Freedom is a Right, and Any Health Care Bill That Takes Away Americans’ Freedom is Wrong
by Rep. John Boehner (R-OH)After the conclusion of yesterday’s nationally-televised health care “summit” hosted by President Obama, in a video for YouTube’s Citizen Tube I answered five health care questions submitted and voted on by the You Tube community. The questions posed on You Tube are the same questions and concerns I hear from Americans across the country. They want to us scrap the current bill and start over with common-sense, step-by-step measures that lower health care costs. And they want to know why Congress insists on passing massive bills that no one in America has time to read or understand. My Republican colleagues and I agree a different approach is needed – not just to health care reform, but to the way Congress works on every issue.
In the video, I respond to citizens’ questions about health care reform. On one question, for example, about whether I believe that health care is a right, I said that, “I believe that freedom is a right, and that any health care bill that takes away Americans’ freedom is wrong.” I also answered questions about my support for health care reforms aimed at lowering Americans’ health care costs, such as medical liability reform and allowing Americans to purchase health insurance across state lines, and pledged I will insist on smaller, simpler bills and implement a mandatory 72-hour online reading period for all bills if Republicans are entrusted with the majority.
Over the past year, Republicans have used new media tools to interact directly with the American people. Whether on Twitter, where House Republicans outnumber their Democratic counterparts two-to-one, or YouTube, where eight of the top 10 most-viewed and most-subscribed YouTube channels in Congress are from the GOP, House Republicans are listening to and learning from the American people. Below is full text of my answers to You Tube:
“Hi, I’m Congressman John Boehner.
“First let me thank the YouTube community for submitting some very thoughtful questions and comments. My colleagues and I believe the best ideas come from you, not from bureaucrats here in Washington. This effort is just one more example of that.
“Before I get into your questions, I want to also make sure you know this isn’t the only chance you have to weigh in on the issues that are important to you and your family. Visit GOPLeader.gov to send me a message, or follow and reply to GOPLeader on Twitter. With your help, direct media is making government more transparent and accountable. Forward this video to your friends, and let’s work together to make sure Washington listens to the people.
“The first submission is from ‘Blinn’ in Illinois. Blinn says ‘All people voting on these bills should be required to personally read the entire bill before being allowed to vote on it. It is ridiculous that these bills are thousands of pages long. Bills should be written in clear language.’
“Blinn, Americans have the right to know what is in these massive bills before Congress votes on them, and if I become Speaker of the House, we’ll run the House differently – differently from the current majority and from past Republican ones. And if I become speaker, there will be a 72 hour reading period before any bill is brought to the floor. It’s part of our congressional transparency Initiative – you can check it out at GOPLeader.gov/ReadTheBill.
“But in addition to that, we don’t need to have these really big bills. We can keep these bills smaller, more targeted, so that people actually can read them and understand what they’re voting on before they come to the floor.
“Next, ‘C. Rodgers’ from Lincoln, Nebraska asks ‘Why not quit artificially limiting the market? Stop tying health insurance to employers and increase the market dramatically. Allow insurance providers to sell across state lines and increase it even more. The larger the market the lower the price.’
“This is really one of the centerpieces of our Republican health care proposal. Marsha Blackburn talked about it today at the summit. Democrats claim they’ve included it in their bill, but they really haven’t.
What they really are trying to do is say, we’ve got the same thing – buying across state lines – but only if you go to a government–run exchange with a government mandated health insurance policy that’s going to be designed by the government as well.
“Republicans believe that you should be able to buy any insurance policy across state lines and you can decide for yourself fits the needs for you and your family.
“Up next we have Pat from Chicago who asks ‘Thompson Reuters had performed a study in which they concluded that 40% of healthcare waste was from unnecessary care. Unnecessary care is primarily a result of a fear of being sued, aka malpractice. What is being done to address malpractice?’
“Well Pat, you heard today that medical malpractice is really important. And it’s not just that we reform this so that we’re not driving doctors out of states and out of communities, it’s also because of the defensive medicine that doctors practice.
