The Right to Bear Arms: Does the Second Amendment Apply in Chicago?
by Damon RootLast year’s landmark Supreme Court decision in District of Columbia v. Heller definitively settled the fact that the Second Amendment secures an individual right—not a collective one—to keep and bear arms. Yet that ruling applied only to the federal government (which oversees Washington, D.C.). Does the Second Amendment apply against state and local governments as well?

Through a series of legal decisions handed down over the past century, the Supreme Court has gradually held that most of the protections in the Bill of Rights apply to the states via the Fourteenth Amendment, which declares, “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” The Second Amendment, however, has been glaringly absent from this process, leaving state and local governments free to systematically violate gun rights.
Until now.
Later this term, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in McDonald v. Chicago, a case that centers on whether the Windy City’s notorious handgun ban violates the 14th Amendment. As we’ll see, it most certainly does. The text of the Fourteenth Amendment, the historical events leading to its adoption, the goals of its framers, and the statements of purpose made both by its supporters and by those who ratified it, all point in the exact same direction: The amendment was designed to secure individual rights–including the right of armed self-defense–against abusive state and local governments.
In the wake of the Civil War, the former Confederate states began passing a series of laws, ordinances, and regulations that robbed the recently freed slaves and their white allies of their political, economic, and civil rights, including the right to arms. Mississippi’s 1866 Black Code, for example, declared “that no freedman, free Negro, or mulatto…shall keep or carry firearms of any kind.” In other words, America’s original gun control laws were designed to disarm African Americans and leave them at the mercy of predatory state governments.
So the Radical Republicans of the 39th Congress responded with the Fourteenth Amendment, which was ratified in 1868, and which was explicitly designed to secure the life, liberty, and property of all Americans from tyrannical state attack. One of the leading figures in this process was Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, the author of the 14th Amendment’s first section (quoted above). In a speech before the House of Representatives, Bingham explained that “the privileges and immunities” protected by the amendment “are chiefly defined in the first eight amendments to the Constitution.” That quite obviously includes the Second Amendment.
Similarly, Sen. Jacob Howard of Michigan, who presented the Fourteenth Amendment to the Senate, declared that its purpose was “to restrain the power of the States and compel them at all times to respect these great fundamental guarantees,” including “the right to keep and to bear arms.” As the legal scholar Michael Kent Curtis writes in his masterful history No State Shall Abridge: The Fourteenth Amendment and the Bill of Rights, both Bingham and Howard “clearly said that the amendment would require the states to obey the Bill of Rights. Not a single senator or congressman contradicted them.”
For its part, Chicago currently maintains that the Second Amendment should have zero authority over its gun control regime, arguing that the city should enjoy “the greatest flexibility to create and enforce firearms policy” and that “Firearms regulation is a quintessential issue on which state and local governments can ‘serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country.”’ But of course the Supreme Court would never allow Chicago to try a novel “experiment” like banning free speech, so why should the Second Amendment enjoy any less respect than the First Amendment does?
Indeed, as the libertarian Institute for Justice argues in the superb friend of the court brief it filed in the Chicago case, “To enslave a class of people requires three basic things: destroy their self-sufficiency, prevent them from fighting back, and silence any opposition. Southern states did all of those things both before and after the Civil War, and the point of the Fourteenth Amendment was to make them stop.”
By striking down Chicago’s draconian handgun ban, the Supreme Court has the chance to finally restore both the Second Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment to their rightful place in our constitutional system. Let’s hope the justices get it right.






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Great posting … Thanks.
Many forget the KKK was the Democrat party's terror wing.
they will lose this case…
But they are prepared for that. The next assault will be on ownership 'restrictions' (taxation? you bet) and their prime target will be ammunition. Watch for draconian measures on ammo, price, availability, amount you can keep- for without ammunition guns are useless.
And THEY know that.
They also will have UN control (see Agenda 21/Codex Alimentarius for details) as a 'worldwide health hazard'.
They are deadly serious about disarming the citizens and will stop at nothing. heck they can use the flu 'pandemic' to seize property and weapons right now.
Don't get too comfortable with this apparent 'victory'…
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good article…. as a native from the Chicago area — aka Da Region — I am glad to see this effort….
