Scott Brown Win Is a Victory For Bush Foreign Policy, Defeat For Ron Paul Isolationism
by Eric DonderoLost in the pre and post-election analysis out of Massachusetts has been the major policy differences between Martha Coakley and Scott Brown over foreign policy and defense. The issue garnered some attention briefly during their final debate, when Coakley erred saying terrorists “were gone from Afghanistan.” But then the attentions of the media quickly turned back to the health care debate.
In campaigning with Brown in the final days, Rudy Giuliani mapped out the battle lines: “This election will send a signal, and a very dramatic one, that we are going in the wrong direction on terrorism, and we need to change it, and change it now.” Giuliani added: Scott’s background in the military speaks volumes about his understanding of what we face. And frankly his opponent’s ignorance about the issues facing us is astounding.”
From the start candidate Brown was unequivocal on defense matters. A 30-year Veteran of the National Guard, still serving as a lt. colonel, Brown unashamedly backed the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s notable that not once did he seek to separate himself from the Bush foreign policy agenda.
He repeatedly criticized his opponent, an attorney general, for her support of Obama’s policy of trying Khalid Sheikh Muhammed in a civilian trial in New York City.
Scott Brown refusted to back away from allowing the CIA and the Military to use strong interrogation techniques, including water-boarding, after being accused of supporting “torture” by Coakley and her supporters.
In contrast, candidate Coakley took a Ron Paul almost isolationist view on foreign policy.
Coakley called for a complete and immediate pull-out of Afghanistan:
“I think we have done what we are going to be able to do in Afghanistan. I think that we should plan an exit strategy. Yes. I’m not sure there is a way to succeed.”
Coakley on her campaign website, like Paul, took a straight Anti-War in Iraq stance:
“Had Martha been in the Senate at the time, she would have voted against the Iraq invasion. It is now crucial that American troops leave the country.
Martha supports President Obama’s plan to fully withdraw from Iraq…”
I served as Congressman Ron Paul’s Senior Aide from 1997 to 2003. I can remember his early noises made to his policy advisor circle immediately after the 9/11 attacks, not to vote for the resolution to go into Afghanistan. He finally relented after much pressure from the district, and even his staff. It was his decision in 2003 not to back the President Bush and the War in Iraq that finally led to my resignation.
Looking back, with the Iraqi people fully liberated, and a stable pro-American democracy developing, we can see that George W. Bush and Rudy Giuliani were right. Ron Paul got it wrong.
Perhaps Massachusetts voters sensed that Coakley’s Ron Paul-esque approach to fighting Islamic terrorism was rather weak like Paul’s. Perhaps the seriousness of the terrorism issue, came back to the fore in the minds of these voters, after the shocking Ft. Hood shooting, followed by the Christmas Day bomber.
Yes, health care was front and center. But it is notable that voters of one of the most dove-ish of states, chose to side forthrightly with the candidate of the Bush foreign policy agenda, over Obama/Paul.
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We do not need anymore defeatist Democrats in Washington! If, as a country, we don't show, and PROVE our strength, we can never over take our enemies…and they are just waiting in the shadows, for the right time to take us down! America used to be known as the most powerful nation on the planet..that's the only way to keep our enemies from bringing their war to our soil…now, look at us! We NEED that strength and power back!!
What we don't need, are more politicians, turning the other cheek while we are being attacked! Enough already!!
Ron Paul reminds me of British loon George Galloway without tights-both obsess over 'neo-cons' while gleefully encouraging the free world to do dirty dealings with dictators.
I thank God that come 2012 Ron Paul will be too old to run.
Thank you for this true article! That's my problem with Ron Paul!
We Need the "Tea Party" to endorse or not endorse all candidates because too many people will sneak into office for the "progressive" movement, otherwise!!!!!!!
Who do I side with? defeatist democrats? or defeatist republicans?
Really? I'm typing on the fly here – too old? I hope so. He's bred another policitian I believe, his son.
Brown is a soldier. I would believe he doesn't care much for stupidity when his and others lives are on the line!!
Who cares what he actually believes?
He is a Republican – he must be 'good'.
It is amazing how Obama gets elected for being anti war and you think that the people in Mass. voted for Brown because he is pro war. You are so afraid of everything and everybody that you will give up our freedom for safety. Do you really think that you can bomb the muslim people into submission. Did you learn anything from Vietnam or the Russian invasion of Afgahnistan?
Mr. Dondero,
Thank you for the article. There were some things in it, that I was not aware of. I always admired Ron Paul on his stance against the FED, but was always put off by his dove-ish foreign policy stance.
