You Don’t Need a Washington Task Force to Understand the Middle Class
by Joe 'The Plumber' WurzelbacherIt was kind of hard to stop laughing when I read that Joe Biden is leading a Task Force to study what’s on the mind of middle class Americans. Give me a break.
It would be funny if it were not so sad that those in Washington need a special commission to figure out what America thinks. How can we be represented in the first place if the people we hired to carry our hopes and fears are so clueless?
Here’s my suggestion Mr. Biden—take a trip to any town or city and sit down for an early breakfast in a coffee shop. Stop talking long enough to listen. Try a barber or beauty shop for the same lesson. Have a beer in a tavern. The key here, Mr. Biden—and all you folks from Washington, D.C. who have become so frightened that people are expressing their independent will at the polls—is to stop pontificating long enough to actually hear what we are saying.
Here’s another clue that could save us all the cost of a task force to find out (what you really should already know)—we don’t like being lied to about the size of the national debt or the fact that you have been taxing coming generations of Americans to secure more loans from foreign countries today. We know that you are mortgaging our future, so just admit it. Admit that spending our money gets you elected.
Try telling us the truth about the influence of lobbyists on public policy. Start with the indecipherable and unimaginably corrupted tax code. Be honest about Congress selling off two or three pieces of the tax code every day they’ve been in session for the last 25 years. Admit that the income tax system requires more than $300 billion a year from us just to fill out all the forms and obey the 67,500 pages of tax code regulations. Fess up that lobbyists spend more than $1.5 billion a year to get what they want for the aleardy rich and powerful from the House Ways and Means Committee–and that we end up paying the difference. Admit these are the reasons you hate the FairTax.
Maybe being truthful and actually listening will then lead you to the plain and obvious fact that we are mad as hell that you and the rest of the political class in Washington can barely disguise your contempt for those of us who live outside Washington . We lost a lot of our retirement savings in this economic meltdown because of government fumbling and a whole lot of us lost the jobs that we depend on to feed our families because you think raising money for government is more important than letting it work in the economy. We don’t think that cutting special deals with plaintiff lawyers, reluctant Senators, unions or big banks with our money just so you can buy their votes has helped us as much as it has helped you. And, for Pete’s sake, we don’t think that the answer to every problem we face is shifting more of our earnings to the 40% of the population who don’t pay any income taxes at all
Just for good measure you might explain again how wrong it was to ridicule those of us who clutch our “guns and bibles” and admit that the people you seem to so despise are the very same people who win our wars, build our cities and yes, pay your salary. Admit to us that you’ve spent too much time listening to others in Washington and too little time listening to us. Stop scheming and stop treating us like sheep that can be ever more efficiently sheared to advance your own ambitions.
If you really want to understand, however, what the middle class and most of the rest of us really think, go get some ham and eggs and save the money of the commission. I’m sure that we could make better use of those funds—another thing you need to come to understand.
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Crazy uncle Joe the Biden – kind of says it all. A heaping helping of dadumb, with a side of Salad-Tosser WOOPS!
CRF's goals are to dismantle the Middle Class – they have used "Free Trade" and a debt-based currency and war to achieve it.
Is Joe the Plumber running for congress or senate? If so, I'll be donating to him big time. We need more like him there.
Really? ………….He is really doing this? Three hours with a laptop and wi-fi and he'd have all the answers he needs. Might I recommend the BIG sites first, Mr. V.P.?
Wow, nicely put, Mr. W. That pretty much sums the whole mess up!
Joe the Plumber for Congress !—
Joe, right on – BO now wants to spend more than 1.6T that we don't have in his 2011 budget! (Yes he sure wants to reduce the deficit- what a crock!)
If any of us tried this in our business or personal life we would be in jail/and have no assets or a job!
Andy Stern and Anna Burger of SEIU have visited the White House a combined total of 57 times. Two conservative groups have requested an investigation by the US Attorney. I guess we'll see.
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Important point you left out, Joe…..Make sure you choose a coffee shop that hasn't been CLOSED for ten years, and has real people to talk to instead of figments of your imagination who just tell you how right you are!
joe…as long as you thing your excrement don't stink, you will never know that you shit your pants…..thats the world according to rik.
Isn't there a Ron Paul blog somewhere you would be more at home posting to?
