The Tim Tebow-Hating Rabbi and Progressive Bigotry
by Jeff DunetzWe all have to count our blessings. One of my new blessings is that I do not attend Temple Beth El, in Stamford Ct., because the last person I would want teaching my children is their rabbi, Joshua Hammerman.
Hammerman is behaving like a different kind of “RINO,” a Rabbi In Name Only. Writing in this week’s issue of the progressive New York Jewish Week, Hammerman has displayed bigotry unworthy of the pulpit. (His article has since been pulled from the website. If you still wish to read the rabbi’s original post, you can check out the cached version here.)
Hammerman admits he has a Tim Tebow problem:
A poster boy of the Christian right, Tebow steadfastly thanks Jesus after every game and, while in college, often inscribed biblical messages on his eye paint. Homeschooled in Florida, this child of missionaries turned down his selection as a Playboy All American because it was, well, Playboy. His trademark prayerful touchdown celebration (imagine Rodin’s “Thinker” on bended knee, or your grandfather davening Tachanun with a football) has become a verb.
Funny — whenever something really special happens in my life I pause and say a Jewish prayer.
The prayer translates to:
Blessed are you, our God, who rules the universe, granting us life, sustaining us and enabling us to reach this day.
I wonder if that would scare the rabbi? If not, than it’s clear that Tim Tebow scares him solely because he is Christian.
As if to gain sympathy from his progressive audience, the rabbi mentions that there is a YouTube video that makes fun of the fact that Tebow’s mom was sick during her pregnancy with him and she refused to abort her son despite doctor’s recommendation.
Now tiny Tim has grown and is on track to possibly appear in this season’s Super Bowl–on the field–and that is what scares me.
In this country, nothing, not even God, is more popular than football. Even in the wake of a summer long labor dispute, 23 of the 25 most watched TV programs this fall have been NFL games. When you combine the religion that is football with the religion that is religion, the mix can be dangerously flammable.
Really now–we are taught that God is everywhere, so why can’t He be on a football field (and why can’t He play for my Jets)? And what exactly does the rabbi mean by “flammable?” Observant people will start riots when talking football and religion? How ignorant and biased can the rabbi be? I have discussed football in shul over some whiskey after Shabbos services, and I can promise you there has never been a flammable situation (OK–there was that one time when one of the kids dropped a Havdalah candle during services, but that was scarcely anything to worry about).
Next Sunday, the Broncos host the New England Patriots in a game coveted so much by the networks that NBC and CBS sparred in unprecedented fashion over who would get to broadcast it. And why not? While the Patriots are adored by their fans (myself included), to many nationwide they are regarded as the Sons of Darkness, with their perfectly coiffed Hollywood quarterback and their brilliant – one might say diabolical – hoodie-clad coach. And, oh yes, the most identifiably Jewish owner in sports. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and Bob Kraft are all upstanding citizens, moral exemplars in their home communities, but in this Oberammergau of the Rockies, they are playing the role of Pilate.
What does the religion of the Patriots’ owner have to do with anything? No one would have ever come up with the silly idea that this was some sort of Good Friday passion play until the rabbi brought it up. It is beyond ignorant. Besides, Hammerman writes for the NEW YORK Jewish Week. The Patriots are the enemy (and Belichick is a deserter who has proven to be a cheater, also).
People are always looking for signs of God’s beneficence, and a victory by the Orange Crush over the blue-clad Patriots, from the bluest of blue states, will give fodder to a Christian revivalism that has already turned the Republican presidential race into a pander-thon to social conservatives, rekindling memories of those cultural icons of the ‘80s, the Moral Majority and “Hee Haw.”
Rabbis are supposed to unify their congregations, and preach tolerance of other opinions. In the picture above, Hammerman is preaching at a tolerance for Muslims rally. Why wont he display the same tolerance for Christians or other people who disagree with his progressive stances? Maybe he should step back and think for a moment. Many Orthodox Jewish synagogues preach the same socially conservative beliefs as those he disparages, and many in the Conservative movement–of which he is a member–also share some of those beliefs (like me, for example).
The culture wars are alive and well, and, if the current climate in Washington is any indicator, the motors are being revved up for what will undoubtedly be the most cantankerous Presidential campaign ever. When supposedly well-educated candidates publicly question overwhelming scientific evidence on climate change and evolution and then gain electoral traction by fabricating conspiracies about a war on Christmas, these are not rational times.
