Court-Packing, Chicago-Style
by John ShuPresident Obama, Senator Reid, and Speaker Pelosi showed their ability to ruthlessly ram through their legislative agenda with a combination of procedural tricks, sleight-of-hand, and painful arm-twisting, all of which could happen again. They also hope to have a Supreme Court which will rubber-stamp their legislative agenda and thus guarantee its long-term survival. If one agrees with Santayana’s “those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it,” then it is instructive to examine the way that President Franklin Delano Roosevelt viciously attacked and tried to control the Supreme Court in order to secure his New Deal agenda.

In 1935 the Court struck down as unconstitutional certain parts of FDR’s New Deal. The essence of the Court’s common-sense reasoning was that Congress, the legislative branch, may not avoid its lawmaking responsibilities and punt them to the President, the executive branch. Moreover, the Court in Humphrey’s Executor v. United States, 295 U.S. 602 (1935) further irked FDR because the Court held that FDR had to follow the law and could not arbitrarily fire a Federal Trade Commission commissioner, Mr. William Humphrey, a Republican whom FDR believed did not support the New Deal with sufficient enthusiasm.
FDR did not like that, because his New Deal depended on creating a massive federal regulatory bureaucracy within his executive branch control. So, on February 5, 1937, FDR announced his infamous “Court-Packing Plan,” directly attacked the Supreme Court, and planned to stuff the Court with his loyalist lackeys. FDR followed up with a March 9, 1937 Fireside Chat where he said that America needed his Court-Packing Plan and “must take action to save the Constitution from the Court, and the Court from itself.”
On March 29, 1937, the Supreme Court bowed to FDR’s unprecedented political attacks and decided three cases in favor of the New Deal. By 1941 the Supreme Court’s “Four Horsemen,” Justices Butler, McReynolds, Sutherland and Van Devanter, were gone, leaving no one who dared speak truth to power: that Congress cannot shirk its constitutional responsibilities and that the president must follow the law. Thus, the New Deal Juggernaut rolled full-steam ahead with no one left to protect the American people from the huge federal regulatory bureaucracy that still pervades every aspect of American life and even spawned a new area of law, Administrative Law.
Today there are and will be many legal challenges to the Obama-Pelosi agenda, including health-care, financial regulation, cap-and-trade, immigration, and whatever else lurks in their legislative pipeline.
When it comes to Supreme Court confirmation fights, however, the media often focuses on the nominee’s controversial personal problems, if any, and on hot-button social issues like abortion.
This time, let’s try something different. I expect President Obama to announce his Supreme Court nominee within the next week or so. Let’s raise the level of discussion and carefully analyze the nominee’s views on, for example, issues such as limits on executive branch authority and Commerce Clause power. Let’s also be mindful of history’s lessons. FDR’s hunger for rubber-stamp justices hurt America. President Obama may nominate whomever he likes, but we must not allow the Democrat Senate to bully us into accepting a rubber-stamp justice, or, even worse, a justice who self-rationalizes manipulating or ignoring the Constitution in order to impose preferred political or policy preferences from the bench.






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This is right on the money. The FTC and EPA are circumventing congresses lawmaking responsibilities.
Buckle up. Remember, Sotomayor was his first choice. The next pick is further down the list.
Colasguy
You are right on and there are others , see – Hage v. the US –
In the State of Washington the Dept. of Ecology is pushing through the biggest land grab in the history of the State — all because , they were given the job of the legislators .
These are ‘60s radicals! FDR will look like a mere piker compared to the creeps now holding the reins of power. We have much to do!
How again, can we stop this?
Just curious…
& the FCC announcing, in unprecedented defiance to the SCOTUS, that they would be
classifying the i-net as a freakin' UTILITY, so they might regulate it.
Sotomayor looks like she's on a high school field trip.
Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud come out.
Agree with Mr. Shu, it's one thing not properly vetting the POTUS, it's quite another animal when it comes to the SCOTUS. We're basically just two votes away from an unrecognizable U.S.