Not everyone here guys this kookery you know and we tire of hearing it.
"The key here, Mr. Biden—and all you folks from Washington, D.C. who have become so frightened that people are expressing their independent will at the polls—is to stop pontificating long enough to actually hear what we are saying."
Exactly.
Nice commentary, Joe.
What common sense won't dictate, a Task Force will.
And where's the Task Force that is following up on Joe Biden's ask Force?
Yes, 57 times, one visit representing each state in the union. Or, well, you know, that's what obama said anyway.
Ok, so there are only 50 states in the US. But it's funny to note that there are 57 official "islamic" states around the globe. Go figure.
A commission will be needed to produce 'believable' results showing that the people want more government and a more socialist economic system. Then when the progressives in Washington vote in their agenda, they can say that they are only doing what the people want- look at the report we spent a few million on to prove it.
Just like the falsified global warming temperature data, the commission will find the results the government wants them to find.
Dhasselhoff, if you don't parrot the talking points and drip with vitriol then you're going to get little minus signs on your comment and HarryTurtle will keep posting his angst. Keep up the good work fighting against the left/right false paradigm that's shoved on us by mainstream media and hate radio jocks. I have a feeling the people flocking to this website will complain about "big government" until Republicans get power, then they'll turn their mighty powers of scorn against those who criticize their party while the Republicans continue on with BIG GOVERNMENT.
I meant to say Joe Biden's Task FARCE!
Ah, Joe the Plumber….another poor soul being used by the establishment like so many Tea Partiers marching to the beat of Fox News.
The fact that they think they need a "Task Force" to "understand the middle class" is proof positive that are totally clueless.
Wouldn't it be a better idea to form a commission that examines what's on the minds of those in Washington? Wouldn't Middle America like to read that report? I doubt that we'd find anyting shocking about what they are really thinking. But is sure would be a hoot to see it on paper.
An excerpt might look something like this:
Nancy Pelosi: "Dont they know that I'm the Queen!? I wonder what is the best way to corral them and push them off a cliff so that I can rule without interruption.(blink, blink, blink, blink, blink…)"
Barack Obama: "I wonder why they can't appreciate the delicate arugula leaf. How can I better explain the value of this vegetable so that the people will want it. It can't be that they don't want it. It must be that they don't understand why they should want it. I've got to hire some artists and teachers' union members to help me out with that. If we just start indoctrinating them early on, they will understand…"
Ummm, Joe Biden or Joe the Plumber? Hopefully you scatalogically mean the former.
There's a very easy way to have Congress keep in touch with AVERAGE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS………
TERM LIMITS………..
OR CONGRESSIONAL RETIREMENTS UNDER SOCIAL SECURITY………
OR CONGRESSIONAL HEALTHCARE UNDER MEDICARE……..
OR GOD FORBID…….OBAMACARE………
BUT CONGRESS DOESN'T WANT TO BE LIKE THE AVERAGE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICAN……..
AFTERALL…..
CONGRESS IS THE ELITE……
THE BEST OF THE BEST……
THE BRIGHTEST OF THE BRIGHT……
AND ON AND ON.
The government has no business trying to figure out the "class" of a person. By doing so it gives them the power to control all classes. It just shows that the government is too involved in our lives. Get out!
“Start by listening, because all too often the United States starts by dictating — in the past on some of these issues — and we don’t always know all the factors that are involved.” (President Obama, visiting and humbly apologizing in Europe, 2009)
Shouldn't Obama and Biden do an apology tour of America? Shouldn't they apologize for being so arrogant and stone hearted and mendacious?
Mr. Biden, all you had to do is come outside on 9/12 in DC and you could have found a few of us to talk to.
Great rebuttal, JPA. Your comment makes a lot of sense and really adds to the conversation. Thanks for your insight. Maybe some day us dimwit conservatives will be as smart as a lib like you…
This 'task force' balogna is just a way to keep the old fool busy and out of sight. His bobble head imitation during the SOTU bought his ticket to the boonies. Maybe while he is out there, he might bump into Hillary wasting away in Marginville.
Class warfare is the most powerful tool in the left's toolbox, at least for gaining power. The work camp and mass starvation are the most powerful tools after power is gained.
