Gun Control Advocates Make up Facts about Concealed Handgun Laws
by John R. Lott, Jr.People walking the streets armed with guns must be dangerous, right? The Brady Campaign and the Violence Policy Center keep claiming that even those individuals who have legally obtained permits to carry concealed handguns are extremely dangerous. With millions of Americans already having been issued such permits from the various states, this is an important issue.

The gun control organizations have frequently made these claims in the press. The Associated Press articles by Erik Schelzig and by Jim Abrams have given extensive, uncritical coverage. Members of the gun control organizations have made these claims unchallenged on such places as Fox News and on the Huffington Post. But the gun control advocates inaccurately describe many shooting cases, choosing to ignore that the majority of incidents involve people properly defending themselves.
Over the past three years, the number of active permit holders in the United States has gone from about 5 million to more than 6.2 million today. The numbers issued by the state regulatory agencies show time after time that these permit holders abide by the law.
Take Florida, which currently has the most concealed handgun permit holders in the country and is one of the two most populous states with right-to-carry laws. Between Oct. 1, 1987, and May 31 this year, permits had been issued to 1.8 million people. On average, the permits had been held for quite a long time, well over 10 years. For all those individuals across the more than 22 years of legal carry, there were only 167 cases where the permit was revoked for a firearms related violation, or about 0.01 percent of permit holders. While the state doesn’t provide a precise breakdown of the reason for those revocations, the vast majority were apparently for people who accidentally carried their concealed handgun into a gun-free zone, such as an airport or school.
Throughout the past 30 months, beginning January 2008, only three additional permit holders have had their permit revoked for a firearms-related violation. With more than 739,000 active permit holders, that is an annual revocation rate of 0.00017 percent.
In sharp contrast, the Brady Campaign and the Violence Policy Center portray Florida as Ground Zero for problems with concealed handgun permit holders. They boldly assert that 17 Florida permit holders have “killed” people with their guns over the past three years and that this one state by itself accounts for 17 of the 96 “killer” permit holders nationwide. The other 79 cases are scattered across 26 other states, with no other state accounting for more than 10 cases. Florida is also said to account for 2 of the 7 cases where permit holders are said to have killed law enforcement officers.
So what is the evidence? The gun control groups don’t actually point to actual court cases. They look at news stories and selectively report what is reported in those stories. For Florida, there are eleven “pending cases.” The gun control groups assume that anyone involved in a shooting will be convicted. Indeed, in 7 of the 11 cases no one was even charged with a crime. Three cases involved suicides, and three had convictions for some type of offense. (See this link for a detailed presentation of sources.)
But there is something that the gun control advocates conveniently omit: When a permit holder uses a gun defensively and kills an attacker in a public place, the police often arrest them. Typically, he will later be released, but the police must first investigate what happened. The police can’t just take the shooter’s word for it that they used the gun defensively.
Take the four pending cases where charges were filed, two of which involved the “killing” of law enforcement.
– Humberto Delgado, Jr. was charged with the death of a police officer. Delgado obviously engaged in a horrible crime, but there is one major problem with the stories as presented by the gun control groups. He also was charged with carrying a concealed firearm. If he had a concealed handgun permit, he obviously couldn’t have been charged with this crime. Delgado was just your typical criminal, who didn’t have a permit, who killed a police officer.
– James Wonder was charged with the death of an off-duty Customs and Border Protection Agent Donald Pettit. Pettit is said to have engaged in road rage against Wonder and then followed Wonder’s car into a Post Office parking lot solely to continue harassing Wonder. Pettit had over shot the parking lot and had to circle back to go into it. He had no intention to do business with either the Post Office or any other nearby business. Pettit was clearly the aggressor in the situation. The Sun-Sentinel newspaper wrote on August 29, 2008: “local lawyers said [Wonder] may be able to make a strong claim under Florida law that he was within his rights to shoot Pettit.” One measure of the severity of the case is that Wonder was released on a very minimal bond of $10,000. Neither the Brady Campaign nor the Violence Policy Center noted these points in their discussion of the case.
– Gabriel Mobley shot two people outside a bar, and the gun control groups’ discussions fail to mention the defensive nature of Mobley’s actions. A friend of Mobley’s had an argument with two other men in a bar. Mr. Mobley separated the men, but the two waited outside and Mobley’s lawyer, Richard Della Ferra, told me that they pounced on Mobley and his friend as soon as they left the bar. Witnesses saw one of the two attackers throw a punch that shattered the friend’s eye socket. Mobley says that he shot when he thought one of the two men was reaching for a weapon, and police found the DNA of one of the men on a steak knife at the scene.
