The UAW and Unionization by Ultimatum
by LaborUnionReportWith the United Auto Workers’ membership at a third of its former size, and the job-destroying card-check bill (the misleadingly-named Employee Free Choice Act) dead for now, UAW President Bob King and the rest of his Detroit henchmen have had to come up with an inventive way in which to save their dying union by getting new members.
In July, the UAW hooked up with Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH coalition and vowed to target the employees of foreign-owned automakers. In August, the United Auto Workers’ Bob King declared his intent to “shame” companies that do not accept his “Principles for Fair Union Elections.” While eyes rolled throughout the labor relations community, most withheld comment, opting to wait and see what King had up his festooned sleeve. Well, the wait is over.
Because King’s “principles” were unilaterally conjured up in some back office at the UAW’s HQ (or on one of the UAW’s fairways), and given the hints of doom and gloom if an employer did not comply, many never really expected the UAW’s principles to be necessarily fair or principled. As a result, when the UAW officially issued its “principles” on Monday, the Union of Ailing Workplaces UAW did not surprise anyone with its wrong-headedness. In fact, not only did Bob King keep the basic tenets of the failed Employee Free Choice Act in place, he’s taken it even further.
The UAW’s “Principles for Fair Union Elections” [view PDF here] is a series of 11 mostly one-sided and seemingly innocuous guidelines, a few of which are harmless, a few that are superfluous, and several which strike at the heart of an employer’s property and free speech rights.
For example:
# 5. Equal access to the electorate
During the course of a union representational campaign, employees will have the opportunity to hear equally from both the union and management regarding this issue. There will be no mandatory meetings of employees on the issue of unionization unless the UAW is invited to participate in the meetings. Written and oral communications must be equal. The union must be granted the same ability as the employer to post campaign material.
During the course of union campaigns today, unions have access to employees during their off-hours and frequently engage in home visits and telephone soliciting. In addition, during non-working time (i.e., break times and lunches), union supporters can and often do “campaign” their co-workers Employers, on the other hand, are normally restricted to communicating with employees only during work time.
Moreover, the employer operates under much stricter legal scrutiny than unions during unionization campaigns [see NLRB poster here detailing current restrictions].
The UAW’s “principle” is aimed at eliminating all direct communication an employer may have with employees, unless the UAW is present.
# 6. Disavow any threats from community allies
Management will explicitly disavow, reject and discourage messages from corporate and community groups that send the message that a union would jeopardize jobs. Likewise, the UAW will explicitly disavow, reject and discourage messages from community groups that send the message that the company is not operating in a socially responsible way.
Never mind that a union could, in fact, jeopardize jobs, the UAW’s insistence that a company can somehow control a community group is pathetic. Moreover, it’s hypocritical when the UAW already has “community groups” in its back pocket itching to attack companies that don’t roll over to the UAW. Worse, what happens if a group of employees organizes its own community group opposed to unionization? If an employer discourages employees (at the UAW’s insistence), both could be violating employees’ rights.
And here is where the UAW goes completely off the reservation:
# 9 Secret ballot election
The democratic right of workers to freely and collectively choose if they want to form their UAW local union is the workers’ First Amendment right. A secret ballot election incorporating these principles is an acceptable method of determining union representation if principles two through six have been adhered to, and if there is no history of anti-union activities. The parties may select an alternative method on a case-by-case basis that reflects the best process for demonstrating employee wishes. If the parties cannot agree on specifics of the procedure, an arbitrator may decide. [Emphasis added.]
That’s card-check. Any questions?
Now, read this one carefully…
#10 Bargaining
If employees choose to unionize, the employer and union will engage in collective bargaining to achieve an agreement as soon as possible. The goal will be an agreement that takes into account the employer’s need to remain competitive; the dignity, respect, and value of every employee; the importance and value of full employee engagement and creative problem solving; and that provides a fair compensation system. The employer and the UAW commit to full information sharing and joint creative problem solving. The employees will vote on whether to accept the agreement. Disagreements between the union and company will be discussed in a respectful manner. If no agreement is reached within six months of recognition, the parties may mutually agree to mediation and/or interest arbitration to resolve any outstanding issues.