Joe the P, I have a toilet that needs fixing. You think you can do the job?
Everything you write shows you have absolutely no idea what conservative people believe or think and you definately do not understand what tea party people are fighting for. It's not about Fox News you dip, it's called living life and witnessing with your own eyes what the hell is happening all around you.
Yea, Joe the Plumber, or Joe the Biden?
A "commission" is defined as "we don't want to be held accountable", so we will pass the thing on to a "commission" who doesn't have any power to implement any of it's recommendations, but so what? A commission is a value-added jobs count and our Dear Leader heaven knows need a higher tally.. putchsa!<–In short– >spit!
"They" is whom? You forgot to mention the mortgage racket. Starting w/ Rubin in 1999. Frank & Co. in 2005 and again in 2006.
If there is one way to f*** over the lower middle class it is to give them loans which balloon for overpriced assets while having poor income sources and then make it impossible for them to seek protection in bankruptcy court.
Give that protection to the banks that sold them down the river.
That is what bleeding heart liberals consider passionate towards the middle class. But hey at least they once owned a house right. Now they are back to renting with a horrible credit score to boot.
Pure genius bro!
Of course Joe is right on the money, unfortunately for us, they hear us, they just do not care. The salary they receive from the tax payers is chump change up against what they get from special interest, unions and other well funded groups. Once elected they are fixed for life no matter how poorly they represent those who voted for them.
JPA, the lost Salad-Tosser Leftist. Can't stand the fact that we are off the couch to join the fight and take back the Republic. You are toast now that we are in the game.
To all the elite socialists…JUST LISTEN! Stop talking…JUST LISTEN!
It is time to break up the USA as it's apparent that it's too big to manage effectively. Those states that want to go blue, do it. Those that want red, fine. Check back in 20 years and we can compare and see who did better.
Why don't you know that Joe Biden is well-informed on the issues surrounding middle-class Americans? He keeps mentioning all the times he keeps going to Home Depot and Katie's Diner. (Of course, Katie's has been out of business for years, but that's never stopped him from prominently mentioning it whenever he's attempting to show how much he is in touch with 'the people'.)
Eat your own shit you Salad-Tossing Leftist Obamite.
Sorry, I was just trying to adopt the cynical, scornful tone in this place. Let me try again.
In my opinion, Joe the Plumber, while he may be a good representative of average middle-class people, was used by the McCain campaign to make Americans believe that McCain and the Republican establishment have the interests of the middle class in mind. The Democrats also use people in this manner. I believe that Joe the Plumber is still being used in this way, and that neither party is looking out for the middle class except to gather money and power.
You right-wing nuts fail to understand time and time again…it was your beloved leader G.W. Bush that got us all into this mess to begin with! The old model of "Republican tax cuts" and so forth is a failed model!! The definition of middle-class changes most of the time with new generations. Stop tagging yourselves with Conservative and Liberal, cuz I'm sure many of you have beliefs that fall into each label.
There's one thing on this middle class mind:
Scott Brown has still not been seated. Kirk is still voting. This is open violation of the law and the constitution. Is it going to take torches and pitchforks, to force these solons to obey the law and their own rules?
If that's the case your clerk better monitor the posts by TheFonz (and variants) and JohnnyKnoxs as it's the same poster shifting nyms.
All of Congress could have stepped out of the W.H. and read the tea party signs and knew what middleclass America thinks….they chose to ignore, then bash, then threaten, then add to their terrorist list…give me a break…biden was supposed to be watching every penny spent in the stimulus….how did that work out…..hate is going to grow for these people if they do not shut up.
Right on! But they view us with contempt and will never listen. This is a stunt and a diversion, nothing more.
Way to go Joe…..Well said!
We're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore!!
Or they could just read Dr. Frank Luntz's book "What Americans Really Want……Really" It gives a pretty good idea of what Americans are all about and what they want, not only government, but from business, religion, the future, etc. Very enlightening.
Isn’t it just hilarious! The Three Stooges run the gov – Moe = Oba-moa, Larry = Harry, and Curly = Joe the Biden. Can you her the theme song for the Three-Stooges when you think of them?
Well, I think many people who call themselves conservative are not really conservative. I think they are just swallowing the superficial idea of conservatism perpetrated by MSM and hate radio. Real conservatism means limited government all around, including foreign policy and social issues. The pseudoconservatives like to pick and choose which part of government is limited.
