Was Democrats’ Health Care Strategy Written In Federal Prison?
by Joel B. PollakOn August 31, I headed to the health care town hall meeting of my congressional representative, Jan Schakowsky (D-IL). I suspected that she planned to stack the meeting with paid organizers, after she vowed on Real Time with Bill Maher to bring “millions” of people into the streets to support the so-called “public option.” So I brought a video camera.
A friend and I took turns filming protesters on both sides of the issue. We caught an organizer from the group Health Care for America Now (HCAN) instructing followers to block dissenting views: “So if they stand up and start asking questions, and you’re in that area, simply stand up, and start chanting… ‘Health care now! Health care now!’”
My experience at Rep. Schakowsky’s town hall meeting that night convinced me to challenge her in the 2010 election. I had already stood up to Rep. Barney Frank at Harvard University, when I asked him about his role in the financial crisis. I could not simply watch thugs drown out the people of my own community back home, and do nothing.
The HCAN video became a YouTube sensation, the “smoking gun” in the controversy over which side of the debate was “Astroturfing”—i.e. creating a false image of grass roots support. I have since discovered that the video contains clues about how the entire nationwide health care campaign was planned and executed by congressional Democrats and the White House.
It turns out that the organizer in the video is John Gaudette, the Illinois director of HCAN. Gaudette also works for a left-wing group linked to ACORN called Citizen Action/Illinois. Rep. Schakowsky sits on the Policy Council of the group, which suggests that she may have known about or even coordinated the suppression of her own constituents’ views by HCAN.
The plot thickens.
Rep. Schakowsky’s husband, Robert Creamer, used to be the leader of Citizen Action/Illinois. He also founded its predecessor, Illinois Public Action, in which Ms. Schakowsky served as Program Director. He runs a political consulting firm, the Strategic Consulting Group, which lists ACORN and the SEIU among its clients and which made $541,000 working for disgraced former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich.
Creamer resigned from Citizen Action/Illinois after the FBI began investigating him for bank fraud and tax evasion at Illinois Public Action. He was convicted in 2006 and sentenced to five months in federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana, plus eleven months of house arrest.
While in prison—or “forced sabbatical,” he called it—Creamer wrote a lengthy political manual, Listen to Your Mother: Stand Up Straight! How Progressives Can Win (Seven Locks Press, 2007).
The book was endorsed by leading Democrats and their allies, including SEIU boss Andy Stern—the most frequent visitor thus far to the Obama White House—and chief Obama strategist David Axelrod, who noted that Creamer’s tome “provides a blueprint for future victories.”
In the book, Creamer draws lessons from decades of experience on the radical left, including the teachings of arch-radical Saul Alinsky, and several episodes from Rep. Schakowsky’s political career. He also lays out a “Progressive Agenda for Structural Change,” which includes a ten-point plan for foisting universal health care on the American people in 2009:
- “We must create a national consensus that health care is a right, not a commodity; and that government must guarantee that right.”
- “We must create a national consensus that the health care system is in crisis.”
- “Our messaging program over the next two years should focus heavily on reducing the credibility of the health insurance industry and focusing on the failure of private health insurance.”
- “We need to systematically forge relationships with large sectors of the business/employer community.”
- “We need to convince political leaders that they owe their elections, at least in part, to the groundswell of support of [sic] universal health care, and that they face political peril if they fail to deliver on universal health care in 2009.”
- “We need not agree in advance on the components of a plan, but we must foster a process that can ultimately yield consensus.”
- “Over the next two years, we must design and organize a massive national field program.”
- “We must focus especially on the mobilization of the labor movement and the faith community.”
- “We must systematically leverage the connections and resources of a massive array of institutions and organizations of all types.”
- “To be successful, we must put in place commitments for hundreds of millions of dollars to be used to finance paid communications and mobilization once the battle is joined.”
Creamer adds: “To win we must not just generate understanding, but emotion—fear, revulsion, anger, disgust.”
Democrats have followed Creamer’s plan to the letter. They have claimed our health care system is in crisis despite polls showing the overwhelming majority of Americans are happy with the care they receive. They have—with the help of President Obama—circulated false horror stories about Americans dying for lack of health care and health insurance.
They have targeted the health insurance industry, with Rep. Schakowsky herself promising to “put the private insurance industry out of business,” though it is a top employer in Illinois.
Democrats have cut deals with the pharmaceutical industry and the American Medical Association, among others. They have brought in the President himself to tell wavering “Blue Dog” Democrats that their re-election chances depend on passing health care reform. They have bused in SEIU members to town hall meetings, and used rabbis and pastors to back health care reform from the pulpit.
They have used a complex, interconnected web of organizations—including HCAN and Organizing For America, the former Obama campaign arm—to whip up support and silence opposition. And they have benefited from hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising to convince the public to support bills that their representatives have never read themselves.
Creamer wrote his plan in 2006, explicitly proposing that it be carried out in 2009, once a “progressive Democrat is elected President” and once Democrats could count on 60 votes in the Senate. It is curious that Creamer, sitting in prison, could have predicted the details and the timing of President Obama’s legislative agenda so precisely.
The likeliest explanation is that Creamer helped design the Democrats’ health care strategy. That would explain why President Obama made health care an obsession in 2009, when it was only one among many issues he raised on the campaign trail in 2008. It would explain the role of several overlapping left-wing groups, including Creamer’s own Citizen Action/Illinois.
It would explain why HCAN was particularly aggressive at Rep. Schakowsky’s own town hall meeting. And Creamer’s involvement would also explain his high profile after being released from prison. He worked for the Obama campaign, training volunteers at “Camp Obama.” He has continued his work at the Strategic Consulting Group, leading “many of the country’s most significant issue campaigns,” he claims. He was also at the White House state dinner last month—together with Stern, Axelrod, and other cronies—despite the fact that ex-convicts are usually barred from such events.
Creamer’s broader aim, as laid out in his book, is the “democratization of wealth” in America and “progressive control of governments around the world.” As he recently wrote on his blog at the Huffington Post: “If we succeed in winning health insurance reform we will have breached the gates of the status quo. We will demonstrate that fundamental change is possible. Into that breach will flow a wave of progressive change.”
It is a radical agenda, making use of Rep. Schakowsky’s public profile, a network of far-left organizations, and Creamer’s old friends in the White House. It began in federal prison, and has unfolded exactly as intended, over the protests of thousands of ordinary Americans across the nation. It will not end with health care. It will continue until Mr. Creamer’s Alinskyite dream of radical change is realized—or until voters stand up and put a stop to it in 2010.






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How the HELL do WE THE PEOPLE get these criminals our of OUR WHITE HOUSE????? We need to put a STOP to this NOW!!!!
Criminals, all of them. Andrew Breitbart and Glenn Beck, fighting to save our country from these socialist freaks.
Thank you Joel for bringing this to our attention! Creamer can't vote (or shouldn't be able to as a convicted felon) but he can go to the White House???
Watching Beck now, and he credits Breitbart and is rolling out this story. What would be wrong with a CONvicted felon writing a fundamental book in prison, one creating Progressive change. Don't all great authors get a jump start to their lagging careers in prison? Adolph Hitler did when he wrote Mein Kamph……..
Get’em Breitbart, and Beck. The Marxist are going bonkers, with your assault on the hive. What fun!
big whoop–how lame–the repubs have have followed this same plan in the opposite way—they say healthcare is a commodity not a right–they have done all of this themselves
I would have laughed at those bullet points a mere year ago.
Does this REALLY surprise anyone……..??
and stop lying beck and breitfart that the country doesnt want insurance and health reform–you all lie
While it is interesting that the plan might well have found its genesis in federal prison, I am much more concerned with the end of it. If we cannot/do not shut it down today, this massive new entitlement will be incredibly hard to budge–even if a more conservatively-conscious Congress comes into office in 2010.
The communists are here and they are succeeding. I feel revolution coming. It's thick in the air.
Devastating. I met Joel at Red State. You go! Let's knock them out in 2010.
Gaudette looks like a paunchy prick who probably spent his youth starting with people and when it came down to it, talked his way out of every fight . You can just tell people who were never punched in the mouth. They're so…soft.
Hey, IPB… I assume that stands for Ignorant Pre-pubescent Buttlick… you're too much of a moron to even understand this debate.
watching GB cover this right now…wow…this is truly scary how organized this complete manipulation of our government really is. Now how the heck do we stop it? Felons in the White House? Well gee seems fitting considering all the other thugs and criminals in positions of power not only in the administration but congress..
Folks, this bullshit is a real time Call to Arms.
Excellent article! Something tells me this will not be the lead in the "lame-stream" /elitist media.
They are ALL (pols and media) corrupted crooks and nuts. It is definitely time for "change"………kick all these left wing loons out and get this great country back to why it became great in the first place. ie the ONLY place on the planet that attempted to NOT be a socialist system or run by tyrants and/or dictators.
Once people are living on entitlements, they begin to not care about anything but where their next check comes from. People think capitalism is corrupt, wait until the statists take over.
Glenn Beck is talking about this on today's show on FNC. This has gone too far, these people must be stopped or our Republic will be lost. The Japanese, the Russians nor the islamofascists couldn't take the country down, it seems that will be done by PrezBO and his ilk. Sad.
You can't VOTE tyrants out of office. It's never been done in the history of this planet. This is going to have to be done the hard way. The problem is, soft, beer swilling, historically uneducated, Americans simply don't have the sand for it.
Or do they?
70% don't.
Are you Algore and too stupid to savvy simple math?
Get off your lazy a$$ and get a job that provides healthcare!
Are we still believers in odds? It is becoming evident that not only is there a progressive conspiracy in DC ( see transparency in Government, ala C-Span), but the media has no proven to be a lap dog and cheerleader for the global ends time after time.
It's time to press your state legislatures to hold a Constitutional Convention and ban those who practice trial law from entering.
It's time we put all these politicians in prison so they can write all the "books" they want to in there. Let's make them all "authors", shall we?
Full out treason on the American people, when will someone in Washington DC have the balls to arrest these people? Or, do we have to rely on the military to force these traitors into their prison cells?
The time has come to impeach them all. Vote them out one by one. What they are doing to this country is unbelieveable. It's the Chicago Mafia mentality. All they can think about is passing health care so Obama can add it to his resume when the lot of them need to focus on jobs, jobs and more jobs. Obama has no experience nor do the Obama gang he brought in with him. Voting "Present" half the time he was in the Senate does not count as experience, since he apparently could not make any type of decision. Sounds just like Afghanistan. They are mobsters, every one. Obama the puppet and his puppet masters Summers, Emanuel, and Axelrod.
Healthcare isn't a right. It's services for compensation.
Can we do anything? I keep banging my head against the wall at every turn. I have protested, blogged, flew to washington, participated in the San Antonio tax day protest and spend money I do not have to try and get our representatives to listen. Nothing makes a difference. NOTHING. There is still way too many people who wont stand up and/or they do not think obama is a bad guy.
Nothing seems to matter.
We shall see. The time is upon US "for all good men to stand up and be counted"………..
Do not be deluded into thinking that 2010 elections will do anything. Even if the Republicans sweep the House and Senate, Obama STILL has veto power and Democrats will keep enough seats to prevent any changes. Further, once all of this HealthCare and Cap and Tax legislation is enacted (and a lot is already) it will never be repealed. Finally, if the Republicans have such great answers, where were they for the 8 years that they HELD a complete majority? They did nothing to help deter issues then so why would you think they'll magically turn around and fix any issues in 2010? They won't for the reasons I've already mentioned – mainly because they can't. And for the angry citizen: Sadly, history has shown that marching, tea-parties, and petitions did not stop Stalin, Mussolini, or Hitler either. YOU HAVE ONLY TWO CHOICES: either 1) accept this new Marxist/Socialist government that will control your lives from cradle to grave or 2) read your history books to figure out what does work to STOP a tyrannous Marxist government take over. There is no in between, as history will tell you over and over. Your choice.
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The people of this country are reaching the breaking point, and things are going to get ugly soon. Out here in rural America, we've been stocking up canned goods and trade goods all summer. As well as reloading equipment and plenty of dry powder…..
Maybe real reform, not a Marxist take over industry, see what Hitler did between 1934 and 1938 and see the relationship bfore a Soros funded further clouds your thoughts and your will becomes their's.
Is it too early to tell the obamabots:
"WE TOLD YOU SO"?
Amen!!!
Arthur Laffer, the great economist, thinks it can be overturned in a weekend.
WHEN THE HELL IS SOMETHING GOING TO BE DONE WITH ALL THESE PROGRESSIVE JERKS???? BEFORE ITS TO LATE?????
It's not that we don't want some form of healthcare reform, it's all of the liberal big government baggage that's attached to it that stinks of socialism and political dominance. Plus the fact that they are forcing it down our throats when the majority of Americans truly do NOT want this. Bigger government has never solved anything!!
"2) read your history books to figure out what does work to STOP a tyrannous Marxist government take over. There is no in between, as history will tell you over and over. Your choice."
There is only one thing that works effectively" LEAD.
This will not be pretty, or fun.
You want to know what motivates Congress' opponents. THE DESTRUCTION OF THE DOLLAR AND THE FREEDOMS OF THE UNITED STATES, HYPOCRISY, AND CORRUPTION. And its not just Obama, it is all of DC and those in government, from local to national. They are all getting drunk off power.
JOHN MURTHA, is the next target by watchdog http://www.americanparchment.com, in their fight to expose ‘31 Corrupt Politicians in 31 Days.’ Now this guy is corrupt, he has had dozens of friends, that have helped him or that he has help unethically, have gone to prison and yet he is still in Congress. He is not just in Congress he is the Chairman of the Defense Appropriations Board. Remember Murtha Airport, what about the other contracts he was being investigated for… released when Democrats took over. What does he have on these people? Also check out, Rep. Barney Frank, Gov. Sanford, Sen. Kent Conrad, Rep. Maxine Waters, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, and Sen. Ensign. And hopefully Max Baucus is next.
Can we do anything? I keep banging my head against the wall at every turn. I have protested, blogged, flew to washington, participated in the San Antonio tax day protest and spend money I do not have to try and get our representatives to listen. Nothing makes a difference. NOTHING. There is still way too many people who wont stand up and/or they do not think obama is a bad guy.
Hell yea, we have the sand for this! We are losing our Republic to a bunch of Commies and Socialists. I'll fight for what our Founding Fathers fought against over 200 years ago.
The government has fired their opening folly, we need to return some fire their way.
Read my BigGovernment story "SEIU: Building a New American Health Care Empire" to see an SEIU health care strategy powerpoint presentation from 2007 – it's entirely based upon Creamer's Prison Plan. Coincidence? Me thinks not.
http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/16/seiu-building...
