Countless human lives affected by the protection of a "bait fish". This is typical LIBERAL thinking and policy at it's finest. Let's just put thousands of good hardworking Americans out of work and make them lose their homes over the protection of a fish we don't even use as a food source. This has been going on for a year now, I guess the restrictive California gun laws are working because if this was Georgia we would have already had a violent uprising to settle this B.S.

"They" want this land for the huge solar and wind power project. What better way is there to get the land cheaply than to "water starve" the farmers out of existence? The progressives/Socialists do not care who they kick around as long as they reach their goal. They do not care if you can even afford to buy food as long as they get their way.

Atlas Shrugging……

Thanks John Loudon and BigGovernment for putting this out.
I hope there is a tsunami of support for this cause.
This is TYRANNY at it's worst folks.

This is what happens when California keeps electing the likes of Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein…..wake up people.

hey the one buys his prized beef at 100 bucks a pound, do you think lettuce at 100 a head scares him?? i don't think so, the one is not using his money for lavish parties, he is using the unwashed masses money. hey, a extra trip on airforce one to get some tasty veggies over seas will not bother him. gubmint cheese is good enough for us, and kobe and arugla for him.

Guess what company will get the contract……GE !

I can't believe my Congressman – the young darling of the right hasn't signed it yet. Aaron Schock is a piece of crap. He is no more conservative than his predecessor – Ray LaHood – our OBAMBI mouthpiece Secy of Transportation.

Sounds like another well planned townhall meeting. Fill it with SEIU members and we will be all set.

If Congressional action in favor of food producers does not occur, this would be further overreaching/arrogance by these feckless fanatical lunatics. Smelt v. hunger??!! This one could be real fodder for the anti-Dem video machines if the Dems hold true to their smelt-worshipping ways. Compassion for the farmers, the hungry, and the U.S. grocery shopper. Consideration of the national security implications of allowing some of the most productive agricultural land in the nation to be left a desert…by a SMELT??!! Education of the electorate will be very easy. Sweeeeeet.

I didn't think that the tiny 2 in. fish was even indiginous to California. Does anyone know? If it isn't, then it is an even more blatant grab at the control of the food supply. Ken Salazar is from Colorado—-my state—he is a statist in every sense of the word. He hides behind his hispanic heritage to get elected, and then turns around and makes moves to destroy the farming communities at the will of the Fed. May he rot is hell for what he has done here in Colorado and for what he is doing on the national level now!

When I saw Aaron himhaw about his earmark proposals, I knew he was a lost cause.

Damned shame. Rode my Harley through that area many times. Sad to see it being destroyed. But the people out there keep voting in Marxists so they are getting what they voted for. My wife and I left the state 10 years ago because of the taxes and government intrusion in every aspect of our lives.

Folks don't like this mind set? Do you know from were it comes? CASS SUNSTEIN.

This is a great opening. Their position is indefensible. I believe the Left's actions (inaction) in CA will lead to a great example with which to educate the NATION regarding the nature of the party governing them. I see video spots with starving children and pictures of bait fish; with dry, useless CA farmland vs. productive Chinese farms; with deserted roads in these water-starved counties vs. shots of the containers of imported food coming in off the docks needed to offset the lack of food production. The list is endless. The Dems can't help themselves. This is who they are. Your interesting suggestion could fund the effort nicely.

I think the ex CZAR ( mr. green ) Van Jones had a hand in this too.

Where is the data that says the Delta Smelt is in danger….Climategate…now Smeltgate

This stuff used to never get publicized. Eco-terrorism has just met the light of day.

This is the same arguement that has raged for years (Especially in the People's Republic of Califirnia) about what is natural? Somehow human exploitation of nature is wrong and natural exploitation (Fish living and doing fish stuff in rivers) is OK. The ECO-NUT's and the Obamatons appear in lock step over crazy issues like this but it goes way deeper. The ECO-NUT's want us (The unwashed masses) to go live in caves to protect their new religion, it's called "GIA" worship. The Obamatons on the other hand use these craze legal proceeding to get us (Again the unwashed masses who drive pick-up trucks and the like) to do as we are told by our betters.
Term limits, 2 and gone from Presedent to dog catcher!
If you don't vote don't bitch!

This article tells it like it is! Next comes our liberty is gone, then a dictatorship and/or riots in every street in every city in America! It's over America and you voted for it! Thanks a lot!

The Feds are also trying to destroy the small farms in New York through various employee regulation. I believe they want to destroy our domestic food supply so they can control the import of food. Did you see Beck's "Revolutionary Holocaust" special? Starvation is the murder weapon of choice for socialists. Conspiracy theory? Well, let's just watch the farms fall and see……..Nancy Pelosi also told Schwarzenegger to fly a kite when he asked the Feds to pay their share Calif bills and she is stopping Calif farms from getting water. (It would be a different story if lack of water affected Napa Valley wineries.) Beck says Progressives only care about themselves- not the other Dems (that is why so many are retiring) and not about their constituents. Pelosi is certianly proving that right!

Hard to rise again when they put the shackles of oppression on themselves! Grew up there and loved it, spent 20 yrs (Navy) all over the world and when I got back didn't recognize the people I grew up with.

I don't think there's any reason for us to drive a fish into extinction; however, I don't think it's been determined whether or not that's even what's happening. And if we were somehow doing something, then I'm sure there would be a solution. Evironmentalism has gone off its rocker. Somehow, the only solution for many is to wall areas off so that mankind can't possibly have an effect. We have to preserve but we never conserve anymore.

Plenty of species have learned how to coexist with humans and human activity. Plenty of times humans have learned how to cahnge our own rbehaviors enough to accommodate the wildlife. This decision is just an overly-simplified us v. them solution where we're not even sure conflict exists in the first place. Thank you, American Electorate, for you stupidly in putting these people into power.