There is a line in the Torah that says: “It [the Torah] is Not in Heaven” (Deuteronomy 30:12). It has been interpreted, according to rabbinic tradition, to mean that even though the Torah was sent from God, we are able to question and interpret it according to certain guidelines. The Talmud, one of the central books of Jewish law, is a series of arguments between learned people about what is the correct law.
Now, if the not-in-Heaven Torah and Jewish law in general are made up of differing arguments between scholars, how can Hammerman put down people who question a scientific theory that, the last time I checked, was not a sacred part of the Jewish canon?
Into the middle of it all rides Tebow. Absolutely confident that God is on his side, he comes across as a humbler version of the biblical Joseph, who, in this week’s Torah portion, audaciously lays claim to being the Chosen One, and then goes out and proves it. Tebow’s sanctimonious God-talk has led even pious peers like Kurt Warner to suggest that he cool it. Joseph could have used the same coaching.
Tebow believes that God is on his side in life–not in football! And if the rabbi would examine his prayer books instead of his progressive politics, he would realize that Judaism teaches the exact same thing:
I admire much of what Tebow stands for. His mom’s decision to risk her own life rather than abort her fetus flies against my own – and Judaism’s values, [Please don't pretend you speak for all Judaism--because you are wrong!]– but neither am I pro-choice in all cases. His story is so improbable that if he were to win it all, a part of me would be wondering whether there is a Purpose behind it, just as I saw a divine hand in the equally unbelievable Red Sox victory of 2004. And it makes me wonder whether other Jews, the ones who don’t happen to have advanced degrees in religion and a few decades of rabbinic experience, might be even more seduced by this unfolding drama. Will legions of Southern Baptist missionaries hit the college campuses the very next day, spreading this new gospel of Tim? Already there is a “Jews for Tebow” Facebook page.
First of all, the Red Sox victory in 2004 had nothing to do with God. But the 1969 and 1996 Mets, as well as the Jets’ win in Super Bowl III, were clearly divinely inspired.
Tebow used to wear eye black citing Ephesians 2:8-10, which states, “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith (in Jesus).” His avenue to salvation is not available to those Jews who wish to remain Jewish.
So? That is his belief, just as we believe that when the Moshiach (Messiah) comes to the Temple in Jerusalem when it is rebuilt, we will celebrate the Festivals as they did 2000-plus years ago. No Gentiles partaking of the Pascal lamb, but that doesn’t really matter because we also believe that “on that day the Lord will be one and His name one.” Does that mean Christians should be afraid of me? I don’t think so.
Unlike some other blue-staters, I do not fear people of faith. I fear people of certainty. The worldwide struggle going on right now is not between good and evil, but between certainty and doubt. It cuts across denominational lines: Progressive and Modern Orthodox Jews lie on one side of the divide, joining mainline Christians and moderate Muslims; and those on the other side are also Jews, Christians and Muslims; the people of certainty.
Of course it is between good and evil, rabbi. Progressives like you think that man should be dependent on government. Progressives preach against God because the government does not like competition. Progressives hate nothing more than when people wear their faith on their sleeves–if they are conservatives or share conservative beliefs.
Tim Tebow is an example for all–Jew, Muslim and Christian. Jews are taught that everything that God gives us is a blessing. Tebow is a living example of that. One of the first prayers Jews are supposed to make in the morning is thanking the Lord for making us wash our hands. Now, if we can thank God for commanding us to wash our hands, what is wrong with thanking God for scoring a touchdown in the NFL?
For me, only one thing is certain. On Sunday, I’ll be praying for the Patriots.
It is strange that Hammerman’s column in the Jewish Week is called “on one foot”–an homage to an old story about the great sage, Rabbi Hillel.
Rabbi Hillel and Rabbi Shammai were the two great scholars of their time, yet they were diametrically opposed in their approach. Hillel was known for his kindness, his gentleness, and his concern for humanity. Rabbi Shammai was an engineer, known for the strictness of his views. Throughout the Talmud, it is Rabbi Hillel’s approach that wins the argument.
The Talmud tells of a Gentile who came to Shammai saying that he would convert to Judaism if Shammai could teach him the whole Torah in the time that he could stand on one foot. Shammai drove him away with a builder’s measuring stick! So that same non-Jew went to Rabbi Hillel, who said: “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah; the rest is commentary. Go and study it.” And the Gentile did.