I believe in protecting ones home and property. I have a Conceal Carry License and am armed at all times, within the CCL laws of Ohio, and I am always concerned when I travel home to Chicago because I have to leave my guns at home because of this silly law. But Chicago has one of the countries highest crime rates, highest black -on -black shootings, highest gangs dealing freely in drugs and breaking into homes, etc etc. Soooooo…how's this no gun ownership working for you Chicago???
Chicago's gun ban has done nothing to stop the ever-increasing rate of murders, robberies, etc. It's an excuse to divert attention from the fact that Daley is and has been, incapable of handling crime in the city.
"The Right to Bear Arms: Does the Second Amendment Apply in Chicago?"
It will only cease to apply when the Citizens of Chicago allow it .
They want to disarm us to make us more dependend on them, and to protect themselves from us when we realize who they are via Profascist policies.
The reason the 2nd amendement was put in place was to avoid both perils and it tortures them to no end.
Chicago is an example of a city to avoid. I will not go to the Chicagos and San Frans of the world due to their most liberal practices and the high taxes.
What the libs don't destroy in those cities, the unions and the political hacks do. Beware and stay away.
And the third reason is to protect their criminal constituents from us fighting back I mean you can't vote if your dead … oh wait this is Chicago, my bad of course you can, and often.
Gun control has NEVER been about safety or crime, its ALWAYS been about keeping those uppity [insert group here] from challenging the power of the oppressors.
Took the thought right out of my head. The subjugation of the US people will only be stopped if there is a concerted effort to remove all of the sub-humans pushing for this legislation.
the people are getting VERY anxious, friend… and the next six months will be very interesting.
Makes me want to start a compound in rural Montana just to avoid these oppressionist tendecies being pursued by our government. Of course look what happened to the poor women and children in Waco. No pity for them as long as they were religious.
I live in Chicago and everything is great thanks to the gun ban!
School children are not getting killed on a daily basis….oh wait, yes they are. Crime is at an all-time low….oh wait, no it isn't. People are safe inside their homes….oh wait, they're not.
oops, nevermind
Gun control = dissent control. It is disdain for who we are, how we think and what we believe.
That's the socialists creed….word for word!!
If you have a registered firearm, you give the government the information they need to take it away from you! We are going to have to start buying guns the way criminals do…not a nice thought, but protection of yourself and your country come first!!!
"try novel social and economic experiments…" How about this "novel experiment" ? Repeal the gun laws including restrictions on concealed carry and then compare the crime rate before and after….The results may be interesting, especially the rate of attacks on lone women and home break-ins….Not eveyone will be "carrying", but your average skell certainly will not have a clue….
Gun Control is not about guns, it is about CONTROL!
If it did we would not have the Big O
chicago has it about right, only law enforcement, and street thugs are allowed handguns, law abiding citizens either need to wait for a cop ( i hope you live near a donut shop), or hand over everything you own, and hope the gangbanger doesn't still shoot you for the fun of it. but you know daley has armed guards, and the alderman have armed protection, but the little people just need to learn how to duck when the lead starts flying.
when, not if, they come for your guns, if they ONLY get the business end it will show them the non-compliance they are expecting, the alternative is to get on your knees, kiss their ass, and say "yes master", like the jews did for hitler when they walked into the gas chamber.
if nobody complies the revolution will have begun and the american men will be men and the whining pussies (libs) will hide in the corner and cry.
also if there is a coordinated nationwide work strike of at least one month the washington insiders will know we the people who hire them mean business!
I'm not sure about skell
But I am
exceptionally well said and reasoned…
and spot on as well. They cannot help but be that which they are. Fanatics. Loons. Either way, subtlety isn't their forte'…
I think their 'experiment' provided expected results…
Good article. Well written.
I can't believe it took this long to finally come to this.
Well spoken Dave and dcase.
I've been watching for months as teh Left began to shred itself. We will have to be extra vigilant to stop any sudden attempts to seize total control from this supposed "administration". Support oathkeepers.org if you can and keep your powder dry.
I pray that the Republic survives long enough to reach the 2010 elections and beyond without needing that powder.
Mexico has very stiff gun laws also. Hard to buy one and difficult to own one. How is that working out?