And tea party people? Did you even know that Tea Parties started well before Obama was in office? Yeah, I witness what's going on and it did not start with Obama and the Democrats.
Sure, toss out your labels and cliches. You're an excellent asset.
Nooooo, don't leave me hear in Leftist Californication — save me please…
Just curious, what have you witnessed around you, and if it didn't begin with the Democratic Congress, when exactly did it begin? Hate radio? Who are you listening to?
Better than coffee with breakfast someone invite him over for a nice cup of tea.
Tax cuts is not a failed model – do some economic homework please. Bush was part of the big problem but the sweet congress we have now pushed it over the cliff.
CRF?
Code of Federal Regulations?
Cardiovascular Research Foundation?
Chronic Renal Failure?
Case Report Form?
Can't Fucking Read?
What?
Sorry Joe, they need a task force to use the rest room, and another to wipe up afterwards.
God, what class and insight. You are one intelligent man, rikr. How old are you, 12?
Nice pic of Biden.
"It was THIS big!!" lol
Being a libtard troll is working quite well too.
AFTERALL….. CONGRESS IS THE ELITE…… THE BEST OF THE BEST……
THE BRIGHTEST OF THE BRIGHT…… AND ON AND ON.
In their own Minds!!…
Standard pose for all current politicians: Fingers plugged firmly into ears, eyes tightly closed, mouth moving to sing one long word: LALALALALALALAALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA! They will NEVER hear. Had the distinct pleasure of telling Sherrod Brown today that while he thnks he doesn't have to worry much til 2012, he needs to think again. OH yeah, he can hear us now, but he think he doesn't have to pay attention. Meanwhle in his state, where things are looking really bad, he obvioulsly can't read the fact that his name is all over this debacle. His response? The deficit budget of Obama must be okay, because Bush ran up a big one too. Hey, dufus: all the takk forces in the world won't tell you aout the middle class. But you're going to be quite well acquainted with us when you become one of us.
BS to you. The Salad-Tosser Leftist Progressives in the legislature, including your Radical mashie Oba-moa. The Democrats had the majority and voted for all the progressive changes that put us on the path to where we were in 2008, and the Progressive Left is now trying to destroy this Republic.
There is a two cliche limit on comments. You're way over.
How in the world is it justifiable to point out others who did it and then do it yourself? Can you spell scapegoat? I am positive you told your Mom when she came down on you about some miscreant activity, well, everyone else is doing it!. Like, that's an excuse? BTW, child, this idiot has done nothing at all to erase the errors of his fave whipping boy. He's just stacked atop it more trillions than we're ever going to be able to count. And, um, so far, what have you gained? Out here in the real world we're all on a downward spiral. You must live on Mars.
I'm hoping your comments were directed at milkman as I agree with what you said here! btw, i wish they all lived on Mars, get them the hell off my planet
Send Q-Tips to D.C.
Hate radio? What's that? I thought they cancelled Air America.
Tea parties were started in response to taxation attempts by the WH.
I find it so remarkable how so many leftists conviently forget that fact. Democrats have held both houses since 06 and anyone who cared to pay attention knows that they had every chance to stop this trainwreck before it got this far.
That can be done right now.
1. Finish meal.
2. Pull head out of toilet.
3. Use toilet paper to wipe off lips.
Problem solved.
"Just for good measure you might explain again how wrong it was to ridicule those of us who clutch our “guns and bibles” and admit that the people you seem to so despise are the very same people who win our wars, build our cities and yes, pay your salary."
Truer words were never spoken, but the idiots in DC will never learn
this lesson…With all their schemes to redistribute the wealth, we will
lose the middle class, (The backbone of our country) and have nothing
left but the poor, and the government…..
What a totally appropriate tongue lashing. Way to go, Joe!
So how did McCain get Obama to walk down that road and choose to talk to Joe brainiac?
Ladies and gentlemen: Today's installment of the TWO MINUTE HATE has been brought to you by the International Legion of Libtards, Marxists, and Educrats (ILLME).
Seriously, is it just me, or does it seem as if there are a lot more of these snivelling little bomb-throwers popping in here lately? AB's higher profile during the O'Keefe arrest, you think?