I can't help but think the time is fast approaching when the shooting starts. Between this revelation and the EPA's "endangerment" finding on carbon dioxide today, the assault on our liberty is nearly complete.
They don't, but there are some of us that have the sanction of the Constitution if it has to be the hard way.
I read so many comments "Kick them out of office". I have to laugh… how are you going to KICK THEM OUT? You aren't. And they won't go willingly. You can't VOTE them out because the elections are rigged (thanks ACORN). And even if you do Kick Them Out, you won't be kicking enough of them out to do any good. Talk is cheap and easy. How much do you value your freedom? Hint: never before in the history of this planet have tyrants and dictators EVER been voted out of office. And if they were willing to go they would have voted for the term limits clause. Guess what – they didn't. BIG HINT THERE FOLKS. So… while America chugs down on cold beer (like they're told to do on TV) and engrosses themselves with the latest football scores and while we watch Dancing With The Stars with bugeyes open and mouths open with drool coming out … the nation plunges into a socialist dictatorship. We're half there already. It's already done and you don't even know your history…
So, if Glenn "crazy like a FOX" Beck is correct, the Stimulus bill was drafted by The Apollo Alliance, headed by convicted felon Jeff Jones. If Joel Pollak is correct, and the Obamacare plan was designed by convicted felon Creamer, then which convicted felon thought up Cap & Tax?
The sleeping Giant has just been shaken and is now awake….
Exactly. You do not know your history lessons. Otherwise you'd know better.
There is only one way to stop an entrenched now in power Marxist from converting a republic into a serfdom, forget the admirals and generals to stop him. The people with the help of a few good PFC's and Lance Corporals will I fear have to do this job themselves if they want freedom for their kids and grandkids!
Don't give up – that is exactly what they want us to do by ignoring us. The momemtum is building in our favor. Take every opportunity to talk to neighbors and friends.
How many newly founded Communist/Marxist governments have murdered how many of their citizens? If you don't think it can happen here, you must be smoking more crack than Obama is these days.
The first shots have just been fired in this takeover of our country.
Give us a brief history lesson re #2.
I completely concur – this will be terribly ugly.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
And I think I've put on 10 lbs. since Obama was elected! The heck with the canned goods, ha!
I cannot do that. You have to do that.
I could hardly catch my breath while he was talking…I was mad as hell!!
The Left is continually outed as being conniving, crooked, corrupt and apparently perpetually planning and 'organizing' toward true evils be beset upon the U.S.
While the Right has faith in general — that the nation is and will remain "free" and our Republic will endure — so we go about our lives in trust and work and family and faith and sports and other enjoyments of what leisure time we have, all the while the Left is busy working toward our downfall.
Which is why we on the Right end up asking questions like "how do we rid ourselves of these people??" and things of that nature. We're surprised to continue to read just how debased and corrupt the Left is, as if it's something new or newly exposed, catching us off guard.
For those of us who are law abiding, we vote. Even that "election" process is now called into question, unfortunately, such that even voting seems like an impotent action (it isn't, but it does often appear that the decision of the majority is routinely overlooked, and/or that there are growing numbers of the haplessly impressionable who vote for the Left by way of whatever fools them most easily – which also tends to exhaust confidence for the rest of us in the election process).
We can "vote them out" but "they" remain in the nation conniving toward another opportunity to despoil us. So we, on the Right, really do have to pay closer attention to what's taking place beyond a law-and-order concern, right in our own neighborhoods. All the various social issues seem to point back to agitation by the Left, who uses these social issues to attempt to deflate confidence in American voters (we're called "bad" or "greedy" or "racists" or "haters" or whatever else the Left can throw about). I think it's time to stop paying attention to those insults and start taking more aggressive actions in our home towns, neighborhoods, with public schools, local elections, everything.
It can be overturned but it would need a republican president and 60 republicans in the senate.Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
It's time to lock and load!!!
We need some politicians who are willing to die for their country. Right now all we have is a bunch of gutless wonders. Its now wonder that congress is being circumvented by the so called czars.
Sadly I think not. If the sleeping giant has been sleeping until now… then nothing will wake it. What exactly does it take? We've been through TARPs and ACORN and bank handouts and the takeover of the auto industry and the takeover of the banking industry and radicals in the White House and 50+ Czars that can bypass Congressional power… and the giant still slumbers away… the beer is cold, the game is on TV, so who cares?
Game over.
You're so clever with the Breitfart line! Such razor sharp wit! How can we possibly argue with an intellect like that? I an in awe of your prowess and breadth of knowledge on this issue.
Obama is acting as if he doesn't care about re-election since by that time our country will be a military dictatorship and we will be stuck with this ass for life. Remember smoke and mirrors folks
overload the system.
It's ok to be American It's good to love our country. Stop apologizing and start standing up!!
Every soldier and generally a lot of police officers take an oath to uphold the Constitution. They do not swear allegiance to the president or members of Congress or the dollar bill.
There is one thing… insure the STATE votes for it's own independence.
Thank you Glenn Beck ~ we must stand up to fight for America!
There is one thing that can be done… initially: insure your state votes to keep it's sovereignty.
“Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,”
If this heath care scheme passes we're under their control – they can even ban guns as a health hazard. Add cap and trade and stick in the fork. We are a clump of cells to them – they're turning us into serfs.
THEY MUST BE STOPPED!!!
If you qoute Mark Levin from his book you should give him credit at the end of your post.
If the Republicans had any guts or courage, they would simply make a show of force (any big bill vote) by standing together and walking out without voting. This would send an enormous message. And they should keep doing it until it is painfully obvious, to ALL America, what is going on.
Such a simple idea – why aren't those Republicans doing something like this? Hmmm… that really bothers me.
This is beyond disgusting isn't it? Question: Leftist women always seem to choose the most vulgar and vile men to marry don't they? WTF?
The problem with your statement is that there isn't anybody in congress who represents the right. All you have is the left-leaning Republican party and the even more left leaning Democratic party.
The first step is for the people to take back the republican party and quit letting party hacks tell us how to win elections by running moderates. then we take back the country. Tell McCain and the rest of the RINOs to go join the libs that they routinely vote with.
Entitlement is the sword that will mortally wound capitalism. As capitalism goes, so does America. Stop holding your hands out and put them to work.
[...] Big Government has the exclusive story, and Glenn Beck followed up on it this afternoon. (Video below.) You may recall over the summer a video of a healthcare town hall meeting of Rep. Schakowsky. A number of HCAN activists were present and some instructed people on how to drown out any voices of opposition to the democrats’ plan to take over health care. It’s quite possible that Rep. Schakowsky arranged for HCAN to be there. Talk about Astroturf. Schakowski’s husband has close ties to the Illinois director of HCAN. The plot thickens. [...]
The Democrat's health care propaganda campaign and dictatorial tactics in the legislature aren't sitting well with the American people. We won't tolerate their bullying and their efforts to shove their mandated government-run health care down our throats. If they think the Tea Parties this past summer were raucous, just wait and see the hell that gets raised if these thugs pass this bad legislation against our will.
It will pass. They will not be stopped. Hate to say it but America LET this happen.
Listen people…we need to go to the streets just like they do. We can not go back to sleep. Look to real conservatives like Allen West who is running for congress in Florida District 22. Thank God for Andrew Breitbart…keep it going Andrew.
Sadly I think not. The time came a LONG TIME ago and America slept, and still sleeps. No one is going to be voted out… because the votes are not there. Especially when ACORN can create votes out of thin air and everyone lets it happen.
Agred!
No, you are the liar. We do not want it. 80% or more people are happy with their insurance. Only the lazy DFLs want to screw other Americans.
While both are reprehensible, i think you'll find "Mien Kampf" to be fascist…
I was cleaning my rifle barrel when he came on, a good 2 hours at the range and now I'm worked up again! These guys are really making a 3 year run to the islands look very very good. I talk to people every day that think Obama is the best thing on Earth, I have to hold my tongue because this is business but I keep them on very tight credit limits because they are the first to fold.
Well next year I am going to plan B, convert all my employees to 1099, give them a raise and let them buy their own health insurance. Most of my people will be in the “Rich” category with the move and they will get to enjoy the worries more that I do. Then I get rid of FICA and matching plus unemployment which is going not to mention the workers compensation for Florida that I pay even though most of my people travel. If that still has me in the bad category with the IRS, I can always go to India or the Philippians. Keep the core team and let the rest go.
Felons making the DFLs decisions. You are making all the tax cheats worried they are losing power.
The clock is ticking.
Bust some arse on these liars and crooks – PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD!!!
And the left has appointed radical judges and Soros has a PAC now to put dems in as secretaries of state. They have turned my red state of Colorado blue! And they will move on to the next state.
If I remember my history correctly, it only took 3% of the Colonist defeat the English King.
LOL, agred
In talking with my neighbor who was a RINO and voted for Obama, he though and still thinks he is a good guy. WTF? There are so many people who have their heads stuck in the sand. Too busy with their lives to have a clue!
That is what we call, a brain-fart. Ass-hats produce them all the time.
oops, actually meant "ogred"
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If it were so important it would be full deductable from your personal income tax return, or even a credit for buying it yourself but no they won't change that little law.
I really want to know where all those people that are dropping dead on the street are because I travel the world and have seen bodies in Africa dead from disease but never in North America. I must not be driving down the correct streets. Please give me the address where all these dead people are, I have a deal on caskets that will kill you, but I have to buy them in gross so let me know so I can go sell them.
Whos gonna cover this news so that the regular folks know?
Rikr, I thought the same thing. I think it might have to do with not making money writing about your specific crime that got you into jail. I am not a lawyer or from the bureau though.
Yep, Oathkeepers.com
Keep in mind that Soros is 79, he should be close to kicking the bucket then they will have to find a new Billionaire. I'm read to step on his O2 hose now.
The Republicans have a 200 page solution to the problems in health care. I know they can't be heard in the congress, but damn it, why aren't they shouting it from the hill tops? I would guess that most Democrats don't realize the sleaze that is in their party…or maybe they do…but they need to be called out on it. I feel so helpless even though I have contacted my Senators several times they are moving ahead. HELP!
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I bet you that most Americans will continue to set on their collective asses and watch this GREAT COUNTRY fall like Rome did. We need to come together and stop this madness NOE!
I can smell it. Our dear leader's BrownShi*t Army is on the move.
Most of us do not want to give our bank accounts over to the healthcare Czar so they can draft their fees from it, as clearly stated in the current bill. Most of us don't want to be forced to buy healthcare and under the current bill you have to buy it and if you don't there is a fine and if you don't pay that fine you got to jail for up to 15 years! I don't remember reading any of that crap in our Constitution. I can imagine a George Washington raising an army to stop this "Charity".
Freely giving is Charity, giving at the barrel of a gun is theft!
It seems like a fair idea, but I'm worried that the entire SEIU/ ACORN structure will prop him up like an evil "Weekend at Bernie's"
What, George? You like to ruin the dollar and a martini? You're such a party animal, Democrat Party animal!
Actually without the Pelosi & Reid dynamic duo I think several Democrats would cross to ratify the repeal espically when unemployment goes up. You will need a majority to over ride the Obama veto and there is the problem.
I just don't understand why something can't be done about the corruption in this administration. Has it gone on too long and too far to correct it and the people that have the power in government don't have the courage to correct and are letting it slide because of that? It's just not right. They should all read Psalm 94 where they will all be held accountable one way or the other eventually by the hand of God
It's never a waste of time to keep pressure on the politicians.And it's not over til it's over.Reid would'nt have come out with his slavery comment if things were going his way.Keep up the pressure.
The sad fact is that it was probably over for America the day the RNC forced McCain the Moderate down our throats.
The GOP would have to present a younger, personable candidate who can win sometime within the the next six months, backed by a billion dollars in campaign money to defeat Obama in 2012. (Face it, the only one out there now is Palin. The rest are either old hat or damaged, like Huckabeee.)
They'd also have to have a stable of viable conservative Republican candidates for EVERY open seat in 2010, with enough money to back them properly.
Another Chicago creep out to destroy America as we know it.
Ever notice how short and weak looking liberal "men" are?
In the end the joke is going to be on these fools, they think big government is such a good thing.
We could only imagine the looks on their faces when it comes for them.
Your right about the majority.I can't believe that a lot of these democrats wouldn't be doing what they're doing if they were'nt cowards.But I think that the comments comming from Reid today tell me this is far from a done deal.
The first step is going to come from Governor Perry in Texas. Texas has the unique status of being the only state that can legally succeed from the union. From that LA, OK, MI, AL, TN, SC will go with them along with Alaska. That will draw the battle lines and Perry said that if healthcare is passed he will start to pull the switch.
This could get very interesting very quickly.
Everyone who is upset about this should write, call and visit thier congressman. Mitch Mcconnell, senate leader from Kentucky needs to read this article. If everybody sends it to him maybe he will check it out. His email is
http://www.mcconnell.senate.gov
It's Illinois, even the dead vote there, a felon can vote as much as they want
Send this article to Mitch McConnell the Republican leader from Ky. His email is http://www.mcconnell.senate.gov
Joel, THANK YOU for exposing this. I don't live in your state but I will be contributing to your campaign so we can get this crook and her crook husband out of Washington. I encourage others to help out Joel Pollak too! Send him to congress!
Obama is no different than Hasan. He is just as much a radical Muslim as Hasan and perhaps even more! Obama and his Chicago mob are clearly out to kill America, not by shooting us, but by implementing all these crazy spending policies and programs. They may as well all be Radical Muslims. The prisoners in Gitmo and terrorists abroad get more respect and more rights than what we will have in America if Obama keeps getting his way. He is using the Democratic party as his pawns and because of their "adoration" for Obama, the Democrats are being sucked right in. Lord, help us all, as I believe many Democrats are being brain-washed or bargained with and know not what they are really in for. This administration needs to go, but I think more Democrats have to fear Obama's wrongful ways in the transforming of this country as the rest of us do in order for an effective impeachment to take place at a Constitutional Convention. Wake up Democrats!!! Obama and his clan need to be forced out of office!
Everytime something this major gets exposed finally, I see folks get angry, blog their fears and blog their "When is someone going to do something!"
Well! What are we going to do? Just keep sitting behind a stupid computer keyboard and let all this happen?
get organized people! join www Oathkeepers.org, or a group like that that is looking for all peaceful means possible to put a stop to all this going on.
Do it NOW!
Actually no, they are NOT lying. Health Insurance REFORM, maybe. But socialized health care? NO HOW NO WAY. If you want to live under socialized medicine, do all of us a favor and move to England or one of those burgs.
I found a shortened version of the event, read it, and haev sent it on to my email list. Thanks!
Now I am off to read about the Battle of Blair Mtn.
