The G-20 Fiscal Fight: A Pox on Both Their Houses
by Dan MitchellBarack Obama and Angela Merkel are the two main characters in what is being portrayed as a fight between American “stimulus” and European “austerity” at the G-20 summit meeting in Canada. My immediate instinct is to cheer for the Europeans. After all, “austerity” presumably means cutting back on wasteful government spending. Obama’s definition of “stimulus,” by contrast, is borrowing money from China and distributing it to various Democratic-leaning special-interest groups.

But appearances can be deceiving. Austerity, in the European context, means budget balance rather than spending reduction. As such, David Cameron’s proposal to boost the U.K.’s value-added tax from 17.5 percent to 20 percent is supposedly a sign of austerity even though his Chancellor of the Exchequer said a higher tax burden would generate “13 billion pounds we don’t have to find from extra spending cuts.”
Raising taxes to finance a bloated government, to be sure, is not the same as Obama’s strategy of borrowing money to finance a bloated government. But proponents of limited government and economic freedom understandably are underwhelmed by the choice of two big-government approaches.
What matters most, from a fiscal policy perspective, is shrinking the burden of government spending relative to economic output. Europe needs smaller government, not budget balance. According to OECD data, government spending in eurozone nations consumes nearly 51 percent of gross domestic product, almost 10 percentage points higher than the burden of government spending in the United States.
Unfortunately, I suspect that the “austerity” plans of Merkel, Cameron, Sarkozy, et al, will leave the overall burden of government relatively unchanged. That may be good news if the alternative is for government budgets to consume even-larger shares of economic output, but it is far from what is needed.
Unfortunately, the United States no longer offers a competing vision to the European welfare state. Under the big-government policies of Bush and Obama, the share of GDP consumed by government spending has jumped by nearly 8-percentage points in the past 10 years. And with Obama proposing and/or implementing higher income taxes, higher death taxes, higher capital gains taxes, higher payroll taxes, higher dividend taxes, higher business taxes, and a value-added tax, it appears that American-style big-government “stimulus” will soon be matched by European-style big-government “austerity.”
Here’s a blurb from the Christian Science Monitor about the Potemkin Village fiscal fight in Canada:
This weekend’s G-20 summit is shaping up as an economic clash of civilizations – or at least a clash of EU and US economic views. EU officials led by German chancellor Angela Merkel are on a national “austerity” budget cutting offensive as the wisest policy for economic health, ahead of the Toronto summit of 20 large-economy nations. Ms. Merkel Thursday said Germany will continue with $100 billion in cuts that will join similar giant ax strokes in the UK, Italy, France, Spain, and Greece. EU officials say budget austerity promotes the stability and market confidence that are prerequisites for their role in overall recovery. Yet EU pro-austerity statements in the past 48 hours are also defensive – a reaction to public statements from US President Barack Obama and G-20 chairman Lee Myung-bak, South Korea’s president, that the overall effect of national austerity in the EU will harm recovery. They are joined by US Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, investor George Soros, and Nobel laureate and columnist Paul Krugman, among others, arguing that austerity works against growth, and may lead to a recessionary spiral.






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We can only hope that Angela Merkel kicks Barracks skinny ass.
Those Europeans better buck up. He is on the way to destroying our country, they better not let him influence theirs.
Merkel needs to get him in a private room, grab him by his big ears and shake him till he screams he'll resign!! OK back to reality…she needs to tell him stuff it barry we don't need your socialist/marxist ways…we've already seen the damage it does first hand….
The G20 conference is in a fenced compound.
Solution: Lock the fence, throw away the key.
Economic policy is not that difficult to understand! If you continue to spend more than you make, you are destine for failure. We need a leader that is willing to wield a "budget axe" and make mince meat out of ALL government programs. Nobody is immune. Everyone has to have skin in the game. Sorry, but it's true!
Merkel vs Obama………hahahahahah good one.
President lunchmeat won't last one round with the woman who leads the ONLY EU country who's economy is in the black, who stared down the IMF and WB wusses, refusing to bankroll the Greek bailout alone.
Obama, meet Maggie Thatcher with an accent! Now DUCK!
World dictatorship at it's finest…
What part of Obama is a Communist do people not understand?
Soros was there? " They are joined by US Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, investor George Soros.." The man who destroyed the British economy? What the hell is he doing there!! ? When is someone going to get rid of that corrupt, evil old man?
