An American Liberal Reviews Karl Rove’s Account of the Iraq War
by Jeffrey Scott ShapiroFormer Bush Senior Aide Karl Rove deserves credit for vindicating President Bush in his new auto-biography, “Courage and Consequence: My Life as a Conservative in the Fight.”
As one of the few liberals in America who has supported the war in Iraq (See www.honorfreedom.com) I found deep historical value in Rove’s account of what actually happened in the White House during the months leading up to the war, and I was inspired by his willingness to call out those Democratic senators who voted for the war, but later abandoned the president once it became unpopular.
On January 5, 2007 ABC News reported that 28 of the 77 senators who originally voted for the war said they would have voted differently. Not surprisingly, Evan Bayh, Joe Biden, John Edwards, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton, all of whom challenged Bush for the presidency eventually turned against the war.
Of course, Bush’s post-9/11 popularity was 90 percent, the highest of any president in American history, and Democrats knew the only hope they had of winning was to undermine the morality of the war. Undermining the morality of the war meant that it didn’t matter if America achieved victory in Iraq.
The Democratic Party knew that if they could create a myth that Bush started the war under false pretenses, they could not only call him a failure; they could call him a liar. If that were true, they could discredit all of Bush’s successes.
Chapter 21 of Rove’s book – “Bush Was Right on Iraq” – sets the record straight. It is a thorough account of what really happened in the months leading up to the war. Rove starts with the history of Saddam Hussein’s attempt to compile weapons of mass destruction and sites specific examples of Democratic leaders who argue that point to the nation, including former President Bill Clinton, Vice-President Al Gore and current U.S. Senator majority leader Harry Reid.
Rove also mentions that on February 5, 2003, only a few weeks before the war, Democratic U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller publicly tied Saddam Hussein to Osama bin Laden in an interview with Wolf Blitzer. The media however, only criticized Bush and Cheney for making the same connection, and falsely accused the administration of tying Iraq to 9/11, which was something the administration never did.
What Bush and Cheney actually asserted was that there were contacts between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda brokered by Sudanese Islamist leaders, which was also reported by the 9/11 Commission (See page 61 of the paperback version which outlines the non-aggression pact brokered between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda by Turabi. Upon release of the report, the New York Times incorrectly reported on the front page that the 9/11 Commission found no tie between the two.)
Although there were conflicting reports that Iraqi intelligence had suspected involvement in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing (bomb-maker Abdul Rahman Yasin fled to Iraq after the 1993 WTC bombing and was essentially given asylum) the FBI did conclude that Iraqi intelligence was behind attempted assassination of President Bush 41 during his 1993 post-presidential visit to Kuwait (see “U.S. Strikes Iraq for Plot to Kill Bush, The Washington Post, June 27, 1993 which outlines how President Clinton fired 23 tomahawk cruise missiles into Iraq’s intelligence headquarters in retaliation).
All of these issues probably created additional concerns about Saddam Hussein’s determination to harm U.S. interests, but Bush’s actual justification for using military force against Saddam Hussein was simple; 9/11 was a wake up call that made government officials realize how vulnerable our nation was, and our national security strategy had to become more pro-active to prevent any other future possible attacks.
Since Iraq was still refusing to give U.N. weapons inspectors unfettered access to search for weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. Resolution 687, both Congress and the White House decided we needed to finally enforce those resolutions, which is what the international legislation actually mandated.
Using the same intelligence as the White House, the House of Representatives voted 296-133 and the Senate voted 77-23 in support of the 2002 resolution that authorized President Bush to use all necessary force to enforce any U.N. resolutions pertaining to Iraq. Rove also points out that despite the myth that the White House misled Congress about Iraq harboring weapons of mass destruction, Congress had access to the same intelligence reports the White House did.
Perhaps the most valuable mention in Rove’s book is his historical review of American foreign policy. Rove points out that the removal of Saddam Hussein did not start out as a policy under George W. Bush, but was actually an extension of President Clinton’s.
In 1998, President Clinton enacted the “Iraq Liberation Act,” (ILA) which made it official American foreign policy to support the removal of Saddam Hussein. Shortly after passing the Iraq Liberation Act, Clinton launched Operation Desert Fox, a massive bombing campaign designed to rid Iraq of weapons of mass destruction.
