Project Vote In Ohio: It Ain’t The Voting, It’s The Counting
by Josie Wales“Congress should address the need for both national standards and a more robust enforcing authority. If not, more decision making will fall to the states,” said Miles Rapoport, President of Dēmos, an umbrella corporation for the myriad of progressive groups attacking our state electoral processes. Progressives, realizing the Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA) left much of the implementation to states, began their National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA) assault in 2006.

The first battle over compliance with the NVRA occurred in Ohio in 2006. Coincidentally, the Secretary of State Project (SoSP) focused much of its efforts on seizing the open-seat for Ohio Secretary of State that same year. Seeing an opportunity to de-legitimize Ohio’s electoral process and to create an atmosphere favorable to a progressive candidate, ACORN filed a suit a little over a month before the 2006 elections. Sound familiar? It was the strategy in Michigan in 2004. But Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell (R) was not going to leave office without a resolute fight in defense of Ohio.
At issue was NVRA § 7: Voter Registration Agencies. Any state agency providing public assistance received designation as a voter registration agency. Public assistance agencies were supposed to follow a set of procedures providing mail voter registration, assisting applicants in completion of those forms, and accepting completed voter registration forms. Each state designates a “chief state election official” to coordinate state responsibilities for compliance with the NVRA.
The procedures for compliance are rather straight-forward, so Project Vote had an easier job alleging non-compliance. Catch any agency on a day after it has run out of forms. Seek assistance from any personnel unfamiliar with NVRA requirements. Find any individual receiving public assistance that has moved, and was formerly registered to vote. Compare the number of individuals registered in the first year under NVRA to the number of individuals registered now (because every year should see the same amount of people receiving public assistance, the same amount of people unregistered, and they will always be new or moved people, right?) Send a letter to the chief state election official alleging non-compliance through “scientific” studies. Demand a plan to remedy violations. Offer “help” to the state. Then sue to “protect” the voters (and more importantly, recoup expenses). Brilliant!
Republican Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell fought back. A motion to dismiss was filed on three grounds: (1) standing (of ACORN), (2) notice, and (3) improper party defendants.
- (1) Standing:
This was the best argument, and one that should be utilized anywhere ACORN or other progressive groups file suit. First-party standing requires (a) injury in fact, (b) the injury is fairly traceable to the challenged action of the defendant, and (c) likelihood the injury can be redressed. Third-party standing requires (a) members would otherwise have standing, (b) the interests at stake are germane to the organization’s purpose, and (c) neither the claim asserted nor the relief requested requires participation of individual members. Additionally, mere interest is not sufficient to confer standing and the organization must establish that its ability to further its goals has been ‘perceptively impaired’ so as to constitute more than an abstract setback.In regards to first-party standing, the court points out that ACORN would have spent money on voter registration drives anyway. As to third-party standing, ACORN failed to allege anything other than an abstract setback to its goals (whatever that might be).
- (2) Notice:
Notice was established fairly easily, as ACORN notified the “chief state elections official” of the alleged violation of NVRA involving the individual plaintiffs identified in the suit.
- (3) Improper Party Defendants
A proper defendant can be forced to redress the plaintiff’s injury. Whether the SoS would be a proper defendant was in flux at the time of this ruling. What is clear is that the progressives had not done their homework. Contempt for state law led them to not read and argue the state statutes with precision. Ignorance left them clueless as to the contemporary understanding of liability under the NVRA in the federal courts. And because SoS Blackwell was not going to “help” ACORN, the lawsuit floundered in federal district court.
In the memorandum in opposition to the motion to dismiss, Project Vote’s attorneys point to the state statute that would later allow ACORN to sue Ohio successfully. However, Project Vote explained the Ohio SoS’s duties in terms of the wrong federal court ruling. In United States v. New York, the federal district court determined that under New York state law and jurisprudence state officials were responsible for local enforcement of the NVRA. SoS Blackwell relied on United States v. Missouri, where the federal district court found that the SoS lacked enforcement responsibilities. In reality, Ohio statutes put the SoS’s responsibilities somewhere in-between Missouri and New York. In addition, Missouri, New York and Ohio are all in different federal circuits, so district court cases from each state are merely persuasive, not controlling. Regardless, the progressives got nowhere with state officials defending their state.