– On January 7, 2008, Adam Hill was accused of accidentally firing his gun, the bullet fatally striking a friend while the friend had visited Hill to use his washing machine. Since the case has yet to go to trial, the law office that is representing Hill was unwilling to discuss the case, but they did say that the news articles did not accurately represent what had happened in the case. The law office representing Hill in his legal case emphasized to me in a telephone discussion that news articles on these cases can be quite misleading because defense lawyers warn their clients not to talk to others about their case, including the press.
Two of the three convictions in Florida are quite different than what gun control groups represent. One involved a boyfriend who accidentally shot his girlfriend when he was showing her how to use a gun in her home. There was no evidence of arguing or any disagreement. In another case, the issue was whether the permit holder had done enough to avoid the confrontation. A convicted felon confronted the permit holder. According to newspaper accounts, even the prosecutor acknowledged: “Kallenbach was in some way defending himself during an escalating altercation between the men caught on the security video” and that “People can look at that tape and interpret it two or three different ways.”
While this discussion focuses on Florida, the just released third edition of More Guns, Less Crime provides a detailed analysis for all states from 1990 to July 1, 2008. In state after state, permit holders are extremely law-abiding. In Arizona, there were 99,370 active permits as of December 1, 2007. During 2007, 33 permits were revoked for any reason — a 0.03 percent rate. In Texas, there were 288,909 active permit holders. Of these, 160 were convicted of either a misdemeanor or a felony, a rate of 0.05 percent. That is about one-seventh the conviction rate in the general adult population, and the convictions among permit holders are for much less serious offenses.
I went to some other cases from the gun control groups after July 1, 2008. In two of the other five killings involving law-enforcement, it also appears as if the person who fired a gun didn’t have a concealed handgun permit. In one case, in Pennsylvania, Christina Korbe fired a shot killing a police officer when police raided her home. The police were serving an arrest warrant on her husband, and she didn’t know it was the police who were breaking into her home, and she was concerned about the safety of her two children, ages 4 and 10.
The Brady Campaign and the Violence Policy Center evaluate the benefits of concealed handgun laws based solely on the claimed costs — they don’t compare the cases where defensive uses occurred to the bad things that happen, but only count what they claim are the bad cases. They ignore lots of amazing defensive gun use cases. But even more bizarrely, they count legitimate self-defense cases as bad events even when no charges are filed or the permit holder is later exonerated.






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Thanks Mr Lott, I caught a snippet of a story last evening about the completion of CIFTA and it looks like Obama is going to try to sign it within about a month or so….
Do you have any good updates on this?
"[T]he advantage of being armed [is one] which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation…the [other] governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." — James Madison, The Federalist, No. 46
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth keystone… the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable." — George Washington
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." — Thomas Jefferson
'Nuff said. Couldn't've said it better if I wanted to, anyway.
"Dear Britain: Lift the Ban on Michael Savage!"
Isn't those states that passed anti-gun laws has the highest crime rates than those who have pro-gun laws passed? I would think so.
Need we say more? http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag...
Successful implimentation of "progressivism/socialism/Marxism" neccessarily demands usuprtation of personal and unfettered gun rights. It's fundemental.
Hitler, Castro, Lenin/Stalin – they all knew this obvious building block of socilaism – an unarmed proletariate is docile and controllable. Ask the millions of Ukrainians starved to death by Stalin or the Jews and other "undesireables" killed by Hitler…oh ya we can't – PROGESSIVISM KILLED THEM. Not us Obama, not us – we won't go quietly to the socialist gallows -we'll fight back.
Keep careful WATCH on ammo availibility under Obama's criminal regime. If progressive criminals in government CAN'T disarm us, they will TAKE AWAY our ammo. Watch these BASTARDS very, very closely…
One niggle: it's not "pro-gun" … it's "pro-self-defense." Guns are just tools. I'm no more pro-gun than I am pro-saw or pro-food processor. I am very much an advocate of the weak being able to repel the aggression of the strong, however. Of course, if the weak can do that, their not so weak, and the strong aren't so strong. That's sort of the point.
It is very true that states and localities with liberal (in the good sense) civil rights laws pertaining to the carry of a firearm, violent crimes are relatively low. It is especially telling when a carry law passes in a given state, to cries of "blood in the streets" and "wild west" from the Brady Bunch and their ilk, and violent crimes rates drop, because this is an opportunity for an apples to apples comparison.