This kind of stuff has always bothered me, such as how some cities and municipalities actually ban people from collecting rain water that comes off of their roof. It seems like a slap in the face to the principals that this country was founded on.

You have a right to life–but at the pleasure of the government.

So let me get this straight. Health care is a Right. Water is a privilege. Makes real sense.

This situation is so blatently unconstitutional as to boggle the mind. If The Governator had one ounce of fortitude, he'd go to the fields with state soldiers, turn the water on and dare Obama to do something about it.

This ignores the fact that our own Supreme Court should've already struck down this rediculous act.

Humans come first, and any law that denies that basic principle is illegal.

I wrote to my Congressional idiot – I mean my Congresswoman – Donna Edwards, to ask her to sign the petition, as well to ask why NONE of the MD Congressional delegation have signed it.

Note: It seems I don't even know my own district. In the past, I have said Ms. Edwards was from the MD 5th when, in fact, she represents the MD 4th. Steny Hoyer represents the MD 5th (not that he's any better) and I wish to extend my apologies to the residents of the MD 5th Congressional District for unintentionally belittling them by implying Cong. Donna "Lemming" Edwards was from their district.

Del Monti Foods, parent company of Starkist Tuna, is HQ'ed in San Francisco. It's no wonder Pelosi is blocking the water, she has a political interest to serve, obviously.

Victor.
Thanks for the compliment ( I think).
No, there are alot of Americans like me, or at least there used to be. I do feel like a dinosaur most of the time though. I see my world changing, and not for the best.

I won't be told, I won't be controlled, I won't be dictated to. I simply want left alone. In exchange for that, I will grant others the same courtesy. That is how I live my life.

When I was a boy, I knew an old Indian. He died at 100 years old. He had seen many things, and killed many enemies. His father had done the same. Why? He was fighting for his country, for his family, for everything that he knew, to preserve his way of life.

I have lived long enough now, to know how he felt.

The beginning of Ukraine II?

Why not breed the delta smelt in captivity, restock the river and experiment with some of the captive fish to determine what can be done? Meanwhile, go with a solution that provides people with water. I know that the pallid sturgeon and paddlefish are being raised in a hatchery up at Gavin's Point Dam up in South Dakota. (Don't know about water use rules though.)

ALL conservatives become brain damaged? I think any time you lump people together you're treading on thin ice. We already have term limits. It's called regular elections. If you're unhappy, run yourself or work hard for somebody you believe in. The kind of term limits you're talking about is just more government control.

troll alert

Let's see we had tainted chinese baby formula, lead paint recall on baby toys from china, now food that has laid in a cargo hold for a month grown and canned in those mercury and arcinic laced fields, under the acid filled gray skies of coal fired power plants of beautiful rural china!

But real question is Chairman may I have 2 cans please?
http://www.who-sucks.com/business/made-in-china-2...
Results 1 – 10 of about 218,000,000 for "chinese product recalls". (0.29 seconds)

Nothing to worry about here! But how do those smelt taste?

Rush never said "he wanted this country to fail", he said he wanted BHO policies to fail

progressives must be defeated in every area of government if you ever hope to bring sanity back to America

i agree with the general thrust of the story. screw the fish, turn on the pumps. but… the headline leads one to believe that obama actually used the words "water, it's a privilege, not a right" which got me all excited to read how he would explain that away. i was a little disappointed that exact quote didn't occur. the result is the same but i would love to have caught him using those words.

I thought I smelt something fishy.
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
You left yourself wide open for that one.

I'm just not understanding how this can continue to be so ignored by the media and the politicians. This story has been ongoing for a long time and those people are suffering… including the migrant workers who are Obama's big constituency. Why has his administration been ignoring this whole thing?

This reminds me of the great Stalin-created Ukraine famine of the 30's.

Blow every dam in California and blow me Obama.

The govt are all crooks an everybody knows it. Peeelosi, Reid ,an obammie need to go…..I say tar an feather these 3 first or dump hot lead on'em to let the others know we are not F***ing around anymore

Obviously, the Delta Smelt's right to the water surpasses our right to grow and eat our own food. How ignorant. Is this the type of injustices that our founders were complaining about when they rebelled against the King. But then I guess the government knows what is best for us!!!! NOT.

Don't forget the glutin in the dog/cat food. Harmful glutins and lead are a leading export from China, and they do it so well too!

The problem isn't in the farm districts. Look at a county by county red/blue map and virtually all of the state is red. The blue areas of the SF bay area and the LA basin control the politics because they have the most voters. If legislative districts were issued on the basis of area the farming / rural areas would win.

I left California a few years ago for Texas. Traded one set of problems for another. Fortunately, Texas problems are smaller, for now…..

These folks would have had their water or part of it anyways if it wasn't for Hannity and DeMint throwing these people under a bus for political grandstanding. I love it when these Ghetto Conservatives feed upon themselves to attack Democrats.

http://www.revivethesanjoaquin.org/content/cadill...

………..and the air we breath is not a right, it is also a privelege. Tax it also with a consumption tax.

What I think should happen is that the local farmers and citizens just go down and turn on the water to the fields. Will the government use armed force to stop them? Surely Obama would but would love to see this on Fox News, as the MSM wouldn't report it.

We can't have the tail wagging the dog. We need to stop asking permission to live our lives from this socialist pig and take matters into our own hands. Good luck!!!

A wonderful idea.
This is an American issue.
I live in CT and I am outraged to see fertile land and hardworking people upon whom we all depend, ruined by a gang of the "repulsive elite".
It is time to take America back from these effete thugs.
This is exactly what the farmers should do.
America will back them, believe me.
Many thanks "Nonsense"!!!!

Easy solution, and probably at the heart of the agenda.

Force out all the independent family farms and sell the area off to huge multi-national corporations for pennies on the dollar and throw in a host massive subsidies for their benefit.

