Obamacare: The President’s Wooden-headed Interpretation of Our Constitution
by Ken Blackwell and Ken KlukowskiSometimes you hate being right.
In chapter 4 of our book, The Blueprint: Obama’s Plan to Subvert the Constitution and Build an Imperial Presidency, we make the point that Team Obama would try to pull a fast one when it comes to Obamacare’s individual mandate that everyone reading this blog post needs to buy health insurance, or be subject to a penalty payable to your good friends at the IRS.
We first made this argument in a column we coauthored with Senator Orrin Hatch in the Wall Street Journal back in January. Now this issue has suddenly exploded back into the news.
For months, Team Obama has been saying that the individual mandate is authorized by Congress’ power to regulate interstate commerce found in the Commerce Clause. We explain in the book why that argument is a loser in court, and that the White House would have to pull a bait-and-switch and suddenly argue that the mandate is a tax (violating Obama’s promise not to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250K per year).
Looks like we were right. In their first filing against the multi-state lawsuit challenging Obamacare, Team Obama is now arguing that the individual mandate is… a tax.
If you read chapter 4 of our book, though, after we explain how the mandate is not authorized by the Commerce Clause, we then go on to explain how it is also unconstitutional if it’s a tax.
Evidently worried about this, Team Obama then goes on to argue that if the court doesn’t buy the tax argument either (because the argument is bogus, perhaps?), then it’s still justified under the General Welfare Clause.
Anticipating that, our next section in chapter 4 explains why the mandate is also not authorized by the General Welfare Clause.
We close that section by noting that one thing you’re taught in law school is that the General Welfare Clause doesn’t authorize the federal government to do anything. It is a limitation on federal power, not a source of additional power.
When you cite the General Welfare Clause, you’re grasping at straws. That’s exactly what Team Obama is doing. Their legal argument is desperate, because the Obamacare mandate is unconstitutional.
With Elena Kagan’s confirmation vote for the Supreme Court right around the corner, this issue could not be more timely. We need federal courts that will uphold the Constitution’s limits on federal power. They can start by striking down Obamacare.
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Joe Wilson was RIGHT. He is a LIAR
Well, you know, when he said all those things he didn't really mean them. He just wanted to win the election, not be president.
Who do you think pays for the uninsured? Think really hard. The Easter Bunny? No, try again. Santa Claus? No, try again. I know. The government and the persons with insurance because hospitals pass down the cost of their deadbeats to their paying customers. I thought conservatives were all about individual reliance and not forcing the government to pick up the tab, when you should do it yourself. I must be mistaken.
First thing the Republicans should do in January is retract the censure of Joe Wilson. They probably won't, but they should.
Obama has brought more inflamed racism back into this country, than anyone I have ever seen! He is running as fast as he can to be America's first dictator….if WE THE PEOPLE don't stand up and protect ourselves from this monster in the White House, we will not have a free country long! He has taken over the most important elements of what America stands for, and if the politicians can't shut up long enough to see that we are doomed!
Ken & Ken,
You're right. Obama is running the same game as FDR. He's going to try to find a way to steamroll the SCOTUS if he can't end run them. I only hope that the American public has become sophisticated enough to recognize it for what it is this time around and put the clamps on him fast. The man has no respect for the Constitution or the Will of the American people.
NEXT:::::::::::::::::::::::EXECUTIVE ORDER, ANYONE?
Good Lord. I have to hand it to you. When God passed out brains, you thought he said trains and asked for a slow one.
Yes, you are mistaken, and obviously not conservative lest you would not make such ill-informed comments
Are you referring the We The People when you say government? I thought the illegal aliens were paying for this.
I have no problem helping someone who knocks on my door and ask for help. Its when they kick in my door and help themselves to my hard earned wealth that we part ways.
And WHY is the hospital passing that cost onto the rest of us? By what right? If you don't have a car am I to be forced to buy you one? So you're argument is essentially "We are already doing immoral thing A so lets just go to immoral thing B".
Not much of an argument. yes we all know full well that against our will and our wishes some well intentioned LOSER will force the rest of us to pay for someone else. That does not make it right.
Oh and before you start with the innocent eyed "but what about the sick people" argument, I would do much better driving down the street chucking quarters out my car window than letting a gov that has wasted .5 to 1 til in waste in the current emdicare/medicade system handle any distribution of money to the poor and sick.
The US voluntarily gave over $310 billion last year during a recession in voluntary contributions NOT paid for by taxes. We can help the poor if the gov would get out of our way.
The problem is the Republicans and RINOs. I don't think any of them have the guts to filibuster Kagan. So, it looks like we're gonna have vote almost the entire senate and congress out of office!
Maybe if Obama read the Preamble to the Constitution, he would understand the Constitution itself. It mentions providing the common defence and promoting the general welfare, not the other way around. But then, if you aren't interested in the Constitution, why bother reading it? Or better yet, just misinterpret it and you can do anything!
If you like it when the government decides things for you, takes away your freedoms and mandates illegal legislation, why not GTFO of the USA and move to Cuba or Venezuela? I you simply called Hugo, and showed him all your pathetic postings here, I'm sure he would let you in to the paradise he's created there. You'll love it! He decides everything for you! Sounds perfect for an up and coming commie like yourself. Don't wait, go now!
Dear Barack Ogabe:
Reconcile this, you distasteful, malevolent little quisling punk racist – a timely reminder of some words I never thought would have such import during my lifetime:
"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
The cause is well known and it is just. When the alleged leader of a democratic republic places his own wishes so above those of the complete body politic, he is no longer worthy of the title, leader, no matter what office he might occupy.
Only a fool with no clear appreciation of, or for, America past and present, would dare undertake what this pustule in the White House is attempting to do. It is contingent upon the Republican Party to undertake every step, every maneuver it can to bring this government to a halt.
Mark our words, Ogabe: When a government has lost the consent of the governed, and every single damn poll regarding whether or not the governed want his shit sandwich shows that he's lost it, in spades, then that government is no longer legitimate. It is a regime, and it is not merely the right, it is the duty of all free men and women to remove said regime, by any means necessary.