If the entire Torah, what we call the Etz Chaim–the Tree of Life–can be condensed into “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor,” maybe that principle is important enough for Rabbi Hammerman to remember when he talks about observant Christians like Tim Tebow.
Sorry, rabbi, but as a New Yorker and a Jets fan I will be rooting for the Broncos. I will also be praying that you remember what you were taught in the seminary about religious tolerance.
Now if the Broncos play the Jets in the NFL Playoffs, Mr. Tebow, I will have to apologize in advance–I will be praying you lose.







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As a NY Giant fan, I am hoping that the Broncos win every game that Tim Tebow plays. Unless they play the Giants.
Progressives are getting are getting desperate.
A Fox smells its own lair first. Beckel is a Progressive and a Bigot.
He also wrote on Twitter:
@joshuahct Joshua Hammerman
bit.ly/uhZxV8 Brady, Belichick & Kraft are upstanding citizens but in this Rockies Oberammergau, they play the role of Pilate.
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Rabbi is afraid of Kurt Warner replica season. Oh well. Twelve candles to you bro.
This Rabbi should have the head on his shoulders circumcised and piss through it….. Some Rabbi, probably of the Golden Calf variety.
Go Tim… Win or Lose…You're a Winner.
Wow! How soon the religiously persecuted forget.
BTW: can we get off the "Tebow-thing". It's not like he's the first Christian to play in the NFL–heck, he's not in the first thousand!!!
Hey, at least he didn't grab a machete and yell Allah allkababab or something like that. I mean, c'mon, who gives a flip about what the good rabbi said. Ain't he allowed to have an opinion?
First, stop calling them progressives. They're leftists. How is bringing us back to 1917 progress?
Don't let them win by letting them have the words, otherwise, we conservatives are dead meat.
Second, bigotry is nothing new to the left. The left is nothing but bigotry. Bigotry against the unborn, taxpayers, anyone who disagrees with them, Christians….
Rabbi means teacher, this guy is an insult to Faith Holding Jews. He is entitled to his opinion but to say that Christians are going to burn Mosques……what an @ss and that's the kindest thing I can say. Dear G-d please remember this man when Messiah returns, I have no doubt there is a special place for him.
I suggest a new unit of measurement for gauging the intensity of unhinged religious figures. I call them "Wrights," using Reverend Jeremiah Wright as the baseline. This rabbi sounds like he's roughly 0.8 Wrights, whereas Anwar al-Awlaki and Jim Jones measure well into the giga-Wrights.
I know a lot of Rabbis they are not perfect but I've never heard this kind of filth from them. This Rabbi is an activist first and JINO second. Jew in Name Only.
Kinda funny how none of the sky pointing, Jesus thanking rigamaroll was ever an issue when it was a black Wide Receiver, Defensive End, Tackle, Safety, Linebacker, Running Back, Fullback, Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, Chauffeur, Ticket Agent then, Quarterbacks doing it.
Well, maybe not so much….
FULL DISCLOSURE: As a Bear fan, I will tell you. It was not Tebow and the Broncos who won. It was those idiot, brain-dead, overpaid, useless, uncoordinated, douchebags from Chicago that lost the F#^$kin' game.
Jacka**, dirtbag, worthless, nutless, scumbags……
There….I'm done,
I like this idea……however I hate to give the credit to GD Wright.
Al Sharpton sez:
Not, he much.
Tim Tebow has his rights, as does the rabbi.
I have my rights to ignore them, snicker at their foolishness or be needlessly annoyed by something that has no impact on my life.
If God plays favorites then there is NO FREE WILL!!!
Get over it Timmy…
EDIT: I see the gutless are clicking me down without an explanation or a challenge. I suspect they are the lunatic fringe religionists instead of normal Christians. I guess they fear God won't favor them in a debate…
This Jew would rather have true Christians ruling than leftist 'progressives' any day.
First, stop calling them progressives. They're leftists
Oh, the term is correct. A misnomer, if the ever was one, but that is who they are. They are interchangeable.
I've know a number of Rabbis through the years also but they were men of God not of Political Agendas.
without Cutler they were done anyway.
Add the loss of Forte and, well, you have it. No game changers left. Too bad, too- because they would have won out and faced the Pack in the NFC Championship again… but Tebow played well and the Bears inexplicably put no pressure on him and allowed that field goal. Just what were the coaches thinking?