The water will certainly flow unabated at that point.

This is a payback for the Chinese, we import food from China, it's been going on for awhile. It's not about the fish. This is what we get for borrowing money from foreigners. The farmers in this area are lining up in at food banks so they can eat. Most of them are from Mexico, { hey Mexicans how's that amnesty working out for ya}. Nothing more than modern day slavery. Being that I live in Colorado and Salazar was one of our senators, I knew that it couldn't be good for U.S. when he was piked for interior sec. He's been screwing the workers in Colorado for some time. He screwed us on the oil shale projects years ago, then when he was appointed to interior dept he stopped all oil shale projects in colo ,utah and wyo. I worked in these industries. Every time he was elected over here to the senate I had to find a new job. I worked in the natural gas industry up until the obamao election, now I have been unemployed for a year, with no jobs in sight in western colo.

Kill the fish! Turn the water back on!

Now Syn, there you go again.
Interesting little website you posted. Is that the one you cite that says the moon is made of cheddar cheese? Water rights have been a big deal here in the west for over one hundred years, and the battle will only intensify as people like Boone Pickens and Ted Turner continue to purchase water.

Currently, in Montana, folks from downstream in Colorado, California, Nevada and Arizona are coming north and buying water rights on the Yellowstone River, and trying to figure out how to swap them out downstream. I have mixed thoughts on that, but every time I cross the Yellowstone ahorseback, I pause midestream to reflect upon it, and ley my hoss releive himself, whilst I think of those nice folk downstream.

As Obama sows…….so shall we NOT reap.

Make it very clear to all those who are in power and have the influence to change this ridiculous situation that the issue WILL BE remembered at the polls. Perhaps the government actually wishes to redistribute food and wealth to China – it does after all tie in with their belief system. WOODSTOCK REJECTS!!!!!!!

It gets even stupider here in California. There are unelected officials here who are 2 weeks away from passing an ordinance that calls for a fine and possible jail time unless our tires are inflated properly. This is no joke. Every month we will be required to show that our tires have enough air because if they don't it will be wasting fuel. I heard it quoted, although not positive about the facts, that under-inflated tires cause a .2% increase in fuel consumption.

I must say, I live in Colorado, The enviromentalists don't really give a shit about animals unless they can bitch about something that they don't like. Case in point, over here they bitch about the natural gas industry using up the wildlife grazing land. But when the drilling rigs are done on a site the land is reclaimed and is in better shape than it was before they got there, they plant grass seed and there is food there for deer and elk. But when the developers come in and build their golf coarses and sub divisions no one says a damn thing. Another thing I noticed is animals are not afraid of inanimate objects, they are afraid of people, once the rigs are gone their gone!!! No people there!!! But the golf coarses and sub-divisions have people there all the time!!!

Gary__K

This isn't meant to rebut…I am sure that there are libtards who are planning windmills to replace California's farmland, but keep in mind the crazy activists who are mounting a successful opposition to windmills being placed out in the middle of California's Mojave desert. Because of…sight pollution. This kind of crazy is just hard to do battle with because sane people stop and think "Surely this isn't happening!"

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rl...

Of course he would……….

Some in Congress have already moved to take control of all waters in the US. Introduced in April 2009 Senator Feingold's "S.787 – Clean Water Restoration Act – A bill to amend the Federal Water Pollution Control Act to clarify the jurisdiction of the United States over waters of the United States" " Amends the Federal Water Pollution Control Act (commonly known as the Clean Water Act) to replace the term "navigable waters" that are subject to such Act with the term "waters of the United States," defined to mean all waters subject to the ebb and flow of the tide, the territorial seas, and all interstate and intrastate waters and their tributaries, including lakes, rivers, streams (including intermittent streams), mudflats, sandflats, wetlands, sloughs, prairie potholes, wet meadows, playa lakes, natural ponds, and all impoundments of the foregoing…"

Add me to the list, if there is one. ____" I won't be told, I won't be controlled, I won't be dictated to. I simply want left alone. In exchange for that, I will grant others the same courtesy. That is how I live my life. "____The above are words to live by. Any movement which determines you can live your life better if only they can control you more . . . is delusional.____"Live, and Learn" . . . I have, and I did. We have swung from a "Live and Let Live" society–to a "let me tell you how" to live your life society. Unacceptable!

(Sunstein is a "tweaker."

I'm originally from Michigan, back in the day, when I was a youngster we would go smelting. When the smelt were running. This entailled getting into the river with a net and a big cooler on the river bank. The idea was to catch as many fish as you could before getting to drunk to get in the river. It was a lot of fun!! If you could empty a cooler of beer you had more room for smelt!! They are okay to eat also, grill em up!!

The economy family sized can of corn or the itty bitty single serving sized can? If you promise that this is all it takes to really show the left….God knows march on DC, town halls, and a landslide in Massachusetts did little to show them…hard to believe all this time all we needed was a can of corn. That seems weird.

I just cannot bring myself to watch, it's too painful to sit and listen to one lie/spin after another. And see puppet pelosi clap like a seal -

I may be wrong about this but I remember reading an article about how California farmland is gerrymandered into blue districts so their voices are weakened by the blue metropolitan areas. It was a few months ago that I read that and can't find it now. Just something in the back of my head about that subject.
If someone knows more about that, I will respectfully defer.

You’ve got a mean streak Cowboy. LOL!

Please watch. You'll be in a better position the next day as pundits hit the streets with talking points. And the Republican rebuttal afterwards will make more sense.
(Don't think I'm pushing the Republican party line. I'm an Independent and I aim to stay that way.)

That was from firedoglake? I thought that was one very left leaning site.

HELL YEAH I'VE HAD ENOUGH!