Signed,
WE THE PEOPLE
Just for argument sake (not that I'm endorsing ANY of this), isn't the insurance mandate technically a tax anyway? A tax is using force to make us pay for a good or service against our will, like streets, fire, police, fisting art for homosexuals… so technically the gov is not doing anything different here since they are technically forcing us against our will to purchase a good or service.
We are even forced to pay for goods and services against our will with private sector stuff like street building being contracted to private firms or garbage or private companies building statues.
I think the forced purchase is wrong to begin with but at least the money doesn't go into some horribly badly run gov agency then paid out at 10cents to the dollar for the service. It goes directly to the service. If the gov mandated we HAD TO buy school services but the schools were private and we could pick the schools and change them, that still would be better than handing the $$$ to the gov and have it eat over 75% in admin costs.
SK, don't generalize. He's only lying when his lips are moving… or he's writing an e-mail… or on IM… or using his Blackberry… or in any other way communicating his thoughts. Other than those times he's absolutely telling the truth.
Slow, Sirp? Hmmm. So who do you think pays for the uninsured? Oh, you must be part of the free lunch crowd.
Forgive me Lord for the thoughts I have about Obama. The lying sack of pig poop.
Once again mack, you are ignoring reality. Who do you think pays for the uninsured. Think real hard.
Remember kids, we got ourselves a rock star in the white house, not a statesman, serviceman, engineer or businesman, but a rockstar. WOW!!!! Right now we have the government we deserve. Apathy has brought us to this place in history, misery is the only way out!! George Bush coundn't sneeze without threats of impeachment, but Obummer can violate the constition and get away with it. It's good to be the king!!!
If you don"t like it just change the name.
If it looks like a skunk and smells like a skunk it's a stinker and this whole thing smells.
The government does not pay it takes money from the people …Gawd the left are idiots…Ohhh my bad wait…Bo your mother is calling you to come eat your wheaties..be a good boy and shut off your puter and play station now…And not a good idea to take your Bong up to dinner
Hey look everyone! HLB is trying to use facts. Isn't that cute. Perhaps someone should tell him it only works when your facts are correct. Anyone using the medical services pay additional costs for those who cannot pay. You say the government pays for the deadbeats. You infer through that statement that the government has a job and actually produces something to earn it's own money. Had you said TAXPAYERS then the fact would have been 100% spot on! Who really pays for the deadbeats are anyone who is actually productive in our society. If you earn a living you're paying for a deadbeat.
Now, to what us conservatives are all about… We are ALL about individual responsibility. Hey. You want to work out a payment plan for your medical services? Knock yourself out. Guess what? I did that for my second kid.
And stop patronizing the people on this board. WE work for a living. You can tell cause we're the ones bitching about people taking our money and giving it to those who do not work. Peddle your BS over at the HufPo cause we've had enough of you liberals to last a lifetime. Jackweed.
You mean who's "FORCED" to pay for the uninsured?
I see. So you think it is perfectly fine to pass the costs of your health care down to me and the other persons with insurance and pay taxes. Talk about a hypocrite.
They are passing the costs down, cb like any business. A business passes the costs of their non-paying accounts to the ones that pay or they shut their doors.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental. Besides, I don't work here. I'm a consultant. Time to up your medication !!!
No, I do not live with my mother, but you must believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus because you have no clue who picks up the tab for the uninsured.
I think the first thing Republicans should do is GET ON THE SAME PAGE!!! Far too many, or I should say few enough, have juuuusst that little bit of progressive in them. I think, for example, the Tea Party Congressional Caucus will be a good thing because it will separate those Republicans who ARE conservative from those who ARE NOT Conservative. Republicans have to STOP looking out for their own well-being politically like so many Democrats. This Caucus is a good, and big, first step towards doing that. For too long Republicans have been saying that they are Conservative when it comes to spending, Taxes and Mandates like Obamacare… it's time to call out those ON OUR SIDE who don't stand up for OUR beliefs and principles. Obamacare MUST be repealed. Elena Kagan MUST NOT be confirmed, and we have to STOP this political jockey-ing that Democrats have gotten far used to using and abusing for their benefit. We NEED people who WILL stand up AT ALL TIMES, not only when it is politically positive for themselves, like Senator McCain. The worst of the worst is Lindsay Graham, Olympia Snow and Susan Collins. Either we pressure them into standing up for their party's beliefs, OR WE KICK THEM OUT!!! It IS time to TAKE A STAND!!!
If some Republicans insist on continuing playing politics, then it's time to SAY GOODBYE. Let them be Independents or Democrats (like Snow and Collins), or be replaced IMMEDIATELY by REAL Conservatives who will stand up and do the right thing for us… not for their political career!
God Bless, All!
Since some angel wing earner made a law that MANDATED all hospital ERs MUST give medical service to someone regardless if they can pay, that cost is passed on through force.
They are MANDATED to pass the cost because they are MANDATED by law to service ANYONE who enters an ER regardless of the ability to pay.
Yes it would be like if a grocery store had to sell groceries to someone even IF they could not pay. So the grocery store would pass that onto the other customers who do. But the real problem is the LAW that forces the grocery store to give out food. Same with ER services. If the hospital was not forced to give out ER services they would not pass on the costs.
Barack Hussein Obama II, aka Barry Soetoro lied and cheated his way into the white house, so once there, why would anybody believe that he'd changed his ways? Next to the likes of Jim Jones, Snake Oil salesman Barry is the biggest fraud to ever be exposed to the American people.
You + work = oxymoron. Plueeze. About the only work I can imagine you doing is passing out jihadist leaflets at a CAIR fundraising event.
I'm not worthy to shine your shoes, Mr. Blackwell and Mr. Klukowski. Excellent analysis. As a someone who sat through law school – you are correct about how one is taught Constitutional Law. I would love to retake that class, but taught by one of you, Mark Levin, Scalia, or Thomas, depending on who was available.
What an eye opener that would be!
Walking Eagle
Barack Obama gave a lecture to the American Indian Nation in upstate New York. He spoke for almost an hour, he was most enthusiastic and spoke eloquently about his ideas for helping his "red sisters and brothers."
At the conclusion of his speech, the Tribes presented Obama with a plaque inscribed with his new Indian name, "Walking Eagle." Obama proudly departed in his motorcade to the next fundraiser, waving to the crowds.
