De-Fund Holder’s Manhattan Transfer
by Ken Blackwell and Ken KlukowskiEx-White House counsel Greg Craig thought it was a good idea to transfer Elián Gonzalez from the arms of his loving family in Miami into the arms of Fidel Castro. Transfer Elián from Florida to Cuba. Bad idea. Attorney General Janet Reno thought she might have to prove her toughness by transferring dozens of women and children from a Waco cult headquarters to eternity. Really bad idea.
But Eric Holder’s plan to transfer Khalid Sheikh Mohammed from Guantánamo Bay to Manhattan for a civilian trial is perhaps liberals’ worst idea in years. KSM and his cohorts had agreed to plead guilty before a military tribunal, accept a sentence of death, and speedily rendezvous with their 72 ladies-in-waiting.
This offer of an efficient way out for the administration was not good enough for Attorney General Eric Holder. He insists on trying the terrorists before a civilian jury in federal court, just a few hundred yards from Ground Zero. Next to martyrdom and a free trip to paradise, this has to be the terrorists’ wildest dream.
No turbaned genie ever appeared out of Aladdin’s lamp to grant three greater wishes than these. KSM to Genie: One, I want to exploit my status as mass-murdering terrorist; Two, I want to inflict even greater pain and suffering on the families of those thousands whom I’ve murdered; Three, I want to make my trial a magnet for my brother jihadists throughout the world.
Of course, it’s always possible that this whole transfer could go without incident. But why in the world would anyone take such an utterly reckless risk, going from swift and sure justice on a military base in a foreign country, to an unpredictable gamble on our own shores, surrounded by civilians in our largest city?
Eric Holder’s decision to try the terrorists in Manhattan may not be simply the worst decision of this administration, it bids fair to stand with Dred Scott and Roe v. Wade as being among the worst decisions in American history.
Congress has the power to prevent this farce from going forward. Congress must spare us this travesty. Phyllis Schlafly has reminded us—serious student of the Constitution that that she is—that Congress has the power to restrict the appellate jurisdiction of the federal judiciary. Very true. But Congress has a power that would provide even more immediate relief: That power is the power of the purse.
We need to move quickly to deny Mr. Holder’s Justice Department any federal funds to transfer or try any of the Guantánamo detainees apart from military tribunals. President Obama is on record as approving those military tribunals. As a senator in 2006, he even voted for the measure that established those tribunals. Of course, he is now on record backing up his besieged attorney general.
We would actually be doing Mr. Obama a favor by having Congress override his hasty and reckless attorney general. I think the president would secretly heave a sigh of relief if Congress would prevent this gross error from going forward.
It’s vitally important that the people’s representatives speak on this point. It’s why we have checks and balances.
It’s ironic. The president—as commander-in-chief of the military—would have enormous discretion to handle this situation as he saw fit if the Defense Department retained custody of these terrorists. But by transferring them to the Justice Department, this becomes a domestic issue outside President Obama’s commander-in-chief power, giving Congress the upper hand in deciding how to proceed.
We should have a good chance of prevailing on a cutoff of federal funds for civilian trials of terrorists. How many members of Congress would relish the prospect of having to explain on the campaign trail next year why they voted to spend a minimum of $75 million a year on security for the New York show trials? Voters will especially object when they realize that Guantánamo Bay was built with taxpayer funds for precisely such trials. We’d have good prospects of winning on such a proposition. But even if we don’t carry this amendment, we would certainly have a vote that would be of intense interest to American voters as they approach the 2010 elections next fall
The ins and outs of the health care debate, cap-and-trade, and the stimulus require voters to pay the strictest attention as lawmakers wade through numerous 2,000+-page legislative behemoths. But an up-or-down vote on Holder’s Manhattan Transfer has a marvelous clarity. Let’s get clear.
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The Muslims have run out of virgins. Please let them know.
Can't wait for the circus.
This Admin. has no shame. We will make them pay, lame-duck 'Bama for the last two years and then OUT!
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Actually, Freddie, I read a version of the koran/quaran and couldn't find any reference to having virgins in heaven. In fact I heard that muslims cannot execute a virgin, so they rape them first.
