachother, then being the freedom loving citizen that I am, I say let them have the freedom to do so, just keep your hands off my money.
http://torahcode.us/torah_codes/anger_wrath/birke...
or not enough
Truly wasnt what i was expecting.
just makes you wonder at the mindset
of those who would deny it
maybe so there Donny….
but I also believe that knowledge acquired from confrontation is also helpful,…otherwise…
all we will be doing is noding our heads in approval….must admit however,….
it does get a tad primitive at times.
they are one and the same GF
(speaking to self) (i dont think the grassy knoll is loony)
your not reading this are you?
no
good cuz i wasnt saying anything
the truth is out
Screw the Arab peoples rights. They lost those several hundred terroristic acts ago. They have the responsibility to show that they can behave in a civilized manner, not only to their own people, but to other civilizations throughout the world. They have shown an inability to live up to this responsbility. They have shown only the ability to foment hate and death by spreading the cult that is Islam. Since their societies have shown either an inability, or lack of desire (me personally, I think their evolutionary tree has been cut off at it's branch, so there's no way for them to evolve) to live peacefully in this current day and age, there is only one outcome for them……………….
been hanging around dhasseloff havent ya
Thanks Gregory, when I posted this morning I was sort of tired(didn't sleep well last night) after I posted I thought it was kind of dumb! I did some others that were dumb this morning also!
"And the LORD spoke unto Moses, saying: ‘Command the children of Israel, and say unto them: When ye come into the land of Canaan, this shall be the land that shall fall unto you for an inheritance, even the land of Canaan according to the borders thereof. Thus your south side shall be from the wilderness of Zin close by the side of Edom, and your south border shall begin at the end of the Salt Sea eastward; and your border shall turn about southward of the ascent of Akrabbim, and pass along to Zin; and the goings out thereof shall be southward of Kadesh-barnea; and it shall go forth to Hazar-addar, and pass along to Azmon; and the border shall turn about from Azmon unto the Brook of Egypt, and the goings out thereof shall be at the Sea. And for the western border, ye shall have the Great Sea for a border; this shall be your west border. And this shall be your north border: from the Great Sea ye shall mark out your line unto mount Hor; from mount Hor ye shall mark out a line unto the entrance to Hamath; and the goings out of the border shall be at Zedad; and the border shall go forth to Ziphron, and the goings out thereof shall be at Hazar-enan; this shall be your north border. And ye shall mark out your line for the east border from Hazar-enan to Shepham; and the border shall go down from Shepham to Riblah, on the east side of Ain; and the border shall go down, and shall strike upon the slope of the sea of Chinnereth eastward; and the border shall go down to the Jordan, and the goings out thereof shall be at the Salt Sea; this shall be your land according to the borders thereof round about.’ And Moses commanded the children of Israel, saying: ‘This is the land wherein ye shall receive inheritance by lot, which the LORD hath commanded to give unto the nine tribes, and to the half-tribe; for the tribe of the children of Reuben according to their fathers’ houses, and the tribe of the children of Gad according to their fathers’ houses, have received, and the half-tribe of Manasseh have received, their inheritance; the two tribes and the half-tribe have received their inheritance beyond the Jordan at Jericho eastward, toward the sun-rising.’
To:
"I wouldn't allow my child anywhere close to a mortar shell, much less hold the thing"
Well, wouldn't it be nice if Israeli women felt the same. Instead, those wonderful mothers have their children sign the Israeli bombs fired on Palestinian children. Little notes to the 1 and 2 year olds about to be burned alive. How sweet! How motherly! How….Israeli.
That's horrible. We just shoot Israeli women and children, even babies.
I am, how dare you enter the Jewish bible as any form of truth or history in here.
read and heed the words of Jesus … he declared these people as snakes and murderers.
Yet you are so ignorant of the truth … history does not support this Jewish claim of some
King David or Solomon. Rip out this Jewish bible or Old Testiment from your Christian follow the words of Jesus.
It really is sad that you could be so completely ignorant. You cannot understand Christ without context. Often, within allegory lies Truth. Both Covenants are necessary, to all true Christians, because the Old is fulfilled in the New.
Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2093...
You're living by destructive and ill-formed pretexts.
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/72
This is what is really going on.
Well I am quite sure that it would not be new for you but your blog s fantastic! I am sure that many guys would have told you before but I thought to let you know myself and boost your confidence.
Just remember that whenever "civilian casualties" are reported in the Middle East – take a good look at these "civilians".
However, do not attempt to use your freedom of speech to identify the enemy correctly.
May the crisp odor of bacon cooking and it's oil linger forever around and upon the Swine known as Hamas
and all Islamic Terror Enthusiasts.
The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah … " — from Sahih Muslim 1:33
Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah." — from Sahih Bukhari 2:24
The Religion of Peace. Submit, and you shall have peace …
Just because you have been taught all your life that the New Testiment is the fullfillment of the Jewish bible is just a bunch of crap. Read the New testiment about how Jesus cried out against the Pharisees, he was not any Jew but they had him killed by the Romans. The Pharisees of Jesus time later put down in writing the Oral traditions of Man spoken of by Jesus … this was done several hundred years after the death of Jesus … and this written form of the Pharisees became know as The Talmud, the most hated book during the Middle Ages. Thomas Jefferson would not allow any copy of the Old testiment in his presence but he did read the New Testiment.
Ah, we missed you gloomy presence dhasselhoff.
But, considering that Israel is not an apartheid state, with a full fifth of its voting citizenry Arabs, your comparison doesn't hold up.
All this talk of home invasion ignores the millions of Jews who were born in Israel, who've never known any other country and don't care to. But hey, what's a few pesky facts when it comes between you and the death of Israel.
I say a full brain transplant is needed, stat!
I wouldn't ask him to think too much, it puts a strain on his hernia.
Yep, those are Jews all right. You can tell just by looking at them…….right? EVERYTHING you guys think about this non-event centers around that. Other pictures ended up being confirmed as Russians killing Poles.
YES, YES, YES!!1 but what does my 'ignorance" and your subsequent intelligence (?), as well as all this 7th century (wow) history have to do with these WHACKY Muslim mothers who dress their children with bombs.
I don't give two F__KS about your knowledge of history it matters nothing to me…..
what does matter to me is what can we (you and me) do to keep this poor child from blowing himself up.
Why is Israel is touted as a "homeland for persecuted Jews" that most Jews don't choose to live there?