First, the UAW wants access to employer records and, presumably, books (as in profit and loss statements).
Second, while the UAW states that employees have the right to vote on an agreement, the union then goes on to state that any disagreements would be submitted, after mediation, to an arbitrator—which means employees would not vote after all. [See related article on how the NLRB approved the UAW's denial of its own members' voting rights.]
Of course, Monday’s release of the UAW’s “Principles for Fair Union Elections” came with an as-promised iron-fist-in-a-velvet-glove threat aimed at employers:
UAW President Bob King signaled in an interview the union is willing to take a much less confrontational approach to foreign car makers than it did decades ago in battles to become established at the Big Three.
But if the companies don’t agree to a set of rules being promoted by the union to ensure what it calls free and fair union elections, he indicated the fight could turn nasty—and global.
The UAW, he said, would hold demonstrations at the corporate headquarters of these companies outside the U.S. as well as at their U.S. plants. In addition, it would picket their dealerships in the U.S. and abroad, and sports events globally that are sponsored by the car companies.
Mr. King said he will tap the union’s strike fund of more than $800 million for the push, calling it the best way to protect his current membership. “We have, in many ways, pretty deep pockets in terms of what we’re willing to spend,” said Mr. King, adding that the union already approved spending $60 million on organizing at its convention in June. “We have really unlimited resources to devote to this. It’s unlike anything that’s been seen in the UAW in many, many years.”
The UAW’s thug-like threats not withstanding, with a plan as duplicitous as this, why the UAW believes that it can hide behind the facade of having any ‘principles’ is beyond reason.
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"In July, the UAW hooked up with Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH coalition and vowed to target the employees of foreign-owned automakers."
That is FUNNY!
I wonder if they are going to target Al Gore?
Gore got government money, to build an eco-friendly car. It will sell for about 80 grand.
It is being manufactured, guess where………….
Finland. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12538316081263901...
That's right Bob, stick to the communist agenda. Force them to unionize or run them out of the country with the jobs. More unemployement Bob? I guess in his world it is better to have people sitting on curbs waiting for work that is unionized than it is actually earning and spending. Mr. King is a hazard to economic recovery by all actions noted.
Time to call for a RICO investigation of all union leaders!
I read an article about this yesterday in the WSJ. It appears that the UAW is making a push into "right to work" states. Let's hope that they fail. Remember Boeing is building a gazzillion dollar plant in South Carolina. If these unions succeed we will lose even more of our competitive advantage we have over other aircraft exporting countries.
I must admit there are days I'm sympathetic to the concept of putting taxes on importing most of that commie chinese crap.
Today is one of them.
Unions are only needed if you are lazy, unmotivated, unskilled, and do a job that robots are soon going to replace.
They are business and job killers. What we REALLY need is national right to work… END closed union only shops in all 50 states.
Just another reason why unions are not good for America or the workers. Good grief, the communists are at it again. A good example is the alleged slowdown on snow removal by union bosses. If we truly followed the Constitution, all states would be right to work states with an option to unionize.
Finally! Some rights for American workers of foreign manufacturers. And, this is good new for the Democrats. Once UAW internationalizes ALL autoworkers, imagine the nice campaign funding that will be available for Dems!!!
Well done, Mr. King.
Review your previous postings. The children are at play.
You have that right.
UNION workers are barely one evolutionary step ahead of a good robot. Even then, robots have their distinct advantages. They do not need a lunch break, sick leave, or holiday pay, and they certainly don't piss on the floor when aiming for the urinal.
With that being duly noted, I just made the case for robots.
I like point #6 disavow threats from "community allies", but yet the UAW is teaming up with one. Uh, what exactly is JJ and his Rainblow group? Just a bunch of passers-by?
Biggest reason I buy foreign cars … they minimize the Union footprint.
Here's the notice that needs to be posted in all break areas "In the event you vote for a union this plant will be moved to China" to make sure they know what the true result of their actions well be.
So how's that union thing working out in China?
It would appear as though we are always in "defense" mode with the Unions and the Liberals. Isn't it about time we go on the offensive?
