Maybe they should have held their press conference in a phone booth.

I really have no idea what you are talking about.

Was it one teabag group trying to out teabag the teabaggers convention? Or something like that?

I guess I'm not surprised only 4 showed up. Seems like a monumental waste of time.

I'd say you're wrong about that boss thing. It's pretty clear that those who shelled out the cash to attend, the organizers of the event, and the water-carrying bloggers there are the boss. Someone set the agenda, did they not? There's your boss. And allow me to the first to say that making Sarah Palin the face of the "movement" would be a huge mistake.

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We're doing great, even the unhappy ones. We need everybody. We are not fighting apathy here folks, so it's all good!

God Bless you all for wanting to go and partake. If you'd have asked me this time last year– that a convention would be happening I would have thought you were crazy — NO WAY! That people would be fighting over the ability to get in — NO WAY!

Congrats to us… Look at us.. we're now fighting to be part of something serious that we all feel strongly about.

But, please get over the ticket prices folks, it's a four day event for that price. Obama just spoke for one dinner at $30,400. per plate for a for profit fundraiser for the DNC. The cost to partake for a hotel convention room(s) and seminar space you're getting — that price is pretty cheap.

There will be many more and bigger to come. Palin will be telecast, the seminar are webcast!

God Bless you al. Let's hang together on this. Looks like enough interest to have regional conventions and a big national one. We're ready to grow already.
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In November every seat that comes up for election will be filled. Some of the races will come down to a clear cut choice between small government, constitutional candidates, and big government socialists. Some will not. I am a huge supporter of the Tea Party and of the concept of “We the people…” I believe that this is greatest country on Earth, and I believe in the vision of the Founding Fathers. However, I am also a pragmatist. While I believe that we should always support those candidates that represent these principles, I also know that in many races we will be faced with “a lesser of two evils” situation. I hope that as the Tea Party movement goes forward, and we look to change the course of our bloated, corrupt Federal Government, that we do not forget that November is only the BEGINNING. I'd much rather have a Lindsey Graham in office than a Nancy Pelosi. If we can get a Jim DeMint, Michelle Bauchman or Mike Pence, or a Marco Rubio then even better. continued…..

But one thing we can do starting in 2010, and going forward, is make it politically PAINFUL for those that refuse to listen to “We the people.” This in reality is where our greatest strength lies, and if you look at the defeat of Obamacare and the subsequent victory in Massachusetts we have already been heard!

Ok, not everyone is in sync. with everyone else! Jeez, are we going down with the ship or is this simply normal for a citizen group?

"Citizen group". I'm glad you made that reference. Because that's what's been bothering me about this convention. Aren't too many "citizens" there. But there are a whole lot of people who, despite what they would admit, are there for their own self-interests.

I hear what you are saying. As soon as I posted that I mused to myself that the people who paid for this convention are running this convention. That does not necessarily translate to the national level. Do you really think Sarah Palin is being made the face of the Tea Party? Thank you for your comment.

Uh Nope ther ain't. But that doesn't usually stop them from making crap up.

I wonder if the fact that the reporters outnumbered the protestors will be mentioned in the stories they write. Anyone have a guess?

Let me get this straight. They are going to get all wee wee'd up over a few not completely agreeing with this one event. Are they going to show ANY of the splits/fissures in the Democratically controlled House/Senate/Whitehouse? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Oooh…I like how you did that. Worked in some John Wayneisms, attributed insults to me that I did not make, and then signed off with a classy English salutation. As if to say, "I gotcha".

Add rude to old and grouchy and then address me with some civility.

The only story is media spaz-fits.

You can only move legislation with the consent of the governed. Consent denied! It’s vitally important for this complete movement to stay involved, through several election cycles to reverse the progressive cancer, that’s in politics, the press, and academia.

Quite frankly, there are only two parties in our two party system. WE, the People, and anyone who opposes US.

“Someone that agrees with you 80% of the time is an ally” …the great Ronald Reagan!

Look at Scott Brown, he's not perfect, but he comes across as an honest broker, and is a damn site better than the despicable socialist weakling Coakley.