“You know it was brought up today a number of times, but we never really got into the numbers. The Congressional Budget Office says that we would save $54 billion over the next ten years in the government-run programs if we had medical malpractice reform. PricewaterhouseCoopers issued a report in 2006 that said that we would save up to $125 billion over the next ten years.
“And we’ve got other reports. One that came out was a Gallup study that was done just six weeks ago, and they interviewed doctors all across the country, and a majority of doctors claimed that 26 percent of the care they give is defensive medicine. We know that if we can eliminate all of this defensive medicine that’s going on, we can dramatically lower the cost of health insurance around the country.
“Brian, a student, asks: ‘Do you believe that healthcare is a right, or that health insurance is a right?’
“We all know that if you have a health emergency in America, you have a right to be treated. It’s as clear as that. Health insurance – I’m not quite sure I’d call it a right – but we would clearly like to make health insurance affordable for more Americans. And the way to do that is to drive down costs in the current system.
“I believe freedom is a right, and any health care bill that takes away Americans’ freedom is wrong. I think Americans should have the freedom to choose their own health care, and that the government shouldn’t choose it for them.
“Finally, the number one question based on your votes comes from Chris at the University of Florida. Chris says: ‘What is the explicit reasoning behind mandating the purchase of healthcare services?’
“Well, Chris, liberals believe mandating health care coverage will lower costs. I believe that mandating coverage like this for everyone is unconstitutional. And I think there are better things we can do to lower the cost of health care and make it more affordable for all Americans.
“Well, that’s the last of the questions, but this conversation on health care is far from over. VisitGOPLeader.gov and reply to me via Twitter at GOPLeader. Thanks for watching.”
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February 24, 2010
To the Editor:
Submarines have always fascinated me. Their role in the last century cannot be overstated. From the simple man powered submarines of the civil war to the USS Nautilus’s journey under the North Pole to the modern submarines that form a critical part of the US nuclear deterrent. As over engineered as these ships are, when a torpedo hits, decisions have to be made to save the ship. Sometimes those decisions have to be made under extreme stress, and the result of the orders leads to the death of fellow crew mates. As one space fills with water, pulling the ship inexorably to the bottom, a sailor in the dry space must close the hatch to save the ship.
The United States is analogous to a submarine wounded by enemy action. Instead of an enemy firing a torpedo, we, via all of our poor political leadership have fired one upon ourselves. The political classes collective record, how ever well intentioned, has lead us here, through massive spending, borrowing, and making promises to citizens that cannot be met. Character at a point of pressure is the most important asset a leader, officer, or soldier possesses. Why? Because sometimes it is necessary to close the hatch to save the ship. The question to my mind is which party possesses the capacity to do that now.
While the collusion of both parties are to blame for our sinking ship. It is the Republican party that is desperately trying to close the hatch and save the ship. The Republican party is standing against three pieces of legislation that will forever resign this nation to a continual decline and eventual ruin. The first is commonly understood to be “health care,” this legislation will forever alter a citizens relationship to their government. If it passes medical attention will become a right that must be met by force of law. As the saying goes, if you want to make something expensive, make it free. The failure of this solution to meeting the medical needs of people is deeply felt by those who lost loved ones because the English or the Canadian governments denied vital care. Liberal Democrats have another scheme to launch on the American people this one is called “Cap and Trade” – essentially this nightmare would allow the federal government to tax a citizen when they drive, breath or turn on the light switch. Kirsten Gillibrand has personally advocated for it in the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal, I assume Senator Gillibrand expects that by creating the next Wall Street scam will lead to voluminous campaign contributions on the back of the American taxpayer. Finally, there is “Card Check,” this gem would eliminate the secret ballot from the process by which a business goes from being a non-union to a union shop. Thus, the Union leadership would be in a position to put massive pressure on those who voted “no.” Republicans have stood, and are standing against all of this – in fact on the “Cap and Trade” front Republicans have earned bipartisan opposition to it.
