Controversy Mars Santorum’s Endorsement by Evangelical Leaders
by Dan RiehlThe first sign of trouble surrounding a number of evangelical Christians backing Rick Santorum came via a blog post on the weekend. An attendee claimed it was done assuming Romney would get the nomination, but provided an opportunity for the evangelicals to be influential with the prospective nominee. Today, the Washington Times picks up on a slightly different charge.
When asked one-on-one why they were going for Santorum when they knew he had no money, no organization, and stood not a ghost of a chance to win the nomination, the truth came out:
“If we unify behind Santorum, it will force Romney to pick him as his running mate – for he’ll know that’s the only way to get our support in the general (election in November).” That’s the slimy deal behind this. They’ll go for Romney if he goes for Santorum on his ticket. Should we call them Judas Conservatives?
It’s now being alleged that a number of evangelicals not supporting Santorum left after the second ballot without realizing there was to be another vote. It’s also being reported that there were incidents of ballot stuffing in support of Santorum. Santorum ultimately received the endorsement on the third ballot.
Activists say pro-Santorum vote was rigged
A civil war is breaking out among evangelical leaders over allegations of a rigged election and ballot stuffing at a Saturday gathering of religious and social conservatives.
At the meeting about 150 religious conservative activists at the Benham, Texas, ranch of Nancy and Paul Pressler, Rick Santorum supporters claimed the former Pennsylvania senator was chosen on the third ballot as the consensus candidate to try to stop Mitt Romney’s march to the Republican presidential nomination.
Additionally, Reuters reported that the endorsement is not anticipated to have much impact on church goers. The brewing controversy around the endorsement isn’t likely to help that cause.
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Allegations of voter fraud? Gee, I thought that was the sole property of the Democrats. My bad.
And all you really need to read is:
"Additionally, Reuters reported………."
to know that this is worthless information.
I don't recall any commandment against "bearing false witness FOR one's neighbor…"
LOL
Did politico break this story?
If Romney wins, he will have to find a conservative as a running mate, but more conservative than what Santorum has displayed.
….glad you finally realize democRAT's are fraudulent……
Welcome to the side of "right"!
The Democrats controlled the House of Representatives until 1994 and then regained control in 2006, so the Republicans have had control of the purse strings for 12 years since the Great Depression. Presidents can propose all the budgets they want, they can only sign off on spending bills that are sent to them by the House of Representatives.
Santorum defends his use of earmarks
By Naureen Khan http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57354185-5...
The Democrats were in control of the House, the part of our government where spending bills come from, for 38 of the last 50 years. In the late nineties when we had a "surplus", the Republicans were in control of Congress. While it is true that the President can veto budgets that spend too much, and thus should carry some of the blame, the majority of the blame should be placed squarely on the House!
SANATORIUM yep that makes sense for this crowd!!!
BWAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
http://inyourfaceradio.net/karen-santorum-living-...
Sorry, Stan. It was sarcasm.
Santorum as a Vice President is a waste. Short list of positions Secretary of State (assuming Bolton doesn't want it), Secretary of Defense, or Secretary of HHS to reform all of those entitlement programs.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
Stan:
Rubio for VP even if he doesn't want to be VP.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
Planned Parenthood's favorite Republican.
None of the above with the evidence that Santorum likes to spend other people's money. He may be socially conservative, but he leaves a lot to be desired on the fiscal front.
The real Judas here is Gov. Christie, endorsing Romney for 30 pieces of pizza.
BB:
So you believe Ron Paul's boloney he throws out about Rick. If Ron Paul really wants to be known for spending cuts why does he not talk about how he helped to reform welfare instead of Rick?
Of god forbid are you an Obama supporter?
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
Who's
He'll do more to put it out of business then Romey or Ron Paul.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
And to think: Socialists call us bigots…
This is an attempt by the Democratzi 'loons' and "Pot" Paul worshippers to discredit the only 'real' conservative running!
All 'real' conservatives in ALL parties…know who Rick Santorum is and what he has done and stands for…and we are backing him to save our Republic and the future of our children!