I just saw an old movie called "The Perfect Storm" (about a fishing boat) and in the end the brave crew all died in 100 ft waves. This country is in the perfect storm created by Soros and Obama. Lets get out of this alive. We need to fight every which way we can. The disgust I feel knows no bounds.
Do those twits think the Laffer Curve is a myth?
NWO.
November is our only chance.
DTOM! http://RightWingStuff.com
Thank you all the great patriots on this site. Knowing there are good Americans ready for the fight ahead help keep my blood pressure within manageable limits. It was never a problem until Jan. 20th 2009, it has been rising ever since. Semper Fi this ol jarhead is locked and loaded in the old mines of Nevada. The Obama minions are straight out of "Idiocracy" "soylent green" animal farm etc. Give me liberty or give me death… It is real hard not to just explode in the face of stupid people.
Obama is going to be the one standing alone when this is all over! The rest of Europe already knows that his 'policies' will NEVER work, especially with people who are used to being FREE!!!
If anyone thinks that anything from across the pond is going to help right our situation,……
FORGET IT,………..
We the people are the ONLY solution.,…………V O T E I N N O V E M E B E R.
You could plant a flag in the middle of a friggin desert – delcrae it a new nation with sound money and free market principles and you would be turning investors and citizens away. Because where the hell else in the world would you have such an island of sanity? Canada is kicking our ass with Reagna-like policies now. This 60s radical BS is an anachronism – its dead – it doesn't work. Go back to yuor basement with a bong, back issues of Mother Jones and your Grateful Dead 8 tracks. BUt leave my country alone! AAargh…..
I have a hard time discerning whether some of these idiot congressmen are as dumb as they sound or if they are all knowingly reading from a script designed to deceive the American people. Does he really believe there's no historic example of over-regulation? Is anyone that dense? If so, shame on us for electing such exceedingly unintelligent individuals to positions of such great importance. And if they are not idiots, but smooth-talking, manipulative deceivers, then shame on us anyway for not taking the time to see past nice-sounding words and unrealistic promises of utopia. Shame on us.
A few years back the French were after Soros for destroying the Franc.
We can hope that both Germany and England tell BO to sit down and to shut up. Now that would be good for America. Maybe, not so much. He would return to take our his childish anger on the American people. This dingbat and his trolls have to start entering the unemployment line in Nov 2010.
Vote people. Vote if you wish to save what is left of this country.
'"Many of our elected leaders warned about the invisible government and intent to destroy American national sovereignty from within. President Eisenhower recognized evils and corruption of illegal immigration and the military, industrial, congressional complex.
Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today.” President Theodore Roosevelt – 1906
We, like those before us who knew of this conspiracy to take over the American government with population manipulation, have a duty as patriotic citizens to inform others and fight for our independence. "A time comes when silence is betrayal." Rev. Martin Luther King; Thomas Jefferson- “There is not a truth existing that I fear or would wish unknown to the whole world.”
In time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell "
cont…
The above quotes I took form an article that was written in 2007 by Mark Lowry. Excellent piece.
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/20...
Nothing good will happen economically, until these ego driven, econ101 challenged, immature, 1960's Orwellian frauds are removed from power and jailed for crimes against the Constitution.
The speedy trial will be held anywhere in AZ, presided over by Judge Bork..
All found guilty, get to spend the rest of their days in Cuba or Venzuela…..
"Idiocracy"…Classic lol movie…Got no real play here…
Must be the black thug President thing…..Hit too close to home..
SimperFi and out
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Obombster ony answers to Greek accents…
My caption for the picture,"HA, HA,HA, yeah, the taxpaying pions will never see it coming!"
Why yes they do……Any common sense eludes them….their beliefs delude them….and time marches on…
I've considered this exact scenario you've set up here, but in my musings it's a country that already exists.
Unfortunately, there is no country on Earth that has sound money and free market principles.
All existing countries are some form of Totalitarianism/Socialism/Despotism/NannyStatism..This mind set is now incipit worldwide …
America is the only place that has the real underpinnings of potential for Liberty and Freedom…we just need to shake the Liberty Tree of Progressives…… and water it with their blood.
A litle off topic but really needs to seen. I posted these figures in 2008 but now I found the video. Please pay attention. The real enemy is slithering into our lives and we focus on only whats in front of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
http://remembernovember.com/
Wouldn't it be nice to see expressions that reflected the state of the global economy rather than a bunch of fat-cats acting like it?
