The UN and Obama Versus Gun Owners
by John LottGun owners might not feel besieged right now, but they should be very concerned. Last week the Obama administration announced its support for the UN Small Arms Treaty. This treaty poses real risks for freedom and safety in the United States as well as the rest of the world.

According to the U.N., guns used in armed conflicts cause 300,000 deaths worldwide every year. Their proposed solution is a simple one. Keep rebels from getting guns by requiring that countries “prevent, combat and eradicate” what those countries define as “the illicit trade in small arms.”
The UN’s solution isn’t too surprising when one looks at the long list of notorious totalitarian regimes, such as Syria, Cuba, Rwanda, Vietnam, Zimbabwe, and Sierra Leone, which support these “reforms.” But not all insurgencies are “bad.” To ban providing guns to rebels in totalitarian countries is like arguing that there is never anything such as a just war.
In hindsight, during World War II, should the French or Norwegian resistance movements simply have given up? Surely this would have minimized causalities. But that is hardly a one-time event. What about Afghanis in their fight against the Soviet Union or Nicaraguan rebels fighting communist dictators during the 1980s? Was it wrong to help out? What about totalitarian governments that massacre their citizens? Don’t they have a right to protect themselves?
Many countries already ban private gun ownership. Rwanda and Sierra Leone are two notable examples. Yet, with more than a million people hacked to death over the last decade-and-a-half, were their citizens better off without guns?
Political scientist Rudy Rummel estimates that 262 million people were murdered by their own government during the last century -– that is 2.6 million per year. This includes genocide, the murder of people for political reasons, and mass murder. Even if all 300,000 deaths from armed conflicts can be blamed on the small arms trade, an obviously false claim, people have much more to worry about from their governments. Adding the U.N.’s estimated deaths from gun suicides, homicides, and accidents still provides a number that is only a ninth as large.
Second, the treaty is a backdoor way to get more gun control laws adopted in the US. “After the treaty is approved and it comes into force, you will find out that it has this implication or that implication and it requires the Congress to adopt some measure that restricts ownership of firearms,” Former UN Ambassador John Bolton warns. “The [Obama] administration knows it cannot obtain this kind of legislation purely in a domestic context. … They will use an international agreement as an excuse to get domestically what they couldn’t otherwise.”
In addition, to keep track of guns, licensing and registration will be pushed, despite their complete failure to trace crime guns in the places in the US that have tried it or Canada. One also just needs to look no further than how Mexican President Felipe Calderon has blamed his country’s crime problems on the sun setting of the US “assault weapons” ban. Somehow semi-automatic guns, essentially deer hunting rifles that have a cosmetic outside that look like AK-47s or other similar weapons, are being painted as military weapons. The same claims now being made for Mexico will be made even more forcefully under the UN treaty.
Third, gun bans also produce another problem: increased murder rates. UN gun control advocates don’t want to acknowledge that everyplace in the world that we have crime data for has seen that gun bans result in higher murder rates. Americans have seen the increase in murder rates in DC and Chicago after their bans, and the sudden 25 percent drop in DC’s murder rates last year after their ban was removed. But as recent research shows, gun bans have consistently lead to higher murder rates around the world. Even island nations, who can’t blame some neighbors for their supply of guns, have seen increases in violent crime rates.
The Small Arms Treaty is just a back door way for the Obama administration trying to force through gun control regulations. With the huge standing ovation that House and Senate Democrats recently gave Mexican President Calderon for his advocacy of a new so-called “Assault Weapons Ban,” Americans who care about self-defense have been put on notice. The threats to gun ownership are as real as ever.






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Oh, this will not go over well with much of the American population. Many of us agree with Ted Nugent, and believe that the Second Amendment IS our "permit".
They can have my guns after they have all my bullets.
Keep pushing Washington, it’ll be your political asses come November.
obama wants to be a half-term president.
The hole this administration is digging for itself is truely wonderful. America rejoice. There is no way Obama will be running for a second term. He is beyond lame duck status.
This is soros' baby, and the group of slugs he travels with – this is their wet dream and I doubt they will stop pushing, and pushing and pushing –
Numbers and facts just don't mean jack sh** to these fruits that dream of a World Government, I swear they are honestly brain damaged.
Humorous cartoon on the new Obama approved military rifle at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/the-... If you haven't seen this yet it could make you smile!