He is NOT in bed with NWO types as the others are…and he will break the chain of their influence in our Republic by becoming the first 'real' conservative President in many, many years!
He has my vote…he has my commitment to his campaign and he has my money! I hope that you, too, will stand with him and for the first time…vote our convictions and not for the chosen winner of the establishment…but a 'real' conservative who will stand for what we stand for and do what we would do to save us from ourselves!
GOD BLESS AMERICA…THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE…AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF 'REAL' CONSERVATIVE AMERICANS VOTING TO KEEP HER THAT WAY!
By any chance BO, were you at the helm of that Italian cruise ship, that capsized?
PART I –
Again…America…Bubba George taking things out of context. What happened back then was due to the climate back then…and that was then and this is now!
We are trillions of dollars in debt and the future of our children is in jeopardy TODAY…it was not then. Every single 'real' American knows that you cannot spend your way out of debt in any manner…you must stop the spending and cutback on the spending you are doing!
A different climate to be sure back then…let us not hold it against him for doing what he thought was best for his constituents…today…the constituents of any representatives are all constituents of the United States of America…Rick Santorum knows that and Bubba George should too…but he is attempting to smear that which cannot be smeared!
PART II –
Congressional record…Rick Santorum
http://www.issues2000.org/senate/Rick_Santorum.ht...
Santorum telling it like it is…and not backing down!
http://bigpeace.com/jpollak/2011/12/11/santorum-f...
http://bigpeace.com/sfr/2011/12/22/interview-rick...
http://biggovernment.com/jpollak/2012/01/02/ron-p...
http://bigpeace.com/stzu/2012/01/06/santorum-obam...
NOW LET US SUPPORT RICK SANTORUM WITH OUR MONEY AND OUR VOTE TO FIGHT THE NWO MONEY…FLOWING INTO ROMNEY!
https://transaxt.com/Donate/PTWALC/RickSantorumfo...
Congressional record…Rick Santorum
http://www.issues2000.org/senate/Rick_Santorum.ht...
Santorum telling it like it is…and not backing down!
http://bigpeace.com/jpollak/2011/12/11/santorum-f...
http://bigpeace.com/sfr/2011/12/22/interview-rick...
http://biggovernment.com/jpollak/2012/01/02/ron-p...
http://bigpeace.com/stzu/2012/01/06/santorum-obam...
NOW LET US SUPPORT RICK SANTORUM WITH OUR MONEY AND OUR VOTE TO FIGHT THE NWO MONEY…FLOWING INTO ROMNEY!
https://transaxt.com/Donate/PTWALC/RickSantorumfo...
Yeah, allegations made by an 'unnamed high ranking' source, sure. The facts are the reporter who wrote the column is Ralph Z. Hallow, and backtracking through his record, he's pro-Gingrich, and also pro-Romney, he also has a burr under his saddle against Santorum, because Hallow demands open borders. I believe this is a lie concocted by a reporter who wants to hit out at Santorum, and slander him. We don't like it when democrats pull this no named source bullcrap, why is Dan Riehl helping to spread this unsubstantiated lie now?
Rubio isn't eligible for the presidency, he is not a natural born US citizen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gwwmm-cQxU
Rick Santorum in his own words,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Tyranny from the left is unacceptable, and tyranny from Communitarians hiding under the banner of conservatism is unacceptable.
Rick comes from the " compassion conservative/ green conservatism" class of the Republican Party.
Voted for doubling the size of the DEPT of Education, as well as Bush's signature medicare prescription drug entitlement.
Communitarians are more dangerous than progressives, because they are disingenuous about their aims, while progressives are out in the open about it. Communitarians cleverly wrap themselves in the " right" social issues to garner support among Christian voters, while their aim is the same as a progressive, to engage in extra- constitutional activities, and spend the country into oblivion. The ultimate objective is Tyranny. Something I roundly reject, as should any freedom loving conservative.
" Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to GOD"
Mair:
Did you bother to check your facts. Marco Rubio was born 5-28-1971 in Miami, Florida. Maybe you heard his parents are from Cuba and assumed he was born in Cuba.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
Over the weekend, Ron Paul received a key endorsement from State Senator Tom Davis, South Carolina's leading Tea Party Republican. He said Paul stood "as a Tea Party of one" for years while establishment Republicans and so-called conservatives grew the government just as much as Democrats.
The real anti-establishment alternative to Romney is staring folks right in the face.
You are obviously trying to heighten Romney, and diminish Santorum
YOU are pathetic and so is the rest of Breitbart.
Just because yo P on my leg, and tell me it is raining does not make it so! Read and learn little girl!
it wasn't breitbart that for sure.
lol
have you or your alter ego every read the links you spam?
HE WILL NOT WIN…HE CANNOT WIN…HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER, EVER RUN IN THE FIRST PLACE…BUT THE NWO TYPES NEEDED SOMEONE TO PULL THE STRINGS OF…AND HE FIT THE BILL…BECAUSE HE IS A 'PRETENDER' AND A 'FENCE SITTER' AND GOES BOTH WAYS!
HE WILL NOT WIN…AGAIN….HE CANNOT WIN AGAIN…AND YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
America…I believe this man is even more dangerous than the puppet of the Bilderberg…Obama the Bush…because he has no puppetmasters…he is a legend in his own mind…and the minds of his worshippers…his ideas and visions…and his worshippers are why he is not going to win!
HE WILL NOT WIN…YET AGAIN!
HE CANNOT WIN…YET AGAIN!
HE SHOULD NOT HAVE RUN…YET AGAIN!
get it bubbba?
baloney like the 5 debt ceiling increases?? ron paul voted against all of those increases and every unbalanced budget. santorum on the other hand…… well he voted for them…HE said HE –HAD— to spend the surpluses.
Everyone of them…Bubba…and I wouldn't post them if "I" didn't believe them!
I only post truths…and what I believe and nothing more!
Get it?
I've sent out the Bat Signal to O'Keefe. His mission is to prove that the ones stuffing the ballot boxes were liberals in disguise, trying to make the cons looks bad. Will he accept?
No, it was James O'Keefe. He was trying to seduce an Italian reporter by attempting to show her he really was a captain. I hate it when that happens.
Romney promised he would pay for Christie's weight loss program.
Ron:
Rick did more with his efforts on those debt ceiling increases than Ron Paul ever did while he was in Congress to restrain spending. Ron Paul I'm sorry to tell you isn't a real leader.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
HE WILL NOT WIN…YET AGAIN!
HE CANNOT WIN…YET AGAIN!
HE SHOULD NOT HAVE RUN…YET AGAIN!
wow your comment was insightful and fact laden. the evidence you put forth to back your claim is astounding. It speak volumes for you, your position and the basis of it.
rick santorum 5x decided to enslave us with debt and debt payments to china.
RON PAUL 2012
So you admit being there…LMAO!
Ron Paul who puts *his* earmarks into bills certain to pass, like defense spending, and then votes against them, so he can bring truckloads of pork to his own district while strutting and crowing about how he never votes for earmarks?
And you grouse about Santorum's earmark spending?
At least Santorum is honest about it and admits to it…….
Now you got it…your "Pot" Paul…yet again…cannot win…and will not win!
YOU GOT IT NOW…BUBBA!
HE WILL NOT WIN…YET AGAIN!
HE CANNOT WIN…YET AGAIN!
HE SHOULD NOT HAVE RUN…YET AGAIN!
raising the debt ceiling is different than earmarks.
ear marks are 1% on annual federal budget.
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after being swept out of office santorum conveniently got consulting jobs at the firms he earmarked millions of dollars to… he made over a million in this quid pro quo… in less than 12 months "work".
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Ron Paul 2012
don't respond too quickly walter i need time to verify all those links you cited while laying out that detailed argument………………
but he has been at bohemian grove………..eiennforempire
battle cry never forget– back to ground zero—-
Address the uncomfortable dishonesty about Paul, don't just thumb it down, because it won't make it go away.
How about Paul's vote to authorize the use of military force against islamic terrorists?