All the while the water is rushing into our ship and the choice must be made in nine months; will the citizens of this great nation choose to stand with the leadership of the liberal democratic party, that is trying to keep the hatch open, so we all go down, or will the American people choose to stand with the Republican party, that is trying to close the hatch? I have confidence that the American people are ready to not only support the Republican party, but help close the hatch and save the ship. America is ready to sacrifice all but our liberty and our economic freedom – this has, and will always be true, and has happened in the past, it is “We The People” leading the charge. Right now the only organized political party that has the capacity to close the hatch is the Republican party.
Faithfully Yours,
I was shocked when I heard my congressman say that the Dem's did not allow one single MD on their side to have a voice in that bill. Furthermore that only 25-30 year old aides had anything to do with it being drafted (the House version that is).
Oh Boner, blow away.
This is funny. Here is some breaking newz:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100226/us_nm/us_usa_...
Congressman,
When will you own up to the fact that you have enemies within your own party that are trying to undermine the freedom you speak about?
You have Progressives in your ranks that need to be removed from their offices. When I see some contrition and an acknowledgement that your party engaged and still engages in the same nonsense the Democrats, who have been hijacked by those same Progressives, then your words will have weight. As such, they fall on deaf ears. People will vote for you to get rid of Obama, but not to solve the problem.
Do you kiss Obama with that mouth? Typical leftist-indoctrinated kid – nothing to say, just go right for the degradation.
I applaud Maximum Leader Boehner for his courageous stance against the dreaded prospect of a facisto-socialist health care system. I look forward to his proud announcement that he and his family have dropped all coverage provided by the government-subsidized Federal Employees Health Benefit Program, which is an action that any true patriots would take.
10-4, but they have got religion now. McCain is facing a close primary that will give him more religion. Nothing like fear to sharpen a politicians senses.
John,
I saw you make some very pointed statements to the president and he said he would come back to your comments later. By later, do you think he meant after the next election cycle?
Funny. Even funnier: If you think that Congress is trying to give you what they get in terms of health care, you're a fool.
Mr. Boehner,
Just curious when you and the rest of the Rep party will get a spine? You guys are no different than the other side you run your mouths about how bad things are BUT what have YOU done? Did you scream out in session and bring proceedings to a halt? Did you organize a walkout at the health summit yesterday? We the people all know it was nothing but a patronizing show orchestrated by his majesty BHO better yet the three stooges after complaints about transparency and opening debate up to the public.
Did you tell Mr. Reid after he thundered away about reconciliation being used more by rebubs, that the repubs never used it to radically change the US and take over a major element of our economy. Did you correct him on that? NO, you just sat there while the king, b/c he can and no smile came from his face when he commented about how much time he can use, and his court fired away.
Do us all a favor Mr. Boehner, you and the rest of the DC Rep. inept either grow a spine or a set of b___s and physically do something (walkout, bring govt to a halt) vs the daily rants, should I say whining, we are oh so tired of.
You see you are all doing the same things over and over again expecting a different out come with this power hungry Pres and Congress, which is INSANE. The last guy and his predecessors were no better but this guy, your boss, is in overdrive to create something WE DO NOT WANT! Your tactics do not work, the American people are tired of it all from both sides, did you not see the CNN poll results today, that DC, is considered a threat to the citizens rights?
Go read the Constitution, words of our founding fathers and really do something or stand down and let someone who is ready to truly take them on in! Maybe you haven't realized but the old piece of paper called the Declaration of Independence was pretty much those men signing their own death warrant if what they planned failed? Can you do that? Are your ready to do that? If not get out of our way WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
To my fellow Patriots reading this I ask what are you prepared to do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F452KybPEnQ ? This is the question you must seriously ask yourself! Don't play their game… STOP and play your game through http://www.savingtherepublic.com
Mr. Boehner,
Just curious when you and the rest of the Rep party will get a spine? You guys are no different than the other side you run your mouths about how bad things are BUT what have YOU done? Did you scream out in session and bring proceedings to a halt? Did you organize a walkout at the health summit yesterday? We the people all know it was nothing but a patronizing show orchestrated by his majesty BHO better yet the three stooges after complaints about transparency and opening debate up to the public.