Sarah Palin is ripping Obama and Biden new rectums right now on TV!

MSM "journalists". Knees. Fresh-brewed. Hot. Black tea. Cream on chin. Mmm. mmm, mmm!

I agree. If they do make Palin the face of the movement, I'm through. If people can't see this is the same old thing, different day, it's all over anyway.

The election of the messiah O'Bummer came about, I believe, because many people
interjected their own idea of what hope and change was. In talking to many people I personally
know or have met, it seems the number of thoughts on this matter is quite large. Weather it was
anti Bush, transcending race, looking for a handout, anti Gitmo or a multitude of other "hopes",
weather they were logical, fantasy or ignorance. B.O. had a following.
Coming back to my main thought here. We, and I include ALL THOSE claiming to be a part of or
a supporter of T.E.A. party have our own ideas of what is most important. At first I was a little upset
at the thought of someone trying to make bucks off the convention. It still goes against my grain a
little but that should not be our focus i believe. We need some form of leadership in order to get past the
GRASS ROOTS stage and move on to become the viable party changer which we can be.
There has to be some juggling and rearrangement in this process but the one thing we all must realize,
WE ARE ALL WORKING FOR ONE GOAL, THE CONTINUATION OF OUR CONSTITUTION.
We The People,
Not we the factions

If we invoke a purity test, we’ll get Peroted!

The libtards on MSNBC are going crazy right now. Ed Schultzs head is going to explode.

Oh…if anyone Jed, can make a mountain out of a mole hill it would be our press.

My God Cowboy, be careful man, you might get some on you…I recommend safety glasses!

Thank you! I believe that there is no more powerful concept, nothing more repesentative of the Tea party movement than "We the people." Going forward any politician that does embrace this will not be long for this world. It is great to see so many people getting involved. The government is truely affraid, as the should be!

"…maybe "Big Feed" will be more forgiving of all of us?"

With a handle like "OldGrouchy", who knew you had a sense of humor? Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!

Now that you have listened to Sarah Palin's speech at the 'convention', you now realize what she is all about.

Hopefully, your misgivings have been put to rest, because if not……

Just what is your agenda.

It was good! She inserted “Alaska” once when she should of said “America,” that’ll be on continual loop in the press. I liked her sit down afterwards more than her speech. When she talks extemporaneously her instincts take over, and what you have is a strong American woman, who you know is genuine. Her love of country is without question, and she speaks from experience, not something she read in a book (Barry). I’m a fan, and she will be one to watch as we approach 2012.

She said tonight she doesn't want to be the face of the Tea Party movement, and that there shouldn't be one face. "We The People" should be the faces of the movement, as she also stated tonight.

Totally agree there Grouchy

You do not abandon ship because the ice maker in the ship's galley has sprung a leak.

The four fellow members of our Tea Party movement that came in from Memphis felt thy had an honest beef.

That's OK.

The four hundred MSM reporters that came out to cover their grievance…..

NOW THAT'S THE STORY.

Personally, I believe she speaks from the heart. She is genuine. That is the same quality that Ronald Reagan had; that was part of his disarming charm. That quality, that both she and Reagan share, is what drives the left rabidly insane. In the modern world of polished politicians and teleprompter triatheletes, genuine comes across. So does the phony insincerity of the scripted professionals.

While not a total fan, she did a bit more tonight in closing the deal as far as I'm concerned. She could be the next Reagan or Margaret Thatcher. I know this, I would trust her further than I would trust the current clown in the White House.

Wrong, she did not punch them in the MOUTH.

Any movement without leadership emerging at some point is doomed to flail about and die. Some leadership may be bad, some good. The beauty of the Tea Party movement is that it is organic. Some people, leaders, decided to organize a protest based on the Tea Party in colonial Boston. This idea went viral through the internet and talk radio. People in other cities came together to protest the excesses of the Imperial Federal Government. It grew. It gained influence.