Whose really on trial here? Proof positive that if you give a liberal enough rope they'll just hang themselves.
Related parodies, including "Foreign Terrorists Win Citizens' Right to Federal Court Trial After Targeting Their 3,000th Civilian":
http://optoons.blogspot.com/search/label/national...
With the current balance of power being tilted toward the extreme left, Congress will never buck Holder on his decision. After all, there is the need to bring Bush and Cheney to trial…just sayin…
Someone with this much hatred and pure ugliness would ONLY get 72 virgins to hurl on him! That being said, if anything happens on American soil-the libtards have basically LOST all 2010 elections. As for the libtards in office-and the 10.2% unemployment rate-hopefully you won't qualify! Because if you're insubordinate to your employer(The American people)-you're denied unemployment monies.
I think it was Family Guy (or maybe American Dad) that showed a muslim being greeted in heaven by 72 virgins…
They were all geeky (male) nerds playing Everquest on their laptops….
I've never laughed so much!
I think it was Family Guy (or maybe American Dad) that showed a muslim being greeted in heaven by 72 virgins…
They were all geeky (male) nerds playing Everquest on their laptops….
I've never laughed so much!
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I think the president would secretly heave a sigh of relief if Congress would prevent this gross error from going forward.
Um, have you met our President?
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How many of you would sit on this jury and have your family placed in protective custody for the rest of their lives along with your great grandchildren that have yet to be born?
It is time to look at the reality of the ramifications that Eric Holder’s decision made to try the terrorists in Manhattan. This is beyond being stupid it is a only a decision one would make if they had a hidden agenda that is supported by this President.
The raping part is correct, in some instances. As for the passage; 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a." Vol. IV, Chapters on "The Features of Heaven as described by the Messenger of Allah", ch. 21 "About the Smallest Reward for the People of Heaven", hadith 2687.
Personally, I'll take 1 impure woman who knows what she is doing over 72 to whiny first timers.
ha, brilliant.
I'm sorry, but they didn't plead guilty:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7770856.stm
These people deserve to rot in hell, but either they're enemy soldiers (and tried according to the Geneva convention), or civilians (and tried in civilian courts).
I think the notion that the President was not involved in this decision is absurd on its face. Note, all he said on the matter was it wasn't "his decision." He did nothing to correct, didn't say anything about it one way or another except to be able to distance himself from it. He does this with all things, because it's impossible to nail jell-o to the wall, and he doesn't want to be tied to any policy or move by his (note: HIS) administration.
He is not a leader, but a follower.
Who he follows is the truly scary part.
Beyond not being able to get a fair trial because I am sure everyone that knows about this will claim being racist-the case will tossed out of court. This case will go NOWHERE in this country! Even if it does and the jury are all of this "pigs" nationality- it won't be a fair trial. By the way, I am NOT racist. But-everyone no matter what nationality they are get CREDIT-good or bad for what they do! I won't cover up or gloss over for anyone-NOT even my daughters father! You make your bed-you sleep in it!
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More to the point, he is the ultimate arrogant anarchist convinced that if we'll just "burn it down" we can remake it in his image. Or at least in the image of his many mentors.
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"Of course, it’s always possible that this whole transfer could go without incident. But why in the world would anyone take such an utterly reckless risk, going from swift and sure justice on a military base in a foreign country, to an unpredictable gamble on our own shores, surrounded by civilians in our largest city?"
Reminds me of Austin Powers…
'I'm going to place them in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death', 'I will not actually witness them dying, I'll just assume it all wentto plan'. When offering to get a gun from his room and kill them himself, Scott is told he 'just doesn't get it'.
De-fund the transfers? Then Barry will have to send little Timmy down to the basement to crank some more tens of millions of play money off the Magic Money Press. Although for such a tiny amount it might be found forgotten on the floor somewhere.
Of course there are always the spare stimulus funds, just think of the hundreds of saved or created jobs that could come from this. Why after all the fire and ambulance crews rush to NYC to help out again, that could count as many thousands of jobs! Things are really looking up for the US under Barry's leadership!
Going up up up like massive plumes of smoke…
Has Holder already contacted the appropriate ACORN affiliate to check on hiring local people for security work (no citizenship check required)? Or will he just give the contract to SEIU, given their sterling reputation for excellent crowd control?