Because Thomas Jefferson was an off and on Deist. And Jesus, Mary and Joseph were Jews, fully observant of the Covenant. Notice at Jesus' presentation at the Temple where they fulfilled the required observances and two Saints (who were Jewish) were honored, Simeon and Anna. The disciples were Jews. The Apostle Paul, himself a Jew, remained fully observant, “blameless” under the law and was also nazir even after his conversion.
And the Pentateuch, Psalms and prophetic books are the same today as before Christ's birth.
Holding on to Hatred and un-forgiveness is like holding on to a poisonous snake….it will wrap itself around you, it will bite you and inject its venom. It will make you sick. It will eventually kill you. If you learn anything from Christ you should learn this: that God loves all equally and unconditionally. God desires mercy for all of us. It's up to us to choose whether or not we will run from His mercy and love.
He said, if you want mercy, give mercy…. if you want forgiveness, give forgiveness. He even taught us that was an important thing to ask for when he taught us how to pray. Think about it.
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Israel is pound for pound the toughest country on the planet. I wish i could congratulate
Over half of the world's Jews do live in Israel. The reasons the other half don't live in Israel are myriad, from economic to political. The fact is, Israel was originally a haven for Jews escaping the slaughter in Europe. Most of the new arrivals in the late 1940s were fleeing from concentration camps and Russian pogroms.
No one wants the Palestinians their only usefullnes to some is as a political distraction to attack Israel and appease the great uneducated masses of the ME.
Funny the Brits are all concerned the Mossad may have used some fake passports to kill that Hamas murderer but when Putin's thugs were killing Russian dissidents on British soil they were scared to speak up at that.
I absolutely love to encounter shills like you … don't you ever get tired of repeating the same old rhetoric … Arabs evil , Islam evil , blow up Iran, Jews good, etc. etc. Really you are little more than little boys playing in the highway … not even knowing where you are or how to get out of the way of the truth.
Now this site that I have linked to is a site covering the works of Herodotus, "The Father of History"
Please read it in part at least … you can still keep your little bigoted views but at least some part of your brain will never go back entirely to the same dank, dusty, dark hole it once resided in once you have seem some little part of the truth.
book III (90-91)
http://books.google.com/books?id=bR0MAAAAIAAJ&...
Now here is another version by another scholar …
remember it also is book III 90-91
http://books.google.com/books?id=ENw9AAAAYAAJ&...
and if you still want more references for information about Palestine read this.
Remember Palestine was the 5th province of King Dariusof Persia … it ws not named by the Romans who were wtill only a distant dream back then … this happened in the 5th centruy BC, before christ for you. Tell me how much trribute these Palestinians paid to the Persians will you?
http://www.livius.org/da-dd/darius/darius_i_t08.h...
Never heard of Philistines or Cannanites outside of the Jewish bible. OK!
When viewing the middle link look for the number 168 in the small box at top of the page
Now I feel sorry for you. I shouldn't have called you a dumbass.
I once read Herodotus…. and Aristotle, Plato and even *gasp* Aquinas and more. Try cracking open a few more books and try to look for balance and context. And you can end the pretense that you're just a misguided Christian, as you've been doing in other posts. You're no Christian if you give greater import to Herodotus than to the Word of God.
You can call me a "shill" if you want….but for Christ. And if you read the other reply you know I don't hate anybody and why I can't.
See? I usually pass through here to crack wise and you had to make me get all serious. I'll give you credit for that. But I'm done with you. You truly are hopeless. Sorry.
There was bound to be one.
"Furthermore, there are no J's in Hebrew, just because the Pope in 1520 asked Petrus Galatinus to change the Jewish Messiah's Name to honer the highest Greek deity"
If that is your attempt to prove that Jesus was not the Messiah then you did a pretty poor job. (Jesus's Hebrew name was Yeshua).
I am so sick of the religion of peace. Muslims are obsessed with violence and rape. And they haven't done anything except to take, take, and take from non-muslims.
Palestine was never a legitimate country. When Arafat was offered the West Bank (let's call it what it is: the Israeli land of Judea and Samaria), Gaza, and the halting of new settlements, he still rejected it. Muslims will never accept anything less than the destruction of Israel. Or Christianity. Or whoever isn't muslim.
so you are claiming that Jesus was a Jew and all of his followers have to be Jews in order to enter Heaven?
Israel post on Big Gov't – check
Dhasselhof posting – check
fonz posting – ??? wtf
All right people no more posts on this page until the fonz is found. We must keep all nuts in one location. So stop what you are doing. Looking around, someone go flash the Jew symbol in to the sky so that the fonz knows whats going on.
Jim, please refer to Jews Against Zionism and other anti-Zionist groups which include many many Jewish people. Zionism is a political movement, not a religion, nor is it about race. A Jew is a person whose religion is Judaism. When people start using the "hate word" or "anti-semitic" word, it is often out of context or out of ignorance. These same Jews who are against Zionism do not hate other Jews, they just disagree with Zionism.
Let us keep things in context or there can be no intelligent conversation.
Sounds like the dilemma of American Indians, huh?
Well you do remember that Jospeh Kennedy, the father of the former "Lion of the Senate" loved Hitler, and tried his best to destroy relations between England and thr US before WW2 started. A matter of fact a lot of the main progressives at the time were big Hitler supporters
Let us be clear of whom Jesus was … he was a Hebrew savior for the lost tribes of Israel.
Now the so-called "Jews" took over the Hebrew bible and claimed it as theirs much like they have claimed much of America as theirs.
Jesus repudiated and denied their claims as the heirs of the original covenant and they threatened violence if the Romans didn't kill him. Jews as we know them today didn't exist in the very beginning of recorded history. They first appeared during the last days of the Hellenistic Greeks and the beginning Roman occupation of Palestine likely around 100 BC.
These Ashkanazi claims of being heirs to the Israelites are pure BS … invented to cover their seizure and robbery of the natives of Palestine for their lands and property.
If you were really a Galt Fan, you would know that Ayn Rand was about the rights of the individual, not the collective. Collectivism is rampant on the left and on the right. Collectivism is totally opposite to the rights of the individual. Zionism is collectivism, as are many other movements and ideologies.
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/collectivism.ht...
http://freedomkeys.com/collectivism.htm
Go and tell these Jews about their anti-Jew crap.
http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/
http://www.jatonyc.org/
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.nkusa.org/
You must be about 10 years old in your mind.
No surprise to see good old conservatives using liberal tactics when they have nothing else to argue with. We are doomed if this is the best conservatives can do. (PS, I am a conservative.)
