If You Think Government Is Too Big Now, Just Wait…
by Dan Mitchell…Until the politicians figure out a way of imposing a national sales tax. More specifically, the crowd in Washington is salivating at the idea of adding a value-added tax (a European-style national sales tax) on top of the income tax. A VAT will allow them to finance a big expansion in the burden of government, which is exactly what happened in Europe after the tax was levied (notwithstanding promises that the revenue would be used to lower and/or eliminate other taxes). Here’s a worrisome Bloomberg report featuring comments by one of President Obama’s main political allies:
“There’s going to have to be revenue in this budget,” said Podesta, Clinton’s former chief of staff and co-chairman of President Barack Obama’s transition team, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt,” airing today. A so-called consumption tax would “create a balance” with European and Japanese economies and “could potentially have a substantial effect on competitiveness,” said Podesta. Value-added taxes in Europe and Japan encourage savings by taxing consumption. Podesta said such a tax may be regressive, but can be balanced by exempting some products and using “the money to support low-wage workers.”
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The key to linking everything together can be found by researching Yuri Bezmenov.
Conservatives should stress the point that sales taxes, value-added taxes, and all corporate taxes, actually, are regressive because they wind up being paid by the poor, who can't avoid them. Conservatives don't like to talk about progressive and regressive taxation but arguing that a tax impacts the poor more than the rich is a great way to get the left on board to fight against it.
I Feel Safer Already!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELa4S5M4V8I
"Government is not the solution, government is the problem."
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1522...
To check ourselves, it is always interesting to view our Nation through the prisim of an outsiders view; Europe, Canada, Asia. Currently, some parts of the globe are looking at America with a cocked eyebrow, wondering just what in the world is going on. Frankly, nobody knows.
Interesting article about taking America back.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1521...
“A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins.” —Benjamin Franklin
Hey Cowboy, I've been reading your posts and am throughly impressed with your content. Could you give your opinion on Yuri Bezmenov. I just found out about him yesterday and couldn't stop reading. His explanations are even more basic than Alinsky. Thanks.
Speaking of the Government, here is a rather interesting article on the Liberal Fascist Militants:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1520...
"America’s Radical Left: Morally bankrupt – mental misfits
Sooner or later, the rest of Americans will realize that they have been arguing with morally bankrupt – mental misfits and take appropriate measures. A country run by nuts is run for benefit of the nuts, at everyone else’s expense.
Sooner or later, the sane will have to put these folks in a straitjacket and get on with saving their nation from mass insanity. That day draws near…"
I would stop shopping if the VAT tax was imposed. I have enough clothes, shoes, etc. to last a long time! I remember seeing a blog where a couple tried for a whole year not to purchase anything new. That would be my challenge! I pay 8.7% sales tax now and try to purchase on the internet to avoid most taxes. Bring it on!
Mr. Podesta, How about the low wage workers supporting themselves for a change? I am tired of doing it for them.
"Value-added taxes in Europe and Japan encourage savings by taxing consumption" – So in other words your to STUPID to save on yoru own and if you believe this crap … then you do have serious problems….
TAX the hell out of us … it makes it all better …. go screw yourself ….
A great article. I find myself checking their website more and more for straight forward articles.
Yuri Bezmenov is a name I hadn't heard publicly in many years. He used to get some press and you are correct that his explanations are simple, straightforward and basic. Like Alinskey, he understood that people need short snippets; clear, conscise and clean points to focus on. Here is a link you might enjoy:
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/2007/...
Look at his point #1, it is simple and conscise:
1. YURI BEZMENOV: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate and open. You can see it with your own eyes…. It has nothing to do with espionage.
If people study and become familiar with Bezmenov, Alinskey, Lennin, Marx and even Sun Tzu, they can see many things happening with their very own eys. Things happening every day; little things that by themselves appear inconsequential, but added together over the course of a year, five years, a decade, are monmumental and life changing.
Thanks. I thought I was nuts reading about him and then not seeing him discussed anywhere. Indeed Yuri is only the "squeaking" cog in a much larger system. While the Soviet Union is gone, I believe we are now experiencing some of the damage inflicted on us when Breshnev said "we will bury you".