I'm sure there is a nice prostitute out there who would "hook up" with Mr. King wearing a nice little pen camera.
well, first, what if the workers decide to join a different union, why is the uaw thier only choice? they might want to join the panty inspectors local, or the gold brickers of america union, why should the uaw have sole access to the workers? second, why are there no restrictions on how the unions may, or may not contact employees? also, why are not the potential union members not able to inspect the books of the proposed union? also, why do the businesses need to comply with union dictates, since the union does not currently represent the workers? shouldn't the union butt out until the workers actually decide on union representation? and if the workers decide to not join, how many years must the union wait to try this sham again? i say only once per decade, or century.
http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/friedman.union...
Impact of Communists
Inspired by the success of the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, revolutionary Communist Parties were organized throughout the world to promote revolution by organizing labor unions, strikes, and political protest. Communism was a mixed blessing for labor. The Communists included some of labor's most dedicated activists and organizers who contributed greatly to union organization. But Communist help came at a high price. Secretive, domineering, intolerant of opposition, the Communists divided unions between their dwindling allies and a growing collection of outraged opponents. Moreover, they galvanized opposition, depriving labor of needed allies among state officials and the liberal bourgeoisie.
You've got to hand it to the UAW. Not content with destroying the U.S. auto industry, the UAW is now going to destroy foreign auto companies operating in the U.S. Time to start learning how to ride a horse because it's quite likely there will be no auto industry in ten years if the UAW gets it's way.
The real cherry on the parfait is that the Rev. Jesse Jackson and his shakedown brigade are being brought in as the shock troops for this effort. Mr. King might want to re-think his choice of allies. The Rev. Jackson will stay on board until Toyota or Honda or someone offers both he and his family a large enougth "incentive" (i.e. "payoff") to declare victory and withdraw.
"Look for the union label.. . . . ."
Or we will hurt you.
*snort*
You forgot something – it is okay for liberals to have no morals. The conservatives are the only people that require consequences.
Somehow I don't think the leadership of the United Working Girl's Association would approve of that.
What exactly does the union provide for its members?
I'd say about as well as it's working out here(re: SEIU, UAW's faltering membership and influence}
+Hanzo+
Typical commie/fascist/progressive tripe, an attempt to stifle true freedom by threat. Push, push, push, it's all these Marxist scumbags know.Well, when push comes to shove…….. +Hanzo+
If I understand your logic, you are supporting unions in the name of rights of American workers, yet instead they just take those rights away. On top of that, they support a party that likes to keep the people down by making them rely on welfare and punish those who succeed on their own.
So in short, you are supporting worker oppression and the union bosses and Dems who oppress them.
I say that we drop the unions period. We dont need them and they are nothing but a killer of businesses and denier of true worker rights.
Today's UAW is nothing more than a shake down of both employees and Employer's, and as Welcome as Herpes at a Whore House.
Make all foreign auto makers in the United States union, ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRIGGIN MINDS!!! Do this and see how fast they all move to China, where unions have run most of the good paying jobs already. Of course, it will be blamed on the companies for being greedy, and not the unions for demanding wages and benefits that cannot be supported by today's vehicle prices. Yo, unions, you are over the hump and sliding down the other side, short of violence, you don't have a bat's chance in hell. Actually, the New York sanitation union's exposed "slow down" hopefully has cut the throats of union organizers through out America.
Google; Striking UMW violence and see how many people have been murdered in the name of unionizing in the coal fields. Rich Trumka is a thug.
Where have you been? I was getting all set to send out a posse, please read this and tell me what you think . . .
To The Editor:
Some weeks ago Mr. Geller advanced the false notion that the amorphous movement of Tea Party seems hell bent for leather to create the second civil war, and further, that if we were to achieve our ultimate ends the Union itself would render the federal government feckless to cary out any of its enumerated duties.
Nothing can be farther from the truth.