No, you are wrong … according to Wikki only 33% live in Israel … that translates to about 1/3 don't you agree, or did you ever attend any school besides that shill school for brainswashing … which you probably got overdosed on. Hopefully you are just ignorant and not deliberately lying.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population
The so-called "Jews" in Israel have about as much of Jesus' blood in them as I do. Besides, who cares about a God who picks favorites? Not me, and I'm not scared either
Forget about "religions" of peace. The Catholic Church has a Christian history of violence that curls the hair. People are all the time talking about "religions of peace" , while chomping at the bits to send our soldiers to kill and be killed.
That's what Thomas Jefferson said when Islamic Pirates were attacking our merchant ships.
Oouch. Pancy Nelosi Sneaker of the House is the step sister of Hamass.
That satement should have been … are "so full of hate speech". The point is, is that I-slam can say whatever the hell they want to say but everyone else is supposed to shut up and take I-slam abuse.
Chicago Ralph …. I don't want to see any child blow himself up, including this one in the photo.
Do you really believe that this child is in some immediate danger of being blown up?
Its just a photo of a assumed mother and child … I have a photo of young Israelis painting graffiti on shells and bombs about to be shot out of a cannon … should you worry about that also?
get a grip Ralph … you at least have a good name.
“O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.” — Q’uran, Surah 5:51
Damn that CIA,… they it to us again,…. I knew they didn't look Muslim.
Then what could they really be there Hmmmmm.?????
I liked the idea, too. We are living in the Promised Land of Milk & Honey, the recipient of Jacob's Blessings. But those blessings are quickly going away, as The Promise was conditional.
Hey Alice you should put your application in at the White House, there is definitely a job there for you in the three years Comrade Obama's Islamic administration has left before we kick his @ss out.
Ah, the poor, wailing anti-semites.
So upset that horrible Jews and allies of Jews stand up to them and repudiate their lies.
How sad for them.
What a lovely picture of a Palestinian family ready to go on a picnic, how can anyone question the motives of this religion of peace? (sarcasm off)
Guess you missed the "Factual Accuracy Disputed" label above your citation. Stop using wiki to justify your incompetence. It's a good way to get basic information and to seek out other sources, not as an actual source. The assumption that 33% live in Israel means estimating the world Jewish population at around 15,000,000, a claim disputed by Jewish organizations who put the number between 10 and 13 million.
So, assuming for a second that you're claim of 33% is true, that means a third of all Jews live in Israel. Imagine if a third of any other religion lived in just one country.
Like I said, the reasons that not all Jews live in Israel are myriad. Some are happy where they live, usually in America or select bastions of freedom around the world. Others can't afford to uproot. The cost of relocating an entire family and rebuilding one's life from the ground up is not small, and only people who have suffered horrible atrocities and mistreatment in their former countries really have no choice but to return to the Jewish homeland, such as the Ethiopian Jews who now form a sizable community there.
sorry … really you are the one to be mourned over.
For what price have you sold out your children and grandchildren?
You worry too much about your "imortal soul" than you do about reality and what will happen to your offspring.
You are a shill … albeit an unpaid one , but you do the same service as those who get paid for doing what you do in here.
Have you ever wondered why these "Jews" from Europe can claim their ancestors once existed in Palestine?
Zionists = Rev. 3:9
You mean other than it being true?
You mean other than the Jews who were living in the region before the aliyah's of the 20th century?
You mean other than over two milennia of recorded history?
Because in case it escaped your notice, even if we assume that all of the history of the Tanakh is made up, even the sources you cite admit to a Jewish presence in the region for more than 2,000 years.
Someone tell mike and hassel that the birds of prey have been repopulating the Holy Lands.
They have an appetite for Idiot-ites.
Of course, we know what the prophecy is about the birds of prey.
No, no! Let him cite wikipedia. Then I can ask, "What about the . . ."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians
2 million out of 8 million live in Albania
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians
2.5 million out of 7.3-7.4 million live in Armenia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_people
2.3 million out of 18 million live in Spain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_diaspora
4.5 million out of 30 million live in Scotland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_people
3.9 million out of 80 million live in Ireland
and not have to do any serious research.
Not everyone gets to live in their homeland, and not everyone gets to return the moment an independent homeland is reestablished.
The Palestinian people and the real people of the area, practising the Judaic religion got along fine, until the Zionists from the previous phallic-worshipping KHAZARS, decided to adopt the teachings of the Hebrew religion, and then create a “homeland” in Palestine. By coercion of Britain, after financing the first and second world wars, on both sides, they were able to steal this land from the Palestinian people. These Zionists are not “God’s chosen people”, Israel was created by terrorism and fraud. They are war criminals with their Operation Lead Cast, and they are guilty of organ stealing from their dead victims. They have perpetrated false flag attacks, such as the USS Liberty incident, they have massive spy operations going on in “friendly” countries. The list is just too long. Israel has kept the Middle East unstable since it’s inception, and by deceit they conduct all their affairs. If you think phosphorus-bombing civilians is OK, and organ-harvesting is OK, I don’t want to know you!
Excellent points. Some people have a blind hatred of Israel that borders on the mentally unstable. It is a prosperous, thriving country of freedom loving people. Its military is the best in the world after the USA, and it stands in defiance of Islamic jihad and its backwards ideology.
the author is a zionist idiot 1908 5000 jews 300,000 palestinians in palestine ever looked at a old globe in your classrooms it never said israel it says palestine mohamed did convert people in the middle east to islam a thousand years ago since then not one time did a muslim army or country try to convert enyone to islam we dont need to we are the fastest growing religion in the world we just want our third holiest city back we dont hate jews or the west matter of fact spain kicked the jews out 800 years ago and they moved and lived in syria for 775 years peacfully with us muslims yemeni jews lebanese jews morrocon jews iranian jews they where all living with us for thousand of years our neighbors next door they worshiped and had there synagogues in muslim countrys prophet mohamed had a christian as a neighbor he never hurt them as a lebanese muslim growing up i was thought to respect all religions we just dont want people from all over the world coming to ourland and kicking us out like they are doing now and taking our rivers and running them dry and we believe in jesus he is our prophet so is abraham he was our first prophet and moses and mohamed they where all messengers of god. please dont believe the lies of this author bunch of propoganda extremist
Which is why they have so much hate.
A free people, standing up for themselves, against a corrupt and oppressive ideology?
Who knows what that could lead to!