Not too much…
I am a die hard Bronco's fan. Obviously Tebow's wins make me pretty happy, but what makes me even happier is that the Liberal heads are exploding over his success and religion.
I'll remember your a Giants fan my friend. You still have to get past Green Bay…..good luck with that.
why would a jewish rabbi criticize a christian athlete?
Like when Jon Stewart did it, it smacks of a TRUE tin ear. Had the tables been reversed and a jewish athlete been taken to task by a christian clergyman for celebrating his beliefs during a win he would be labled 'anti-semitic'.
There is Jesus Derangement Syndrome out there, and it's an ugly sight…
Haine was not that terrible and the game was sewn up, d.
Then again,…… it was an ex-Cowboy for a change
Too many former Cowboys on the field for the Bears lately. Barber lined up illegally against the Chiefs and negated a TD; Roy Williams fumbled a perfect pass from Hanie that they picked off in the endzone. Next? Barber forgets to run out of bounds with under 2min to play, and then he fumbles after getting the Bears in to FG range… There is the loss to Denver…
It was former Dallas Cowboys. Against the Chiefs too… Barber and Williams…
Seriously, I think you atheists need to get over it. Christians don't ask or thank God to win games for them. It is an acknowledgement that their belief helps them in the trials and travails of everyday life and enables them to be the best they can be, in everything they try to do. I don't see or hear of him pushing anything on anyone. If it's a matter of his high visibility, get over it.
Caleb Hainie can't execute Martz' play plan- not to mention Cutler can do things ordinary humans can't.
He has the most talent of any QB in the league- including Rogers who is more polished but Jay has more arm- and his busted play making ability WINS games. Same with Forte.
As far as Williams and Barber, well Dallas let 'em go for a reason. It underscores the weakness of Knox and Hester (definitely!) as wide outs. They need a healthy Jay and a 6'4" receiver with good hands.
Then, watch out…
get it all out, guys…
Think of the positive. Green Bay will be undefeated but lose in the second round…
The term is being used by the left in an Orwellian way.
Leftists want to take us BACK to 1917. How is that PROGRESS?
So they're not PROGRESSIVES. We are the PROGRESSIVES because we want to move forward. For example, we look forward to 2012.
True, if we could put a few more weapons around him, the team that shall NEVER be mentioned by name, would be in trouble.
galtfan said:
"If God plays favorites then there is NO FREE WILL!!!"
What about the Jews-are-God's-chosen-people thing?
That, would make my year.
And Green Bay is going to dominate
A bit presumptuous on your part to label me as an Atheist, no?
Apparently you don't watch much in the way of sporting events – especially football. Many athletes have directly attributed their success on the field in a particular game or series, or on a particular play to divine intervention. If they truly believe that then they DO NOT believe in free will. Also, it strikes me as a bit theatrical and self-serving on the part of some of them to presume that God is "on their side".
In any contest "favoritism" IS a zero-sum game. Any act of favoritism that would be "divine intervention" is a negation of free will – you can't have it both ways.
Tebow? I care what he does(?)… – I have the right to ignore it. I think the rabbi made a first class ass of himself over nothing. A bunch of silliness on all sides IMO…
At least you had the guts to respond…
This Objectivist would rather live in a free society based on objective law that is justly administered.
I will "rule" myself, thank you…
Should have become a Green Bay fan, my fellow Illinoisian.
Nah, I'd rather see them lose in the Superbowl on a last second score to whoever the sixth seed in the AFC is…
Hester plays receiver? Who knew?
I'm with you 100% gellero. Me too!
Exactly! That's why "they" gave my decent, white Christian mother a lowly job 30+ years ago and allowed her to climb the corporate ladder and nearly join what was the "1%" at the time. Pure hatred, I tell ya…
Traitor…
"If God plays favorites then there is NO FREE WILL!!! "
On the contrary, if God is all-powerful then he can't be limited in the way you suggest. That is, he has the power both to play favorites and to allow everyone free will. He is not limited by anything: not physics, not time, not space…nor mortal logic.
I've got a thing against being in an abusive relationship, which is also why I could never support the Cubs.
Well, if the Giants can't win it all, I'm all for Denver. I would love to see the lib media's heads explode as they try to edit out anything religious he says.
Brilliant comment by the great Ramzpaul as always:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMvyJdaYxE0
Cubs? Eh, who watches minor league baseball anyway?