A news reporter later asked the group of chiefs how they came to select the name "Walking Eagle."
They explained that "Walking Eagle" is the name given to a bird so full of crap it can no longer fly.
More… http://usataxpayer.org/?0062470846
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I'm pretty sure all dental work is covered by the tooth fairy. Except she only pays for extractions…
On a related note, watch how our gov handles indian tribe health care. Its a mess.
I guess that proves you don't need to join the Klan to get elected, as suggested by Der Slickmeister.
I don't want to have to pay for anyone's healthcare costs. I would rather everyone pay their own way, but that just ain't gonna happen. So the next best thing is to limit the cost of those uninsured. They should be provided major medical coverage and left to pay for the small things on their own.
Obamacare is not about health care. it is about redistribution of wealth, of haven't you been listening to the guy our poser has hired to chop medical costs?
If the poser had a wooden head, we'd be in better off.
I would have to agree though that Pinnochio would have made a more worthy president.
Simply because only one guy was pulling his strings…
Wow. Really?
We say: "Obamacare is an unconstitutional law"
You reply: "The individual mandate keeps taxpayers from having to pay for the uninsured's healthcare"
You see why that doesn't address our objection? The law FORCES what you decry here.
It invents this mandate (which won't stand up because it is against the constitution) and the only argument in it's favor is that the rest of the bill (which is similarly unconstitutional) doesn't work without it?
The question here is WHO gets treated in ER the most without paying? Uh…ummmm…oh right, the ILLEGALS do. Somewhere before I posted that statistic and it's in billions of dollars.
On the other hand, if people could get jobs besides in the glorious DC, then they could afford health insurance. Our true unemployment rate is hovering arounf 22%, NOT what the idiots post everyday. Therefore, Obama takes away the jobs, then taxes through forced health insurance. Either way he gets his money and we the people can only get band-aid care.
It is fairly easy to understand Obama if:
a. You have an IQ higher than 10 (which most of his voters didn't have).
b. You were not dumbed down while you were getting an education.
c. You didn't go to Harvard or other "Ivy League" schools.
d. You are a real American and you have studied real history.
In case you need a refresher course, feel free to download this video and put it on your web site or blog: http://www.bigchief.tv/VIP.VIDEO.wmv
Hmm… do you read Husker? That was a non-sequiter if I ever saw one.
You are right – it's definately Lord Obama who pays for all the poor to get treatment – right out of his own pocket. He's so generous and AMAZING!
(/sarcasm)
Exactly.
Good one.
George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell.
While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for. The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.
Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes. When he is
finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.
Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes. When she
is finished the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.
Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.
When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush got to call the USA so cheaply.
The devil smiles and replies: "Since Obama took over, it's a local call.
Since there is no such thing as a free lunch, the persons forced to pay for the uninsured are the persons with insurance and the government. This is not a difficult concept to understand or do you think the hospitals do not charge for their services.
I see. The law forces persons to take care of themselves and a conservative objects?
if he makes one case to the people and the substantially changes his argument to present to the court, we in the real world call this lying.
why cannot the court just say "stop lying and try again" appeal denied.
Legislation nulled.
or is it just me?
And you are booking trips to the North Pole and trips to the home of the Easter Bunny.
Couldn't have said it better myself! Sheesh…… talk about arguing with idiots!
"………..who picks up the tab for the uninsured………."
you keep asking that question as if it were the most important question there Husker,…….
IT IS NOT,………
what I want to know is, as result of this idiot in the White House,..
and all these dimwits in congress,….
HOW MANY MORE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BECOME "uninsured"
Next……..Martial Law anyone?
I pay for mine and will help you if you are in need and ask, as long as it is within my means to do so. I don't think you see the point.
Answer the first question. That may help me understand were you are coming from.
Now think real hard. Do you want an ER to have the ability to refuse care? Really. Lets say you are in an accident, you need immediate care and your insurance card can not be found and no one can be contacted. Hmmm.
Lord Obama has nothing to do with whether someone should be responsible for their health care.
I think that's only because we are afraid of what we would get next!
As an employer who pays 100% of my employees' medical/dental premiums, I can tell you that we are about to be caught in a catch-22 on this healthcare thing. A ridiculous 26 days after electing a new program after Anthem cancelled our better program, it raised our premiums by over $150/mo. I have one employee who had cancer last year, was covered and got completely cured, but she cannot obtain any individual insurance at any cost without the guaranteed group coverage I set up. She has one of those pre-existing conditions now. Her monthly premium is now over $700/mo. I cannot take advantage of the 35% tax credit for small business employers because my average employee earns more than $50K a year (that's not much in S. Cal). If the govt mandated "no pre-existing condition" kicks in, her premiums will go way up, and then I will be taxed a surcharge for paying for her "cadillac plan" as these are defined solely by premium amount threshold of $10,200 and not insurability. cont.
cont.
So, if I don't pay her premiums, she gets kicked out of all insurance and will have to look to the state for one of those "state exchanges" that have yet to be formed. We are walking straight into a catch-22 and the only way to avoid it is to offer no insurance and pay the penalty or close up shop. Whoever tries the snow job on this healthcare law bringing costs down is absolutely nuts!
Fine, I will use your language. The taxpayers and the persons with insurance pay for the costs of the uninsured. Since I qualify under both categories, I am sick and tired of picking up the tab for persons who refuse to pay for their own health care. It is not a difficult concept.
And just how are you going to force a person to pay for their own major medical coverage? This should be very interesting.
Article 2 section 4 of the Constitution states,The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
I looks like they only have a couple of more to check off the list. We will give them the boot this November. Then we will fill the docket, and see them in court.
Really. What is ill-informed? Who do you believe picks up the tab for the uninsured? Hmmm. The Tooth Fairy or maybe Mother Nature?
The point is there are many persons who do not pay for insurance and pass their costs down to society.
By choice sometimes I have half a sandwich for lunch. That way I can help those who ask, just sayin.
^ This one. Not too bright. There’s nothing wrong with him that reincarnation won’t cure.
Yes. you don't understand being "conservative" do you?
That's easy. China.