Well, I'm laughing at you, because you can't handle the truth. When you get huffy it shows youl've lost the argument.
i hope one day the palestinian people will have a home and the 400,000 palestians refugees living in refugee camps in lebanon for over sixty years will have a home to back too and israel will stop demolishing palestinains houses in the west bank that have been for a hundred years and kicking the familys litterly on the streets with all there belongings on the street on the basis of not have "proper permits" they do it daily we see it on al jazeera and you expect us muslim to love israel and want peace hey if they back to pre 67 borders we muslims are kind people its tought in our religion to help the needy its a duty we might be able to live in peace
They have a home, in the part of Syria called Lebanon. After all, that is what "Palestinian" leaders told us that your people were – Syrians.
If you want to complain about your Arab brothers in Lebanon not allowing you to build proper homes, complain to them. The Jews allowed all Jewish refugees who were expelled from Arab countries and who came to Israel to build homes and become citizens. And note, they were actually refugees, not migrant workers who ran off so invading Arabs could more easily slaughter the Jews.
And yes, if you do not have a permit to build a house the building can be demolished. That is the same law for Israeli Jews who build without proper permits. It is also the same law in the United States for Americans who build without proper permits. Southern Syrians are not above the laws of civilized nations.
mohamed, do you ever read anything or study anything ? the arab world has used the palestinians as pawns…you know the arab world — full of butchery, tyranny, oppression of women, brutality, poverty, lack of book reading or writing or inventions or anything the modern world might appreciate ? the refugees are the fault of arab world keeping out palestinians, never helping their brothers…….your revisionism about Jews and Islam is stunning….the arab world kicked out the jews…..and now virtually has destroyed all christian life within the middle east…..you write not a word about the fact that the Koran does NOT EVEN MENTION Jerusalem….you write lies, rubbish, and you don't even know it.
Tell me, how is peace going to come about?
And I don't care about gripes from the past… right now, what will it take for there to be peace?
If you have the answer, please advise the leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah. And have a talk with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad while you're at it. And what are Wahhabis in Najd doing to discourage terrorism being advocated in Madrasahs? That's a bunch of people to talk to, but if we're going to get serious about peace, dialogue and action are necessary.
So no armies since 1010 AD or thereabouts?
Then who conquered Constantinople in 1453?
Who besieged Vienna in 1529, and attacked again in 1683?
Who was it invading India up until the 18th century?
Your third holiest city? The one not even mentioned as such in your holy book?
As opposed to Jerusalem being the holiest city of the Jews, with the holiest location?
And likewise for Christians.
And suddenly Hebron is the fourth holiest city of Islam? It really is a holy city for Jews, containing the second holiest site, the Cave of the Patriarchs.
And Bethlehem, a holy city to Christians as well, is the location of the Tomb of Rachel, another holy site to Jews.
Somehow it is impossible for Muslims to show enough respect for those locations.
As for rivers, the only people running them dry are the Syrians and Jordanians. The reason there are no water resources being developed in the Palestinian Authority is that the Palestinian Authority is too corrupt to develop them. Instead the majority of water going in comes from Israel, drawn from Israeli wells and aquifers.
ever hear of arab leaders calling for tossing the jews into the sea, Mo? ever hear of the genocidal charter of Hamas? ever hear of death to america? terrorism? murder of olympic athletes? blowing up buses, planes, ?
DO YOU THINK Americans are not on to your BS ? take a look at the Gallop Poll of Americans views of Israel vs. the Palestinians? Maybe we are onto the mosques and hate speech in the Arab world ? WHERE are the voices of PEACE in the Muslim world ? Try a different tactic Mo. How about…..it's not the 13 million Jews on earth fault that the 1.3 billion Muslims are not free…..LOOK within brother….Islam has some modernity to do……
When the Arabs ruled Jerusalem, until 67, they sacked Christian and Jewish holy sites, destroyed cemetaries, etc.
Where are the example in the 22 Arab states and 57 Muslim states of pluralism and coexistence?
Women cannot drive in Saudi Arabia, Mo. Churches cannot be built. Jews are not allowed in the country.
Wake up, Mo. Heal thyself. Arabs have more rights in israel than anywhere in the Muslim world of 1.3 billion
you guys are trying to manipulate the world that you own palestine yes we muslim need to be more modernised into the 21st century and let women have equal rights in the gulf and saudi arabia but look at lebanon a democracy with freedom of speech freedom of religion dont tell me about my religion buddy you know nothing plane and simple the dome of the rock mosque in jerusalem is where phrophet mohamed descended to god and we 1.3 billion muslim will never ever ever rest without it in jerusalem we have fought for it for a thousand years lost and got it back plenty of times and trust me we will agian ever heard of salah eldeen ayoubi i know more history then you will ever imagen we created the first boats phenecians we where the first traders we also created the first alphabet we where the first astrologers and doctors its just we have been opressed the west supports our dictator/kings aslong as they do what they are told they are allowed to do whatever they want. it will all change one day its on the horizon
Lebanon also is a Republic in that requires representation for Christians and the president is Maronite Catholic. If Syria and Hezbollah would butt out Lebanon would be peaceful and even more industrious.
Then why does it not say anywhere in the koran that Jerusalem is the location of the "farthest mosque"?
Because it is not. That story was made up decades later in an attempt to control the area. If the site was so holy to Muslims they might actually pray facing it, and not turn their buttocks to it.
It was conquered once, lost once, and reconquered again, the last time by a Kurd, and not a Palestinian or Arab.
The Phoenicians were not Muslims. They hardly could be having thrived 3,500 to 2,300 years ago, more than 800 years before Mohammed was born. They did make boats, but hardly the first, the Greeks and Egyptians had ships well before then, among others. Likewise for being traders, having an alphabet, being astrologers, and having doctors.
As for having dictator/kings, Muslims have been ruled by those since the beginning of the faith, including Saladin, who you refer to so fawningly.
I would say you know more fantasy than I know, but as it happens I am almost as big a fan of that genre as I am a scholar of history, so in fact you know vanishingly little of either compared to what I know if this is any indication of the extent of your knowledge.
You just keep getting crushed Mo ! Bronx has you good !
By the way, the Arabs stole the technologies and inventions of the zoroastrains; it was part of their brutal conquest against non believers….stop with the glorification of Arab science and math….all stolen. Where is the contribution today to the world from Arabs, Mo ? Suicide bombers and oil resources do not a civilization make.
At least you have been (self-) exposed for your brainwashed thinking…..you have been taught garbage, Mo.
Your response made me think, too much pot, maybe.
JoJo,… I bet right now you wish you should have left Mike and Dhaffy on their own….
they were doing just fine sticking their feetses in their mouths.
Way to go,… now you are the village idiot,……. maybe you should just stick to astronomy.
