Democrats Should Vote Against Elena Kagan
by John ShuThirty-seven current Democrat U.S. Senators, along with former Senators Barack Obama and Joseph Biden, believed that Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas, John Roberts, or Samuel Alito were not sufficiently qualified to be on the Supreme Court. Using their own standards, Elena Kagan is also not sufficiently qualified and these 39 Democrats therefore should not support her nomination.

Bork, Thomas, Roberts and Alito, at the time they were nominated for the Supreme Court, had significantly more experience, scholarship, and/or accomplishments than Kagan does now.
Bork served in the U.S. Marine Corps, in private practice for several years, as U.S. Solicitor General, as one of America’s most influential antitrust scholars, and as an U.S. circuit judge. Thomas served as Missouri’s Assistant Attorney General, in-house counsel for a major corporation, a U.S. Senate aide, Chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, and a U.S. circuit judge. Roberts served as Special Assistant to the U.S. Attorney General, Associate White House Counsel, Principal Deputy Solicitor General, and head of the appellate practice at Hogan & Hartson (now Hogan Lovells), which was the oldest major law firm headquartered in Washington, D.C. and which now has some 2,500 attorneys worldwide. Roberts also argued dozens of Supreme Court cases and was an U.S. circuit judge prior to his Supreme Court nomination. Alito, among other things, argued a dozen Supreme Court cases as Assistant to the U.S. Solicitor General, was U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, and was an U.S. circuit judge.
Kagan does not have this same level of accomplishment.
A Supreme Court nominee need not have prior judicial experience, but that nominee must have the necessary experience to be a justice. Kagan became Solicitor General about a year ago, and until then her actual litigation experience mainly consisted of doing dredge work like discovery and motion practice. In fact, she joined the Supreme Court bar only shortly before the Senate confirmed her as Solicitor General. Kagan’s inexperience showed when she argued – and subsequently lost – her first Supreme Court case, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, the same case which President Obama uses to claim the mantle of standing up for the little guy and to attack the Supreme Court. Kagan herself admits that during her Citizens United argument she did not know how to answer Justice Kennedy’s questions about Thornhill v. Alabama, 310 U.S. 88 (1940) and Coates v. Cincinnati, 402 U.S. 611 (1971) because she did not know them.
Thornhill and Coates are well-known First Amendment cases which Kagan should have learned in law school. Justice Kennedy wrote Citizen United’s majority opinion; perhaps the case would have turned out differently if President Obama had nominated a more qualified Solicitor General candidate.
Kagan and her supporters cite her experience as a professor and dean at Harvard Law School to try and overcome her general lack of qualifications. Knowledgeable liberal academics, however, correctly note that her scholarship is minimal in both quality and quantity. Liberal academics also note that during Kagan’s time as dean approximately 80% of her tenured or tenure-track faculty were white men. Kagan hired five white women, one Asian-American woman, and no blacks, Latinos, or Native Americans. Perhaps Kagan should explain to Justice Sotomayor why she did not hire a wise Latina to be a tenured Harvard Law professor?
Some liberals are afraid that Kagan’s lack of a substantive record means she would move the Court to the right. Ignore this red herring. Kagan grew up in Manhattan’s privileged, liberal Upper West Side and worked for liberal politicians like Liz Holtzman, Mike Dukakis, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, and now Barack Obama. Kagan may be a stealth nominee, but she is not going to move the Court to the right.
The President of the United States may nominate anyone he likes to serve on the Supreme Court, and the Senate should confirm that nominee based on whether he or she is objectively qualified, respects the Constitution, and will not impose personal political or policy preferences from the bench. A White House spokesman recently declared that President Obama would nominate “someone who has a rigorous legal intellect, respects the limits of the judicial role and has a keen understanding of how the law impacts the daily lives of Americans.” It does not appear that Kagan has these qualities.
Let’s skip the old and useless confirmation arguments over issues like abortion. Instead, let’s examine Kagan, her record, and her qualifications under President Obama’s criteria and the criteria which Democrats used to examine Bork, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito. If President Obama, Vice-President Biden, and the 37 current Democrat U.S. Senators who voted against confirming Bork, Thomas, Roberts or Alito voted true to their beliefs, then they should also vote against confirming Elena Kagan or confess their hypocrisy.






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This woman has one thing,womanly knowledge,she also has emotions,rule from the bench from the heart,she'll also do what shes told so obedience has to count for something,right?
Clarence Thomas to this day is unfit to serve.
Have you ever read one of his opinions? Didn't think so. He's incapable of writing one.
For that matter he's incapable of asking a relevant question. I think he's asked one in the past dozen years.