The case was dismissed in December 2006. Enter SoSP candidate Jennifer Brunner, who took office in January 2007. During her term as SoS, she did much to advance the voting issues susceptible to vote fraud that Michigan fought against in 2004. She agreed to work closely with public assistance agencies and ACORN to ensure “compliance” with NVRA. The District Judge, a Clinton appointee, even wrote a memorandum in opposition, citing Brunner’s willingness to do whatever she was asked to do. Unfortunately for Ohio, that was not enough for the progressives. ACORN, Dēmos, Project Vote and the associated attorneys wanted money. As you will see in Missouri, the need to generate legal fees was paramount over the desire to work with a state to register low-income voters. Even though ACORN had a SoS willing to help them, they appealed to the 6th Circuit to re-open the original case. Brunner used the same argument Blackwell had used. The appellate court skewered her argument, referring to the United States v. Missouri case and pointing out it had been overturned prior to her defense. Either Brunner is the most incompetent election-law lawyer ever (which would be surprising given her background), or she only wanted to put up the appearance that she was defending the interests of Ohio taxpayers. This second time around, the court interpreted the state statutes broadly to grant the SoS enforcement powers under NVRA. It was Brunner’s responsibility. And so Brunner’s office settled in November 2009. As a result, the progressives and their lawyers were granted an as yet unreleased amount of money from Ohio taxpayers for the settlement.






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One for d, one for r
Two for d one for r
Three for d, one for r……….
Ok. I see how it's done now. That isn't so hard!
Right,,,,,,,,,, the D's get the "big half"
"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. " Joseph Stalin
The Fresh Prince Of Bill Ayers is going to spare no expense this year in getting out the nut sack vote…
The democrat motto: "Vote early, vote often…"
"acorn, Demos,Project Vote & the associated attorneys wanted money", will this ever end? They have no
shame. "in Missouri the need to generate legal fees was paramount over the desire to work with a state
to register low income voters". What have I been saying, over & over. All lawyers are not terrorist, but all
these terrorist are lawyers. Why do we allow Congress (lawyers) to write laws, that allow this kind of BS
to be perpirated against the citizenry of the US?…………Nuff Said!!!!
Watch out NY ACORN, along with the Working Families party has plans for your state next. Check it out, they plan to keep Gillibrand and Shumer in the Senate
SosP, take off the 'P', insert an 'ro' as in Soros
http://www.demos.org/experts.cfm who runs Demos?
I didn't see Billy Ayers or Ward Churchill on there, must be behind the curtain.
It is all Soros pulling strings on BOTH his puppets, Hillary with Moveon.org and Barry with his nuts, ACORN.
Can't we get Soros thrown out/deported under the Sedition act?
But, Democrats are just trying to help the underprivileged and less fortunate. Even those that didn't have any plans of voting to begin with. They're really just helping, because most of these people aren't smart enough to make an intelligent decision anyway, and it's best if they just leave that messy business of electing public servants up to them……………Yeah.
Satire is good and all but unless this kind of thing is stopped our elections are going to be stolen.
Or just mug him and leave him in an alley to bleed out.
The back end of the scam is ACORN and Project Vote working, through lobbying and litigation, to abolish voter ID requirements. Beacuse, y'know, it violates the civil rights of minorities to expect them to show they are the person in whose name they're voting (Tony Romo, Mickey Mouse…)
Make no mistake this 'universal voter registration' movement
I really think that larva is the source of most of the problems going on now…
I also don't think there's a court in the world that he couldn't buy…although the French want him bad for financial malfeasance…
Maybe a good, long swim in the middle of the Pacific would help…about 1200NM from any type of land mass…in his skivvies…
You can change the "going to be stolen" to "have been stolen". As a voter in Minnesota I can guarantee you that the ACORN related SoS in Minnesota ensured the selection of Al Franken by the count and not by the vote. Votes in Hennepin Co (Minneapolis) were counted in a different manner than votes in Cass County et al (rural MN). The different standards, enforced by the SoS, selected Franken.