I lived through another great social movement, the counter-culture of the 60's. "Leaders" emerged there. They took the movement in a very bad direction (co-opted by drug dealers and commies). The anti-establishment movement of the 60's has become the establishment. We are participating in the new counter-culture, a new anti-establishment. We need to support leaders who share the American dream. That believe the Constitution is the guiding light of our country. Who speak plainly, practice what they preach, and have integrity. Whether Sarah Palin becomes a prominent figure in the Tea Party movement doesn't matter to me. I agree with most of what she says. I think she speaks pretty plainly. She was one of the first ones out of the gate to publicly support the conservative in NY23. Oh, and she's not a "law-yer". Wish there were some prominent Democrats that would emerge, but they have been in lock-step for so long I don't know if that is possible.

I think we need to co-opt a party much as the commies did the Democrats in the 60's and 70's.

If only a Ronald Reagan would emerge! Or someone
close to his principles and ideals…..

WTF? Are you even remotely serious? Earth to BF, Earth to BF. Come on, it dosen't matter who is speaking on behalf of or even akin to the Tea Party Movement, the msm WILL "harpoon" them. If the msm isn't frothing at the mouth over ALL of the candidates advanced through the TPM, something is wrong with the picture, capisce(Thanks Mago)? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

HOFT, as a so called "conservative" you should be supporting these protestors, not vilifying that they're being covered! The convention does cost too much. The tea party is about we the people. not about fat cats who want to profit off of it.

And yes, you can be a conservative and realize that corporatism is not necessarily capitalism. Wake up and see the FASCISM.

Who gives a damn what the freakin' msm thinks about anything? Everyone of you sound like a vacillating lump of moderate crap! If you don't like it, go progressive! You all sound like a herd of RINO's! Blah friggin' blah. Makes me want to spit. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

You said something very important:
"I lived through another great social movement, the counter-culture of the 60's. "Leaders" emerged there. They took the movement in a very bad direction (co-opted by drug dealers and commies)."

You make a very valid point that few people recognize "co-opted by drug dealers and commies."

Yet how did that occur? That also was an organic movement (pardon the pun). What few people realize, or do not even know, was that the US Government infiltrated the 60's counter culture movement. The US Government had their "people" inside provide ample drugs: grassm hash, LSD, heroin, pills. You name it, the Government supplied it. it was the Government that brought down the counter culture because it was a threat. They made drugs available to all and the movement imploded, from the inside out.

Oh I guess you travelled into the future in your magical machine, eh Pig Feet?You really sound like a backbiting troll to me. Presumption of fact dosen't mean you know anything, dearie. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

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Whoa, two intellectual giants among us, right here.So penny, if SP plays a major role, you're through(finished)? Golly, we're gonna' miss you.You too, Pig Feet? Even though you state religiously, as a qualifier, that you're a fan? Golly, we're gonna' miss you too. Somehow I think we'll survive without you two weasels. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

[ Eli's Hammer] Oh reverse Mugwump, I say !!! There is nothing scarier than the possibility of a middle-class uprising. All those damn lawn tractors— fitted with taupe gun turrents (that's turret for the educated)— massing at the Starbucks for the assault. Conscripts frantically turning outdoor BBQ's into catapults. Women sewing day and night the symbols of the rebellion…IZOD, NIKE, Karan. They are "Fed Up" and not gonna take IT any more! (so quit eating so much and just say no to your uncle's improper advances)
They will "Take the country back." Ok…I'm listening. About here the troops look to their leader." What are we going to take back leader?" Taxes! "We will shrink government and cut taxes a lot."
Hmmm…OK?
"And if anyone dare cross us we will get on our cell phones, computers and pads and call the police to arrest them…(min. $75K per year/per cop..take them to court…(big bucks)…and put them in prison. (…25-35K / year per person, not counting all the side hires.) 70% of local budget is fire and police…they are UNION, you understand?
Then we will spend the tax money we saved to stop terrorism by getting the bad guys to cheaply surrender…or we can spend 200 Billion a year–not counting hidden costs. We can stop Socialism-Security and have "private accounts"…you know, keep our own money. Save it up for a rainy day. Like we do with our credit cards right now. Schools can be privatized, and we can build our own bridges and roads. Parks and campgrounds we can do without, as people can camp anywhere in their country. Of course we will harvest uranium and build reactors–and store it in Harry Reid's state…No, wait: We will store the waste where we live–all things being local now. Keep the government out of banking and insurance as well..We all know we are covered for flood and abnormal situations–because no one is ever left homeless by the insurance business. Bankers will look out for us as well…When conservatives have been in power there is never a depression…recession…recession…big-big recession. Why if we wern't so buisy doing what government does for us we would be wealthy beyond our dreams…except we'd be working for free to do what we pay others to do…so we can make the money that the government wants to do what we don't want to do. But NOW we do want to work for free.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"
[ Eli's Hammer ]