Did you tell Mr. Reid after he thundered away about reconciliation being used more by rebubs, that the repubs never used it to radically change the US and take over a major element of our economy. Did you correct him on that? NO, you just sat there while the king, b/c he can and no smile came from his face when he commented about how much time he can use, and his court fired away.
Do us all a favor Mr. Boehner, you and the rest of the DC Rep. inept either grow a spine or a set of b___s and physically do something (walkout, bring govt to a halt) vs the daily rants, should I say whining, we are oh so tired of.
You see you are all doing the same things over and over again expecting a different out come with this power hungry Pres and Congress, which is INSANE. The last guy and his predecessors were no better but this guy, your boss, is in overdrive to create something WE DO NOT WANT! Your tactics do not work, the American people are tired of it all from both sides, did you not see the CNN poll results today, that DC, is considered a threat to the citizens rights?
Go read the Constitution, words of our founding fathers and really do something or stand down and let someone who is ready to truly take them on in! Maybe you haven't realized but the old piece of paper called the Declaration of Independence was pretty much those men signing their own death warrant if what they planned failed? Can you do that? Are your ready to do that? If not get out of our way WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
To my fellow Patriots reading this I ask what are you prepared to do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F452KybPEnQ ? This is the question you must seriously ask yourself! Don't play their game… STOP and play your game through http://www.savingtherepublic.com
good riddance…
Well now Congressman Boehner: Yesterday I called your office on behalf of the SBA (Susan B Anthony List) it took awhile to get through, but I did. Then I waited for you to speak at the HC summit, because as you know we were told that you were going to talk about the abortion issue. And when you did finally get the chance to speak, you were blown off by obama. In my opinion you were NOT forceful enough to make our concerns about abortion relevent. I am very dismayed about this, as i'm sure the many members of the SBA are also!!!!!
McCain should stop playing games and just join the democrat party already.
I'm so stunned by your masterful command of rhetoric.
/sarc
Too bad you don't actually have any counter argument. Typical ignorant lefty, smear what you can't adequately attack with reasoned thought of your own.
I'll make it simple for you to answer the question of whether or not health care is a right.
If it imposes an obligation on someone else in order for you to have it, it isn't a basic right. You have every right to do whatever you can to keep yourself healthy, but when you start seeking treatment, you are seeking a service provided by a professional. You have no inherent right to demand that service from another. To say that you do is tantamount to allowing slavery to exist in our nation again as no one who provides a right to others could ever truly be free again.
It long past the time where we stop putting our heads in the sand and think that the 2 party system can continue without balance. It's idiocy and insanity not to see that they mimick each other. Conservatives do not control the Republican party anymore. John McCain is just a glaring example of this, and there are others of his ilk that are in the party and are undermining progress.
Amen. I think that as this whole debacle moves forward, we will see who in the Republican Party is still worthy of the title and who is not. We need to base our decision on not only what they are doing now, but also upon the record of what they have done in the past. Given that information, I fully trust that the American people are wise and fair enough to make the right choices come November. I don't expect perfection, but I'm shopping for something as close to it as I can find!
McCain needs to go. I respect the man, but not his Progressive ideology. We have to get all the Progressive sout.
Here is my question John: If it is known by all that there is egregious waste and fraud in the Medicare and Medicaid healthcare systems, why do we need a bill to start to correct the problem? This is "crime" and the violators should have been pursued and punished all along. This makes no sense and why we don't believe government.
I very much like the anology!!
Is Rep. Boehner going to visit President Obama in Leavenworth?
Yeah, yeah. We get it. You hate Republicans. I suppose all blacks are alike too, right? Look. If you have identified the Progressive sappers within the GOP, name some names and target them at the voting booth. Quit smash-mouthing decent people trying to do a good job for you. This is why good people don't want to get involved in politics. Too many ignoramuses blaming them for what someone else did because they aren't smart enough to figure out what the real deal is.
If you don't want Progressives in office, just stop voting for them! It's really that simple!
why do a we have a right to a lawyer but not to affordable health care?
Your name is apt.