Shhh.. that is a fact he doesn't what to face about his hero's mandate
LOL and just how do you think you won't be doing that in the future. Darling: Obamacare IS going to force many off of the insurance they have, maybe even including your company if they decide they can't afford it. What then oh "wise" one. How are you going to buy it for yourself when the costs are going to be out of reach..
That's right. by abdicating that and paying the "Fine" with your Taxes.. blaming the GOP all the way.
:Your brain only goes so far dearheart. You just don't get it. You are clueless. You see one thing, but you don't have the intelligence to get to the NEXT step. Typical idiot liberal.
GOD knows who you ARE Huskter
My joy is knowing what is in store for you
"vengeance is MINE says the LORD, I will repay"
And He will…over and over and over again.
No reason for me to fret,,,AAAAhh such a sign of relief
No brain cells wasted over you…useful idiot…coined by your own god of stone
"I am sick and tired of picking up the tab for persons who refuse to pay for their own health care."
Yet you are okay with the government making everyone else pay, through taxes, for the uninsured. Got news for ya there HLB, you will be paying not only for yourself, but everyone else (including illegals) under this plan.
Sorry but you just outed yourself for the absolute hypocrite that you are.
It's good to know that in 3 1/2 years when the government forces me to give up my high deductible insurance, and since I make less than $96,000 a year, that HuskersLoveBo will be there to cover my insurance with his share of the $1,000,000,000,000 in tax hikes he'll be paying.
What stupid liberals refuse to accept is that conservatives are not against helping those less fortunate than ourselves, however, you could supply every single uninsured person in America who can't afford it a high deductible insurance plan like the one I have for about $10B a year or less than 1/10th of the overly optimistic amount of Obamacare. What conservatives know that Bolovers don't is that Obamacare is not about helping the poor but expanding the size and influence of the federal government.
There is a lack of market forces in the medical industry. If insurance companies could sell policies across state lines, the cost of a policy would drop. That is called competition. Say it with me, 'com-pet-ish-un. Good. If people would pay out of pocket for routine Dr. visits, and procedures, and tests, etc. etc., costs would again go down.
Notice how when flat screen TVs and DVRs and cell phone, etc. etc. first appeared on the market, how expensive they were, but now they are cheap? That's due to market forces. Say it with me, 'mar-ket–for-seys'. Goooood! The truly poor can take advantage of something called 'CHARITY', and maybe, just maybe if your real nice, we could have some form of government subsidy to help the poor buy major medical policies. In any case, more government involvement is just going to exacerbate the problems that we already have. You should know this.
And major medical is cheap if you buy it when you are young and healthy.
But he's never telling the truth. Hell, even Bill Clinton is shocked about how much BHO lies.
This is exactly what I'm talking about and some will say it's a pipe dream, but I hold out for a strong voter upheaval come November and the Repubs will easily retake the House. With a bit of luck, also the Senate. It is certainly not out of the question. Even so, the likely margin will be significantly closed in the Senate and when push comes to shove there just might be a couple or three blue dogs who feel the intensity, and knowing what lies ahead in 2012, they may rethink again the ire of the governed and made to bring this regime down to its knees.
If nothing else, the House alone will stop this puppet by defunding his numerous knukleheaded programs, and making his last two years a miserable existence. Obama is a mockery of a President and he is certain to go down in the history books as one of the worst ever.
If you are only "taxed" if you don't buy insurance wouldn't that violate Article 1, Section 9, "No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid."
This fine/penalty/tax occurs because you failed to purchase a product or service. The Federal Government cannot compel you to purchase anything. That would make this a direct tax because it is on the person and not property. "A Capitation Tax is a tax that is levied directly upon the individual without reference to property."
See http://www.taxhistory.com/taxref.html
I am certain the "law-yers" will obfuscate this beyond reason. Ought to be interesting.
The majority of Americans KNEW that Mr. Wilson was being TRUTHFUL!!!
If the ER does not have the ability to refuse care, then they should have the ability to hold the person receiving said "emergency" services accountable for payment in full. Further, the ER should be able to ask immigration status – illegals get treated and released to their home countries for "follow up" care. Indigent legals who are able to work can work their bill off with the hospital. The truly needy already have a legitimate safety net.
Boy, are you misinformed. Nearly every companies health plan qualifies under "Obama" care. As a result, most companies will not see any change.
For starters, we can CLOSE THE BORDER to keep some of the "free-loader illegals" out of America!! I would guess we could save a few MILLION right there! See how easy that was. Now if we could only get BO and the AG to stop filing lawsuits against States!
And I bet you were marching in the street when ol' Georgie borrowed nearly one trillion from the Red Chinese to pay for a war based upon deliberately skewed intelligence.
I thought being a conservative was you wanted to take care of yourself and not rely on the government for your care. I guess I was mistaken.
Prove the intelligence was "deliberately skewed". I want proof. Real evidence. Not your word, or the word of someone at Media Matters, but real evidence. Is it with Obama's college papers?
You guys need some new material, your old stuff is getting stale.
Really. I thought you were in favor of the Constitution. Better look up the portion which outlaws debtor prisons.
Hmmm. Ever hear of Joe Wilson. Oh, I know you will call him a liberal, etc. However, if he was wrong, why didn't ol' Scooter simply release the info instead of his wife's CIA status to Robert Novak.
I see, stjoe. Illegal freeloaders are bad, but legal freeloaders are good? How about going after all freeloaders.
The government is not getting involved with the insurance issue since the public mandate was rejected.
Same old tired progressive bullshit talking points.
And nice job of changing the subject. If Bush's borrowing a trillion is bad, how can Obama's be any better? Especially when you conceder that Bush spent the money on killing terrorists, and Obama wants to use the money to enslave our children and grandchildren.
Other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Resist Federal tyranny.
That's about the stupidest answer imaginable. Come on. Are you really that stupid, or are you just a typical progressive LIAR. Has to be one of the two.
I already am paying and I am tired of it.
Talking points? No. Try convictions for perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to the FBI. Some talking points, I believe. You wanted proof and here it is. Now go deal with it big boy.
HB 1388 PASSED
"THANKS!, BARAK….from the grave"
You just spent $20,000,000 to move members/supporters of Hamas, a terrorist
organization, to the United States ; housing, food, the whole enchilada.
