AFSCME’s War on Workers & Taxpayers: A Look Inside The AFSCME Playbook
by LaborUnionReportLast year, when Larry Scanlon, the Director of Political Operations for one of the nation’s largest government unions, the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), stated “the more members coming in, the more dues coming in, the more money we have for politics,” it was symbolic of a system corrupted by union bosses who enrich themselves at the expense of America’s taxpayers.
While AFSCME and other government unions are settling contracts that require members to pay more for their health insurance and retirement, as well as furlough days, to rein in out-of-control budget, with the exception of a few states like Arizona, New Jersey, Ohio and Wisconsin, the government-union power structure is being left almost wholly intact.
In fact, in states like California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and Washington government union bosses have been left largely unrestrained to continue expanding their power at the expense of the taxpayers in those states.
Despite the occasional glimmer of sanity by some union-controlled politicians, by and large, government unions like AFSCME have honed their strategy well as Daniel DiSalvo noted last year in his essay The Trouble With Public Sector Unions:
…economist Richard Freeman has written, “public sector unions can be viewed as using their political power to raise demand for public services, as well as using their bargaining power to fight for higher wages.” The millions spent by public-employee unions on ballot measures in states like California and Oregon, for instance, almost always support the options that would lead to higher taxes and more government spending.
- Related video: Government Unions and the Bankrupting of America
The strategy AFSCME developed to build its power is a well-developed model. AFSCME even detailed it its Building Power in the Workplace: the AFSCME internal organizing manual—a 50-page manual designed to help AFSCME’s local unions strengthen AFSCME and broaden “the fight for change in the workplace.”
AFSCME’s Internal Organizing Manual is very explicit in stating that “internal organizing is not about selling union membership. It is about fundamentally transforming the workplace and the union [p. 3].” Keeping in mind that AFSCME represents “state, county and municipal employees” [in other words, government employees], the transformation of the workplace means transforming the government.
Throughout AFSCME’s Internal Organizing Manual, AFSCME talks a lot about “targeting.” AFSCME encourages the strategic targeting of both workplaces and workers.
On targeting the workplace, strategic targeting is essential to AFSCME:
The success of internal organizing campaigns will be determined by what we do before the campaign even starts. Targeting must be strategic.
Every target chosen for internal organizing should be evaluated against the standard of our ability to achieve real success. If an entire local union or group of locals meets the criteria for success and the resources exist to run the campaign, that’s great. More often than not, we will need to choose narrow targets at first. Although there may be resistance to targeting within the local because some workers may feel left out or ignored, targeting is crucial because resources are scarce. After success is achieved in one area, move on to another. [p. 12]
On targeting workers, AFSCME’s manual gives an example on how far AFSCME will go, including using co-workers, the internet, sign-in sheets at meetings, and even the (legally questionable) taking of information from employer documents to obtain information in order to target workers at home:
Part of the preparation for any campaign is to collect information on the target. The most critical information in any organizing campaign is the list of workers in your target (with home addresses and phone numbers where possible). Employee lists often can be obtained directly from the employer. If address and phone information for non-members cannot be obtained from the employer, one of the first tasks is to get that information from a large majority of people in the targeted group. The AFSCME model recommends getting a minimum of 80 percent of the addresses before proceeding with a campaign.
Building address lists can be done by using the phone book, calling information, using Internet white page services, using commercial data matching services, checking voter registration files, talking to co–workers, collecting informal lists that are available in the worksite (work schedules, time sheets, payroll records, holiday card lists, personal address books), using sign–in sheets at meetings and circulating petitions. [p.13, emphasis added.]
Obviously, employers are not safe from AFSCME’s targeting. After all, if AFSCME only unionizes workers, but the government remains resistant, it does no good. Therefore, AFSCME’s Internal Organizing Manual makes the employer a target as well.
Like the SEIU Contract Campaign Manual exposed earlier this month by the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s labor policy counsel, F. Vincent Vernuccio, AFSCME’s Internal Organizing Manual focuses on putting pressure on the employer, using political and community groups, as well as the press and public opinion against the employer. Again, in AFSCME’s case, the employer is the government–or, rather, the taxpayer.
It is also important to research the employer. We must be willing to look beyond the everyday relationship, and find out what pressure points can be used to win battles in the workplace.