So…as a shill yourself, are you on someone's payroll or do you just do this out of hate?
Yes the mossad squad have done their job .. for nowon Hamas leader must learn from that to reply against the Israel leader. Please sent the another squad to tel aviv do the same thing and what the world say…..
Yeah, kind. Why is it Israel who has to give up land? Why doesn't Syrian or Egypt accept the Palestinians? BTW, Palestinians were originally from the areas of Syria and Egypt. Why don't these countries accept the Palestinians? Whyy don't muslims in general help the needy Palestininans since helping the needy is a tenet in your so-called religion?
I hardly believe that it's Israel's fault that Palestinians don't have land. When Arafat was offered a huge hunk of Israeli land, he still rejected it.
Right now, Israel is probably focusing on its 150th Nobel. Maybe somebody in the muslim world can get started in trying to get their first one.
The Whole issue come down to two questions and it all gets much clearer:
1. What was the name of Israel before 1948?
2. Who do we call palestinians.
The rest is just intellectual masturbation….
Forgot that Arafat got the Nobel prize. I'm sure should be respected in the same way that the Jewish people have won Nobels in medicine, science, and literature.
Randy ist ein Schrank Nazi-Sympathisant und Antisemit -ya? Seig Heil Randy – Sieg Heil Obama!
Blah, blah, blah…look at the boundaries. Even "coalitions" of Arabs can't beat the IDF. Egypt is lucky the IDF gave the west bank of the Suez and the Sinai back to them.
The IDF and IAF have HUMILIATED Arab/Muslim "armies". Muslims – pu$$ies and terrible armies.
That's why they turned to terrorism.
israel manufactures some nifty arms Bud. Get you head out of Dhassel's ass and wise up.
Islam=Terrorism
over 200 posts but not enough attention to the interesting insights of the article itself….parallel statehood idea stands out as most intriguing….Jews have Israeli passports and citizenship, Palestinians get Jordanian ones….enough already with the decades long failed peace processes…….also like the analysis of how fundamentalist Muslims today still celebrate the military assaults of Mohammed as somehow triumphant and relevant today…..while Jews and Christians are more humble and have made peace with modernity and pluralism….
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So… they'll squash you like a bug as soon as they trace your IP, right?
(What's that old joke? Two Jewish men sitting on a park bench, one reading a Jewish newsletter with dismay, the other reading an anti-Semitic newsletter and laughing. The first one asks the second why he's reading that. Answer: "When I read your newsletter I hear about how badly we're treated and it's depressing. When I read this newsletter I hear we control the government, the banks, the media, everything!" Or something like that.)
How can yiddish speaking European Ashkanazis claim that their ancestors once lived in Palestine? These people don't even resemble the people of the Middle East either in racial charactics or behavior. they are entirely alien to that region and yet they claim that they have a right to invade and displace people who have lived there for hundreds and thousands of years? It is absolutely absurd.
Scary picture isn't it? The next generation of hate filled terrorists being raised by hate filled parents. Sad, truly sad. Does anyone really think there will be peace in that part of the world? What a lost cause!
If the Bible is NOT the LITERAL WORD OF GOD, then the Jewish “right” to Palestine is just a MYTH also.
The President of the United States has just admitted that the Bible is NOT LITERAL.
09 Dec 2008 Mr Bush, who leaves office January 20, told ABC television, Asked whether the Bible was literally true, Mr Bush replied: “Probably not. No, I’m not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it.”
“The Jews took Israel from the Arabs after the Arabs had lived there for a thousand years. Israel like South Africa, is an apartheid state” (Rand Daily Mail, 23 Novemeber 1961). Those were not the words of Nelson Mandela, Archbishop Tutu or Ruth First, but were uttered by none other than the architect of apartheid itself, racist Prime Minister, Dr. Hendrik Verwoerd.
IF, Israel wanted peace, it would FLOOD Concentration Camp GAZA with food and healthy economic activity. Did America launch massive assaults and shoot Black American Women and Children dead in the streets or use Jet Fighters and launch Artillery and Missiles into CIVILIAN areas? NO! Israel does so because Israel wants Ethnic Cleansing, NOT peace. Where is Israel's Recognition of the PALESTINIAN'S RIGHT to EXIST!? Israel demands the Palestinians "repudiate" this and that …Does Israel REPUDIATE the TORAH???? Israel was White RACIST, APARTHEID, South Africa's ONLY ally, trading weapons, torture techniques, NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY, with them. Today Israel continues Racist APARTHEID with it's wall. Israel enforces laws that are straight out of Nazi Germany such as Palestinians must have different colored ID cards and license plates, JUST like the yellow stars the Jews WAIL about having to wear. Palestinians have to use separate roads, IDENTICAL to Black and Whites Only drinking faucets.
Israel and South Africa were virtually twinned as military allies for Pretoria helped supply Israel militarily in the immediacy of its 1973 setback and Israel came to support apartheid South Africa at the height of sanctions with weaponry and technology – from naval ships and the conversion of supersonic fighter planes to assistance in building six nuclear bombs and the creation of a thriving arms industry. Israel resembles apartheid South Africa at its zenith – even surpassing its brutality, house demolitions, removal of communities, targeted assassinations, massacres, imprisonment and torture of its opponents and the aggression against neighbouring states.
Israel has been PRETENDING to care about African Americans, so they can STEAL the taxdollars that SHOULD have been repairing schools and infrastructure and providing police protection in the Cities. Year after year BILLIONS of African American Tax dollars buy more APARTHEID-suppression for the NATIVE PEOPLE of PALESTINE instead of improving life for the Black People who earned those dollars.
"Palestine is not the original home of the Jews. It was acquired by them after a ruthless conquest, and they have never occupied the whole of it, which they now openly demand. They have no more valid claim to Palestine than the descendants of the ancient Romans have to this country. The Romans occupied Britain as long as the Israelites occupied Palestine, and they left behind them in this country far more valuable and useful work.
"If we are going to admit claims based on conquest thousands of years ago, the whole world will have to be turned upside down…"
—Lord Sydenham, Hansard, House of Lords, 21 June, 1922.
* "If it is proper to 'reconstitute' a Jewish State which has not existed for two thousand years, why not go back another thousand years and reconstitute the Canaanite state? The Canaanites, unlike the Jews, are still there."
—H.G. Wells, quoted by Frank C. Sakran in Palestine Dilemma, p. 204.
* "Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English, or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct."
—Mahatma Gandhi, Tendulkar, Mahatma, Vol. IV, 1938, p. 312.