People with concealed carry permits may pose a danger……… but it's criminals and violent agressors who are endangered.
Facts. We don't need no stinkin facts.
How many people have ever been killed by a gun? very few. Bullets, now that's different.
I hope i didn't just give something away there.
Bitter clinger to the bitter end.
Reloading is fun, and a valuable skill to have. I like my Hornady press. Obtaining brass and bullets is not hard. Primers, however, are another story.
This is why, last year, I invested heavily in equipment and supplies to ensure that I had reloading capacity for at least 500 rounds loaded plus another 500 to reload, for each caliber that we use here
God made men, Sam Colt made 'em equal.
Two words
Molon Labe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAFt25SfVGQ
People….people….people…. Never ever lose sight of the irrefutable truth about the gun control advocates REAL objective. Listen not to the spin but keep focused that the REAL GOAL is revocation of the SECOND AMENDMENT which incorporates the citizenry's right to bear arms. This was recently upheld by the Supreme Court, however, in true Lib/Marxist action they will NEVER give up this effort. Remember…..four of the Justices voted to REMOVE your rights to bear arms.
America needs the Second Amendment to PROTECT the First Amendment ! If you lose your right to bear arms you LOSE YOUR LIBERTY AND FREEDOM !
My "favorite" anti-self protection rant is that if people have guns it will make the criminals more violent.
Chicago is still fighting to maintain it's draconian firearms ban, and as we all know, it's rate of violent, gun related crime is horrifying. (Not to mention that these crimes are committed using ILLEGALLY purchased and owned firearms, not legally owned and registered ones)
All you have to look at is Chicago with their strict gun laws!!!
As far as I can tell the primer situation has eased. Full shelves in the local shop, full shelves at the internet shops I go to.
When people have guns, it makes criminals more scared.
The progressives don't want those poor, downtrodden, societally opressed criminals needlessly frightened, let alone put out of work – they count towards those 'saved or created' jobs, you know
That should read: Needs the second to protect the rest of the constitution. First, third, eighth…
I concure
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.-Thomas Jefferson
Thank God and the Founding Fathers, I can carry concealed 365 days a year to defend myself and my family.
Remember this: When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
Remember Virginia Tech? Virginia Tech proudly advertised it was a "Gun Free" campus. Then one day a killer leisurely walked around campus and murdered 32 students and teachers.
I am shocked! Shocked! He broke the law and brought guns on campus. Yup, he sure did.
Now, had that been a right-to-carry campus, the gunman would have probably looked like a piece of Swiss cheese after the first few shots. Instead, he knew his unarmed victims would be helpless as he strolled around and killed them while they begged for their lives.
Liberal/Conservative Gun Control… Good Answer!…
http://usataxpayer.org/?0054668560
If You Have any Doubt About the Results of Gun Control…
http://usataxpayer.org/?0079012351
Blaming guns for murder is like blaming spoons for Rosie O'Donnell being fat.
to all you Patriots that answered that question; thank you.
You are the vangard that prevents tyranny. I know very little about firearms but that's "fixin' to change" as we say here in Texas. I've fired weapons on various occassions, but I've never owned a weapon. Like I said – "fixin' to change".
Someone else provided this quote in another thread but I felt it had to be repeated.
"Guns kill people just like pencils misspell words."
After living in Illinois for years before moving to Utah, I can honestly say I feel much safer in Utah than I did in Cook county where they were (sarc) "gun free".
More interesting to note is that an unarmed society is more easily controlled by a radical government.
'saved or created jobs', and I thought the progresses just wanted to protect criminal's civil rights to practice their vocation.
lee precision's turret press is very good for reloading – auto indexing, auto advance, interchangeable turrets so once the dies are set and adjusted they don't need adjusted again – I can crank out 8 to 10 pistol rounds perminute with it, without rushing. If you're going to load ammo, it's something to look at
Yes.. You are correct… they should have been included….
The left has been trying this for years..The founders knew that if the citizens were armed and when the government got out of control that they would think twice before taking total control…..The left wants and loves total government control to force their beliefs down your throat….If someone wanted to kill someone else they would do it with a knife ,car,rock,club, etc..Guns do not kill people do….A gun will sit there and do nothing until it rusts away…It takes a human to pick it up and use it in a crime..like it or not lefties people commit crime and kill….
The "ends" justify the "means" Damn the 2nd Amendment, so says the left. They'll make it up, wrap it in a nice little box and service it up to the unwary. They have been using this tactic for years. They have been playing on the emotional side of this argument and unfortunately they have been incrementally winning the battles.