The liberation of Iraq was not a Republican or neo-conservative policy decision. It was an extension of the policy created by President Clinton who also had the insight to see the danger that Saddam Hussein presented to his own people and nations abroad.
Rove does not disappoint his readers. He takes personal responsibility for the Bush administration’s failure to respond to the Far Left attacks on the president.
“So who was responsible for the failure to respond? I was. I should have stepped forward, rung the warning bell, and pressed for full-scale response. I didn’t . . . the hope was that the charges would evaporate. The opposite happened. Our critics pounded us relentlessly. And the public saw our silence as a plea of nolo contendere . . . (but) the charge that Bush lied was itself a lie.”
Rove’s book is hopefully only the first account of many that will set the record straight about President Bush and the liberation of Iraq. Irrespective of one’s partisan loyalty, “Courage and Consequences” is an important historical perspective that should be read for consideration.
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro is the National Organizer of HONOR FREEDOM (www.honorfreedom.com) an organization dedicated correcting historical record President Bush and the war in Iraq. He previously interned for President Clinton in the White House and served on U.S. Senator John Kerry’s 2004 presidential election legal team.
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At this point I have no desire to read any politicians' or political stategists book on anything.
I'm too busy buying dehydrated food and ammo.
Maybe when I'm hunkered down I'll have more time…
DTOM!
http://rightwingstuff.com
I am reading Rove's book but not on the advice of this liberal who thinks he has some street cred here. The fact that you supported Bush in Iraq, but then went on to serve on pansy Kerry's legal election team tells me all I need to know, especially after you put in your column that Kerry politicized his vote. Your contradictions prove your idiocy.
Still trying to justify the war, huh?
Clue. Their were no WMD's, (Bush ordered inspectors out so he could start the bombing), no connection to 911, and no connection to Osama bin Laden. All lies by Bush to justify the war.
Bush is a torturer and a war criminal.
And another clue. We lost. We lost a trillion dollars, 5,000 lives, and tens of thousands wounded and maimed(maimed is getting body parts blown off, horribly burned, and otherwise disfigured), and hundred thousand plus suffering post traumatic stress. All issues we will be paying for for decades.
I do not trust Obama to do the right thing under any circumstance.
Obama is making Bush look good and that, is too bad.
I would rather have Bush back than go forward with Obama.
you didn't read the post before you launched into talking points, did you? The sad fact is that ALL of the Congress- Democrats included- are complicit in your 'take' on the war. So, if you are intellectually honest you will spread the blame EVERYWHERE it belongs.
Not just a partisan attack on Bush…
"The Democratic Party knew that if they could create a myth that Bush started the war under false pretenses, they could not only call him a failure; they could call him a liar. If that were true, they could discredit all of Bush’s successes."….
Now we can say the same things about Obama…He lied to get into the White House and has kept on lying to the American people on a daily basis…Big difference here, is Obama has NO SUCCESSES!!
Rasmussen's last poll of the race showed that 52 percent supported health reform, while 46 percent opposed (and that's with Rasmussen's cooked numbers)
Kinda funny how Rasmussen always comes around to what the other pollsters say. Albeit is always too late.
Thank God, we in Britain didn't follow this vein of thought during WW II, wouldn't have had the leadership of Mr. Winston..
You are such a moronic troll. We get a good laugh at all of your posts.
for someone who is considered 'Mephistopheles' by the left Rove sure appears the happy warrior…
Never angry, or bitter, Rove answers tough questions honestly, fall on his sword when need be, and generally comports himself with a modicum of dignity. Unlike much of his liberal brethren, we might add. His techniques for victory in the 2004 election is considered brilliant; and was adopted (stolen?) by Rahm Emanuel for the 2008 campaign.
What we enjoy most about Rove- yes his analysis on FOX is goo but that's not it- is the absolute frenzy he sends his opponents into. Much foaming at the mouth, moving body parts and epithets are featured. So-
He must be doing SOMETHING right…
Obama does too have his successes! Reparitions, graft, corruption, buying of votes, wasting traxpayers money, fraud, record number of lies, keeping caterers in DC employed, improving the real estate market around DC as he authorizes relocation packages for friends of friends of friends, elevating the wages of government etc, etc, etc…
Think I'll go have some nice tea and calm myself.