Actually, you won't survive. You'll be carried across the river by the other, more sturdy ones. And even though they'll say you were an integral part of the team, and they "couldn't have done it without you", they'll still never let you do anything other than plan signs in yards. At least you'll have a legitimate excuse to explain the blisters on your palms.

What I understand is that the very SECOND we give a damn about what the msm thinks about our candidates we better concede defeat.Furthermore, if the msm treats them favorably, we better regroup and present another candidate. Who the hell wants to curry the favor of the msm?Surely you understand, don't you?

I wouldn't give you the proverbial sweat off….you get the picture.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

Address the issue I raise numchuckles. I have a proveable track record of my respect for Sarah Palin. I have no agenda against her. It could be anyone. But Palin's the one they trotted out. Address the point I raised above. You can do this.

Space transport? There's going to be way too much money in that business to let the public sector do it.

Anyway, the folks at NASA really shouldn't be worried about its future manned space program getting canned. The way Barack Obama is promising to spend money like there's no tomorrow, federal budget deficits that are already staggering thanks to years of Bush Administration madness will now go so high that we can just strap astronauts on them and make it to Mars in no time. As Buzz Lightyear would say, "To infinity and BEYOND!"

Oh, yes, one more thing. Obama and his people want NASA Administrator Griffin out. This is the same Obama cabal that has no problem with the likes of Defense Secretary Robert Gates and FBI Director Robert Mueller staying in their positions. Robert Gates, whose unbelievably appalling history is a disgrace to this nation, and Robert Mueller, a man who has shredded any right to privacy Americans might once have enjoyed, get to stay; but the head of NASA has to go.

Yeah. Right. That makes sense.

No, really, it does. But only if you stop thinking Obama's presidency is something other than the Bush Administration with every bit of the arrogance, a whole lot of the corruption, a good dose of the viciousness, more than a hint of the short-sightedness, but not one shred of the incompetence.

The 21st Century, Epilogue, will now continue.

That's cool. If you can't afford it, that doesn't make you a freeloader. Just a poor sumbitch.

You are hopelessly lost in your own fantasies of courting the msm, aren't you, Pig Feet?
The msm can't villainize the people? Your cognitive thought process is clouded by your juvenile rhetoric, whacking material(project much?)?If the msm can't villainize "the people", who in the hell do they call 'teabaggers', dolt? Who do they call nazi's and racists? Who do they call homophobes?They don't seem to have a problem of doing just that already, so I guess you're an idiot who dosen't even have a point to make.Get your head out of your ass. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

It's the total number of dates he's dreamed about in his lifetime so the number pops readily off the top of his head.

Yeah, the pointy part…..

I surprised their mommies let the leave the basement unsupervised.

There are some really good people out there. A person that I really respect, although he is not very flashy is Jim DeMint. Michelle Bauchman is also a patriot. But, there aren't too many Ron Reagan's growing on trees!

So then maybe the founding fathers should have just continued to meet and merely discuss…

Life..Liberty.. and the Pursuit off……

Somebody had to be the keynote speaker.

But not Palin because….?

549 RICH? you have to be kidding me son. Most of the people that went to washington spent more then that. If you are going to have a hotel and stay a couple days it will cost you. I have been to many conferences in my years in business both as an attendee and as a presenter usual bill 600 for a local event 1000 to 3000 for a national. If you want meeting rooms break out groups and av equipment someone has to pay for it. No one was required to attend, perhaps the media hype as this as a national convention is what you are responding to as did the folks from Tenn. It was an opportunity to meet and network the founding fathers had to pay for lunch in Philadelphia too. Not everyone is corrupt and not everyone that went to that particular convention was rich. Just how much did that puter your pounding on set you back anyway sparky?