You saying the worst is to come? And here I thought dodomyor was the bottom. She clearly doesn't even know what the Constitution is.
Great article, a heads up if you will.
We should fight each and every nominee … Remember what the liberals did to Bush nominees.
The Supreme Court is the only enforcement power the people have when government start lying to them. Who actually reads the Constitution, well maybe more these days, now that Beck began his socialism monster quest.
Maybe before Beck, but more are waking every day it seems.
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What Relationship to Liberty does a Judicial System have in a statist/socialist/plutonic government?
What Relationship to Freedom does a Judicial System hold within a statist/socialist/plutonic government?
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Bureaucratic power as it is now is bad enough, but at least in theory they are executing laws enacted by Congress within the limits of discretion the law sets for them. They are also under cabinet departments headed by secretaries selected by president and confirmed by Senate. Congressional committees also exercise oversight on these agencies.
The truly frightening thing about the Obama administration is his attempt to circumvent even this with “Czars” that have actual policy making power rather than as advisors. Health bill and finance bill will give huge amounts of power to agencies and “independent” boards – that is boards not under any congressional oversight. They will, in effect, have usurped the power of congress to make law and disenfrancised all citizens.
We don't even have to go the assassination route M8, people drop dead of heart attacks every day,
even young men. How many folks presumed to be in good health find out they have a fatal illness
every day? We may not presume all these Justices will live to be old men and women.
Scary thought when you look at Justices Thomas and Scalia. Maybe the Judiciary Committee should
question SCOTUS candidates on their fitness routines, especially the conservative ones.
That is the plot of "The Pelican Brief". Good novel. I missed the movie. Of coures, in this plot the power behind the assasins is an evil chemical company.
Fake scandal campaign to coerce retirement or followed by impeachment is more the Obama and radical congress style. Hard to intimidate top legal minds in lifetime jobs, though.
Too many Republicans always support Obama's nominees. Weakling Cowards, afraid to fight.
Ask yourself about all of the "self fulfilling prophecies" coming out of DC lately…
Cap and Trade, oil rig disaster.
Wall Street regulatory bill, "mysterious" stock market slide.
Immigration Reform, Arizona bill 1070.
Health Care Reform, the bill is "dead", oh wait no its not…
Front door of supreme court closed due to "security concerns" about potential terrorism…?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/0...
Coincidence…?
Anyone connected with politics does Not have good moral standing.
Yes, yes, yes……….WLR………exposing the corruption and scandal of his opponents was
oHugo jr's M O in his first election campaign, which he won due to the withdrawal of the
opposing candidates.
There are WAY too many "little coincidences" happening every day now…
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/0...
There are WAY too many "little coincidences" happening every day now…
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/0...
There are WAY too many "little coincidences" happening every day now…
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/0...
There are WAY too many "little coincidences" happening every day now…
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/0...
A great question that is never answered!
Just keep me in a glass case with a sign that reads “Break Glass in Case of War”.
Good idea, but does it really matter? Would it not give those whom would have the most to benefit the opportunity to change the mix of the court. Would it not be true that the Justices themselves determine when their time is up. If there really is only 1 justice that stands between constitutional law and a liberal statistic agenda, would it not be true that we would want all 4 Justices to wait till a conservative administration is in office?
What of the efforts by FDR to replace the Justices? Was he not successful in replacing 4 of the 9 in his time? Are those 4 still ones that are holding onto their position in hopes of a liberal administration before they make the choice to retire?
It would seem the founding fathers might have been more wise than we think…
Remember, the purpose of our constitution was to set up a republic such that no majority can gain a foothold to oppress the minority. What we are witnessing is the effective use of our governmental controls to build majorities on the behalf of the statistic minorities to pass legislation that they can just walk away from.
