Lame Christian Media Misses ACORN Scandal
by Doug GilesSince ACORN’s crass corruption came into sharp focus a few weeks ago, Andrew Breitbart has not only been part and parcel of cracking ACORN’s nuts, but he has also been pointing out the ludicrous lack of reporting on ACORN’s asininities by what used to be the mainstream media.
Breitbart, via the ACORN controversy, has shown the “mainstream” to be everything but conventional and more akin to an irrelevant, unwatched drip of ideological flotsam that’s entirely in the septic tank for the lunatic left.
The Daily Show’s John Stewart—hardly a right-winger—also pointed out this willful ACORN media blindness this past month, as only Stewart can. Yep, it appears the motto of the generic broadcasting boys who’re bent to the left has become: “We distort. We decide.”
Most folks who have a lick of sense have long understood that the media has been mollycoddling the Left and their lovers for quite some time, but this ACORN controversy pummeled us over the flippin’ head with this hypocritical fact.
Now . . . I get that the former MSM is the mouthpiece for the Amerika that embraces Eurosocialism and all its weirdness, but the question I have, as a goofy sinner who’s part of Christ’s church, is this: Who the heck is the Christian media in the tank for? Their reportage on this ACORN slop has been conspicuously inconspicuous.
Why the silence of the lambs, Jesus people? I would have thought you guys would be all over this stuff like stink on a monkey. But alas, the holy ones are wholly silent.
So, why should there be interest and serious reporting of this mega-tale by the broadcast brethren? Well, I’m glad you boys finally asked, seeing that we’re now about six weeks out.
Here’s a reason why: Two Christian kids, instead of sitting on their butts in church singing Kum Ba Yah and pulling lint out of their navels in some vapid youth group, saw a multi-million dollar Goliath of crime and corruption fueled by our tax dollars and rose to the occasion, creatively infiltrating an insidious environment and bringing a despicable organization to its knees. That’s why. Giles and O’Keefe went biblical. Note that.
Hey, Icthus crowd . . . is that not good enough for you to broadcast? It happened yesterday and was—and still is—huge. I would think you would jump on it because I’ve watched your Christian shows, listened to your radio programs and surfed some of your hallelujah websites, and they could use a Red Bull because they’re bo-ring. Geez people, South Park is even on this!
You’ve ignored this colossal story as you stand on the sidelines of the culture war, watching history being made by two gutsy believers as you ogle some spike-haired Dove award winner or some cheesy, horse-toothed minister who puts the “ky” in icky. You ladies and gents must have some kind of crazy job security.
No doubt some program directors and GMs are getting in a hissy right now and are saying, “Our shows only focus on Jesus!” Try to tell me with a straight face that the Christ of the Bible would be disinterested in two of His young followers devastating an organization that is on film aiding and abetting the sex trafficking of 13-year-olds. Go ahead. I’ll wait. (Insert the sound of crickets chirping here.)
Here’s a new motto I have for your networks: “Don’t Report. Don’t Complain.”
Look, boys, this Giles and O’Keefe caper is nothin’ but a nation-shaking event spawned by believers that has saved our nation millions of dollars, crippled a nefarious enterprise and encouraged a generation of young people to pull up their pants and get a life. As the Christian media, I would think you guys would be shouting that from a rooftop. So, why aren’t you?
As Breitbart called the MSM out, I’m calling you gents out: Why the lack of reporting and support? We understand MSNBC’s silence. We don’t understand the mute Christian media.
FOX gets the power of this story. Talk radio gets it. The Treasury Department gets it, as does the DOJ, the House and Senate, the IRS, the US Census Bureau, Stewart, Leno, South Park, bloggers on the left and right, DC think-tanks, major publishers, Hollywood and leading speakers’ bureaus—they all get it. It appears as if everyone gets the gravity and glory of this story except you and the secular left, who refuse to report on it. Interesting. Very interesting . . .
*Special props to Gary Bauer, Joseph Farah, Tim Maddoux, Chuck and Larry Bates, Salem, Marvin Olasky, onenewsnow.com, CBN and Gary DeMar for tackling this hot topic.
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Great article. Love the photo.
I personally believe, if the MSM and the Christina Media had committed as much time and resources to the ACORN, and Obama scandals as they did to the "Balloon Boy" story within the past 24 hours, they would have gotten to the bottom of it and understood it.
Out of sight, out of mind……….
"KY in the icky ?"" HAHAHA that's fantastic.
Now to the news…….
hey they're not listening because there's nothing to listen to.
like the narrow casting that's been going on for awhile now. i can buy the missourian weaver and watch peruvian cooking schools because that is all i care about !! weaving in the midwest and Andean chilidogs.
as brooks said, we are bowling alone. the msm has already lost their audience, they are the choir, they are talking to themselves and if we listened we would hear LALALALALALALALA !!! they just dont have their hands over their ears because they're writing and trying to defend their livelihood.
"pulling lint out of their navels in some vapid youth group"
Can I get an "Amen"?!
God bless James and Hannah! Keep kicking butt and taking names, we've got your back.
Well, Glenn Beck is preaching, and his choir is growing. Yesterday, after filing the last tax return and watching Anita The Tongue Dunn, the only thing that made me feel any better was to donate money to Hannah and James and Andrew. Y'all should try it–it helps.