Time to return to the wisdom of The Constitution…this is where it starts…get involved

Life is good, hope is in the air "We shall overcome" Question authority, speak truth to power and fear no man, for real men are on the side of freedom and will stand shoulder to shoulder against tyrany.

There will be follow through with this movement, the numbers are too great and growing everyday. And, most importantly, this movement represents the truth and the people know it!

This all about Obama losing Cap and Tax. He will use whatever department in the administration that he can to propagate his global warming agenda. Redirect NASA's space funding into climate change research, dramatically increase funding for the EPA, shift CIA resources from analyzing intelligence to global warming, and use the Dept of Homeland security to study the effects of global warming on our security. Ironic that DC is being hit with its 3rd blizzard this winter!

LOL! Pigs Feet pwned you. Reduced you to the equivalent of a "your momma" comeback. Pigs Feet for President!

BF, If you're waiting for evidence of intellect from Bozo…er, Hanzo…you might as well forget about it. I'm afraid you've already seen the extent of his intellectual capabilities. As you've probably already realized, they consist of (a) misunderstanding clearly expressed comments, (B) reflexively assuming you are the enemy because you do not see things exactly as he does, and then (C) throwing a childish tantrum in which he calls you a bunch of silly names. TROLL!!! All the while insinuating that he is some sort of giant of socio-political thought. It's embarrassing to watch (read), as he appears to have no idea what a fool he invariably makes of himself. You are doing a great job, BF, of allowing him to display what an imbecile he truly is. It's kind of sad though, because he — and many others like him — really makes conservatives look like complete idiots. I hope he calls me names too –TROLL!!! — I would consider it an honor and a compliment.

It just tears the media and the libs apart to not be able to Identify a 'leader' of the TEA Party movement. Alinski says you need to isolate, identify and riddicule. With no distinct leader their efforts and stragey gets diffused. Frustrates the hell out of them.
Fact is that the party needs no leader, it only needs followers and supporters, the CONSTITUTION is our founding principle, truth, integrity, small government, less spending, lower taxes. WE THE PEOPLE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE REST!!!

*Yawn*, go back through the thread, he said that if we don't advance a candidate that won't get
'harpooned', his word, that we might as well forget it. Read much? Ho hum, zzzzzzzzzz………Hanzo

If you're going to insult people, at least be right. Here is what he said:

"And you only make my point. The MSM WILL harpoon any "individual" associated with the movement. And that would be an effective tact for the MSM and their agenda. Harpooning the people, however, has not and will not be an effective tact for the MSM. So why give them an individual?"

Make stuff up much? Face it. You are wrong on this one. So wrong you just decided to lie.

I've read every bit of it. It was entertaining. And then it became tragic. You are wrong as rain. But refuse to admit it.

Hilarious, Ralph. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

I've seen these little "counter-protests" bubbling up for a year now. There are some who want to go in a 3rd party direction who have been a vocal minority from the beginning. They are upset because most people in the movement recognize that as the path to failure. They are angry because they now have to make a choice they swore they'd never make. They are passing from denial to anger. Personally, I don't want to hear from them until they get to acceptance. If they can't get over their petty prejudices, they should go crawl into bed with the Democrats. They are very accepting of angry hate filled people.

Run Bozo. Hide from the facts. You totally misstated that guy just so you could pound your chest like a gorilla. I guess seeking affirmation in the collective. It's funny because he's right. Even Sarah Palin made his point. Anyone here can read what he wrote. Then there is what you wrote. You're coming off as a complete and utter nitwit. You should stop.

What Bozo, I mean Hanzo doesn't want you to know:

"Palin suggested that the party should remain leaderless and cautioned against allowing the movement to be defined by any one person. "This is about the people" and "it's a lot bigger than any charismatic guy with a teleprompter," she said, jabbing at Obama.

LOL. That mental midget schooled you.