This provides even yet another reason to get behind the 10th Ammendment momentum building.
here's a great site to add to your favorites to keep up with that momentum
http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/

IF that were true
Then why does Northern California ration there water when Southern California waters there LAWN in the rain

BTW the water comes from the NORTH

Actually he did.;..I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed…
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_01160...

Water is a necessity. The second most important thing in the world after air. What a great way to start a famine. Cut off the water. Without water there is no food. Now, the EPA says that CO2 is a poisonous gas. Well, we exhale carbon dioxide with every breath. How are they going to make us pay for that? I bet they are thinking of a way to cut off the air so that we, the un-elite people don't take away something from the far left elite who feel like they own it all.

Shades of Mao.

dunno.. but Karma doesn't care much for that sort of thing. (he says thinking about his remote property in NoWhere Ok. :~)

Check out the new version of "Mmm Mmm Mmm Barack Hussein Obama" at: http://www.myspace.com/rogerweber

You'll get a laugh!

Yeah. Don' I though!

Thats great.
The only words of advice I'd give, is buy more ammo……

I hate it when HISTORY bites back
Learn or DIE

Get off the ROID's and grow a pair

The Central Valley doesn't vote for Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein – the liberal coastal zones from SF, Santa Cruz and LA vote them in. The west side is now at 39% unemployment due to this environmental water policy, my county -Stanislaus is at 26%. The prime farm land will be the new dust bowl due to the liberal progressives. Fish(environmental control) over people – I am so dusgusted and angry. The Gov is just as guilty and the Rino Meg Whitman running for Gov is just as bad, giving thousands to John Kerry and environmental causes that smash landowner rights to keep her view pristine for her vacation home.

I fear you are correct. It seems our Democratic overlords are trying to create a food crisis. Leftist in this country have stated that they would use food as a weapon to achive their political goals.

The problem is that you can't tell they've been brain damaged until it's too late and they've done something stupid. That's why we are where we are now. Better safe than sorry.

And the founding fathers never intended for public service to become a career with royal privileges, as in special health care, large salaries, and generous pensions.

We have elections. Elections are term limits. The people are the judge. I don't want an arbitrary law to decide that for me.

The Obama's Don't care about our farmers Michelle has a garden.

I read an actual scientific journal about 3 years ago (something that these marxists obviously haven't done) which clearly stated that at that time they had the requisite technology to run 97 linear miles of wire and mirrors in the SW desert and that those 97 miles of wire and mirrors would generate enough solar power to meet the needs of ALL the contiguous 48 on a daily basis.
Sooooo why do we need to put a windfarm in the most agriculturally rich region of the country?
Care to comment, Cass?

Exactly, meanwhile we buy produce from China when we live in the freakin Land of Milk and Honey. This makes no sense.

At least u didn't insult Curious George.

No CA farmers = more produce from Mexico and South America………..just what the Libs want. This way they get more campaign cash….

Well, we have a right to health care, but not water. That is good, 'cuz you will need medical care without water. He is a genius before his time.

Doesn't San Fran Nan's husband own a cannery? And therefore she has a vested interest in bait fish?

it all makes sense now. . . whatever liberal hypcrites view as "just causes" are considered rights under bobo's rule. . . but whatever liberal hypocrites consider "wrong" are considered privileges under bobo's rule. . . once again liberal hypcrites suppress the truth by changing the meaning of simple words. . . hope and change you can believe in. . .

It's always fish vs. famers, man against beast. This is people against people. People depend on fish for jobs. Nobody sheding a tear for large number of fishermen out of work or empty coastal towns. Lets just suck more freshwater out of the Delta so Westland can sell it to S. California. Since when is it okay to sell subsidized water? Water meant for farmers sold to LA at market value.

IF there was a real man as governor of California then those water lines would be opened and State National Guardsmen stationed there to keep them that way.

Yeah, one can't help but draw similar conclusions.

This Delta smelt isn't even native to California. Existing regulations ban any creature that is not native to California from being brought here. It or they are to be shipped out of State to where they came from or naturally thrive and exist.

Big secret the environmentalists do not want the public to know:

CA DEPT OF FISH & GAME
RESTRICTED SPECIES LAWS AND REGULATIONS
MANUAL 671

Hold on until November. The absolute loons can be defeated and should be. What also needs to be done is defund those left wing radical, non elected agencies who have no accountabibility. They should not have any law-making authority unless they are elected.

These people like Pelosi get reelected due to the large numbers of immigrants in SF.

Did you know that Chinese immigrants are 40 percent of SF? Wonder why the media isn't making that known? Many came during the 1970's and 80's. Sorry to say, but being under a dictator is in their DNA.

Academics (professors and admin staff) at the many universities in the Bay Area are another reason for her support. Teachers, attorneys, college students, wealthy whites, and immigrants from 3rd world countries and Europe form the basis of Democratic power in SF.

The Delta Smelt is not native to California. By law, it is to be shipped out of State to wherever it belongs.

CA DEPT OF FISH & GAME
RESTRICTED SPECIES LAWS AND REGULATIONS
MANUAL 671

Yes, this is true. The Central Valley votes Red. So does Shasta and Lassen counties. In the south, Orange County and San Diego county usually votes Red.

Its L.A. and SF and the "kooks on the koast" such as Santa Barbara and Monterey who vote Blue.

You got it – this is why 3rd worlders are welcomed here as immigrants. Living under a dictator is in the DNA and they really do not understand Democracy. They enjoy the benefits of democracy, however they just do not get it that democracy takes work to sustain.

The car companies, big banks, wall street and now water systems. In whose mind can water possibly be defined as a privilege not a right? This administration would rather continue to put people out of work rather than letting them get back to work and shape the future.

Our politicians are no longer Representatives of the people but Rulers of the people and as long as we continue to allow this type of behavior we will have no one to blame but ourselves. It seems to me that with almost 50% of registered voters now claiming to be independents Americans are starting to wake up to the ludicrous behavior of those we send to govern.