In short, the Founders built a protective wall or "safe zone" from allowing groups to oppress one another. The statists have been able to figure out how to infiltrate that safe zone to inject their legislation. They then walk away knowing that one into legislation, it cannot be reversed with ease.
In short, our Founding Fathers have build a wonderful mechanism to try to deliver Liberty that the liberal socialists have figured out a way to make it a trap to ensnare their oppressive legislation. Thus doing that which the Founding Fathers had worked hard to prevent, giving that which is earned to those whom do not earn without consent.
Publius
And as I predicted…..A new round of e-coli in the food supply. From AZ no less.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_on_bi_ge/u...
And as I predicted…..A new round of e-coli in the food supply. From AZ no less.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_on_bi_ge/u...
An elderly lib being replaced by a much younger and more vigorous lib eliminating the possibility that we could swing that seat anytime soon.
Right now, they don't have to look the other way. Most of them agree with what's happening. They all expect an expensive government sincure job when their useful time as congresscritters is done. After all, who wants to make speeches all day when they could sit in front of a government computer and surf porn?
Looks like Pelosi is hiding up her robe.
"My father is no different than any other powerful man — any man who's responsible for other people, like a senator or president."
"Michael…You know how naive you sound…senators and presidents don't have men killed."
"Oh, who's being naive, Kay?"
You have to wonder just how far away we are from a nuclear "accident"….
Time to get the facts out on your opinions on how this country is being managed and destroyed by this administration:
http://www.teapartynation.com/
The race is on. Which comes first, the 2012 elections or civil war? How long will Americans sit, holding their temper while the tyrant goads us on, dares us to do something about it. I do not advocate war, it would be an awful thing. BUT – we are free people or we are not.
We live like subservient subjects today and leave the fight to our children or we do what is right regardless of the short-term suffering we'll endure. This guy in OUR White House needs to stop f@&king with us or we'll have no choice. Let's hope and pray we get to deal with this the right way – the 2010 and 2012 elections.
What worries me most about many of the "R's" is that they seem to be very easily "used" by people that do not serve the public interest.
Lindsay Graham case in point, that guy has a for sale sign pinned to his lapels…!
Agreed. I in no way support the idea of using violence to resolve the issues we are facing – of which there are many.
It does seem, though, that our President wants something to happen. Let's face it, he's an intelligent person. You don't get to be President without having some smarts. That's why I don't understand his attitude. He laughs and mocks opposing viewpoints, he reportedly called Tea Partiers the derogatory term Tea-Bagger (imagine if a judge called a Liberal before the bench a Libtard), he's called seventy percent of Arizonans and sixty percent of Americans "misguided" for supporting the enforcement of our immigration laws, he ignored a majority of Americans and championed a mandate that forces citizens to purchase a product that they may or may not want. The list goes on and on. He's a smart guy. he knows that there has to be a reaction to this stuff.
So, why does he do it? What is his goal when he mocks American citizens? Is he trying to force a negative reaction? I just don't get it. At this point there is no legitimate way for Progs to hold onto power. There is no legitimate way for Obama to be anything more than a one term President. It's almost scary – they have nothing to lose. What will they do next since they have already lost?
What is most frightening is that he commonly uses the precise language that he accuses others of supporting and GETS AWAY WITH IT!
The duplicitous nature of his words conceal an outright disdain for the American way of life all the while he claims to be supportive of it.
The fact that the media caves to his every whim also conceals a deeper agenda that the people are being distracted from and that should scare the hell out of everyone.
We must be civil but it is the duty of every American to question this level of duality. especially from the CIC!
I fear that the die has been cast and the American people have taken the bait.
God help us all.
All very good ideas Mr. John Shu . I especially like the idea of discussing the Commerce Clause power at length. But I'm afraid the Republicans simply don't have the power to stop whatever nominee Obama decides to pick. The only positive note is that at this point Obama can only replace a liberal with a liberal and thus the balance of power will not be changed.