Some time ago I drew a weapon when my wife and I were threatened. They withdrew, rather hastily, I might add. If people wish to arm themselves with facts proffered by experts on the dangers of concealed weapons, please feel free. I'll be armed, thank you.
"Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of the stated intent"!
Jim Quinn—The War Room
"There is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered by criminals or madmen."
[Bowers v. DeVito, 686 F.2d 616, at 618 (7th Cir. 1982)]
When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.
When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.
When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.
Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all.
Actually its the only way it can be controlled. Take the guns and starve the people.
She's forced to use a spoon cause she'll eat her fingers too!
Sad thing about the campus situation, had there been a right-to-carry campus law and the students would've taken the murderer out, there would've been outcries from the libs/progs/socis/left about how such a terrible death it was for that poor murderer and killing him deprived society an opportunity to "help" this poor murderer come to grips with his inner monster. The students would've been raked over the coals.
Very enlightening! Thanks!
I saw a bumper sticker two days ago here in Arizona. It read: Gun control means using BOTH hands. Love it. I believe our governor just signed into a law that says any adult, not a felon, can carry a gun without a permit. Illegals aren't the only ones leaving.
Chicago is the most segregated major city in the US. It's also one of the most corrupt.
Chicago and Cook County have been completely controlled by Democrats for the last 5+ decades.
Not a coincidence. Corruption and oppression are the inevitable results of Democrat control.
Do gun-banning laws fight crime? Four words: Cal i forn ia.
I belong to PETOP (People for the Ethical Treatment of Pencils).
I belong to PETOS (People for the Ethical Treatment of Spoons)
Woman 2, Thugs 0 in Tulsa home invasion. She tricked the crooks into giving her the purse with the concealed gun back. One dead, the other in critical condition and charged with murder. Victim protected under OK law!!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag...
"People walking the streets armed with guns must be dangerous, right? The Brady Campaign and the Violence Policy Center keep claiming that even those individuals who have legally obtained permits to carry concealed handguns are extremely dangerous (Courtesy of John R. Lott. Jr.)
When the Thugs come out brandishing their weapons The Brady Campaign and Violence Policy Center all hide behind those who have weapons and/or call Law Enforcement who also have weapons……..What are we missing?
Perhaps proper education in the respect for and use of a hand gun actually fosters increased responsibility in the individual. Use of a hand gun is something that is not undertaken lightly, if one knows the consequences.
Wait a minute there! How could a guy bring a gun on a gun free campus? It's a gun free campus!!
How can you have any pudding if you bring a gun on a gun free campus??!!!
"When guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns." – Edward Abbey
I've posted this before . . . but check out this humorous cartoon on "The New Obama Approved Military Rifle" at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/the-...
Hard left and/or progressives indulge themselves in something economists call "stylized facts." These are assumptions made that do not have to be true. All they have to do when inserted into an economic construct is to guarantee a predicted outcome.
The stylized facts gun control Nazis throw around have been with us for so long, starting with the neutering of childrens playthings – "No Red Ryder BB guns for you, kid! You'll shoot your eye out!" – and the demonization of the NRA and "those who cling with antipathy to their guns and religion," has been so successful that otherwise seemingly sensible people, neighbors who seem to live normal lives, recoil in horror if even the image of a firearm emerges, not to mention squirt guns and cap pistols.
The set of stylized facts about firearms we now live with must be shown for what they are – falsehoods.
This form of deceit seems to have crept into just about every arena of public policy, from climate to public safety to medicine.
Let's start calling the gun control nuts' statements what they really are: "Lies."
"An armed society is a polite society", Robert A. Heinlein
I don't trust the Govt. in Washington to protect and defend legal US citizens. We must protect ourselves. We see the families in ARIZONA and TEXAS on the border that have their own law officers targeted by the criminals invading their lands.
Some areas are so dangerous with criminal trespassers that legal US citizens are advised by the local law to carry guns anytime they are out on their property. The rural areas along the border do not have enough local law officers to cover the vast open area in their jurisdiction.
Maybe the Pres and his family could take a camping vacation in this region without a gun. Families live there every day of the year
THE LEGAL CITIZENS THAT LIVE THERE ARE MAINLY OF HISPANIC DECENT , AS ARE THE LAW OFFICERS. I would not label them racists.
When some Libtard find out I am a gun owner and concealed carrier, they always ask me if I've ever had to use it ? I say "no, not yet…"…."than why carry it?."…
To which I reply…"I also keep my fire extinguisher handy in the kitchen and the truck, just in case". and "hope I never need it.."