They can pass whatever regulations they want, but I will never, ever give up the guns I own.
the UN Small Arms Treaty is an end run around the second amendment…
They won't try anything now. They might get 'hurt' in the process. But given the 'right crisis' and believe us, they are a comin'- then the hammer will be put down. You can't have a totalitarian system as long as you have an armed, property owning middle class. Well, the property is being taken away (Fannie and Freddie now control 90% of the home mortgages), the debasing of the currency is reducing the standards-
Then you go after the guns. Pure Marxist playbook, folks…
Resist..
Ok, can we withdraw from the UN now and save a boatload of money? The UN is the proverbial "tits on a bull." Completely worthless and downright dangerous if you try to use them.
but as stated, guns don't kill, people do. they talked about rwanda, with the machete killings, once those are outlawed, in chicago what about the clip of kids with 2 x 4's? are we also going to outlaw those? you don't need a gun to kill, a gun might make it easier, but it also makes self defense easier as well. there are lotsof things one can use to kill someone, we can't possibly ban everything possible that can kill. going after guns does not work, how about instead we go after governments that are not free? free people only need guns for hunting, and self defense, people who seek freedom use guns to get freedom.
Back to the press for me. Don't have enough in stock yet.
From my cold dead hands. And I will take some criminals with me.
uggh, Just joined the NRA two weeks ago, but still need to get my gun before it becomes impossible to do so.
Save some reloads for me……
The U.N. like most corrupt statist organizations LOVES….unarmed peasants.
In they eyes of the U.N. the less able you are to defend yourself the better.
The less economically independent you are the better.
Needy and defenseless …that's how they like their people.
Oh yeah…shut up and pay your taxes.
No.
as with all leftist they end up miscalculating their advesary. Who pray-tell would they use to inforce such a rule? The US Military, remember this military is all volunteer, they in the words of Janet Napoletano pose a threat when they become veterans. Are they counting on the UN monitors to inforce it? Good luck with that. When Admiral Yamamoto was asked about invading America his reply was no way, every American would be hiding behind every blade of grass with a gun. The leftists better remember some salient facts, They comprise only 20+% of the population, and they don't believe in gun ownership. So how are they going to handle the other 70+% of the populace who do own guns and will not give them up.
Well, it could poke someone's eye out….
"Molon Labe…."
–Leonidas' response when a Persian emmisary demanded the Spartans drop their spears.
Good luck getting the Senate to ratify it. Probably wouldn't get more than 35 votes.
I especially agree with DarkWolfe and Wildcat84 on their comments above.
Proud Lifetime member of the NRA
Hmmm… the Second Amendment IS part of the Constitution… the same Con that Obama and Congress swear to defend.
So, if Obama signs a treaty that is a direct contradiction to the Constitution, and Congress apporves it, are they then guilty of Treason? as they are willfully trying to undermine the Constitution? Thus… a high crime, or misdemeanor? Thus imeachable?
Peteee taxes are killing me……………………………………………….Can we do away with them?…8>)
Of course the Fruits of Islam will get an exemption.
If the U.N. wants to take my guns, let those blue helmet twerps come here and try to take them.
It's a scenario I've sometimes wondered about- we refuse to give up our guns by taking them to the local police station or whatever to comply with some new UN gun ban, then one day the inevitable knock at the door….
I guess only time will tell the outcome of that situation, but something tells me it won't be pretty.
The interesting thing is, the local law enforcement I know is just as dead set against gun control as you or I. The President and Congress will have more opposition on their hands than they bargained for if they pass this damn law, er, sign this treaty. Hopefully the states will get involved too.
Best solution- vote the bastards out and get Conservatives back in power. End of problem.
Check this out:
http://www.gunbroker.com/
Check your State laws and find a FFL willing to do transfers for a reasonable fee and you too can have a fine collection. Welcome to the NRA (life member)
Obastard is finally right! He should be concerned about being 'shovel ready' himself.
Also join the Gun Owners of America. They are a no compromise organization. The NRA does too much compromising.
One would think so. But of course that doesn't matter to his highness BHO. At that point we the people will have to put our collective foot down, like he was an impudent, spoiled child. Just like with Pearl Harbor, this country is eventually going to wake up and get really, really pissed.
Half-Assed…CHECK
Half-Term…..PENDING
well, I don't think the can "convince" americans.Most,anyway.U.N. needs it's doors closed.
The free,human spirit loves it's freedom too much.And as my daughter says…" I am my childrens first line of defense."
There usually isn't time for a second.