Apologies to Mr. Clinchy if I get any of this wrong, but I’m going from memory here. From the dawn of this Constitutional republic a tension has rightly existed between the notion of the individual as sovereign, and the state as the sovereign. We have, only once, in our more then two hundred years of history gone to war when the political system was unable to be effectively used to solve the wrenching problem of slavery and the dichotomy presented by a growing industrial economy as well as that of an agrarian one. Money is the root of all war, including our Civil War, slavery was just a pawn. Like all pawns it had to face the worst of the fire with little ability to fight back. Though the Union won the war and re-established the federal governments role as the rightful center of our Constitutional Republic, during the time since we have once again evolved into the shameful circumstances that were the progenitor of that war.
We have slavery in the form of illegal immigrants doing the dangerous and dirty work with the acknowledgment instead of the thankfully passed slave owner, now the current slave owner is the federal government as it turns a blind eye to the largest voter registration program liberal democrats have ever envisioned. Our economy is in far worse shape then it was then. We are printing money to pay our bills, and borrowing it from future enemies to pay supposed “benefits.” (Which are really distributions from a progressive tax code) The last election was a reaction to that reality. Republicans saved the Union then, they will save the Union now.
Ulysses S. Grant once said something very close to this “. . .the surest way to demonstrate the folly of the legislature is to implement their laws quickly.” Well, in this day and age, we can rapidly discuss and determine the negative affects of liberal democratic policy, and react to it. In time we will solve this nations economic problems with a broad base of taxation at a flat rate, individual and private savings accounts, and an automatic tax system that does not threaten us with incarceration. This will not be easy. But it must be done. Besides, Mr. Geller, if there was a Civil War today who would win? The left wing liberal democrats under the command of General Bloomberg, who at the sight of a pistol wets his pants and can’t even manage a snow plow, or the socially and economically liberated south that can turn a piece of PVC pipe into a mortar tube. This trip to insanity, at your instigation, has been fun but in the coming years you’ll be shocked at how much “progress” conservatives make – and we will be stronger and safer as a nation for it.
Respectfully,
Picture this little gem. . . .
A big family dinner. ALL of my wife's uncles work for the UAW and me. A conservative, who washed dishes instead of taking unemployment, who use's the name Ronald Reagan with reverence, who feels that "paying your own way" is the right to live and raise children.
Now imagine if we ever got to dessert.
LOL
My 13 year old son (wise beyond his years) made the comment to me last night while discussing public sector unions, "So paying union dues is like being forced to buy access to an Internet porn site?".
Having grown up in Detroit and worked in the auto industry (non-union engineer) for 20+ years in my early career I can tell you first-hand that the UAW is more to blame for the big three's woes than any other entity. The stories I can relate about union "workers" sitting around and literally doing nothing for entire weeks on end would make any honest person be embarrassed for them. Keep the UAW and all other unions out or risk going the way of Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn, Mercury and all the other once great brands that are now footnotes in history.
Do you mean that American workers are being FORCED to work for those foreign manufacturers where they get good salaries, health care and benefits because the company is not being strangled by a union?
SHOCKING!
Probably not, but it would give us someone to make fun of.
Heading up the hill…………….
Not a bad comment there, except with the porn site, you know what your getting access to. With unions dues, that money goes to where the bosses say so. So some money from your paycheck is used to either line the union leaders pockets or to help them gain political power to which ever politicain they benefit from the most.
Something the union supporter here doesnt know, is that the union makes no money of its own. It has to leech of the employees and/or the employeer. No one should pay union dues and the unions should have their political power stripped away from them to.
So your saying that unless unionized they have no "rights"? Are you really serious or just an idiot?
or, another sign, if you vote for this union, you will be asked to beat your fellow americans at townhall meetings if they disagree with our candidate endorsed for election.
It appears that if card check ever passes, more business and industry will relocate to friendlier countries. Unions should be considering how to attract those groups back into the US to improve prospects and the job market. Yet, they seem to only be interest in destroying their rice bowls. Weird.
The unions need to be destroyed…if the union comes to someones privite home, can they be asked to leave and if they don't can there be charges for trespassing?
Caterpillar once was the largest employer in Central Illinois. In the 60's, you couldn't swing a stick without hitting somebody who worked for Big Yellow. In the 80's the UAW factions decided to strike to "force" Cat to comply with their demands. Essentially, Cat got smart, started contracting out their work and now their UAW workforce is a mere shadow of what they once were.