LOL… kinda.
Why haven't you moved yet?
Yes I agre with OCG and nceeno… what the hell are you talking about?
Mr Plumber… Thank you! Very well put!
Don't worry Joe the Plummer your in great company, the liberals four most hated people in the 20th century, Ronald Reagan, Whittaker Chambers, J Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon, You know the guys that did everything they could to defeat communism.. Credit that great line to Ann Coulter ( In her Book "Treason")
Look forward to hearing more from you !!!
When you don't want to accomplish anything, form a task force to study the problem.
joe biden if coarse and YES very sar.
"You right-wing nuts"
Oh wonderful, another troll.
I never said GWB is my beloved leader, however you make the accusation that it is he who put us in this mess.
Well, what mess exactly? There are a number of messes, do have a particular one in mind or do you mean all of them? Fine, when you have cleared that up then please explain how it was GWB is responsible for it. I can't wait to see your arguments. Really.
Mmm, I don't find it remarkable I find it detestable. (And I am realize you were speaking with sarcasm.)
I think it is far past time we start holding the fools who think this way accountable.
you missed the whole point baby cakes.
i hope your 2 years in junior college would have help but so much for that.
It's not you………………we've been invaded.
I think Joe the Bidet
You da Man Joe! The Fair tax needs more air play, The elite are hiding from it because they know it will work. Period. Even the bankrupt state of California pondered with it before the dem reps figured out that would take away there power. Its this simple, The fair tax puts the treasury deposits in our hands… not theirs, If they want "pork" they will have to create an economic environment in the USA that can generate revenue, Above the bottom line (entitlement /defense spending) Basically they will see that those 2000$ toilet seats add up.
and eliminate them. If there is money left after the budget… Build your bridge to no where and give yourself a raise for all I care. Support the Fair tax and bug your reps about it.. (watch em squirm) http://www.fairtax.org
Oh, I get it now…The caption under the pic of O'Biden should read: " O'Biden's reaction after Obumma walked up to him, dropped his trousers and asked him to TASK this"…lol… these clowns in WA need to go away….sooner rather than later…
Joe you really need to run, Your talents are needed in Washington and stop those idiots from spreading the Cash around. Try to let the people that earn it keep it for a change.
No one is too big to fail and Bush forgot it and Obama never knew it.
I am sure Holder will get on that issue just after talking with the New Black Panther movement. Holder can not even enforce election laws with video of the violation, he is the most clueless AG ever. Makes Janet Reno look like a Mensa Leader.
Mr. Biden couldn't find his way to his own local Home Depot if I remember correctly. If this administration did want to really know what we wanted they wouldn't need Joe Biden to form a nothing commission. Has anyone you know sent an extra check at tax time saying "I don't think I pay enough taxes, so here's a little extra for you to keep" Does anyone know how to make contact with this commission? or is this a don't call us we'll call you thing?
With local property taxes due and with April taxes looming in the next few months I wonder what these econofreeks are going to do when they find out that there are not very many tax payers left to tax… and tax….and tax.
Others have stated the, "Just LISTEN, darnit!" sentiment.
This was precisely the conversation I was having with my computer screen after the MA election, and the President was explaining that the voters just didn't understand his plans 'cause he hadn't explained them well enough.
We _know_ what you guys are trying to do and we DON'T like it. Stop offering explanations and excuses for your administration, and listen to the people you are supposed to represent.
One that doesn't serve Latte's just real coffee. I can only imagine him sitting at a Starbucks with a group of clueless kids, buying $5 coffee! When I spend $10 on coffee it is for a 3 pound container. That and an Espresso machine and I can save myself about $6k per year. Yes I do wear a green apron when I make coffee.
Hey JPA your so sexy when you talk naughty
I am not into you, why do you keep posting this stuff
Oh come on, dont play coy you know you love it
Maybe I do, so what, but your a 300lb 75 year old man, way too old for me so please stop posting this stuff!
I do think Joe is really cute though
Carter is the kind of president we need, he understands agriculture and other smart guys stuff, we needs him back now!
Harry, you know the answer to that already, Bush did it!
I'm sure Obama will blame him soon.
Come on 'Milkman' stand up for yourself, we're waiting.
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