The term Palestine was given to the area by the Roman Empire as a slap in the face of the Jewish people.The old enemy of the Jewish people, the Philistines, were destroyed by the Jewish people long before the Roman Empire. The sick twisted Roman empire thought it would be funny to use the name Palestine as a reference to Philistine. Also note that the land of Israel is the only land deal made between man and God. He (God) made a covenant with the Jewish people for this land and does not take lightly to people trying to split it up or taking it away from them. We find direct reference to this in Isaiah 24-5.
"The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant."
At some point soon the man of lawlessness, the Anti-Christ will make Israel enter into a treaty which splits up the land which is the breaking of the everlasting covenant. Al Gore's push on the Climate lie has nothing to do with the climate and everything to do with setting up the world government. The current health care (Enslavement Bill ) here in America is also part of this agenda. I wonder sometimes if the powers that be are basing their climate change push on the fact that the bible states that there will be changes in the weather. I can assure you that the government is well aware of biblical facts. Take for instance the comet "Wormwood".
Revelation 8-11
"The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter."
Now go check out this website which is a joint American – Australian government Planetary Defense system named "Project Wormwood".
http://www.ips.gov.au/IPSHosted/neo/
I can tell you that this is not by chance.
Our race is the Master Race. We are(CONVERTED KHAZARS,THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN,FAKE JEWS,,REVELATION 2:9,3:9) divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."
— Menachem Begin – Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983
Mohamed, your ignorance just got FACED by Bronx and Drew. We have not even begun to bring out the BURKA & Butchery on young women issues yet…..honor killings, etc. You really want this discussion, Mr. Mohamed, about how great the Arab world is ??? I bet a pretty large percentage of American women might not like what you are selling.
Wow there Mark and Ralph. You guys want to be really really pissed off? Look up a map of the world printed before 1948!
Looks like those Marxist Trotskysit revolutionary propaganda has done a good job on many RINO Americans..
Should have seen the lecture at CPAC called "you have been lied to: why real conservatives don't support war on terrorism". It was an eye opener.
yup. used like toilet paper by Muslims that usually use their hands.
1. The Mutasarrifiyet of Jerusalem, part of the Vilayet of Syria
2. Southern Syrians "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria." – Ahmed Shuqeiri (later Chairman of the PLO)
What? You do not want to go back to 1918 and the Ottomans, or take the word of southern Syrian leaders?
How can Arabic speaking Muslims claim their ancestors once lived in Egypt? Those people do not even resemble the people of the Nile either in racial characteristics or behavior.
How can Arabic speaking Muslims claim their ancestors once lived in Spain (al-Andalus)?
How can . . . (I can go on for quite some time.)
If you are going to make up nonsense and attribute them as quotes to people, you could at least make a vague effort to make them semi-rational.
"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism."
- Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
I see your racist, and raise you a fighter for justice and equality.
The rest of what you right is nonsense and lies that have been debunked repeatedly. There are Christians and Muslims in the Israeli government, at all levels. No separate roads exist in Israel. No separate ID cards exist in Israel. Scream your lies all you want, it will never change the truth, or deter people who speak the truth.
Certainly secular Jews have no business in Israel. If you don't beleive in God, you can't possibly beleive that land is yours.
The fact is that the Palestinians are simply a tool through which the Muslim world wages it's proxy war against Israel. Were the nations supporting the Palestinians so inclined they could simply invite the Palestinians to come live with them. Instead they fuel the fire by providing them with weapons and inciting them to commit acts of violence against Jews. Meanwhile Israel has no choice but to deter violence against them by answering each and every attack with a noticeably more forceful response.
Muslims hate Jews. Islam demands they hate and kill Jews and so as long as Israel exists Muslims will seek to destroy them. If a Jewish nation existed at the north pole the Muslims would still wish to destroy them. The Jews on the other hand wish only to be left in peace.
"I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation."
- John Adams, former U.S. President, 1818
"I have never met a man more fair, candid, and honest."
- H.G. Wells, regarding Joseph Stalin
"Hitler killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs… It would have aroused the world and the people of Germany… As it is they succumbed anyway in their millions."
- Mohandas K. Gandhi, Louis Fischer (1950) The Life of Mahatma Gandhi, p. 348
Hmmm . . . now whose views on Israel/Zionism should we give the most weight too?
Rod please read this and stop being so ignorant of history.
Palestine existed long before any Jewish nation or even Jews existed … do you understand a time-line
for history. for example, Egypt first existed as a civilization about 5,000 years ago and they built large temples and pyramids which still stand today. You can actually go to Egypt and see these structures and you don't have to consult any bible or religious book to do so. That is forensic evidence that the ancient Egyptians existed many years ago. You can see it, touch it and photograph it, and even test it for its antiquity or age.
Now in the case of history there have been individuals who traveled the world and saw and described things and places in a written form and they had no theologicial axe to grind, that is, they just reported what they experienced and wrote it all down for posterity. Unlike a religious book which has a stated purpose or agenda, the written histories by noted people who also had opinions written about them by other people known to exist at that time and these and other works testify to the worth and truthfullness of what they reported.
The land of Palestine was known even in ancient times, long before the alleged Jewish civilization with a temple at Jerusalem was ever reported. In fact the earliest known version of the Old testiment was written in Greek and it is called The Septugant … so what is this a Jewish bible written in Greek? Well the Greeks came to power after the Persians lost control of Palestine when Alexander the Great traveledd through there on his way to Egypt. But before all this Darius the Great ruled Palestine and it was called Palestine-Syria then, and it was his 5th province and paid so much in taxes to his treasury.
However during all this time during the centuries before the coming of the Romans and the so-called Jews, there were many rulers over Palestine, to include Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, and the Greeks. None of these empires wrote of any Jewish civilization in Palestine with a large temple in Jerusalem. Why would they have tolerated any such powerful military entity sitting along their trade routes … the idea is absurd.
"Scholars disagree as to whether the archaeological evidence supports the biblical story of there having been a Kingdom of Israel of the United Monarchy that reigned from Jerusalem, as the archaeological evidence is both rare and disputed"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
We have as evidence that Palestine existed at least 500 BC from the histories of Herodotus who traveled that area and he details so many accurate things that no one can dispute his history. Some claim that Palestine was named after the so-called Philistines, a people that never existed except in the Jewish bible. After the Jewish revolt as put down the Romans renamed this area back to its ancient name Palestine, and Pliny wrote in the 1st century that this area was " formerly called Palestine" Anyway Philistine is just arabic for Palestine so the argument is moot. Palestine has a long history of being Palestine.
book III (90-91)
http://books.google.com/books?id=bR0MAAAAIAAJ&...
this should read " World War III"
Palestinians are not nomads or Bedouin … they are mostly farmers, shopkeepers, tradesmen, or professionals of some kind. So it is safe to assume that if a Palestinian has the keys to a house in Palestine, most likely his family has been living there for a long time. After the 1948 Israeli invasion of Palestine, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were either killed or threatened with death if they did not flee and leave those areas that the Ashkanazis had declared for themselves. Now over 60 years later the Israelis will not allow these people to return to their homes or farms, and must remain in ghetto style refugee camps living under horrible conditions.