No they shouldn't. They should either shut up, get out of the way, and let the Democrats drive another nail into their Obama-coffin, or they should do everything they can possibly do to make sure the income tax is repealed, or show to have never even been properly ratified in the first place, and get rid of the IRS, prior to the sales tax being imposed.
NEVER EVER LET THEM PUT A V.A.T. IN UNTIL THE INCOME TAX IS OUT!
Anyone with any understanding knows this is ludicrous. This is supposedly meant to increase saving? Isn't that what the politicians have been saying is stagnating our economy, now that it is based on spending? It is obvious that a value added tax will force a decrease in spending; therefore, ending in a net decrease in Federal revenue. Thus, a new, additional tax will have to be added to make up for the losses. The vicious cycle will continue to retrograde until our economy really is in shambles. They want a value added tax? Fine. Do away with federal income taxes… also known as the Fair Tax.
No they shouldn't. They should either shut up, get out of the way, and let the Democrats drive another nail into their Obama-coffin, or they should do everything they can possibly do to make sure the income tax is repealed, or shown to have never even been properly ratified in the first place, and get rid of the IRS, prior to the sales tax being imposed.
NEVER EVER LET THEM PUT A V.A.T. IN UNTIL THE INCOME TAX IS OUT!
Wow – it does sound like what is happening – I printed it off for some light lunch reading today. I will also send thelink to my Congressmen.
We are all mere "squeaking cogs" in the much larger gear. The keys here are information, knowledge and understanding. That will be our only salvation; to fully be able to battle the eneny on our terms. For two generations, they have used Alinskey as their battle manual, and have trounced US soundly. This is a war of ideology; for the hearts and minds of people, and for the soul of a Nation. We better not falter.
Using the squeaking cog analogy, if we all are involved, if we all are vocal, if we create enough of a disturbance and shine the light of day on this social disease, we have a chance at prevailing. It is said that sunshine is the best disenfectant; our nation is polluted with the social disease of Liberal Fascism. In this situation, the Solution to Pollution is Dilution…….
I was also thinking back to Obama's mother. Boy does she fit Yuri's description of a useful idiot amazingly exactly what the KGB envisioned.
I know the liberals think the evil rich white people should pay the freight for the rest of the country, but somehow it escapes them that boneheaded moves like this actually hurt the working class. Last time they tried this type of move, they killed the luxury boat industry, which employed tons of working class joes.
If people feel the pinch and are discouraged from spending money, you'll see a huge drop in landscape companies, nail salons, day care providers/nannies, decorators, restaurants, and other industries that rely on their customers' willingness to part with discretionary income in order for the businesses to survive.
If everyone stopped paying their taxes for a set amount of time,MAYBE Washington would get the drift???
So does her son………
Keep fighting America – Keep fighting and join a Tea Party …
ED: Okay, so what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people?
YURI: Well, the immediate thing that comes to mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of REAL patriotism, number one. Number two, to explain [to] them the real danger of socialist, communist, welfare state, Big Brother government…. The moment at least part of [the] United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to FORCE their government… to stop aiding Communism.
Be sure to watch the interviews (maybe YouTube?). The man is very well spoken and very entertaining on intellectual level. Additionally, there is a very long "Love Letter to the U.S." where he extensively explains why he defected and why he is exposing all. Warning — It's one of those media's that is hard to put down.
I added the video of his interview with G.Edward Griffin on my blog last October, during the campaign. It's here if anyone would like to view it. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezm...
Thanks. The more I study Bezmenov the more everything comes together.
A lot of those businesses will go cash-only to keep transactions off their books and avoid the VAT. Organized crime is going to LOVE a VAT.
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A bit of History:
Norman Mattoon Thomas (1884-1968) was a leading American socialist, pacifist and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America. He also founded what is now the ACLU. As a candidate in 1944, he said: "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will become a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
He also said: "I no longer need to run as a Presidential candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has adopted our platform."
Take The Swine Flu Vaccine Or You’re Fired
Did that headline get your attention? It should, because as shocking as it sounds, that is exactly what employees at some hospitals around the United States are now being told. Now employees at these hospitals will be forced to choose between their job and taking the swine flu vaccine.
What would you do if you were forced to choose between your job and taking the swine flu vaccine against your will?
In an economy such as this, it can be a heart-wrenching decision.
