SEIU’s Manifesto? Stephen Lerner Doubles Down on Crippling America’s Economic System
by LaborUnionReportLast week, The Blaze posted two audio recordings of Stephen Lerner, an SEIU boss who was lecturing an audience on how to bring down the American economy. While Lerner had reportedly been fired from the SEIU last year, it turns out that that may not have been the case.
During the audio, Lerner was introduced as being “of SEIU.” Moreover, former ACORN founder, Chief Organizer of ACORN, and all-around community organizing SEIU offical, Wade Rathke stated Friday on his blog:
Lerner has not been “fired” by SEIU as they report. He was placed on paid leave last fall to think through his contribution to the union, but was certainly present at the recent international executive board meeting. He’s in a curious position no doubt, but it’s something like being an “injured reserve” in the NFL and waiting for the team to find a place to bring him back on the roster.
Then, just to affirm that Lerner is still affiliated with the SEIU is Lerner’s bio on a piece posted this afternoon which reads:
Stephen Lerner serves on the Service Employees International Union’s International Executive Board and is the architect of the Justice for Janitors campaign. Lerner is a frequent contributor on national television and radio programs and has published numerous articles charting a path for a 21st-century labor movement.
So, why is this important?
Because, as an official still with the SEIU, Steven Lerner did something that most people caught in advocating the bringing down of the American economy would not do…Stephen Lerner doubled down.
In an on line piece posted by Lerner entitled This Can Be Our Moment, Lerner further elaborates on his plan to ‘transform’ America’s economy. After railing against the Left’s usual boogeymen (Wall St., the Koch Brothers, greedy CEOs, Scott Walker, John Kasich, Glenn Beck “and others”), Lerner pitches into his vision of the future.
Though Lerner did not name an individual company to target as he did last week (JP Morgan), his broad vision calls for the following:
- Using political and economic power to ‘renegotiate’ with Wall Street and raise revenue for cities and states
- Getting governments to refuse to do business with banks that ‘refuse to pay their fair share’
- Getting homeowners and students to engage in a ‘loan’ strike (refusing to pay their loans)
- Calling on government-sector union members to vote to strike
- Using the private-sector union movement to politicize and transform narrow bargaining “into a vehicle to make unions relevant again”
First, Lerner paints with a broad brush:
It doesn’t have to be this way. This can be our moment. The fragility of an unstable boom-and-bust economy and growing economic inequality create unique opportunities to stoke simmering discontent into concrete, concerted direct action to challenge corporate extremism. From Wisconsin, where hundreds of thousands of workers, students, clergy and others have rallied, to cities around the country where average Americans are occupying Wall Street banks to protest revenue shortfalls, the poisonous deals banks have with cities and states, and foreclosures, a movement is being born that challenges corporate dominance and is inspired by a vision of a better and more just world.
Then Lerner dives in (in full context, with emphasis added):
But in order to make this vision reality, we need to go on offense and make Wall Street pay for the trillions it stole from us. Wall Street is bankrupting cities, states, homeowners, and students with trillions in unfair debt, even after the big banks received $17 trillion in bailouts and backstops after crashing the economy. We can use our political and economic power to renegotiate our relationship with Wall Street to keep millions of people in their homes, and raise revenue for cities and states to protect jobs and critical services:
Here’s how Lerner proposes to do it…
The Potential Power of Government—Don’t Do Business with Bandit Banks: Wall Street does trillions in business with all levels of government. Let’s leverage that money by getting governments to refuse to do business with banks that don’t pay their fair share in taxes, won’t renegotiate high-cost deals that are bankrupting taxpayers with astronomical interest rates, and refuse to stop foreclosures by reducing mortgage principals.
The Potential Power of Homeowners and Students—Don’t Pay Unfair Debt: Growing numbers of homeowners and students cannot afford to pay back their loans. If they organized a loan strike — refusing to pay their mortgages and student loans unless banks agreed to negotiate lower rates — it would threaten CEO bonuses and bottom lines of the banks. When corporations are in trouble they renegotiate their debt all the time so they can get on their feet again. Homeowners, students and local government need that same deal.