4000 more votes than voters in Milwaukee in 2004. Gore wins Wisconsin by 12000 votes. Selection by the SoS rather than election by We the People.
Sorry Kerry, not Gore.
We all need to move to Cook county.
Spoken like a card carrying member of the MSM.
I live in Ohio and this makes me sick to my stomach.We have as our governor Ted Strickland. How he was elected, I'll never know. Scandal after scandal surfaced in the months leading to the election, the amount of incriminating evidence was overwhelming.ACORN targeted Ohio.Oh, that's right, I know how Striackland was elected now. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Bill, I take it my sarcasm was not duly noted…LOL
One more example of why the Tea Party movement exists. Every election is important, every position needs to be filled by individuals that understand and agree with the Founding Fathers. Laws need to be passed/enforced that ensure when one votes they are who they say they are. Progressives sitting behind the bench need to be removed so that the courts can again be about the rule of law as set forth by the Constitution and the people.
If Soros disappeared would the serpent?
"The Fresh Prince Of Bill Ayers"
That is the best I've heard to date!
“Congress should address the need for both national standards and a more robust enforcing authority. If not, more decision making will fall to the states,” The states is where this belongs!
You know ACORN's motto? IF IT'S CLOSE WE WIN!!!!
I know the Great Barrier reef is near Australia, but there are alot of White sharks living there and might be able to choke his putrid carcass down…
The sharks wouldn't touch him, call it "professional courtesy".
He was put in by Soros, ACORN and SoSP: "We are proud of our 2006 victory in Minnesota, where long time reformer Mark Ritchie pulled off a major upset, with our support."
http://www.secstateproject.org/
That's what the voters of Minnesota found out.
Here's a post that'll get deleted. Barrett .50 cal.+ Soros' head = ?
I was hoping for a simple drowning, with him begging for mercy from an uncaring ocean, since he doesn't believe in God…his words on that, by the way…
And I'm not into animal cruelty; some poor Great White having to force that dried-up vampire of a human being down…although I'd give that shark a medal for its sacrifice in the service of Mankind…
I'd pull that…but I get to keep the rifle…
Always wanted a Barrett M8 A1….
I agree, Okie neighbor,…………. then why aren't 'the states' moving forward on voter ID? The Feds
warn us it will be overturned at Supreme Court Level. So what? If it is, then we'll comply. Other
laws are treated in this manner, I believe, so why not this one? What am I missing here?
I voted Repub. the lesser of two evils and then I got a thank you e-mail from Obama thanking me for his vote. I replied back that I didn't vote for you and have not heard nothing back from them. I'm wondering now if my vote was riged to go for Obama. Our government is so corrupted. Ohio Citizens we need to make sure we vote out all representatives and vote new conserv. into office from the Tea Party Movement so we can go back to our Consitution. And we need to ask Obama "Wheres the Birth Certificate" because he is not a US Citizen and is trying to destroy our Country. It is up to us as citizens of this Great state of Ohio to bring back responsablity from all of our government reps. Aren't you tired of all the BS that goes on in our government? Its time for CHANGE.
This will never happen with the people who are in office now. We need to vote them all out.
When I was a convoy commader in 'Nam, I had a 'Ma Deuce' on the headache board of the 5 ton dump truck I was driving.
Gore…2004?….I thought that Algore was coming off his depressed bender by then and ratcheting up his "Inconvenient Truth" crappolla…Check your facts. Kerry was the eventual loser in 2004. That led to the obvious question…"Why the long face, John?"