Palestinians have been around or thousands of years but the so-called Sephardic Jews and the semitic Arabs have been recognized as ethnic groups for much less time … the Judeans (Jews) are the same racial stock as the Palestinians … both inhabitated the Levant for thousands of years as one people, but around 150 BC some converted to Judaism while others later turned to Christianity, and even to Islam,as it later came on the scene in the 7th century. So you have Palestinian blood flowing in Sephardic, Christian, and Muslim veins. These people lived side by side peacefully for hundreds of years under the Byzantine and Ottoman Empires.
Then came the fall of the Ottomans and the takeover by the British after WWI. Zionists had been promised a Jewish homeland in 1917 in payment for bringing America into the war, and the Jews of Europe (Ashkanazis) began a terrorist campaign to make the Brits keep their war-time promise. After WWII was over the Brits left in 1948 and the Ashkanazis began to sweep large numbers of Palestinians out of their lands and villages or to kill them. Thus the zionist dream of a Jewish homeland was achieved at the point of a gun. The christian zionists believe that this Israel is necessary before Jesus will appear again and bring them home to rapture. that is, to escape death.
Today the situation remains elusive and there seems no chance of peace. How can there be peace when a complete stranger occupies your house or has torn it down and built another house on your property. And this stranger claims that his god gave your property to him to keep in perpetuity. But under international law, it is legal to use any means to throw out any robber or stranger who has invaded your property or endangered the lives of you or your family. The Us backs Israel every time no matter what has happened … this is wrong.
In payment for bringing America into the war? What bit of revisionist trash did you dig that out of?
It was in return for support of England during the war, including raising troops for the attack into southern Syria that drove the Ottomans out. Meanwhile the Arab Muslims that were supposed to be helping did much of nothing, except show up at the last minutes to rape and pillage their way through Damascus.
The state of Israel does not base its claims on divine mandate. It bases its legitimacy on a UN mandate to partition the land, combined with the right of conquest by the defenders in a war of aggression, as universally recognized under international law.
Indeed, the Jews were in Israel long before the Arabs left Arabia at the head of the Muslim wave of conquest, and stole the land. They were there before the Turks left central Asia, converted to Islam, and conquered the region from the Byzantines. They were there long before the British conquered the land from the Turks. So yes, they have every right to fight to reclaim their lands.
However, it is not legal under international law to use "any means" to expel someone. Suicide bombings of family gatherings, random murders of women and children in schools, and other acts of terrorism committed by Fatah, Hamas, and other groups are all war crimes under international law.
Any nation, especially the U.S., should be proud to stand up for a people enduring such atrocities in defense of their ancestral homeland, and the new homes they built in the wasteland the Arab and Turkish Muslim invaders had turned it into.
"The state of Israel does not base its claims on divine mandate."
The Israelis must be laughing at this all the way to the bank .. of course the Ashkanazis base their claim to Palestine on the bible … god gave it to them in perpeturity.
".. It bases its legitimacy on a UN mandate to partition the land, .."
Now who gave the UN the right to partition this land. There were Palestinians already living there … how would it sound if the UN declared your property was to be "partitioned" and given to complete strangers?
Hey Osbon, there was no "1948 Israeli invasion of Palestine." Israel was attacked by all surrounding Arab countries after its founding and there was no separate "Palestine." The Arab countries directed the Arabs living in Israel to get out or risk getting killed in the attack on the new State of Israel. Get your facts straight.
Except Israel is not ruled by "the Ashkenazis".
It is also not ruled by the Sephardim. (The other main branch of Jews, whose existence you seem eager to overlook, probably because you know they are the Jews who always lived in the Middle East.)
Israel has a parliamentary form of government, where all citizens, regardless of race or religion, are allowed to vote and hold office.
As for who gave the UN the right, that would be as inheritors of the League of Nations.
Who gave them the right?
The Ottoman Empire, as part of the peace treaties ending WW I.
However, assuming no such right exists, then under the international law you are so woefully ignorant of, the territory is regarded as "terra nullius", in which case anyone may establish a claim and government, which includes Jews from Europe, despite your lust to deny them the same rights as all other human beings on the face of the earth.
Good point about the poisoning of the Russian, Greene. Not a word was said by ANYONE in Europe, let alone in England.
England had lost the war by 1917 and was ready for negotiations with the Germans for a return to pre-war borders, but the zionists who had been pro-German before the war saw an opportunity to get Palestine for their homeland if Britain defeated the Turks who were allied with Germany. The ashkanazis had failed to get approval from the Turks for a homeland and so they now decided to help Britain win this war by bringing in the US and in return the Brits would grant them a homeland in Palestine. Now get this, Palestine was not some desolate barren place like the vastness of the moon, no, it had living human beings and those people who saw what was , knew that the Bolshevik Jews from eastern Europe would annilate these simple farmers and shopkeepers … so some nice words like respecting the indigenous people in their persons and property were inserted but everyone knew that once these communist fiends were given a green light then katie bar the door for any unlucky Palestinian who didn't run fast enough.
Wow…great article…solid analysis of Palestinian rejection of peace, and the Iranian threat. And the mindset behind both.
Good writer. Shame that many posts rant and don't address the article's insights.
Arabs come from Arabia. Copts come from Egypt, Berbers and other people come from North Africa.
Just like in Israel, the Arabs in those countries are invaders.
Considering the Sephardic pronunciation is the basis for modern Hebrew, your information regarding their "second class" status is even more incorrect than your falsehood regarding the status of Palestinians.
""Under UNRWA's operational definition, Palestine refugees are persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict."
Why doesn't Israel allow these people to return to their homes? The Israelis themselves admit that they intend to keep Israel Jewish … this means that those Palestinians can't be allowed back in or it will upset their plans for a Jewish state. I have a feeling that you know all of this but just can't allow yourself to accept the truth … at least you did some of your homework better than the regular shills who just call names.
You are seriously confused about the course of WW I.