The Potential Power of Public Employee Unions—Bargaining to Protect Public Dollars: Public employee unions so far have been on the defensive, trying to stop cuts and concessions. Nurses, teachers, firefighters and others can go on the offensive by putting concrete proposals on the table that would save billions like demanding governments get out of the toxic interest rate swaps that are costing taxpayers at least $1.8 billion a year nationally, or making California renegotiate old loans to conform to the new law on universal credit ratings, which would save $21 billion. Imagine teachers, nurses, firefighters and police voting to strike in order to make the city or state use its power to protect taxpayers and public services while helping to stop foreclosures and stabilize the housing market and tax base.
The Potential Power of Private-Sector Unions—Bargaining for the Greater Good: Collective bargaining can’t only be about improving wages and grievance procedures for union members — it must become a tool for fixing broken industries, creating jobs and revitalizing communities, creating economic opportunity, and altering business practices that exploit communities and pollute the environment. Historically, unions have narrowed what we fight for in moments of weakness. But unions, collective bargaining, and organizing make less and less sense the more we narrow the scope of what we are trying to achieve. By expanding what we’re mobilizing for, unions can politicize and transform narrow bargaining into a vehicle to make unions relevant again and rebuild the middle class.
Though it is certainly debatable whether or not Lerner’s plan could be pulled off, Lerner should not be discounted either. After all, Lerner’s former boss brought you ObamaCare.
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Lerner is just another un-American pinko commie traitor.
Didn't we use to hang traitors?………………………………….we need to start again.
Lerner/Lenin what's the difference?
Execute for treason. Then get Reid, Pelosi, Holder, and both adult Obamas and repeat. Throw Soros in with the UN fans for good measure.
I could not have said it better.
This is criminal, it is nothing short of terrorism. He needs to be investigated, tried and put in Lompoc where he can mingle with Bubba Jones and Knuckles Garducci. Or, if the American people would prefer, I can put him to work in one of my mines for free………………
Well, technically they don't consider it treason because they consider themselves world citizens, not American citizens.
In which case, they should all go live at the UN, but that's a different problem.
Y'all can bet your last dollar that if a Tea Party supporter had said all this, there would be a trail for treason! But since it's just another lefty douche, move along, nothin' to see here… Disgusting.
Where is the new civility? I want my era of new civility! I was promised new civility! And all I got was this purple-shirted thug. Why is his shirt purple, anyway? What kind of grown man walks around in a purple t-shirt? Have you no shame? No dignity? No fashion sense?
"Don't Pay Unfair Debt"
All debt is unfair to committed LEFTISTS. They should have everything gifted to them in their vision of utopia…
"…lower rates" ……….. How could "rates" be lower, unless they go to negative rates…
Who wrote this and what planet were they on?
"altering business practices that exploit communities, and pollute the environment."
Translation: Shut down all commerce and become a multitude of tribes of hunter – gatherers… Peace man!
Happy Trails!
; )
AMEN, BROTHER!
Hit 'em high, hit 'em low.
SEIU's Lerner plots to cripple the US economy. Simultaneously, SEIU ally Obama is pushing again to discard tax deductions on charitable donations. He argues it is on behalf of fiscal responsibility. Reaallly? …Give us a break. What it would accomplish, as our economic problems mount, would be to increase the social divide between classes, increase hardship on the poor, which would increase social discontent and cement reliance on big government handouts.
What an SEIU tag team these two make.
What does this moron think? If America goes broke, somehow SEIU will still be standing? Is he this retarded?
No offense to those who suffer from mental retardation, but let's call a spade a spade.
This is interesting, Schmuckie Schumer, unplugged.
By: Susan Ferrechio 03/29/11 1:42 PM
Chief Congressional Correspondent Follow us @Examinerpolitic
Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., a member of the Democratic Senate leadership, got on a conference call with reporters Tuesday morning without realizing the reporters were already listening in. Schumer thought he was on a private line with four Democratic senators who were to talk with reporters about the current budget stalemate.
Schumer instructed the group, made up of Sens. Barbara Boxer of California, Tom Carper of Delaware, Ben Cardin of Maryland and Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, to tell reporters that the GOP is refusing to negotiate.