Actually, yes. They promote the disruption of all countries they have influence in. Promoting women in business as part of their anti-family agenda is part of that. Won't see much of that in Israel, for instance, where they beat women on buses for not sitting in the back:
http://www.haaretz.com/woman-beaten-on-j-lem-bus-...
So, the Jews gave your mother a job, eh? How interesting you can acknowledge this but you would probably crumble when speaking of other acts of Jews. Can't have it both ways.
Apparently you are not "limited" by "mortal logic" either. Playing favorites negates free will by it's very act.
Please feel free to think before you respond to any of my statements. It may save you some embarrassment – provided you are able to be honest with yourself…
See, now the problem you have in this particular instance – aside from all of the other ones you undoubtedly have – is that your (since deleted) statement reveals you to be an unthinking bigoted tribalist/collectivist animal. There really are no statements about "all Jews" or "all blacks" or any other racial, ethnic or religious group. ALL people are individuals, and all are capable of being good or perpetrating evil as they choose.
Lame-brain suckers like you buy into group-think BS and allow other people to define the world for you…
Loser.
Not much of a Bronco fan, but I am definitely a Tim Tebow fan because of the lib heads that explode every time he wins. Keep on rockin', Tim!!
"….. in this Oberammergau of the Rockies, they are playing the role of Pilate."
Okay, now I am *really* pissed off: how DARE this egotistical and condescending leftist smear the delightful, kind people of the village where I grew up by using it as some sort of synonym for Judenhass?
It certainly was never an issue when the equally devout, overt and ordained Reggie White, the "Minister of Defense," did it.
Tribalism is what Israel is based on. So you reject Israel?
BTW, Ayn Rand was a liar – she didn't abide by the tripe she was schlocking to the Goyim – no, she supported her tribe and Israel.
Gee, what a shock that someone with the username "GaltFan" is an Objectivist. And has fully drunk of the Objectivist anti-religious Kool-Aid.
Anti-Semite. Probably the latest sock-puppet of samfarber.
Get lost, cretin.
"First of all, the Red Sox victory in 2004 had nothing to do with God."
Not unless God provided them with steroids.
No, in the strict meaning of the word, they are not. Ridiculously, 1917 is where they profess that we want to take the country. When the term liberal became synonomous with failure and ridicule, they hijacked the term progressive to cover their radical leftism. This, of course, was aided and abetted by the blamestream zombies who longed for the lost opportunities of the failed, yet disruptive, late 60's – early 70's.
I forget that too, sometimes…..
Where did I say I was "anti-religious"? What statement did I make that leads you to believe I am "anti-religious"? In what way is Objectivism "kool-aid"? If it is, then why isn't "religion" also just a different brand of the same basic drink?
Do you have a well reasoned and well informed criticism of Objectivism? Or are you another person who read a book about it or read an article about a book about Objectivism?
I find aspects of Christianity that I don't agree with, but I have defended it and the Catholic Church when I have seen them (in my mind) unfairly attacked or criticized. Of course, I will also criticize either if and when I find it warranted…
Quite frankly, I would love to see their aircraft go down, in a blizzard, in the Rockies (or the Andes or a rather large body of salt water) and all they had to eat were those stupid cheesed*ck hats.
…or get hit by a Sidewinder. That'll work for me.
I hate those *#@$^*#@*#^ards.
Where was this rabbi when the serial rapist or a dog killer were in the headlines? A clean cut polite christian kid is giving this rabbi nightmares and causing atheist to go into fits of spit flying convulsions of cussing. I'm enjoying every second of it.
Not for all the arugula in the White House.
I've watched minor league games.
They're not that good.
Not at all….the Walking Newsreaders were all giddy over that.
Yeah, I've been to a few Cubs games too. And the Kansas City Royals… Thankfully I was always a non-paying guest… I did pay to see a few MLB games on the South Side, but they seem rather dysfunctional as of late…
Go 'Hawks!
Ironic isn't it, religious persecution from a jew?
This quote from the so-called Rabbi is just rich:
"Unlike some other blue-staters, I do not fear people of faith. I fear people of certainty. The worldwide struggle going on right now is not between good and evil, but between certainty and doubt. It cuts across denominational lines: Progressive and Modern Orthodox Jews lie on one side of the divide, joining mainline Christians and moderate Muslims; and those on the other side are also Jews, Christians and Muslims; the people of certainty."
Really, WE are the people of certainty, Mr. Climate Change is Certain? Did this guy actually think about what he was saying.