Caterpillar's moved a lot of their business and factories out of the country. A lot of us in the area consider UAW to mean U Ain't Working.
Oh, Carlton, you ignorant slut! Exactly what protections do unions give that the Feds don't already cover in their massively, suffocating legislation, that, btw, favor union slugs anyways. As with the Feds, King and the HouseBoyJackson know how to spend your dues better than you.
In Arizona we have already voted against "secret ballot elections" in our state, in the last election.
Imagine the men with the batons, cuffs, and nice gulag accommodations for the useful idiots. Well done Steve.
INVESTIGATE THE UNIONS!
OBAMA THE DICTATOR
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The Anti Liberal Zone
Nothing more than union thuggery at its worst. What are the Unions really after: to protect the abused worker, or money and political power?
Unions have killed the goose that has laid the golden egg many a time. Look at the rusting former industries in Pennsylvania or Michigan. Unions had a role in the past. They still do, but not to intimidate, not to harass, not to dictate and certainly not to impose a union where none is wanted or needed . The idea of a closed shop needs to end. Every shop in this country should be open as it is accordance with our Constitutional freedoms.
CARD CHECK is anti-democratic. It is anti-individual. Every worker should have a choice as to whether they will join or not join a union. The LABOR DEPARTMENT BETTER NOT START WRITING REGULATIONS TO IMPOSE CARD CHECK. Republicans, in Congress, you had better keep an eye on the unions and the D of Labor.
Here is a website to demonstrate the D of Labor working with SEIU. http://www.nrtwc.org/a-true-%E2%80%9Ccard-check%E...
IF CONGRESS WILL NOT TAKE ACTION, THE STATES NEED TO!!!!
ANOTHER SOLUTION – THE REPEAL AMENDMENT – THE STATES'S VETO
"Any provision of law or regulation of the United States may be repealed by the several states, and such repeal shall be effective when the legislatures of two-thirds of the several states approve resolutions for this purpose that particularly describe the same provision or provisions of law or regulation to be repealed."
For more info check http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=12144
Is this became an amendment to the Constitution, the States by a 2/3rds vote of state legislatures could repeal the bill authorizing the existence of the Department of Labor and the regulations it made about Card Check.
Yep, forget democracy.
How's the last two years of dictatorship worked out for the American worker?
Steve, pull out now, you're being choked by your own A$$hole!
Where are the union members railing about how 'fat' the union leaders live? There is only the rhetoric about how corrupt and rich business owners are, who, provide the means for these ungrateful, albeit, unwitting, puppets of the unions to exist. The Rev. jackson…..are you kidding? This immoral, hypocrit knows not the meaning of a hard days work for an honest wage.
I hope these companies are smart enough to PUSH Jackson the heck out the door. His irrelevance is showing.
Good comment. I did point out that at least you are purchasing a good with the porn site. And because of that fact, the porn site, according to economic theory, is worth much more than any union could ever claim to be.
Boeing could have built in Everett Washington with much infrastructure and a trained work force already in place. Gee, I wonder why they went there?
This may be too premature to say but, watch if these unions don't get thrown under the bus by this administration eventually…..it's not like it never happened before (the thrown under the bus part).
Hell, even some of the liberal media's recently been noting the parasitic non-value these unions are becoming to our economy.
One can only hope!
With as sad as that is, it is very true. But I will say, I do trust porn sites more than any unions, besides the best sites are free anyway. Unions on the otherhand do nothing for free their so called support for workers rights should be free to. Since when is it right to take money out of someones paycheck to pay for a right they already have.
Not to mention, unions go with the my way or the highway mentality to. Unions prevent workers choice and have already bullied they way into markets they dont belong either. What can I say, I utterly dispise unions and the lies they sell to their hard workers and the public to.
I think its time that unions are looked upon as "BIG BUSINESS' and put on a leveled playing field with the employer. If the union must be present when the employer talks to the employees, then the employer must be present when the union talks to the employees.