Democrats walk in lock step on agenda only. To these morons like mindedness is the only thing that counts. That is bad enough, but what is worse is the stupid ignorant Republicans continually roll over on judicial appointments with lame excuses such as, "elections matter", "president has the right to appoint who he wants". What a load of dung! Court picks deserve scrutiny just to the life time appointment factor alone. Furthermore, Democrats never extend that same courtesy!!! Republicans should start dragging their picks through the mud until the Dems cry "Uncle!" As it stands now Democrats are playing hardball and Republicans are playing tiddly winks.
Also of note is the enormous amounts of benches never filled during Bush administration. COP A CLUE REPUBLICANS!
For this administration SOCIAL AGENDA outweighs EXPERIENCE
You are being sarcastic???
More of the "Do as I say, not as I do…" double speak from Chairman O and his criminal cabal.
While they demonize and blame others for the activities they engage in, they distract the people with their officially sanctioned hate speech and demonization of private businesses to further enslave the poor to the government.
Sadly, the simple minded left wing robots gobble it up like mother's milk.
"…Kagan does not have this same level of accomplishment…A Supreme Court nominee need not have prior judicial experience, but that nominee must have the necessary experience to be a justice."
Barack Obama lacks ANY level of accomplishment and his own experience for the position he now holds is NAUGHT. So why again are we appalled at his choice in nominee? This administration personifies lack of qualification. In Obama's world, liberal thinkers need only apply.
That Clarence Thomas still sits on the bench is reassurance that at least one true, genuine and brilliant legal mind remains on our Supreme Court still.
Kagan SCARES this CRAP out of me! She needs to go!
Is this for real?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100524/ap_on_bi_ge/u...
""This victory goes well beyond the immediate results in Chicago. It should ensure that no other fire department or employer uses a discriminatory test,"
Can anyone please explain to me what is a "discriminatory test"?
Fire burns different if you are black?
Does fire propagate differently in Chicago?
I honestly don't understand.
Please explain.
get lost troll. no one's interested in your banality.
To serve on the Supreme Court of the United States? No, obedience doesn't have to 'count for something,' especially if the nominee possesses nothing else.
Even my dog is obedient.
one certainly hopes so…
"Have you ever read one of his opinions?"
Apparently you haven't, so I've provided you with some homework.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/author.php?thoma...
Your grade will remain an "F" until you show an ability to post something that isn't an ad-hominem bit of tripe.
Kagan is just the kind of stealth candidate Barry needs right now…
No paper trail to speak of- and the Clintonistas 'may not' release whatever they have before the hearings. Fancy that. She will be a lockstep lefty- and will advance the gay agenda Obama is so deeply in debt over. But, hey here's a picture of her playing softball.
THAT's all you need to know, according to State Controlled Media…
While I generally agree with Clarence Thomas' positions, it is true that he is not really regarded as a original thinker in legal circles, and his opinion writing leaves much to be desired. He is certainly no Scalia.
Did 37 Senators actually say that these nominees were "not sufficiently qualified"? Certainly, a lot of votes against these nominees (which did not add up to 37 in every case — e.g., Roberts only had 22 votes against him) — were based on the view that their legal ideology was out of the mainstream.
There is no 'black/white' test for firefighters! There is ONE test …you either have the skills or you don't! I wouldn't want ANY firefighter to come to my aid, unless he or she KNOWS what they are doing..has NOTHING to do with color!
Are you for real, Lolo????
You're wasting that much time and effort on this troll? Head for higher ground–now.
Cut him off and cut him loose, all of you.
It never fails to amaze me how anyone, even Democrats, can be led blindly into this kind of tyranny! Surely these people USED to love their country!
Apparently YOU were interested enough to read my post.
I hope you learned something from it.
Anon:
Me thinks that not only have you never read one of Justice Thomas' opinions either, but more importantly that you are such a mindless ideologue that you can't even search for one of his opinions. Try the following link for starters:http://www.bsos.umd.edu/gvpt/lpbr/subpages/review... Justice Thomas clearly has written MANY legal opinions; just because you disagree with the originalist intent of his jurisprudence does not make him illiterate; it just demonstrates that you are yet another smug, condescending, and illiberal troll who is intolerant of what was until fairly recently a legitamate constitutional perspective.
If comparisons are in order, I'd be more than confident that his understanding the Constitution dwarf those of the current occupant in the White House; at least everyone can find and view Justice Thomas' record!
Related parody: Senators Poised to Confirm Dictator for Life with Little Dictator Experiencehttp://optoons.blogspot.com/2010/05/senators-pois...
anon is like Eric Holder. He doesn't have to read something to know he doesn't like it. He just has to be told by his overlord that he doesn't like it.
Story, you've got too much brain power to be wasting it here. I'd much prefer reading your comments on the issue rather than against troll-baby here.
Well, you're assuming they have standards.
Puppet-like
"There is ONE test …you either have the skills or you don't! "
Looks like that is changing.
I would call it a cult….But I'm just a dumb hick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKXhCGjCOh0
"…I (?) think he's asked one in the past dozen years…"
So that makes you about twelve?