In New York, health care workers who refuse to take the swine flu vaccine will not be able to work anywhere else in the state due to a new regulation requiring workers there to take the swine flu vaccine.
According to New York state health department spokeswoman Claire Pospisil, the new regulation, which took effect on August 13th, requires all hospitals and health care facilities to provide proof that all of their workers are vaccinated for the swine flu. If they cannot provide such proof by the deadline, these institutions will face fines of $2,000 for the first offense and up to $5,000 for subsequent offenses.
This new policy is causing a lot of controversy in cities such as Albany, New York where about 25,000 hospital and health facility employees will be affected. Not only will doctors and nurses be forced to get swine flu injections, but also janitors and food service workers will be forced to comply or will be faced with termination.
St. Peter's Hospital spokesman Elmer Streeter was very clear about what this new policy means for their employees:
"We will be requiring it of all our employees as a condition of employment."
Some hospital employees in Charleston, West Virginia are facing a similar situation. While a decision is still being made whether or not the swine flu vaccine will be required this year, employees at Charleston Area Medical Center are being forced to get seasonal flu shots this year by December 15th or they will be fired.
CAMC Director of Epidemiology Terrie Lee told the media the following about this new policy:
"Our board of trustees and administrators had been discussing this for a couple years. We decided this year to make it a mandatory process for all of our employees."
So will more hospitals adopt similar guidelines? Will tens of thousands of doctors and nurses across the United States be forced to choose between their careers and taking the swine flu vaccine?
Probably.
You see, the U.S. government realizes that it would be a mistake for them to directly force the American people to take the swine flu vaccine. Just today, Barack Obama said that the U.S. government will only "strongly recommend" that Americans take the swine flu vaccine.
Instead, it is likely that the U.S. government and world health authorities will start to put pressure on employers and schools to come up with their own mandatory regulations.
So while other countries around the world are forcing their citizens to take the swine flu shot, in the United States you are likely to be required to take the vaccine by your employer or by your school.
So what would you do in such a case?
Would you quit your job just to avoid the vaccine?
Would you quit school to avoid it?
Or would you take the swine flu vaccine and risk being killed or crippled for life as thousands of Americans were after taking the swine flu vaccine in 1976?
A lot of Americans are going to be faced with some really tough choices in the coming months.
Meanwhile, a shocking "facility quarantine order" document for swine flu victims has been discovered on the Internet. This document from the Iowa department of public health is meant to inform swine flu victims that they are to leave their homes and be quarantined in a government facility. This form contains stunning phrases such as "quarantine in your home and other less restrictive alternatives are not acceptable".
Basically this form was prepared in the event that authorities decide that it is time to forcibly relocate swine flu victims from their homes to a government detention center.
Do you find all of this chilling?
You should.
Let us hope that these moves towards mandatory vaccinations and forced quarantines do not go any further. So far the swine flu has only killed a few hundred people around the globe and the massive overreaction by authorities to this disease seemingly makes no sense at this point.
Fusion centers…..
good stuff Cowboy, here's one from a Valley Forge home.
Franklin fans, I keep this on the fridge, my boys check it when they get out the milk.
"Any society that would give up a little Liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
Hi woofdog, really excellent info. Bet I can add a different angle. I worked in immunology years ago, basics still the sme. Now, Everybody's going to get the flu before vaccines are availible. It's broken out all over in the east already, because school's in…Three of us had it in my house this week. Dr' s office is swamped. It's in every school district. By the time you know you have it, it's almost over and you've infected everyone you spent time with. Vaccine's good idea, Probably too late for real effect.
As for forced quarunteen, in this modern age, we forget that it was the best way to handle infectious disease 100 years ago, before the medical care we have become used to. There just weren't medicines then, and so the town Doc slapped a quarrunteen sign on the house. Still SOP with new highly infectious disease for which there is no preventative, or cure to prevent transmission.
So let's all damn those horrible pharma industries only out to make vulgar money. Yup, that's it.
Norman Mattoon Thomas (1884-1968).
Here is a video of the Washington Acorn Extorting a Washington state WAMU, makes you think why WAMU went down.
http://mywhitehouse.org/2009/09/29/acorn-extortin...
Podesta = Is this the same guy who is Hussein direct connection to ACON?