You are right. His son, Rand Paul, a dentist is running in Kentucky for Senator Jim Bunnings seat. That race will be interesting. His Democrat opponent is Dan Mongardo.
Hate to tell you Bill, but there IS going to be a war with Islam! You're right though, it's it's a war that can not be won!
But, then that is not the agenda. Remember: Follow the money!
Republicans are making a mistake in diminishing and marginalizing Ron Paul. Conservatives and dare I say tea partiers agree with him on probably 90% of the issues, with the foreign wars the big disagreement. Why can't we have the debate about going to war within the conservative movement without bashing each other? We need the Ron Paul disciples with us to elect true conservatives and push out the progressive Dems and Republicans in Washington. It doesn't do much good to fight foreign wars when our politicians right here at home are confiscating our wealth and liberty at an alarming rate. Paul stands in the way of that. If we don't have freedom here, what are our soldiers fighting for? Who is doing more damage to America? Ron Paul for opposing foreign wars or John McCain types who supported things like amnesty and suppression of free speech (McCain-Feingold)?
PS: And it isn't even about the WAR!
how many places do we have troops?? Why are we in NATO? Thank you for making light of the minor detail of US being broke. Yes, the McCain types!!!
"Must"? No. But if the (R) or (D) is all that you know about a candidate, a vote for the (R) will get you better than a 50% return, IMHO.
That said, good on the Democrat voters in Massachusetts for putting partisanship aside, and making the better choice. It's not a decision to be made lightly. I speak from experience. I voted for Marc Dann (D) here in Ohio, and he turned out to be a lecher and a thief. My bad.
Rand is an opthamologist, not a dentist.
I'm with you Brian. We need to listen more carefully to what Dr. Paul is saying. We are overextended militarily, especially considering our precarious economic situation.
Two takes on this subject:
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?vie...
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?vie...
Brian, Brian try to focus for a moment. Even if Ron Paul occasionally swerves into the right opinion about something, he.still.crazy.
Flat Taxer, is this the East Germany national sign on your gravatar? I have it imprinted in my mind since the time I lived in Eastern Europe.
Pulling out of Afghanistan and Iraq is not defeatist. The U. S. was led into war in Iraq under lies by the Bush administration that there were WMD there. How quickly we forget. We should not be in Iraq in the first place! As far as Afghanistan goes, weren't we there under the guise of capturing bin Laden? Well guess what – bin Laden isn't in Afghanistan so what are we doing there? Is it our responsibility to go around setting up little puppet governments in Muslim countries to try to force the people in them to accept Western culture? Maybe they don't want to be Westernized. Additionally calling Ron Paul an 'isolationist' is ignorant. Isolationism is not the same as non-interventionalism. Until we can see through the smoke screen of the global military industrialists, we will continue to spend our way into oblivion in pointless, never-ending, overseas wars. One must have a deep understanding of the history of how we came to be in this mess if it is ever to be resolved.
Don't forget the brilliant policies of both W and his father in Eastern Europe. Obama threw Poland under the bus as the first thing in office.
Ron Paul is right. Sorry. I wish he wasn't. The United States is broke and will collapse from perpetually fighting undeclared wars, and one way or another, we will pay for our 50 year history of telling everybody what to do. Either we will pay after we are economically forced to withdraw, at which time they kick our asses from a terrorist perspective, or we will pay by going bankrupt and collapse internally from chronically funding armies all over the globe (the way the Romans and British did). Either way, we will lose. At this point it's inevitable. Sorry. In 1905 the Chinese were coming over here to scrub our floors. In 2020 we will be scrubbing their's. I'm surprised the smart people on this board don't know this.
As for Ron Paul people voting for Brown, they had no choice. The good outweighed the bad.
I see the proficiency badge and parachute wings on the left chest. Someone tell me the identity of the large badge on the right chest. And are those JAG pins on the lapels?
I used to be a Ron Paul supporter. As his courting of white supremacists became more evident, and his isolationist rhetoric started to echo the leftist trope of blaming the US for Islamic terror, I could not continue.
I followed "No no no no's" link, and I gotta tell you, he sound crazy to me, too.
I now understand why you guys call this biggovernment.com – you guys like big government. Ron Paul is right, totalitarian Eric Dondero is wrong.
if you want a war then do it constitutionaly not willy nilly you peolple crow about how everything is unconstitutional obama is doing but this is ok….funny how that works out
In this case, the Big Tent needs to stay BIG.