I have been feeling the same thing for a while. WE CAN'TWAIT TILL 2010!!!! I propose turning the tables on the Socialists in the White House. The Media has allowed this to happen. Large chunks of our citizens don't watch cable(Fox) news and are oblivious to all that is going on. WE should ignore our representatives, they aren't going to listen to us anyway. We need to go nuts on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and all the rest. They are going broke because of their liberal slant. If WE THE PEOPLE protested their places of business in an organised way. And demand the NEWS and not propaganda, I bet we could sway one to leave the pack. If one goes, so will the others. THAT'S WHAT I SAY…
Doubtful. SEIU represents most of the prison workers; when it's not SEIU in that locality, it's AFSCME (which works in partnership with SEIU). LOL
State law actually controls that aspect – for example, in California, state prison laws ban inmates from profits on the sale or trade of their own works while incarcerated (art, books, music, etc.). Most other states, likely Illinois as well, follow a similar state law. But that does not stop an inmate from creating – in this case writing – something that is then later sold for profit once they are no longer incarcerated.
It's a worthy observation but it's unfortunately not a fight worth taking on…it will be better to keep standing up and speaking out, but most importantly we all just have to keep educating everyone about what's really going on. Everyone must become a citizen muckraker. Expose corruption and abuse at every turn until it cannot be ignored any longer. Keep it constant and do not let up pressure. There are more of us good patriots than there are of these crazy socialists. Keep educating and they will wake up and engage.
If that is the alternative, how does one organize it? We have no one state to gather in, no border to protect. We are each in our individual homes, ripe for Obama's National Corp to prey upon. We have no underground communication I am aware of, and unlike 1776 , methods of surveillance will easily thwart us. Hell, heat senors in coptors can ferret any hidden conclaves. I absolutely believe in the American spirt and will, but we barely have figured out how the hell to protest, let alone coalesce into an effective fighting force. I guess I just need to seek out militia and such in my area and hear their game plan. I have money set aside for food andf mmo. Guess I best start spending it.
Is that oath not the oath that the entire Congress and the President and the VP vow to obey….and are flipping off as they sit? However, I dont know and figure the Czars never took any such oath. Just look at the power of Cass Sustein has now if the EPA forces our government to act on Cap and Trade. I'm with rckmom……locked and loaded and ready on my porch!!
SLOW down COWBOY…..I got the answer…….let us 60's their asses, REMEMBER, protest everything and anything, talk shit in store lines, get pushing and obnoxious, yooooou knoooow. like hussein and acorn. it worked then it will work now, hell look what it did for that RAT / TRAITOR john kerry.
Being a newcomer to the computer scene, I am quickly seeing the benefit of instant communication. Let
me say that the revelations today about Creamer's attendance at the State Dinner are indeed startling and
extremely troubling. It's too bad that the voting public did not see the socialist trend coming before elect-
ing Obama. It was there to plainly see, but the liberal media wasn't a bit interested in investigative
journalism and enlightening the public. Now we have the trojan horse to deal with and it is deadly.
This government is dysenthizing everything just like Hitler, Mao and Stalin and most dictators.
And in this, a genuine revolutionary document, is the means that ANY state can secede, tyranny is a reasoned enough excuse to go!
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[...] — what to make of this: at Andrew Breitbart’s Big Government.com, Joel B. Pollak asks, “Was Democrats’ Health Care Strategy Written In Federal Prison?” Robert Creamer used to be the leader of Citizen Action/Illinois. He also founded its predecessor, [...]
Wow, this is getting to the point when I just want to scream WHY!. The real shame is that we can not organize effectively enough to stop this. The people I know just have given up. They all just figure oh well, it is sad but what can I/we do????????????
I set here and understand what is happening but please tell me what I can do. I call my congressmen and senators I live in Michigan so you know what I am going through. I have sent e-mails and calls to other representatives when I send an e-mail I have to get a city and zip code from the state they represent so the e-mial goes through. I hope it is not to late. We truly need some kind of stance. We have to get the media to cover this I can not believe that all the employees who represent the media agree with shit.
If someone out there has any suggestion please let me know.
The Republicans are just as bad. Where have they been? Why haven't they been sounding the alarm? Except for a very few, they have remained silent. They ALL need to go. Democrats, and "moderate"-(meaning look the other way) Republicans. It is time for a revolution. How many Americans are really willing to take this country back? How many have the will? God help us if our will is insufficient.
Here's the video of Glenn reporting on this today @ 5pm: http://tinyurl.com/yjewce6
[...] Pollak recounts Creamer/Obama’s long march: •“We must create a national consensus that health care is a right, not a commodity; and that government must guarantee that right.” •“We must create a national consensus that the health care system is in crisis.” •“Our messaging program over the next two years should focus heavily on reducing the credibility of the health insurance industry and focusing on the failure of private health insurance.” •“We need to systematically forge relationships with large sectors of the business/employer community.” •“We need to convince political leaders that they owe their elections, at least in part, to the groundswell of support of [sic] universal health care, and that they face political peril if they fail to deliver on universal health care in 2009.” •“We need not agree in advance on the components of a plan, but we must foster a process that can ultimately yield consensus.” •“Over the next two years, we must design and organize a massive national field program.” •“We must focus especially on the mobilization of the labor movement and the faith community.” •“We must systematically leverage the connections and resources of a massive array of institutions and organizations of all types.” •“To be successful, we must put in place commitments for hundreds of millions of dollars to be used to finance paid communications and mobilization once the battle is joined.” Tags: Glenn Beck, Obama, Robert Creamer, Saul Alinsky, video [...]
Here's the Beck segment: http://tinyurl.com/yjewce6
[...] today’s Big Government post by Joel Pollack readers were treated to an amazing glimpse into the political strategy that has been put into place [...]
Here is a website that should give us all some answers on how the progressives got into the democratic party. http://www.networkamerica.org/10minute.htm Please everyone read it and pass it on.It might save this Republic if "We the People" follow thru.
I know.. now I want to cry, but instead I grit my teeth and curse @ the TV.
Jennings? Kevin is that you masquerading as "lpb"?
algore
Maybe we can introduce Soros to Dr. Kevorkian… ???
Jeff,
While I absolutely LOVE your idea of converting all your employees to 1099 status, please be very careful. The IRS has very strict rules governing the classification of employees. I strongly urge you to contact a competent CPA to discuss the strategy involved to accomplish your desire.
[...] Big Government » Blog Archive » Was Democrats’ Health Care … (biggovernment.com) – December 07, 2009Between this revelation and the EPA’s “endangerment” finding on carbon dioxide today, the assault on our liberty is nearly complete. @ScottGrovesNC – December 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pm. “Stand Up Straight… [...]
if it is a right it should be in the constitution, if the dems want to make it a right they should admend the constitution having to pass both the house and senate with 2/3rds passing which in the senate would be 67. so why don't you dems just come out in the open and say that the constitution sucks and should get rid of it or have a constitutional convention and change it, but the won't because they are cowards.
Is it still a "right" if all the doctors quit in protest? Obviously progressives have done a pretty good job of snowing you into BELIEVING that health care is a right! I say, sure, you have a "right" to anything you can afford to pay for!
WE THE PEOPLE need to organize a TAX REVOLT. If they insist on shoving this health care bill down our throats, I think WE THE PEOPLE should stop paying our taxes. If done en masse how can the IRS prosecute all of us.
An act of Civil Disobedience may finally get their attention.
We need a couple of crazy rich Republicans, a couple of saavy media/pr people, and some heavy duty tv ad time. Liberals are winning this fight because they know how to affect public opinion. Surely there is someone on the conservative side that knows how to do that as well.
Then we need a voice. Someone who has really not ever cheated on his/her spouse, always paid their taxes, doesn't have any DUI's, exhibits a ton of common sense and knows how to explain complex ideas in a simple way so people understand what is at stake.
Wanna nominate someone?
http://pryor.senate.gov/newsroom/details.cfm?id=3...
December 7, 2009
Press Release
Pryor Adds Consumer-Friendly Tool to Simplify Health Care Choices, Hold Insurance Companies Accountable
Washington D.C. –Senator Mark Pryor today said surveys rating participant satisfaction about their health care company will both simplify a consumer’s search for the right health care company and make health insurance companies more responsive to patient needs. The Senate voted 98-0 in favor of his amendment to strengthen the health care exchanges proposed in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
It's time to press your state legislatures to hold a Constitutional Convention and ban those who practice trial law from entering.
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sure hope you never lose your job and get sick with thousands of dollars worht of bills—then you wont be so heartless—-at least i hope your premiums go up 50%
ooooh the scary socialists—you teabaggers are so easy to scare
yeah keep working so hard to deny poor people help just hope you never need anything
good we'll be sending the fbi out to see you soon
I found Joel Pollak's website at http://www.pollakforcongress.com He has a lot of good things to say. I am giving him my money so he can fight the dems.
[...] Breitbart’s BigGovernment.com looked beyond the reality-TV couple that slipped past the Secret Service to see if any other [...]
[...] today’s Big Government post by Joel Pollack readers were treated to an amazing glimpse into the political strategy that has been put into place [...]
OH, contrare (look it up, dweeb), you scare us not. Piss us off? Make us even more determined to use Alinsky's rules against YOU? You bet'cha.
Theyn know the way, and the coffee is always ready for them……..
Read "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg: fascist IS leftist.
Creamer: “To win we must not just generate understanding, but emotion—fear, revulsion, anger, disgust.”
Yeah, this has always been rule No.1 in the Dimocraps playbook. It's also the gospel of the one who is a liar and thief from the beginning. You know of whom I speak.
And they'll only have one hand to fight with. The other will be busy functioning as a belt to hold up their baggy browns.
After watching Glenn Beck tonight my anxiety level was so high I had to make a trip to the liquor store to calm down (and I don't drink normally)!! I'm feeling so helpless – nothing anyone has done has had any effect on curbing this monster. These socialist/fascist/Marxists control everything – government, media, science, education, etc. I recently had an English professor tell me that the freshman kids that come into his speech classes are totally brainwashed – all of them! They aren't going to help us take back our nation. I've never felt so dejected.
Biggovernment, Glenn Beck, & Bill Orleiy
Two words for the liberals…Sara Palin!!
Are you 9 yrs. old?
Simple-minded dolts like you are the problem in this country. For you, anything would be good simply because it is change. It doesn't matter if the quality of health care will go down, if costs will go up, that corruption will go up, that special interest groups like trial lawyers will be further lining their pockets–it doesn't matter how disastrous the plan is as long as it's change.
thats your answer Palin???really— that shows how stupid you consevatives really are—she is as dumb as a cantaloupe
The Republicans held a complete majority for 8 yrs.? Unfortunately, 9/11 was a defining start.
of course you are spouting all the negative talking points people like Dreck and breifart have convinced you are going to come to pass —u repuglicans are going to cry when the dems are sucessful and in power for the next 100 years haha
When is someone going to step-up and fire the "First Shot"?
oh yeah your leader glenn dreck–did u notice his brownshirt on the cover ofhis book–he does make a nice nazi
[...] Was Democrats’ Health Care Strategy Written In Federal Prison? [...]
It was all a dream. So many people do not accept the fact that Obama and his administration is capable of anything like this. It is all a lie as far as they are concerned. Plus the Democrats have entitled so many people for so long, it is expected. All we can do it get this type of information out to as many people as possible. I posted the entire article on my Facebook. This may be the only way to fight Washington.
Yes re Palin, NO re 2010.
The GOP 2010 canbdidates WILL win in landslides, in most states; count on it.
I think you are ignorant and stupid, I feel sorry for people like you. You could obtain some intelligence by common sense and research. The government is taking away your freedoms and life as you know it and don't appreciate it. If the Dems have their way and you cry in despair and hoplessness, I wil pray for us all, not laugh. It's people like you that will loose this free country that we all love.
You can't stop paying taxes, since most people have them taken out of their pay, BEFORE they ever get it.
OTOH, we DO need to organize and get GOPers elected in 2010.
[...] Was Democrats’ Health Care Strategy Written In Federal Prison? The plot thickens. [...]
I don't know if it can be over turned or not, but we have to vote these people out of office, then maybe we will have a chance.
You go libertymoon, I am where you are as well as millions of other Americans…not waiting for government handouts and not willing to let the WH take away our freedoms. The lies have got to stop!
And a sincere 'thank you" to the liberal troll.
http://www.bornagainamerican.org/index.html
They are convinced they will separate us!!
NOT THIS OLE GAL… LOCKED & LOADED
How much have YOU ever given to "poor people", of your own money, all by yourself; troll?
Psssssssssssssssssssst……………………..poor people get a huge amount of "help" as it is, wshich is why many of them stay poor and demand more handouts.
GOODWIN'S LAW, GOODWIN'S LAW……YOU BROKE IT FIRST; YOU LOSE !
The very first thing we need to do is to tell Michael Steele to lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. We already have one loser in the party – John McCain. He did more damage than can be imagined. We need strong leadership that will get the message out to the base and reform them in a cohesive unit.
Many more people need to become more educated on the agenda and beliefs of the Progressives, and their history. Then all that is happening will make sense and we will be able to stop them. Most people do not realize what their end game is.
Any ideas on how to best explain this to people that spend most of their time on facebook playing Farmville, Aquarium, Bedazzle, and Zoo instead of paying attention to what is happening? Does anyone know how to make a facebook game out of the Progressive Movement and their evil doings? I fear that is the level we need to try to go to in order to reach most people.
FASCISM IS LEFTY; it is NOT and NEVER was anything even approaching "right".
That was THRITY PERCENT !
If it had been 3%, we would si=till be singing "GOD BLESS THE QUEEN" and have government health care already,
Something to think about…why are they setting up our retired military bases for “emergency shelter’s that will house a multitude of people”? They can take us away from our guns and ammo, not take them away from us. While we are forced to live in these “shelters”, our homes will be ransacked and artillery taken away. Who will know if we are all taken away? If we are allowed to finally return to our homesite, we probably won’t have much of a home or arsonal. Sound simular to Hitlers plan? Go to: http://futurestorm.blogspot.com/2009/03/fema-camps.html to read about the FEMA CAMPS.
Is the N1H1 swine flu manmade, for pandemic purposes?
I've been saying this all year long!!! Imagine if we picketed all of the local news stations. Massive crowds. Loud taunts as their news readers come & go at their place of employment. You can't ignore something that is tight in your face!!!
If it is a right, then I am free to NOT practice it, without fear of punishment by the government. A right is something a government cannot give, cannot take away, and most certainly cannot force upon an individual.