He told the group to make sure they label the GOP spending cuts as "extreme."
"I always use extreme, Schumer said. "That is what the caucus instructed me to use."
Someone must have finally told Schumer that the media were listening and he stopped talking midsentence.
Here's a bit more of what he said about House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, according to my notes.
"The main thrust is basically that we want to negotiate and we want to come up with a compromise but the Tea Party is pulling Boehner too far over to the right and so far over that there is no more fruitful negotiations," Schumer said on the call. "The only way we can avoid a shutdown is for Boehner to come up with a reasonable compromise and not just listen to what the Tea Party wants. "
Schumer described Boehner as "in a box," over the budget negotiations.
The four senators came on the call after Schumer abruptly went silent and followed Schumer's script closely.
Coordinating the message is common in both parties, but it's uncommon for reporters to actually hear them rehearsing.
Every now and then the mask comes off a little bit.
They spend and spend, trillions upon trillions.
The pathetic cuts proposed by the GOP number in the billions are of course, extreme.
I vote for extreme. Cut! Cut again! Defund entire departments and fiefdoms!
DOA, DOE, IRS, PBS, Cut them all across the board! This is our money, not Schumers money! It's all gone!
Is there anyone more despicable than Schumer?
"Imagine teachers, nurses, firefighters and police voting" to put you in front of a firing squad.
You know, that made me smile…
Got Rope?
Hey, I wear a purple button down sometimes, but it don't say SEIU on it.
Here is the real "stimulus" –
Cripple the corruption.
Exterminate the corrupt.
Step 1: Bring down the system
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit!
A thumbs down to the stupid voters that didn't see through this faker:
“We live in the most successful country in history; now let’s change it.” —Barack Obama
Get paid just to figure out how to screw the USA wile in the USA. Time to put a bullet right between his eyes and the others that are trying to bring AMERICA down. TREASON is a killable offense. Time to get them and stop the plans that they made. Before it's too late…
Too harsh ?
If they bring down this country whats it going too mean for your wife, kids and family's the stakes are getting too high to do nothing…
At the very lease take names, their addresses keep your eyes on them… And most importantly be READY…
The anger is what I don't understand.
The disillusion, I get. It's almost comical for this man to believe that by doing all that he plans, he could somehow, in the end, stabilize the economy so we have no more booms and busts.
When I hear these people say things like this (no more booms and busts) it makes it clear that not only do they not understand economics, bu they don't understand systems in general. The notion that a system as complex as the economy can be so perfectly balanced and constraints so controlled that perfect flow would ensue and we would never experience lag…..or booms and busts….is purely delusional. Everything would have to be timed perfectly. Every possible inter-reaction between all variables (and what, would it be fair to say that there are MILLIONS in the global economy?) would have to be identified and planned for….
Pure hogwash designed to inspire the unthinking minds of a disgruntled demographic that never bothered to read a book.
This guy would be hilarious if he weren't so dangerous. I could go through his whole screed and tear it apart, as Glenn has been doing but, I'll note just two idiotic statements. "Challenge corporate extremism" what the hell is that? It's extreme that they give us all jobs? Such a position has to be taken by a jerk without a leg to stand on. And "refuse to do business with banks that don’t pay their fair share in taxes,"! Is that right? Just banks or anyone that doesn't pay taxes? Does that also apply to General Electric, Zero's fair haired favorite corporation? These clowns just don't recognize irony when it stares them right in the kisser! Speaking of Beck, killer show today!!!
Exactly. Nicely said.
Such God-denying people are never content with what they have
or who they are; their greed drives them relentlessly.
They plunder everything
but they can't hold on to any of it.
Just when they think they have it all, disaster strikes;
they're served up a plate full of misery.
When they've filled their bellies with that,
God gives them a taste of his anger,
and they get to chew on that for a while.
As they run for their lives from one disaster,
they run smack into another.
Maybe the Weiner, perhaps Waters, Reid definately, Durbin fits in, Jackson Lee (oh, wait, she's just stupid)….Shall I go on?
This just goes to prove that they know that they have nothing or no one to fear. They KNOW that they have the administrations blessing so they are going to continue on with their plans and no one will do a d*mn thing about it.