I usually see a small light go on…Dim but there.
This issue is the biggest "no brainer" in the history of the Republic,
the 2nd Amendment insures/assures the impliamentation of all the others, without it we cannot be a truly free people..as defense of ones self is a basic natural right.
If you don't like guns, don't buy one. But rest assured "We the People" will not give ours up…
Apologies. What I meant was, "graphite-based writing instrument".
That gun had a flash eliminator, collapsable stock and bayonet lug.
Far too effective for socialists.
In 1996 the UKs politcal elite said that a handgun ban would reduce armed crime.
When it didn't they said a ban on air cartridge guns would reduce armed crime.
When it didn't they said a ban on replicas would reduce armed crime.
When it didn't they tried to ban deactivated guns, but failed because the murder being used as their excuse wasn't committed with a reactivated gun after all.
Now that armed crime is way above the 1996 level they don't want to talk about it. I'll bet Handgun Control Inc won't want to either. Someone ask them and find out.
An openly armed citizenry is a polite society. Just like nuclear armament on the international scale makes a good case for diplomatic solutions to problems, so does the likelihood of mutually assured personal destruction make for sober thinking and rational solutions to conflicts of interest.
It's a progressive utopian myth that if you get rid of guns crimes will go down. John Lott has clearly shown that in his books which are the most exhaustive study on the subject.
Daley in Chicago banned guns and was ready to call in the national guard because they can't keep control their own criminals and won't let private citizens defend themselves.
There is a reason leftists continue to rely on hypothetical arguments – statistics are not on their side (that seems to be the story of their lives).
One could supply them with an encyclopedia of peer reviewed statistical facts, and the common leftist will still simply dismiss it…further proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.
Do you really think that people willing to entertain the idea of falsely accusing random opponents of racism without any evidence care about the truth? That's the true Marxist meaning of "politically correct" (that term was originally used seriously by campus leftists). It means that you view truth and falsehood through a political lens, not a factual one and things are "correct" or "incorrect" based on their political utility. Thus saying that guns reduce crime is "incorrect" to the left and saying that guns are dangerous and cause crime is "correct" to the left, regardless of the facts because politics trump truth.
The only people a law banning firearms would apply to are the citizens anyway. A criminal, by definition, would ignore the law and carry the firearm anyway. These types of laws are only designed to keep the criminals safe.
Don't forget, it would have to be ratified by 2/3rd of the Senate to actually be binding. That is not going to happen.
Thought I might have been the only person who had ever heard that. I really do appreciate "Quinns Laws" as they are spot on. Not to mention he has the lovely gun toting radio Rose by his side.
Very well said.
That's the only type of weapon suitable for BO and his trolls.
Now that is where BO should take his next vacation. Imagine the exercise he would get dodging the bad guys.
With the likes of Snowe, Collins, McCain and Graham who knows what is possible, they are far too politically cowardly to trust anymore, they HAVE been bought.
You wouldn't, no you couldn't, be refering to the criminals in goverment would you? Nah, they are only there to serve the best interests of the American people. /Sarcasm.
year's ago when Minnesota was debating a conceal carry law which eventually was passed they were saying how would you like to go to a Twins game in the Metrodome and have a drunk fan fire their gun. I'm just curious in all of those states like Texas and Florida how many killings take place during their college football games let alone their pro games. The fact that you can't point to the piles of corpses show how stupid an argument like this is.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
Lets remember that the Fort Hood situation had something like thirteen deaths because they restricted your ability to have a gun on a military base.
But your point is obvious. The criminal will bring a gun to a spot where a gun carrier can't use their gun.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
While laying in bed this morning mustering the strength to get-up, my thoughts transitioned "tangentially", thanks Barack for that neat word, to what if the aforementioned Barack actually achieved the unthinkable, a second term. What that means to me is more leftist supreme court justices and the end of the Second Amendment, done/gone— and the confiscation of almost all guns, with only your neighborhood thug being sanctioned to carry. I don't possess a firearm, although I'm going to bed wishing I did…
I carry a gun because a policeman is too heavy
AUSTRALIA:
The Results Are In
The following is a synopsis of an interview conducted by Ginny Simone with Keith Tidswell of Australia's Sporting Shooters Association. The entire interview is available as "Surprise, Surprise" in the "Archive News" section of:
http://www.nralive.com/
One year after gun-owners were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, including semi-automatic .22 rifles and shotguns, a program costing the government over 500 million dollars, the results are in…
A dramatic increase in criminal activity has been experienced. Gun control advocates respond "Just wait… we'll be safer… you'll see…".