You cannot claim a right that is not in the Constitution. Also, the only right guaranteed by the constitution that is a service is the military. Rights are things that the Government is prohibited from taking from you. Life: The Federal Government may not end your life without the forfeit of that right via a criminal act where the death penalty is prescribed by law. Liberty: The Federal Government may not deprive you of the freedoms that lie outside the enumerated powers. Pursuit of Happiness: The Federal Government must do everything possible to remove itself from being in the way of you pursuing what you see as happiness within the confines of the law. Also, "pursuit" is not a guarantee of equal outcomes, only an equal treatment under the law. Since health care is something that must be provided by someone outside yourself, it cannot be a "right". If tomorrow all the doctors vanished that right could not be fulfilled, so how would the government guarantee that right? It would have to force people to become doctors, denying them their right to both liberty and the pursuit of their own happiness. You cannot claim a right that would deny someone else their rights in order to fulfill it. So how about making sure you've thought through your arguments before you hitch your wagon to them.
That figures……………Dems and crooks ( same thing ) are notorious for not paying their bills; just look at Obama, who STILL owes the City of Chicago, for that ridiculous thing he threw, in Grant Part, more than a year ago. He owes the city many MILLIONS !
Another good read on this: http://www.smallgovtimes.com/2009/11/ex-con-count...
She's had you guys diving in fox holes ever since she came on the scene. Why do you think the libs have spent so much time and money trying to destroy her?
Wanting "reform" and wanting what amounts to an eventual government takeover of medical services in the United States is not the same thing. You can shake that straw man all you want, we know it's a fake. If you want to be taken care of cradle to grave by the state you should consider a change in citizenship.
Are you hyperventilating? You need to calm down. Breathe slowly. Breathe shallow. Soon you’ll be required to shut it or pay through the nose for the privilege of spewing your talking points. Won’t that be fun? Along with your high-priced FREE HEALTH CARE, you’ll also be opening your mailbox to find skyrocketing utility bills.
If those of us who oppose this crappy legislation need anything we either work to pay for it ourselves or turn to family and friends instead of asking the government to pick people's pockets for us. Giving someone somebody else's money isn't charity, it's theft.
We need that prison in Illinois to put obama and all his thugs in. Let theother terrorist in Gitmo
Leave the other terrorist in Gitmo
Poor people get help this program will impact that help essentially the plan is to rob medicare and medicaid and put them on a diet then raise middle class taxes to bloat government. The end result is perhaps 15 million more americans eligible for coverage most of who like probably you will turn it down prefering to pay the penalty. My daughter strugling just out of college thought this would be a great idea she could have free health care. Since her total heealth care usage for the last three years has been f trips to her doctor and 5 bucks a month in perscriptions she now understands like you will soon that young people are being SCREWED. Us old 40-60 year olds are the ones who would stand to personelly bennifit the most. No turn down for previous conditions. We are putting our country and your future ahead of our personel goals . Now sit down sonny and let the grownups talk.
If they walk out the dems can vote anything into law without them. As I understand it they can anyway, but does another party have to be present to call a vote?
"Stand Up Straight" sounds like "Mien Kampf". Both books were written in prison about their leftist Utopia plans.
I am not surprised to learn this, not at all. This is a systematic organized revolution that is now in full swing. Health care is one of the many ways to maximize the power and keep hold of the power. It is a Neo-American-Socialism that so successfully executed a grassroots mobilization from the bottom up that so bloodlessly transformed AMERICA, right under everyone's nose, right in everyone's face. But this revolution is going downhill now. They forgot one thing that America is different from China or other third world countries. The majority of the American people know the notion of "by the people, of the people and for the people". They are the real people and they are wakening up. My only question is did Glenn Beck find the re-founders yet?!
We need a better class of troll here.
I read so many comments "Kick them out of office". I have to laugh… how are you going to KICK THEM OUT? You aren't. And they won't go willingly. You can't VOTE them out because the elections are rigged (thanks ACORN). And even if you do Kick Them Out, you won't be kicking enough of them out to do any good. Talk is cheap and easy. How much do you value your freedom? Hint: never before in the history of this planet have tyrants and dictators EVER been voted out of office. And if they were willing to go they would have voted for the term limits clause. Guess what – they didn't. BIG HINT THERE FOLKS. So… while America chugs down on cold beer (like they're told to do on TV) and engrosses themselves with the latest football scores and while we watch Dancing With The Stars with bugeyes open and mouths open with drool coming out … the nation plunges into a socialist dictatorship. We're half there already. It's already done and you don't even know your history…
Bottom line: GAME OVER. YOU LOSE. So lets not have any more of this "lets kick them out of office" girlie talk because if you DID know your history you'd be scared to death knowing that that NEVER works.
I sent this to all of my state "representatives". I use that term very loosely! We all must email this to everyone in our address books and urge them to read it. BUT, a much more impactful email is to your state reps with a promise that if they vote on this, they will, without a doubt, be voted out of office! Then call them, fax them, and call them again.
My guess is most of them don't even have a clue about this. Hell, they're less informed than most of us!
There was a name for this, back in the day. It will prove to be prophetic. It was called "The Killing Fields"……
Read up of the Battle of Athens Tn 1946
I thought, just maybe is there not a law some where about INMATES writing books while incarcerated and making money on them. maybe someone from the bureau of prison can answer that one.
you change your witholding to o with your emplyer and never sign the tax return
Get involved, even if all you can offer is ideas.
Go to your state Republican Party website and start there. You can see who's who, what's happening and what events/meeting are coming up.
I went to my county and saw that there's a holiday party and toy drive. You just need to bring a toy to donate and appetizers will be served (pay for your own drinks). This is a good opportunity to meet other people in the area and to organize. For the first time, I'm going to something like this.
I am familiar with that.
There is something comparable to that in West Virginia, called the Battle of Blair Mountain. The only difference was, that was between Unions Miners and Company Men. History will repeat itself in a weird sort of way. The difference now will be, instead of UNION hands fighting for better rights, free men will be fighting Union thugs………
It is time to out Ipb. I know it is against comments protocol but I am willing to break the rule this one time. Ipb is a 14-year-old sexually frustrated boy who doesn't yet shave, is unsure of his sexuality, and gets his rocks off by posting his drivel on conservative sites like this. He actually lives next door to me and we've had to call the police a few times to report that he likes to expose himself naked at an open window while trying to satisfy himself. Although there has never been any semblance of an erection we are nonetheless offended by his limp routine. Probably he enjoys all of your reactions to his comments so why don't we all ignore from now on. Pst, Ipb, close the shade please. Have some dignity.
I see exactly what you see A3. Every new accusation, every new evidence of fraud, lies, corruption and still it goes on. In about a week this will all be forgotten. Mark my words. Give it two weeks and we will be back watching football. I keep asking my self, what is going to be the breaking point?
I am afraid we will have complete anarchy before people will do anything.
Then the government has your money ( no business is going to NOT take the taxes out of your pay ! ), they know where you work, you don't send in a tax return and they may not get to you right away, but they usually DO get people who don't pay taxes……………even if it takes years. Then what?
Okay, so Obama is gone by then, you didn't really do anything to stop anything, and who knows WHO will be president then? No matter who it is, not paying taxes is against the law and you WILL be punished; they don't care what the reason is and there aren't enough people who can or will do what you suggest.
There ARE other things we all can do, instead. We need to organize, be poll watchers, get out the vote, and if you can't afford to donate money to the candidates, you CAN and MUST work to get them elected, even it is just manning a phone line.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: There are two things that have to be done in order to slay the beast:
1. We must join the effort and help those who are trying to ABOLISH the federal reserve.
2. There has to be a temporary, if not permanent, moratorium on paying income taxes!
Short of that, choose sides and be first to seize the armories! There is going to be hell to pay for the traitors of this country.
Funny you said that, Putin in Russia is increasing his army to over a million because he thinks we are in for a revolution and he probably sees re taking Alask as a good conservative land grab.
The British wore red so the blood wouldn't show. Our dear leaders BrownShi*t Army will be also be wearing brown pants so . . . .
JRB…click on manuel in the article,that takes you to amazon…read the reviews, its all about being "THE GOOD ACORNER".
How many people are concerned that so many people in Obama’s circle, and most he has hired in his administration, are criminals? Corrupt? Tax cheaters? The most extreme leftwing radicals in the country?
Doesn’t this alone tell us something about the man? About his true agenda? About where he really wants to “change” the country?
Is there something seriously wrong with those Americans who support this man? How could anyone in their right mind support a man who has associated with, been mentored by, considers friends, and hires anti-American, anti-human, and anti-freedom radicals of all stripes?
Are Americans so tired of freedom they will do anything to become slaves?
Has America lost it’s collective mind?
not sure if this will help but we need to demand an answer from our democrat senators and congressmen/women…have they read this and do they agree with this plan and if not then they must vote against this healthcare plan. Either they are with them or they are with us on this, there can be no middle ground now! If they are not in on this and are not a Progressive there is no way they can deny what is occurring. Webb and Warner will be hearing from me tonight…second time today as I let them know what I thought of Harry Reid and his disgusting speech on the Senate floor.
if it is a right it should be in the constitution, if the dems want to make it a right they should admend the constitution having to pass both the house and senate with 2/3rds passing which in the senate would be 67. so why don't you dems just come out in the open and say that the constitution sucks and should get rid of it or have a constitutional convention and change it, but the won't because they are cowards.
Joel, you should get a Pulitzer Prize for this investigative reporting piece. You, and BigGovernment.com, are doing something the alphabet-media refuses to do…report the truth and report the news. Good job man. America is behind you. Good luck in 2010. I'm posting your story on all my blogs and I'm suggesting all bloggers should do the same. Get this story out there!
Send to AR Sentator Lincoln @ http://lincoln.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm
and Pryor @ http://pryor.senate.gov/contact/
12/7/09 -Pearl Harbor Day
Senator Pryor:
Please check this out about what We the People "really" care about! Why would we want a convicted felon in the White House!! Are you so afraid to confront the "leaders of this regime" with the concerns of We the People? Do you realize that We the People make or break this country? And that includes you!
Whatever the pressure from "the left"… stand up for America!!
When the time comes… we will remember how you vote for abortions in the healthcare bill… cap & trade… and any other pertinent bills that We the People expect better of you!
http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/07/was-democrats...
Very sincerely,
Rhonda
Good Lord, is there no end to the utter corruption in this White House? Thank you, Andy Breitbart and Glenn Beck!! If not for you two patriots, no one would ever know about the weirdo’s who are associated with this President. NO ONE in the media will touch it and Glenn Beck is the only one on Fox News who is not afraid to pursue fraud and corruption when he is made aware of it. Be careful, both of you. I don’t trust this President OR the people he is associated with. We have to get him OUT as soon as possible! I hope our nation can hold on until 2012 or, if we can take back the House in 2010 we could possibly IMPEACH his sorry a**! Counting the days!
"We must focus especially on the mobilization of the labor movement and the faith community.”
I find the latter portion of this statement extremely curious and clever like a fox. Curious because when have progressives every cared about the "faith community"? They have been working to destroy the "faith community" for the last 50 years. They have stretched the rubber band to the breaking point to prove their version of the separation of church and state. They have done this by making prayer in public schools against the law – can anyone say freedom of religion? They are teaching our children that sexual perversion is not really perverse. They are doing their level best to take Christ out of Christmas. When the hell have the progressives ever cared about the "faith community"?
The answer is – only when the "faith community" is necessary to realize their social agenda. Which leads me to clever like a fox – and the hen house is full of hens. The gentleman who wrote this "manifesto" was correct on this. He knew that the very core principles of socialized medicine would not pass the smell test if they could not convince the "faith based community" that it was a good thing.
The message here is that they know they cannot convince the masses that their healthcare package is a good thing without the "faith community". This should tell the "faith community" a lot. This should tell them that they still have power. But, more importantly, this should tell them they are being used.
People of faith – ministers, preachers, priests and laymen alike, I implore you – do not be used in this political ploy, for you are only a means to an end.
What does it take for the Lame Stream Media to wake up and do some serious Investigative Journalism? I guess those days are gone forever but I have a feeling they be back in a nano-second if we had a corrupt Republican in the White House, instead of a CORRUPT LIBERAL DEMOCRAT. Liberals suck!
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A friend of mine used to work at a computer company that Bob Creamer hired to do some IT work at Illinois Public Action. He said Creamer was condescending and abusive to them the entire time they worked for him, and in the end stiffed his company for well over 100k.
you people are all crazy. listen to yourselves. for God's sake.
I agree with that assessment, I did not get excited about McCain, but the GOP had NOTHING to offer that I was interested in, until Palin came along! I have to say I was Out of my seat surprised…….in a very good way! She actually gave me hope for the first time in a very long time!!
My people act very indepently now and could always be classified as 1099, but I resisted because I wanted to pay them well with excellent benefits. I don't even have set start times for work because they are allowed to live anywhere in the US and that time zone thing catches them on start times. Most of them work from home and have other businesses on the side to take advantage of left overs from the companies big deals. I encourage them all to do something on the side. My vision is that in time they will start their own business with me as their middle man but with the economic down turn that's just not able to happen right now.
We never had a chance with McCain…yes, he is a war hero, however you CANNOT put an old man who can't raise his arms up against a young man who can raise his fist in the air…I knew we had no chance!!
You aren't even good at being a troll.
Everyone here is laughing AT you and just how truly stupid you are. The more charitable, feel sorry for you; though you don't deserve it.
Oh goody, another REICH? When will the stooges burn down some building in D.C. and blamed the GOPers? That's not going to work; not this time. And yes, I do know GOODWIN'S LAW.
Is that you, snakehead? If so, say HI to Mary.
[...] » If you’re still unconvinced that His Oneness has no deadly agenda, perhaps this will convince you, courtesy of Andrew Breitbart’s Big Government [...]
Actually, health care is a service provided by individuals who dedicated their life and time to educate themselves to become doctors. They provide a service and expect to be paid for providing said services. Show me anywhere in the U.S. Constitution, or the Bill of Rights, that makes health care a right.
I sent this to all of my state "representatives". I use that term very loosely! We all must email this to everyone in our address books and urge them to read it. BUT, a much more impactful email is to your state reps with a promise that if they vote on this, they will, without a doubt, be voted out of office! Then call them, fax them, and call them again.
My guess is most of them don't even have a clue about this. Hell, they're less informed than most of us!
I often wonder what our founding fathers would be saying today with the corruption and leftists destroying their wonderful creation. We are all the losers.
hey you ignorant house cat—uh exactly what freedoms are you actually missing you lame a**–how stupid—didnt miss any of those freedoms under bush did ya?
[...] How is it that Obamacare was written by a convict while in prison? BigGovernment.com reported today that the plan to press through a national healthcare bill whether the voters want it [...]
Not my leader. Too liberal. He doesn't want us to hurt you f*cks.
