“Gifted Hands” Surgeon Rips Into Obamacare
by John BerlauAs the Senate Finance Committee completed its work on a bill that would greatly expand the government’s role in health care – requiring nearly everyone to buy insurance, and designing that insurance through subsidies and mandates – President Obama is trying to rally doctors to his side. At an event last week at the Rose Garden, phalanxed by doctors wearing their white coats (as well as some that White House staffers had handed out), Obama declared, “nobody has more credibility with the American people on this issue than you do.”

Dr. Benjamin Carson receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom
Yet one of the nation’s top surgeons, with credibility and acclaim the world over for the pioneering surgeries he has and his personal story of overcoming hardship, recently ripped the dominant health care legislation before Congress in a critique similar to that of conservatives and libertarians. Benjamin Carson, director of pediatric neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions in Baltimore, Md., and recipient of numerous awards including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, criticized in a recent interview the approach of the current bills for their mandate, creation of a “public option,” and lack of malpractice liability reform.
“My biggest problem is I feel it’s going in the wrong direction,” Carson told reporters at TV station WLOS in Asheville, N.C. (Video here.)“It’s giving us more government and less autonomy. And I think we should be going in exactly the opposite direction. We should be having more autonomy and less government. And that is the kind of thing that brings the prices down.”
Considered one of the best neurosurgeons in the world, Carson gained acclaim in the ’80s and ‘90s for his pioneering operations separating conjoined twins joined at the head and other procedures that have saved children from epilepsy and brain cancer. But Carson is also celebrated for his personal story of overcoming poverty and prejudice. An African-American, Carson grew up in a single-parent home Detroit ghetto, but his mother pushed him and his brother to achieve excellence. He is the author of the popular autobiography “Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story,” which was made into a TV movie this year with Cuba Gooding Jr. portraying Carson. And he does much philanthropic work through charities such as his “Carson Scholars” fund.
Over the past few years, Carson has been writing and speaking more about public policy, including health care reform. He has railed against excessive litigation, pointing out how much malpractice insurance and other forms of “defensive medicine” to protect against lawsuits add to medical costs. In the interview with WLOS, Carson insisted that tort reform must go “hand in hand” as part of any true health care reform.
“We have to bring a rational approach to medical litigation,” he said. “We’re the only nation in the world that really has this problem. Why is it that everybody else has been able to solve this problem but us? Simple. Special interest groups like the trial lawyers’ association. They don’t want a solution.”
Carson also blasted proposals backed by Obama and most Democrats that would create a government-backed “public option,” saying it would inevitably lead to a “single payer” system like that of Canada, in which the government as the sole insurer would end up calling all the shots for patients. He pointed to how the Canadian government itself crowded out private insurance. “What happened to the private insurance companies in Canada? Just like that, they were gone, because they couldn’t compete with it (the government). Now, why would it be any different here? That’s one of the things that disappoints me about the lack of honesty … We can’t really debate when there’s all this subterfuge.”
Carson said that despite the problems with American health care, Canada and European countries were not models to emulate in their health insurance financing systems. “All we have to do is go to other places and see what’s going on. See how long people have to wait. Very, very long waiting periods. Why do you think so many people from Canada come here when they have a problem? I know a young man in England who has a problem with his knee. He needs an operation, and the waiting list is so long. … These are the kind of things that people in this country are not used to. But more importantly, it’s something that we don’t have to get used to. We can fix this without going to that kind of system that causes those kinds of long waits.”
As his main “fix”, Carson proposes a system of patient empowerment in which “individuals and families can own their own insurance; it doesn’t have to be through their employer.” Not all of Carson’s ideas expressed in the interview were free-market, though. He did propose that the government set insurance rates, and cover patients’ catastrophic costs above $250,000
Above all, Carson was adamant that there transparency and deliberation, rather than a rush to force through a health care bill that no one had read. In fact, he proposed bringing health care to a national vote of the American people “I would say we should have a national referendum on it. People should be able to vote. That would really work, because now, people would have to explain it. They would have to know what was in it. When we do these big sweeping national things and just sort of jam them through and nobody even knows what’s in it, that’s not democracy. At some point, someone has lost their ideal of what democracy is.”
Carson’s colleagues at Hopkins – ranked by U.S. News and World Report for 19 years as the nation’s best overall hospital and lauded for the millions it spends on charity care for the poor –have also voiced concerns about the direction that health care legislation is going. Citing the cuts to hospitals to pay for the goal of universal coverage – cuts of more than $150 billion in Medicare and Medicaid payments to hospitals, according to the Congressional Budget office “preliminary analysis” of the Max Baucus’ Senate Finance Committee bill – the Hopkins officials have been warning about severe stress on Hopkins and other hospitals that Hopkins and other hospitals would face.