In the wake of the Civil War, the former Confederate states [aka today's democrat party] began passing a series of laws, ordinances, and regulations that robbed the recently freed slaves and their white allies of their political, economic, and civil rights, including the right to arms.
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty."
- Adolf Hitler
Also well said. "Trust in God but keep your powder dry" – Oliver Cromwell, is my Motto. We must be prepared 'cause these are trying times my friends.
Ha Ha, LOL.
this is why neither the american liberals nor the obamabots would make it in switzerland!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g
It's been proven time and time again that the parts of the country that don't have draconian gun restrictions,that crime statistics are low.Places like Chigaco and other urban centers like draconian gun laws because the powers that be fear the people. As well they should.
It's amazing to me that that the "Separation of Church and State", which isn't mentioned anywhere in the United States Constitution, applies all the way down to local School Districts. But there's still a question of whether The Right to Bear Arms, which has a distinct Amendment dedicated to it, can only be applied to the Federal Government.
And that is why, for the last thirty years, I have been reloading my ammo. I have all the equipment and lots of brass, and lots of the parts in between. I am a libtards worst nightmare.
They forgot to ban splintered railroad ties.
ah…not very well I'm afraid and it's spilling over to our side of the border…..
it's been said that "an armed society is a polite society"
the opposite also applies!
Who is John Galt?
The great American thinker, Ted Nugent said it best. "The 2nd Amendment is my right to carry permit"
I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that the 2nd Amendment is pretty clear… "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
If it included wording like that in the 1st Amendment ("Congress shall make no law…") then it might be up to debate, but IMO the 2nd Amendment, together with the 10th Amendment, clearly place that particular right with the people and not with the State.
John Galt is a fictional character in Ayn Rand's novel Atlas Shrugged. Although he is absent from much of the text, he is the subject of the novel's often repeated question, "Who is John Galt?", and the quest to discover the answer.
As the plot unfolds, Galt is acknowledged to be a creator and inventor who embodies the power of the individual capitalist. He serves as an idealistic counterpoint to the social and economic structure depicted in the novel. The depiction portrays a society based on oppressive bureaucratic functionaries and a culture that embraces the stifling mediocrity and egalitarianism of socialistic idealism. In this popular mass ideology, the industrialists of America were a metaphorical Atlas of Greek mythology, holding up the world, whom Galt convinces to "shrug," by refusing to lend their productive genius to the regime any longer
Trying times indeed. Also very interesting times, my friend. Hopefully this will be known in future generations as the begining of the 'Great Awakening', and I wouldn't miss it for the world. These can be very heady times.
They did… in Kennesaw GA. After Morton Grove IL banned handguns in 1982, Kennesaw's city council unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. In the years since, Morton Grove's per capita crime rate has gone up, Kennesaw's has dropped, and stayed way down. The last gun death was in 1986 when one drunk moron shot another drunk moron on a dare. The last murder was in 1989, and it was done with a knife. But hey, why confuse the gun control zealots with facts?
Excellent article!
This old article by Geoff Metcalf from WND is worth a read.
http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Amend/paranoid….
the antithesis of george soros!
Former Illinois Governor Jim Edgar once said so brilliantly; "The Only Thing Bad about Illinois is Chicago"!
If one is one of the People of the United States, then he or she is a legal King or Queen and may do as they please. However, if one is a Citizen of the United States, then he or she is subject to the government and must obey the laws. Citizens are granted privileges, not rights. If you are one of the People of the United States, then all ten amendments are available to you. You have natural rights. If you are a Citizen of the United States, then you have “civil rights” (properly called civil privileges).
The following list does not attempt to distinguish between those Bill of Rights provisions which have been held to have themselves been incorporated or absorbed by the Fourteenth Amendment and those provisions which the Court indicated at the time were applicable against the States because they were fundamental and not merely because they were named in the Bill of Rights. Whichever formulation was originally used, the former is now the one used by the Court.
Duncan v. Louisiana,
391 U.S. 145, 148 (1968).
First Amendment—
Religion—
Free exercise: Hamilton v. Regents, 293 U.S. 245, 262 (1934); Cantwell v.
Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296, 300, 303 (1940).