Great piece, and thank you for giving South Park the credit that they are due.
As a christian, I want this information. I want to know what issues to pray for and I want to protect my freedoms the best I can.
Christian Media—you would be performing a Godly service by keeping us informed.
Further, anything Christian, any thing that could be construed as "Right", or "Conservative" has become taboo. People are scared, cautious. Afraid of the "Thought Police"; afraid of being ridiculed, or afraid of worse yet: retribution.
It is a sad state of affairs in this country, when people have "gone to ground" with their beliefs. They do not want to risk being stigmatized; they do not want to risk being branded as social outcasts. They do not want to risk being "one of those type people". Consequently, the Left has made the Right afraid, and ashamed. Evertone wants to simply "maintain". Maintain their lifestyle, their standing in the community, their reputations and creature comforts.
Nobody wants ostracized, and that is the game that the Liberal Fascist Militant Left has played so well through the years. Look what they tried to do to Sarah Palin, and look what they are trying to do with Michelle Bachman…
Further, anything Christian, anything that could be construed as "Right", or "Conservative" has become taboo. People are scared, cautious. Afraid of the "Thought Police"; afraid of being ridiculed, or afraid of worse yet: retribution.
It is a sad state of affairs in this country, when people have "gone to ground" with their beliefs. They do not want to risk being stigmatized; they do not want to risk being branded as social outcasts. They do not want to risk being "one of those type people". Consequently, the Left has made the Right afraid, and ashamed. Evertone wants to simply "maintain". Maintain their lifestyle, their standing in the community, their reputations and creature comforts.
Nobody wants ostracized, and that is the game that the Liberal Fascist Militant Left has played so well through the years. Look what they tried to do to Sarah Palin, and look what they are trying to do with Michelle Bachman…
Further, anything Christian, anything that could be construed as "Right", or "Conservative" has become taboo. People are scared, cautious. Afraid of the "Thought Police"; afraid of being ridiculed, or afraid of worse yet: retribution.
It is a sad state of affairs in this country, when people have "gone to ground" with their beliefs. They do not want to risk being stigmatized; they do not want to risk being branded as social outcasts. They do not want to risk being "one of those type people". Consequently, the Left has made the Right afraid, and ashamed. Everyone wants to simply "maintain". Maintain their lifestyle, their standing in the community, their reputations and creature comforts.
Nobody wants ostracized, and that is the game that the Liberal Fascist Militant Left has played so well through the years. Look what they tried to do to Sarah Palin, and look what they are trying to do with Michelle Bachman…
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I don't get my news from "Christian" media. 700 Club? I don't even watch TV. I imagine most "Christians" just watch Fox. I've tracked the story on biggovernment since it broke. Nevertheless, thanks for the post.
I agree Cowboy… Christians and the Right are forever being intertwined as the same thing…. and people are trying to shed either the Right or Christian label…
I listen to Christian radio and they reported the ACORN story right along with Fox and other talk-radio. When they reported the news, they reported on ACORN. However, when they were doing devotional time, no, there was no talk of ACORN because it wasn't appropriate. I don't understand the hostility toward Christian media when one of the largest outlets of Christian radio, American Family Radio, fully reported the situation.
Personally, I don't know why the Christian media hasn't grabbed onto this story like white on rice… I don't listen to the Christian media all that often (though I did stumble across a Christian Commentary radio show that TORE up Arne Duncan)… But maybe they have gotten wussyfied and are afraid to 'offend' people… Though I'm pretty sure Jesus told us we would be persecuted for our beliefs either way… :-/
Personally, I don't know why the Christian media hasn't grabbed onto this story like white on rice… I don't listen to the Christian media all that often (though I did stumble across a Christian Commentary radio show that TORE up Arne Duncan, so I'm pretty sure our local Christian media is tearing up the Obama admin)… But maybe they have gotten wussyfied and are afraid to 'offend' people… Though I'm pretty sure Jesus told us we would be persecuted for our beliefs either way… :-/
Once you realize the higher levels of organized religions (the big players) and the likes (World Council of Churches) were co-opted a long time ago by socialism, you will understand who they are quietly in the tank for.
Religion was once key to population control. It has never really gone away.
Not that I don't believe in something. It's just that I don't believe a stone edifice on a street corner is essential to one's beliefs either.
Your mileage may vary…
I'm wondering if the Christian outlets that are tax exempt see the ACORN scandal as a political issue and fear losing their tax-exempt status. For those that are just fearful, I say to you, "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand." Ephesians 6:12-13
Great point. The greatest fear that tax-exempt organizations fear is not Satan, it is not even a half filled collection plate. it is the fear of loosing the tax-exempt status. That is the Holy Grail of modern day religiosity.
It's only flak if they miss…….
The Catholic Church heirarchy has been directing money to ACORN for years and continues to do so. The Bishops' General fund disburses money to these community organizing group as part of their collective / socialist mentality. Helping the poor and underprivledged. This is entirely appropriate for them but they should not be blind to the end users use of those funds. Get with it Roman Catholics, find out where your donations to the plate are going.