At a Sept. 18 “town meeting” on the campus of the main hospital in Baltimore, Md., Johns Hopkins Institutions Director of Federal Relations Beth Felder was blunt about the cuts in reimbursements. “That is going to come out of hospitals and health systems,” she said. “I think that’s not a good thing for us.” Similarly, Johns Hopkins Medicine health system CEO Edward Miller told C-Span on Sept. 16 that cuts in the reimbursement rates for Medicare and Medicaid, “There are going to be less physicians that will care for these patients.”
(Research Assistant Jonathan Moore contributed to this article.)





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Where are those that would hear the voice of wisdom . . .
Well there it is… "trial lawyers" don't want a smart, common sense solution. I feel dirty even indirectly paying those bastard's bills…
Tex, to quote a Barry-Oh voter, "we be they"…
Obviously Doctor Carson is a racist.
When will someone in Washington who has principles stand up and say I am done playing the progressives game …
Thank you for featuring prominent doctors on this divisive issue on healthcare and big government. Keep it up. Everybody should contribute big and small to defeat all politicians for big government.
When someone who has principles gets to Washington.
This is what your health care system looks like without tort reform: http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/06/obama-plan-ca...
If I heard correctly, I believe GB is going to have an audience of doctors on this Friday's show.
The people still have a voice. Don't keep sending these clowns back to Washington. Get a list of all of our so called "public servants" who pushed this health care down our throats and vote them out of office, starting with the white house. They want change, lets give them change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is Al Sharpton telling us he isn't qualiified to do surgery?
Most docs are in business. That means they see liberalism as a source of problems and not solutions.
'Defensive medicine' is the difference between my dog's recent trip to the vet for a cutaneous infection on his toe ($40 for office visit and antibiotics) and my husband's recent trip to the doc and then ER for a cutaneous infection from a sliver in his finger ($540 for ER). MD wanted to culture husband's infection for MRSA (no indication that it was anything other than garden-variety infection), so MD sent dear husband to ER because he didn't have a culture kit for MRSA. There my husband sat for hours with scores of hacking people in the waiting room. He had eaten no food all day, so he promptly passed out when he was finally being seen by a physician's assistant…out came the oxygen, pulse oximetry, and heart monitor. An hour or so later he was discharged, and in the end the MD prescribed the exact medication (cephalexin) at the exact dose for the exact duration as my dog had received from the vet. Both dog and husband recovered from their infections just fine. And we wonder why our health care costs are so high?!
Dr. Carson and his personal and professional life stories are inspirational. HIs history transcends the usual PC categories (age,race, gender,etc) and gives his opinion on the forthcoming Obama-Care more importance, than that of the Lab Coat Liberals that gathered in the Rose Garden last week. GB has a show, this week, with doctors who aren't Obama sycophants. Let's see what they have to say
First of Maureen, MRSA infections in the community are on the rise and most infections seen in the ER now adays are MRSA. So if they didnt culture it and your husband didnt get better on that treatment you would be complaining about them not culturing it. plus what vet do you go to? only 40 bucks, i want to see that vet. if your dog go more tests than the cost would be more. our health system costs so much because tests cost money and peoples expert opinions cost money. you dont complain when the plumber comes over and fixes a pipe for like 100 bucks for like 10 minutes of work. the bill might be 540, but that doc probably got paid 50 bucks to see your husband. most of the cost goes to the hospital and for tests, not to pay the person doing the work. insurance companies and Medicare reimburse the doctors about 25% to 40% of the bill that is charged. so you submit a bill for 500 dollars and you get paid 125 dollars. why do you think you have to see a patient every 15 minutes. if you take longer than that than you cant pay your staff. that and defensive medicine drives up the cost.
I have admired Dr. Carson for years. I bought his book and read it, aloud, to my two youngest children. It is a book I saved (and still own.) (And I liked the Cuba Gooding Jr. version of it that was shown a while back on TV.)
Who in their right mind would become a doctor under Obummer-care? One would become, in effect, an indentured servant to pay back the student loans needed to cover the exorbitant costs demanded by Big Education. To fill the void we will have to import more doctors from India. Or maybe use doctors trained in Grenada.