Sometimes the breadth and scope of BS in our government is indeed overwhelming.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
That's really scary!
SoSP is going over the voters, going to who COUNTS the votes, so votes won't count if they control the counters.
SoSP candidates 2010:
incumbents:
Mark Ritchie, Minnesota
Debra Bowen, California
Michael Mauro, Iowa
Jocelyn Benson, Michigan
Bill Nesselhuf, South Dakota
add:
Maryellen O'Shaughnessy, Ohio
Agreed. But if they get it all federalized, it's probably less time and money for them to influence Congressmen and a presidential administration than it is for them to keep up the charade in all fifty states. Then they can ruin another part of our country.
That's why they want at the Federal level easier to corrupt the few than the many!
I think a lot of the Progressives at the state level want this at the federal level; easier to control it there.
What do you do when you are out of fingers and toes?
Very funny. I think you're being ridiculous. No way are the Democrats counting like that. You're actually implying that they have math skills?
The Democrats vote-counting strategy is to have one of their more able people count the Republican votes (using all of their fingers and toes) and then figure out how many absentee ballots they need to add and how many ballots they need to challenge. It's just amazing how often they can't even get that math right.
Pray the Democrats never learn how to count…
Hey, that's not fair…!
Nobody said I could have a .50 Browning M2 HB….!
Not exactly "man portable" for the previously stated use…well…
I'm hoping Kasich will hang on to his poll lead and kick Strickland out. The R's are saddled with the requirement to be at least 4 to 5 points up when the votes are counted otherwise the Libs start up their absentee/recount machine.
I can see the day coming where even the 5 point victory will be in trouble as these PoS SoS' rework the rules and start a recount at that level.
Brunner is getting ready to run for the US Senate, has done little fundraising and is very complacent about a win. Perhaps its because as the SoS from ACORN she expects a full runout of SEIU/ACORN and other groups. She still has not counted the votes from 2008. Another election to steal…why not.
We had ten ton bridge trucks with quad 50s and even a detracked APCs mounted on the bed. I miss those toys. The M60s were fun, but if you fired them too long, they'd be more dangerous to the user, than to the enemy. Nowadays, I'm more into CQB weapons. I like up close and personal, myself.
I am SO glad the M-60 is out of the inventory…what a piece of trash that thing was…anything that required that much safety wire, and could be assembled with the gas piston backwards, was a perfect example of "horse designed by committee"…
And with your other comment… may I suggest the tomahawk…?
If you want to understand the importance of Ohio voting you can look at the 2004 election.
HOW BUSH STOLE THE ELECTION IN OHIO AND THE MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF HIS CYBER GURU MICHAEL CONNELL.
Tinfoil Hat or reality? You decide.
You want to talk about scandal, talk about how Michael Connell helped steal the election in Ohio for Bush.
Tinfoil hat or reality? You decide.
Where is the blasted Republican Party?
I've got a combat sword, based on the Wakazashi. When I was attached to the 5th SF, some of the guys had tomahwks, and knew how to use them to good effect. They taught me how to use my Gerber MK II in wonderous ways.
The States created the federal government, and could in theory destroy it.
A firearm will eventually run out of ammo, but an edged weapon is the gift that keeps on giving. I always keep one in reserve.
Q: Here's a post that'll get deleted. Barrett .50 cal.+ Soros' head = ?
A: Reach out and touch someone! Better than a telephone for long distance!
Not just elections but they also have a listing of everyone with address, phone, etc. Should help quite nicely when the purges start, ala the USSR method!
No wonder you write with a "slight" edge.
I often wonder what Carlos Hathcock would have done with one.
I expect Carlos would do just fine.
The longest recorded shot for effect was by a Canadian using American rounds, .50 cal., of course.
http://www.snipercountry.com/articles/killingshot...
Saw you mention SF, I did some training with the SF in Germany when assigned with the CCT at Rhein Main.