Just a Blue Collar Perspective

With so much colateral damage going on with everything Obama touches. I am starting to wonder if Obama and these Communists won't try and create a crises to where Obama declares martial law to stop an election in November?

i think conservatives always right off mass as the liber loon capital justlike obama and cakley thought we where gonna just had over our seat to the elitist king's emipire only for them to have absolute power to taxation with representation! but they don't realize we have been throught this before! my family on my mothers side dates back to the mayflower and we learn from our history of inquisition from the trials in salem and the tyranny of the british elitists!
isn't history a b%^&h massachusetts says bend over obama not bend over americe my has the tide turned in the baystate!!!!

[...] to let the delta smelt die. Obama to California ‘Water, Its Not a Right its a Privilege’ from Big Government by John [...]

beware of the great messiah our savior emporer obama,

for he has taken the path of the dark side and undereath that suit and smile is a dark sith lord! and the force of the leftist elist dark side is very powerful with that one

he dazzles you with great looking speeches while using the force to mind trick you to obey and surrender to the mesiah!

well america its time for some rehab to kick the koolaid habit!

Keep in mind that these are the very same liberals who revere the delta smelt, but will fight to the death for the right to murder 3,000 unborn babies every day. What is the matter with these people???

Another irony here is that these are also the same people, fighting to put California farmers out of business, but working their butts off to pass legislation to force all Americans to eat fruits and vegetables instead of the things they WANT to eat. But I guess we'll have to buy those fruits and veggies from China and Venezuela…

Term limits or elections for all judges. They legislate from the bench and are accountable to noone. A conservative judge – now that's an endangered species!

Smelt are fine to eat! Just snip off the head with sissors, gut them and fry them up!

This deal smelts to high heavens.

We also made it a criminal offense to dock a cow's tail. Steve Poizner (insurance commissioner) is running for govenor and his main thing is reducing the State Legislature to part time. Lawmakers in CA have nothing important to do- God got all the good laws with the Ten Commandments- so cows and their tails are the only things left! I'll be voting for Poizner, but I think he is behind in the polls.

Folks, rights and privileges are the same thing.

Read the Fourteenth Amendment.

Privileges or Immunities = RIGHTS.

Farmers pretty much vote Red/Republican throughout the country so I'm sure these folks are victims of the big city progressives in LA/San Fran/San Diego/ etc. Of course we all know the Marxist/Progressive/Liberal policies don't work (can you say Detroit or New Orleans?)and eventually those areas choke and die under their own social programs as the producers eventually get fed up with being piggybanks for the welfare left and they flee the area just as you did "harley2002". Unfortunately after enough producers move away and the money dries up then those lefties also leave for fiscally responsible red states where their cancer once again takes root and destroys another state. I suspect plenty of those welfare leftist in CA will start heading to places like TX where their numbers will grow and they will gain enough people/votes to start implementing their destructive progressive policies again.

I've never heard that before (banning people from collecting rain water off their roof), do you know where this happens and what their justifications is? I'd tell them they could go F themselves.

so this Missouri battle that was lost several years ago .. where the same issues were at stake…. where the government put animals over people and "took control of the water , and as you said stole the land" what democrats were responsible .. was it Obama ? Clinton ? the democrat controlled congress, house ?? No it was not ., point the finger at your own people. It is so easy to blame the current problems on the current administration but lets not forget how they got there … can you say republican mis management of the entire country ? can you say the republicans screwed up absolutely everything ? try it real slow…

What has happened to our government? Has every body drank the Obama cool aid?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/

Turn On The Water In Central California –Get Your Brain Out Of The Muck — Let Our Farmers Farm!!
Keeping the water off is criminal.
Making us dependent on food from China is Un-American.

We see what you are doing and we are not happy………Here comes November 2010 !

We have seen what this country would be like under a DEMOCRATIC FACIST government this past year with no checks and balances to ultimate power…….

Now with the lose of the DEMOCRATIC SUPER MAJORITY we hear the DEMOCRATS say……

"Oh…..we're sorry…..we'll be more moderate and listen to our citizens……. "

DEMOCRATS ARE JUST TRYING TO SAVE THEIR ARSES……

FOOL ME ONCE……SHAME ON YOU…….FOOL ME TWICE……..SHAME ON ME…..

WE ARE THROWING OFF THE CHAINS AND ARE RUNNING FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PLANTATION.

Monday when? Monday TODAY?? I live in the Los Angeles area but have children and it's hard to take off same day with no notice… please tell me this meeting is NEXT MONDAY…. ??

"Have you seen the price of arugula at the Whole Foods?"
–B. Obama

The high prices won't phase them. They'll gladly pay $10 for their produce, so long as they can do it at a store that makes them feel good. They won't even notice that prices are going up at the stores that the "poor" people shop at–but if they do, it will be evil Wal-Mart's fault for raising the prices so high that honest, hard-working poor people can't afford to pay.

The Mugarbage targeting of the white farmers was designed to punish the black Zim electorate who refused to give him the presidency for life in a referendum. In the process he destroyed the food supply and the people were too hungry to fight. However, by taking the farms, he destroyed the Zim banking system since they held all the mortgages (and farm loans). It's so tragic that we elected someone who thinks like the worst of African leaders.

And we get the delicious Chinese produce.

Exactly. Where is the celebrity telethon for the California farmers? Brad Pitt? Sean Penn?

purty close LiberT, actually the title of his book is" Nudge", if memory serves.

This is endlessly frustrating. Why don't armed citizens just turn the water on themselves. Forget the government red tape. Don't let them shut it off without a fight.

I like it "nonsense"! Rose is just one of those farmers and a Tea Party activist who has been doing a ton of work on this. I will be sure she sees this.

I have thought the same thing.