OBSERVABLE FACT, AFTER 12 MONTHS OF DATA:
* Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2%
* Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6%
* Australia-wide, armed-robberies are up 44% (yes, FORTY-FOUR PERCENT)
* In the state of Victoria, homicides-with-firearms are up 300%
* Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in homicides-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months)
* Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in armed-robbery-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months)
* There has been a dramatic increase in breakins-and-assaults-of- the-elderly
* At the time of the ban, the Prime Minister said "self-defense is not a reason for owning a firearm"
* From 1910 to present, homicides in Australia had averaged about 1.8-per-100,000 or lower, a safe society by any standard.
* The ban has destroyed Australia's standings in some international sport shooting competitions
* The membership of the Australian Sports Shooting Association has risen to 112,000, a 200% increase, in response to the ban and as an attempt to organize against further controls, which are expected.
* Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns". Their response has been to "wait longer".
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We have 2nd Amendment Rights for a reason. Don't be misled or believe the anti-gun lobby. They really want to disarm us, then fascism.
Good point, but no, I was referring to those criminals that use firearms to commit their crimes, not the criminals that use their position in congress. Thanks for the thought though.
Do you really believe that nobama would go anywhere without his "armed" Secret Service agants? He wouldn't notice any problems at all.
About time to think about getting one.
Not to mention the millions of times that gun owners protect themselves without firing a shot. I personally know at least three people who protected themselves from robbers just by showing their handguns.
My brother recently held a "class" in his home (with a certified instructor) for 17 neighbors, so that each could meet the requirements for a concealed-weapon permit. My brother did his job, now I need to get busy.
'Guns don't kill People..Socialist/Progressives do…..by the millions!'
Rolly
That's the setup I use. Good fun, and a handy result for your effoert.
This past week, I keep hearing news stories in the New Orleans area where there is a big effort to get "Guns off the street." Not, "Illegal guns off the street,", just "guns off the street".
Every time I hear this blasted on the radio I get angrier and angrier.
Two years ago I would have heard it and assumed that they mean the guns the criminals use. Now I realize that it is part of the Progressive/Marxist BS that they shove down our throats and trick us with. Guns are bad, guns are bad, etc.
Gun Control communists/progressives/marxists have become masters of their propaganda craft.
I am so glad that I finally get it.
I am going to call the news stations and insist that they change their rhetoric. (Of course, since they are a bunch of obvious progressives, I don't think I will get much action.)
Note: Thank you John Lott for your energy, dedication and efforts on the behalf of the Second Amendment, gun owners and American Citizens in general.
Amen!
The truth in Lott's research is that '99% of ALL criminals are cowards and are afraid to be hurt while committing a crime.' When they know their victims are unarmed they become emboldened but when there is the possibility of their victims being armed they find another less dangerous target. It's that simple!! I will not become a citizen/sheep…..ever!
Rolly
I was just getting ready to ask for recommendations on reloaders..thanks!
Brilliant come back- may I borrow it? I'm forever getting asked that very question <eye roll>
You'll be smart, safe, and most importantly- alive!
Now that should make for a wonderful sign, shirt, etc- love it.
Knowledge *is* power. Safety, by that inference, is freedom.
This subject is so very near and dear to me.
But, one must admit- Obumbles *is* good at dodging…things like facts, laws, common sense…
awww…c'mon, of *course* criminals would obey that law…just like foreign nationals obey our borders…oh, wait…/s
As a physician, I respect life. I have a concealed carry permit and would have no problem shooting to kill if either my family or I were in danger from some low-life scum. While the police may be well meaning, they are an easy 10 minutes away. I prefer not to be dependent on the police and their civilian "rules of engagement" when it comes to those I love.
You may…I probably heard it somewhere, and have been stealing it all these years…..Very little is origional, at this point in time…
I'm assuming from your screen name you are a Wather fan? Polizeipistole Kriminellmodell ..If I remember correctly. Fine German weapon made really famous by some Brit spy….HeHe..
D.C. and Chicago have banned guns for years, but, they managed to have a lot of people killed with guns. Criminals dont care about the laws, that's why they break them.. You have the right to protect yourself…
You would be correct
I'm rather fond of my .380, perfect fit in my hand, nice weight, other than the slide is a bit tight. And best of all, it was a mother's day gift LOL
So…HALO- high altitude, low opening…or the game?
You got it… HiAltLoOpen….Don't know the game…
My wife carries in her purse a very small black Beretta .22 (short), great chick gun..
hides in the palm of her hand…great for that occasion when one must traverse a parking structure at night…alone..