Pull the plug on U.N. and shut down the decrepid building and org.
I was shocked at how run down that building looked when you stand in front of it.
Time WE got back to OUR wonderful constitution.Time WE fused it into the year 2010 A.D.
If anyone can do it, we can.
Imagine.
Hell Yeah!
Treaty or not, He/They cannot violate our 2nd Amendment right! Supreme Court can not put a treaty over the 2nd Amendment.
They cannot have 100% control over us until we are unarmed. An unarmed populace is a weak, powerless populace…
I don't own a gun, but I might just buy one to spite Obooby and the UN. Then they can pry it from my cold, dead hands…!
Lets ban the 'evil eye'…
Nice- thanks for the link.
Every day Obama inches us towards Global Governance. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
Obama and his ilk can support CIFTA all they want to, but here in a just a few weeks, SCOTUS is going to deliver a knockout blow. It will hit the gun grabbers right on the button.
The Second Amendment means what it says. No longer can the likes of Mayor Daley, Diane Feinstein or Obama himself ignore this reality. No more can obfuscation and clever lawyers (with their worssmithing) delay or deny us our inalienable rights to keep and bear arms without being held to account. Civil rights violations draw HUGE awards in court cases where violations are proven and the time is almost upon us where those kind of decisions apply to firearm rights violations.
It is time for America to choose. Either the Constitution matters – or- it doesn't.
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
….. Admiral Yamamoto, WWII Japanese Naval Admiral.
Let's hope it is still so or more so today.
Warning: Do not try this on US!
Tear it down and erect a huge American Heritage center on the spot- the first of its kind anywhere in the country. Nothing but the facts and true stories of our founding heroes and their faith and wisdom from floor to ceiling. Also fill it with stories of our brave soldiers down through the centuries…and the price they paid to gain and keep our freedoms.
Wow, that sounds wonderful doesn't it?
Just a minute, stand right there while I "unload"–wouldn't want any one to get hurt.
The left likes the U.N.
The right likes the U.N.
The U.S. should leave the U.N.
This is one area this admin any admin needs to stay away from. "…. shall not be infringed" I think I speak for most that the people of this country do not care what the UN wants, and will not oblige to rules created by the UN that go against the Constitution. To push this issue will result in something no one can imagine. People talk about the sleeping giant being awakened and will show itself in Nov. I disagree we will see something in Nov but nothing, nothing will compare to that if gun rights in the US are attacked through a bs treaty. I have stated several times for those concerned about BHO taking guns away. he made it absolutely clear he will not touch the 2nd… and he wont he will regulate it through Cass Sunstein and paralyze this country through treaties. I am sorry to tell you BHO but a treaty such as this will not be acknowledged by Americans and if i may be so bold our troops will not be on board with it either! If this is pushed BHO, the proggies, hardcore radicals and those seeking their global governance will find themselves in shit storm beyond biblical proportions.
Johnny- for once I'm in 100% agreement with you. Good call. (Well, I've agreed a few other times too lol- I'm just not sayin' which times).
Screw the UN. They can come disarm us … with what army?
I think you're right about the troops- they are fighting for the dream and the glory that is America- not the deceptive dreams and aspirations of the friggin UN and the Progs. If O and the UN power brokers keep pushing this crap against the people, there will indeed be a reckoning. I can't see our troops turning on us with aggression just because Obama orders it. Ain't happening.
If you have not already done so, please join the NRA. The more NRA membership swells, the more the folks in the District of Criminals will sit up and take notice. Numbers matter.
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W3CP, a proud NRA member.
Yes, as far as I'm concerned.
"The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men." — Samuel Adams
I like "fake tits on a zombie", but the effect is the same. I have always wondered what America would look like if we abolished th UN. Talk about utopia. No more money pit in NYC, no more cowing to them when there is a problem on the international scene, all countries could take care of their own dirty laundry without some nebulous "international panel" wagging a collective finger at them.
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I'd like to line them up, then ask them to smile and wait for the flash. (a claymore kind of looks like a camera)
The UN… The un and the Barry can not carry any weapons, if they choose. More left for those who want them.
Check out this link: http://www.bobtuley.com/gun_seizures.htm
This is what law-abiding citizens in New Orleans faced during Katrina. Lest we all forget, saying no one will take your guns away is one thing. Having someone knock on your door demanding them with a back-up of gun-drawn law enforcement types is another. Even the NOPD Chief said residents wouldn't have guns, and he went out and backed up his claim.