The MSM likes to accuse the Republican Party of giving up on the Big Tent. They are always wrong when they do this, because they only bring it up when the Republican Party politicians stand fast, and don't allow the 'tent' to get stretched past distortion into the left, where the MSM would like to see it. Of course, the MSM also always ignores the many times that Republican politicians HAVE supported bi-partisan legislation, and have run candidates that don't support ALL of the planks of the Party's platform, just most of them (or practically none, if it's in northern NY.)
Isolationism isn't contrary to Conservatism. Having the most advanced and well-prepared military possible, doesn't mean it's always the right choice to use it to resolve every conflict (of course not,) but not even most conflicts. "Staying out of it" is usually good policy. (Until you're in it – then you have to win it.) But, in any case, Republicans need to listen to Ron Paul and Libertarians more often – not less. The GOP needs to stay grand, in this sense, and it needs both Conservatism AND Libertarianism – and it is the Republicans' burden to has out the areas where they don't line up.
My hope is that Senator Brown Elect-MA can bring some immediate rationality to revising the rules of engagement, for safety of our troops and country, and that he continues to be an irritation under the skin of the anti-american White House and their Leftists financial supporters.
wesely clark was a soldier i guess with that argument you would like him as well
To call Eric Dondero a totalitarian is qualitatively no different from labeling as racist anyone who voted against Obama.
Seconded!
victor …..you ever notice republican hate the tea party when they call their hand, That must explain why they are trying so hard to hi jack it. to shut it up.
Yup, those are JAG pins. You get those storming the beaches in Hawaii.
I am still happy that Brown won, but another lawyer in government is bothersome to me. Look at what lawyers have done to sabotage the Constitution and the country.
The jury is out.
wow courting white supremacists….and nothing to back that up just throw out a bomd reminds me of a party in power
People were voting for gridlock. 2010 primaries are needed to change direction on interventionism.
on these pages you lie about republican success, but I sit here in the middle of your pages and expose the lies.
put country before party and register unaffilated before there is no country left..
Here is an article from that beacon of leftist propaganda, WorldNetDaily:
/sarc
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59...
the SC ruling is interesting.. I think is an attempt to protect the power of political parties as more people become more independent..
Yes it is. I have been into East Germany for a little while because what I hear from the left sounds like the DDR. I watched "Traces of Stones" a couple of weeks ago. That movie was banned by the DDR three days after it opened in 1966, and it was still horrifying to me.
I watched the “The Baader-Meinhof Complex” last night. East Germany aided and abetted that terrorist org. Here in America, Che and Mao are being idolized yet again by some of our youth.
I've watched many more East German/West German movies. It just fascinates me because the history is so recent.
I am getting ready to read "The File: A Personal History" about an American who went to the DDR to study Nazism. He later found out the Stasi had him under close surveillance with the aid of his East German "friends". He wrote about what was in his Stasi file.
Oh I would love to hear about your time in Eastern Europe, but I realize this is not the place. Dang.
Is this some kind of puppet debate? Do you have a Scott Brown doll and a Ron Paul doll? Are you playing with them as you type? Telling them what they really mean? Maybe you should get an Osama doll too. Bush and Obama are doing exactly what Bin Laden hoped for: Getting involved in a long expensive conflict to bankrupt our nation and help him recruit for HIS cause. Actually Osama probably has puppets of U.S. leaders and media figures. I am not afraid of terrorist at all. Are you? Why? What about lightning? Get off the ego trip people. If you want to fight get up and go fight. Sign up and fly right over there. Remember that as soon as you are there it will be politically correct to call you a "hero" but you'll know your just a sucker soon enough.
If the Massachusetts special election, 2010 will indeed be a vote against interventionism. It will be a vote primarily against domestic interventionism.
NCATTY: The badge is the German Armed Forces Badge for Military Proficiency. One must be physically and morally fit, pass a sports test, marksmanship, and road march to qualify. Yes, he is wearing JAG Corp insignia.
It is because Congress is made up of Cowards. Since WWII we have not fought a war that was declared by Congress but they did vote to go to war. Congress knew if they declared war and it became unpopular they could be blamed. If they mereley voted for hostilities or funding for the war they could always change thier position, as they did with Iraq, and blame the President and have Political Cover for them selves. It is Congress not the Executive that is to blame. If Congress really wanted to stop any of these wars they could have defunded it. Congress however wants it both ways and it is Congress that is to blame.