Who holds the power and how can they be pressured? We must understand what factors affect the boss’ ability to meet our demands. What budget problems exist? What political, ideological or economic interests will cause the employer to resist union actions? How will the boss and the workers react to external pressure? What are the political and community groups that can be used to pressure the employer? How can the press and public opinion be used? Internal organizing isn’t just about organizing members — it’s about organizing and out–organizing the boss. [p. 13]
Throughout its Internal Organizing Manual, AFSCME goes on to explain how to recruit committees (Member Action Teams, or MATs) and the traits desired, how to conduct home visits, how to assess workers, as well as the use of group grievances to stir up support.
In organizing drive, both MAT members and stewards should be looking for issues to advance organizing. They should consider the grievance procedure as one of many tools to resolve problems. Stewards should also look for ways to expand individual grievances into issues of broad appeal. [p. 19, emphasis added.]
On house calls, AFSCME provides tips, including on how to dress, catching the workers by surprise, and involve workers’ family members:
- Wear appropriate clothes. Don’t wear clothing that calls attention to you or makes theworker feel uncomfortable. Clothes that are too fancy or too casual can make a bad first impression that is hard to overcome….
- Know what shifts people work and/or if they work other jobs. Visit from the end of the shift until as late as possible. Saturdays and Sundays after church are very good times to house call.
- Don’t call ahead.
- Try to make the visit last 30-40 minutes. Have a clear agenda and goal in mind for each worker you visit.
- Bring a committee person or another worker with you. But don’t put off house calling if a worker can’t accompany you.
- Let the worker do most of the talking. You’re not a salesperson—draw people out with open–ended questions. You are developing a relationship and moving the worker to action….
- Involve a worker’s family members.
- Fill out a house-call report form. You should do this immediately after leaving the house, but drive far enough away so you aren’t sitting out in front filling out a form.
- Only provide literature at the end of the visit, if at all. If the person isn’t home, don’t leave literature and return another time. [p. 22]
Interestingly, unlike other unions that offer money for signatures on union authorization cards, AFSCME discourages the use of signing bonuses [p. 15].
Elsewhere in the manual, AFSCME explains how to move the middle and “persuadable” workers:
In order to build majority support for the union, we must organize around issues that appeal to the undecided and persuadable workers in the “middle.” Organizing campaigns that appeal to the most militant union members will alienate the workers you are targeting. But don’t confuse emphasizing issues that appeal to the center with timidity. By its very nature, worker action is militant. It is a fight for change.[p. 24]
Other sections of AFSCME’s Internal Organizing Manual provide insight on how to plan rallies, create urgency, build community support and “consolidate power.” There are also tools that AFSCME provides in the manual, such as a sample House Call Sheet.
As AFSCME’s Larry Scanlon, stated “the more members coming in, the more dues coming in, the more money we have for politics.“ As long as AFSCME continues to see the government workplace as the means of building its power over taxpayers, the more the public knows about AFSCME’s playbook and how it is being used, the more informed voters will be to AFSCME’s true goals. AFSCME and other government unions are more focused on building their power, and it comes at taxpayers’ expense.
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Right to work legislation nationwide, ECON 101 taught in schools, an understanding that your are overhead, not affordable anymore, PLUS a strong private sector, would go a long way toward alleviating this union entitlement mentality (AFSCAM) from the government worker, prevalent nationwide…
Jimmy Hoffa would be proud.
In the 21st Century, labor unions have only one purpose left to them …
… bringing about global Marxist revolution. Reason enough to oppose them …
Don’t call ahead
&
Involve a worker’s family members.
–Bring it…I dare you to bring that garbage to my front door!
I live in Oregon, radical leftist unionista thugs own this state, they bought it with a "mail in election" in 1993 that changed the state's constitution to only allow "mail in elections", no matter how big or small they are.
They've created quite the little socialist fruitopia up here….
You fill out your ballot(s)(?) (No proof of ID or citizenship required) and mail it in or drop it off at a collection booth where it is later transported to county elections HQ and counted by union members until they achieve the results they desire.
Fair warning America, Senator Ron Wyden and Senator Jeff Merkley want this banana republic method of voting added to federal election law…
As far as I'm concerned the "AFSCME" can come over here and show us "what else" if they actually have the guts.