The true beauty of our system of economics is that it is organic. It evolves and grows. Good ideas become better because individuals recognize them and improve upon them. Bad ideas eventually go away unless they are artificially propped up.
You want an example? Take AT&T (please!). For years it had a monopoly on the telecommunications industry. In the 80's it was broken up. Other players entered the marketplace. The consumer benefited. The big kahuna is the "former Soviet Union". A command and control economy. Maximum government interference. You could stand in line for hours to get your single loaf of government authorized bread. Great idea, that!
Our economic system is the true celebration of the individual. Unless there is outside interference (government) it works pretty well. Sure, it can be messy and painful at times, but who said there is no pain in life?
I read this physician's book several years ago. He has a truly amazing story of hard work and dedication. He is a truly talented and unique physician who has saved and improved the lives of many children and families. Thank you for reporting on this story. This is word that needs to get out!!
Although I respect our Medical Practitioners, my late Grandmother who was a nurse in WWI said: "See a veterinarian lst." My grandparents lived on a farm and had many home remedies, which started with cleanliness 1st of all, diet 2nd, which was hard for them to accomodate at times. Nothing like a lot of fresh air and a basic diet to promote health.
Everyone should listen to this man speak. http://www.wlos.com/template/healthcare_reform/vi...
it's a long video but well worth listening to
I bet they are all RAAAACist doctors
I am sure the reason why these "racist" doctors would rather have tort reform than government intrusion is so that they can accidentally execute minorities…much better to kill the elderly and the babies.
Create a "crisis" so that the politicians can strangle a little more life and liberty out of Americans.
I will only believe it if they are wearing white coats and stethoscopes, and are carrying clipboards.
That is something that boggles my mind. I understand why trial lawyers would not want tort reform–lawsuits are their bread and butter. But if the government takes over healthcare, who do they think they will be able to sue? It won't be the doctors or insurance companies.
I think the lab coats are waiting.
Jim,
You obviously don't have a clue about medicine, and how it really works. Before you type a response, check out your facts.
1st, Medicare and Medicaid reimburse (depending on the state) about 70-83% of a charge. Your point stands, but is weakened by exaggeration.
2nd, MRSA is, despite the fear mongering, not a common infection outside of institutional settings. Most MRSA infections are acquired in hospitals, nursing homes, etc. Therefore, a simple presentation is usually treated empirically, without culture, especially a minor cutaneous infection. That the doc ordered a "MRSA test", actually a culture, is a perfect example of defensive medicine.
3rd, the cost of an office visit is not some evil mystery, "hospitals" are not Wall St. brokerage houses. There are a lot of support people, and infrastructure overhead, that that money goes to cover. The reason the bill was ridiculous was the use of an ER, the last place to be referred for a routine procedure. Better that Maureen and husband went to an outpatient clinic, where charges are much less, or better yet, a physician that keeps the proper supplies on hand in his office, so the whole referral fiasco never happened in the first place.
Maureen is right. The drug was the same, the outcome was the same, and her point is exactly on target.
Phenomenal care is routine here, including many of the finest cutting edge institutions on the planet. Insurance companies, Hospitals, Pharma, med schools, R&D, pre-med universities, even a significant portion of the legal industry for obvious reasons. They employ educated, dedicated people who buy everything from homes to day care, to takeout; donate to charities of every kind; pay taxes employing teachers, police, firemen, government. I can't find anyone in the field who supports government health care. They're quite disturbed and worried. They care about their patients, and will not provide poor care. Nor will they compromise their worth. Why should they? Your life has a value. Let's see what kind of people we get for cut-rate healthcare. See if you want them to treat your family. Canadians at my doctor's office haven't relocated thousands of miles by desire to leave their home. They came to get something we have, a doctor's appointment, and because they say "you get what you pay for". In Canada, that would be "nothing".
Will the left call him racist, too?
What in the world gives you that idea? Where in the article is race even mentioned?
I have come to believe that it is the ones who bring up RACE that are racist……………..
Jimmy Carter and Bill Cosby told me. (Among others)
If we are all forced to pay for health insurance from the govt. and you cant aford it and dont pay the govt. will fine the individual 750, so poor people will become indebted to the govt. further impoverishing people. I've been in debt to my local govt. for property taxes and was hit on day one of being late with a 25% penalty on the amount owed. Where im from its illegal for private enterprise to penalize indebtness at this level yet the govt. is allowed to enforce outrageous penalties. being indebted to the govt. is a horrible position to be in. Looks to me like another way to steal my hard earned money by a bunch of do nothing losers of the political class.
get over yourself. please.