Who exactly crowned Geraldo the King of Tea? I wonder if this will go over as well as when the Democrats tried to make Rush the "leader"?

ad homs begat ad homs, mr. righteous. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

Okay. This has to be an act. You're not this thick. Can't be this thick.

Let me simplify this, as I agree with Pigs Feet

Individual = bad

People = good

Read once more. Very closely.

"The MSM WILL harpoon any "individual" associated with the movement. And that would be an effective tact for the MSM and their agenda. Harpooning the people, however, HAS NOT not and WILL NOT not be an effective tact for the MSM. So why give them an individual?"

So you see, he acknowledges just as you say. That the MSM will attack whomever the individual is, so that's bad, and he's telling you that the MSM would be successful at attacking an individual (hard to argue differently given what they did to Palin the first time around). Thereby, undermining the tea party movement. And he also acknowledges that MSM has and will continue to attack the people (he never says they wouldn't). Just like you say. But PF is saying that attacking the people, unlike attacking an individual, has not and will not be successful (hard to argue given the success of the tea party movement despite the media's attack on the people) . So, as PF says, why give them and individual? Why not just keep the movement in the hands of the people? Can you follow that Sir Thickhead?

And then along comes Sarah Palin. And what do you know? She says virtually the exact same thing that PF said. Is Mrs. Palin wrong too.

It would be one thing if you two disagreed. Who's to say who's right? But you don't even understand his point. Not because PF failed to make his point, but because you're thick in the head. You really shouldn't be engaging in these types of debates. And you damn sure shouldn't be running around claiming to be an intellectual giant.

You are patently absurd. Attacking the people has been highly effective for the msm, as they attempt to marginalise the TPM as racists, nazis, homophobes, etc. Yes, it has been successful, just not with Tea Partiers, serving only to galvanize opposition. I never, ever said that the TPM should have an individual represent the entire movement, dolt.Talk about a thick head.People aren't voting for Scott Brown, et al, because they feel sorry for the TPM because the msm is picking on them, d'uh.
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We always get a chuckle from the comments of a devoted salad tosser, thanks.

Come on people. Enough with the Sarah Palin business. And I'm a fan. But making her the face of this, which is what's happening, is a BIG mistake. I could list a number of reasons, but if you stopped and thought about it, I wouldn't have to.

Big News happening right now. Andrew Breitbart just introduced Sarah Palin at the Tea Party Convention in Nashville. The winds of change are a blowing.

Can we let the lady talk without elevating her stature to mythical god-like proportions? She's nobody's "face". Labeling is only good for separating the fruits from the vegetables in cans. So maybe we could listen without the whining for a change.

There are at least 4 people in my own family that don't like me. Excuse me for not being impressed.

Reagan with heels! I hope so brother, so far so good.

Having someone give the keynote address does not make them the spokesperson for an entire movement. Epic fail.

I never once saw Palin standing out in the elements at the tea parties I was at. You see her?

I guess I'm confused your concerned that Palin will be painted as the leader of The Tea Party movement by the media but then criticize her for not being at the Tea Parties. Sorry those positions are in conflict with each other. And she specifically stated that the Tea Party should remain a bottom up organization. In my opinion she has kept her distance from the movement because she respects it and what it stands for. She knows the media is looking for any angle to smear both her and the movement, just look at how they used her fee in just that way.

Hey everyone has their opinions about Sarah, personally I like her and respect how she has dealt with all the unfair personal attacks on her and her family, If you are indeed a conservative then at least be fair with your criticism.

I heard her say that she was going to syphin the money she get at the tea party convention, back to the tea party.

There are some really good people out there. A person that I really respect, although he is not very flashy is Jim DeMint. Michelle Bauchman is also a patriot. But, there aren't too many Ron Reagan's growing on trees!

Wow, what are you….12?