Establishment: Everson. v. Board of Education, 330 U.S. 1, 3, 7, 8 (1947); Illinois
ex rel. McCollum v. Board of Education, 333 U.S. 203 (1948).
Speech— Gitlow v. New York, 268 U.S. 652, 666 (1925); Fiske v. Kansas, 274
U.S. 380 (1927); Stromberg v. California, 283 U.S. 359 (1931).
Press— Near v. Minnesota ex rel. Olson, 283 U.S. 697, 701 (1931).
Assembly— DeJonge v. Oregon, 299 U.S. 353 (1937).
Petition— DeJonge v. Oregon, 299 U.S. at 364, 365; Hague v. CIO, 307 U.S.
496 (1939); Bridges v. California, 314 U.S. 252 (1941).
Fourth Amendment—
Search and seizure— Wolf v. Colorado, 338 U.S. 25 (1949); Mapp v. Ohio, 367
U.S. 643 (1961).
Fifth Amendment—
Double jeopardy— Benton v. Maryland, 395 U.S. 784 (1969); Ashe v. Swenson,
397 U.S. 436 (1970) (collateral estoppel).
Self-incrimination— Malloy v. Hogan, 378 U.S. 1 (1964); Griffin v. California,
380 U.S. 609 (1965).
Just compensation— Chicago, B. & Q. R.R. v. City of Chicago, 166 U.S. 226
(1897).
Sixth Amendment—
Speedy trial— Klopfer v. North Carolina, 386 U.S. 213 (1967).
Public trial— In re Oliver, 333 U.S. 257 (1948).
Jury trial— Duncan v. Louisiana, 391 U.S. 145 (1968).
Impartial Jury— Irvin v. Dowd, 366 U.S. 717 (1961); Turner v. Louisiana, 379
U.S. 466 (1965).
Notice of charges— In re Oliver, 333 U.S. 257 (1948).
Confrontation— Pointer v. Texas, 380 U.S. 400 (1965); Douglas v. Alabama, 380
U.S. 415 (1965).
Compulsory process— Washington v. Texas, 388 U.S. 14 (1967).
Counsel— Powell v. Alabama, 287 U.S. 45 (1932); Gideon v. Wainwright, 372
U.S. 335 (1963).
Eighth Amendment—
Cruel and unusual punishment— Louisiana ex rel. Francis v. Resweber, 329
U.S. 459 (1947); Robinson v. California, 370 U.S. 660 (1962).
Provisions not applied are:
Second Amendment—
Right to keep and bear arms—Cf. United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542,
553 (1876); Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252, 265 (1886).
Third Amendment—
Quartering troops in homes—No cases.
Fifth Amendment—
Grand Jury indictment— Hurtado v. California, 110 U.S. 516 (1884).
Seventh Amendment—
Jury trial in civil cases in which value of controversy exceeds $20— Cf. Adamson
v. California, 332 U.S. 46, 64–65 (1947) (Justice Frankfurter concurring).
See Minneapolis & St. L. R.R. v. Bombolis, 241 U.S. 211 (1916).
Eighth Amendment—
Bail— But see Schilb v. Kuebel, 404 U.S. 357, 365 (1971).
Excessive Fines— But see Tate v. Short, 401 U.S. 395 (1971) (utilizing equal
protection to prevent automatic jailing of indigents when others can pay a fine and
avoid jail).
Senate Document 108-17, p. 1006, 1007, Footnote 37
only if they kill each other.
and SEIU and ACLU.
And this is why gunsmithing and reloading are good skills to have. They can stop selling guns tomorrow, and all I need is a machine shop to make the neighborhood into an armed camp.
Yep!! Just like ACORN is now…..
I tend to think your understatement is intentional.
All they -Team Soros – had to do was take a knee. All they had to do was lay low for two years and keep the "Obama is a Centrist" crap going long enough to cement our future to their vision.
But they couldn't resist. And instead of running out the clock on America they tried to run it up the middle. Smash mouth. And that thunderous impact at the line of scrimmage woke up the sleeping giant.
And THAT wake up call is making them nervous, desperate and hostile. The next six months? Watch for their hostility to peak in 2010. And watch for it to backfire.