The word 'extortion' kept popping up in my mind.
The communists ALWAYS have a plan for bringing down governments, their problem is that they NEVER know what to do next.
None taken, Syvyn. What you are missing is that he doesn't care if the union goes down the tubes too. He thinks he'll be tapped by the leaders that come out of the rubble for his own fiefdom. Unfortunately, the new leaders that emerge will not be lefties. Instead, they will be like us and a different kind of "tapping" is in store for him. Call me psychic.
True. They can only deliver on one half of the 'no more booms or busts' promise.
And, it's not the good half.
You can use the old oak tree out back……………….. BBQ afterwards!
"He was placed on paid leave last fall to think through his contribution to the union"
What the heck does that mean? So, I went his blog from the link in the article and read it. Nope, still don't know what that means. Then I saw there was only two comments, so I read them, expecting retard union crap.. I laughed my butt off…only two comments and they weren't nice to the goons. HA!
If Chuck the Schmuck Schumer ever gives you advice, DO THE OPPOSITE!
Schumer doesn't want to help republicans, he only wants to help HIMSELF!
Unions are a squeaky wheel and nothing more. And it is their fault it is squeaky. Nobody will pay $22.00 an hour with full benefits to grease a wheel.
What I don't get is that, if it's true, how does one get paid leave to think about ones position with the organization one works for. Do regular union members get afforded this luxury? Do they know they pay for it? The "explanation" just prompts more questions. They really don't think things through. Am I right?
my only question is: "Is there any way we can bury these fu@%#^$ (forgive the rhetoric)????
That these were the darkest days for our democracy.
And this is why; never have we been so close to losing the fundamental stability and meaning of america itself.
In those days of the future, we will be judged as cowards and fools if we do nothing to stop these madmen.
LOL Trh! Reminds me of a story way back in the 80's when a beer company union in Toronto went on strike and folks found out the guy who runs the returned bottle washing machine got, oddly, $22.00 an hour. Think of it, the 80's 22 bucks an hour! The strike didn't last long. They didn't get a raise.
Wheres the F.B.I.? I thought it is against the law to try and overthrow the U.S. government. Obummer will put in place a F.B.I. director of the same ilk as Eric Holder, if not already [structures in place]. How does this regime get a free pass…. without being arrested for sedition? Alll these communist comming out now, have been green lighted by the D.O.J. and W/ house.
All this and not one word………..not one word from our tratiorous 'watch dogs'. Yeah the MSM, has long since totally abdicated it's responsibilities to the American people…..
Our media is now under the total control of the Soros New World Order plot to tear down the American way of life.
As the spooky dude himself said…."The United Sates is the final obstacle to a New World Order"….
Yeah….won't that be nice?
We need a preemptive strike to remove all government employees unions. If people want to quit, let them, but no more employees with the government should be allowed to unionize. Current union members should be harassed and screwed with until they quit. Transfer everybody in a government union to the agency furthest from them, 2 or 3 hours or bus and train transfers. Make life for them as miserable as they are planning to make it for us. DO IT NOW.
If that doesn't work, community members should find where the union members live, and, once a week, beat them senseless until they quit. These thugs do not respond to anything but violence. They are prepared to use it, we must be ready, also.
Ron Reale
realetybytes.com
Very well said, Joseph.
And actually more and more Americans should be waking up to this. It's basic common sense (I know, it's rare nowadays). It's your kind of thinking that turned me into a conservatarian – I just took an issue and followed it all the way to its logical conclusion.
I finally concluded that there was no way in hell that any government on this planet could ever solve every single "what if" problem my brain could come up with. And to get anywhere near close to solving them would mean, well, totalitarianism.
It's really that simple – you either live with a boot on your neck but with some fantasy of "economic security" or you deal with the fact that, hey, life is kind of like a roller coaster ride – ups and downs, ins and outs. You just learn to prepare for those things and you might skate through. But sometimes you won't. You just dust yourself off and keep going.
What the Left has done is penetrated people's deepest fears of instability and bad times and used it to convince them that the gov't can keep any of that from happening if you just give them more and more power.