Goes into effect on Thursday, 29 July 2010, as does SB1070. Serria Hotel.
They have a great show. Used to wake up to them every morning until they moved the time slot. I learned alot from Quinn.
Blame spoons? I blame spoons AND Bush!!
LOL…sorry about the game reference, my son is 20, and HALO is one of his favorite video games- but I was pretty sure your name was more in tune with jumping from perfectly good airplanes
Parking garages….yeah, not one of my most favored locations, if I don't have my gun, I have husband or son with me…or my dog. All of which keep me feeling pretty safe.
The problem comes when people desire to DISARM themselves – and the rest of us, too.
Not sure what radio station you listened to them on, but they are on the same time of day as usual. I can listen to them on my local am station, and not sure, but they use to be on xm 165.
Did Hinckley have a concealed carry permit when he shot Reagan? God, I despise Sarah Brady and the Brady Campaign.
I own handguns, but can't get a CC permit in California. Where am I more likely to need to defend myself? In a road-rage incident or in my 20th-floor doorman condo? Where is my wife more likely to need to defend herself? In a parking lot on her way to her SUV or in our condo?
Sort of off-topic, but before the Armenian Genocide began in earnest, the Turks first confiscated firearms from every Armenian home. Their confiscation tactics were so brutal (torture), that Armenians paid outrageous sums to buy antiquated firearms from their Turkish neighbors just so they would have something to surrender when the troops came knocking.
I've always HATED it when politicians…especially including Republicans – talked about upholding the rights of hunters and sportsmen. That's not what the 2nd Amendment is about. The battles at Lexington and Concord were a race by the Minutemen to keep the Redcoats from seizing their armories. Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Castro and the Turks who committed the Armenian Genocide knew what gun control was really about. So does Obama. And Elena Kagan.
Look at what has happened since Britain has banned handguns. Their violent-crime rate has skyrocketed, far surpassing that in the US. The prevelant mode of crime in Britain now is home invasion by criminals armed with knives and blunt instruments. Same in Australia.
Yeah, banning concealed handguns and automatic weapons is clearly a play by Big Brother to disarm the citizenry. Or maybe…it's common sense. Why would you want to stuff a gun in your pants while walking down the street? One commenter earlier said that states with loose gun laws don't see violence at sporting events. When was the last time you heard of someone gunning down a maniac in the streets thanks to their trusty semi tucked neatly in their pocket?
re: Virginia Tech:
To say that allowing guns on college campuses would somehow make them safer is beyond idiotic. Maybe if Virginia had laws that required backround checks the tradgedy would have been prevented in the first place. But I guess the founders wanted any Tom, Dick, or mental patient to have access to a vast array of semi-automatic handguns and armor-piercing bullets.
Great reporting… Awesome article… MORE MORE
Hard Left progressive liberal marxist socialist blah blah blah blah….
Anybody remember that James Brady was a Conservative and a Republican?
"I support the Brady Bill and I urge the Congress to enact it without further delay." — President Ronald Reagan March 28th, 1991
"Guns are an abomination" — President Richard Nixon
The Mulford Act of 1967 of California — Governor Ronald Reagan
"The Nation's strictest gun controls" singed into law in New York on August 10th, 2000 by Republican Governor George Pataki
Import of assault rifles banned in 1989 by Republican President George HW Bush
Has anybody ever bothered to read the Patriot Act? National database of all registered gun owners?
Facts? Who needs facts? I'd rather jump through hoops like a good little doggy.
In fact…
http://www.gun-nuttery.com/rtc.php
So why then are you people so paranoid on demand for an issue you have no reason to be paranoid about? I've owned guns for over 20 years and nobody has ever tried to take them away form me. In fact under Obama, the exact opposite of any gun control:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti...
Grow up.
I've got a news flash for you. There are already people walking the streets with guns……….they're called criminals. It would be nice if we could level the playing field just a bit. I know the cops ALWAYS get there in time but I'd like just a little more insurance. Something like my Glock .45.
Brady didn't give two squats about gun control until he got shot. And gun control would have done NOTHING to keep him from getting shot. What are we supposed to do when confronted by a violent criminal with a gun, show him a piece of paper that says he's not supposed to be carrying it and then hope that his conscience kicks in and he lays down his arms in dishonor???? Yeah, riiiiiight. Man, liberals live in their own little world.
Just in case it hasn't occured to you…Millions and millions of people own guns. If they intended to use them in a crime, no law can STOP them. They can walk into their home, load the gun and carry it, concealed carry law or not. Who's going to stop them, the magical concealed carry gun law fairy.