America belongs to the people, not the thugs.
0bamas civilian army. When the hammer falls, they will be paid with our tax dollars to do thier masters bidding. And I'll bet no matter what they will still receive a paycheck. 0bamas goons have got to be paid.
we need to elect a president to overturn the executive order allowing public sector union in the firstplace.
I'd feel better is all these idiots were with Jimmy.
Cooperative agreements replacing unions–AND
NO government unions–PERIOD!
The Unions were once a noble and valued service to the working man. Now, they are a reprehensible evil intent on destruction.
This is akin to the Muslims who supposedly speak out against Radical Islam. Where are they? Where are the Union members speaking out against “the more members coming in, the more dues coming in, the more money we have for politics”
Where?
Our next president needs to revoke JFK's executive order permitting public sector unions right after completing the Oath of Office.
Slavery was a valued service as well, surprised the racists pigressives haven't coerced more poor minorities to bring it back.
The big takeaway from this is really how structurally organized an operation they are. It’s become clear for too long now that unions care little for taxpayers, and in many cases even their own workforce. You’ve seen all the problems that their previously negotiated contracts have caused in Wisconsin that have led to layoffs (http://bit.ly/qMXRJX).
Ultimately, the only way for the system to change is for taxpayers to do their due diligence and educate themselves as much as possible on unions. Once citizens have as much information on unions as possible, you can only hope that they’ll take that knowledge to make their voices heard and put an end to the unbalanced compensation structure they advocate for (http://bitly.com/hwbXag).
Right to work legislation, passed by all 50 states, would make all this peripheral nonsense academic. Every employee should be allowed to decide if they want to join a union.
It's all about choice. Democrats are always in favor of that? Right…
Ann
The Democrat / Union deathdance (embrace) is killing ALL of US..
Democrats who are very old and remember The Old Days when the DNC was patriotic might consider the emerging call to run a primary candidate against Obama.
I live in a Marxist Labor, pro-jihad, Green city where you'll see more red stars than the stars and strips on the street.
Your party was stolen from you threw the 1960's and now they want the country.
If unions were so needed and sought after, these unions wouldn't need to be making house calls, in what literally translates to "convince or intimidate", to get new members.
Obama Following In Hitler’s Footsteps
July 26, 2011 by Robert Ringer http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-polit...
Is it not profoundly ironic, that a political movement, whose leaders claim it is the Tea Party, conservatives, and Republicans who are belligerent and violent, choose as their symbol, a fist?
Petroglyph,
Here is the proof that you are intellectually dishonest.
"This is akin to the Muslims who supposedly speak out against Radical Islam. Where are they?"
Given that you were just yesterday in a very active conversation with a politically conservative, anti-terror, republican Muslim yesterday who asked you a really tough question you avoided, and then now you are in here repeating – with ZERO basis in fact – "where are the Muslims who speak out against Radical Islam?", shows that you have no desire to find or deal with TRUTH. It further proves you are a bigot. Unfortunately, we have a few bigots like you in the conservative movement we have to fight against, just like I must – as a muslim – fight the Islamists.
I am done talking to you. When you failed to address the peaceful passages in the Quran and you failed to BE HONEST that there ARE muslims speaking out against Islamic radicalism and terror, you disqualified yourself from debate.
At this point you are a walking, tired, and not widely believed talking point.
You need to stay away from the TEA party and any other true conservative movement and stick to the bigots party. We reject people who constantly bash another race or religion or ethnicity. We are interested in seeing Obama weakended and our government returned to its constitutional principles. Which did not include Islam bashers like you.
Find that hard to believe? I will leave you with a few interesting quotes from our FOUNDING FATHERS on Islam. I hope you will find it in your heart to start being as honest about the majority of Muslims and what we ACTUALLY think and believe as I am about the few Muslims who are terrorist idiots that need to be destroyed.
THOMAS JEFFERSON held an IFTAR while president and could read and understand Arabic and read the WHOLE Quran. Not just the passages you pull out of context.
JOHN ADAMS said that Muhammad was one of the great "inquirers after truth."
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN said, "Even if the Mufti of Constantinople were to send a missionary to preach Mohammedanism to us, he would find a pulpit at his service." Tell that one to people who want Mosques not to be built.