Whether or not anyone would be successful in demanding they honor your 2nd amendment right while guns are drawn on you by 4 or 5 enforcers during a time of crisis will be interesting to say the least. I figure my response will be: "No sir officer, I am completely unarmed and I hope you guys will be hanging around here protecting us from looters and criminals".
Remember folks, these people in these videos and those who didn't interview for the video expected to be able to protect their families and their property, but had their weapons confiscated instead. To this day, not all of the confiscated guns were returned to their rightful owners. And some of that was due to no receipts given and no proof of sale. You think that's not F'd up?
You might have it, but you will only be able to use it once, then the law is going to come by.
And no one give me any foolishness about how the police will not collect the guns from honest gun owners. If guns are illegal, you are no longer an honest gun owner. And the politicians who control the cops will just require that new hires be willing to seize guns.
The true "right wingers" live in the Democratic Party big tent. Think about the effects of what the different groups say they want.
"Their proposed solution is a simple one. Keep rebels from getting guns by requiring that countries “prevent, combat and eradicate” what those countries define as “the illicit trade in small arms.”"
Interesting. So if the UN is all about banning of the illicit trade of small arms why are they in an uproar when Israel tried to inspect ships run by IHH in Gaza? Aren't the Israelis doing what the UN wants and trying to stop small arms?
Or are we to believe Hamas can have small arms but Joe the plumber cannot have a pistol for home defense.
Opposition to the second amendment is one of the foundations of the leftist religion, and they will never stop nibbling at our Constitutional right. They will win when we stop resisting their meddling.
If you're a sportsman and not a member and supporter of the NRA, you're part of the problem. Join up while you still can.
A flat out prohibition would violate and be unconstitutional. It would be like the Senate purporting to ratify a treaty allowing slavery. However, what they may try to do is so regulate gun ownership that it is the same thing as prohibition – but they would argue constitutional. The McDonald case out of Chicago that is under submission in Supreme Court, if decided correctly, would put an end to this crap.
Hmmm are our elected officials really this stupid or are they just in on it. Give up our guns? As my son says "they can have all my ammunition, but I'm not giving up the gun" Hello and Duh who the hell is the U freakin N to tell us people capable of running our own lives that we have to give up our own guns. They want us to give up the guns so we can no longer defend ourselves. I know Scotland is all happy and good with that, but I've not been a socialist long enough to smile and give up something I hold precious. I cling to my guns and religion, it's all I have besides family. I have been receiving various emails that tell about Hilary Clinton agrees to small arms treaty. Have they asked the American People yet? I suggest we all show up in Washington showing off our gun collections. Lets see what they do then.
There was free membership to NRA a few weeks ago. Have not checked if this is still so.
Join.
Watch out for a tyrannical leaning government. Your rights protected by the Constitution are at risk, along with the Constitution itself.
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.as...
While most news media outlets and the American people are engulfed in news coverage regarding the economy, the 2010 elections, the Gulf oil spill and other stories, little if any news coverage exists about two major actions being considered by President Barack Obama and progressive lawmakers.
I've been getting this email now for weeks, its from Patriot Update(I've shortened it up): Dear fellow patriot,
With willing one-world accomplices in Washington, D.C., gun-grabbers around the globe believe they have it made. In fact, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton just announced the Obama Administration would be working hand in glove with the UN to pass a new “Small Arms Treaty.”
This is Congressman Paul Broun from Georgia. I’m writing you to make sure American citizens are prepared to oppose this assault on our national sovereignty and right to keep and bear arms.
If guns become "illegal" by a new UN Treaty, which is what we are talking about here, then no, I do not agree with what you are saying. The UN can never trump our Constitution, at least it shouldn't. Just because some current Administration signs it away on behalf of the UN, does not mean that we need to abide by it. It will then be time to fight for our rights, as our forefathers did.
But all of this is hypothetical at this point. We're not there -yet.
Obama should crawl back under the rock he came out from under.
My heart goes out to those poor misguided fools that would actually ATTEMPT to try and collect guns, ammo etc.
In their honor, I shall fire off a twenty-one "clip" salute.
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They already have here in Kalifornia starting in Jan. 2011.
Coming to the State you live in next.
AB 962 here ➥ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2346345/po...
Not Over.
Oh I forgot to mention. That link is an older one. "Arnie" signed the bill months ago.
It's the "law" now.
"Gird you loins" people.