The U.S. entered in April 1917 after the publishing of the Zimmermann Telegram, where Germany was had made an offer to Mexico to attack the U.S., and the sinking of several American ships by German submarines.
The Balfour Declaration, issues in November of 1917, was related to the development of acetone by Chaim Weizmann, a chemist and Zionist leader in England. Acetone was a key war material to make cordite, which Britain needed.
"Israel has a parliamentary form of government, where all citizens, regardless of race or religion, are allowed to vote and hold office. "
Yes I grew up in the South under the US constitution including the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments which guaranteed full civil rights for 90 years with the right to vote and it still took the Civil Rights Acts of 1965 and a lot of Negro marching to overcome the denial of full rights. So your claims that Israel has laws guaranteeing full civil rights for Pals is just talk and nothing more. The results for Israeli behavior towards Muslims or Christians shows a far different situation.
What results?
They have full rights to vote. They sit in parliament. They own property.
There is no discrimination against Christians or Muslims in Israel. The assertion is a complete and utter falsehood, with absolutely no evidence in existence to support it.
Hey guest … where do you get your information from?
I have heard this same story in various forms for 20 years now …it is not geting any traction and will not fly anymore.. Israeli gangsters began to genocide villages long before the war started as you call it. The Czech commuinst began shippiing arms to the Ashkanazis long before the Brits left … these people were not even religious Jews but communist thugs and murderers. The Arab states were not heros either … they were just as bad as the zionists in most ways and committed many atrocities. But the native Palestinians were just trying to keep their lands and homes.
Because their homes are in other countries, they always were. Wandering across a border a month before a war does not make you a long term resident of an area, which is the lie you just repeated.
As for why others cannot return, it is because their is no obligation to do so. Also according to that international law that you like to blather on about, once you live in another area for a certain period of time, you become a resident of that new area, and not whatever area you came from.
It is unfortunate you have not done any homework and are just repeating the same old tired set of lies in the hopes that no one who can refute them is available.
Where do you get your information from?
Arab Muslim genocide against Jews in the region began in 1920. It featured the ethnic cleansing of Hebron. You said people faced with such violence were entitled to take any actions they felt like to protect themselves. Why do you deny that right to Jews?
As for you obsession with Ashkenazi Jews, whose name you still have not spelled correctly, it is beginning to look like more than just the average amount of racism. What do you have against Ashkenanzic Jews anyway?
"Wandering across a border a month .."
Palestinians are not nomads … they are farmers, shopkeepers, craftsmen, and professionl people.
Nomads might wander but these people did not wander. If their family had a land deed going back hundreds of years it didn't matter … they were evicted or killed.
According to the definition of Palestinian refugees, Palestinians are anything.
Your claim that all "refugees" had lived in Israel for centuries is false. You can repeat it a thousand times and it will still be false.
I do not use a prepared text either.
I do however research things before posting at random, and a name like that is rather simple to confirm.
It does however stand as evidence of your shoddy scholarship on the matter.
I do not pin any hopes on my scholarly manners but do hope that more people will not just take our versions of this history but will explore and do their own research and find more of the truth. It would be a waste of humanity to just allow this situation in the Middle East to deteriorate into World War III on a mistake or even worse, a lie.
So you are posting without any regards to the accuracy of what you are saying, and you expect that to somehow help the situation?
And to cover for posting whatever random slurs against Jews and Israel you feel like, you claim to be serving humanity?
Yeah.
Right.
The first recorded appearance of the Judean (Jews) was during the revolts by some Judeans who had been circumcised against the Hellenistic Greeks who thought such genital multilation was barbaric, since they the Greeks, performed gymnastics in the nude. Many Judeans assimilated into Greek society and became loyal citizens with full civil rights as well as full religous rights to practice their religion unmolested. Other Judeans refused this offer to assimilate, revolted and began to massacre the Greeks and their converts. These "Jews" won their independence and adopted the 7 candle menorah as their symbol.
Soon the Romans came on the scene and invaded this rogue nation of Judea and eventually banished these "Jews" from Jerusalem and established a Roman city with a the remains of a Roman jail or guard house still standing. It is currently shown to tourists as the so-called " Western Wall" of their bogus second temple.
No one know where or why the supposed first temple disappeared and there are rumors that it lies under the golden Dome of the Rock a Muslim mosque. Well the Arabs are not talking and neither are the "Jews" about this situation but evidence shows that there will be an attempt some day to destroy this Mosque and likely World War II will result.
i admire both of these posters for their civil and deep discussion.
I have been to Israel and Muslim countries. Bottom line, Arabs themselves would prefer to live in Israel.
It is a fabulous free country….and the Muslim lands are a far cry morally, economically, etc.
I am concerned about the Palestinian narrative about 1948. it is just not true that some colonial Jews took over or expelled the Arabs. There were far more Jews than Arabs in Israel……the Arabs were offered a state and rejected it….the Arabs ruled without respect for Christian or Jewish holy sites…..I could go on and on but whatever the exact history…..Arab terrorism and tyranny repulses almost every American and decent person and has set back peace and prosperity for the Palestinians…..they are suffering in refugee camps because that is where the PLO and the Arab world and the UN have wanted them……almost all the world's refugees have been absorbed around the world for decades….but the UN had a separate refugee agency just for the Palestinians….to keep them there as a thorn and political prong…the UN is made up of many dictatorships and block voting by the Arab league, etc.
Think about it……
No, it is not safe to assume his family has lived there for a long time.
"Under UNRWA's operational definition, Palestine refugees are persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict."
That means a "refugee" could have rented an apartment as little as 1 month before the Arab states declared war on Israel and the "refugee" fled at their order.
Nor did Israel invade Palestine. There was never a nation called Palestine, so it would have been rather impossible for anyone to have invaded it.
As for "ghetto" style anything, once again that is the responsibility of the Arab states that refuse to provide homes for the Palestinians.
I thought Palestinians were Arab Muslims? Now suddenly they are some other pan-ethnic group?
In fact, they are not. The group that includes both Jews and Arabs are the Semites, not the Palestinians, or the Canaanites, or any other group.
As for living peacefully side by side, living as second class citizens does not qualify as "peacefully".
Palestinians can be Sephardic , Christian, or Muslim. All came from the same racial stock but different religions.
they are distinct from the Arabs from Egypt, North Africa, or arabia.
The ashkanazis (European Jews) are distinct from the Sephardic Jews.
Sephardics are second class citizens while the Palestinians are even lower.
Ashkenazi … I stand corrected.
I do not read from a prepared text and have to rely on memory many times.
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