Here here, fellow patriot!
as far as i know one has a right to a lawyer if arrested. public defenders must defend them at no cost. your argument seems to fall apart.
This will be worked out in the primary process – McCain has a good shot at losing. Hayworth has the communication skills, and the voting record, little light on money but he is gaining. The "tea party" is best expressed at primary time – not at election time – it only serve to elect the liberal candidate if deployed then. Think this through a bit, if used as the weapon it is it can serve as one hell of a political force.
I just read that the Dems are going to push the bill through, regardless of Republican support…should they do that via Reconciliation, THERE WILL BE RIOTS IN THE STREETS…and the Dems will not see a single vote for at least 10 years…I'm seriously thinking of moving my family out of this country should this debacle pass….
"If it imposes an obligation on someone else in order for you to have it, it isn't a basic right."
Well then, your so-called "right" to be alive isn't a basic right. Honoring it would impose upon me an obligation not to stab you in the throat. How dare you!
You're really getting old with your same rantings. What the hell is your point? Really? Do you continue to tout the two party system because it's safe for you? They are both selling this country down the river, and your perfectly willing to go down with the ship!
I don't hate Republicans, your assertion is specious. I've never been a part of any party because of the same nonsense that has gone on for years. I have enough intelligence to vote for people on principle, not on a D or and R, and I really get tired of people such as yourself who can't argue the point!
Don't wax indignant about my opinion. You have your own, however flawed, and I'm willing to let you spout it, but I will call you out everytime you are off base, just like this one.
I'm not a Progressive, so I'm not all that interested in \”progress\”. I'm more concerned about the Constitution and personal freedom. You talk about balance in the 2 party system like there are only two parties involved. You blame D's and R's when you should be focused on the \”P's\”. If you have issue with a particular politician, fine. Target them and not their entire Party. It's Progressives we want to get rid of, not our entire political system. At least that's what I want. I have no idea what your agenda is from the way you are talking.
If you are in legal trouble the opposing side has a lawyer. You will need one too to help make the trial fair.With health care, there is no "opposing side" trying to make you sick. Your health is your responsibility. If you agree to be put under strict regulation regarding your diet, exercise, sleep habits, career path, relationships and almost every aspect of your life, THEN you might be able to argue for a "right" to "affordable" health care", but you'd be a lab animal, so why would you be so concerned about health care? Isn't freedom more important?
That it is. We have the weight of the Republic behind us, and we will not stop until it is restored.
I think that we should just allow people to become indentured servants.
You want free stuff? Welfare? Free clinics? Food stamps? OK, you're gonna work this job for this wage for this amount of time. Sign here.
There is no "free stuff".
My agenda is this; to restore a free and innovative constitutional republic, blessed by God, and protected by the willing. That's it.
Goo,
I happen to agree with you. For what it's worth.
By all means, please enlighten me. It took you 3 paragraphs to tell me you don't like my opinion and to screw off. I'd like to know just exactly where you think I have it wrong and you have it right…because I am not seeing it at all.
I'm trying to do this – because I really do not want to run for office. But I will if I have to.
I agree with your sentiments.
Here's one response. Boner says health care is not a right. I say it is.
Here's another response. "Tort reform" would reduce health care costs by approximately .5%.
Here's another response. Allow health insurance to be sold interstate as long as there is uniform national regulation.
Here's another response. Eliminate health care insurers, which spend as much as 30% of the premium dollar for things other than health care, and you automatically achieve substantial savings.
Boner is not a serious guy and doesn't deserve a serious response. But I gave you one.
I appreciate that, and it is worth much to me.
That is where you might be wrong.
To the Democrats way of thinking, if they can pass this, they will be guaranteed votes for the next 100 years.
Congressman Bonhner,
You are a fraud.
You statement "as medical liability reform and allowing Americans to purchase health insurance across state lines" is utter nonsense and you know it.
Medical liability is1% of health care costs. And the reform in Texas is an epic failure.
And you can sell insurance across state lines today.
You are a liar.
It is exactly garbage like this that has hoodwinked your voters into voting against their own best interest.
Shame on you.