If they can't count they don't need to learn according the their success in conning the American voter! If America will elect a Islam trained Kenyan, probable Islam believing, Black man as President, it's no different than Germany electing a Hitler, on and on!~ I still don't think this is going to have a good ending, but I hope that I'm wrong. November of this year will answer that question, hopefully?
If true and I don't say it's not, it's scary. You know, Joseph Stalin was Progressive in thought also! He murdered a lot more people than Hitler, but hear very little about it!
FlexoRick, sounds like the responses agree, what's new? If ever too little, too late? The more I read and experience in my life the more that I feel that our Government was "stolen" a long, long time ago!
About Jennifer Brunner:
Our illustrious Democratic Ohio Secretary of State abetted ACORN voter frauds by forcing elections officials to accept absentee ballots and voter registrations, even though they were riddled with discrepancies. She issued a directive that forbid them to challenge voter eligibility when personal information from new voters didn’t match state motor vehicle or federal Social Security records in an automatic computer check.
This opened the flood gates for ACORN’s illicit activities to go unchecked.
Love it!!! So true!!! Short and to the point! In fact, a simply outstanding response to the current American dilemma!
Tin foil hat, ya loon.
I was with SHAPE in Germany. I used to transport ordinance from Miesau to Rhein Main which was sent back to the states for testing. I sometimes had to wear a Rad badge, drive at night, and check out a weapon. Did a lot of odd jobs. When I went to 'Nam, I often worked off the books. The SF trained everyone who was attached to them, lest they become a liability. I even did some Ranger training while I was there.
Hanging chads/Jeb Bush in Florida, propping up a phony election/government in Afghanastan, Al Franken stealing an election, you decide.
Congress should address the need for both national standards and a more robust enforcing authority. If not, more decision making will fall to the states,” said Miles Rapoport, President of Dēmos
LOL. Sounds good to me.
A "slight" edge? I try to keep my edge sharpened all of the time.LOL.Lately the sheer inanity of the trolls dosen't help. ;^) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
that's what I said…. is there another way to steal elections?
you can always tell when ACORN is in town. There's a massive influx of jobless people with calculators at the cemetaries, taking a "census" of possible voters.
Once again, proof elections (all elections) matter.
The Dems wanted the hanging chad votes thrown out.
Al Franken is a Dem.
My decision, you are a loon has lost his tin foil hat.
screw political correctness, you boys are my boys, God bless ya all. USNMCB-3
True.
True.
False.
That would leave a mark…
Announcing March on Washington to Demand Obama's Resignation
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag...
You wouldn't be able to stand the corruption, which isn't going away in our lifetimes.
Better to live in a decent place and fight from there.
Ironically, it's working quite the opposite.
The Obamunist federal government is currently trying to destroy the states.
Correction: The Dems wanted Bush's hanging chadss thrown out, not Gore's. Michael Isikoff of Newsweek was reporting on Broward County, which was a Dem bastion. He's not a Repub, but he was complaining that the Dems were counting every nick in every chad for Gore, but not for Bush and that it was unfair. Also, the manufacturer of the ballots said not to count the nicks because those could have been put there in the manufacturing process.
Is there another way to steal elections??
It is a recorded fact that every system of balloting established in America has been gamed and rigged. I.E. America's political practitioners have a very long history of ballot rigging and vote tampering. This is nothing new and evidence of the sort that has been uncovered has been long predicted by computer scientists.
In more recent history investigative Journalist Greg Palast has documented in detail Katherine Harris's use of electronic data matching technologies to disenfranchise thousands of Florida voters in advance of the 2000 Presidential election.
Oh by the way Greg palest is an independent journalist, who does not have a partisan agenda, a matter of fact he is currently ripping Obama an new A-hole, you really should try getting your info from independent non partisan sources, it may open your eyes to reality!!
I highly recommend you purchase a copy of "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" by Greg Palast to read much more about this.
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Too bad, haters – ACORN won the lawsuit, the whole deal went into effect, and the state is now registering thousands of people each month, who it wasn't registering before! Love it.
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