The issue of starving the Central Valley is supported by the salmon industry as salmon eat the smelt. Isn't that special.

Nice try sean. The poison pill here is the Endangered Species Act which was a key issue of the hard left. It is a weapon that only became law because of the decency and a bit of naivete' of the American public who "cares". That the tool is effective during both Dem and GOP administrations reveals the evil genius in its design.

Okie…..Try to concentrate….OK?
HALF….1/2….OF THE FRUITS AND VEG CONSUMED IN THE ENTIRE USA ARE PRODUCED IN
the SanJoaquin Valley….GET IT??? You must be a meat & taters guy. Imagine going to your local
grocery store & half the produce shelves are empty. If your family eats lots of these fruits & veg, you'll
start watching for the truck that hauls them in, so you can be there to get yours first. Everybody in town
catches on & begins to arrive as the truck is being unloaded. Next they start pushin & shovin &
stabbin & shootin one another, in line. That's when bo's little "internal security force" that "shall" be
as " well funded as our military" will have to step in to restore order. The imported produce will not
continue to show up on our local store shelves if it is produced in China. The coastal & border areas
will be able to acquire some imported produce, but the internal parts of the nation will not see fresh
produce unless we grow it ourselves. The produce will go where the money is…..

I live in the middle of all this. I had a chance to spend some vacation time and money in SF recently, my wife tells me"I don't want anything to do with SF". Somehow she knew what I was thinking at the same time.
Until the dinner plates in the land of Boxer-Fienstein-Pelosi is too expensive to enjoy, they'll never get it. They don't care where it comes from, as long as it's cheap and plentiful. It'll be neither pretty damn soon.

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I hate these bastards in our government who are responsible for this criminal abuse of power!

Ya, but just think, soon white European males will be the minority in the U.S., circa 2050, then they can apply for special status, carry guns illegally, and beat people up in justifiable frustration from the prejudice they endure.

THOSE FARMERS???……..WAY TO GET INVOLVED! I'll be right behind you. Sooooo….Should
"those farmers" shoot it out with the Feds, the Natl Guard, just to raise some produce to ship
to your uninvolved a$$????????? We'll raise enough to feed our families & we'll be on the look
out for you, when you come sneakin around, tryin to steal somethin for yourself.
None of this "those", "they", but rather, WE & OUR, that is, if you wanna eat. Got it, jerk?

The Delta Smelt (Hypomesus transpacificus) is native, but it is not endangered. The Redbook listing is B1+2cd which has nothing to do with any actual population studies, let alone measured population declines. The listing criteria is mostly related to area of endemicity. It was listed in 1996 for political reasons by a non-ichthyologist, and is need of revision. Some real facts:

1) Average lifespan is about 1 year.
2) Minimum population doubling time is less the 15 months ( smallest that can be calculated)
3) Vulnerability 16 of 100 ( low)
4) Its is a forage species so its main limit on population is predation from fish like the introduced Striped Bass!
5) It is anadromous and able to tolerate a large range of conditions.
6) it is Pelagic and only 6-7 cm long so damn difficult do population studies on.

Taken together we have a species that has a naturally widely varying population that changes radically through the year. It real population is hard to measure. And it is the target of predation from an introduced predator. This is just the type of organism that the left tries to find to use Environmental legislation as a vector to force their anti-human progressive agenda.

Think back to 1996 when this fish was listed. Its exactly the same time when the left was doing everything in their power to shut down California Agriculture. Remember the fairy shrimp?

Why is no one with influence bringing up the obvious? I am somewhat of an expert in Aquatic Ecology, though I do not have a degree and I currently make my living as a Software Architect specialising in instrumentation ( a far cry from fish biology), so who is going to listen to me? I am like a weatherman who is dismissed because he is not a "Climate Scientist". I just hope some one with some weight looks into this and spreads the word.

Right Louis,
Raw veggies is about those skinny bitches eat

exactly the right point.. don't wish your neighbor's guns to be taken away – he won't be there for you when they come to take yours. it's 10th Ammendment and Nullifaction time !!
http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/

Right Blanche, I'll be right BEHIND you. What caliber is your firearm? You're just full of advice aren't
you? On your previous post you advise fellow citizens to take up arms against the Federal Gov &
now you "play" English teacher. My your interests are certainly varied. If you are unwilling to personally
join the fight, your advice to others is unwelcome.

When will Californians get a clue?

Whoa! Mr. Loudon needs to do more background before he writes such a slanted article! First off, I'm not an environmentalist. Water has been shipped off to areas in the central valley to grow cotton, which is a high water crop, in "desert" type areas. Wrong crop in the wrong location! The southern farmers got the San Joaquin shut off so the river didn't flow and it took the courts to get the river to run again. The LA water district will do anything to take water. The courts had to stop them from ruining Mono Lake. The California Delta is is serious trouble. I know because I have run a boat in the delta for over 20 years and i have seen the problems and seen them get worse. Water problems in California get worse because no one wants to address the fact that there is a limited supply and unrestrained growth in desert areas cannot be sustained by a volume of water that cannot support it. For some odd reason Souther California does not consider desalination plants as a method to get more water. That's odd because the rest of the world sees making fresh water from sea water a solution in areas where fresh water is hard to come by. I understand the farmers problem, but they have brought most of them upon themselves. When the water flows backward in the Delta because of the pumps the Smelt are just and indicator that the system is broken.

where thomas jefferson when you need him! id like him to pay a game of backetball with this dark sith lord obama the messiah in disguise!
it tyranny i say sir tyranny i will not stand idly by to become a victim or yout treasonous trechery!
thats what my vote said just 2 miles south of the witch house in salem thatcold snowy colonial day!

i don't think he got the message he's drinking chairman mao's koolaid and letting nambla keep our kids safe in school!
everyone thinks this is dissent on healthcare no one seems to realize this is so so so much greater it a division of this great nation from its very core sir! wake up or feel the rage of the people grow and grow!