You can remind Herman Cain that Thomas Jefferson had Muslim workers.
And you can recall that the FIRST country to recognize the new US was MORROCCO.
And last for now, you may be shocked that the founding fathers included in the Treaty of Tropli with the muslim terrorists of the time:
"The government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Mussulmen [Moslems]."
Not founded on the Christian religion. From the founding fathers? Put that in your pipe and smoke it. And realize this is a secular land where people of ALL religions are welcome if they are willing to support the constitution as I am millions of other American Muslims are.
If you want to understand more of early American thinking on Muslims including the founding fathers, this link is to the Library of Congress and was written under the Bush administration:
http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0205/tolerance.html
We are done as long as you insist on your distorted views. I hope you wise up and stop being a pinhead and cease the bloviating.
Unions stifle growth (except of government jobs).
The botton line is value creation. Unions stifle this. Government expansion stifles this. Without value creation, the economy can't grow. It can't fully recover.
Obama and his Union supporters can stand around and thwart value creation all they want. Look east. Those economies are creating value.
Eventually, we won't be able to recover.
So you claim to be a Muslim. What sect? And what gives you the superiority to decide who belongs to the Tea Party and who doesn't? Yep, you act like a Muslim alright. Bloviating.
I am a Sunni. I am saying as a TEA party organizer and a proud member of the TEA party that we will reject bigots like Petroglyph. All that does is give credence to the left's narrative about our conservative movement and will cause us to be weakened. We need to focus on the economic issues and keep away people who openly associate with the TEA party and put forth other agendas.
There are Muslims that bloviate and Muslims who don't. If you are making a general statement that all Muslims bloviate, then you are a bigot too. If you are just saying that I am bloviating, then you are not. Saying that all Muslims bloviate is just like saying all blacks are uneducated or any all XXXXX have negative characteristic YYYYY. If you say that you are a bigot by definition.
Conservatives are tolerant of other viewpoints unlike liberals and are willing to accept people from all backgrounds who support the constitution and want to see limited government.
Unionism is like a curable cancer…just needs immediate surgery and radiation to remove the antiAmerican threat it has become….all of them…out.
Tell us about naskh, (the doctrine of abrogation) "reaganmuslim." Tell us about the supersession of the Meccan, "peaceful" verses by the militant Medinan verses. Then tell us about Muhammad's treatment of the Quraysh, about Islam's attitude toward dhimmis, and about its insistence that no Muslim should ever be under the authority of a non-Muslim. Perhaps after that we'll get to the part about the death penalty for blasphemy, heresy, and apostasy. Or maybe the way Islam treats women and homosexuals. Or maybe Islam's hatred of the Jews.
Let's start there. There'll be time for our other questions later.
You sound like you have been fully indoctrinated by terrorists. Are you arguing that as a Muslims I cannot be peaceful? Or love Jews?
Your many posints are the points of terrorists, and not your average muslim. You have been duped by people wanting to make a buck off of you to believe these things are either widespread or somehow special to Islam.
I will deal with a few of your too many points for a coherent conversation.
"Then tell us about Muhammad's treatment of the Quraysh"
Right after you explain King David's treatment of non Jews.
"About Islam's attitude toward dhimmis"
This was a shameful thing practiced by a few rulers in some places. It is not suportable by the Quran and is not practiced any more.
"its insistence that no Muslim should ever be under the authority of a non-Muslim."
That is a myth.
" Perhaps after that we'll get to the part about the death penalty for blasphemy, heresy, and apostasy."
None of those things are allowed in Islam. You are only allowed the death Penalty for murder and treason. I assume you are ready to post the equivalent passages from the bible about how those things should be punished.
" Or maybe the way Islam treats women and homosexuals."
Islam is not special in this. Do you really want to justofy the bibles passages on women and homosexuals.
" Or maybe Islam's hatred of the Jews. "
There is no such thing. Jews are our fellow people of the book. They are the chosen people and blessed by the lord to go to heaven along with Christians and Muslims. The prophet married a Jew. Negative passages about Jews in the Quran are – in context – about very specific and narrow Jews in those circumstances. Not all Jews. All passages referring to Jews as a general group are positive.
Abbrogation is not allowed.