Quite obtuse? Wow, we were going back and forth over several different comments on this thread, peabrain. Yeah, it might be kinda' hard to follow if you weren't there, moron. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

I'm very pleased that the TEA party movement proved more than tantrum, and hope this party becomes a national contender. As even Ralph Nader said, Americans need more voices and choices in the elections. The two parties have been tag-team raping the American people with no bid contracts, and backdoor deals (see health care debate). That being said, sooner or later (hopefully not in my lifetime) the TEA movement will be bought by special interests and lobbyists just as the other two parties.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. The only party I see truly dedicated to keeping the power in the hands of the people, is the GOOOH Party. Liberals and Conservatives alike should at least check out http://www.goooh.com. GOOOH's only concern is putting forth a candidate who best represents the people.

It appears, by reading some posts by "Big Foot" and a few others, a perception exists that there is a BOOGIE MAN in this Tea Party movement.

Somehow, people believe that by having Sarah Palin speak at this 'convention' that she has somehow been annointed the head of the movement.

Write this down everyone: She was only asked to be the keynote speaker of this singular event (by the organizers of this event)

A keynote speech is nothing more than an oral affirmation by a noted individual of the purpose of the gathering in question.

I do not remember seeing a vote being taken by the participants for the purpose of making Sarah Palin anything.

For those who 'fear' the MSM will make this unfounded perception their marching orders for the purpose of defining OUR movement, than I am afraid they have already won, at least in your eyes.

Thank God, true advocates of the Tea Party understand what we are all about…

And realize that one person speaking at one of our gatherings can not change the spirit of our movement.

The Constitution of the United States of America is going to again be the guiding light for every politician we send to Washington from here on out.

Bingo. She said it should remain a bottom up movement. I agree with her. She may even mean it. But despite that, there are already people equating her as the face of the movement. And my point is and has been, that we should not even give people that opportunity? Do you disagree? I'm not sure why so many people here can't speak to that. They'd rather just call me names.

And please, enough with the "if you really are a conservative" business. Where does that even come from?

Great. Then what are waiting for? Let's go ahead and make Sarah Palin the face of the movement. Let's do that right there at this site. Who's with me?

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I apologize it was just poor word chose on my part.

I attend multi day (usually 3 days) industry conventions every year.
They always cost over $1000.

I hope the movement can survive all the jealous childish attention whores, but sadly I don't think it will. The Tea Party is going to go the way of the reform party.

You know you're in trouble when you have a group that supposed to be a champion of capitalism, complaining about well, capitalism.

In order to win at the National level, we'll have to merge with the GOP. Not just merge, take over the party, and I feel we've made inroads already. The Republican 'leaders' have already taken notice of the TPM, and some of them are quite accomodating, agreeing with our principles anyway. For the Conservative branch of the GOP the TPM is a godsend. For the RINO'S and some moderates, not so much. That's ok, let's marginalise and drum them out.Scott Brown won on a wave of anti-Obama sentiment, not because the dems and independents felt sympathy, or a kindred spirituality, with the TPM.Let's face it, as twisted as politics is in this country right now, at some point we'll have to play by the rules, in order to get noticed and win on a National level, sorry, but that's reality, no matter how much we wish otherwise.
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Man, is it hot in here today…!

As I said before, without a "leader", the Alinsky rules grind to a halt against the TEA Movement…

BUT, and a verryy big BUT, the TEA Movement represents a tremendous voting bloc, so expect it to be thoroughly courted by individuals…and attempted co-option by others…

There will be a push by some, even some who's ideas are very congruent with the purpose of the TEA Movement to make it into a third party…the very nature of the disparate individuals in the Movement makes that a Herculean task…if not completely impossible…

As an idea, it sounds nice…until you realize that without a supporting party in majority in Congress, nothing would get passed…both the Dimocraps and the Repugnantlicans would stop everything between them…including positive changes that the third party would take credit for…

Co-opting an established party is harder, but more effective in the long run…and the groundwork for that is already been established with the Republicans at the current time…

Personally, I believe Sarah Palin is on the path closest to the one Ronald Reagan trod on his way to the White House…I've researched almost all the "…gate" attacks, and most barely rise to the level of nuisance…but there are a LOT of them, filed by almost anyone with the filing fee in their pocket…or their "war chest"…

I can see where they reached almost $500,000.00 dollars and consumed vast amounts of time for minutiae like "no photo ID while fishing" and traffic violations… AND, all while the most serious of the ethics complaints fall flat, are dropped, or are dismissed…

The question everyone should ask is, "If Sarah Palin is such a useless twerp that would destroy the Republican Party, WHY DO THEY SPEND EVERY MOMENT THEY CAN ATTACKING HER….??!!?"