The “Zombie Apocalypse” is nye.
UN=
UN-Godly
UN-American
UN-Necessary
UN-Wanted
Ditch the UN -yesterday!
Guns don't kill people, Politicians and their policy's kill people.
Freedom!!
you are looking at it all wrong. they need all of us working multiple jobs, how else can they spend all that money if nobody is foolish enough to supply it? and if we work so hard to keep ahead, more of us will pop off with grabbers, and strokes, the less thay need to pay out on healthcare and social security. if we work real hard, all those welfare queens will have a lifetime supply of bon bons, and those gubmit workers will each own three sailboats.
If guns kill people then do pencils misspell words?
He may run, but I pray for another Carter type of election.
Where is the Gipper when you really need him.
This is the danger sign that shows free Americans will need arms to stay free. Just one more step on Obama's path to dictatorship. Wake up, America.
I agree!
Withdraw from the UN and foreclose on the building in NY.
I have been considering the same thing.
Invade? Hell, they are already here.
I agree! Withdraw and Forclose.
I received an e-mail about this last week. When I googled the issue it was dated in October 2009. The Whitehouse is keeping the wraps on this big time. He is very worried about the rights of Illegals but what about this right,
A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
The Second Amendment provides US relief from an over-reaching government. Washington would do well to remember that.
He would actually need to travel to Indonesia to do that.
A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
DO NOT FORGET
Are there UN troops on US soil? If so, WHY?
………….remember, the UN was "bequeathed" to us by Alger Hess, Communist spy. ( A. Coulter, "Treason".)
I am happy to share with anyone here my never to be humble opinions with regards to handguns for defensive purposes.
Question authority. Ask me anything!
You know FUCK Obama. What does he just think he can sign a treaty and we all will just line up and give him our weapons. The man is truly an insane megalomaniac. I will fight to the death for this. Just hope if the Fascist in the White Crib tries we band together as a unit and defend ourselves.
Molon Labe
Obama would sign such a treaty, instantly, if one was written. Obama would then start issuing Executive Orders and instructions to such agencies as BATFE. "Regulations" have the effective force of law, so far as you and I, and the police, are concerned.
Never mind "unconstitutional". The Constitution is a "Living Document", "Just a piece of paper", you know. We might be able to turn things around eventually, but the Leftoids are teaching the children, and people who have any idea what their rights are, are getting older.
Let's see… stopping the" illicit traffic" in arms = arms go only to UN approved governments. Well isn't it great that soon those governments will have a monopoly on violence.
Q. What do you call a situation based on UN "blue hats" running around America grabbing guns.
A. A target rich environment.
frosty 2
Only if the pencil is wielded by a democrat. If it's being brandished by a gap-toothed teaba**er, it's because they're mouth-breathing knobs who are so cognitively limited, their interpretation of the Constitution and other law is confined to the plain meaning of the words used. Hell, they're probably hooked on phonics, too!
/sarc (of course)
Damn straight
I would strongly suggest it for two reasons. First, you may not have the opportunity in a year or two. Secondly, it would be very difficult knowing that you did not do everything in your power to protect your family – in the event that something terrible happens.
A friend of mine thinks that some frustrated, out of work, broke citizen may do something irrational that could stir up a lot of trouble. The way that things are going with the administration, media and others trying to divide the citizens and cause (what seems like class warfare) unrest — one never knows what the outcome with be, but surely it is better to be safe than sorry.
If you want to know what the UN would do, just ask yourself, "What would Hitler do?" and you will be like 99% accurate in determining what the UN actually does.
I own several guns, and if the cops where I live ever try anything like they did in NOLA during Katrina, you WILL see me on the news!
Q. What do you call a situation based on UN "blue hats" running around America grabbing guns.
A. A target rich environment.
Damn straight. i am really getting fed up with Obama, UN, Rev Wright, Bill Ayers. These old hippies think they caused chaos and destruction in the 60's? They keep pushing they will see what real Chaos is.
Agreed. I see where you're coming from now.
Gun control = using both hands
Resist..
Plan on it how about you? What are you prepared to do? Connery Untouchables…
Not sure about UN troops (INTERPOL is here), but check out the link below for more information on foreign police on U.S. soil. POTUS signed an executive order on 12/16/2009 allowing a foreign police presence. You will notice that they do not have to follow the same law enforcement rules as U.S. police officers.
http://www.examiner.com/x-2684-Law-Enforcement-Ex...
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