Steven Lerner. He look familiar. Sure enough, found his pics next to 2 different words entries in the dictionary:
Weasel and Son of Lucifer.
I volunteer for the "hunter" role, I'll take my big brother deus with me.
2) Control the masses.
I can't make any sense out of that statement. But, I don't think like a union thug either. Maybe they are going to keep paying him IF he does some dirty illegal stuff that could get him arrested or jailed ??. I don't know..it's weird.
A little off topic, but it does relate to why these goons are getting so desperate.
The latest poll from Journaltimes.com on Wisconsin's union kerfuffle:
585,480 Votes as of today 3-29-2011
For Walker = 343,555 votes = 58.68%
Against Walker = 241,925 votes = 41.33 %
You can only vote once in the poll.
wtf: are you people insane? A SEIU "official" bringing down the US government? He leads janitors for god sake. Our $10/hr janitors are going to do America in. Get real here people. Renegotiate with Wall Street: you betcha, the banksters should be in jail not making loans. Old school: fired and heads on pikes. Getting governments to refuse to do business with banks that refuse to pay their fair share. Hell yea. How about ole GE: made 5 Billion, paid no taxes. Make unions relevant again, yep. Someone's got to stop the banksters and helicopter Ben from throwing money at the rich and help offset the Republican tax cuts for the wealthy and elimination of inheritance taxes.
Come on, were talking janitors here people. This is not Al queda. I mean, what ails you people?
Mr. Lerner has made two visits to the White House, according to previous articles.
The Friends Of Obama aren't exactly the God Bless America types.
Actually, it's probably plausable deniability. Like when he does get into hot water they can say, "hey, he's not with us!"
Like, who do you think you are? Someone wants to join a union who are you to even suggest beating someone senseless for practicing their Constitutional rights to free assembly. A man wants to join a union it is his business, not yours.
Ain't nobody overthrowing the US government. What, you're afraid of janitors running amok with mops? Take your meds and calm down.
The barbarians have arrived at the gates. If they succeed in doing this, this country will erupt in civil war.
Are you serious? SEIU leads janitors. Terrorism? Only terrorist is you calling of prison for a man exercising his Constitutional rights.
Come on. SEIU cripples US economy. What, with mops? A procession of janitors attacking white virgins? Your economic problems stems from the banksters, the FED, and an inability to control debt. Your janitors did not do you in.
From the "Book of Common Prayer" (edited, and with apologies)
"In sure and certain hope of the resurrection to eternal life through our Lord Jesus Christ, we commend to Almighty God our brother <Lerner> and we commit his body to the ground; earth to earth; ashes to ashes, dust to dust. The Lord bless him and keep him…"
And may the Lord "keep" all of his kin'… And leave us in peace and prosperity with each other through honest and voluntary dealings with one another…
Amen…
Give me a break. What about the middle class losing their pensions and 401K's if Lerner succeeds in crippling the economy? I guess that's okay with you.
What part of treason and sedition confuses you? We really want to know. If I started advocating that every conservative stop paying taxes for one reason or another how would gov't respond?
Might want to pull up your big girl panties if you want to talk with adults there sparky.
Conspiring to collapse the financial institution of this Country is defined as "Domestic Terrorism". Want to challenge that?
I'm your Huckleberry…….
I thought that we had a special resort in Gauntanoma for people like this.
Yep, that is the conclusion I keeping coming up with. Open season on elite lefties. Really sneaky beasts but they strut around indignantly just before open season. They run real fast after they make a god awful mess of everything so use a good lead when you take a bead on them!
Not to be a pr*ck, but we are SUPPOSED to live in a Republic… "Democracy" is such a dirty word…
And please capitalize America…
Agreed otherwise…
Howdy Sisty,
What it means is that he was too "radioactive" for an "official association"… But then, you knew that…
leftism doesn't offer solutions. it is a simple ideology. pick at difficult situations. attack complex systems. and propose a vision (not a tangible or implementable solution) that promises to improve things for folks (folks, i might add, who in the greater scheme of things, don't really have things all that bad).
and, more pointedly, as every Communist state has shown us….leftism leads to stagnation. The motivation to innovate, excel and improve must be internal to the individual to reach high levels. In communism, the motivation is external and therefore cannot (on a grand scale) ultimately (over time) reach the levels necessary.