Ah, the ever-vague word choice of "reform." Ask them if they want a bill written by the Insurance Lobby that mandates you buy their product – then see how many support it.
Well said, anon.
Considering how many of our youth have been indoctrinated from birth in socialist Progressivism and the false concept of "social justice", where do you propose to find these fresh faces?
You're free to like or dislike anyone you choose, but you should judge the man on his principles and the content of his character…and not on the hateful lies of the agenda-driven Left.
Obumble lies daily, and we have the video and audio to prove it. In ever thickening volumns.
You should try getting your news from somewhere other than the movies.
First, the requirement to avoid the *continuation* of war (we were as much at war with Iraq on the first, last, and every day in between of the Clinton administration as we were after the invasion launched in 2003) was not that Iraq not have WMDs, but that they prove that they had destroyed all of the ones they did have (the UN found WMDs after Desert Storm – it is undeniably true that Iraq had WMDs at one point). Iraq's response was to claim that they'd NEVER had WMDs, a claim already known to be false, and a more than sufficient violation of the sanctions to trigger the invasion.
Second, Iraq DID have WMDs on the day before the invasion. US soldiers were killed by improperly deployed biological weapons that insurgents tried to fashion into an IED.
Finally, the connection to 9/11, as the author pointed out, was never asserted by Bush or anyone in the administration. The connection to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda has long since been proven.
Don't feed the TROLL. His mom gets tired of cleaning up the mess when he spills his chips.
Hmm, Bush Lied, People Died". "Its all the fauls of the Jews!" "The Polls Support us (even when they don;'t)"
The intellectual content of leftist opinion continues to be left wanting.
But, as some people are found of saying – You people are so stupid!
"The sad fact is that ALL of the Congress- Democrats included- are complicit in your 'take' on the war"
Let the war crime trials begin! Let's lay it all out for all to see.
And I'd especially like to know who forged the document alleging Saddam was trying to buy uranium. The one that Joe Wilson debunked.
And your failure to accept someones admission that they were wrong about an issue reveals your own idiocy. It seems that you can't think past your own anger. Sad.
You'd understand your first 3 "clue" points are quite stupid. He addresses all 3:
"Rove starts with the history of Saddam Hussein’s attempt to compile weapons of mass destruction and sites specific examples of Democratic leaders who argue that point to the nation, including former President Bill Clinton, Vice-President Al Gore and current U.S. Senator majority leader Harry Reid."
"Rove also mentions that on February 5, 2003, only a few weeks before the war, Democratic U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller publicly tied Saddam Hussein to Osama bin Laden in an interview with Wolf Blitzer. The media however, only criticized Bush and Cheney for making the same connection, and falsely accused the administration of tying Iraq to 9/11, which was something the administration never did."
"Since Iraq was still refusing to give U.N. weapons inspectors unfettered access to search for weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. Resolution 687, both Congress and the White House decided we needed to finally enforce those resolutions, which is what the international legislation actually mandated."
Funny how you can't read the latest numbers. Check it out at http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/po... On the right, it CLEARLY shows that 41% are in favor and 56% are AGAINST. So I don't know what lies you are spreading or what your agenda is here, but you mixed it up. Also, if you look, it has NEVER been at 52 % in favor. In fact, it has hardly ever been above 50%.
So, the Democrats have signed their death warrant. Long live King Obama eh? Next target? Global Warming, oh so sorry, I mean, Climate Change.
Obama = Don Quixote
Hmmm… not really sure what your post has to do with the article but it sounds like you are trying to justify the passage of this monstrosity of a health care bill by implying that a (very old) Rasmussen poll shows the people support it.
Of course, if you just look at what *you* claim they said they supported then the discrepancy is clear. Even today, very large numbers of Americans (I believe a majority, just like the above Rasmussen poll says) support *some* form of health care reform, which is all that Obama every ran on. However, a large majority of Americans, for some time now, have not supported the Health Care Reform bills that have been working their way through Congress for the past year.
Explain that to the Kurds and Iranians who were killed with VX gas you idiot. God! You are SO STUPID! bwahahahaha!
Hey, it's lacking a lot but it's a hell of a start. And to be honest I don't think it was possible to do much better. The exchanges are a huge step towards a single payer.
Bet he's a 9/11 truther too. Be careful, Mommy said she wasn't buying you another keyboard if you broke one more, TROLL.