Laws aren't to predict the future and stop crime. They are meant to punish those who have agreed to the terms of breaking them.
i know the feeling. a few years ago my wife was driving our truck and was being aggressively tailgated. as soon as she could move over to the right lane (maybe 5 seconds?) she did and then gave the jerk nothing more than an annoyed look as he went by- no one finger salute, didn't yell 'nice driving, a$$hole!"- just a quick sideways glance that meant- 'the road's all yours now, jerkoff- go annoy the next person…"
he hit the brakes, started making threatening gestures, crowding into our lane, etc., but immediately lost all interest in pressing this course of action when i held up my wife's baby Glock where he could see it. obviously he was spoiling for a fight with somebody, but not one he would almost certainly lose…
why would he call the national guard? won't they just bring more guns? we all KNOW that more guns just means more trouble…
or is the guard going to be unarmed? this just makes no sense to me. hmmm………
name an issue. what the Left 'feels' & 'believes' will always trump what the Right 'knows' & can 'prove'.
one of my favorite hobbies is sitting in front of schools, banks, & various government buildings watching scum bent on violence walk up, see the cute little 'no handguns' sticker on the door and then slink away with a sheepish look on their faces…
THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. That right is not to be impeded by our government. It is a right granted and recognized by our founding fathers to ALL Americans, even in Chicago. True statistics prove that more guns = less crimes, but the left is always good at manipulating data and producing lies to back up their arguments. It is frustrating to try to show a liberal where they are wrong, because they have a separate, but incorrect, set of unsupported "facts" that they insist are true. When they hold onto manufactured data it is no use to argue…They think what they want and even the truth isn't enough to make them see the light. Protect your rights aggressively, before the Democrats and progressives remove them all.
I'm confused on your defensiveness here. Where in this article did he even mention Obama, liberal socialists, or anything related to either party? He's talking about anti-gun advocacy groups and the way they are bending the truth.
Get over yourself. Did you even read the article?
Besides, yes Republicans have enacted Gun control laws along with Democrats. But which side generally pushes for complete gun bans? Hmm? Lets be honest on which side is generally anti-gun. Also your going to have a hard time arguing about what Republicans did here. You don't notice that conservatives are trying to overhaul the Republican party lately?
The 2nd Amendment says that people have a right to bear arms and form state militias (aka the National Guard). Nowhere does it say that the government can't RESTRICT what kind of arms can be bought and sold, or force a waiting period and registration. BUT SHOUTING LINES FROM THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS MUCH EASIER FOR THE SIMPLE-MINDED SO IT IS NATURALLY WHAT THE PARANOID, GUN-TOTING RIGHT-WING EXTEMISTS RESORT TO.
They are on a radio station in Akron Ohio that I could get but has static sometimes. About 70 miles from me. I would rather hear the War Room with static then the local blather we have. They moved them from 6am to 9am. I am ay work by then generating wealth for the slackers, bummer.
I have sirius now so I listen to Patriot radio. Mike Church is the morning dude.
It really didn't mention in the article but read all the comments from all the lemmings blaming Liberals, progressives, socialists marxist gingerbread men aliens, blah blah blah. Actually, the article was quite good and informative.
You're included with the whole "which side pushes for compete bans" because you are probably somebody who believes Liberals don't own guns and Blue states have no hunting seasons and/or hunting areas. All I know is I'm an American Liberal and damn proud of it and I've owned guns for over 20 years and the only a$$holes who ever tried and succeeded at restricting my access and use of them was Republicans. Don't need an article to tell me that.
Great website for quotes and thoughts of our Founding Fathers on the Second Amendment…check it out!
http://bit.ly/dbMQUb
The station out of Akron is 640 whlo. That was the station that I listened to them on. Now I have to stream it on the net from their home station 104.7 out of Pittsburgh.
Small world,
I do listen when I get a chance. I listen to Mark Livine on 640 at night while tinkering outside.
There's one piece the Brady gang never seems to mention. As a former LEO, still remember our training officer explaining it.
The Supreme Court recognizes that police departments & law enforcement officers have two responsibilities; To arrest law breakers and to gather evidence to aid in the prosecution of law breakers.
The Supreme Court has also ruled that police cannot be sued or prosecuted for failing to perform either task. We also cannot be sued or prosecuted for failing to prevent a crime, protect someone or stop a crime in process.
If you're expecting the police to keep you alive and uninjured, you're going to be sadly disappointed.
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