Simply put: the promise of (and the methods used to enforce the promise of) equality destroys natural selection. Which brings us all down.
Broad Vision? More like drunk goggles.
* Using political and economic power to ‘renegotiate’ with Wall Street and raise revenue for cities and states
– That power is eroding fast. Wall Street should know better than to negotiate with terrorists!
* Getting governments to refuse to do business with banks that ‘refuse to pay their fair share’
– If you haven't noticed, both the GOP and Dems are in bed with the banks.
* Getting homeowners and students to engage in a ‘loan’ strike (refusing to pay their loans)
– Yeah, right. They won't reach critical mass. Cutting off your nose to spite your face anyone?
* Calling on government-sector union members to vote to strike
– If it does, good. People might wake up and find they don't need all the big government
* Using the private-sector union movement to politicize and transform narrow bargaining “into a vehicle to make unions relevant again”
– That ship already sailed with the jobs that went overseas. What private sector union movement?
Yes …he should be the canary.
LOL! And don't forget windage, Hadit!
I agree with Lerner. A true Jeffersonian at heart must be on the side of Lerner too! Jefferson and Madison disapproved of the stock market and of course Hamilton had all the praise for it. Here is a good article of the Buttonwood Agreement which turned into the NYSE.
http://www.advisorone.com/article/founding-father...
In a time when millionaires, billionaires, and governments reign supreme in CONTROLLING the markets, these markets HAVE NOTHING TO DO with the "FREE MARKET" and every bit to do with controlling the masses. I do think it is time to destroy this monster, just like it is time to destroy the Federal Reserve.
We all should support Lerner, and I am a strict constructionist. The stock market "game" has players from the lower middle class to billionaires and even government entities. Who do you think writes the rules of the game? The joe shmoe working paycheck to paycheck or the multi-millionaire or billionaire???
Do you really want to be on Hamilton's side????
He can hold the fuse.
Picky, picky Galt!
Janitors, plus large numbers of gov't employees, and a big friend in the Oval Office. That's why they can get away with things that would get anyone else in jail, like beating people up or protesting at peoples' homes and terrorizing their children.
Uh no John, Real was talking about civil service unions and they should never be allowed to unionize! And, frankly, it is my "business"!
That spot next to "weasel" must be damn full, Whats! A whole page of photos!
You know, it's so simple, I am always astounded that more and more people don't understand all that.
You really don't have a clue as to what's going on, do you? With a union are you?
Who do they think they are, threatening violence as they have, physical violence, unless we give in to their extortion? Or do you think that when their leader says,”if we can't convince them with the power of persuasion, we will convince them with the persuasion of power”. Who is threatening whom? They go to rallies and beat pople that don't agree with them, who do they think they are?If they want to join a private union, fine, have at it…but even the liberal icon FDR and Meany, the founder of the AFL-CIO , said that government workers SHOULD NOT have the right to unionize, because even they, the biggest socialists you can find, knew that it would lead to extortion of the people. It is the one thing FDR was right about. These union thugs can fight with private industry, but you think they have the right to destroy the country? Really?I'll die fighting them in the streets before I let that happen. Most Americans will. I guess you'll let it happen, or help them do it.See ya in the street!Ron Realerealetybytes@yahoo.comhttp://realetybytes.com—
I voted in that poll 14 times (against Walker). And I'm deceased.
Trumpka's doing his best but, Lerner's actually right, private sector unions became irrelevent when government took over work rules, not ignoring, of course, that the jobs went overseas, like you say.
Lerner's utopia is basically an ant colony.
Yes …actually Weasel has about 10 pages of photos. Son of Lucifer, only 4 (Al Qaeda & other terrorist groups not included).
A lot of what you say is true, however, we have to work with what we have at this moment and the way to tame this monster is to vote for people of character who won't back down when the real tough decisions need to made. We all know that will be real soon! And I'm not talking whether or not to invade Libya, that's Zero's current diversion. The Fed must be opened, examined and destroyed if need be!
Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than all the other isms combined.