Hey clueless,
1. WMDs are nuclear, biological, and chemical not just nukes.
2. Chemical weapons were found.
3. Bush admin kept quiet while yellow cake uranium was removed from Iraq, by the US and allies, to secured storage. Also known as Operational Security to ensure the shipment was secure.
4. Bush admin never connected Iraq to 9/11, your precious progressives in Congress and media concocted that story.
5. Al-Qu'aeda operatives received asylum and medical treatment in Baghdad.
6. Terrorist training camp was active for several years in Iraq until the US removed the Hussein regime.
7. Syria covers up a nuclear incident in the Bekka valley where nuclear material was transferred prior to US entry into Iraq.
8. Iraq continuously violated the 1st Gulf War cease fire and numerous UN resolutions from firing on US and Allied aircraft, massacre of Kurds, and refusing UN inspections just to mention a few.
9. Unlike the health care debacle, the US Congress passed overwhelmingly the authority to force Iraq to abide by the 1st Gulf War cease fire and numerous UN resolutions.
God you are stupid, not dumb or ignorant, just plain stupid.
"You are such a moronic troll."
So who do you think cooked up all the phony intelligence?
The reason The Old Draft Dodger Slick Willie 'bombed' the Iraqis was to create a smoke screen to try to obscure the shabby Lewinski scandal.
Irrespective of poll numbers, however, it is a blatant fact that the bill that just passed the House is a complete mess and a huge mistake. Even many liberals didn't vote for it and the ones that did said things like "Well, it is a bad bill but it is the best that we can do at this time." or, my favorite "Yes, as a bill it does suck but if we don't pass the bill it will hurt Obama's image." Better to screw 300 million Americans than embarrass the president.
People say that the victory was a highly partisan victory because not a single Republican in the House or Senate voted for the final bill. However, I think it is more illuminating to point out that *opposition* to the bill was highly *bipartisan* with many Democrats joining with the Republicans to vote against the bill.
Is your normal speaking voice a high-pitched, mewling castrato? Because that's how I imagine it.
Wison debunked absolutely nothing…
He sat around and drank mint tea and made inquiries. THAT one you can pin the blame on MI-6. IF it is a forgery. Saddam, like every tinpot dictator desperately wanted nukes and had a nascent program.
Either way, you will get your trial- maybe. Seems Obama and his pals might be up to their necks in this as well…
Is your normal speaking voice a high-pitched, mewling castrato? Because that's how I imagine it.
Forgot to take your meds again?
Are you kidding me? did you even read the article? Look up Clinton's Iraqi Liberation Act. I suppose you will also deny the claims that we had Osama bin laden while Clinton was in office which then lead to 9/11. President Bush kept your butt safe for 7 yrs and as soon and you libtards got your way, we've had attacks on American turf. You should wake up to the fact that the Democrats are only for "it" being whatever "it" is as long as "it" serves them. Then quickly change their position and create myths that they know the loyal "Hopers" are sure to follow. I'm sick of ideologues like you anon who don't recognize what the Vultures on the left have done to this country. GET OUT!!!!!!!!!
The other difference is that there is no disputing that Obama has lied repeatedly and consistently. Lying is the least of his sins. Let's not forget cheating and stealing. Sonn he will be moving up to rape and murder. In fact, the argument could be made that he has ALREADY escalated to murder by signing his abortion bill into law. That would also constitute conspiracy to commit.
For someone who is the least qualified man in any room he walks into, he's building quite a resume now!
Sorry, this is a mispost. Wordpress is going nuts.
Three words: Explain Scott Brown
God, you are SO stupid!
Yeah, little green men are coming to get you! Or no, it's the Oompa-Loompas! No, it's red China! Aahhhhh!!!!
Welcome back, you antisemetic bastard! I see you finally managed to find a way to crawl out from under that rock of yours. Burn any books or crosses lately?
The tragedy of this exercise (the book writing) will be that nobody who must,……………
will ever read Carl Rove's accounts ,………………this book will be on the,…………..
must NOT read list on all college campuses.
"President Bush kept your butt safe"
Yep, except when he ignored the warning "Osama bin Laden determined to attack within the U.S. using airplanes" and 3,000 of us were killed.