HB 1388 PASSED
Whether you are an Obama fan, or not, EVERYONE IN THE U.S. needs to know….
Something happened… H.R. 1388 was passed, behind our backs. You may want
to read about it… It wasn ' t mentioned on the news… just went by on the
ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN screen.
Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas Refugees to the USA
. This is the news that didn't make the headlines…
By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of
$20.3 million in "migration assistance" to thePalestinian refugees and
"conflict victims" in Gaza .
The "presidential determination," which allows hundreds of thousands of
Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States , was
signed and appears in the Federal Register.
Few on Capitol Hill, or in the media, took note that the order provides a
free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to individuals who have
displayed their overwhelming support to the Islamic Resistance Movement
(Hamas) in the parliamentary election of January 2006.
I don't know why I waste time conversing with progressive racists like you. Democrat Party, the party of slavery and the KKK. Obama, the wanna be slaveowner. And where are you gonna fit in with the slaveowners? Head Cracker?
And why didn't you answer my question about the trillion dollars?
Now we learn that he is allowing thousands of Palestinian refuges to move
to, and live in, the US at American taxpayer expense.
These important, and insightful, issues are being "lost" in the blinding
bail-outs and "stimulation" packages.
Doubtful? To verify this for
yourself: http://www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488
No, you are. The government is not going to be involved in the insurance operation. They will be involved in the enforcement via the IRS. And since I am tired of picking up the tab, I will take this necessary evil.
No, you're not mistaken, you're just a worthless, progressive, fool.
"What is ill-informed", you say? That would be you, racist.
“I have only one firm belief about the American political system, and that is this: God is a Republican and Santa Claus is a Democrat. God is an elderly or, at any rate, middle-aged male, a stern fellow, patriarchal rather than paternal and a great believer in rules and regulations. He holds men strictly accountable for their actions. He has little apparent concern for the material well-being of the disadvantaged. He is politically connected, socially powerful and holds the mortgage on virtually everything in the world. God is difficult. God is unsentimental. It is very hard to get into God’s heavenly country club. Santa Claus is another matter. He’s cute. He is nonthreatening. He’s always cheerful. And he loves animals. He may know who’s been naughty and who’s been nice, but he never does anything about it. He gives everyone everything they want without thought of a quid pro quo. He works hard for charities, and he’s famously generous to the poor. Santa Claus is preferable to God in every way but one: There is no such thing as Santa Claus.”
PJ O'Rourke
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. The healthcare mandate is a tax, no matter what they call it.
How about we deal with the illegals, and then we'll see what needs to be done with the legal ones. That ok with you? It's not ok with our tyrannical wannabe slaveowner administration, now is it?
Then why is the jackass stickin his nose into it?
Stupid, making folks buy a product is GETTING INVOLVED. Are you stupid or lying?
"the persons forced to pay for the uninsured are the persons with insurance and the government." So close and yet no Gloria Cubana. "persons with insurance and the government" It's a representative republic, Nancy, do you know what that means?
So, then, what existed before the theft of the healthcare system worked, is that what you would like to say if you could find what is left of your mind?
When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators. — P. J. O'Rourke
Good thing for you they don't have a 'dumbass prison' .
"Are you stupid or lying?" Yep.
You notice how he takes a powder when I remind him that the Democrat Party is the party of slavery and the KKK?
Haven't you read Big Government? Obummer stoled the election from Hilary. Oh God! The new ALGORE!!!
Corn silk powder. Hides the blush from being busted for being feloniously stupid and racist..
Alright HLB! We're agreeing here. That's progress I can believe in. People should pay their own way. Work out a payment plan for the mickey mouse and carry insurance for that cat. stuff. Hell I agree with that. Everyone's insurance and medical bills go down. Now what about illegals? Can we agree to send that bill to the country of origin? If so, KICKIN! That'd be another thing we agree on. Going for the hat trick here… What about a flat tax with no loopholes? Every tax ID pays the same flat amount. Say 12.5%? What do you think HLB? Can we agree on that?
That's quite a leap – it won't be debtors prison. It will be a way to get "community service" credits. It'll all be explained in 2,000 pages of new legislation. Everyone should contribute, you know.
sorry there DR,….
I didn't know he was insecure
"pustule"?? EXCELLENT!
yes because nobody can be forced to provide service to someone else. You also assume they WILL refuse service if left unto themselves which was NOT the case before the law was implemented.
Also just because the gov mandates they must provide ER services does NOT mean they get AAA care. My coworkers brother had his foot amputated even though it could have been pinned at a cost of $150k but cause the idiot drank his health care instead of paid for it, they did the most expedient thing.
This happens in ALL countries with free health care.
But I answered your question. Insurance and hospitals pass the cost on BECAUSE they are mandated to do so BY FORCE because they have to service everyone under law.
And no I don't think people should be able to fly into Ohare from Pakistan with tuberculosis and immediately run to the US ER and get free care.
How about the seemingly unchallenged lie that he is a Constitutional Scholar?! Apparently at Chicago University if you teach a class with more than 3 students for more than 3 hours, you become a Scholar. If he's a scholar on the subject of the Constitution then I'm the King of Siam.
When is somone going to come forward and expose this fraud?
Tell that to the thousands of delinquent dads that are now in prison because they can't make child support payments.
Perhaps you should look up where it says in the constitution the fed can force an ER to provide service to everyone who comes through the door. Care to show us that passage?
well you seem to be in favor of forcing everyone else to pay for their coverage.
They will be in charge of health care when they essentially put insurance out of business. When the gov provides a tax paid service that is free to the user vs the user paying their own way, the insurance company cannot compete. It goes under. Then the gov moves in. Even progressives have said this IS the path to single payer.
Wait. Weiner said the IRS was not involved in the mandate. Is someone lyin!?
So, you fail to understand. When I don't have insurance, I don't get to pass on my bill to someone else . No, I get to pay the whole damn thing myself. You know, with fees, interest, etc.
So, could you explain for me, please, how "not having insurance" is the same as forcing other people to pay? Having insurance puts the bill into the pool. Not having insurance means the damn bill is mine and mine alone.
yeah, I heard of that Joe Wilson and his wife Valerie Plame. I also know that they outted themselves AND both lied.