What the leftists have done is develope what is "Soft Terrorism" … "Soft Sabotage" …but the damage is tangible! VERY real.
It counts on the news media failing to define it for Americans..and they will! The MSM will play along with DNC office holders like: What terrorism? What sabotage?
We got DNC office holders in contempt of the Tea Party–Americans–and kook Schumer trying to teach US "a lesson!"
We're suposed to stand back! Allow the Sabotage and "soft" terrorism to continue.
There is some legal master minding and letter of the law taking place WITH contempt for the law. The street thugs are manipulated by very sharp, well funded legal experts!
Schumer! Terrorism and sabotage is not soft. Activist judges are pouting themselves like never before! A bigger, stronger more vibrant Tea Party is what you better count on! And we are NOT going to forget about the savings and loan disaster you helped cause! We are on to you!
I went 'round and 'round with him for a while. He's a true believer. I told him I have utter contempt for unions, and he concluded that I obviously must be a union supporter. In another context, he's the type who sees Jesus' face in tortillas and grilled cheese sandwiches. Don't bother talking sense; it's like water off a ducks back.
Your rhetoric is forgiven, Steve. You didn't see my comment about Tea Party Flying Squads, obviously. That might be a solution
Well, I cannot support in any way beating people up or terrorizing their children. So to the extent that such happened I do not support the SEIU union official that was the target of the article in question. To the extend that it did not happen I most certainly do support that official.
LOL! Jesus' face in tortillas! I think I'm beginning to like you Kent! (in a good way, now!) Oh, I see he just answered Knuckles. Yep, I understand what you say by round and round. What a waste of hard drive!
well, there is a leper colony in Hawaii…
And yet, they just don't seem to get it! Clowns!
Lerner is NOT a janitor. What's wrong with YOU? Besides it only took one paper hanger to destroy freedom in Germany. Don't you read?
Hi. Saw your responses re: Israel a few days ago. I had no issue with your comments so I did not respond. Maybe next time.Civil service unions are problematic I readily admit. While I tend to support them, I also see the problem with them. But please, SEIU. we're talking janitors here. Come on. No way are janitors, hotel room cleaners, and casino workers a threat to America. What business are we talking about here?John
Yet, according to johnmkelly1, he's a nobody that has no sway or holds no company of importance…just janitors. His bio states he was an architect of the campaign Justice for Janitors, nothing about leading them in any administrative role. His position is loftier than that. I'm concerned if a man such as this has visits to the WH. Come to think of it, I haven't heard any names of visitors to the WH I'm not concerned about… Even the Jonas Brothers raise some serious questions. har
How do I explain this to my daughter? That stories like this are what fuel my newfound obsession with politics? That our times together of laughing our asses off at funny internet videos are in hiatus until I know the Marxist is out of our White House?
Never mind, thank you for letting me vent. I raised her as a Conservative, so whilst unspoken, she knows full well what is going on. That is why she is going on to Grad school to wait out seeking a career until a Conservative President takes over in 2012.
Sorry, but a rock on the noggin thrown by a janitor hurts just as much as one thrown by an advertising executive. I just don't understand how you cannot see the problem when it's in front of your face! This is the Zero's man trying to stir up trouble and you think he doesn't have access to the Clown in Chief's mailing list? Please man, wake up!
When these Nazis get mad, they really get mad. Herr Lerner is a good example of the SS. Sieg Heil.
I bet Herr Lerner listens to the Horst Wessel tune whenever he can.
Speaking of Knuckles Garducci… here he is, prepping himself for his first romantic encounter with Mr. Lerner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gMfojcIRPs
Thanks for the info, kent. It's good to know when to 'walk away'.
And charge his family for the rope.
I do see a problem, but it just seems awfully minor to me. A 3rd rate official in a 2nd rate union that represents service workers being seen as a threat to America: come on. I do tend to be against violence, so I understand that a thrown rock is a thrown rock. Even if the SEIU official, or un-official as the case may be, caused 100,000 rocks to be thrown, its only a bunch of rocks that end up being relocated less then 100 feet from the throwers. This is not a major problem. btw: I am NOT a supporter of a Obama. He came into office with very little (no) executive experience and it shows.
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