That was rhetorical. This Rabbi is a Grade AAAA @ss and does nothing to help the relationship between Christians and Jews. I have met many conservative/libertarian Jews in my travels when I came to the Right, and this guy certainly does not speak for them.
And you Ronulans wonder why we hate you.
Hint: It's because you're a bunch of unbalanced, half-wits who don't have the common sense, decency or decorum that befits a cockroach.
“That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah; the rest is commentary. Go and study it.”
I like that quote, by the way. Is it bad that it made me laugh a little. I am a Catholic, but sometimes feel the same way about the Bible as a whole – there is probably only one or two absolutes in it and the rest is, well, commentary.
It's also funny that it sounds awfully similar to what Jesus said: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
The Golden Rule is timeless and Truth.
HA! I love your quote. I'm also a Giants fan (that game last weekend was the typical Giants nailbiter) and I agree – I'm routing for the Broncos . . . unless they play the Giants.
As far as the good Rabbi goes, I think I'll go with Tebow's response to his detractors: God Bless You!
That said, I still don't think Tebow's an NFL quarterback, but I do believe that God has blessed him.
The one thing that infuriates me the most about modern day anti-Christian bigotry is how Christians who simply observe the basic theological tenets of their faith that go back 200 years that yes, are rooted in the concept of "One Way" to achieve salvation because that is what the One we worship as the Divine Son of God and Redeemer of mankind said, are assailed for their "intolerance" and how in the minds of these anti-Christian bigots we as Christians are supposed to check our beliefs at the door and subordinate our beliefs to the interests of the "tolerant" secular masses who believe they should impose *their* standards upon us. Christians who believe in One Way are the first to acknowledge that a pluralistic secular society gives all people the right to worship as they please, but it does NOT mean we alter our beliefs regarding the course of history and the Final Judgment of God in Heaven for the sake of political correctness. I am one Christian who will not stand for that kind of third-rate bullying and bigotry from people who clearly want to see the power of the State exercised to crack down on the free exercise of religion for those who dare to stand by the traditional tenets of mainstream Christianity, and this "rabbi" is clearly one person who if he had his way would gladly see that happen.
Can you imagine a game between the two? It would be such a nailbiter I'd be down to the knuckles.
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
Matthew 10:22
Hmm… I seem to remember the Commish wanted to put the kibosh on the post-game prayer gatherings 'Ole Reggie was organizing because the league feared the potential for violence… They relented when they realized how stupid (and potentially racist – the real kind) they came across as being for such a dunder-headed position. Am I "misremembering"?
Feel better now do ya?
Liberals are always wrongly bigoted whether rabbi, atheist, nihilist or socialist.
'plays' is right.
it's not his fault. He's the most electric special teams guy in HISTORY. Nice epitaph on any tombstone. But they wanted to have another roster spot open and utilize his game breaking ability.
Makes sense.
But learning wideout routes with a Martz scheme and a gunslinger like Cutler (can't help but recall Chris Collingsworth on Mon Night Football when the deal was made- the WHOLE game- he said:
'I can't believe they traded Cutler for Kyle Orton'. Over and over) at the playoff level is a lot to ask of anyone. Knox has serious skills but misreads routes and he gave up on the play that took Jay out.
We could go on. And not even true Bear fans- that's how infuriating this whole thing has been. Four weeks ago this was THE most dangerous team in the damn NFL- bring on the Pack…
whatever.
Loss is coming to them. If they are not defeated this season- something the healthy Bears squad would have done- they will most certainly lose in the post season. Several palooka temas have almost beat them anyway.
But it's hard to beat a team that's up 14-zip in the first quarter most of the time. GREAT offense, and Rogers is fricking awesome, he is. But their D is average, and they need to score their 30 points (Damn, we wish Cutler was healthy) to win. Somebody is going to have a career day against them.
They need to pray it happens IN the regular season…
you sound like one of the crew here.
He prattles on about 'team plane crashing' (mostly St Louis Cardinals) but would settle for the Yankees, or Packers. Our take is more 'bring it on'. The Bears with Jay at the helm is the BEST team we've ever seen- including Mc Muffin's 1985 Bears, a heresy, yes.
But Jimmy Mac wan't in Jay's elite status. If healthy next season (with a decent O line and a big receiver) he could do 35 TD's. Even an aging defense would win it all with that kind of offense…
There is a larger issue here. We are beginning to see a militant renaissance of Western Civilization. The truth of the matter is that Judaeo-Christian values are forever changing the course of civilization, and in a positive way.