Listen fporretto. I have had these debates hundreds of times. Mostly with extremist muslims who think like you. I know that very few (too many of course) Muslims think like you and the terrorists do.
Are you really going to sit here and try to convince me that I MUST think like a terrorist to be a good Muslim? That my peaceful and loving view of Islam is just "wrong". Why would you do that? What is the point in trying to shout down the peaceful American muslims amongst you who love America and respect Christianity. What will you gain by attacking me and my beliefs? Think about it.
Wait a minute. Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were Sunni, not good company, yet you are here blasting away at Petroglyph belonging to the Tea Party movement. As a Muslim you claim, don't you see the hypocrisy and as you apply the word bigot?
Either you are or not a Muslim — there is NO compromise without apostasy — and you should well know it. Game is up reaganmuslim. Taqiyya won't work here if that's your goal.
Let me be clearer since you don't know me. I know there are bad muslims who currently and historically have done terrible things. Those who have are a minority. In some cases a too large minority but nonetheless not representative of most muslims.
These Muslims must be defeated. You are NEVER going to get rid of Islam. There are almost 2 billion of us. And the nonsensical stuff I see posted by American attackers of Islam do nothing to help us win the battle against extremists.
The best attacker of these extremists is people like me. People who understand Islam intimately and live every day as a Muslim. I travel the world and talk to Muslims of all sorts. I once had a debate with Hezbollah fighters in Beirut.
You WANT me on your side. I am the most effective tool you have against the bad guys. When you attack my faith, you make me waste time on you instead of focusing on them.
What they do is ACTUALLY not supported in Islam and has been rejected by every mainstream Muslim group no matter what sect (except wahhabis). You can argue all this with me, but you are mainly ignorant of Islam and there is no point in convincing me otherwise.
I am out there every day responding to the hateful speeches of some Imams and the occasional idiotic FATWA from some self-styled scholar like a bin Laden.
I will not deny to you or justify the bad behaviour that Muslims have done or are doing today. They are wrong and often evil people. They shame my faith and it is my Jihad to defeat the muslim terrorists.
Yes they were. Bin Laden was a Wahabbi Sunni. A group I work against all the time. But Sunni's are the overwhelming majority of Muslims. Both Saddam and bin Laden overwhlemingly have killed Sunni Muslims. I am in the same company as the King of Jordan. I am in the same company as Cat Stevens. I am in the same company as millions of famous and peaceful Sunni Muslims.
I don't see the hypocrisy. I fight against terrorist Sunnis (and Shia) as a Sunni. I fight against bigotry as an American.
I am a Muslim. I am not an apostate. People are free to be apostates. The Quran makes that clear. I am sure you are familiar with the many passages in the Quran that allow people to be apostates or chose their religious beliefs freely. For example, tell me how I am supposed to interpret this verse:
“So if they dispute with you, say ‘I have submitted my whole self to God, and so have those who follow me.’ And say to the People of the Book and to the unlearned: ‘Do you also submit yourselves?’ If they do, then they are on right guidance. But if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message. And in God’s sight are all of His servants.” (Quran 3:20)
When I see people refer to Taqiyya I have yet to meet one that is not a bigot. This is their ultimate defense against the facts I present. It matters not to them that the version of Taqiyya they refer to was only first described at all in the 19th century and that the common understanding of Taqiyya is this:
You can lie only to save your life if threatened with immediate death.
I am hardly in that position on a Big site.
My formerly intense dislike of Labor Unions has morphed into outright HATRED. I have had two union jobs in my life. Both of them sucked. Big Labor does not stand for Liberty. Big Labor stands for shut-up-and-do-as-you're-told. Group-think unionbots are shriveling Souls whose lives are rotten at the core. BigLaborBigGovernment is a running sore of pus-infection on the Body Politic of the U.S.A. Here is my take of what the real juice is now: Labor unions in America are Marxist fronts and Marxism is Class Warfare. Obama is Marxism's golden Champion in America. AFLCIO President Richard Trumka is Obama's Marxist Dictator King. Remove Richard Trumka from the White House in 2012.
This man here brother is a phucking psychopath. He has lost ALL arguments and all he does is lie. But then again, that is what is "commanded" of them.
Public employee unions (including AFT, NEA, AFSCME, and others) should be illegal. They are being financed with tax payer funds.__Where do we live? In a banana republic?__I am afraid we have become a banana republic, alright!