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We may be able to step back from the cliff if the next two elections are fair because we already know those elections will result in pushing these socialist scum back down into the mud from whence they came. But if Obama makes illegals legal and Puerto Rico becomes a state and the elections are stolen on behalf of the socialist then war or state secession will inevitably come because there are too many of us who would rather fight and possibly die than be made slaves.
all it is is another lib being replaced with another lib on the bench
When the Supreme Court decided that women had a right – and somehow that has translated into a right paid for by my tax dollars via Planned Parenthood – to kill her unborn child, they lost all moral authority to dictate to anyone what laws to live under. That's pretty simple, isn't it?
Still leaves room for even further leftward drift.
The RINO Republicans do not have the stomach for a fight. The yellow in their belly, and the weakness of their spines always get the better of them. Remember recently the threat of an "all nighter" got them in line pronto.
A better idea is to have a ground swell of people asking Mr. Obama: Where is your ORIGINAL SIGNED BIRTH CERTIFICATE? Then, no matter what has been done, "including health-care, financial regulation, cap-and-trade, immigration, and whatever else lurks in their legislative pipeline" is null and void – instantly – null and void. If he cannot answer one simple question honestly the he needs to be impeached.
& the FCC announcing, in unprecedented defiance to the SCOTUS, that they would be
classifying the i-net as a freakin' UTILITY, so they might regulate it.
Lord, save us. The deck is being stacked against the American people and most of them are too damned blind to see it.
Psalms 109:8
There is no way to stop it right now unless some democrats in the house and senate take a stand. That is doubtful
I agree. The courts should enforce the limits on executive branch authority. Obama is running the country with creepy executive orders and abusive bureaucratic agencies like EPA, FDA and now the new Accountable Health Care Organization.
I don't care how many women are on the court…just as long as they are of good moral standing…getting harder to find ANYONE with those qualifications anymore!!
I don't care how many women are on the court…just as long as they are of good moral standing…getting harder to find ANYONE with those qualifications anymore!!
filibuster … and win the Senate in 2010.
Does anyone here wonder about the possibility of political assassinations in the near future in order to stack the courts…?
Nothing seems to be outside of the realm of possibility near the CRIME SCENE that is this White House and Congress anymore and I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it was to happen.
Replacing one Lefty with another, though aggravating is not catastrophic. Of course I would prefer
to see more conservatives on the SCOTUS, but that has its dangers also.
The danger we face now is our Senators lax attitude when the vetting process begins. Our new
media does a far better job of digging out information on these candidates past rulings, attitudes,
and associations than do the Senators OWN staff. There are times I am convinced their staffs are
infiltrated with Leftist Dimorat operatives.
What I fear more than these radicals appointing their Leftist buds to the court, is the propensity for com-
promise when we have a Republican POTUS appointing new Justices. How many of the candidates
appointed by R's have turned out to be closet Libs? Too damn many!
The problem we face is our Congress's resistance in accepting any information from non-traditional
sources as evidence. In fact it seems they take particular glee in discounting outside information, even
though doing so makes them seem like doddering old fools.
They show their true colors as the self proclaimed aristocracy of the United States when they refuse to
do thorough research, but base their Judiciary Committee questioning on the candidates own testimony.
Assuming / believing Leftist won't lie under OATH is a BIG mistake our Senators frequently make.
They will, they do and they have.
FIGHT on PATRIOTS ! ! !
Replacing one Lefty with another, though aggravating is not catastrophic. Of course I would prefer
to see more conservatives on the SCOTUS, but that has its dangers also.
The danger we face now is our Senators lax attitude when the vetting process begins. Our new
media does a far better job of digging out information on these candidates past rulings, attitudes,
and associations than do the Senators OWN staff. There are times I am convinced their staffs are
infiltrated with Leftist Dimorat operatives.
What I fear more than these radicals appointing their Leftist buds to the court, is the propensity for com-
promise when we have a Republican POTUS appointing new Justices. How many of the candidates
appointed by R's have turned out to be closet Libs? Too damn many!