What kind of fricking logic is that Podesta? A VAT will put us on balance with the Japanese and Europeans????? WTF??????
Hey Cowboy Logic, maybe you didn't know this but… REAGAN IS DEAD.
As long as this new tax doesn't impact negatively economic growth… I'm okay with it.
Yes, we know that. We get news slowly in the hinterlands and that news just showed up about six months ago. We are stil upset that they cancelled the Public Works Project where they were going to carve his bust on Mt. Rushmore. It is further disconcerting that they have decided to replace Reagan with Borat Obongo on Mt. Rushmore.
Yes, Reagan is dead; but in the immortal words of the Right Revurnddd Jesseeee Jacksonnnn when speaking of his hero Martin the Luther: "Keep the Dream Alive……………"
Government can be done right?
You really need to be on Comedy Central!
Lets tick off some of Givernment's shining successes:
Medicare: Broke
Medicaide: Broke
Social Security: Broke (What happened to Algore's "Lock Box"?)
AmTrak: Broke
CONrail: Broke
Interstate Highway System: Broke
US Post Office: Broke
The only thing the Givernment has run with any modicum of success over the last 200 years is the Military, and that would open up a whole new debate, if you have ever had the pleasure to deal with the Vetrans Administration
You get the point.
Slither back to Huff-n-puff, you're sorely missed………..
1- You thougth Obama was here to serve us? Isn't it obvious that he's here to help other countries, the big companies and himself?
2- Government wants more of our money… who's surprised? Social Sec tax takes in over $900 million this year, but Obama only budgeted less than $700 million to Social Sec… Hmmm… wonder why it's failing. Obama is killing our defecit… spending WAY more than he's receiving in taxes. Instead of giving money to Ghadaffi's family, or Acorn, or some other BS… pay off our deficit! Nobody in gov is responsible for anything. So when they can legitimize (to themselves) collecting more of our money they WILL! Are you aware of how little a percentage our president and his vice paid in last years taxes? They're obviously much better than the rest of us.
"It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins."
Too bad your side supports the dismantling of America's educational and scientific infrastructure.
Yes.
You missed the point. Completely.
You people are getting scared, eh? Good. You should be, the times they are a changin'……….
We have heard that before.
no, I just disagree with your point. And so does anyone who voted for Obama.
We live in a Post-Reagan era. We all know that Government isn't the complete answer to everyone's problems. But YES, yes Government can play a part of the solution.
no, I just disagree with your point. And so does anyone who voted for Obama.
We live in a Post-Reagan era. We all know that Government isn't the complete answer to everyone's problems. But YES, yes Government can play a part of the solution to a lot of our problems.
And so does anyone who voted for Obama?
What can I say?
What would you want me to say?
What could I say?
My condolences……….
And what dream is that? To eliminate government and replace it with plutocratic anarchy or imperialism? Let only the biggest business prevail to have all power? something like that?
No sir. Government can be done right. YES WE CAN. R.I.P. Ronnie Ray-Gun.
Government done right:
* US Constitution & all of the amendments
* Compulsory education
* FDR's New Deal
* GI Bill
* LBJ's Great Society
* Civil Rights Laws
* United States Interstate System
* United States Army, Air Force, Marines, etc.
* NASA
* Anti-trust laws
… did I miss anything else?
Perhaps if you don't know what to say, maybe that's a good indication that you should shut your mouth?
Why does this sound so ominous??
-"""Podesta said such a tax may be regressive, but can be balanced by exempting some products and using “the money to support low-wage workers.”"""-
Excellent article on Wall Street bailing out on "The Obama."
Once they shut his money off, we'll see how popular he is……….
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnis...
"The funniest story I've heard lately came from a former Wall Street executive and longtime Democrat who anxiously recounted a recent conversation with Obama.
The executive said he told the president that he's at a disadvantage because he's relatively inexperienced in economic matters during a time of economic crisis. "That's why I have Valerie," came Obama's reply.
"Valerie" is senior adviser Valerie Jarrett — a Chicago real-estate attorney and one of Obama's closest friends, who has deep ties to the Windy City's Democratic political machine.
Now you know why Wall Street is so nervous. "
Correction, never let them put in a VAT (or NRST) until the amendment making income taxes Constitutional is repealed because, otherwise, even if they take it out, they can put it right back in again.
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