The worst terrorist attack in U.S. history HAPPENED ON BUSH'S WATCH.
Yeah, he really kept us "safe". And the 5,000 Americans who died in Iraq? He really kept them safe.
This article and Rove's book are spot on, there was huge bi-partisan support to go after Saddam's Iraq. And the sad truth all Progressive/Socialist was that we won the war, liberated millions of people, and did find some, though not the amounts expected, of some WMD. The progressive/Socialist are trying to pull a Vietnam on the American Public again. The standard fair for Progressive/Socialist on Vietnam, is that the American forces lost the war, which is totally wrong as evident by the 1973 Paris Peace Accords. What lost the Vietnamese their freedom, was the Democratic/Progressive/Socialist controlled congress in 1975 that refused to provide arms or airpower, as required by the Peace accords, to South Vietnam. They are at it again, already Obama is taking credit for the victory in Iraq, and selling out the Afghans by encouraging the Taliban be incorporated into the Afghan government.
There are very clear ties between Iraqi intelligence and Osama Bin Laden.
If, instead of repeating the brainless "narrative" of the discredited and dishonest pro-democratic Media, you actually read anything on your own, you would realize that. All you have to do is understand that the Iraqi agents (Ramzi Yousef) who blew up the Truck bomb in 1993 is the nephew of Al Queda plot master Khalid Sheik Mohammed.
Moderate,
Linky no worky.
That is incorrect.
Bibles burned in Israel:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/28/bible.b...
You must be a glutton for punishment?
Bibles burned in Israel:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/28/bible.b...
You must be a glutton for punishment?
I will give Bush the benefit of the doubt regarding the invasion even though he used intelligence that was deliberately skewed because Saddam was ignoring UN resolutions. We lost less than 100 killed during the invasion. What Rove does not talk about is our policies after the invasion. We put our troops in the middle of a civil war. At no time was there ever any talk of simply walking away and letting the Sunnis and Shias duke it out. Instead, we left our fine men and woman in a shooting gallery. I am not saying for certain, we should have left, but the threat needed to be made. And if we had left, the sky would not have fallen. All we had to do was arm the Kurds and walked away. We would have saved thousands of lives and casualties and billions, if not trillions of dollars.
"Hey, it's lacking a lot but it's a hell of a start",……..????/
If it is lacking "a lot",…………why then is it "a hell of a start",…..????,……
as far as Dhaffy's question,………….."Ask them if they want a bill written by the Insurance Lobby………."
How about a bill written based on the will of the people???????????
Can't,…….. divide and conquer,……so I suppose,………….
Deceive and conquer,……… will have to do.
You can tell who the good guys are by the fervor of hatred from bitter left.
Thank you. You are so right.
"If it is lacking "a lot",…………why then is it "a hell of a start",…..?"
Insuance companies will no longer be able to deny coverage due to pre existing conditions.
And the exchanges are a HUGE win. HUGE.
Go read a little history on Social Security and Medicare. They too weren't built in a day.
Agreed. I went to the website he sites. Maybe more readers should do that before they opine.
Karl Rove is tired of you too.
Don't forget Wolfowitz saying oil revenues would pay for it all!
The vote that happened Sunday night (victims are 300million+) was the worst. Second was Pearl Harbor that wiped out Hawaii. Lastly You must have missed the part where I said 7 yrs and the fact that a whole country was LIBERATED because of Bush.
You are beneath contempt.
The little green men you're referring to – would those be little jealous progressives whose goal now is to spread the misery equally?
Since (pro)regressives don't seem to take the Red threat seriously (and never have) I subscribe to the Ann Coulter philosophy "With the fate of the world in the balance, liberals should leave the defense of the nation to conservatives. "
Try this one…linky do worky!
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/po...
Oh, and so your little liberal brain isn't confused though the link may have september 2009 in it the poll is from March 21, 2010.
Again, obviously you were never taught to stand up on your own two feet. Grow up and stop expecting everyone else to pay your way.
Yep, except when he ignored the warning "Osama bin Laden determined to attack within the U.S. using airplanes" and 3,000 of us were killed.
You mean like Obamao admin ignored the warnings over the past year? Good thing the terrorist on the plane for Detroit had the same level of competence as you anon.