Who said the 72 virgins were women?
If Holder and Obama have their way it will be the Bush administration.
Apparently they don't realize the planning for 9/11 took place during the Clinton administration. Unless they purposely want to drag the Clinton team through all this too. I wouldn't put it past them.
Agreed.
By claiming Obama did not make the decision he's simply voting present again.
What puzzles me is why Holder would risk his entire future on this gamble? Because if this blows up, he's finished. No democrat would go near him again. Does he really worship Obama enough to agree to take any arrows for this?
Technically correct, but the did notify the military that's exactly what they were planning to do when their tribunal started. The plea itself is not official until a court or tribunal accept it.
Even if they did, all they have to do is tell the civil court judge they were coerced, and out the window it would have gone anyway.
NO virgins in America anymore….unless you want to enjoy a nice lengthly vacation in the "big house"..
Just curious… How many "WATERLOO'S" can one president have ??
Obama is a Muslim. He wants these terrorists to go free. He already has given the defense ammunition for this with his saying they will be found guilty. Why is it so hard for people to see he hates this country and is deliberately destroying the economy. He would have to be the dumbest man on earth to not see what he is doing is killing the economy. What does Bin Laden want to do? Destroy the American economy. He has said this. What is Obama doing? Destroying the economy. I guess the reality of what this man really is can't be accepted by most people. It is horrible but it is true.
Holder is an empty-suited partisan hack in the tank for Obama and the far left. I don't believe at all that he's a rogue AG; he's in this with Obummer all the way. He'll just take the fall if their gamble fails. BTW, I don't foresee KSM standing trial until after the 2012 elections. Obumble does want to be reelected, after all.
I agree with your assessment of Holder, and that's what puzzles me about this. When push comes to actual shove, they're usually more interested in self preservation than going down with the ship.
He's risking everything by agreeing to take the fall if necessary. Why? I find it hard to believe he thinks its the right, honorable thing to do.
I can't believe that we are even talking about this. This says more about Obama's adminstration than he can say in his entire 4 years in office. This "circus trial" should make every American sick to thier stomach!!
Can anyone tell me how Holder has any jurisdiction on enemy combatants that are being held offshore. Gitmo is a military base and jurisdiction should be under the Judge Advocate General and not the Attorney General correct? He has stated it was His only decision to bring KSM to NYC. Since when does the Attorney General have powers over our Military? Obama is pulling the strings on this one. Jury of twelve 4 NYPD, 4 NYFD and 4PAPD! Hold this trial at Shea or Yankee stadium on BAT DAY!
A plea to our Air Force. Please when you take Obama to Nopenhagen please leave Him there.
"Withholding payment of taxes is one of the quickest methods of overthrowing a government." – Gandhi
I don't think we really need to find out……………….;>}
I know. I'm perplexed myself. Unless they stack the jury, it's hard to get a death penalty in NYC. Of course, since I also believe that Obama is a Muslim, they are not allowed to kill other Muslims, so maybe he's going after a life sentence. But I agree with those who feel that both he and Holder were trying to taint the jury pool by claiming that KSM would be convicted and put to death. I think they're gambling on this one, especially if KSM gets off on a technicality, and the script will be written that it's all Bush/Cheney's fault. At least, that's the outcome I think they envision.
Obama's not a Muslim. He may or may not consider himself a Christian, but he's not a traditional Christian. But he's not a Muslim. The only reason I think that rumor still has legs is because the biased MSM keeps a spot light on it so they can chuckle and say 'oh, those crazy Bible thumping red necks.' I don't know a whole lot about Islam, but it doesn't come across to me as a religion one would even think to consider hiding.
I don't think stacking a jury is even possible in the current judicial system, especially in a population the size of NYC. You might be able to pull it off in a tiny town, but in MY we use a lottery system, and it's been five years, so my name should be be coming back up soon. I've never been on a jury, I have been dismissed just before a trail started once. But I despise the idea that a Judge can tell me to be somewhere at a certain time, or I go to jail.