Well, I'm not really sure it's a topic Christian media should be tackling… they have other issues to deal with… and some people have tackled it… so I don't really get the point of this article…
I think we (Christians) have forgotten that following Jesus is the original counter-culture movement. If we would sell all of our "church" buildings and use those billions of dollars to engage and minister to people we would see an almost immediate impact on our society….Now if I can only find the right tie to impress the sisters this weekend.
i totally agree with you. The Catholic Church has always been in the tank with globalist philosophies. Infact, there rarely has been a Cotholic Pope that was NOT an Illuminati. They are so politically entrenched in global politics, it's disgusting. Look at the reception Obama got from the Pope. Who knows what was discussed behind closed doors.
So as far as them supporting Acorn, not a suprise.
I totally agree with you. The Catholic Church has always been in the tank with globalist philosophies. Infact, there rarely has been a Cotholic Pope that was NOT an Illuminati. They are so politically entrenched in global politics, it's disgusting. Look at the reception Obama got from the Pope. Who knows what was discussed behind closed doors.
So as far as them supporting Acorn, not a suprise.
Right now, Christian churches are afraid to talk politics at all. The big churches are dealing with issues like gay members and openly gay ministers in committed relationships being placed in the pulpit. The left-wing liberals have infiltrated the mainstream Protestant churches in order to take them down from the inside. Many of the publications printed for the churches are controlled by liberals. Lutheran Magazine is one of those and for the past few years, every issue got progressivelymore… well, PROGRESSIVE. The smaller churches are afraid of being put under a microscope; they've been demonized as being fundamental. All of them are afraid that they are going to lose their tax-exempt status because there are groups pushing for it. Most church leaders I know and many churchgoers are of the opinion that soon pastors will be charged with hate crimes for just bringing up homosexuality in the church.
You need to understand the Catholic church's doctrine and see if it fits in with the Bible. The Christian community has been vocal on this issue. They are conservatives…did you hear me? I didn't say Republicans. Some conservatives can be Republicans, but Republicans are not conservative. Conservatives are mostly registered Independents and Libertarians. If you want to know where you stand with God, try this website. http://www.wayofthemaster.com
You mean Protestant Fundamentalists I presume.
They're too busy imaging the day they'll be floating in the air while you all die terrible deaths.
What do they care?
Sounds like you've got a personal problem, Doug. I suggest you try a church where serious people take Jesus Christ seriously. And that doesn't require humorlessness, by the way.
You sir are an idiot- Christians in general are conservatives, many conservatives watch Fox News. Heck if it wasn't for Christians against gay marriage and abortion THERE WOULD BE NO GOP AT ALL. I swear stupidity should be a felony, you should be in jail for a long, long time.
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Who is the Christian media? Christianity Today? I honestly have no idea who he's talking about.
Here here all liberals belong in the gulag!
The Catholic Church is WAY bigger than the Christian media. The odd point about churches as not-for-profits, though, is that they don't have to file the 1023 application for recognition as a 501(c)(3), and they don't have to file the annual form 990. Hey, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT GETTING GOV'T MONEY THAT'S AOK W/ME. The whole ACORN problem is BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING OUR TAX MONEY, OMG.
The reason the Christian Media is not saying much, is because of the so called law of Church and state. They have strict rules they have to follow or will be penalized or even taken of the air if they do some things. They have had to tread lightly as it is, to not get messed with by the FCC. I know because alot of the Christian websites that have live webcasts, have said that there are things that they can't say on tv, that that thay can on the internet. I would rather them keep preaching just JESUS than get taken off the air. The only Christian news I listen to is CBN and prophacy shows.
THERE IS A HUGE DISCONNECT, i think we are looking at a possible time of revival, if we come back to god as a nation. big things can happen. are we willing to come back to HIM, that is the question…
the same thing that is going on within the tea party movement is going on in the spiritual world. the real "proof" is yet to be seen, will we as a people of God stand up or fall back into our "safe " pathetic little "religious" lives. HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT DENYING THE POWER THEREOF for crying out loud, read the bible, lots of political things happened, men and women of god affected the lives of nations… but there is a catch. we have to rely on GOD. ARE YOU READY.. MR GILES I AM READY. I WISH I WAS A BOUT 30 YEARS YOUNGER, BUT I AM READY NONE THE LESS
we are living is historic times in so may dimensions.
Worldview Times has covered it and a lot of other current topics, from a Christian perspective: http://www.worldviewtimes.com/
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the reason that the main stream media doesn’t cover any of the important political issues is because they rae owned buy the Arab nation’s and the arab’s don’t want the american people to know what is going on this way obama and his corrupt Dumbocrat’s can work their evil plan’s out without much interruption they want to keep up in the dark but thank’s to Bretbart and James and Hannah and Big Government we started getting some good news reporting on all of the corruption in our Government now it’s up to us to do something about all of this corruption like ACORN/SEIU/AFL-CIO/ACLU/TEAMSTER’S/STEELWORKER’S/UAW. these corrupt orginization’s must be put out of buisness and out of our Government they have no buisness in our Government offices they heve no place in our constitution there fore we must demand that they be banned from any Government property or offices and we must also put a stop to all of the lobying those idiott’s in washington work for the Citizen’s of the united state’s we the people should be the ones to present issues to congress and senate instead of those big corporation’s presenting them and buying their way into our Government we must stop our elected official’s from consorting with these lobyest and takeing pay off’s this is why our country is in the mess it’s in now.