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General Petreus Needs to resign as an act of conscience and run for President. Nothing short of that will blow the whistle that will wake up the country to the fact that somethiing serious is a foot.
I agree with Kyle about putting down arms, this should be a peaceful, democratic revolt. However Kyle these sources are are clearly cited. All of this is documented, If everyone should "just relax" and take it, this would not be a democracy where people have a voice and should be heard. Are you listening to yourself? Are you really Van Jones, Rahm Emanueal? "Just trust us, all will be ok." Everything should be questioned and you should do your own research, don't trust Glen Beck or Valerie Jarrett. Do your own homework, and decide for yourself. All my homework backs up most of what I read here.
[...] Health Care Strategy Written in Federal Prison? http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/07/…ederal-prison/ On August 31, I headed to the health care town hall meeting of my congressional representative, [...]
There is NO written law that requires us to pay federal income tax. It has been proven over and over again. There are ex IRS agents who took their personal tax suits to court, had a jury trial and won! Where the IRS gets you is by signing the tax return. And NO employer can force you to put something on your w-4 form. If you put no withholdings, they are required to do just that. They are only required to take out SS. Read up on it
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[...] who . . . Who wrote the Book of O? Rep. Schakowsky’s husband, Robert Creamer, used to be the leader of Citizen Action/Illinois. He [...]
guys, get ahold of yourselves. stop for a moment. take a step back. relax. for gods sake think about the things you are saying on here. there is no conspiracy. Obama and ACORN and SEIU and everyone else in Washington ARE NOT conspiring against you. let it go. everything's okay. Brietbart and Glenn Beck are full of shit…and they're shoveling it at you…and you're eating up every last little bit of it. for the love of god, excercise just a little common sense and let's think this thing through. i can't believe the comments that are being posted on here. i'm hoping that this is all a big joke but god help me i don't think it is. put the firearms down and for the sweet love of god just relax.
Who is this HCAN guy? The left always finds and demonizes any conservative who criticizes their policy positions – think about "Joe the Plumber." Maybe it is time we started looking up all of the "community organizers" who want to destroy our country.
One way to to stop these kinds of marxist/progressives and their revolutionary plan is to totally silence the administration supporters, and yes I mean totally silence one by one!
a drivers license is a privaledge. so the how the **** do you think health care is a right when it isn't even your right to be able to drive to the hospital?
try reading the news or the polls. 74% of America is happy with their care. Only the poor uneducated minorities are in favor
Unsurprising that the subversion of liberty, of limited government, of free enterprise would be the focus of a criminal and tax cheat while in jail. The amazing thing is that so many fools fell for the sham when presented by a smooth talking but completely empty suit.You can fool more than half the people some of the time. And we will be paying for falling for this narcissistic deceiver for decades to come. Still, as the psychologist, Carl Jung noted, "there is no coming to consciousness without pain."
Survey today — Sarah Palin is within 1 point of equaling Obama in popularity. Get worried lpb…
Not surprising the Huffington Post is publishing his crap. Country is arming itself. Guss that will be the final answer.
For the moron IPB who said we all wanted socialized crappy rationed health care – I DONT. Check the polls – most americans dont. Get a clue.
Check the polls you idiot – the country does not want this tax nightmare rationing of health care crap plan proposed by your retarded leaders.
The Democrats have proven themselves incompetent time and time again. No worries – obama is inept and has no idea what he is doing. Once he completely screws the country up a conservative will have to come in and undo his socialist crap and erase the legacy of the second jimmy carter. Slow motion train wreck = owe-bama
We need to Kick President Teleprompter out of office. Worst President Ever. Is it 2012 yet?????
Yeah and she is polling 1 point behind your 'brilliant' owe-bama. LOL!
Didn't Hitler write "Mein Kampf" in prison?
This is nothing short of a coup d'etat in the US. We are at a cross roads. Free market capitalism or socialism. It's time to stand up, be heard and be counted at the voting booths in 2010.
time to kick all the bas**turds out of office
This is tyranny! The left will ruin our country to get what they want. If the bill passes, the damage done will be hard to undo. My children will not know the same great America that I knew.
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Bravo Joe!
Great piece. There tactics are always consistent aren't they? So is the complete lack of ethics, logic and reason.
I find IPB and all of his ilk to be sooo ingrained in their ignorance and hate for anything conservative that they are rapidly becoming irrelevant. They won't go away, so we need to be constantly on the lookout for them. The rational people of this country need to take it back from the Jackass Party and their liberal/progressive/socialist leaders who will do ANYTHING to aquire power, even if it means the destruction of this country. Since the media is an integral part of their agenda, we need to continue to circumvent them. Elections have consequences and '10 needs to be one of significant negative consequence for the Jackasses.
America is already lost to the socialists. They have come too far to stop now. They will get Health Care and that will give the government control of an additional 6% of GDP. Combine that with increased government controls to limit greenhouse gas, controls over banking, the auto industry and housing, increased spending and taxation, the inevitable increased inflation that will follow and you have a page out of the old Leninist/Alinsky takeover textbook. Lenin said to destroy capitalism you need to crush the middle class between the two grindstones of inflation and high taxation. This is the goal of the Obama/Democratic regime. In this they will succeed. I expect more entitlements, gun control, cap and trade and other socialist initiatives in the near future.
If the American people understood that we wouldn’t just be the richest country in the world but beyond that even for a long time to come if the goverment was completely off our backs. All the goverment needs to do is defend our country and regulate our system to be fair. That’s it. I would only pray that people realize that one day. All the other crap can go straight to Hell. Where it belongs.
The public is being lulled into believing that modifications to the health care legislation in the Senate such as removal of the "public option" and denial of payment for abortions will still exist in the final bill that goes to the President for his signature. That is not likely to happen because when the Senate bill and the House bill go to conference committee, the conference committee is free to re-insert the public option and the abortion items that were removed in the Senate bill. Then the bill goes back to the Senate at which time only 51 votes are needed to pass it before it is sent to the President Obama for his signature. I have been utterly amazed at the response I receive when I tell people how this works. Almost to a person, they tell me that can't be true. Of course it is true, but few people know it.
I seem to recall a young man named Adolf who also wrote a policy procedural book while he was in prison.
Seems he was also a “progressive”.
Yet you are the one that cannot come up with anything orginal or factual…. All I have seen you do in this thread is call names…. Grow up and live in the real world please…
There you go again with namecalling instead of posing an actual rebuttal…. Typical indoctrinated lib talking points there…. Good job, you get an A for repetition and an F for orginality…
Didn't Ghandi also write from prison? We need to stop this Socialist/Marxist/Hindu agenda now!
ACTUALLY most people do want reformation of health care….. the thing that they don't want is the Government take over and provision of said health care….. Have you paid attention to our federal Programs…. Honestly I do not want the same Government that inadequetly takes care of our men and women in the Armed Services (have you been to a VA lately and did you know that most enlisted officers are paid JUST about the poverty level so that they cannot recieve assistance such as food stamps (trust me, I know because the ONLY time I have ever known hunger was being an enlisted dependant under the Clinton admin))….. The Government cannot take care for those already under their charge… like they are going to be able to take care of the other 300 million of us.
Poor people have more help than the enlisted military men do…. you really need to get out more.
Lord, can you please look up what the Nazi party actually stood for…. you might find that there are quite a few socialist ideals hiding in there…
You republicans are the biggest retards I can imagine. Obviously you had no problem with the Karl Rove playbook – frankly, it's still playing out because of the fear you feel. You assign the most ridiculous motives to people. Did it ever occur to you that you can be patriotic, and still believe that our health care system is broken? You're all afraid of nothing. Just because the democrats are incompetent and corrupt doesn't mean they're out to destroy the country and take your guns! The republicans are just as incompetent, and more corrupt.
Guess what – many people in government are sincere about trying to fix what is broken – regardless of party affiliation. Many people in washington understand that and don't believe those on the other side of the aisle are evil. Get a freaking grip.
You want to know who is the most evil in all of this? Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the rest. They do not report news. They are entertainers. And they have found that scaring people makes them a lot more money than trying to reform and fix the system. And you xenophobic, ignorant, racist hicks all play right into theirs and Karl Rove's hand. Go read and learn, instead of listening to Glenn Beck scare you and let's have some real reform in this country. Otherwise we really are headed down the toilet, and it will be as much your fault as anyone else's.
Amen!
Criminals, each and every one of them.
Nice to see how you embrace Socialism Dave, do you belong to the Communist Party?
Was that Cousin Larry in the video?
Maybe we need a doctor's strike if this goes through?
More likely, many doctors will become cash only. They may make less, but they avoid all of the red tape the Barack-rats will issue, and so will their patients. We will end up with a two-tiered health care system.
We definitely need to elect states-rights candidates at the local and state levels to oppose the DC regime.
REMEMBER… OBAMA WANTS TO BE JUDGED BY THE PEOPLE WITH WHICH HE ASSOCIATES! I have done so, and he can step down at any time! It now seems that impeachment is a better alternative than waiting for the vote in 2012!
Here is a hint to the 69,000,000 Obama voters… next time look for qualifications, details, and someone who was not a community planner (especially from Chicago). Oh yes… judge the person by past associations!
Can’t look up, too busy Facebooking, besides they told us in school that is was our duty to vote, they never told us to vote or we’d lose our freedoms!
Nice, you miss the point. He is illustrating the idiots that he is trying to argue with. If you crack open the book, you will see that he points to the cover as the idiot that you will be arguing with.
He is not anyone's leader. He is just a guy that is not afraid to make fun of himself in an effort to expose the dangerous progressive movement that is trying to seize our Republic.
The Nazi party was national socialism, get that, national socialism. If anyone is portraying the national socialist party ideals, it is your fearless leader, Obama.
You get the criminal Communists out of the White House by first getting rid of them in Congress. Then you can stop the head Commie Criminal Obama looting the Treasury with his BS scams and warming myths. Then in 2012 we can him forever and thoroughly investigate all his criminal activities. Guantanamo would be a good place for all them to vacation on bread and water for about 50 years.
I could be wrong, but wasn't Mein Kampf written in prison? Look what destruction it created. It was written be a little weasel that had big ideas that no one thought could ever happen.
Mmm, didn't Adolph Hitler write his book while in jail…..
Thank you, I just wrote that in a post. Mein Kampf is just like this.
The Nazis were national socialist. Fascism is national socialism, get that, socialism!
It is the polar opposite of our Republic.
Could you highlight the pro-Socialist portion of Dave's comment for me?
democrat criminals – nothing new there
the criminal party of corrupt obozo
just like ayres, acorn, rangel and the other liberal/radical criminals
right on
Jeff- Yes, he did…
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Adolf_Hiter_...
right on JRB
Oh no. It's one of those 16th Amendment deniers.
Look, I hate paying taxes as much as the next guy, but the CONSTITUTION WAS AMENDED.
like all of obozo's foreign moooslim buddies – they cant vote, but they can go to the Real American's white house and show their contempt for America
the actions of the America bashing prez continues
more proof of the obozo party of America haters
Sounds like MLM
just as obozo laugh at America when the ignorant elected him to screw America
Ipb are you a US citizen? And your age is?
polls a little tough for you obozo sycophants to digest
America is rejected nobama
America does not want the democrat damage being done to America
Healthcare written in federal prison and people ends up in prison for not taking the healthcare government option. All start and ends in prison. What an irony!
as the hate America crowd of obozo yell – allah obama
LOCK N LOAD
LOCK N LOAD
LOCK N LOAD
Ipb your mentality is what?
as America has seen since the liberal hate America party took over in 11/06 – the democrats has taken America into the tank
liberals and obozo succeeding in killing the America economy
the world is laughing at America – look at the girl put in Italy – if a Real America was in office, this would not have happened
obozo has made America a joke as we are getting killed by his damage being done
[...] Big Government – Was Democrats’ Health Care Strategy Written In Federal Prison? [...]
It won't be long before Chairman Maobama gives him a presidential pardon. And a pardon is saying that the crime never existed and all rights are restored.
politicians in jail – America is all in for that
start with obozo and then rangel and then acorn, sieu, reid, frank and all the other criminals and traitors
put the hate Americans in jail and save America
Join or suport "Oath Keepers"!
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What's really frightening is the possibility that all of this focus on large, sweeping omnibus "healthcare reform" and "cap and trade" bills is really just a distraction, while Dems and liberals quietly pass numerous smaller bills that basically do the same thing.
They are all TRAITERS and are wanted with bounties on their heads. I hope they keep exposing themselves so we know who you are…..
Vote. Talk to your friends and family. Ask them to vote. If we don't stop this encroachment on our rights and liberty by working within our system of laws and redress, we will be faced with the decision about whether to suffer tyranny or throw it off forcibly. Neither will be easy or good. Remember, the price if liberty is eternal vigilance. Be vigilant, remember what you see now, and vote.
Just a reminder, not all thoughts written in prison is automatically wrong.
St. Paul wrote several of his letters from prison!
So keep discussions on ideas you disagree with, not the messenger. More importantly, try coming up with solutions on your own.
Ever heard of Ken Lay from Enron. Ken Lay came up the carbon credit scheme which has morphed in the Cap and Tax bill.
Hey Tim, I'm game, ARE YOU………………………..
Those leftist thieves are worse than a persistant case of frenetic carbuncles.
Was that ever in doubt?
Liberalism is like a cancer. Look at the states that have had liberals in control for decades….when they go bankrupt or tax the hell out of everyone, the liberals move out of their utopia into other states and start the same thing over again. The definition of a moron is someone who tries the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome. We now have the California libs moving into Oregon, Washington, Nevada and Arizona, the Massachusetts libs moving into Vermont and New Hampshire, the New York and New Jersey libs moving into PA and it goes on and on. They screw up their states, then leave because they can't afford to live there anymore, then they continue to vote lib and screw up the places they move to. Hey lpb, if the Dems are in power for the next 100 years, you won't have anybody to be jealous of because we will all be in soup lines gratefully accepting any little crumbs that our all powerful bureaucrats will throw at us. We will all be equally poor and miserable. But because you are a jealous, miserable sob to start with, hope and change will leave you about the same while screwing everyone else. Thanks for making America a better place you scumbag.
Since we are discussing Mein Kampf, why don't we quote it?
"In the years 1913 and 1914 I expressed my opinion for the first time in various circles, some of which are now members of the National Socialist Movement, that the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated."
"In this way the struggle against the present State was placed on a higher plane than that of petty revenge and small conspiracies. It was elevated to the level of a spiritual struggle on behalf of a WELTANSCHAUUNG, for the destruction of Marxism in all its shapes and forms."
"The Jewish way of reasoning thus becomes quite clear. The Bolshevization of Germany, that is to say, the extermination of the patriotic and national German intellectuals, thus making it possible to force German Labour to bear the yoke of international Jewish finance–that is only the overture to the movement for expanding Jewish power on a wider scale and finally subjugating the world to its rule."