“He did propose that the government set insurance rates, and cover patients’ catastrophic costs above $250,000″
Price controls…why not just have “comparative effectiveness” boards, it would have the same effect, rationing.
I’m happy to see Dr. Carson advocating individual control over health purchasing decision, but he needs to accept all the implications of a free market approach: not everyone will be protected from catastrophe. Not everyone will be better off. But on the whole, a system of free exchange between health providers and consumers will be better for us as individuals and for the prosperity of our nation.
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Get over myself?
Oh they will just call him an "Uncle Tom" and pretend he was never a good Dr. to begin with. Let the smear job begin.
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Here's my response to the Ben Carson article:
- agreed that doctors need relief from outrageous malpractice costs; he should push for that if he wants it
- I'd rather have a wait and get the coverage than be turned down cold by rich fats cats I didn't elect.
- government capping the cost of health insurance sounds like a great idea for those who can afford the amount under the cap; let's push for it
- many people are in dire need NOW for an option that will cover them; both those with and without insurance have nowhere to go after being denied coverage without a public option
- I'm sure a national vote/referendum on the issue would produce support for a public option; let's try it.
- I'm sure I agree on the cuts to hospitals, Medicare, and Medicaid in the flawed Max Baucus bill (not sure about the particulars on that).
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Well-written and well-research article. Another good argument against Obammunism, and uncovered by the MSM. If it were covered, the MSM would be interviewing the hate-peddlers like Sharpton and Jackson, who would probably make up some lies about Dr. Carson to try to discredit him. He is black and conservative, so he's on double secret probation already.
I saw that presentation of the Medal of Freedom and was so proud of him, and I agree with the earlier poster who liked the Cuba Gooding Jr. movie about him.
Go back where you're from!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr. Carson is the best person ever. I am a 10 year old girl and I rented six books on Ben Carson. One day I wish to be as brave and successful. My friend's mom works with ben carson and I am still, since third grade trying to get an autograph. I am going to still going to study ben.
Really?! Do you know any trial lawyers? To whom will you complain when a physician kills one of your family members because he was sloppy in his work? Should there be a way of helping a widow and children survive when they lose the breadwinner because of a doctor's gross negligence? Should the doctor move forward, to harm others, without punishment or responsibility? Is that your proposal?
To what game would you be referring?
The AMA has been very successful in suggesting that the reason is anyone but the physicians who charge way too much. They blame the insurance companies and the malpractice attorneys. The truth is, we need all three. And all three may need some reform. The physicians shouldn't be able to gouge the public as they do (if there is any question about that, check the prices in Canada next time you go there and see a physician), the insurance companies should not be allowed to gouge the doctors, and there should be a way of punishing doctors who kill people because they are inept, providing for the family survivors, without bankrupting the rest of us.
Still, it American physicians live a very posh lifestyle and have a very strong lobby to protect that lifestyle. They do overcharge the public–and blame everyone else. My sister is a nursing professor in Canada–she is appalled at the price gouging that occurs here. The cost of medical care and pharmaceuticals here is huge. But–the docs there don't receive high wages. And, btw–according to my sister, who has been in both environments,–the quality of care there is on a par with the quality of care we receive here. I'd be willing to give it a try to see if we can provide the level of care that other civilized nations do–but the morph will be long and difficult.
I respectfully disagree with your Canadian "horror story". My sister is a nursing professor in Canada. She has worked in both environments and believes that the healthcare system here is outrageously expensive and does not work for many many people. The physicians in Canada are just as good as the docs here–but they don't go into medicine to get rich.
Doctors need relief? Frankly, I believe they are the ones sending out the bills, creating a very strong AMA lobby, advertising and seeking to cause the American public to blame everyone but themselves for the cost it requires for them to live so well.
The doctors blame the lawyers who are the ONLY place the American public can go to find relief when one of their family members is killed by an inept careless physician–and they do exist. Suddenly, the breadwinner is gone and the doctor will continue to practice with no punishment, going forth to kill another, if malpractice law goes away. Those lawyers we all love to hate are the ONLY people to whom those physicians are truly accountable. Which is why they are so hated by the industry.
Janelle, I haven't heard anyone suggest that malpractise go away, just that there be caps in place to prevent outrageous claims and settlements. By the way, you may be interested to know that the public option you cherish, will eventually lead to doctors becoming government employees. As such they will be immune from lawsuits. Be careful what you wish for.
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