The only questions that remain will be how we can repair the damage of a nation at the hands of rotten scoundrels and then how to we treat the scoundrels. Like enemy combatants?
People still have Constitutional Rights in Chicago? Wow, that's surprising.
Well that's just crazy extremist talk there…
(sarc)
What is funny is that everything you posted WAS brought up as contingency plan if the Supreme Court shot this down. The plan is to make getting a gun permit so difficult & expensive, even more than it was previously, many people will give up their guns & if the permit expires before the renewal, Chicago would have the right to come into your house & take them as unlawful weapons. They plan an huge tax & if possible bar sale of ammunition in Chicago, the funny thing is that many people go over State lines to purchase their ammo already because of Chicago & Illinois prices & taxes.
And the result so far of their attempt to stop people from getting a hold of guns? Law abiding citizens no longer legally carry weapons but the gangs are somehow better armed than they were before.
"Fifteen Shooting Deaths in Chicago in One Week "(Apr. 25, 2008)
"Violent Chicago Weekend: 7 Shooting Deaths In 24 Hours" (Jun 1, 2009)
"…So far this school year, at least 36 Chicago Public School students have been killed, most of them victims of gunshots." (Jun1, 2009 Chicago Public Schools)
"Chicago loses more Black kids than soldiers in Iraq to gun violence" (NowPublic.com)
"9 Slain In Bloody Holiday Weekend" (Chicago Tribune Nov 30, 2009)
Do I need to go on?
There's nothing in the 2nd Amendment regarding geography.
The Dailey administration is an absolute jokee. At least it would be if it didn't affect the lives and wallets of millions of people. But I'm sure Ritchie knows Con Law. He only flunked the Illinois bar , , , let'e see . . . was it four times or only three?
dcase is correct.
If the EPA can side-step Congress and "regulate" CO2 then it will only be a matter of time to "regulate" lead
to the point of near impossablility to obtain ammo.
Sure, you can keep your guns but…no ammo….no bang.
Instead of BANNING GUNS IN CHICAGO they should try something new:
BAN DISHONEST CORRUPT POLITICIANS!
If all government in America ceased to exist, would the people still have a right to keep and bear arms?
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We The People, Do Hereby Declare and Proclaim Ourselves;
To Be in Agreement with the Spirit, Meaning and Intent of the Constitution which Established the Republic Acknowledged as that of These United States, and In General with the Spirit, Meaning and Intent of Constitutions Having Established Our Respective States within the Union.
We the People, Do Hereby Declare and Proclaim Ourselves;
To Be Peaceful and Law-abiding American Citizens and Hold every Honest Intent to Assent, Abide and Bind Ourselves to;
All Constitutionally-Permissible, Just and Rightfully-Enacted Laws.
In Honor of and Having Respect for, Those Patriots who Responded to the Crisis which Occurred on the 19th day of April in 1775;
In Honor of and Having Respect For, Those Righteous Persons who Sacrificed All Which They Had to Cause Tyranny and Despotism to Be Abolished;
In Honor of and Having Respect for, Those who Courageously and Brilliantly Brought Forth from the Articles of Confederation a System of Government by Consent of The People;
A System which Separated the Powers Within and Limited those Powers Afforded to the New General Government;
In Honor of and Having Respect for, Those Who Sacrificed and Died, those now Passed Away, Those who Served and those Now In Service Defending Our Nation from Our Enemies
We The People, as Self-Governing, Self-Regulating and Responsible American Citizens, Do Hereby Issue to All Federal, State and Local Governments;
All Branches, Agencies, Agents, Authorities, Officials and Representatives of The People Thereof and Therein,
An Order To;
Cease and Desist from Any and All Further Attempts to Infringe Upon the GOD-Given and Common-law Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms.
As Any and All Governments within these United States Derive their Just Powers Only From The People; and
Continue to Govern Only In Accordance With the Will, By the Grace and With the Consent of The People;
We the Independent, Peaceful and Intentionally Law-Abiding American Citizens Residing as Members of the Whole Body of The People;
Do Declare and Proclaim by All which We Hold to Be Morally Right, Just and Consistent with Individual Rights Endowed Upon Each Person by Their CREATOR;
Not In Any Way Granted or Afforded by Any Lesser Authority;
In Accordance with our Moral Obligations and Duty to Ourselves, Other Citizens, State and Nation;
WE THE PEOPLE WILL NOT EVER RELINQUISH OUR RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.