And you’re off topic, and by being so, you’ve validated
John Shu’s claim that Democrats should vote against Kagan …
Kagan? Obama puppet #2.
This is a fraudelent answer. Thomas doesn't ask any questions, which means anon is BSing.
Would YOU choose a newly-minted surgeon to operate on you? Or would you insist on the most highly skilled, most experienced surgeon available?
After all, you only have one life. We have only one Constitution, and too much is at stake to let a newbie hack it into pieces.
I was inclined to give you a thumb down, but did not.
Problem is that those elected representatives who would vote up or down on any nominee lack both the intellectual and tragically the moral depth of character to do a good job.
Evidence the fact that virtually none of them will even read a bill before they vote on it. Hell, they don't even write the damned bills, they sub-out that job to their favorite lobbyists.
OK, let's hear your analysis of a specific Thomas opinion. Prove to us why it's so awful.
Also, please quote a specific question–in context–that Thomas asked during any Court session, and explain why it's not relevant.
love the spin,………there VOR,…………
how about,…… once in a while,…….. opining about the topic at hand.
but in case ya can't,………..try this tangent,……….
will she get the exposure that these guys got,……….ay,…….??????
Kagan herself criticized the Senate Confirmation Process as being a rubber stamp, and herself encouraged that the Senate should stonewall any nominee that stonewalls them. Of course, when she wrote all of this, she had her eye on the confirmation of Justices that were likely to be Conservative. (any guess as to if politics influenced her opinion there, folks?) Her politics are *extremely* Liberal. Yes, Stevens was Liberal, but one who was not a lock step "Socialist" Liberal. He was a free thinker that would vote in ways that Kagan could not.
It's the Republicans that will facilitate her becoming a SC justice that,……….
will be the nauseating part of this chapter.
Sorry, but Justices on the Supreme Court aren't suppose to be "original thinkers". They are SUPPOSE to apply and follow the Constitution. I think you are confusing Originalist with original. Originalist is one who FOLLOWS the Constitution.
The ones that do will find themselves out of a job!
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RACIST!!!
we can only hope!
How many more painful days til November?
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/author.php?thomas
Curiously, it took, what, four seconds with that little-known website called "Google" to find a (long) list of Justice Thomas's opinions (and of his concurrence), a list whose length gives lie to this moron's "he's incapable of writing one" comment. It would be nice if people would bother to look up fact before asserting something as being true — particularly when it takes so little to disprove.
Oh, and if you aren't capable of following the link, I'll summarise: it not only lists the dozens of Justice Thomas's opinions (where he wrote the opinion of the Court), it links directly into letting you READ each one in its entirety.
Again, reading, using Google — I know these things are evidently outside some people's capabilities, but it would save us all a lot of time having to listen to people claim things that are demonstrably false. Dislike Mr. Thomas? That's fine, if you disagree say that — but stating "he's incapable of writing one", when he's written dozens, as evidenced, is the mark of (willful) ignorance.
anon,……..????
anon,………..???????
Oh anon,………????????
where are you anon,…………?????
anon:,…….. I'll be right with you in a minute,……………I'm just cleaning the shit of my shoes.
So, anon, who told you not to respect Justice Thomas? was it your mommy? Your schtick is becoming tiresome. This KaganSkank, and let's be clear, has no relevant experience to decide law that would affect all our lives. Course, you like being told what to do, what to say and how to live.
This year the number of Democrats in Congress is going to sharply decline. Giving Kagan a hard time might mean Obama having to nominate someone genuinely centrist (or even conservative) down the line.
I'm no expert on Congressional politics, but I just don't see the Democrats giving her a tough time.
Nobody really reads your posts, anon; not with seriousness. They skim over most of them because they know you're clueless and will offer little to nothing in the way of independent thought.
Then they decide: do I want to punch-bag him today or not?
Evidently, that poster did not.
Good one, dude. (But in this case, it's true)
We only read anon's posts in order to provide the facts that demonstrate that his wild eyed accusations and rants are based on nothing mre substantial than wishful thinking and an untreated and undirected case of Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Propaganda cannot go unchallenged.
Actually, ANYONE nominated with such a blank slate of a record and only 50 years old (who could serve 25 to 40 years on the bench) should be very carefully considered. A bad decision would be with us a long time.
You know you're hilarious, Chicago. I just KNOW you know it.
Bingo, Gillan.
That's why they like her–that 'empty-slate' kinda thing that can be receptive to all those leftist hormone injections, in order to thwart any real thinking.
I was not responding to anyone. My post was separate and originally posted first. i was commenting on the article and the generality of appointments.
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Actually, since he is on the Supreme Court, he is fit to serve.