You are right in the sense that we have to exercise our votes. We have no disagreement. Identify and remove those from power who are Progressives, and take them out of the political picture.
Where you are wrong is that this has to be done within the two party system. The TPM is the most organic political movement in the past 50 years, and it consists of mostly independent voters. People like me are TIRED of the 2 party system dictating where the country goes.
Your last post was a personal attack, so I returned in kind. I will not back down from a fight, and I don't care if we are basically on the same side or not. It was uncalled for.
Ah, but the right to attorney is Constitutional because it appears in the 6th amendment. I don't see health care in any amendment.
I can live without any help from anyone else. My life is self-contained within me.
What you're describing is a violation of my right to life. That is generally what murder is.
Boehner,
Thankyou for having the courage to stand up for our rights. You have done a fantastic job of standing up for the rights of all Americans and I applaud you for that. Please encourage other republicans to have the courage to speak what they know in their hearts is right.
That may be their way of thinking…with all of their "Hahhvahhd" degrees…but real Americans, those who work hard for what they want, but respect what they've got, think a different way. This bill is discriminatory to us American citizens who don't live in Florida, Nebraska, Louisiana, those of us who don't have gov't jobs, and those of us who aren't part of a Union. That last part is what reallllllllly makes my blood boil. Unions are good for nothing, and their leaders are all corrupt…every single one of them…
You sir are a fraud.
Tort reform in TX has led to doctors flooding the state and subsequently increasing our access to health care. I watched first hand one of my own clients, a doctor, medical malpractice insurance cut in half. And to suggest we can buy health insurance across state lines is not only ill informed but arrogant. Do you really think republicans are making this suggestion because the problem doesn't exist. Your dillusional.
Well, Joe. Having read your initial post, I think we are on the same page. While it was a little long-winded, it did seem to be pretty spot on. The Republicans are the Spartans trying to hold back the Persian hordes (the proglib faction of the Democrat Party) at the gates. **For the less mentally nimble among us, you will notice I did not paint the entire Democrat Party with my "proglib" brush.
Those that are fighting the good fight need and deserve our full support.
No argument here.
I say health care is not a right.
If you only consider lawsuit insurance. You conveniently ignore all the tests ordered to avoid lawsuits.
When the government writes the policies, sets the prices, the government is running health care.
I would agree with this last one. We should carry health insurance only against catastrophic illness: sudden major trauma, cancer and other major diseases, ruinously expensive medications, etc. All other coverage (routine check-ups, routine medications, minor illness and injury, etc.) should be paid for out of pocket and via expanded HSAs. You're right that there would be big savings. But the Obama bill doesn't do that.
He and Arlen Specter could start a Canasta team.
It's in Amendment 6 of the COTUS. Health care is not.
Wow, the trolls are already out in force. The summit yesterday made their side look bad and they know it.
The Constitution says we have the RIGHT to LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS!!!
So I am alive because I have that RIGHT!!!! GOD GIVEN BY THE WAY!!!!!!
Congressman John Boehner…
Thank you for your comments to this new media medium.
I'd like to thank you for your defense of ending defensive medicine and state mandates that restrict policies people can purchase. Tax deductions on individuals to buy healthcare is great too. One question:
Since the government has severely increased the cost of healthcare paperwork, do you believe this bill "helps" in any real way to secure patient privacy? Would you favor revising or repealing HIPAA and other expensive government healthcare compliance bills that run up costs? Or is "HIPAA" just too popular with people who think it gives something for nothing?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Por...
Also, for CORBA, we could scrap that if we had individual health insurance mandate, right? Deregulation is a proven method of reducing costs in the long term, if done right.
The Democratic Party will not have McCain – he is not a communist.
Just as I suspected, you advocate destroying the 2 party system. Even Glenn Beck is not that radical in his positions. As for personal attacks, your original post on this thread was a personal attack against me and my beliefs. I, also will not let such a slander go unchallenged. The difference between us is that I do not use embellishments and gross over-exaggerations to make my case. As far as I am concerned, a 3rd party would be just as destructive to our form of government as the Progressives are.