As Testament To and In Accordance With Our Will;
We The People Do Hereby Declare and Issue This PROCLAMATION.
As It Has Been Said, So It Shall Be.
Anonymous
May I add:
Article IV, section 2 Of The Constitution of the U.S. states:
“The Citizens of each State shall be entiteled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.”
-And-
Article VI states:
” This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof;…shall be supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws af any State, to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
In otherwords any State Law against, violating or ‘infringing’ upon any Right of any Citizen regardless of what State he/she from, or what State he/she in, is unlawful; and the Constitution, as “Supreme Law of the Land” over-rides any and all State Laws and State Constituions that violate it! The Constituion itself says so! “…and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby.”
Stand alone, the Second Amendment is just the Second Amendment. When applied as intended, whith complete and full support of our Founding Princibles(see Declaration of Independence) and Force of The Constitution ‘as a whole’, it leaves “We The People” holding reins, and government at the end of it’s leash doing what was ‘ordained’ to do in the first place, “…secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity” Note “Posterity” is capitalized.
Funny thing about that. The KKK was used to terrorize and intimidate blacks into not rocking the boat–keeping the white masters on their gravy train. Now, with Acorn and the SEIU, no one has to get the hoods and the crosses out. The slaves now work to keep the other slaves in bondage.
<sarc>Go Progressivism!</sarc>
They can have as much of our ammunition as they want. After we've used it, of course.
Jim Crow laws, institutionalized racism, keeping blacks from owning firearms ALL policies of the democratic party who are the face of shame in America.
My friends, i have read most of the comments on this story. one comment kinda bothers me. it was said that there is no difference between a right and a priviledge. There are eons of difference between rights and priviledges. A right such as expressed in our Constitution (LIFE,LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS are fundamental rights that are God Given.). Such are not to be infringed upon. These are basic rights that are natural. They are not to be granted, they in fact are. Nobody has a right to grant a right. A priviledge is something else. It allows one to do something not usually preordained as a right. The right to SELF DEFENSE is one of those preordained rights and is not a priviledge. It is necessary for life itself to continue. Those who wish to infringe upon that right have only one and can have only one desire. That desire is to have the power (NOT RIGHT) of life or death over the rest of the people. The Nazi’s gave Hitler the power of life or death over the people. Millions died. The communists gave the power of life or death to Stalin. Millions died. Romes rulers were given the power of life and death. millions died. the kings of Europe had the power of life or death over the people. Millions died. Yea!, life became a priviledge. Or was it. The kings of Europe denied the right of liberty to the people. liberty became a priviledge. The kings of europe denied the pursuit of happiness to the people. The pursuit of happiness became a priviledge. Then came the newly federated settlements of the americas. They said we will have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We will have the means to protect those rights because they are not priviledges but rights. Therefore we have expressed the fact that to arm ourselves is not a priviledge but a RIGHT THAT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Does this not end the confusion. It is just as plain and truthful as one can express a fact of life. Our Government has infringed upon our right to life. Our government has infringed upon our right to liberty. Our government has infringed upon our right to the pursuit of hapiness. Our government has infringed upon our right to protect our rights. our government,by law, is our employee. Is it not time to change our government out to more pliable employees who do not lie to us, do not steal from us, do not sell out to the highest bidder and do not infringe upon our rights????? if we attempted to do this to our bosses would we have a job for long? how long would we stay out of jail? Then why the hell do so many of you put up with the crap we are getting now from a kenyan citizen and a bunch of loonies from outer space who want to infringe on our rights because they want power over us that is forbidden. They actually think they will survive us dissidents. Cheeit!
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Well said StlDan.
I have thought this for a long time and I absolutely agree.
Once again, logic and common sense force me to agree with a total stranger. Thank you for articulating this stuff. We OWN them, and we don't give up title just because we decide to starve them for a while. We OWN Obama, and if he is too infantile to understand that, that's his problem. The dumbass doesn't get that he is not a ruler but a servant. Once he gets right with that, he MAY do better.
it's the reason ammo sales are sky high right now… shortage of primers!