Yes, the time and resources.
Someone tweeted the news flash and then there was an avalanche of Twitter hysteria, so I saw the event unfold here through the window of the accompanying helicopter on my computer screen in real time sans commercials.
Cable coverage panders to the lowest common denominator; even FOX News, morning through afternoon, is borderline far too often.
Follow the MONEY! If there’s a buck in it for them, the religious organizations will say whatever you want them to say. If they don’t see a buck in it for them, they won’t say anything.
It is interesting too read some posts that are concerned with separation of Church and State issues. When in fact the founding fathers said the state should and must stay out of church issues due to "Church of England" type issues. If you read the founding fathers they were not saying the church had to stay out of state issues. How we have come to except the perverse notion that church's must stay quiet shows how far we have fallen from grace.
It is interesting too read some posts that are concerned with separation of Church and State issues. When in fact the founding fathers said the state should and must stay out of church issues due to "Church of England" type issues. If you read the founding fathers, they were not saying the church had to stay out of state issues. How we have come to except the perverse notion that church's must stay quiet shows how far we have fallen from grace.
Here's why: The Christian media is now too chicken to get too deep into politics. Just look at how many Catholics have sold out to political correctness over moral correctness. Leftism has even been preached from the pulpit; and I'm not talking about tolerance and love thy neighbor, or even love thine enemy…because Jesus invented that stuff, not the left. I'm talking about the complete atrophy of the 'onward Christian soldier' spirit. They recognize a renewed climate of hostility toward Christianity and don't wish to be fed to the lions. If they don't want to go on TV, fine, frankly I'd rather not suffer the indignity of another televangelist with big hair. But they should fight from the pulpit – as they once did so well. When I need a re-boot, I seek out Rev. Billy Graham on the web. Old School y'all.
Yeah, that's it Ace – you've figured 'em all out. How did you unravel their encrypted e-vites?
Could it be…Oh, I dunno…SATAN!
I'm not quite sure which silent "Jesus people" the writer is referring to, so I did a quick search on a few "hallelujah websites" and found the opposite to be true.
The first few places I checked not only reported the story, but most also linked back to biggovernment.com.
WorldNetDaily (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag...
OneNewsNow (http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?i...
The Christian Broadcasting Network (http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2009/Septembe...
Rapture Ready (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=109090&...
I could do further searches, but I don't think it's necessary. If the first four Christian media outlets I searched proved to report the story, then it goes without saying that many other REAL Christian sites probably did, as well.
There was a time I let those unspoken attitudes shut me down, drive me to silence, avoid disagreements, and I effectlively betrayed the Conservative point of view.. Today, there's no room and no time for allowing that. I'll challenge anyone, anywhere, any time, on the liberal BS. I won't be shut down again.
NO MORE SHAME!!!
What about the Burger Builders? Would you like fries with that?
Conservatism in common is the main reason I hang around with Christians. I love that they "get it" about individualism, personal responsibility, the need to live and govern by the Constitution, etc. If Christians were all liberal, I'd have far few associations with them.
Still, some Christians aren't nearly so tolerant of me (the atheist). I don't mind. I won't be denied my chance to participate in kicking this leftist horde out of power.
I'm surprised.
I thought this particular topic would have brought all the crazies out of the woodwork on a rainey Friday night. It is about time for palmtree and justwondering to show up from littlegreenfootballs…………
This is HUGE, and the Pms media say nothing, and my Christian Family says nothing? WELL, these truly are dark days! As the saying goes "For evil to advance, it only takes good people to stand on the sidelines"
LOL — Truer words were never spoken! (Funny as hell, too.)
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The jingle in his pocket
The crackle on his hip
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I will blurt them out
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I think the IRS rules are the only reasons churches must stay out of state issues, if by "state issues," you primarily mean electioneering for candidates and political parties.
If by "state issues," you mean, for instance, religious services in public schools, our Constitution forbids it. I know, I know, we did it for many years. In my view, it was against the Constitution then, as well.
WND covered it too, although not in as much detail.
Don't worry, WarDog. I think Pastor Giles overstated the case by at least half.
Oh, is that what he means? 700 Club? I was wondering because I've never heard the term "Christian Media". You're right, for news most Christians probably watch Fox. TV became a wasteland long ago.
Me either.
Not all Christian programs report on the news – especially because it may affect their tax exemption status. Christian News Networks – like SRN News (admittedly, one of the worst news networks I know of) do report on the news. Generally, in mainstream Christian Denominations, you won't find anyone like Reverend Wright, who openly talked about politics from the pulpit. It's not that they don't care about politics…it's just not what the pulpit is for, which is for the edification of believers, not the recruiting of political followers. I don't know exactly what "Christian Media" you are referring to or what you expect from them.
Pat Robertson at CBN is one of the most political Christian figures that I know of, although I haven't watched his show very much because of some theological differences. If any "Christian show" would address the ACORN deal, it would probably be his. Likewise, the political arm of Focus on the Family.