Bill, I assume you are an honest player here and not an antagonist. Let me assure you that I have done a ton of research and interviews on this subject. The facts that you lay out are your general take on the matter with a fair amount of opinion like "the farmers brought this on themselves" and "desalination" would be a natural solution. Without going tit for tat, I understand the perspective of the fishing industry, specifically salmon. Fewer smelt means fewer salmon. And who would trade a freshwater river for salty or brackish. Salt eats the crap out of a water cooled boat. I hope you dock yours in fresh water. I always boated freshwater rivers and lakes in my Chris Craft.
Now, setting your bias aside, see things through my prism for a moment. When analyzing public policy I first look to trusted agents on the ground. Then I look at the broader implications of the policy. Finally, I consider the equity in the application of the rules.
The local GOP Congressmen are fighting for a temporary waiver. Are they wrong?
If the Endangered Species Act can be used to cause a drought in California, Atlanta, and even limit water in Missouri (that State's delta was the "victim") then maybe the law is bad or being misapplied.
I cannot say with absolute certainty that the law is being misapplied. What I can say with certainty, and believe I did, is that the stakes are unbelievably high, therefore if we are experimenting with a proposed solution to save the fish or even the river in the short term, then we ought to be willing to experiment to save the farms with a Two Gates project for starters, at least for the short term.
A caution: If you are giving your assent to this administrations new and onerous precedents in the application of power then you ought not cry when that power is one day applied against you. Unless you sail or drive a hydrogen powered boat, please be careful what you wish for.

Farmers pretty much vote Red/Republican throughout the country so I'm sure these folks are victims of the big city progressives in LA/San Fran/San Diego/ etc. Of course we all know the Marxist/Progressive/Liberal policies don't work (can you say Detroit or New Orleans?)and eventually those areas choke and die under their own social programs as the producers eventually get fed up with being piggybanks for the welfare left and they flee the area just as you did "harley2002". Unfortunately after enough producers move away and the money dries up then those lefties also leave for fiscally responsible red states where their cancer once again takes root and destroys another state. I suspect plenty of those welfare leftist in CA will start heading to places like TX where their numbers will grow and they will gain enough people/votes to start implementing their destructive progressive policies again.

I agree, Arnold needs to "MAN" way up!

I remember last year hearing some guy being interviewed on radio, maybe on beck.
This fellow was telling about regs hidden in some huge bill Congress had passed,
in the dark of night, outlawing home gardeners raising food. When I heard it, I remem-
ber thinking it was the nuttiest thing I had ever heard. How would it be enforced? Since
then I've had time to reflect on the problems & ramifications of such a step by the gubmt,
if attempted. Can you say satellite photos / drones? We'll all be goin' to Mexico, smugglin in
a 100# bag of beans instead of drugs. And due to this we'll finally get border enforcement.
All this crap is too crazy to even talk about, therefor probably true.

Yes!!!! You get it. Thank you browncoat!

ssssssshhhhhh……RxDan. quiet…….we don't want the publicity. You see when the cali-
fornians come in they start raisin hell for all the services they had in cali , & ruin their new
location trying to make it more like their former home. Besides the Gulf of Mexico has all
those offshore oil platforms, they're eyesores to east & west coasters.

Just another government take over and control by the B.O. administration. If water is a privilege when will they
try and control the air we breath and how much will that be taxed ??.

I just wonder how long is it going to take for Californians to wake up and realize that their 2 party's are one in the same. Arnold is suppose to be a repub and yet these people wont wake up and get out the vote for Constitutional conservative candidates. Wake up and quit letting these people twist and squirm out of their job of upholding your Constitutions. Goooh.com is the answer

Why don't the farmers just go and turn on the water? Tell the govt to go to hell. They can't put 35,000 people in jail. Take charge and turn on the water!

This is about getting the conservatives out of the Central Valley and guaranteeing 55 permanent Democrat electoral votes.

Another organization that is helping:

http://www.familiesprotectingthevalley.com

Also the Latino Water Coalition headed by Mario Santoyo and Paul Rodriguez the comic.

It's true and George Miller (Nancy Pelosi's his sockpuppet) has options on thousands of acres in the Coast Range and on the west side of the valley where the electricity would be generated and shipped to the people on the coast.

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The guy that wrote this, must be from another planet.
100 % of the Olives grown are grown near Fresno ?….he needs to take a ride north to Corning.
Asparagus, he needs to look at Victoria Island & the thousands of acers in the delta that grow Asparagus [ aka grass ].
Strawberries from the South, …Ahhhh, you know the ones that look beautiful but have absolutely no flavor,…
How could we survive, with out those beautiful taste less berries?
This guy could write for Walt Disney,……..100 % pure fiction.
The problem is, alotta people from "HERE",…. believe every word of this "BOUGHT " political bull shi!.

The government is a machine set into motion by congress – the sausage making factory. It has no heart and no brain. The idea that it will take care of us and our problems assumes the machine can think and feel. It can not.

By the time Congress gets around to adding a cog or wire to the machine to steer it away from killing and breaking people, a lot of people are harmed and sometimes killed.