Actually, you are the one confusing "originalist" with "original." I never said Thomas was not an "originalist", just that he wasn't an original thinker. By "original thinker" I meant able to think on his own. I
wasn't saying he was not an originalist. Thomas is an originalist, as am I. He just isn't a good writer and doesn't strike me as particularly insightful. He's good for a vote, but that's about it. Scalia does most of the heavy-lifting on the Court for the Originalist position.
insects like her are into power and getting more into power everywhere under the veil of social justice.She shouldnt even be teaching school kids.Thats the truth no matter who says what.All minoriites are LIFTED into power nowadays with no prerequisites required.Personally I'd put a purple skinned trannie in office if they had the credentials to back their claimed viewpoint and would vote conservatively,which means in the best interest OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRY – not the minority.
Really?? You REALLY think he's not able to think on his own?
Like you can't think on YOUR own. You should listen to him and read his writings, and not just spout the Lib Talking Points about him (the same ones that have been going around since he was nominated). Pathetic troll attempt. And then you actually claim YOU are an Originalist???
Hhahahahahahhahahhaaaa. Good joke there.
"Qualifications?'
Really, Mr. Shu! How boring! How last-century! How utterly un-evolved! How … how … how uncool !
Wake up! This is the Age of Obama! Lack of experience … lack of accomplishments … callow, ill-informed youth … these are not disqualifications, or even negatives! These are resume enhancements !
After all, you could make the same exact criticisms of Barack Obama, and look how splendidly he's doing!
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I haven't studied the issue thoroughly so I am probably wrong, but I was under the impression that one reason Thomas doesn't get more chances to write for the majority is that he is TOO original in his thinking. Didn't Scalia criticize Thomas for not having more respect for stare decisis?
Thomas' problem, I hear, is that he is more than willing to overturn previous decisions that he thinks are fundamentally wrong. And when he does that in an opinion, he loses support from the other Justices.
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Sarah know what the hell she's doing with energy and the community organizer in chief Obama is too busy collecting money from BP to do anything about it. Drill baby Drill, but do it carefully we say.
ah,.you ought to see me after a few beers.
Hey thanks for the friendly tips, I'm sure Democratic policy makers will take your views "under advisement." By the way support for the woeful Harriet Myers for SCOTUS officially renders all Republican tut-tutting about "qualifications" as meaningless.
How do you define "carefully?" Up to the hour of the accident BP was telling the world what great stewards of the environment they were. Sarah Palin is a know nothing nincompoop who thinks that American oil companies sell the oil they get from the Gulf to the US market, whereas all oil companies sell all the oil they drill to the world market for the best price they can find. Just shut up about Sarah Palin OK?
Good boy?/girl?, dAnconia.
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Good *, dAnconia.
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You a racist
Obviously you are a racist since you don't like what Mr. Shu says
Oh I doubt that, the only thing they love is themselves
Kagan's qualifications are simple. She is a good little puppet that will do as she is told becasue she was bought and paid for a long time ago.
If you could dig deep into this woman's background you would find unexplained sources of income akin to Hillary's idiot savant skills at cattle trading.
A puppet for sure, but not Obama's, look higher up the food chain
Mr Shu – have you beensmoking something today?? The lemmings will vote for who they'vebeen told to vote for.
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Every time I see a picture of this militant, lesbian, chewbacca I wonder what planet she came from. She fits the bill for Obama's requirements, an American hater who never accomplished much in life.
Nothing new to learn from you, anon. You're a vapid, abusive and abrasive asshat who just spews the same old lies and insults over and over again.
Obama: I bla bla me bla bla me bla I bla myself bla I bla me bla bla bla me bla myself bla I bla me bla bla myself bla me bla I bla bla bla bla I bla myself me me me…
Meanwhile…
Iran gets the bomb…
Inflation will skyrocket…
Calderon insults America…
The oil spill is coming ashore…
Illegals are killing Americans…
Unemployed numbers increase…
The Feds missed another terrorist bomber…
16,000 New IRS Agents to Enforce Health Reform…
YOU LIBERAL DEMOCRATS HAVE GOT TO BE THE STUPIDEST MORONS EVER!
TRAITORS – Enemies of America… http://usataxpayer.org/?0072194997
Obama Wants America to Fail… http://usataxpayer.org/?0045109198
I just hope Kagan recieves the same result that Myers did. Although I'm not holding my breath – elections have consequences, and this country will suffer for the shortsighted decisions of those in the country that were naive enough to turn over the wheel to King Barry.
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Another mentally emotinoally deranged spinster woman with no life of her own. She has absolutely no business in charge of anyone else's business, much less in a court of law!
word!
sorry, been hanging around my teenage son too much lately!
not only does she have NO judicial experience, and very limited actual legal experience, but apparently she has written a grand total of 3 law review articles in her entire academic career.
3.
THREE!!!!!
Good God Almighty, I believe this woman is actually LESS qualified for the job she's up for than Barry was. I didn't think that was possible!!!
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