I had never heard that Giles and O'Keefe are Christians, and I think that's irrelevant. I also think it's irrelevant if any Christian media pick up the story, as most people don't get their news from just one source anyway.
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Troll!
The true meaning of Separation of Church and State is to keep government out of the church, NOT Church out of the Government. They have it all backwards. Why do you think God is mentioned (or used to be before the minority whined and complained) all throughout our government, on our money, in the Pledge of Alegance, 10 Commandments in Federal Building? It's because faith gives people morals, morals influence laws…bingo…if they take faith out of the equation, then morals are taken out of the equation, then there is nothing to guide the person. http://www.wayofthemaster.com
Agreed!!
Good article, but I'm not exactly sure who the Christian media is. Some of the Catholic blogs I follow have talked about this, as they should. All the corruption is a moral issue. On the other hand, look at the persecution taking place against those who stand for good. We are warned about this however
Why is it that ACORN gets to keep their tax-free status and they most certainly don't keep their organizations separate, yet the church who should be able to speak, is not able to because it would lose it's tax-exempt status in a heartbeat. Church was meant to influence government with the morals. Why is it that it's OK to discrimination against Christians but not any other religion?
So, your saying that before 1913 it was o.k. for the church to get in the face of Government. But sense Government can now put the church out of business, the Church now has to shut its yap? Government is always getting into values/morales issues.
Did Charlie Johnson send you over here from littlegreenfootballs, or is it a slow night at the Huff n Puff?
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1913 was IRS creation. Church better be in the business, the business of saving souls, cost money, the bible backs this up. Yea when it comes to Pastors it is different strokes for different folks to get the message out. We still have the freedom to chose how we receive the message. I happen to like the Blunt messages Pastor Giles post here, makes me think.
What Christian media is Doug talking about? I noticed that he complimented Salem Broadcasting which is by far the largest Christian radio network and by far the most political. Apparently he likes how they have handled the story. As a public traded company they do not have the same restraints that most other Christian radio stations have because many are non-profit 501c3s. His snarky comments about the Dove awards and spiky haired singers and toothy evangelists suggests an churlish elitism. What Christian media outlets are you talking about Doug? Most Christian's that I know support these two young documentarians. It really is not controversial at all in the evangelical circles. As for calling Christian music and culture lame, that is a whole other subject.
Well, goodness, a lot of church organizations are tied up tight with Gamaliel Foundation. That's a nut that needs to be cracked b/c Gamaliel trained all the ACORN people. It is so deep with so many organizations-Gamaliel has tons of churches working and organized for the Obama agenda-and they have been to the WH and meet with Celia Munoz. seems Valarie Jarrett is a speaker at every Gamaliel conference. yet no one has looked at Gamaliel.
Really Gamaliel Foundation should be studied closer.
I have even found some federal funds that have been sifted through TEN-a Gamaliel offshoot.
Some Christians, including some ministers, observe the separation of church and state as a matter of principle, not from fear. I admire that in a person. When I was a Christian, I held that view, that prayer in school was wrong, and that religion didn't belong in any government setting.
Others, of course, want to have a representative of the government (the teacher) lead my child in a classroom prayer. Now, there's a real conservative for ya, huh?. Clearly, it's not their child they're forcing to pray. They can have all the prayer they want with their children, during non-school hours. Oh, no, it's my child they're after, since they have no influence on him during non-school hours.
I'm not sure why you reference the year 1913. The law against political speech in churches was passed in 1954, with the backing of then-Sinister Lyin' B. Johnson. There is currently an effort afoot to repeal that ban. The law pretty much gave the IRS authority to punish political speech by churches. The punishment? You guessed it: The penalty for political speech is loss of the church's tax-exempt status.
I like that you said, "…Government can now put the church out of business…" It's nice of you to recognize that church is a business. Superstition plus cash = religion.
I wish churches would voluntarily give up tax-exempt status and politck like crazy. By the way, I've never heard of a black church losing its tax-exempt status, regardless of the political nature it takes on in an election year (hell, sometimes 24/7/365, election year or not.
Can you look at Doug Giles's picture and see him the way he sees himself? Cool pastors make me hurl chunks, lol.
There's a Christian media???
I have been yakking about the Gamaliel Foundation for months. It falls on deaf ears. It is a communist front. Obama was spawned from those involved in it. Further, it is a terrorist organization.
You can get an "Amen" and a "Hallelujah".
The "Christian media" being media has no obligation to ignore politics, let alone current events.
I'm a Catholic, and I know of other Catholics who go all wall-eyed at the thought of anything controversial, even if it's something that is coming to grab them by the short hairs from cradle to grave, like ObambiCare.
I know Mormons who live within their well-padded church-cocoon and have no idea what's happening to the country except that wow, Mrs Obambi is really a fashion plate!
I respectfully disagree. I think many people USED to feel this way. But many are waking up and finding their voices. I, for one, have decided to take a page from the Liberal playbook and become vocal. In-your-face kinda vocal. When someone says something offensive against Christians or convservatives, or attacking sound and just principles, I am standing up and saying, 'Why are you such a hater? That is offensive. You offended me and I demand an apology!" No more playing nice or turning away without a word, taking what we assume is the high road, which has been in reality the craven path of pacification and abdication of our God-given mandate to be salt and light to the world. Our country is in the mess it is because Christians have been spineless and have ceded the Civic Realm without hardly a whimper, much less a fight. We are not to place our trust in civil leaders…but we are not to abandon our culture to wickedness either.