I don't know what Ron Paul thinks, but I do know what many of the Founding Fathers thought: interventionism and getting wrapped around the axle of foreign conflicts was a destabilizing factor for a democratic republic and would bankrupt it.
From Washington's Farewell Address:
"The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connexion as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop."
So was Washington some kook in favor of a weak America?
Yes. You are right.
I stand corrected.
Bingo!
My friend, you are far too intelligent, and have far too much to offer, to get bogged down with the Supreme Court ruling. The biggest looserlast week was John McCain, and deservedly so. He has done more in the past twenty years, to undermine our way of life, than any other politician.
Check out one of Ron Paul’s primary challengers. He’s been hitting Paul hard on this issue as well as Paul’s unwillingness to stand up and debate it ever since Paul challenged Ben Stein to a debate on foreign policy.
Tim Graney – http://www.graneyforcongress.com
Brian, I couldn't agree with you more.
The 'white supremacist' thing is tired and desperate. Americans are growing weary of constant war on behalf of Israel. Zionists have too much control in this country and they do not act in its best interest.
Ooops. clipped the wrong quote. That one deals with commerce, this is the one that deals with foreign entanglements:
"Europe has a set of primary interests, which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities."
Ah, the chicken hawk argument. I was wondering when that would come up.
Where did my comment go?
Will someone explain this video for those of us who are left to believe another RINO has snuck into office…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L7n8vyz0xk
Your playing their game… STOP and play your game through http://www.savingtherepublic.com
This a written statement from one of Ron Paul's constituents:
" Just got off the phone with Ron Paul… It is with a heavy heart that I must report this… The (10 minute) conversation was not a good one. I brought up the Constitution, and the 'natural born' issue, and then asked him point blank if he would be willing to submit (or at least support) an objection to the electoral vote certification on Jan 8th. He said (I'm paraphrasing), "if I did that I'd be laughed out of congress. No one is going to do that. "
So much for his rhetoric about patriotism and fighting for this country. He blows with the wind like the rest of those snivelly, wasted reps we sent to DC.
"'white supremacist' thing is tired and desperate…Zionists have to much control…"
LOL!
The FED needs an overhaul but the demonizing of the FED is stupid. Monetary systems are no longer simple commodity based systems. Even when they were who was to say what the value of any commodity was? What is gold really worth except in industrial processes hwere it has a real use? You cannot eat gold. Gold is not a medicine. Gold has no real value except what we want to put on it. The same can be said of aother commodities to.
Modern Monetary systems depend on hard to value concepts such as the stability of the country, the total economic output, and the willingness of others to trust that currency. Even though these are hard to value it is also what has allowed the creation of new wealth and new money of real value.
that is what you call proof an unsolicited donation is recruiting
What exactly is your problem with Ron Paul???
The FED has to work within this system. No matter what you might have heard it does the FED no good to either undervalue or overvalue the dollar. Too much real wealth would be lost forever if they really screw it up. The incentives for the "Insiders" is to get it right for thier own pocket books.
I do agree we need to look very carefully at how they do business but it really shows a lack of understanding of how Currency, Trade, and Economic Stability to use Strawman Arguments and use the FED as the boogyman of choice.
NOMOMONEY….EXCELLENT REPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
btw…did you see the info about IVAMU?
Ron Paul is not an “isolationist.” He is not a “dove.” He doesn’t call for disarmament and glad-handing dictators like Obama. Paul advocates a strong national defense policy. Remember Reagan? He does not support pre-emptive war and nation-building. Do not let the neocons such as this author lead you astray. They hate the tea party, but need its supporters to try to regain power.
What an idiotic statement. Congress authorized both the Afghan and Iraq wars: ergo constitutional.
Hitn, Sparky: "unconstitutional" does not equal "stuff I don''t like."
Therefore I ask you then: why did Sarah Palin support him for his re-election in AZ? I'm hoping it's because she has class and repaying him for thrusting her into her new life. There is a great buzz out there that people are very upset with her about this gesture. I say to them to hold off judgement. What say you Cowboy?
Yes.
I will always stand corrected whenever I make a misstatement, or incorrect point.
Unlike you'se people, who are always right, with your condescending attitudes,and chardonnay sippin', persimmon suckin' ways.
ArtbutusJoe…>EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!
Cracks me up what they say about Ron Paul while all along spitting out the importance of the Constitution….but they want people to do as they say not as they do. STOP VOTING FOR BIG GOV REPUBLICANS you bunch of NEOCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RON PAUL 2012!!!
Where did I use the word recruiting?