If want to discuss our differences logically, I would be happy to oblige. If, however, you merely want to rant emotionally…we will have to agree to disagree and move on.
I meant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_Omnibus...
COBRA, which like many bills is a long bill that says much and costs much and provides little to the public.
Certainly, keeping insurance after losing a job is something the individual mandate would accomplish better, cheaper, and using less regulations. As a contractor, I received dozens of mis-printed cobra coverage sheets which were perfectly useless to me as the insurance rates were much higher and not tax-free. I simply had to find another job quickly, and pay out of pocket until then.
If the leadership of the parties refuse to solve the problem, then the party needs to be put on notice that they are going down with the wrong ship.
I blame the parties for not taking care of this cancer sooner, because they are complicit in habouring them. The Republicans are not taking care of the problem in their own party. The Dermocrats have been taken over by the Progressives, and the Republican party will too, if they do not root these people out, in advance of our votes. They run the risk of losing their seats if they don't.
Classic portrayal of Conservative Logic versus Liberal Emotion right here, folks.
Even better because meatbrain apparently brought a knife to a gun fight.
Future Speaker Boehner,
I have faith that there will be a glorious new era of conservatism, and the unprofessional display of arrogance on the part of President Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid is only fueling that reality. You and your fellow Republican participants at the summit were exemplary in exposing them as simply being unworthy of being in charge of anything.
Anon, you are ill-informed and a coward to not register.
You say health care is not a right and offer your ideas. I disagree. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine. So what's the point of having a substantive discussion? What's the point of the Dems and GOPers even talking? If the Dems have enough votes to pass their fairly lame bill, you lose. Tough. If the GOPers can block it, you win. High fives all around on the "freedom" side.
I say you're an idiot. I'm absolutely right.
Health care insurers spends as mush as 30% of the premium dollar on the people they employ, buildings which they work in, and equipment they use. If the government can do all of that too, at a much hihger cost with less efficiency.
Holy crap! Are you too stupid to think that national regulations wouldn't be apply?
Tort reform will reduce the burden each doctors because their malpractice insurance premium will be reduced, there for redicing cost by much more than 5%.
Like I said, you're an idiot.
Health care, cap-n-tax etc. are just symptoms of the lack of a participating and aware citizenry isn't it?
I mean how many Americans even question the governments right to take and redistribute as they see fit?
Take care of that little issue and about 90% of the other ones go away.
The great thing is that if Obama and crew keep it up they are going to go down in history as the crew that saved the republic by trying to destroy it, God does apparently have a sense of humor!
Read my words very carefully:
The parties will be their own undoing. I am not advocating the destruction of anything. They will do it to themselves if they don't wise up. The Republican party has a chance of saving themselves if they can see what the real issue is.
I am not even going to dignify the final part of your first pargraph because it is so off base.
I am not ranting emotionally. You haven't begun to see that, and God help you if you do.
If that's truly what you believe, then why do you even bother to post here where you know that likely 90% of the posters are going to disagree? You, yourself, admit that you believe that nothing will be changed.
By the way, so you disgree, but you decline to discuss why and how. If you want a real dialogue on the issue you have to go further than "I disagree." I gave you reasons for my disagreement.
that was funny
I agree with you, too. Too many times, we have elected congresscritters who talk and talk and then walk a far different walk. I want more people who are going to practice what they preach when they get into office.
Yeah right. Tort reform has worked in Texas.
Texas has the highest percentage of uninsured in the country you dolt.
God you people are stupid.
It is not up to the party leadership to fix this problem. It is up to the voter's to solve it. The RNC and the DNC are nothing but intermediaries between the people and the legislators who represent them. The Caucus' job is nothing more or less than to pass along the constituents wishes and to maintain the wording of the party's principles. If a legislator does not live up to those principles, it is up to the People, not the Caucus, to deal with them. If anyone has not been doing their job in all of this, it is We The People who have been slacking.
Great, tan, John!
Health Care is NOT a right, Our rights come from our creator, I must have missed where he created Adam, Eve and Dr Joe to care for them..