Under the general welfare "clause" the government is charged with providing FOR the general welfare, not providing the general welfare. It's mandate is not to maintain the general welfare but to promote it as in teaching people to be self sufficient rather than dependent on government handouts.
They really are grabbing at straws to keep their mandate. That's for sure. Ultimately it is NOT in the federal government's powers to require people to purchase a product they they will in turn tax. If the government were to deem this mandate a tax then they should in no way be able to collect any tax thereafter on that purchase.
And WHY are the forced to pay? Government creates the forced pay system so it creates the problem.
So am I so lets stop the gov forcing us to pay for other's health care. Sounds like a good plan.
When his minions in congress loose their majority he will not be steamrolling anything. There will be plenty of time for golf after that. However I fully expect he will go in to campaign mode for the next two years probably blaming what's left of the democrats for steamrolling the people against his wishes.
The trick is they were and are still shooting for universal health care. In their minds this was simply phase one. Initially they were trying to create a government insurance program and THEN mandate that everyone buy the government insurance. As it is they had to bribe three "representatives" to "secure" enough votes to pass the health care "reform" bill despite how unpopular it was with the people. Obama and his lackeys all figured we will learn to like it so it didn't matter how we felt about it at the moment.
Hopefully, it only worked that well for FDR because the dissemination of information was much slower in those days. These days, we can know instantly what's going on and he hasn't moved to overtly control the media … yet.
And thanks to the three bribes, they aren't applying their taxes and fees evenly which is also supposed to be unConstitutional.
Remember, Kids, this is why the cool kid seldom goes very far after high school …
Then after the illegals, factor in the amounts the government underpays for services for Medicare and Medicaid patients. That can't be small, either.
Know the difference between a simple democracy and America, as it was always intended to be, a Constitutional Republic. Start using the correct term as OFTEN as you can.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Constitutional_Repub...
Government can't 'pay' for anything. They can only take from the taxpayers and redistribute it. This is not a difficult concept to understand.
It also means that we don't want the government throwing hurdles at us in form of ridiculous mandates, outrageous taxes and penalties. I thought since you can type, you had at least half a brain. I guess I was mistaken.
You are sure hung up on the childhood fictional figures. Is that really the only analogy you can comprehend?
Ever wonder why some people who care about their lawns so much burn the entire yard?
To get rid of all of the crap killing it and start anew.
This is exactly what needs to be done with our Federal Government and many State Governments.( I know,I know, the Secret Service will call this post a threat.
Threatening the White House lawn is probably what they'll get from ths rant. lol – Punishable by twice the going rate for a triple murder).Probably not too far off am I?
The corruption,sellouts,traitors,idealogues,cesspool,poltical puppets,and bacteria are far too embedded to the core and is spreading faster than hollywood's
pop culture wh*res. (i.e. Gaga,Britney,Paris,Lohan,etc.)They are pieces of the America destroying machine.
We are beyond repair and have been for a decade or more,but some are FINALLY pulling their head from the sand and accepting the fact – IT CAN and IS HAPPENING HERE.
The traitors (Media,Education,Unions,Dems(real name – communists),White House,LaRaza,ACLU,CAIR,Affirmative Action, and roughly 200 other well funded groups are trying to destroy
us from within.Get in,get power,and change the system.Can't do it militarily so do it with money,time,guilt,and laws.
They have turned our lives upside down,(wrong is right,right is wrong,criminals and minorities advance now for no other reason other than they are a minority,
work hard and pay penalties,sit on your ass and get rewarded,be responsible and u will pay for your irresponsible neighbor,be dumb or bad and get a bailout,etc)
Time to Return the Favor People.
I pray that the enemies who have come out the closet,drew guns and a line in the sand will awaken a sleeping giant – hard working,honest,no bs,respectable,peaceful,
common sense,informed,U.S.A. and capitalism loving,gun and bible toting True Patriot Americans.WE ARE THE MAJORITY so why are we allowing the country to be ran for
minorities and outside countries who want us to be a 3rd world country?
Does anyone other than me question the integrity of Novs elections already?The commies are so damn blatantly arrogant with their agenda they must have a back up plan,connections,don't care,or
are just too stupid to see that THEY WILL PAY A POLITICAL PRICE.Dont gimme that conspiracy BS either.I mean everyday there's open corruption,lawlessness,a new attack on America,
Patriots,Children,Taxation,New Legislation to bypass or chip away at the Constitution,more political correctness and social justice BS,etc.
Acorn for 1 example is pretty big and well funded.(thanks to us fyi)Its not too hard to come up with a new name.How many other Acorns you think are out there?
Not buying that.Ok well in todays hypercharged political atmosphere how many people do you think have a price?What if the money supply for corruption was endless?
Now that the gloves are off they will do whatever it takes to hold power.Ends justify the means.This means NOTHING IS OFF LIMITS AND ANYTHING GOES.For those that havent been in a
street fight you'd better learn quick because that's what you're in whether you want to accept it or not.If you don't you'll just wake up in a dark alley saying wth happened?What happened was
you were too nice,too trusting, and got jumped when you least expected it.Good luck getting your belongings back.
How about amnesty to buy another 20 million votes? Like the stimulus,bailouts and health care bill.Those are paybacks for votes.They have absolutely nothing to do with the economy or to better
health care for people.
Its not 12 million illegals as they say.Any number the government gives you its safe to double it,unless of course they say the people will get something then divide by 2
and subtract % 50 off that and there's your real number.Of course I'm right.Look at their 30 year track record.
In closing if you can't see this country is in serious trouble then you might as well be a worthless flaming libtard yourself because being stupid,naive,lazy, or in denial is
just as dangerous to America as those that are destroying it.YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.INFORM YOURSELF and THEN EVERYONE YOU KNOW OF THE REAL AGENDA THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES.
The difference now is they believe all the foundation pieces of their America hating transformer are in place and they're striking.
All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.Think of your loved ones and their kids.You owe it to them to do the right thing.
Most are still frogs in boiling water unfortunately and it's so sad to have a front row seat witnessing the raping of our country and knowing that everyday I am around
the very reasons that helped to enable such a travesty.