The one he cast 3 days after 9/11, while now he says the Bush administration was filled with glee before the towers hit the ground, because now they had an excuse to go to war….
….but he still voted FOR that war….
He's one of the most dishonest politicians I have yet seen. He even tells the white supremacists he shares their beliefs in order to get their money.
So he was lying to them to get what he wanted?
Or is he lying now, when caught soliciting their support?
and if he'll lie to them to get what he wants, and to the 9/11 truthers, and rant about the Fed for FORTY YEARS without passing any substantive legislation to deal with it, why should we suddenly trust him now?
And why do you believe you are the ONLY one he won't lie to to get what he wants?
and what he wants is to be president – this is his last chance, and as easy as it will be to beat Obama on his record, it would be his easiest chance at winning (though still doubtful).
To Paul, it's all about Paul, and his own ambitions. No one vetted our current president, someone had better damned well honestly vet Paul before pushing him further…
Neither! Ron Paul is a lunatic on foreign policy, and I just look at the votes Santorum has made when he was in the senate.
Obama can kiss my Jewish Azz!
I don't trust any one in the top 4. Either they're big government, (Romney, Gingrich, Santorum) or they'll hand us over to the towel heads.(Paul)
And don't even think of accusing me of supporting that communist in the white house like WH did above.
Yeah he's honest about being a big spender. He loves other people's money which is why I can't support him. He loves those entitlements.
Hypocrite…trying to stop the free speech of another in opposition to your "Pot" Paul…while proclaiming your extensive reach for free this and free that…you are scum…tent scum and nothing more!
Ron:
Ron Paul has made no real effort to cut federal spending. He has shown no leadership in cutting spending.
Rick and Newt on the other hand got welfare reform through and balance budgets.
Your support for Ron Paul is for no leadership or to reelect Obama.
Unlike you I care for this country which is why I will vote for a real leader not that phony Ron Paul.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
Like how it Rick and Newt who demonstrated real leadership in getting welfare reform and balance budgets passed. They did that with no help from that non leader Ron Paul.
I guess facts get in your way since you want leaders who will give us balance budgets since Ron Paul didn't do that.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
GB:
That's why the establishment that supports Mitt has poured millions of dollars attacking Newt and Rick while ignoring Ron Paul. I guess the establishment is worried about those two and not Ron Paul or Ron Paul is working Mitt to allow Mitt to become the nominee.
So why are you supporting the establishment candidate Ron Paul?
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
B:
You missed those votes for welfare reform and four balance budgets then. And if Ron Paul is a lunatic on foreign policy which Repubican will support then since you obviously don't want to support a candidate with a lunatic foreign policy.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
i see you eileen.
You and your ilk are scum…scum…get it Bubba?
yessss yesssss me and my "ilk" bwahh hahaha bwahh hahahahahah
Well let's see here…there are (5) running right now!
NWO money Romney
CFR Newt
Crazy old "Pot" Paul
Pitiful Perry new recruit of the Bilderberg
And then 'real' conservative Rick Santorum. The the top (4) I mentioned are the ones you don't trust? Neither do I!
But the only one getting MY vote will be the only 'real' conservative Rick Santorum!
Mair:
If you're born in the US you are considered to be a US Citizen. One of my jobs is doing passport applications. As long as the kid is born in the US they are a citizen even if their parents aren't US Citizens (I have done enough applications where the kid is born in the United States and the parents are illegal aliens from Mexico to know this). Which means not only does Rubio have a US Passport he's also eligible to be Vice President. If he wasn't he would've pointed that out to stop the talk of his being the Vice President for the Republican nominee.
The point is you're wrong and should apologize for saying that I'm mentally about 12 years olds.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
Santorum is a smug sob, can't stand him. He's the poster boy of how religion can screw a man up.
how is building more bases here in america and building Our Defense "handing us over to (racial epithet)"?
Ron Paul 2012
as of 1.16.12 each american citizen owes $155,000 dollars for "their share" of the debt. This includes new born babies that get the debt by birth right. It does not include unfunded liabilities of the gold plated pensions of gubberment and federal employees- which is an estimated 60+ trillion.