Can anyone here find ONE quote where Hitler praises either Communism, Socialism, or Marxism?
It is a matter of historical record that Socialists, Communists, and Marxists were persecuted in Nazi Germany. I can supply some citations if need be, but I am sure most of you will just click 'report'.
I have been watching your posts and I am in awe of your rapier wit, you dolt!!!
Try coming up with something substantive, or sit in the corner and let the grown-ups talk.
I didn't read the article it was too long. but Obama sucks
Go play on a highway
yeah lets kill some commis brother. Get your gun I got mine.
You are an A-hole.
I know this is unproductive, but…Is it too early to start drinking??
Dave,
What problem is there to fix…the math is simple. If we have 300 million people that have access to health care at $2,000 a pop, that is $600 billion per year; the bills in Congress are saying that the cost for a family will be over $10,000 under their plan. That tells me that this plan will start off costing 3 Trillion dollars and and adjusting for 3% per year, that will add another 90 billion to the tab. What is clear is that we cannot afford for everyone to have health care, at least at the level we have it now. If we cut 80% of the cost, maybe we can afford it. Otherwise, we will have miserable health care for everyone that will continue to decline in quality decade after decade that it is implemented. part 2 to come…….
Do you know what is great? This is taken from the second paragraph of the above link:
"Hitler's right to defend himself was used as a means of attacking all those he hated – the Jews, communists, socialists and weak politicians who had lost Germany the war"
Further down the page:
"If he had been a socialist or communist, it is almost certain that he would have received the death sentence."
The page also describes the Nazi party as right-wing.
To wit, what makes you think that the health care bills these morons in Congress have put together will be a change for the better? What makes you think that an unelected government bureaucrat will be better than a private insurance bureaucrat? What makes you think that government is going to be more efficient than the private sector at lowering costs? What are you going to say when your claim is denied, and you no longer have any options to sue…can't sue the government….Right now, the percentage of claim denials under Medicare is twice that of private insurers.
I would like to think that you are not so ignorant of the facts to say that any change is better than any change at all. Health care has a true cost like everything else. I am saying that we cannot afford the true cost of health care for everyone as it will eventually bankrupt our country, based purely on the numbers and with our other entitilement programs. If we are willing to get rid of welfare, and all of our other non medical entitilement programs, we might be able to get it to work. But since that is not going to happen, we are stuck.
In the free marketplace, the price of healthcare will not come down until it is too expensive for the average american and people stop buying it. As long as we continue to fund it, the price will continue to rise. Economics 101. That is why everything the government funds grows at a rate greater than inflation.
Ron Paul is the correct choice. Always was.
We didn't say we don't want health care reform, we said we don't want THIS health care reform.
Lie, lie, lie, no wonder libtards are against school testing… can't think on their own two feet and act like dopes who will fall for anything those crooks dish out. Suckers.
I am with you on that. The only time my family has had to get help is when we were a young enlisted family with 3 kids under 5. My husband worked 2 jobs, I worked part-time we used WICC for a short time. Then my husband took night classes, bootstrap, and qualified for the airman's commissioning program and we made a little more money. That is the great thing about America, if you work hard, you can change your circumstances, or used to be able to.
Under the same health care though. I have 2 children at an Army hospital that had recently killed a woman in childbirth. That wasn't scary. They lost my blood work 2 times, thought I had gestational diabetes, told me not to worry. Yeah that was fun. We just tried to stay healthy.
There are two very important words that need to be said : IMPEACH and RECALL
These words must be said loudly, often, and openly… and nothing more.
(repeat after me)
IMPEACH… RECALL…IMPEACH…RECALL… IMPEACH…
There are enough instances to warrant it, and enough corrupt spineless Congressional hacks to deserve it!
Exactly!
[...] Was Democrats’ Health Care Strategy Written In Federal Prison? [...]
Maybe you don't think they are, but you undoubtedly thought that Obama would govern from the center too. So I think I have a right to question your judgement on the issues. You are one of these people that will wake up one day, and it will finally dawn on you (maybe it won't), that you are no longer free; you live in housing paid for by the government, you drive a car made by a company owned by the government, you work for the government, the government takes 60% of your paycheck, you shop at a government store for food (with empty shelves), your energy is paid for by the government, but they control how much you use, and lastly, you vote for the incumbents in office because they run unopposed and are the only ones on the "approved candidate list". I have heard people refer to folks like yourself as sheep or sheeple. The crazy posts on this site are from people who have legitimate concerns that they are being lied to and that the government is taking away their freedoms step by step. It's all about power; Obama's czars don't care about us, they have a job to do and it is tearing down all of the checks and balances that have protected our country from tyranny.
I am organizing my own anti-SEIU thug gang and we’ll beat them down next time they try to assault another innocent. They won’t know we are there until they try something stupid and then they’ll get their heads cracked good.
YOU CAN ONLY FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE
The Founding Fathers fought against the tyranny of the British Crown.
A folly is defined as a tragically foolish act (http://www.m-w.com).
So, to summarize your post, you are pro-King George, and are ready to launch a series of tragically foolish acts in support of him.
Please don't hijack the thread.
This is how duplicitous webs get weaved and slight of hand governing places the people into dependence. Get the voting majority to support one version of rhetoric, and then shift positions with the real agenda after the fact. It is quite obvious the independent voters that tipped it in favor of these radicals, were duped! This indicates that only the small dependent minority is getting what it expected and the real majority of us for generations are getting dictated to.
Usurp Healthcare dollars to spread it thinner will not cut costs. It WILL cut services, period. The extra layers of bureaucracies will absorb any savings to pay for its own survival. We get what is left over, whatever they deem not covered or oops, you died before ever being treated. Death panels, maybe not. Delay panels, You-betcha! Take a number Beetle Juice …..It is nonsense to think my current policy covers me 80%. Now spread that same policy over several more people and things will get better for everyone? The only ones who are going to believe that is the group that benefits at my expense beyond my control, because some politicians said so! While the elites that push this on us give up nothing of their Cadillac plan WE pay for anyways.
We desperately need a 3rd party that will put the direction of this country back in the hands of the people rather than the radical left willing to sell us out to their idea of utopia that is bound to spread misery and kill whatever wealth we used to earn for our own families.
Not one social program has ever cost less than expected. Government is a net loss and compounding red tape waste, fraud and abuse, all on the backs of the private sector that must profit to survive. Not if, but when it crumbles, we are all victims being led to failure tried and true.
THERE IS A CONSPIRACY HERE, wake up!
The Democratic and Republican parties have been infiltrated with Marxists from the 60s movement. Same idiots that believed in Global Cooling on Earth day in 1970 now say it's too warm….it's simply not true…there is no swine flu pandemic…(the seasonal flu kills 36k+ Americans every year on average) and over 100s of thousands worldwide each year but you're going to freak out over a couple hundred deaths in the US?…or a couple thousand worldwide ……..it's not real people! WAKE TF UP PEOPLE!
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I have the sand WILL, and so do many I know….we're ready for the call when it comes.
count me in and 100s I know…..were ready!
In 2007, the five poortest states in America, by median household income:
Mississippi, West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky, Alabama.
There are three New England states in the top ten.
(factfinder.census.gov)
The only legal way for a non-prosecutor to limit corruption is to vote against the incumbent. They have left us no other way. Controling the internet and taking our guns away also has to be done by them to shore up their successes.
Americans are timid compared to the French who would tie up the capital with their tractors and trucks.
Obama and his criminal ilk are no longer simply liberal opposing views…they are damaging to America as we know it. If they are not stopped now, it will take decades to reverse the damage being created within our country.
They are admitted communists, socialists and criminals…the sleaziest bunch of thugs to ever invade the Whitehouse. At 63, I'm too old to stop them any other way than at the voting booth. I pray our younger generation has more creative ways to halt this invasion of our country from within.
The "Crown" tried to micro-manage its people and assumed all authority. Remember, "taxation without representation" ? The foolish act is that the current administration has rapidly, consistently, unconstitutionally, nay criminally meddled in the peoples affairs. They are awakening a sleeping giant.
Recently I was at a clinic opening in Chicago whose keynote speaker was Rep. Schakowsky. During her remarks she let slip to the crowd of fellow travelers that they needed to help her work towards making health care "a right". I was stunned. I thought comments like that coming from Democrats were fiction propagated by the right. But that's what she and her husband believe and what they are working towards.
It is in the constitution for the people to overthrow the government and replace every member and every Federal Law that has been created since the constitution was written if the government stops serving the PEOPLE. That means all people not just special interest it says THE PEOPLE. It has been like this for years it's time to clean house. The founding fathers left this in the document for the PEOPLE to know when america is no longer AMERICA, just like we are today ….
Those of us that care about states rights and individual rights should plan to storm every Federal building in AMerica and force them out and to reelect every Federal position and appointed position in America. Make all special interest groups outlaws, make all political donations from anything but a citizen with a SSN to be illegal and prison time for the acceptor. Set the donation limit to no more than one weeks salary of the median income family in America. Reset the federal income taxes to what they were in 1776 … 0 % and lets start over…
I know … what about my social security, medicare … government retirement? Well, if we give back 50% of the peoples money that teh feds are taking and this money starts flowing back into charities and churches then this problem will be solved … Social Security is a government run charity not a retirement plan … I would bet that AMericans would give to these needy people and to replace what they were gettting in social security and medicare … don't worry about that .. think about your country ….
That's absolutely correct!
Hitler and Mussolini's movements are both termed "fascism" and neither is a right of center movement! The very word, SOCIALISM in the Nazi Party's name, is the give-away.
For those who don't know where the word fascism come from, Mussolini took it from the symbol of the ancient Roman "fasces", which was a bunch of smooth wooden rods surrounding an ax, and tied about with ribbons or leather ties. These bundles were symbols of power and the status/rank.
Though the relationship later became strained, Hitler looked up to Mussolini, at first and copied many of the things that the Italian had instituted. Later on, Hitler fell out of like/admiration of him
and believed that he was superior to Mussolini.
After WW II, the term FASCIST has been used as a political pejorative……………almost always by the left, at the right, in America, which is why the ignorant believe, still, though it is NOT factual, that Nazis were not lefties.
You're completely and utterly WRONG !
Hitler went after Commies for several reasons, partly because he believed that it was a JEWISH thing, but far more importantly, because they were a RIVAL group, in Germany, which he needed to get rid of, so that he and the Nazis could draw more followers.
He also went after homosexuals ( though not right off the bat ), yet many of his top echelon members were screaming queers. Ergo, by using your way of thinking, Hitler was against homosexuals, because he went after them, at some point in time, and that's just not so, since he surrounded himself with them, as well.
I would agree with that, except for ACORN!! It seems that no matter what we do this criminal administration has another criminal group hiding in the shadows to commit voter fraud…they are afraid of getting caught, as their leader won't let anything happen to them!
I guess you haven't ever read the ENTIRE Constitution, including the Amendments.
You couldn't be more wrong, if you tried! And NO legit employer is going to NOT deduct taxes from your pay.
While in prison, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf. Need I say any more?
Don't you mean: "Glenn Beck, fighting to make himself money by continuing to deceive the American people with scare tactics and lies?"
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Alright, they may have fought against marxism, but that is because they didn't want to share their cookies. Hitler took the volk's movement and used it to his own end, what is the difference between him, Stalin, Lenin, and the current progressive movement? They are all playing to the masses for their own end.
German National Socialism: Prior to Hitler's involvement in the movement, volkish thought tended to emphasize a rather communal leadership, similar to Marxist socialism. Hitler, on the other hand, provided the movement with a single charismatic leader. A loner by nature, he viewed himself as different from everyone else; he was going to be the savior of Germany. Consequently, he adapted the national socialist message so that it would appeal to the masses of Germany.
Fascism: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
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It is kind of scary that you can quote Mein Kampf so well. Was Hitler an idol?
Oh, sorry you are defending the Communist, Socialist and Marxists. That is almost scarier.
The Constitution states that
No president can have His own congress which he deligates to do and say what He wishes.
Read it.
If we push this part of the Constitution we can stop the democrats legally. copy it and send it to differnt people and get them to do the same.
I'm over the hill as the younger generation says but I remember when i was younger that you could write a petition and get a million siginatures and send it to the whitehouse and they had to abide by it. Worth a try, I'm sure you could get a lot more than that
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Liberal Democrats have taken corruption to new highs and taxpayers will be paying the bill for years. THE STIMULUS FARCE, how are those jobs coming? THE ACORN SCANDAL, taxpayers supporting voter fraud! THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM, fat Al and bogus scientists getting rich while you pay the tab!
And best of all, THE HEALTH CARE SCAM, citizens will pay taxes and public insurance costs for 4 years before receiving ANY benefits, during that time current Medicare and Medicaid benefits will be reduced to build up the kitty and put in the hands of HONEST OBAMA and our HONORABLE CONGRESS.
Now certainly we can trust HONEST OBAMA and our HONORABLE CONGRESS to hold that money in trust for us, right? Surely they will make good on their promises, right?
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I have had to self educate. Mother of 5, military family. My husband has his masters, but I was busy raising kids. I am learning though. Started with The 5000 Year Leap. Has a great explanation of the similarities of fascism, socialism and communism.
I am amazed, but not surprised at the incorrect indoctrination of my grown kids views of political history. I am trying to educate them as I learn myself.
If we persevere, we will enlighten those who are willing to learn. I am still learning.
I can't quote Mein Kampf, wheeeeew……yikes.
Outsourcing your work to foreigners is why this country is suffering. I will no longer patronize companies that sell out American workers for their greater gain and I wish more of my countrymen would do the same. If you want to do business overseas with foreign workers,just move the the Philipines or India and let that country take care of you. We don't need you selling out Americans and then expecting tax breaks from the USA..
Maui, Please look around your house, car, computer, jewelry, lamps, furniture or clothes. Very little of that is now made in the USA and when it is made here they all have components made overseas. In my business 80% is due to imports, 50% of that is made from what that country considers waste. The US is the best place for people to invest hard unleveraged money.
Unless you are living in a self made log cabin in the woods with no concrete or rebar you too live in something made over seas. The plugs in the walls, the computer boards in your car, computer and even your oven or frig are made overseas. My unemployed workers will go on to found their own companies or work for some one that will hop on a jet and compete against me, even when I could not walk I was on the jet, sitting in countries that were not wheel chair friendly.
Did I exploit, Obama would say yes. Did I make money, Obama would say I'm rich. I am not rich, I do not like to pay taxes but I will not sacrifice my income because of our countries business practices.