Islam is becoming militant, wherever they are, burning down Paris even, something even the Nazis did not do. Western civilization is at the crossroads. There are many militant political movements fermenting and growing stronger upon the european continent. There is the Tea Party here in America. There is a growing awareness that we must defend those Judaeo-Christian values, no matter who chooses to degrade them. Mr. Tebow is truly a credit to the human race.
lol
LO!
"I will "rule" myself, thank you… " which could imply that you are saying "you can shove your religion you know were".
Liberal Christians like the Rev. Jim "Mumbler" Wallace could have written the exact same article.
You know why people aren't responding to you, the age-old adage: don't feed the troll.
Sadly, I'm a bit to gruff to follow through on that advise, so I'll cross that bridge.
The concept of Divine Intervention does not negate the idea of Free Will in any way shape or form. To say that it does is not even logical. The concept of Free Will is such that an individual is free to make their own decisions. However, just like everything in life, an outcome is not certain. Divine Intervention is the idea, not that God is making the decision for you, but is instead affecting the outcome in your favor. Whether this favor comes in the form of a favorable gust of wind, or some other outside force, does not negate the core of Free Will, which is the ability for a person to choose.
Your posting on this also betrays a universe-centric view. It views God as part of the universe. How can the Creator be a part of His creation? God is unbound by the limits of this universe, whether those limits be physics or even human logic, to try and claim God is limited by such things is to degrade His glory and misunderstand what He is.
If you need a better point of reference for God, I suggest by thinking of Him as a benevolent eldritch abomination. While it is not accurate, it is a better starting point than the typical "old man with a long white beard" that seems prevalent throughout our culture.
Here's my thought on the whole "Tebow" phenomena.
If all that is accomplished is that God, Jesus, Scripture and prayer are debated, examined and shared over and over again in attempts to understand Tim Tebow and the Broncos' success…then something wonderful has happened. Isaiah 55:11 states that God's Word will accomplish what God desires and achieve His purposes.
What a legacy THAT could be for Tebow; far beyond the Lombardi trophy, or a football career, or wealth and fame.
BK you should now that they are changing what they call thmselves all the time because their policies destroy every place they're implemented. "liberal" isn't a very accurate description of them either.
Pretty scary how Tim Tebow is such a lightning rod of controversy for wearing his faith on his sleeve when his profession is filled with felons. His very limited skill set will come back to haunt him and he'll never win anything substaintial (most of these comebacks of his have been against terrible teams).
And lefty Jews are the worst kind of scum. They're all basically a Soros waiting for nazi to make them an offer.
Progressives are retards!
A better term for them is CONgressives.
IT'S ALL JERRY'S FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Denver plays in the AFC, you HATER IN THE HOUSE!
But thanks for playing. Your year's supply of Rice-A-Roni will arrive shortly
mcMahon not only >Cutler, McMahon>Marino
Well, milady, the WEATHER never stay the same, does it?
That said, clearly Tebow is making that boychick meshuggah
totally disagree. Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, and Doug Williams have a Super Bowl, so Tebow doing it wouldn't be that far-fetched
Please feel free to think before you respond to any of my statements.
Why should he respond at all, if that's how you are going to respond? You didn't actually argue against his points, you merely insulted him and then repeated your argument again. Then, to top it off, you implied that he was not thinking and had embarrassed himself.
GaltFan, YOU need to get over yourself. You've chosen to get involved in a religious discussion, and then whined above that people were downvoting you. You've been condescending and insulting to those who've bothered to reply. If you really want logical arguments, you have to be willing to use them yourself… and "Apparently you are not "limited" by "mortal logic" either" isn't logic.
This rabbi calls himself a man of God? Only a true MORON HYPOCRITE could make a state like that!
Of the four you mentioned, all but Dilfer played a substaintial role in their respective championships. They may not have had hall of fame careers but were still very productive. And while a dominant defense can carry a tema all the way every know and then it is a very rare occurence. And now with the rules being more and more absurdly biased towards the offenese, it's even less likely to happen.
Well, the Major absolute is that we all die. The 2nd Absolute is how to be allowed into Heaven after death.
Then, the next one, is to: "Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit"
The other coming absolutes have to do with the coming mid-east wars, and the 2nd coming of Christ.
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