Call me racist, call me hater, call me anything you want…I will no longer shut up and let the depraved mindset of Liberalism demonize the values and principles that founded this nation without standing up and saying
"No…you shut up and go study your history. Then come talk to me like an adult." Our country was founded upon strong Judeo-Christian faith and ethics. Remove that and the country collapses….and we see that collapse well underway now.
I think more and more, people are discovering their backbones and are no longer cowered into craven silence as the vile elements at work within this nation defile everything they touch. If retaining the good opinion of such people is that important to the average citizen, then we deserve everything we get…and worse. If the few public voices who are beginning to speak out are silenced, it is because we the people did not rise up in support of the truth.
WoW!
I wish everyone could read what you just wrote, and take that position. I do not know who said this:
"It is time for all good men (and women) to stand up and be counted!" But it is time. I have a feeling, that this revolution will be driven by women. Therefore it is up to you, and all good Christian women on this country to stand up, and be counted. Further, it is time to get the men motivated and off the couch. There is no better time to turn of the TV, forget about the NFL and get active.
WE have given ground for over a generation. It is time to say "NO More". Not one more inch. It is time to take our country back.
Doug – Bryan Fischer here. I host a daily two-hour talk show, "Focal Point", which airs on the American Family Radio Talk network and on Sky Angel through the AFA Channel. (AFR Talk is a division of Don Wildmon's American Family Association.) I was on this story from day one like white on rice on my program – we aired sound bites from the very first video that James and Hannah released, and continued to do updates as the story unfolded. Count us in as members of the Ichthus media who were unafraid to take this one head on.
Our original founders set up the Church & State issue, acdg to the Old Testament pattern of Moses & Aaron, his brother. They both had the same God, who freed them from Egypt, and did many miracles for them.
Moses was in charge of the Civil Govt and Aaron was in charge of the religous institutions. All tithes (taxes) received were shared, and which was used for the benefit of their new nation. The money system was not based on gold or silver as the gentile systems used. The pattern of their nation, which had its ups & downs, was that the religious institutions would fail or be comprised 1st, then the Civil Govt would fail They'd do thru a punishment phase and get restored.
New Testament Christians are "grafted into" OT Israel as a wild brach….We are not to be hooked up with European, Socialist-religious, Democracy!
Realize that Pres Thomas Jefferson ordered the printing of 1,000s of Bibles to be distributed to the citizens. And, the manufacture of many printing presses and workers to do the job. Congress approved it.
All Founding Documents were made to insure The Magna Carta Document and statement, and promotion.
Hey AmericanPride! What He** are you talking about?
Do Black Rev. hesitate to beat up Republicans.
Duke the troll…get lost, leftie.
Please read this column exposing The Gamaliel Foundation, on Canadafreepress…seriously!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1487...
I am glad to see someone else here reads the Canada Free Press. They are excellent, and always on point!
I agree that Giles' complaints has made Christians actually look up news sources with a biblical worldview.
I think I know you GemStateMom! Are you involved in the Pullman/Moscow 9/12er's? You nailed this on the head! I have felt this way for a very long time. Unfortunately I do not see the Church as a collective (sorry for the socialist term) banding together and making issues of what is going on. It is a movement that is happening with Christians outside their churches and I am not sure this is a good thing. We have been so programmed to be apologetic while in the Church for fear of reprimand from the Thought Police, or offending 'the perpetually offended brother.'
We have so lost our zeal to be who we are supposed to be; set apart from the world. We now interpret that to be in our nice little nests, safe and sound, worrying about the budget, or how to develop the next program to bring people into the body. I honestly wonder if we grew a spine and took a stand as a group, if that wouldn’t start a revival in this country. Just a guess, but can’t help but wonder if this isn’t exactly why we are about to experience extreme persecution in America as Christians. If we do not stop this onslaught of socialism, we are doomed to persecution and I agree with you GemStateMom, we deserve it!
Many Christian media sources play it "safe" so as not to rock the boat. Don't worry my bro's, Jesus said "We're getting across the waves".
Well done Hannah and Adam.
fight well Doug..I know you do
I totally agree and I will add this: Christian media (and most pastors) will stay away from any political controversy because they have been so well-schooled by the IRS. They are afraid to offend viewers with any overt "political" commentary. I have felt the same frustration among fellow believers, though my pastor has made a few brave comments which tell me he knows exactly what's happening in our country. This is quite contrary to what our pastors during the American revolution did and that was speak out! Religion played a major part in our revolution motivating and spurring on our founders. I am an evangelical Christian and I am frustrated at some of my christian brothers and sisters who refuse to recognize what is happening; to them it is just politics and should be consigned to a box labeled 'too controversial'. All is well with them.."When evening comes, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,' and in the morning, 'Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast. 'You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times'. Mt. 16:2. What is happening is not politics any longer. It is about freedom and tyranny as government takes over major portions of our economy with threats and intimidation and we have to have the courage of a 'Jonathan Mayhew' or 'Abraham Keteltas' and speak out against government tyranny whether you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent, we have to speak out and stop what is happening and christian media should be taking the lead.