You are hard pressed to buy a shirt in the US that wasn't made in a foreign country. We do live in a world wide economy and we need to do what we do best, INOVATE. The people that take other countries waste and turn it into keepsakes or people that find a new way of producing something. There are literally thousands of ways to make money but the best way is making something valuable from something worthless and that is what makes the USA the best.
Right now our tax system is about to drive people like me to another country, so that we can import more foreign finished goods and put more people out of work. If the healthcare bill were killed, Cap and Trade bill dead and the EPA wasn't stomping around CO2 then I would not be turning my people into 1099 employes, to save all the expense related to having employees. But with the Bush tax cuts expiring, seriously expensive unknowns. What good is does it do any one to have 22 unemployed people in addition the the current millions? Because with these taxes if they happen I am out of business.
No quite but they make the end deals with manufacturers, I am just bring in the raw materials. We have mfg's in 46 states. They are really reps with a unique product line that can be is generally considered a by product in other countries. In South Aftica up until last year, they paid me to take their by product. Some places like Thailand we pay a premium to move the goods to the port but the actual goods we get are freely given. Some of our products are high end, from Columbia mines but the real profit is in the waste from either drilling, mining or ag businesses.
Before you say what is that, just remember malachite is a waste product in the Ivory Coast. All you have to do is find what is trash in one place that is prized in another place.
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I've always said that I learned far more out of school ( thanks to my grandparents and parents, as well as having been a life long avid reader ), than I ever did in any school, college, or university.
Now that you have the time, spend it reading and I'll suggest a few good history books, should you want me to.
I've spent most of my progeny's life correcting what schools taught and though adulthood was long ago reached, I'm still "teaching"; it's what parents MUST do!
That's right Obangi ordered his loudmouths to "Get in People's Faces", two can play that, but keep your fingers away from the new Communists and SEIU thugs otherwise they can get bitten off.
Oh, yeah–he's the one who bought his own death. I wonder where he's living now, and how long it will be before we know the truth.
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The South and Midwest (red states) provide 70% of our troops and a large percentage of Conservative Americans.We have fought opression before and we can do it again. The lib/fascists are mostly brave with words and are cowards when confronted, but with their strong arm groups of mindless thugs (Re: SEIU and Acorn), they could quickly create a brownshirt force. We must remain vigilant and as one poster said, "not just sit behind our computers" but ACT.
Believe it or not, there could be a real uprising by free states against the Federal Government, but unlike the last War of Rebellion, the troops would not turn on us.
This is not crazy right wing bantor, but is the reporesentaion of an undercurrent of sentiment felt throughout the Country. Obama, Gibbs, Emanuel, etc, better beware, things could get well out of their control, QUICKLY.
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It's remarkable what used to be taught in schools. I learned all about the history of fasces in first year Latin ( I took four years of it, plus French ), and the teacher also went rather deeply in explaining Fascism, as well. Sadly, that's something I doubt is ever taught now, in any school.
How about the freeedom to choose your own healthcare? How about the freedom to drive what car you want or eat what you want? How about freedom from world courts and laws made in other countries? How about freedom from oppressive taxation. The list goes on and on. Why dont any of the rules they make apply to them? They dont pay taxes, but they want to raise ours. They claim this is the best healthcare option ever, but they voted against 11 amendments which would have put them on it as well. I will be happy with a common sense answer to that! Something tells me you cant give good reasons for those problems and still defend these traitors. Thats exactly what they are, traitors. They want to apply the Constitution falsly to enforce income tax and take God out of everything, but then loosen it up when it comes to them breaking and making laws. Last time I checked, a person who was sworn to uphold the Constitution and didnt was a traitor. Makes no difference what party they are in, so dont try to defend either because you just look like a fool.
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We will need to vote them out. The question we should be asking is, If we vote them out will they leave of their own accord? I think there is a reason why they don't seem to care about their poll numbers or how much the country is against their socialist agenda. I hope I am wrong but the symptoms are there we just have to have the right cure for the disease. A third party is not the answer unless enough citizens get involved to insure victory. If not we will be insuring socialist leadership for the remainder of our days. This needs to be thought about and acted on very carefully or we can be the means to their end by trying to end this mess.
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What you can do is increase your dependents in order to have less taxes taken out
Agricultural Experts in India who have worked hand in hand with the USAID and Rockefeller Foundation Scientists have been denied pension or even medical facility after their retirement. Even the Delhi High Court Order to provide medical facility to the retired Seed Technologists of National Seeds Corporation, fully owned by Govt. of India has been disregarded by the Secretary, Min. of Health & Family Welfare, Govt. of India. Majority of our Parliament Members are elected through money and muscle power with criminal background and they enjoy all the privileges whereas people who have ushered green revolution in India in early sixties are totally neglected and are having miserable plight in the twilight of their life.
Will Mr Barack Obama will take up this issue with the Prime Minister of India, Dr Manmohan Singh to provide us the much needed relief?
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Yes and one of those states was Ted Kennedy.
Ah! Do I detect the increasing crescendo of the murmuring mob, the steady creaking of the tumbrels, and the heady aroma of revolution in the air?
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I SEE IS THAT, WE THE PEOPLE HAVE NO BEEF WITH THE MILITARY OR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
BUT THAT IS WHO WILL BE CALLED TO PROTECT THESE CRIMINALS WHEN IT STARTS. IT IS A SHAME THAT GOOD AMERICANS
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Hmm…guy goes to prison, writes a book, people take it seriously and do what it says.
You mean like THE NEW TESTAMENT? Geez.
I am always open to educational reading. I am an avid reader anyway.
I am not too proud to be open to help and suggestions, as long as they have nothing to do with cliffs or bending over. heeeeheeee!
My father was a Logophile and an avid reader. I am his daughter.
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Except that you will STILL have taxes taken out and lying about the number of dependents you have, is a crime.
I am a Logophile too and as a child, came to the conclusion that words "are magic", all on my own.
I am always pleased when someone who has enjoyed a book/s, on a topic I'm interested in, suggests a title or three. Sadly, some people take offense at that, so that's why I asked you, before I listed a few books that I think you may find interesting.
" PARIS 1919", by Margaret MacMillan is riveting and even if you know a lot about WW I, the Treaty Of Versailles, and the major players, I guarantee that you'll learn things you never knew.
"THE ILLUSION OF VICTORY", by Thomas Flemming is also about WW I, but focuses more on just Wilson and America.
"RADICAL SON" , by David Horowitz should be required reading by all, INMO. If you haven't read it, do so.
"INFAMOUS SCRIBBLERS" by Eric Burns is an eye opener to those who view the Founding Fathers through rose colored glasses and believe that "dirty politics" and biased newspapers are something "new".
If you have any particular area of interest, I'd be more than happy to suggest other books, should I also have an interest in that area. And if you have read any books you loved reading, I'd be delighted to know about them.
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I'M A COMBAT VETERAN AND WAS SWORN TO A OATH TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION FROM ALL ENEMIES FORIEGN AND DOMESTIC. I'M SORRY TO SAY I DO NOT THINK THIS IS GOING TO END IN JUST AN ELECTION. THOMAS JEFFERSON HAD THE RIGHT ANSWER. PLEASE VOTE AND IF THAT DOES NOT CORRECT THIS BLATANT ATTACK ON OUR COUNTRY, WELL ???
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With 40+ % of the population flopping on the ground without government help, America is already in big trouble. A recent poll among younger adults showed 1/3 were for socialism, 1/3 against, and 1/3 just were not sure. SCARY!
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I didn't quote Mark Levin or anyone else. Nor have I read or have access to any copy of "Mark Levin" or his book. If you'd do so much as point out where I "quot(ed) Mark Levin" (and, per your allegation, didn't attribute such nonexistent quote to him or his book), I'll be happy to thank you for the compliment of my comments being similar in any capacity to those by Mark Levin.
Many millions of registered Republicans and now Conservatives registered as Independents agree with the fact that the current GOP (as in the past decade or so) have become far more Leftwing than most of us find tolerable.
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I've often called for military coup like in Honduras… but our military is also corrupted and coopted so who would lead the charge to arrest these people? Most of Congress and the President and his criminal cabinet have violated the Constitution numerous times in this admin so far… there is reason to arrest them. Where is our military on this stuff? Why don't they protect the people? How fearful of this dictatorship do we have to become? It's not right esp. for us elderly…..
That's a spoof on what we have in 'leadership' now… a dictator.
If you like that system so much why not move to Cuba?
It's too late to think you are going to fix this via elections. BOTH SIDES ARE CORRUPTED. McCain was also working for the "new world order" just not as fast. When are you people going to learn? Our country needs to be relieved of the puppet masters who control the people they put in the presidency — SOROS, ROCKEFELLER, KISSINGER, BRZEZINSKI, GOLDMAN SACHS, these are the people who have done the most damage in the last 100 years. We need to get the foreign oligarchy out of our country… and disband and outlaw the Trilats, CFR, Bilderberg, etc…
Basically Obama is getting a Nobel prize today because they are sure he's going forth with the agenda of the UN world government…. nothing more, nothing less.
It's too late to think you are going to fix this via elections. BOTH SIDES ARE CORRUPTED. McCain was also working for the "new world order" just not as fast. When are you people going to learn? Our country needs to be relieved of the puppet masters who control the people they put in the presidency — SOROS, ROCKEFELLER, KISSINGER, BRZEZINSKI, GOLDMAN SACHS, these are the people who have done the most damage in the last 100 years. We need to get the foreign oligarchy out of our country… and disband and outlaw the Trilats, CFR, Bilderberg, etc…
Health Care is NOT A RIGHT!!! Neither is owning a home. What is a right is for you to WORK for your health care and home. If you say it's a right please show me in the Constitution where it says that please! Try as you might you won't find it. Neither will you find where it's a right to OWN A HOME!
40+ percent of America supports this new path we are on, as they are told to believe this is “the solution to all your problems” at home, church, and school; which is mostly feed by way of the left wing media. Yes we have Fox, which is just right of center, but it’s all the others are left and keep a solid steam of propaganda flowing. The only way we MIGHT be able to battle the main stream media is to quit purchasing any of their product, and that includes any of their affiliates. That means quit listening and watching those channels! OK now a reality check, that will not happen when it comes to someone wanting to watch their favorite TV show, Football, ect…. See they have you. We can try reinstating term limits, but neither side will listen to that, as it’s become an elitist good-old-boys club. Some talk of taking up arms and enacting their constitutional rights, but when they cut off the power and food supply and send out the troops do you really think you will have a chance. We have all gotten soft over the last 50 years. I would be willing to bet that 80% of American don’t even know how to properly hold and shoot a firearm. With that, and trying not to be a defeatist but realist, until the axe falls, which it seems to be doing with either party, the only real thing to do is start peaceful protesting around political office buildings (local to federal) and new media outlets, and I mean to the point that people cannot walk because there is no room left. Let the world know our opinion. It has to be to the point that you cannot be ignored. Oh wait.. we all have jobs and cannot set around office buildings while we have jobs. I give up….. you tell me the answer for the hard working American that is being overrun by the corrupt political machine and the poor unemployed that wants entitlements like welfare and not employment.
You know communism is here when we have safe school czars teaching kids 'fisting' and our do-nothing president gets a Nobel peace prize for starting a war…."What's right is wrong and what's wrong is right"
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Been there, Its called get off your lazy ass and get a new job. Turn to the new chapter in your life. Even if it means taking a job that you would have never considered. Imagine being a pilot in the Navy flying million dollar jets and then getting out and finding that aviation jobs are hard to come by or even one of the lowest paying jobs (starting off). (about 20K a year). I had to swallow my pride and get at job at Best Buy to make end meet! Now talk about a turn in life going from jet jock to geek.
There are people that get up every day and make it happen and then there are those that cry about how bad they have it.
The Government's job isn't to make sure all lazy people have it good. Be self responsible.
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Atlanta GA 30303
Tel 404-827-1500 Fax 404-827-1906
Email cnn.feedback@cnn.com community@cnn.com
CNN Washington Bureau
820 First St NE
Washington DC 20002
Tel 202-898-7900 Fax 202-898-7923
DC Bureau Chief Kathryn Kross
DC Booking Unit (Political) Jill Neff jill.neff@turner.com 202-898-7926/7667 ,
Mark Allen NBC
NBC Headquarters
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112
Tel 212-664-4444 Fax 212-664-4426
NBC Washington Bureau
Attn: Tim Russert
4001 Nebraska Ave NW
Washington, DC 20016
Tel 202-885-4200 Fax 202-362-2009
Letters world@msnbc.com
DC Bureau Chief Tim Russert tim.russert@nbc.com
202-885-4548
More info on the news agencies. I will submit the entire file in pieces.