$500 is vapor when it comes to economic capital, when it comes to a national election. Ron Paul recognized its huge value as political capital, though. He knew he would alienate a sizable portion of his base if he returned the money. Instead, the campaign issued a half-hearted comment of putting the money to better use, which amounted to a "nod and a wink."
I don’t think the people of Massachusetts elected him because of foreign policy. All of the polling shows that the issues that mattered to them concerned jobs, and rejection of the health care bill. As far as Afghanistan is concerned, we cannot leave. The Taliban and other Islamic terrorists are too close to control of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons. Like it or not, we and our allies are the only thing keeping them out of their hands.
"give up our freedom for safety"
Oh, piffle. What "freedoms" have you lost, pantywaist? NONE.
"Do you really think that you can bomb the muslim people into submission?"
No. But then that's not what Pwtraeus and McChrystal are doing, either.
"Did you learn anything from Vietnam?"
Yes- that the Defeatocrats are cowards, perfectly happy to surrender in wars the Armed Forces have won.
LMAO at his white supremacist became more evident.
FACTS please. lol
REALITY CHECK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxwNbwmOfQE
One of te reasons I could never vote for a Libertarian is because while I agree with perhaps 75% of thier philosophy they always tend to go off the deep end into LaLa land and ignore reality. We do not live in the world they think we do. It is now impossible to roll back Government Involvement in many areas of life because if we did the damage caused would be unprecidented. We need real solutions on how to scale back Government and not the fantasy world they live in. As much as I do not like Party Politics it is the system we have. There is no reasonable way to eliminate the Party System so the best thing to do is to try and moderate the corrupting influence.
The Fed is a privately owne organization. Amsel Rothschild is reported to have said, "Give me control of the economics of a country; and I care not who makes her laws. Today his descendents meet twice daily in London to dictate to the world what the world price of gold will be. They also dictate what the "Federal Reserve System" will do with America’s finances.
This country should've never allowed the Fed Reserve to even be organized and created. They are not who they portray to be.
I can't quite parse what you wrote. The grammar is poor. You seem to be implying I called Ron Paul a white supremacist.
Please provide the quote.
Non-responsive.
I happen to agree with Paul regarding the drug war, BTW.
I assure you, Obama is dedicated to bankrupting the country with or without the "expensive" Afgan war.
The Porkulus bill alone spent more money than the total cost of the Iraq and Afghan wars to date. We can easily afford the cost of killing Jihadis. What better use for our tax dollars? The worthless liberal crap that accounts for most of the Federal budget?
Of course, it would be less costly if we didn't create $200M circus trials for filth like KSM. A .45 round costs less than a buck.
Copper,
Here is some good material on McCain:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
You might not like it. McCain is a born looser. That is his established track record. My opinion of the man, is less than the article's.
Sarah Palin supporting McCain? it is nothing more than the old patronage system, and politics at its best. If Palin had the "stuff" that folks thought she did, after the way the McCain camp treated her immediately after the elction, she would have told him to pound salt, and she would have swung her support behind JD. JD Haywood is McCains biggest threat right now, and a credable one.
Well he did vote for the MASS healthcare bill. Maybe his bi-partisanship is more to the left than to the right? Time will tell. Rev Manning ( a staunch hard right conservative) said in a u-tube video for everyone to vote for Coakley, as this is the only way the Dems will fall into the abyss with the healthcare passed.
By the way, fuckface- I did my time wearing Uncle Sam's wardrobe. By 9-11 I was too old to re-enlist, or I would have. So take your lame 'chickenhawk' smear and shove it.
I typed to soon as usual. I see your blog, I've bookmared it. Looks like a good one!
Ruh Pal makes me sick
Agreed, Brian. Ron Paul lays it all out pretty well here about war ( Ron Paul on the House Floor 01/22/2010 – USA is Bankrupt…) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWBhgAjPGhw
When Scott Brown was elected, we knew that a vote for true Ron Paul disciple in the race would not get enough votes and would hurt the cause of slowing down the Healthcare Reform train. It just had to be done in this case. This was the first time I realized that I found myself going out of the way to help a candidate that wasn't in the Ron Paul tradition, just to prevent something that would be worse. On and on it goes huh? I saw Pelosi and Reid smiling and admitting defeat, but of course, that was extremely suspect to say the least.
Look, Brown would be a RINO if he were from Texas. From Mass- we'll take what we can get.
Would you prefer Coakley, and 60 votes for Harry Reid?