Thanks for reporting my comments to the site admin., nice childish tact there.Don't worry, I won't report your insults.As for being concerned with glory-seekers, that's going to be an ongoing problem, we're talking politics here, afterall.Eventually there must be a 'face', or 'faces' that represent the TPM. In order to appeal to the general populace we'll have to put forth someone, or several people, so that the populace will have someone they can identify with, at least on the National level, this is human nature. We can support a platform on principles only, I'm afraid most of the general publis might have difficulty with this……….

….That's not to say that SP is this person.As we've seen, the msm has already 'annointed' her as such. Before that it was Tom Tancredo, Jim Demint, Ric Santorum, et al. As soon as a person speaks out on behalf of the TPM, the msm pounces and attempts to 'annoint' and villify this person, and it won't stop. Eventually, when we put forth a Presidential Candidate, this person will be raked over the coals as never before, especially if we're even more successful up to that point.I feel we have to deal with it by simply ignoring the msm, they don't play by the rules, and you know that.Any lie they can fabricate will be used, no matter what. The msm is marginalising theirselves more everyday, let them, who cares what they report, I say. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

That's not the point Russet is making, you know that. You have an annoying habit of putting words into others mouths.I don't have to explain the reply by Russet, it was well stated in a lucid fashion, you're just attempting, in a juvenile way, to twist their words.There hasn't been a single person in this thread who said SP should be the face of the TPM, yet it seems to be your tactic of attempting to villify all who oppose your opinions.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo

The only thing my comments establish in this, or any other thread is that if you go ghetto with me, I'll return the favor.

from what I've read, now that you finally took the time to address my point, is that you think it's inevitable that the movement will obtain a face. I'm not sure I can disagree with you on that, who's to say. If that's the case, I think Sarah Palin as that face would be a mistake. And that's not a reflection of my thoughts on her. it's a reflection of what other people, those that could be brought into the movement already think. I think Palin wants the support of the tea party. But she's smart enough to know that if she becomes that face, she will destroy it. Hence her comments that she doesn't want to be the leader and that the GOP and the tea party should merge.

Actually, Reagan was widely vilified in the LSM: from age, mental capacity, political "conservatives want you to suffer" leanings, to hawkishness, the list was endless…

The Key? Jimmah Cartuh…I remember people back then willing to elect anyone than send Carter back…even someone from the party of Nixon, which wasn't that long ago (Watergate), at that moment in time…

History DOES repeat itself…you just have to wait long enough…and have the Obama…

You are a fearful person who worries more about popularity among people who don't vote than doing the right thing. The MSM will make ANYONE who opposes them look foolish.

Heheh. Good point, and sadly true.

recently I've heard white sheets mentioned.

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as I see it, anyone showing up thinking anything should be FREE is automatically suspect. Dims
& progs are all about FREE. Some things just can't be free.

Right, but I lived the Reagan experience and he was not nearly as toxic in the public eyes as Sarah Palin has become. For no other reason than the lack of media compared to today and the lack of incriminating sound bytes making him look like a buffoon (as is the case with Palin). I agree with your Carter take. At this point, and things can change a lot, anyone could beat Obama. Polls of "generic" republican candidates prove that. Insert Palin as the Republican candidate and that lead shrinks or disappears. I'm not sure we can ignore that.

And beyond all that

You write "Hi, Mom!" on your palm and let the LSM run your message for you, while enthusiastically throwing raw egg on their faces…

That kind of a mistake gets tough to bounce back from by the LSM…

IF she isolates the LSM, (which looks like is happening), she will win in 2012…she will drive the message…just look at the brouhaha she forced from the LSM over a "Carol Burnett Show" moment…

She is miles ahead of almost everyone…and she has YEARS to refine the techniques she's using…

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