You do know that Medicare is the biggest denier of claims. Didn't think so. And, when the money runs out, you're going to see such misery. And you brought it on yourself – except you took me down with you, you miserable cur.
LOL! Yes, I love watching the eyeballs flying backward and spittle showering the host whenever a Progressive is confronted by Rove!
So the health care law will become just like Social Security and Medicare? You mean unable to pay their benefits, denying benefits at a higher rate than insurance companies, rationing care and treatment?
Go read a little history on military medical to see what will happen with the gov't run health care.
Obama has been president for over 14 months and it is still Bush's fault,…………..but ,………….
Bush is in office for just 8 months and I totally agree with you there anon,……….
The worst terrorist attack in U.S. history HAPPENED ON BUSH'S WATCH……….HOWEVER,………….
Bush took action to eliminate "his" shortcoming,……………
F($%ing MSNBC, telling more lies.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/
What do you suppose this was to be used for? I bet it was simply peaceful means, like Iran. No intention whatsoever to create a weapon.
I don't know if it was quite that simple – so easy to be an armchair general. But folks can disagree with a policy without impugning someone's character which is what The National Progressive Party did. They undermined the effort – who knows what might have happened had Bush not had to fight his own country as well as the terrorists. What happened was a travesty. Bush was not my candidate. And there were domestic policies that drove me crazy along with the big spending. But I never doubted his sincere desire to protect this country and he ALWAYS was a gentleman, unlike the whiney child who dares sit with his feet up on that magnificent desk in the Oval Office.
There is only one thing wrong with your accounts there Kristine,……………….
only intelligent folks like yourself are aware of them,…………..sure wish you had Katie Curic"s job.
I take some solace in the fact that our Joe Wilson was right and theirs' was not.
Oh yes he did there dcase,…..it's that anon has got his Joe Wilsons mixed up,……………..
the Joe Wilson anon is referring to that did the debunking,……… is in congress
It was the Liberals fault. Why? Because we have had to accomodate the world due to the political correctness they have imposed. Like knowing excatly who enters this country; be it by air or borders. We should just assume that everyone is good until something bad happens? that's the m.o. of the left. So no, it's not Bush's fault.
when you guys played little league,…….. was that the time when everyone got a trophy
I have a great idea.How about people pay for their own shi…shhhhhh.
Read it and weep…
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/05/world/m...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/iraqs-yellowcake/...
Even the liberal LSM reported it, though it was buried….
Regardless of age, Winston was a servant of the bankers.
Let me help you with your computer issue. Turn off your computer. PLace it in a box. Ship it back to wherever you got it from as you are obviously too stupid to be using a computer.
Still trying to discredit the war, huh? (Uhm which war, the "good" one in Afghanistan or the "bad" one in Iraq?)
Clue. There were WMD's (President Clinton "guarantees" the world that Hussein would use his WMD arsenals and claims the U.S. will be prepared to act. Senate Democrats pass resolution 71 urging President Clinton to "take all neccessary and appropriate actions to respond to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Clue. President Clinton signed into law HR 4655 "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998" and, after ordering all UN Inspectors our of the country, authorizes 4 days of bombing in Iraq (Operation Desert Fox)
Clinton is a war criminal, a serial liar and a lecher.
And another clue, Saddam Hussien and his sons killed, tortured, raped, starved and maimed thousands of every-day Iraqi's. All things that would be going on to this day if people like anon had their way.
Stupid is as stupid does?
oh, THAT Joe Wilson. The Valerie Plame husband Joe Wilson is a fraud and a liar. Oh, and everyone in Alexandria KNEW she was CIA, too. And she wasn't a 'classified' or 'covert' agent either. They were listed in the local 'who's who' and she was identified there as being CIA.
So don't lay no 'Joe Wilson' (the bad one!) on us and say he debunked anything…
What would it take for Obama to win your trust? A visit to Michael Jackson's dermatologist?
I believe that "threat" you mentioned WAS made. Our esteemed Lame Stream media suppressed
the HELL out of that story & the Adm was OK with it since the "threat" was meant for the leaders of
Iraq, not as propaganda for use on Americans.