The election in Massachusetts was about healthcare. That's it. If it was anything else at all, it was an indictment of the leadership shown by the Democrats over the last year on all things domestic. But foreign policy was the last thing on anyone's mind in those voting booths.
I read canadafreepress all the time and Judi and I have exchanged emails. I value her judgement. I also wrote McCain, his offices, his wife, his daughter maybe a hundred times during the primaries for him to either **** or get off the pot because his absolute useless campaign was jeopardizing this countries future. So, even though I respected his valor as a young man, the old man should've just stayed out of it, even now.
You're right, Sarah needs to grow some if she wants to play hardball.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree Michelle.
Extremely weak. There was no Ron Paul style candidate running. Foreign policy was not the main attraction – domestic was. You have failed.
Very true.
Why should he be fighting THAT battle when you can do it? Get a clue…he can only do so much…as you and I can.
Yeah, let's cowardly drop bombs on shepherds. That'll show 'em!
No Act of War means the wars are illegal.
"Looking back, with the Iraqi people fully liberated, and a stable pro-American democracy developing, we can see that George W. Bush and Rudy Giuliani were right. Ron Paul got it wrong."
LOL! You are a thug and you want us to put up puppet governments which all will blow up in our face.
Unfortunately…I am afraid you are right.
AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I respect and value your opinion. What is your opinion regarding the rest of the article? Personally, I tend to concur with it.I'd bet that all those rabid, avid McCain supporters out there, in right wing kool aid land don't know that their man John took funding from George Soros. They would have a stroke.
While I salute his military service, I was never sold on the myth created surrounding the man. They simply picked up the JF Kennedy PT 109 thought process, and tried to wrap it around McCain.
I always believed, that being kept in a cage for 5 years does something to a man. Something he never fully recovered from. He is mean spirited, and untrustworthy.
What of Hitler then?
Rich…yet in the real world of business…we do NOT go kill our competition. We act more civil and come up with WIN/WIN negotiations for the most part. IF America approached Foreign policy more like business…the world would be a much better place. I know I can't stand some of the people I do business with..but I dont go around yelling at them at beating them up and certainly don't go prantcing into their offices for a take over.
I am more tactful while firm and strong. I DEFEND MY company without thuggish actions.
The American gov should know better. BUt there is way too much $$$$$ at stake…so we act like barbarians.
I have been there… and after a long day of fixin' trucks I sat at the smoke pit and relaxed. That is, until the car bombs started to explode. They were so powerful they knocked the fire extinguishers off the walls even though the explosions were miles away. And you know what went through my mind? Not, oh I'm such a sucker. No, it wasn't that at all. Instead I was thinking of all the people who were going about their daily lives when some insurgent decided to take his jehad out on the people of Iraq because they were not bowing to their way of worshiping Allah. I thought that maybe our presence could eventually give these people a democracy that would help to stabilize the Middle East.
One day while riding to the other side of base, someone pointed at a large stadium just outside the wire. They said that Saddam's Son filled the stadium with poison gas because they were the wrong type of Muslim's.
I'm no hero, I just fixed trucks… but, at least I did something for a cause bigger than myself.
Ron Paul is a well meaning Loony Tune. He might be very Intelligent but that is no substitute for wisdom. What would have happened, for example, after Iraq invaded Kuwait if the U.S. had no rallied the world and then threw Iraq out? Iraq was only 35 miles from controlling about 30% of the worlds Oil Supply. Now you can say why should we fight and die for oil? Oil is THE COMMODITY that fuels the entire worlds economy. It is THE COMMODITY that allows the world to mostly feed itself. Sometimes Intervention is the ONLY SANE course of action. Ron Paul is well meaning and I do not doubt that he is sincere but you have to think of the consequences of following his advice.
Americans really don't get it about Islam at all.
Total ignorance.
1. The U.S. Constitution, anyone ever heard of it, specially gives the power to declare war to the U.S. Congress. This action against Al Queda is just another Vietnam police action. As Rand Paul says. "The U.S. Congress should either declare war or the U.S. should bring its troops back home"
2. The war on terror is a terrible ignorant misunderstanding of what is really going on. What is going on is a world war between Islam implementation of Sharia law and Judeo/Christian democracies. Terror is just one tactic. The U.S. fights Al Queda overseas but yet is the home to the ten of thousands of potential Muslim terrorists. Geert Wilder among international politicians is one of the very few who understand that the problem is not terrorism which is only symptom, but Islam itself and Sharia law.
America should ban hijabs, burqua and, minorettes. That is the where the real battle is being fought, inside America not halfway around the world.
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