You are obfuscating the issue. According to Islamic scholars and clerics many of the earlier suras of the Koran are superseded in part while carefully applying varying standards of measure, designed to make the results match the ideology.
Moreover, Muslims publicly state that they make war on the infidel in the name of Allah, in order to impose Islamic law on the entire world. They do this because their scripture requires it — it is written down quite clearly in the Koran, the hadith, and the sunna — and all four major schools of Sunni Islamic law, as well as Shi’ite doctrine, all of which describe violent jihad as a duty for all Muslims.
Also, the command to subjugate the infidel through violence is not extremist. It’s not a fringe doctrine. Islam has not been perverted or hijacked by those who practice violent jihad. Violence lies at the very core of Islamic doctrine, and Islam itself has told us that repeatedly.
Of course, just as with any religion there will be those who are perhaps not as devout towards practicing the requisite goals of Islam and lacking the zeal to carry out violence. According to the Koran they still have their place in the Islamic hereafter, but not the same as the martyr. So you must know this clearly. Why are you playing such games here?
Yeah, belatedly I'm realizing it now. But it infuriates me for someone attempting to pawn off such nonsense and using the Tea Party movement as credibility. What it amounts to is soiling the Tea Party, which invokes my ire. Never seen this one before but I'm done. Thanks.
That is his goal.
He threatened to call the cops on me if I were to attend a Tea Party event. LMFAO.
He fails to understand that, in here, you never know who you are talking to……
I am not obfuscating. You lick only CERTAIN scholars that support your position and ignore the others. If you are such an expert on Islam, tell me which scholars DO NOT agree that the verse I quote is abrogated. There are some figures that historically supported your position, but they were wrong. Just like the Supreme Court can be wrong and different courts can have different opinions, so is it true in Islamic scholars. They do not all agree with what you say and it is ONLY A MINORITY throughout history who have argued for abrogation.
And you claim to know Islam….
.00001 percent of Muslims publically state they make war on the infidel in the name of Allah. What about the other 99.999+ percent of us?
There is no more violence in the Quran than in the Bible. If you think it is clear in the Quran than it is just as clear in the bible. In fact Christian rulers have used the bible to justify violence.
I dare you to explain how I must understand this verse without your abrogation nonsense. If you insist on abrogation than use the words IN THE QURAN to show me that a part of it can be abrogated. Don't rely on weak Hadith. If you even understand what that means. Use the Quran itself. How can I ignore certain words in the Quran?
“So if they dispute with you, say ‘I have submitted my whole self to God, and so have those who follow me.’ And say to the People of the Book and to the unlearned: ‘Do you also submit yourselves?’ If they do, then they are on right guidance. But if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message. And in God’s sight are all of His servants.” (Quran 3:20)
If you will not answer this, then you are as intellectually dishonest as Petroglyph and have certainly proven you are a bigot,
You are then also COMPLETELY UNWELCOME in the TEA party. We have had enough of bigots glomming onto a cause based on the constitution. You are embarrassing the TEA party and we reject you. We have kicked others of you out and we will kick you out if you publicly associate with both the TEA party and bigotry.
All you are doing is giving ammunition to the leftist marxist fools who want to destroy our country. Interestingly you are ACTING like a marxist with your attitude towards religion. I suppose you want to ban all religions that have a violent passage in their book? In other words all of them?
The good news is that you are an extremist minority and the majority of us conservatives are taking our country back from both the leftists and our party and movement back from the bigots.
Do not ever show up at a TEA party event.
If you will not address my verse and how I should interpret it, you will be ignored as well.
Funny how when I post on Big peace my reputation goes down and when I post on big government it goes up. There are so many bigots frequenting there, but apparently they are outweighed here.
It restores my faith in the conservative movement that bigotry is still rejected despite the campaign by these people to spread the militant extremist version of Islam as the only true form.
Don't they see they are trying to convince me – as a muslim – that I MUST be a terrorist!? What a bunch of pro-terrorism wackjobs. I hope homeland security is keeping an eye on them as they go around encouraging Muslims to be terrorists.
Wow, you went totally ballistic on me. That's funny. Dude you need emergency mental evaluation and treatment. Seriously.
/trollzalot
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