The days of special preference to the union should have been over decades ago. The only thing it does now is encourage corruption by….wait for it……GREED. Oh, the humanity…once again GREED is the driving force. GREEDY union bosses and union management, kind of like GREEDY executives.
Democrats – Thieves, Thugs (unions), Thralls and Thickheads.
Unions don't make law in America. We the People do! There is a limit to how much we will tolerate from unions and if we are not there, we are so damned close you can see it.
I can see it now…. Union built Yugo Hugos from Venezuela that run completely off of hot air.
If Toyota starts closing down its American plants, I hope you'll have the integrity to blame the UAW and the administration for the resulting massive job losses.
The only reason this is happening, is because there's a community organizer in the white house!
When Brains Are Outlawed….Only Outlaws Will Have Brains!
I used to belong to a Union, because I was given a choice – pay union dues and be able to vote in Union elections, or pay union dues and not be able to vote in Union elections. Since I wanted to be able to vote against strikes, I joined. During my rather brief membership, the only think I saw the Union do was to protect workers who didn't want to work. What a joke. I left the Union when I was promoted into a Salary job. If the UAW is going to go "demonstrate" using their thugs at the headquarters of auto companies that don't comply with this nonsense, I think the Tea Party ought to be there as well to counter protest, and I would use some of my vacation time to do exactly that. Time to take out the garbage.
In July, the UAW hooked up with Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH coalition and vowed to target the employees of foreign-owned automakers. LMAO…………..
What would keep foreign-owned automakers somewhere else in the world?
Are these Union idiots watching too much of OWN?
#10 Bargaining states "If employees choose to unionize, the employer and union will engage in collective bargaining to achieve an agreement as soon as possible. The goal will be an agreement that takes into account the employer’s need to remain competitive"
What will happen if it gets to this point is that when the union and management cannot come to terms the NLRB will get involved because the union will claim the company is negotiating in bad faith. With the current complexion of the NLRB management board it will not go well for the employer. This will be another test of State rights verses the Fed.
And this statement "Management will explicitly disavow, reject and discourage messages from corporate and community groups that send the message that a union would jeopardize jobs" Hello McFly…. can anyone say 1st Amendment Rights.
Wow.
Your circuitous logic and false representations not withstanding; that was dumb.
Workers rights can only be gained thru collective unification of the interests of and formidable application of the rights and inherent powers of the worker.
Someone such as yourself, who clearly has made his living hurting others either economically or morally; you wouldn't understand working towards a collective goal. Individualist that you are.
Do you police the town you live in? Provide your own water and electricity to your home? Grow your own food? Extract your own oil and refine your own gas? Dispose of your own sewage and solid waste?
No.
But you are a rugged individualist who built his success all on his own and hates that workers WANT to collectively improve their lot in life.
How naive.
Actually, dullard, no.
But, those companies can not, will not and should not be shielded from the will of the American worker just because their coporate headquarters are in Bavaria or on some Asian Island.
So, we should allow them to come to our country, a country built on the back of industrialization (read: unions) and be exempt from being unionized?
Seriously? That's what you want? You are as far from a Patriotic Conservative as one could be.
Well, let me type slower so you understand…<rolls eyes>…..
The union will better collectively protect their rights and advance their interests than they are able to do on their own.
Good grief. You can't be this slow by accident.
Aren't you one of the guys screeding about how the federal government is taking away our rights? Walking over the Constitution? Crushing the will of the people?
Yet, in this instance you trust they Feds will protect the collective rights and interests of the people?
Oh, the hypocrisy!!!! LOL.
You stand for NOTHING. You are no Patriot. Picking and choosing when the government can be trusted or when the government is 'protecting' our rights.
You can't have it both ways, simple mind.
And the result would be what? A resurgence of US automakers?
Hmmm.
Hello Joe.
Where have I been?
"Where there is no occasion for expressing an opinion, it is best to be silent, for there is nothing more certain than that it is at all times more easy to make enemies than friends".
~ George Washington ~
Advice to his adopted Grandson
Joe, that somewhat sums up the atmosphere here, the past several weeks; both in the tone of those commenting, and the quality of the threads submitted.
I like your letter.