"The amendment was designed to secure individual rights–including the right of armed self-defense–against abusive state and local governments."
How is it to be decided when state and local governments are in fact "abusive," making armed self-defense against them appropriate? Does each individual decide for himself, or do we get to vote on it? The Constitution says that the United States must guarantee every state a republican form of government. And if a state legislature asks for help, the federal government is required to protect the state from domestic violence.
no, you don't…
understand that they are ok with gang crime, as a matter of fact the gangs WILL be armed if Barry's notion of a 'civilian defense force equal to that of the military' (Ernst Rohm and the SA- or Heydrich and the SS?) comes to fruition. As his buddy Scott Bloom said: \”We get it- like Mao we understand that power comes from the barrel of a gun\”.
The amount of insanity that ANYONE can find out there on this bunch is breathtaking…
Believe me, I know, I retired from Emergency Services up there. The whole region is a big mess of corruption of all kinds.
it won't be decided by anyone specific, you will know in your heart when its time, there won't be a vote or anything like it, you will just see and hear it when we the people have had it up to here and start exploding!
it will start just like the last revolution in this country, by word of mouth and by people desperate enough to not care about consequences and there will be a lot of those, but if it gets to that point there will be no more government because when the people explode there will be no more work, no more taxes paid and because the government is like a giant bloodsucker when the blood (tax money) is gone the bloodsucker will die and we will start over again, but a little smarter!, play it by ear and keep the guns loaded!
I say re-propose every gun law with a single change; Abortion for gun.
If they want a 3 day, 3 month or my preference a 9 month waiting period to buy a gun, OK, same for an abortion.
If they want you to get a license or permit; OK you must get a license or permit for an abortion.
If there are special rules or taxes to sell guns or ammo; OK, same to perform an abortion.
If you have to be 21 to buy a gun or ammo or have parental consent; OK same for an abortion.
Can't have a gun in the city limits; OK, no abortions there either.
Can't have a gun near a University, school or hospital; OK, no abortion clinics there either.
Want to hear them squeal that these are unconstitutional limits?
it is an ugly business to be sure…
[...] Big Government » Blog Archive » The Right to Bear Arms: Does the …lakefront – December 10th, 2009 at 8:06 pm. good article…. as a native from the Chicago area — aka Da Region — I am glad to see this effort…. I believe in protecting ones home and property. I have a Conceal Carry License and am armed at ….. Minnesota ex rel. Olson, 283 U.S. 697, 701 (1931). Assembly— DeJonge v. Oregon, 299 U.S. 353 (1937). Petition— DeJonge v. Oregon, 299 U.S. at 364, 365; Hague v. CIO, 307 U.S. 496 (1939); Bridges v. California, 314 U.S. 252 (1941). … read more… [...]
Ever wonder how we got to the point in this country where a woman lying raped and murdered in an alley is considered to be somehow "morally superior" to another woman standing in the entry to that same alley explaining to the police how that rapist got a hole in his chest?
The second amendment does not apply to the states because the Supreme Court has not selectively incorporated it. Federal amendments only apply to federal law unless the SC has incorporated it. For Mr. Root to say DC v. Heller "definitely" settles the debate shows that he does not know what he's talking about. DC is not part of any state and therefore is governed by the federal constitution for local law, unlike the states that must abide by the state constitution.
[...] Big Government » Blog Archive » The Right to Bear Arms: Does the …lakefront – December 10th, 2009 at 8:06 pm. good article…. as a native from the Chicago area — aka Da Region — I am glad to see this effort…. I believe in protecting ones home and property. I have a Conceal Carry License and am armed at all ….. Alabama, 287 U.S. 45 (1932); Gideon v. Wainwright, 372 U.S. 335 (1963). Eighth Amendment— Cruel and unusual punishment— Louisiana ex rel. Francis v. Resweber, 329 U.S. 459 (1947); Robinson v. California, 370 U.S. 660 (1962). … read more… [...]
French Coffee Maker…
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I won't give up my gun, untill the cops give up there guns, because power corrupts and absolute power currupts absoltuety.
We'll make it a trade, one piece at a time, I'll start with a few thousand rounds of ammo thay convinced me to save up.
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