I know most True Patriots are concerned and or angry as am I.So you can either get some friends together with pitchforks and torches or just spread true info.When people finally see
they will Thank you.Info is power and since they have the media in their pocket and millions glued to the propaganda box it's critical we the people pass the truths amongst each other rapidly
and relentlessly and vote accordingly.
Well, of course he's a Liar.
A) War is the continuation of politics by other means. ~~ Carl von Clausewitz
B) If A = B, B = A. Thus, it is also true that POLITICS IS WAR.
C) War is Deception. ~~ Muhammad (Tabari 8:23)
D) Therefore, POLITICS IS DECEPTION.
E) Barack Obama is the consummate Politician. He Eats, Drinks, and Smokes POLITICS. He Breathes POLITICS.
F) Therefore, Obama is the consummate Deceiver.
Q. E. D.
Yup. If they're a politician and they have a (D) after their name, there's a 99.998% chance that they are lying. An (R) is about a 50% chance, maybe a little less.
Q. When is a Mandate not a Mandate? A. When it's a Tax!
Obama and his O-bot lackeys think that words (and reality, for that matter) are made of Silly Putty. A is A until is is politically expedient for it to be Z, at which point Obama will not only say that A is Z, he will indignantly claim that he has always maintained that A is Z, and any statements to the contrary that he made in the past are being unfairly taken out of context by racist partisans who are only seeking political advantatage for the benefit of Nefarious, Repulsive Elites. Following that, he will modestly compare his non-partisan good intentions to the evil schemes of his opponents, whose steadfast purpose is to resurrect George W. Bush, or if not the man, at the very least Bush’s destructive policies.
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And to think of the generations of corrupt politicians, and of course your formula works in an almost universal fashion in this regard, who have gotten off scott-free with telling one crowd one thing and another crowd something entirely different, by virtue of a lazy or conspiratorial media, it is not hard to understand how the government has gotten so totally effed up.
Today with digital technology (internet + consumer recording and communication tech) these scum bag liars (politicians) have not quite caught on yet that the rules have changed.
Sites like this and activist citizen journalists give me a hope I never thought I would enjoy.
not to mention "quisling!" Dude, we feel your pain.
Medical care is not a public service but an option, like the food you buy, car you drive or the means by which you entertain yourself. You can choose to but these services or not as no one can force you. The only thing Obamacare does is ensures someone will get health care on your dime, using the argument that you'll get something out of it as well.
PLEASE GO TO AMERICANSPECTATOR.COM. READ 'AMERICA'S RULING CLASS' BY ANGELO CODEVILLA. THE ARTICLE PROVIDES A GREAT DEAL OF INSIGHT INTO WHO IS RUNNING OUR COUNTRY AND THEIR INTENTIONS. WE CAN FIGHT BACK AND WE OUT NUMBER THEM. WE NEED ONLY TO TURN THE TABLE ON THEM.
Hey, HuskersLoveBo you dumbass, do you think somehow that by the magic of obama that overcharging us and using our tax money to pay for those who can't or won't pay for themselves somehow looks like a deal or a bargain? We already know that we pay for uninsureds through higher prices, and we also know that it is much better than o'dumbo taking our money, charging us more, and doing the same thing, except everyone gets shitty care. I'm still waiting for your silver lining. Come on, we'll wait for you to take off your socks so you can use your magic abacus to explain it all.
I notice that you didn't credit the citizenry with being any smarter. I don't know if that was intentional or not,,,but it was probably wise. Let us pray that our advanced technology is sufficient to turn the tide. It's all going to be up to God, the internet and our anger.
This just underscores the fundamentally dishonest character of Obama. We have become accustomed to this man's dishonesty. He is the Deceiver in Chief!
I see. So who do you think is paying for it now.
No. It is something that you can understand. I understand there is no such thing as a free lunch. This concept is from the first day at Econ 101. A course you have obviously never taken.
Get a life. Very few fathers are thrown in jail for failing to pay child support. The reason that some of them spend time in jail is that they are violating a court order, not that they owe money. Now go read the Constitution.
If you do not have insurance, chances are, society will pick up the tab.
Your post misses the point of why we oppose Obamacare. It's not that conservatives don't want solutions, just not those that affect the many to the benefit of a few. There are more sensible ways to guarantee that those at most risk have access to affordable healthcare without 2,700 pages of legislation, BMI tracking, Revenue agents arresting non-compliant taxpayers and the rest of the command and control structure that is being foisted upon us. We know we're paying those bills now in one way or another. I'd be willing to bear a small increase in my FICA taxes to help subsidize a program that applied only to those most in need. It seems silly that 300 million people should change their entire way of thinking for the benefit of 15 million.
So my good lefty, that is what our opposition is about.
Why do self-identified seniors like to type in all caps? Is it because they may be hard of hearing and need to shout?
You seem to have the desire to be a conservative in your complaint about being tired of paying for others medical bills. I have found a few points that need correction, though. The government is involved with health insurance even though the individual mandate was not included. Obama's promise that we could keep our insurance was a bit of smoke and mirrors. If your insurance makes any changes to your coverages you will be forced into changing plans to one that meets the governments new guidelines.The new guidelines are much more inclusive in nature of coverage and will cost you more to cover the additional coverages. That will be an increased burden to the taxpayers. So the government is going to be involved in our choices. The massive tax increases and rollbacks in tax cuts that are coming will not increase the governments coffers, but will result in less money coming in as businesses and individuals find ways to avoid paying higher taxes. That will also result in less money being given to charitable causes, many of which help those who can't pay for medical costs in the form of assistance paying their bills. That will result in a higher burden to the taxpayers. When you force someone to be charitable they will not give more than they are required to. When that contribution is rewarded with tax breaks, or not demanded, people will give more. The framers of the constitution did not want the government to be involved with taking care of the needs of the people. That is what families, churches, civic groups, etc. are for. Also people on welfare do not go to the doctors office, they go to the ER because they don't have any responsibility to pay the bill. That results in higher costs to the whole welfare system. We need to be able to tell them that some things are not serious enough for the ER and that they need to see a doctor for the care of minor illnesses/injuries. Personal responsibility is what we do not have enough of today.