Thank God for President GW Bush and Mr. Rove. I lost friends and family in WTC on 911 he did the right thing !!! Bush did this and Bush did that and Bush didn't do that. You all drank the kool aid. He deposed a hated enemy dictator and brought freedom to Iraq, not to mention removal of the taliban in Afganastan. At the same time President Bush was taking our foreign enemies out, he was under attack in this country by the shit that's in the WH and congress at the moment. He made the difficult decisions for us and our Country.Not to mention stopping terrorist attacks on us for 8 years. An old NYC Cop.
they did bury this story, didn't they?…
Apparently did not fit the MSM narrative. When you are creating news, not reporting it, details and facts can become sticky things…
"Insuance companies will no longer be able to deny coverage due to pre existing conditions"
and on what page in the bill is this wonderful clause in there anon,…?????
"………… They too weren't built in a day".
You are referring to their cost,………?????
LMAO… I dont think I could do Katie's job, looking cute while giving propaganda and "scare" stories while looking cute as a button.
No, I think Obama should go to the other Michael Jackson Doctor, Dr. Conrad Murray.
sorry my sarc did not come across so let me put it this way there dcase.
Our Joe Wilson can beat the shit out of anon's Joe Wilson
What is this? A meeting of morons?
You quote Joe Wilson. What a moron
"Yeah, little green men are coming to get you! Or no, it's the Oompa-Loompas! No, it's red China! Aahhhhh!!!!"
This troll left the biggest threat to our freedoms out of his "cute" little list…..OBUMBLE, is the biggest
threat…He proves it every day!!!
Did not say that there Rachael,…………….was merely commenting on how the libs
do not blame 9/11 on Clinton but are so eager to still blame Bush for things that are so clearly happening in the Obama administration (i.e., 10% unemployment)
Agreed with anon ONLY on the fact that 9/11 did happen in W's term.
Chicago Ralph, when they palyed Little League, if they did…..They probrably were the ones sitting on the
bench picking their nose…..lol
You're right………….Wilson not only did NOT "debunk" anything, he actually PROVED that Saddam WAS, indeed, trying to buying yellowcake.
ho!
good one…
anon…….yes, 911 happened on President Bush's watch; however, we can and should put the blame for that squarely where it belongs………………….ON CLINTON AND HIS ADMINISTRATION !
Clinton was offered bin Laden, on a silver platter, at least THREE different times and turned him down!
Because of Jamie Goreloick's WALL, the FBI,CIA, state and local police, were not allowed to share any info they had, amongst each other and so vital facts, which might have stopped the attack, were never shared.
The Clinton administration never did tell President Bush and those in his administration detailed facts, just vaguely written puff pieces.
And yes, President Bush DID keep us safe; unlike Clinton and now Obama.
Cute as button,.yes,…….. maybe that's why her message is not that relevant.
the biggest lie of the whole war is that somehow Saddam did not intend to get nuclear weapons.
Seems many forgot the raid on the reactor by the IDF in 1982. Wilson was, and is a two bit bureaucrat who wasn't properly vetted by the Bush administration after his wife 'nominated' him for the job.
He did nothing except come back and spew propaganda. A real dirtbag…
Gotta love how an absolute moron like anon just doesn't get it. Frankly we didn't go far enough. Thank god cowards like anon had no say in the matter, if so there would still be innocent people being thrown in to wood-chippers by that dead dictator. But people like anon tend to love dictators. Go away troll. I've seen your posts and you oobviously have an IQ of <80. Why don't you move out of the country. You're not welcome here.
True, all of that, with one exception……………Wilson was NEVER "vetted"; his wife p0uilled all kinds of strings and then, on her word/her "vetting", he went off to sit around and drink sweet tea, doing virtually nothing and then, without ever having a debriefing, wrote and had published a spurious "editorial" for the N.Y. Times.
Both Wilson and Plame are traitors and publicity whores. Thankfully, their desired movie hasn't been made, nobody bought the book, and they are NOBODIES now, not being feted and invited NOWHERE.
Not to mention the fact that Saddam Hussein boasted (blustered?) he had WMD.
Armchair general? All you had to do was look at the casualty lists. This had nothing to do with the Democrats because the Republicans had the House, the Senate and the White House. Dick Cheney was simply afraid to admit they made a mistake. The only mistake they made was getting in the middle of a civil war. The Sunnis and Shias have been fighting for 1,500 years. The Sunnis felt our presence was a threat to them because they are a minority and had ruled for 40 years. As a result, they knew the Shia wanted revenge.
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