What form of government do we have? Do you really know? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE&fe
Restore the Republic
God Bless America
Everyone understand that, but that was the entire point of the homosexual Keynes writing his POS book, The General Theory. He gave an 'academic sheen' to the Progressive's big government fantasies.
Now, instead of government spending being a 'subtractor' from the private economy, it is a multiplier, capable of turning destructive policies into constructive policies.
If the GOP wins back congress and ultimately the White House, a primary plank in their platform must be the abolition of the Department of Education and the abolition of all government funding for all levels of education. It is in the schools that this nonsense is being 'taught.'
What both Obama and Merkel have in common is a love of ever larger and more powerful government. They get there by higher taxes or increased borrowing. No matter which route they take, the results are the same.
Wow….when it all goes to hell it sure goes fast. Even European SOCIALISTS are banding together against Obama's 'let's spend our way out of this together' pep rally.
http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/25/g20-barack-obama...
When you've lost Europe….let's just say lepers in biblical times got better treatment, bwahahahaha. '
He's banned in the EU from ANY financial dealings of any kind. Why do you think he latched onto Obama like a leech?
Brazil offshore oil deal ring any bells? Soros owns controling interest and Obama gave it his blessings…and a couple of Billion of OUR money along with it. God knows we live to enrich Soros.
Don't forget folks to make sure your state organizations know about Soros's Secretary of State Project. He's determined to field hand picked candidates for every Secretary of State, and if you check you'll see why. They pretty much CERTIFY everything from all candidates for office to election results. This we DO NOT NEED.
They do not even know what it is!
One of our chances. We got into this over 100 years we sure as hell will not reverse all of it in one day in November! We have to "keep on keepin on!"
What are these pinheads on the photo laughing about?
The condition of the world economy is not funny!
This is what Obama has done to us:
" Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has expressed optimism about the future of the world, saying the arrogant powers' dominance over other nations is fading away.
"A long and black chapter in the history of humanity is coming to a close and an age of enlightenment is about to start," ILNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying on Friday. "
"The arrogant powers have stood against the divine force throughout history and today the arrogant regime in the United States is the biggest obstacle against the cause of the prophets," he added.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=131953&s...
I can't believe the above picture!!…..They look like a group of buffoons, that have no idea
there are large problems in all of their countries…..People suffering, joblessness, rioting, and
a gulf and it's coastal states might be swept away by a sea of tar balls….And, the fools are
joshing away, tapping each others backs, shucking and jiving…I say get back to work you
idiots!!
When people like Ahmadinejad expresses optimism at how things are going, it's time
for the fools to wake up and smell the coffee!!
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Now you like the Europeans? This is comical. I thought O was the bad guy for trying to emulate the European democratic socialist/welfare state model.
Right, hence why Reagen and Bush put us in debt because you cant cut taxes and spend alot of money at the same time. You want to spend money you have to raise taxes to do it. Politicians do what is politically expedient for them at the time and then pray the bottom doesnt drop out while they are in office so they can then pass the coming disaster along to the next guy.
That's smart Jim. Thankfully you only have one vote.
Larry, your argument is specious. Let's go one at a time. First, Reagan and Bush were absolutely correct to push a tax cutting policy. Kennedy proved, along with any other tax cutting President, that this raises REVENUE. This is a key and undisputable economic fact. Second, Presidents don't spend, congress does.
There is a great misconception that presidents are responsible for economic realities. They are not. They are only responsible for guiding the policy.
Larry, if you wish to continue this discussion, it will only be relevent if we talk about which party was in power in congress for the period of time being discussed.
Even if cutting the budgets slows the recovery it will in the long run be best. If we don't take the pain not it will be far worse later. That's a hard sell to people who can't see past the next election, or news cycyle!
And worst of all is that Progressive's don't solve problems they compound they with crisis legislation and blind oversight.
Right, hence why Reagen and Bush put us in debt because you cant cut taxes and spend alot of money at the same time. You want to spend money you have to raise taxes to do it.
Actually, their tax cuts increased the revenues further than a tax increase would have. Sounds odd, but if the economy grows in response to lower taxes, the actual amount brought in can be greater than it would be with a higher tax rate.
Not that you'd bother thinking about this instead of simply squawking like a good little parrot.
What Obama and all the freaks at the G-20 donot understand is…..America is the last place on earth for freedom and if Obama thinks in his small little communist mind that we are giving it up…he is an idoit. Worst president in American History…is Obama.
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