A lot of the so-called Christian Right is operationally leftist except on one or two issues:
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/014473.html
I expect a lot of them to soon have an epiphany on gay marriage as well.
1957 — First year "In God We Trust" appeared on US currency
1954 — Year "under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance
Wonder how we made it through all those years prior?
Yep..that would be me.
I truly believe that the future of this country rests upon the shoulders of Christians and upon the grace and mercy of God. I am reminded of the concluding verse to a friend's original song about the destruction of two famous cities in Abraham's.
"Don't you know what a difference being a Christian makes.
Many who should be dead are living for our sakes. [alluding to Abraham's plea for mercy if 10 good men could be found]
And God has given us the words by which they must be saved —
before they reach their Judgement Day."
Jamie Soles "Judgement Day" 1996 http://solmusic.ca/samples/ga-judgement-day-sampl...
Full lyrics here: http://solmusic.ca/discography/good-advice.php [this was his first kids' album]
So, the burning question of the moment is: Will YOU be one of the righteous that stands in the breach and pleads for God's mercy? Will you stand steadfast for the truth?
No, it's not the popular thing to do.
Yes, you may become a target of the unrighteous as they seek to silence you.
But Whom do you serve? And in Whom do you trust?
If your trust is in God, then walk in obedience regardless of the cost.
MT 10:16 – "Behold, I am sending you like sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and simple as doves."
The "simple as doves" part often feels more Christian than the "shrewd as serpents." But we need to do the whole thing. Thank God Hannah and James get it – and live this Truth.
If nothing else, this article has motivated some to investigate whether or not there are any Christian news outlets and that's probably a good thing.
There are Christian magazines and Christian radio and Christian web sites. CBN, for example, showed 57 articles and various other reportage when I searched "acorn" on their site—the first result of a Yahoo! search for "christian news network."
Just remember
Matthew 7:1-5
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
That's why I believe they haven't commented on the story. But, that's just my opinion.
One thing I have continuely said as I awoke to what was happening to this nation, I will die to preserve my rights as an American afforded to us by our Forefathers, who were men of faith. Men of many different faiths and yet able to come to the concensus of a Republic, so man can live freely constrained by the morals of the Judeo-Christian ethic. Not constrained by government! Back to refounding this nation on its Constitution! I just wish the Church as a whole was not slumbering on this!
I hear that liberalism is a mental disorder…hmmmm, sounds pretty true to me.
Confabulations II, Verses 9-10: "And he toiled not in the vineyards, nor labored he in the fields. And though he knew not his ass from a HOLE IN THE EARTH, yea, verily, though he couldst not find his own ass with both hands, praise Whatever, he prospered might-eh-lehhhhhhh, for he could talk that shite-tuhhhh. Amen."
I think we should just forget talking TO one another. We could just talk AT one another, slinging Bible verses back and forth. (See above comments from @ashleyshute, hannajo and plenty of others)
@Doug
I sympathize with your frustration over how too many Christians fear men's feeble opinions instead of God's. Nevertheless, there ARE Christian media outlets that have been covering the anti-ACORN sting operation. These include:
*Local DC Christian talk shows like the Don Kroah show.
*The National Organization of Marriage, which beat Big Government on the scoop of ACORN's ties to RINO candidate Dede Scazzofava of New York:
http://nomblog.com/?p=464
*WORLD Magazine have explored the political fallout over ACORN's criminal activities being exposed. Here is the latest:
http://www.worldmag.com/articles/15997
Incidentally, one WORLD columnist used the anti-ACORN sting as proof that Christians can use New Media to change journalism for the better:
http://www.worldmag.com/articles/15956
So, there are Christian news outlets that are actively covering politics and encouraging believers to get involved. Hence, we need to support these outlets and tell others about them instead of falling for the lie that ALL Christians are retreating from the public square.
The author mentions that Hannah Giles and James O'Keefe are Christians.
That's the narrow worldview coming out, the worldview that will get us all enslaved.
Most thinking individuals don't give a damn about the religious or non-religious views of these two wonderful individuals who did the undercover work at ACORN offices. It is irrelevant, totally irrelevant. Their Christian faith, assuming you're even correct about that, was unnecessary to their efforts. Anyone–atheist, Muslim, Jew or Christian could've done the same thing. What it DID take was courage and intelligence, neither of which are proprietary to the Christian faith.
I don't know what Christian media you're referring to, but the ones I check daily were all over this story…Moody Broadcasting Network (affiliates all over the US), WORLD magazine, Christianity Today, Pat Robertson's 700 Club, American Family Radio, and SRN News gave this story plenty of air time and loads of printed space. I don't watch that ridiculous TBN with their dollar-a-holler "preachers", so I can't comment on them.
Timely post Mr. Giles.
It makes me wonder if many Christians realize what it is the progressives have in store for them. It makes me wonder because the progs haven't exactly shied away from openly stating what is in store for believers…That is Christian believers. At the very least we are to be zoo specimens; Artifacts of what once was. At worst? Annihilation. Nevertheless, those who insist upon clinging to Christ are planks in the eyes of Statist ambition.