The problem we face is our Congress's resistance in accepting any information from non-traditional
sources as evidence. In fact it seems they take particular glee in discounting outside information, even
though doing so makes them seem like doddering old fools.
They show their true colors as the self proclaimed aristocracy of the United States when they refuse to
do thorough research, but base their Judiciary Committee questioning on the candidates own testimony.
Assuming / believing Leftist won't lie under OATH is a BIG mistake our Senators frequently make.
They will, they do and they have.
FIGHT on PATRIOTS ! ! !
Sorry I was going to edit the post and accidentally deleted it instead…
Right On!
She should have never accepted clothing and a White House party for her AFTER her confirmation. A wise Latina woman who is OWNED by Mr. Obama.
Very true. Congress is looking the other way while Obama usurps thier powers.
Drudge's photo of Elena Suprema Kagan looks more like Dame Elton John to me. She certainly does not "look" like America, if that's still the progressive mantra. http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100504/capt.9f289fc7a4...
I know Justices have lifetime appointments to insulate them from politics and I agree with this. However lifetime terms greatly magnify the power of Justices, Which also makes every appointment of a new Justice a tooth and claw partisan battle. Also, lets face it, some Justices hang on way too long.
I propose a constitutional amendment limiting Justice terms to 15 years (renewable if President re-nominates and Senate re-confirms). Long enough to preserve them from political pressures of the day, but short enough to increase the turn over. With the court now at a 5-4 split on the most critical issues, a single new justice could decide the political direction of the nation and lock it in for the next 30 years.
Cornpone, you are right on….I also fear the Republicans give in too fast and allow the Dems to
have their way…Dems won't give up the fight, and they'll get as mean and nasty as needed to
get their way….The Dems won't give up, and the R's always seem to cave in….I hope the R's check out
any and ALL of Obumbles picks and if they are too radical, that the R's don't give into the Dems
pressure of namecalling and lieing…..
Cornpone, you are right on….I also fear the Republicans give in too fast and allow the Dems to
have their way…Dems won't give up the fight, and they'll get as mean and nasty as needed to
get their way….The Dems won't give up, and the R's always seem to cave in….I hope the R's check out
any and ALL of Obumbles picks and if they are too radical, that the R's don't give into the Dems
pressure of namecalling and lieing…..
On one side of his mouth Obama is talking about 'tea-baggers', but on the other side he is talking about promoting many 'carpetbaggers' to as many posts as he can…Don't forget, for every law congress passes, committees and department heads make 10 rules to enforce what congress came up with.That's where the real power is, and that is why Obama is "packing" the whole political landscape with his friends.Even if the democrats lose congress, these appointed people can twist the laws around or just ignore them.
"IF" there were a supreme court assassination do you think the people would actually recognize it as such or would they believe an "act of terrorism" before they considered that possibility…?
Personally at this point in time, I don't think the people would connect the dots if they were obvious to see and they would likely buy the GE/PMS-LSD in order to spare their conscience the possibility of such a thing.
We are in great danger and I am beginning to question whether or not the people charged with protecting members of the supreme court would do so "selectively"…
JA
Winning the Senate in Nov, seems to render "academic" a nomination fight in July…
As TARPON is suggesting.
This is all too "creepy" convenient…
Missy8s: "At every turn when he enjoys the "opportunity" to raise himself above the level of debate he seeks instead to deepen the level of incivility."
Alinsky: "…the organizer must begin the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning hostilities, and searching out controversy. The first step in community organization is community disorganization.”
Let's hope that we keep our civility as a nation.
I agree that one way or another this disaster is coming to a head VERY soon and the outcome will decide the fate of liberty for the entire world.
Without the existence of a robustly moral America the world would easily slide into tyranny once more and nobody would be left to stop it.
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Ted Kennedy politicized the Senate judicial vetting process with the King Tut hearings in 1987. Most unfortunate, and that should be stopped. Though looking too much like Victor Buono is very close to a disqualifying trait. The old process sans a Senate hearing worked just fine.