50% of that debt can be tied to rick santorum voting to raise the debt ceiling.
"i am no longer a fiscal conservative… I HAD TO SPEND THE DEFICITS" rick santorum 2003
QUALIFY YOUR SLANDEROUS CLAIM- "He even tells the white supremacists he shares their beliefs in order to get their money. "
This is impossible because THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED.
THE OPPOSITE HAS HAPPENED.
Paul has sponsored hundreds of pro america bill– the siy still in the house because the establishment like$ things just they way they are…
How is Paul's plan to ignore the towelheads desire to either convert us or kill us going to protect us? How is Paul's declarations that it's our fault that the followers of the religion of peace are continuously killing everyone that gets in their way going to help keep us safe?
LOL
Qualify it????
It's been all over the web for months – where has your head been buried?
Photocopies of his newsletter, with his signature at the bottom, playing into every racist, homophobic, antisemitic and conspiracy theorist group out there, to crate the appearance in their minds that paul thinks like they do, and deserves their money.
as I've said a dozen times before, either he's lying to them to get their money and support, or lying to everyone else about why they support him.
In the 2008 election, Stormfront was actually LINKING DONATIONS TO PAUL FROM THEIR SITE. And in that one of many presidential runs, Paul took photo op pics with arm wrapped around Don Black, smiling ear to ear. It is inconceivable that his Secret Service detail (that every presidential candidate and nomineee gets) wouldn't know Don Black and his son, who was also there, and pass word to the candidate of who was there. Also impossible to believe is that he took the check Black handed to him without knowing who it was he was gladhanding and taking a wad of cash from.
So you're going to try to argue that he doesn't know what was in the newsletters.
Okay then, since he was managing them, if he had no idea what was being sent out in his name, with his signature, then he's completely incompetent to manage a newsletter.
And you want to make him PRESIDENT????????
But that doesn't explain WHY these people support him.
Or why he's never refused their money.
Or made a statement specifically condemning them.
Why do you think that is?
The best possible spin on all this is that Paul tells people what they want to hear to get their support.
in other words, LYING to them.
So what makes you think you are the only one he WON'T lie to?
Actually, 1/435th, not 50%
Or were there only two people voting for it?
What has he done, specifically?
Right. Paul has addressed this many times.
You think secret service knows some loser white pride nobody and his kid at out of the hundreds of people donating cash for a quick photo? That is high-larious.
Ron Paul does not panderer. If he were he'd be cruising to the nomination http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSVi45vfA6o&fe...
Paul has made excuses for it.
But he HASN'T addressed it.
But the question remains – is he lying to them to get their support, or is he lying to everyone else? Either way, he's lying.
Did he really not know what was being sent out in those newsletters and is just too incompetent to manage them, let alone an entire country….
Or is he lying about that too?
either way makes him less than presidential material…….
And as a postscript, he certainly did pander to stormfront enough in 2008 while running for president to not only get a check from them directly, but to have them soliciting donations to him through a link to his web site, on theirs….
Why would racist white supremacists go out of their way to support him, if they didn't think he agreed with their ideology? Could it be because his newsletters pandered to them, too……? And WHY has he never SPECIFICALLY denounced these racist, antisemitic white supremacist groups?
WHY can't he seem to do that?
Don't thumb it down until you answer the questions.
Is he too incompetent to run a newsletter let alone a country, or is he lying about knowing what was being sent out with his signature on it?
Is he lying to the white supremacists, 9/11 truthers, and conspiracy theorists to get their support, or is he lying to everyone else about agreeing with them?
Andy why can't he condemn these groups that he gets so much support from?
Don't be a typical Cult of Paul zombie – address these very real and salient questions.
And while you're at it, why do you Paul supporters hate answering them so much?
P.S. Very hypocritical, to censor by intimidation, while crowing about how constitutional your chosen one supposedly is……..
Actually, Santorum has worked FOR the reform of entitlements.
That's a separate issue from earmarks.
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