The Civil War is one of my favorite topics.
I'll butcher this one, but try paraphrasing Robert E. Lee, who commented on his surrender:
"I surrendered more out of respect for the belief in the inherent goodness of Abraham Lincoln, than I did out of the fear of the might of General Grant's Army."
You really need to learn how to construct a sentence.
The only thing the union is interested in protecting is their fat coffers. It is the unions that help to destroy our once great manufacturing base. And before you go off on some rant about how great the unions are, I have worked for 2 different unions and they breed laziness. We had one d-bag that got fired twice for drug use on the job and each time the union got him his job back, with back pay. The unions had their place but now they are more interested in promoting their socialist agenda then they are in protecting "workers".
That boy is Brilliant!
Well done as a Parent there Dad (or Mom).
More proof as to why you must never hire, or buy, anything built by, or from, a union. Let everything they touch sit on a shelf until the companies are bankrupt, and can dissolve their filthy, corrupt, un-American union contracts.
Do not vacation or visit any state that is controlled by unions. There are plenty of beautiful right-to-work states that deserve your hard-earned dollars.
Stop paying union members to destroy America and enslave you, personally.
Lincoln freed the slaves, unions enslave the free.
Ron Reale
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Listen, dickweed—I was a union member back when we still had a steel industry in this country. That was before the unions strangled them out of existence and killed millions of jobs and pensions for retirees.
You are a total ignorant a s s hole who doesn't understand WTF you're talking about.
I doubt it. The unions have strangled the US automakers, to the point where they can't compete with the Japanese. Same thing happened in the UK many years ago: British-owned automakers went out of business (or were bought out by foreign companies) completely. Every vehicle built in the UK today is built by a non-UK manufacturer.
So, it comes down to whether American autoworkers want a job, or no job!
That's a really interesting idea,. Start a reasonable alternative union, one that rewards competence over seniority and generally operates as a partner to management rather than an adversary. Surely, the law cannot be that an employer must deal with a particular union. After all, who has the authority to award a monopoly like that.
it was just a joke. i wouldn't want any joker negotiating on my behalf. if i can't convince the boss to give me a raise, how can somebody else??
Yeah, I agree, but a'"right to work" alternative union might be a clever way to get around all these coerciive pro-union laws that are very difficult to outright eradicate in blue states. It's a way to point out how traditional unions are not advantageous for productive workers, as such workers would obviously prefer the alternative union. Unions like to claim they are good for all, which is a clear and blatant lie, that never the less seems to be difficult for some people to grasp. If such unions were left with only the underperforming dregs, what power would they really have?
Sorry there naive dumbass, but you are completely wrong. Workers already have rights and they dont need some stupid collective to join for their rights. Workers, like every American have individual rights, and it is those rights that they need to rely on. Not the rights of some stupid union leader who will only take advantage of them.
Can you explain how an idividualist has hurt others economically or morally. As I earn my own paycheck, I pay my taxes, and I support economic freedom. As far as morals, that is what I live by along with ethics, something you probably dont understand. In fact, it is the collective that is hurting our country morally and economically.
Your last two statements are utter BS. I support those who take care of the city and its people. But they dont need unionization to do so. As they work for us, we dont work for them. Only thing is that the collective you talk about couldnt care less about individual rights and just take them away to gain their power. In short, union bosses are the 20th century slave owners, and the American workers are their slaves as oppose to the workers working for themselves and support the economy their way.
Sorry I am late to comment on this, but I was out shooting my new carbine. Lotta fun!
No sane reading of the Constitution will reveal any phrase in it that supports the Federal Government from being involved with unions, neither compelling it on any state, or denying it. The document is silent. The only thing they could hang their hats on is the "commerce clause". That has been stretched like silly putty by the legal class to mean virtually anything. But the actual definition of commerce is fairly simple: Commerce is the exchange of goods and services from the point of production to the point of consumption to satisfy human wants. (wikipedia)
Unions are a state matter and the Federal Government has no business getting involved in it. The department of labor should be eliminated.
Watch this jackass – http://www.breitbart.tv/union-boss-trumka-admits-...
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