Unfortunately, the mandate is only the tip of the iceberg. We will be paying more to provide additional coverages to the vast millions that will receive more benefits than they currently enjoy, as well as the 15-20 million more that are uninsured ( a great majority of them illegals). We will be getting charged more for our own insurance as mandated coverages increase. The huge bureaucracy that will be requires to run this sham with cost billions and those who provide care, such as doctors, will receive less money, resulting in less choosing that profession and more retiring younger or quitting for a more lucrative career. The cost of insurance could be addressed through removal of restrictions on the free markets, resulting in more competition and a broader base to share the risks resulting in lower premiums and more affordability. It should be a choice, not a mandate for health care coverages.
There are a lot of dads in prison and failing a court order that says "pay now" is essentially being thrown in jail. Yes fathers are in jail because they can't pay the bill.
Again you didn't answer the question. Where does it say in the constitution the fed can mandate that ERs service anyone who comes in regardless if they can pay?
You need to read the constitution.
Read my post. People who cannot pay should have their major medical provided as a cost to society. Unless we just want to step over dead bodies on our way to work.
I'd be willing to pay for life threatening care for people, but they can buy their own damn birth control and cold medicine.
Too funny. Like I'd believe that the government went through all this trouble, threw democrats under the bus, twisted arms, made shady deals for votes and used a flimsy rule to pass it through congress and then won't get involved in the insurance end? Hahahaha.
Damn, what planet do you live on?
Follow the money and the power. It all leads to insurance control.
Scooter was holding out for a glimpse of Obama's birth certificate, which doesn't exist.
Ah … folks. The entire Obamacare law is unconstitutional. Not just the mandate for individuals to buy a certain product. Furthermore, the WAY it was rammed through—with CBO lying left and right, Obama lying left and right, Congress lying left and right, people openly voting for a bill they haven't read, the bribes given to "Blue dog Dems", the Slander of Tea Party, the buying of Brown vote, any single once of those should be enough to put these criminals in front of a firing squad, forget incarceration. I think it is a mistake to go after merely the "individual mandate to buy" …. they should attempt a much more ambitious, and hence much safer, lawsuit—of treason, along with a thousand other infarctions of laws AND of Constitution. If the Scotus is sane enough to declare even one of them valid a point, Obamacare, along with much of Obama machine will be history. Why go after a finger when you can go after every bodypart including the jugular? Maybe they are thinking it would be quicker to just concentrate on one thing. I hope they are better lawyers than I am an observer. But it is very easy for the Leftist to start calling the government mandate to buy a "voluntary moral imperative initiative" and simply brush off the SCOTUS. I still don't understand. Even if the SCOTUS strikes down the whole Obamacare legislation, who is going to enforce the SCOTUS decision? The Justice Deparment? Yeah right. What will prevent them from doing what they did with the double judicial defeat of their 'moratorium on drilling' …? What has, or what CAN the judiciary do about that, let alone about Obamacare? The judiciary HAS no enforcement arm. What is to prevent Obama, through sebelius, declaring the whole (hopefully) defeated Obamacare as 'regulation' of Health and Human Services? What if even that is struck down, and Sebelius, next day issues the same 2300 pages with a few words changed here and there? I think we are pursuing a mirage there–except for the political fallout of such a Scotus decision, there is nothing to be gained there. And political fallout is useful only if we assume the tyrants are preparing to give us a free and open election. Just too much confidence in the goodness of heart of the enemy, methinks.
I know libs hate facts, but here are a few anyway.
Revenues in the 5 years after the Bush tax cuts exceeded the 5 years prior by 43%. (It's called the Laffer curve.)
38% of Bush's deficits came in the last 2 years of his presidency when Democrats controlled congress.
President O'Bama has more than tripled Bush's deficits.
Conservatives don't like Bush because he wasn't fiscally conservative enough.
Part – 1 Barak Obama and Hilary Clinton,The Bilderberg Group, are war mongering to start World War III with Iran! American and Iraeli ships are sitting off-shore of Iran, Sabre rattling and war mongering, to the orders of Obama, Hilary Clinton and the Global Elitist Bilderberg Group!
They are also Expanding the war with Pakistan greatly!
A former senior advisor to President Bill Clinton says that the only thing which can rescue Barack Obama’s increasingly tenuous grip on power as his approval figures continue to plunge is a terror attack on the scale of Oklahoma City or 9/11, another startling reminder that such events only ever serve to benefit those in authority.
Buried in a Financial Times article about Obama’s “growing credibility crisis” and fears on behalf of Democrats that they could lose not only the White House but also the Senate to Republicans, Robert Shapiro makes it clear that Obama is relying on an October surprise in the form of a terror attack to rescue his presidency.
Part 2 – “The bottom line here is that Americans don’t believe in President Obama’s leadership,” said Shapiro, adding, “He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence and, short of a 9/11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can’t think of how he could do that.”
Shapiro’s veiled warning should not be dismissed lightly. He was undersecretary of commerce for economic affairs dung Clinton’s tenure in the Oval Office and also acted as principal economic adviser to Clinton in his 1991-1992 campaign. Shapiro is now Director of the Globalization Initiative of NDN and also Chair of the Climate Task Force. He is a prominent globalist who has attended numerous Bilderberg Group meetings over the past decade.
Complete article at: http://my.auburnjournal.com/detail/154412.html
Two minute Newsclip – TWO Party Paradyne System News clip: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2824363/the_obama_d...
The reasons why, we must vote out, Establishment Government Representatives, whether they are Left or Right – Incumbent or Candidate!
Make sure they do not belong to any of the Global Elitist Organizations: Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, Club of Rome, Skull and Bones, Canadian Council of Chief Executives,
Harvard Elite Players, Goldman Sachs, International Monetary Fund, The United Nations, World Health Organization, World Trade Organization.
The reason we must vote out Establishment Government Representatives whether they are Left or Right, Incumbent or Candidate is explained on this 2 minute News Clip below:
TWO Party Paradyne System News clip: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2824363/the_obama_d...
Also keep in mind, to be finally free of the Globalists, Americans' will have to end the Federal Reserve!
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