MSNBC
One MSNBC Plaza
Secaucus NJ 07094
Tel (201) 583-5000 Fax (201) 583-5453/5584
Email letters@msnbc.com world@msnbc.com
News w Brian Williams brian.williams@msnbc.com
201-583-5030
(Steven Capus, exec producer steven.capus@msnbc.com 201-583-5102)
CNBC
Attn: Alan Murray
2200 Fletcher Ave
Fort Lee NJ 07024
Tel 201-585-2622 Fax 201-585-6244
Email info@cnbc.com
DC Bureau Chief Alan Murray todaysbusiness@cnbc.com
201-585-2622
Tim Russert Show tim.russert@nbc.com 202-885-4548
Barbara Fant, sr producer barbara.fant@nbc.com 202-885-4646)
Rivera Live rivera@cnbc.com 201-585-2622
(Bob Fasbender, exec producer bob.fasbender@nbc.com )
FOX
Fox News Channel
1211 Ave of the Americas
New York NY 10036
Tel 212-301-3000 Fax 212-301-4229
Email comments@foxnews.com
Fox Washington Bureau
Attn: Kim Hume
400 N Capitol St NW
Washington, DC 20001
Tel 202-824-6300 Fax 202-824-6426
Letters comments@foxnews.com
DC Bureau Chief Kim Hume kim.hume@foxnews.com
WIRE Associated Press Headquarters
50 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10020
Tel 212-621-1500 Fax 212-621-7523
Letters info@ap.org
AP Washington Bureau
2021 K St NW
Washington DC 20006
Tel 202-776-9400 Fax 202-776-9570
Letters info@ap.org Reuters
Washington Bureau (Headquarters)
Attn: Robert Doherty
1333 H St NW, Washington DC 20005
Tel 202-898-8300 Fax 202-898-8383
Letters editor@reuters.com
DC Bureau Chief Robert Doherty robert.doherty@reuters.com
202-898-8366 PRINT
Arizona Republic (14)
200 E Van Buren St
Phoenix AZ 85004
Tel 800-331-9303 or 602-444-8000 Fax 602-444-8044
Letters opinions@arizonarepublic.com
Ombudsman John D'Anna readers@arizonarepublic.com
602-444-2890
Editorial Editor Keven Willey keven.willey@arizonarepublic.com 602-444-8660 Deputy Editorial Editor Ken Western ken.western@arizonarepublic.com 602-444-8138 Deputy Editorial Editor Paul Schatt paul.schatt@arizonarepublic.com 602-444-7718 Deputy Editorial Editor Phil Boas phil.boas@arizonarepublic.com 602-444-8292
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Atlanta Journal Constitution (29)
Attn: Jim Wooten
72 Marietta St NW
Atlanta GA 30302
Tel 404-526-5151 Fax 404-526-5746
Letters (Jim Wooten, letters editor jwooten@ajc.com 404-526-5308)
Editorial Page Editor Cynthia Tucker cynthia@ajc.com 404-526-5084
Baltimore Sun (28)
501 N Calvert St
PO Box 1377
Baltimore MD 21278
Tel 800-829-8000 or 410-332-6000 Fax 410-752-6049
Letters letters@baltsun.com
Ombudsman Ed Hewitt ed.hewitt@baltsun.com
1-800-829-8000 Ext 6495 or 410-332-6495 DC
Bureau Chief Paul West pwest35012@aol.com 202-416-0280
Editorial Page Editor Jacqueline Thomas jacqueline.thomas@baltsun.com 410-332-6783
Boston Globe (12)
135 Morrissey Blvd
PO Box 2378
Dorchester MA 02107-2378
Tel 617-929-2000 Fax 617-929-2098
Letters letter@globe.com
Ombudsman Christine Chinlund ombud@globe.com 617-929-3020 Ext 3022
DC Bureau Chief David Shribman d_shribman@globe.com 202-857-5137
Deputy DC Bureau Chief John Farrell j_farrell@globe.com 202-857-5121 DC
Bureau Correspondent Anthony Shadid a_shadid@globe.com 202-857-5131
Editorial Page Editor Renee Loth r_loth@globe.com
Op-Ed Editor Marjorie Pritchard m_pritchard@globe.com
Fax: 617-929-2098/3041
Foreign Editor James Smith jsmith@globe.com 617-929-3018
Charlotte Observer (42)
600 S Tryon St
Charlotte NC 28202
Tel 704-358-5000 Fax 704-358-5036
Letters opinion@charlotteobserver.com
Editorial Page Editor Ed Williams ewilliams@charlotteobserver.com 704-358-5040
Deputy Editorial Page Editor Jane Pope jmpope@charlotteobserver.com 704-358-5059
Chicago Sun-Times (11)
401 N Wabash Ave
Chicago IL 60611
Tel 312-321-3000 Fax 312-321-2120
Letters letters@suntimes.com
DC Bureau Chief Lynn Sweet sweet@dgs.dgsys.com
Editorial Page Editor Steve Huntley shuntley@suntimes.com
Chicago Tribune (7)
435 N. Michigan Ave,
Chicago IL 60611
Tel 312-222-3232 Fax 312-222-2598
Letters ctc-tribletter@tribune.com
Ombudsman Don Wycliff dwycliff@tribune.com 312-222-3348
DC Bureau Chief William Neikirk wneikirk@tribune.com 202-824-8214
Deputy DC Bureau Chief Vickie Walton vwalton@tribune.com 202-824-8254
Editorial Page Editor R. Bruce Dold bdold@tribune.com 312-222-4440
Deputy Editorial Page Editor John McCormick kmccormick@tribune.com
Foreign Editor Colin McMahon cmcmahon@tribune.com
Deputy Foreign Editor John Adkins jadkins@tribune.com
Christian Science Monitor Address 1 Norway Street, Boston MA 02115 Tel 617-450-7034 Fax 617-450-2317 Letters oped@csps.com Op-Ed Editor Linda Feldmann oped@csps.com or feldmannl@csps.com DC Bureau Chief David Cook cookd@csps.com Foreign Editor David Clark Scott world@csps.com Deputy Foreign Editor Faye Bowers bowersf@csps.com
Cleveland Plain Dealer (22) Address 1801 Superior Ave NE, Cleveland OH 44114 Tel 216-999-4500 Fax 216-999-6323 Letters editor@cleveland.com DC Bureau Chief Stephen Koff skoff@cleveland.com Op-Ed Editor Brent Larkin blarkin@cleveland.com 216-999-4252
Dallas Morning News (10) Address 508 Young St, Dallas TX 75265 Tel 214-977-8222 Fax 214-977-8319 Letters letterstoeditor@dallasnews.com
DC Bureau Chief Carl Leubsdorf cleubsdorf@dallasnews.com
Deputy DC Bureau Chief Kathy Lewis klewis@dallasnews.com 202-661-8415
Editorial Page Editor Rena Pederson rpederson@dallasnews.com 214-977-8259
Denver Post (17) Address 1560 Broadway, Denver CO 80202 Tel 303-820-1010 Fax 303-820-1369
Letters letters@denverpost.com
DC Bureau Chief Bill McAllister bmcallister@denverpost.com
Editorial Page Editor Sue O’Brien sobrien@denverpost.com 303-820-1935
Detroit Free Press (21) Address 600 W Fort St, Detroit MI 48226 Tel 313-222-6600 Fax 313-222-5981 Letters letters@freepress.com Editorial Page Editor Ron Dzwonkowski dzwonk@freepress.com Detroit News (44) Address 615 W Lafayette Blvd, Detroit MI 48226 Tel 313-222-2300 Fax 313-222-6417 Letters letters@detnews.com DC Bureau Chief Alison Bethel abethel@detnews.com 202-662-7370 Editorial Page Editor Nolan Finley nfinley@detnews.com Deputy Editorial Page Editor Richard Burr oped@detnews.com 313-222-2542
Rocky Mountain News (16) Address 400 W Colfax Ave,
Denver CO 80204
Tel 303-892-5000 Fax 303-892-2568
Letters letters@rockymountainnews.com
Editorial Page Editor Vincent Carroll carrollv@rockymountainnews.com 3
303-892-5477
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Houston Chronicle (9) Address 801 Texas Ave, Houston TX 77002 Tel 713-220-7171 Fax 713-220-6806 Letters viewpoints@chron.com DC Bureau Chief John Henry john.henry@chron.com 202-393-6880 Editorial Page Editor Frank Michel frank.michel@chron.com 713-220-7077 Op-Ed Editor Judy Minshew judy.minshew@chron.com 713-220-7730
Indianapolis Star (40) Address 307 N Pennsylvania St, Indianapolis IN 46204 Tel 317-633-1240 Fax 317-444-6600 Letters stareditor@starnews.com Editorial Page Editor Andrea Neal andrea.neal@indystar.com 317-633-6177
Los Angeles Times (4) Address 202 W First St, Los Angeles CA 90012 Tel 800-528-4637 or 213-237-5000 Fax 213-237-4712 Letters letters@latimes.com Ombudsman readers.rep@latimes.com 213-554-4000 DC Bureau Chief Doyle McManus doyle.mcmanus@latimes.com 202-861-9231 Deputy DC Bureau Chief Tom McCarthy tom.mccarthy@latimes.com Editorial Page Editor Janet Clayton janet.clayton@latimes.com 213-237-7931 Deputy Editorial Page Editor Judy Dugan judy.dugan@latimes.com Op-Ed Editor Bob Berger bob.berger@latimes.com Deputy Op-Ed Editor Claudia Luther claudia.luther@latimes.com
Miami Herald (25) Address 1 Herald Plz, Miami FL 33132-1693 Tel 305-350-2111 Fax 305-376-5287 Letters heralded@herald.com Editorial Page Editor Joe Oglesby joglesby@herald.com 305-376-3505
Minneapolis Star Tribune (26) Address 425 Portland Ave, Minneapolis MN 55488 Tel 612-673-4000 Fax 612-673-4359 Letters opinion@startribune.com Ombudsman Lou Gelfand readerrep@gw.startribune.com 612-673-4450 DC Bureau Chief David Westphal dwestphal@mcclatchydc.com 202-383-0002 Editorial Page Editor Susan Albright salbright@startribune.com 612-673-4777
Newsday (8) Address 235 Pinelawn Rd, Melville NY 11747 Tel 631-843-4000 Fax 631-834-2953 Letters letters@newsday.com DC Bureau Chief Timothy Phelps tim.phelps@newsday.com 202-626-8475
New York Daily News (6) Address 450 W 33rd St New York, NY 10001 Tel 212-210-2100 Fax 212-643-7831 Letters voicers@edit.nydailynews.com DC Bureau Chief Thomas DeFrank tdefrank@edit.nydailynews.com 202-467-6670 Deputy DC Bureau Chief Helen DeFrank hdefrank@edit.nydailynews.com 202-467-6670 Editorial Page Editor Richard Schwartz 212-210-2322 Op-Ed Editor Bob Laird 212-210-1614
New York Post (15) Address 1211 Ave of the Americas, New York NY 10036 Tel 212-930-8000 Fax 212-930-8540 Letters editor@nypost.com DC Bureau Chief Deborah Orin dorin@nypost.com 202-393-1787 Editorial Page Editor Bob McManus mcmanus@nypost.com 212-930-8536
New York Times (3)
Address 229 W 43rd St,
New York NY 10036
Tel 212-556-1234 (DC bureau: 202-862-0300) Fax 212-556-3690/3622
Letters lettes@nytimes.com
Foreign Editor Andy Rosenthal andyr@nytimes.com
Asst Foreign Editor Len Apcar apcar@nytimes.com DC Bureau Chief Jill Abramson abramson@nytimes.com 202-862-0324
Editorial Page Editor Gail Collins gcollins@nytimes.com Deputy
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Op-Ed Page Editor Katherine Roberts kroberts@nytimes.com 212-556-3652
Orlando Sentinel (35)
Address 633 N Orange Ave,
Orlando FL 32801
Tel 407-420-5000 Fax 407-420-5286
Letters insight@orlandosentinel.com
Editorial Page Editor Jane Healy jhealy@orlandosentinel.com 407-420-5406
Philadelphia Inquirer (19)
Address 400 N Broad St,
Philadelphia PA 19130
Tel 215-854-2000 Fax 215-854-5099
Letters inquirer.letters@phillynews.com
Ombudsman Kevin Ferris kferris@phillynews.com 215-854-2000
Editorial Page Editor Chris Satullo chris.satullo@phillynews.com 215-854-5943
Op-Ed Editor John Timpane john.timpane@phillynews.com 215-854-4406
Sacramento Bee (32)
Address 2100 Q St,
Sacramento CA 95816
Tel 916-321-1000 Fax 916-321-1109
Letters opinion@sacbee.com
Editorial Page Editor David Holwerk dholwerk@sacbee.com 916-321-1851 Op-Ed Editor Jewel Reilly jreilly@sacbee.com
San Diego Union Tribune (20)
Address PO Box 120191,
San Diego CA 92112
Tel 619-299-3131 Fax 619-293-1440
Letters letters@uniontrib.com
DC Bureau Chief George Condon george.condon@copleydc.com
Editorial Page Editor Robert Kittle opinion@uniontrib.com
San Francisco Chronicle (13)
Address 901 Mission St,
San Francisco CA 94103
Tel 415-777-1111
Letters letters@sfchronicle.com
Ombudsman Dick Rogers readerrep@sfchronicle.com 415-777-7870
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I know this is old, but it warrants a reply. No, I cannot quote Mein Kampf on demand. What I know how to do is use a computer and research the topic at hand before forming an opinion. All you idiots are doing is spewing Beck's pre-packaged thoughts. What I think is scary is some of you holding up a book that you have never read in order to prove your points. You are parrots and robots. If Beck and Breitbart disappeared your 'movement' would fall apart for lack of ideas.
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Not too much of a strategy. A growing majority oppose the Democrats design to control us through our health. They are even turning on the Democrats on almost every other issue including overall approval. Perhaps Creamer has conned the Democrats and is really a double agent.
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Just what the lying,cheating left who have not even once admitted culpability in any worngdoing befallen our country would say. Grow a pair and think for yourself.
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your party are the true morons. And to be an apologist for dishonestly and corruption truely fits the left to a tee.
Sure stan. Demonizing truth. You need anymore proof?
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Certainly the pedophile “Safe Schools Czar” comes to mind as someone who should be serving time.
As sick and perverted as these faggots in the White House are, however, the leftist scumbag in the Oval Office and all the other left wing criminals in our government are worse. They are the embodiment of the evil that is rotting and destroying western civilization.
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Creamer also was at the White House State Dinner. The same one that "red dress" and her hubby were at. THey got all the media attention and Creamer, a former felon, got none. Thanks MSM.
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Not only communists, add the simple minded progressives and then we have the whack-job radical islamists to contend with.
I don't know if it was written in prison (probably though), but BHO's healthcare was, most assuredly, coceived in Hell itself. Another point, why do the freakin' libs, as witnessed here in their comments, believe that they're speaking for mainstream America, when ALL polls CLEARLY indicate that a majority of Americans consider themselves CONSERVATIVE!! Oh, that's right, as Savage says, "Liberalism is a mental disorder"!
Hitler wrote his stratagy in a book also in prison called MEIN KAMPH.Makes you wonder.
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Creamer spent only 5 months in prison but he was on House Arrest for 11 months. He started writing his book in jail and continued in his home.
creamer was only in prison for 5 months. he has never written a book before.
he isn't robert creamer the baseball writer, who must be horrified to have the same name as a convicted felon.
how could creamer the felon have written a 628 page book in 5 months?
who really wrote this book?
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That is a trillion dollar question. People all over are asking it. Many have just given up because no matter what they do these criminals don't listen. It is so obvious that all they are doing is taking tax payer dollars to use as a slush fund for quid pro quo.
We need to throw the bums out. People have to realize that the upcoming primary is important. We need to get people elected that will listen and do what is right.
Abraham Lincoln once stated, "This country will never be taken from without, it will be taken from within."
I never thought much about that until now. We must get these people out of office.
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They are ALL (pols and media) corrupted crooks and nuts. It is definitely time for "change"………kick all these left wing loons out and get this great country back to why it became great in the first place. ie the ONLY place on the planet that attempted to NOT be a socialist system or run by tyrants and/or dictators.
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We as Americans need to go back to what made us great. The Tea party's have it right. let's follow them "real Americans".
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[...] used to be called Citizen Action, until the illegal behavior of Rep. Jan Shakowsky’s husband, ex-con Bob Creamer (Obama Campaign Organizer), combined with the notorious “Teamstergate” scandal, forced the [...]
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[...] to be called Citizen Action, until the illegal behavior of Rep. Jan Shakowsky’s husband, ex-con Bob Creamer (Obama Campaign Organizer), combined with the notorious “Teamstergate” scandal, forced [...]
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