Not only is it indiginous, it's indemic to the Sacramento/San Joaquin delta. i.e. it's found nowhere else on earth. Kind of a mute point though as this issue is not about the delta smelt or as many pundits like to call it "the 2 inch fish". It's really about an ailing delta ecosystem and the many industries, delta farming included, that are being harmed by it's destruction. The smelt is to the delta what the canary is to the coal mine. As it goes, so goes the delta and its commercial and recreational fisheries. Already, many coastal communities that depend on the viability of the chinook salmon run have been decimated. We are talking 100% unemployment for the commercial salmon fleet. Throw in the vast millions of dollars lost in the fishing retail and guiding industry and the issue becomes not one of people vs fish but of one industry vs another industry. On one side you have a group making a living off of a natural renewable resourse and on the other you have subsidized, junior water rights holders growing water intensive crops in the desert. Not so cut and dry really

Yes Kevin……..ALgore advocated this exact scenario several years ago…….said, "our resources were
wasted in the production of food……..it will be cheaper to buy our food abroad". The big North American
grain companies have gone multinational in the last several years, as have the big agricultural input pro
vidors. They could see the "handwriting on the wall" so to speak, thus began operations in So America.
First our Agricultural Research Universities were sent into these countries to do "research", at State &
Fed Gov't expense. When farmers in the US protested, we were told the research they were doing was
only for OUR benefit. Due to the climate (longer growing season) they said they could work more econo
mically. Also land in So America was almost free. Then we heard about the poor local population who
would work almost free, & desperately needed jobs. For the record, we didn't believe any of it, from the
beginning. What we originally feared came true, they created competition for US farmers, thus flooding
world grain markets with soybeans & corn. US tax dollars paid for this expansion & pounded grain
prices to the breaking point. With the exception of years like 1981& 2008, grain prices have barely been
at cost of production, sometimes below. In 2008 our cost of production doubled so even though prices
were excellent our profits were nil. Our own gov't created competition that eroded US marketshare.
We were lead to believe the Univ were only helping some poor peasants learn to eek out a meager ex-
istence. What they were actually doing was helping the elites in So America bring their vast land
holdings into agricultural production. All at US taxpayer expense. In some parts of So America they
raise grain in areas where there are no storage facilities, ( I'm sure our gv't is working to solve this pro-
blem) & there is not even a hi-way system, for trucking the products to the coasts for export. In Argen-
tina I believe they haul the grain over 1000 miles to market in trucks, there is no rail system. The grain
is piled on the ground, where it rapidly deteriorates, until it can be removed to the ports. However the
minute it is harvested & piled up, their gov't "estimates" the quantity, releases to world agricultural
media, which in some instances plunges grain prices, even though the product is not readily available
for export, as is US produced crop. This has played out over 30 to 40 years.
IF YOU FOLKS LIKED THE OIL EMBARGO OF THE 70's YOU'RE GONNA LOVE THE FOOD EMBARGO
IN THE 2010's When you have been living in a land of plenty all your life, then begin to see your child-
ren starve, murder is no obstacle.

Oh my god!!! Obama is trying to get rid of CO2! Plants need CO2 to survive!!!!! He really is trying to starve us all! god help us

smelt…babies…you can't eat either of them…I'm just sayin….

[...] all logic, they cut off the water to Central California for the sake of the delta smelt, unsure whether it will save the small bait [...]

It's happening in Colorado too. The Feds want more water to flow out of the state because of the Endangered Species Act.

And liberal cities like Boulder, Colorado and wanna be cowboy poet closet environmentalist judges like Judge Hobbs on the Supreme Court are more than glad to oblige the Feds.

These irrigation well haters succeeded in getting a few thousand irrigation wells shut off in the South Platte river and ensure they stay shut off by beating farmers up in water court every time the farmers try to gain back at least a little bit of use of their wells.

I dream of the day these people would have to import their food from China because they are making it impossible for us to put Colorado's resources to their best use by growing abundant food.

I'm sooooooo sick of this socialist/communist BS!!!

This reminds me of what history tells us about the Ukraine under Stalin in 1933. "A famine deliberately engineered by the regime of Josef Stalin 70 years ago claimed millions of lives, mostly in Ukraine but also in some other parts of the Soviet Union." From an article from Radio Free Europe, this is the url. http://www.ukemonde.com/news/rferl.html , just copy and past. Keeping water from the valley and selling off our grain reserves will create just a famine.

Or the house!

oh well. move to northern california or stop complaining.

LOL

So, what is the solution? So far, all I've read is bitch and groan.

Nature Shrugging too . .

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Where does the Federal government get the power to tell the State and people of California how to manage their own water resources?

As with the EPA in general its not in the U.S. Federal Constitution.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constit...

The only thing the Feds could even conceivably have a legitimate case is if somehow other States were involved, and in dispute with California over the issue.

But no other State is involved here, no other State is disputing California!

This should be exclusively a California matter!

To that end y'all should tell the Feds to take a hike and turn YOUR water back on.

Excellent Article! I personally really enjoy your writing. This is a great website. I will make sure that I stop back again!.

This is why residents that pay taxes should leave California. As long as they stay there and finance this lunacy they will get what they pay for. I love Cali but not the politics of Cali. We are a nation of immigrants, is it too much to move elsewhere in your own country when you descended from people who crossed an ocean to flee bad policies and poverty?
California will never be repaired until they are forced to stand alone to deal with the problems, like this, that they create for themselves.
Time for tough love. Smart taxpayers should leave and there should be no federal bailout of their overspending.

This is why we are going after the Congressmen. These parasites need to be cleaned out. Please take a moment to see what we are doing to take pensions and benefits away from Congress. They screw up everything and get wealthy from our tax dollars? We can't be THAT stupid. Please take a look. If you agree then just tell others about us. Keep up the good fight!!
http://www.20turns.com

maybe they land owners are white, but I betcha lots of Mexican Americans enjoy their job on these farms. I"m confused by your comment…

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How about keeping and bearing arms to defend our lives, our liberties, our rights and our property? Can a state or local militia stand guard over the pipes and connections that pipes the water where it needs to go? These days every citizen needs to be armed and every town, hamlet, county and state needs a well armed militia to protect themselves from America's worst enemies, the organized criminals, in congress, in bureaucracies and in the presidency. The lying and thieving congressmen, bureaucrats and politicians are doing everything in their power to steal America and enslave and impoverish the citizens.

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