As for me, I don't see how this could ever make it to a jury. He was not read his rights, he was not given access to an attorney, he was not given a speedy trail, he can claim enhanced interrogation as cruel and unusual punishment, plus who knows what else the ACLU can come up with. They'll have a field day with this. If this were any other case, he'd walk on opening motions.
In order to allow this thing (notice I did not say trial, that's not an accident) to proceed to a jury, the Judge will have to rule that the all those civil rights do not apply to a defendant in the federal court system.
That's precedent. That means the federal government can do it to We The People too.
That's what worries me.
Here is a link to it~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOfp0LHtpV0
Verey funny.
Barry has already "tainted" not only the jury pool, but the entire trial………………he long ago said that KSM is guilty and that he WILL ( ROTFLMSO ) get the death penalty. For any other "felon", that alone is caused for dismissal.
Holder does NOT have the power, nor the authority to remove KSM from military hands, nor to say where he and the others will be tried.
Gates does NOT have the authority, nor the power to hand over a military prisoner, captured during a war, to a civilian court.
THE ONLY PERSON, ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH, WITH THE POWER AND AUTHORITY, TO DO ANY OF THIS, IS THE CIC/PRESIDENT; AS ENUMERATED IN OUR CONSTITUTION !
They are NOT enemy soldiers as recognized by the Geneva Convention, because that would require Al Quaeda to be a SIGNATORY to the convention, which they are not.
Nor are they civilians.
So, guess again.
You'll get no argument from me on the narcissism angle. What scares me is the emotional, 5-year-old, vitriol he has for Bush. That's the only explanation for this trial decision that even APPROACHES anything that could be confused with logic. From a military standpoint, it's dangerous, at best. From a legal standpoint, it's without precedent, and fails simple logic tests. From a domestic standpoint, it spits in the face of the survivors of that horror, and benefits only the accused [by giving them a soapbox to spew from]. From a fiscal standpoint, it borders on idiocy [all the extra money it will cost to secure the city and courtroom] and I think that's being generous. And also note, it costs us… that money does not come from Barry's pocket [though he gives the impression that he thinks so]. There's not one argument, with the exception of publically trying the Bush Doctrine, that holds up to a simple test of the mind.
"There are no contradictions. If you think you're faced with one, check your premises." -Rand
Let Captain Kirk go where no man has gone before.
If that court house goes up in flames, it will seriously impact all democrats for some time to come.
I think the answer to 95% of our problems is solved with that one word "Defund" no money, no problem or at least a lot fewer
Agreed… Couldn't be more right on the money. Those left wing loonies want Bush and Cheney.
Maybe if Obama didn't have such a large majority of left wing nuts filling the seats of both houses, the premise of this article would be plausible. I would not have the juevos to actually write a serious article about it given the current circumstances.
Maybe it was a rhetorical question and maybe the answer will depress you a bit.. A lot of people are intimidated by the administration and the political correctness crowd. If you speak out and say KSM should have gone to the tribunal then you're intolerant, a racist, and a bigot. And that goes for whenever you oppose the left. A lot of people don't want to go through with that. Besides, look at Obama's power, his control of both houses. They just feel it is hopeless. There is nothing to fight for and win against. You can rail against congress but in the end they have the votes to do WHATEVER they want. So why bother. Sad, isn't it.. but guys like you and me, this only makes us want to wake more people up. Talk to your friends, acquaintances. You'll find a lot of them personally don't believe in Obama's policies anymore. Now, if we can just translate that to not believing in Obama himself..
”All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.” – Thomas Jefferson
It smells of a pipe dream to me too.
As many as he wants because the left is always right, no left…
Holding trial for the blind sheek in New York is for sure a terrible idea for many reasons. However, I think Reno still holds the trophy for her part in the Waco massacre.
Wait until he finds out that included in this 72 virgin mix are:
Stretch PELOSI
Legs on upside down CLINTON
New York's BELLA ABZUG
Margaret ALLBRIGHT
Homeland's NAPOLITANO and
CINDY SHEHAN !
The poor bastard !
Our AG makes Homer Simpson look like a genius. DOH!
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I will volunteer to personally fund and carry out the transfer of the gitmo gang to manhattan…head first from 30,000 ft and hand-cuffed with bacon.