You have a right to buy the best health care policy you can, and you have a right to seek out the best Doctors and Hospitals but you DON'T have a right to ask your neighbor to PAY for it !!!
Will there be reconciliation?
As an American, I choose Freedom as opposed to a free ride. I prefer to manage the state of my own affairs, rather than life under an oppressive nanny state. When liberty has found her way back home to America, then we can start to restore our country to prosperity.
Leader Boehner, Thank you for your tireless work on behal of Freedom and Equality for Americans! You did a great job at the Summit. All of the Republicans were so well prepared and the presentations gave us great hope. We are routing for you to keep up the fight. We are making phonecalls and trying to support your good work.
The Republicans exhibited all of the substance, and the Dems had nothing but sob stories and socialist anger!
You Win! TeaPartyNurse, NJ
Mr. Boehner –
I am disappointed that you did not, after the first few minutes of the meeting yesterday, with the camersa running, stand up and order your delegation from the room while calling bullsh!t on the entire process. I can envision a statement along the lines of "look Barack, this is more of the obfuscation and lies you have been trying to peddle for a year now. When you are ready to get serious about tort reform, insurance portability, buying insurance across state lines, and coverage for illegals among other things come on over to the hill and we'll have a discussion. Until that time you and yours are going to answer to the American people on your own. Good day sir"
4 words: WATERLOO!
Double Ditto!
Hell yeah! Excellent call to action!
Good luck, where would you go? America is the las bastion of liberty it the world and there are many out there, including some of our so-called friends, who wish to see it fall. They are incapable of rising out of their mire so seek to drag us into it.
When we get rid of the illegals that percentage will drop considerably.
I would like/insist that if any government mandated healthcare is passed that all members, past, present and future, of congress, the senate and all government services being covered by it the same way that the public will be forced to. Anything less I would consider criminal.
Idiot troll parrots Lib talking points well.
I cannot by insurance in another state.
Reform in TX is NOT a failure but is negatively affected by Fed regulation.
Your 1% number is bogus and comes from an obscure study done in the '80s.
Find some new talking points.
another question…… there guy……..????
I noticed that, too. That was a deliberate attempt to keep you from being heard. He showed his arrogance & his egotistical side to me. This man is so egotistical that he cannot learn anything & has no idea what being a President is or what they are suppose to do. He is still no more then a community organizer & thinks the government is suppose to give everything to the poor.
If only that Rio Grande was like the Mississippi, the uninsured in Texas would be what there…anon???
He is still no more then a community organizer & thinks the government is suppose to give everything to the poor. Instead of helping people get on their feet he tries to keep them down & unsuccessful so they are easier to lead down the road of his command. Just like those programs of his, like I will loan the money to those that want to go to college but when they get out they have to work for the government for 5 years. Then we got Disney going along with this about doing some job for your community & you will get a free day at Disney. Wal-mart, Kaiser, Duke Electric, all kinds of businesses have joined in with him & I haven't really understood that yet. Especially Wal-mart because they have always fought against unions, are they going to start letting them in now? So many things I do not understand. One thing that really bothers me is Lindsey Graham signing on with Kerry on Cap & Trade which he knows we cannot afford. Now it has been proven wrong & the scientist that helped Gore & put out false information has admitted there has been no global warming for 15 years.
Canasta? Parcheesi? How about some Mille Bournes?
How true.
Get the hell out of the way Grandma I want my health care now.
That right Obama Boi?
The party is just as much responsible as the voter to protect it's banner from the infiltration of those who go against its principles. What do you have leadership for?
The people have been slacking, but that does not remove the responsiblity for the party to take care of it's business.
George Washington wanted nothing to do with the parties, and we should live our lives in the same manner. Vote principle.
Thirded!
(Yeah, I know, but I'm hoping it will catch on.)
If you believe in the "creator" that's your right. Personally, I find Jack in the Beanstalk a more credible story. But I don't base policy arguments on Jack or his story. And I'm not swayed at all by "creator"-based arguments.
I'd respond, but your post is really too incoherent to respond to. Have a nice day.
You racist!!!!!!???????????
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