Last sentence…
Yep, yep and double yep!
Given the truly radical and anti-democratic viewpoints of Barry, every single Republican Senator should filibuster the confirmation hearing. Anyone Obama is going to choose is simply not right for America, based simply upon the agenda of Barry being the one doing the choosing.
no they aren't. the people that are not online looking this stuff up, reading about it, or going to school for that matter, are all the democratic welfare queens and entitlement state workers.
They don't care if it destroys the country. They simply don't. All they want is their money, their welfare, and their entitlements.
People that are on welfare, should not be allowed to vote.
At every turn when he enjoys the "opportunity" to raise himself above the level of debate he seeks instead to deepen the level of incivility.
As the "leader of the free world" he fails to set new benchmarks of bipartisanship in favor of new lows in discourse.
This is beyond ignorance and it points very ominously toward an ulterior motive separate from the will of the people and separate from liberty itself.
Traditional Liberals do not worry me as much as revisionist progressive activist. I would welcome a Liberal who would stand for the rights of the individual over government or a liberal who would stand for free speech. Those are not the choices we will be offered we instead will be offered the opposite of a liberal, a Progressive married to the idea that Government is the ultimate bestower and limiter of rights. A defender of the beleif in benevolent tyrany
This circumvention by the FTC, EPA and now the FCC, as cornpone correctly pointed out in this thread, is being done with Obama's blessing and probably by his direction. Obama, and his fellow Marxist in the legislative branch, have found it difficult to pass their radical agenda despite large majorities so they are more than happy to allow these agencies to back-door the process in order to implement their agenda. It is not their preferred method as they would rather legislate it, but as in the health care legislation they have shown us that the ends justifies the means so if they have to regulate through these agencies because they can't successfully legislate it they will.
What if Hussein pulls a Hill Clinton and nominates Sara Palin for SCOTUS!??
Drudge's photo of Elena Suprema Kagan looks more like Dame Elton John to me. She certainly does not "look" like America, if that's still the progressive mantra. http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100504/capt.9f289fc7a4...
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No matter how extremist Obammie the Commie’s choice is the hapless
Republicans will once again rise to the occasion and rubber stamp
their approval. Can someone tell me why they almost always approve of
leftist Democrat choices with nary a whimper while the Democrats fight tooth and nail against ALL Republican choices. Makes me want to retch.
Hopefully one day they will grow a backbone!
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Aw why not let them have their little games with those emanations from penumbras and other spiritual crystal ball gazing stuff? Someday, consrevatives are going to have to deal with the fact that the SC is a lousy piece of constitutional failure because it fails to balance anything being a construct of political people and political(not legal) motives and agendas.
Let's take Obama at his word and reform the courts -all controversial decisions (petition of ?? is trigger) subject to 60% of public approval.
No appoiinted judges -random selection – 1/3 may not be lawyers – two year terms (the constitution is not that hard to understand — it is the case law and European law BS that has created the difficulty.
A term limited Congress shall have no lawyers seated ( they may serve as an advisor board only) conflict of interest.
No ex -government politicain may serve in any business related to government upon termination of duty.
Weak ideas, admittedly, but it's a start.
Frankly, I think a king is better governing structure than an idology. At least there's a chance of getting a benevolent king. I haven't seen a benevolent ideologue.
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The President absolutely can fire any member of any "independent" agency and even as a conservative I say FDR should have ignored the Court. If they are under the executive branch, they are the President's subordinates. If they are under the legislative branch, then Congress has unlawfully delegated its power.
Usually you find that these agencies are like tens of little Supreme Courts themselves, unelected and unaccountable. They ought not to exist.
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there are at least 2 women justices, both of them are black who would be a credit on the SCOTUS. Neither of them are Dr. U's pick
Obama likes women because they dont physically intimidate him and his thin shoulders like a broad shouldered red blooded American male does
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