In the face of this onslaught, far too many church leaders have apparently decided to sit down and shut up in the mud of their culture war trenches; only sticking their heads up to fire a few potshots at the advancing horde whilst they organize a retreat to the next perceived strong-point. Many of them have even allowed the self-described enemies of Christ to infiltrate deep within their spiritual lines to cause havoc within their congregations. Why is this so?
Out of necessity Christian organizations have created a somewhat independent communication network but we need more of the strategic innovation of decoupling our communication system from the physical vulnerability of church affiliation, we need the tactical mobility of individuals, but most of all we as individuals need to stand up and take the fight to the enemy's earth-works instead of engaging in rearguard actions directed by those who have been made to fear material loss or the cultural ostracism of the spiritually deranged.
Is it fear that stays the hearts and minds of many Christians as to cause so many of us to retreat from our God given rights to defend ourselves and our families? What have we to fear? Lame-stream derision? Atheist scorn? Late-night court fools? …Or is it not the visible hand of IRS enforcers smashing churches that don't carry water for the Collectivists? We know this is the case as only churches that espouse a Conservative Christian viewpoint are under threat whilst churches that preach racial division and leftist hate are "guilty as sin, free as a bird" [Ayers].
Thankfully in America it hasn't yet come down to fearing for our very lives as many Christians across the world must, but what of the future? That is the fear that must be confronted whilst we have the means to confront it, and them. We have the means; In fact we have millions of means, we millions just need take action in the spirit as well as in the body politic or we are lost.
From outside the confines of a church, those two young people with Andrew Breitbart have done more damage to the forces arrayed against us than has been done in many a year by any of us.
You should be as a proud father as you are a principled friend of truth.
Have you noticed how many cars have little "fish" decals and Obama stickers? For the life of me I can't understand how the two are compatible. I would love to stop and ask these people what they are thinking and why. Throw in the pro-life magnet with others and I just want to give up. If we can't depend on our Christian brothers and sisters to defend the unborn, freedom and our God-given liberty from tyranny, who can we depend on?
I'm depressed…. I just found out this weekend that my church is affiliated with ACORN….. no wonder there is no outcry from the church. The church is ACORN!!!!!!!!!!!
My thoughts exactly. I doubt any "christian media" is as monolithic as the mainstream press, but just who is he lampooning here?
LOL — Sorry to hear that, Scruffy. Better luck next church.
(But according to other posters here, the churches in general are talking ACORN down. I remember the United Methodist sect was pretty big on liberal causes about ten or so years ago. I decided a long time ago that churchin' up wasn't working for me, so I up and quit, I sure did.)
Um. Doesn't anyone see the irony here? If you were a really Christian, you'd see that going after an organization that helps poor and working-class people is pretty much the most un-Christian thing you can do. (Yes, that's what ACORN does!) Where is the compassion, love and humility that Christ taught? Put away the hate people and do some soul searching. Why not learn about what it's like to be poor and a minority in America? It's tough, and we need people and organizations like ACORN to help those in need.
Here's an example of the "horrible" work that ACORN does:
"In Baltimore, ACORN, among a coalition of labor, faith and community groups, recently passed an important piece of legislation, creating inclusionary housing for rental and coop developments with 30 or more units that have either received tax breaks or discounted land from the city.
The bill stipulates that subsidized developers be required to set aside 20 percent of their buildings’ units for low and moderate-income residents. "
I am commenting late on this one. When these videos were going to be broadcast on FNC, I updated my Facebook account on that day or the day before. As a follower of Christ, I do not ignore what happens in Washington or elsewhere. Heck, I watch FNC most days and have it in my car on Sirius! I am somewhat surprised that the Christian media did not do their job. When I think of Christian media, I think of 700 Club and Baptist Press. Praise God (and I mean it) for Fox News and guys like Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and others who expose the corrupt.
I know ACORN is bad news. I knew Obama being our President was bad news. Furthermore, my good Christian friend told me a few things. One, her congregation is mainly black. They voted for Obama because of his skin color. She couldn't because for one, his pro-abortion record. For a Christian to vote for someone who is highly rated by the pro-abortion side is disgusting. She may not have known about good old Jeremiah, Tony, Father Flaeger. I question if Barack (aka Barry) is a true Christian. As Levin would say something liked "there – I said it!"
The point is that the Christians ignore Dr. King's comments. They voted for one's skin color instead of the content of his character. NEWS FLASH – Obama has RADICAL associations. We know them – Jeremiah Wright, Tony Resko, and ACORN to name a few. If you pray, ask God for a new President to take the office in 2013. Obama is just starting the left wing radical socialist machine. If it does not stop, we will really lose. We can't afford to have freedoms taken away and possibly freedom of worship? If we don't stand up now, will we down the road? If we were a socialist nation, do you think all churches would have to be approved? Probably so. As I heard someone say – not a sermon, just a thought.
I am disgusted about them and many other issues. Illegals are one – the border is not sealed (Tom Marr on WCBM AM Bmore). We can't secure it, it must be sealed.
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