China’s Economic Miracle Is Over
by Chriss W. StreetChina funded the largest economic stimulus programs in world history from July of 2009 through June of 2010. As a percentage comparison to the U.S. stimulus plan; the Chinese spent twice the amount of money in half the time. China focused their stimulus on encouraging production, whereas America’s stimulus went to consumption. It now appears that the Chinese produced a huge portion of the consumer goods Americans bought with their stimulus dollars. Consequently, China’s unemployment rate fell to 4.2%, whereas the U.S. unemployment rate rose to 9.6%. Unfortunately for China, their stimulus success has also sown the seeds of their economic demise. A vicious combination of inflation and a strengthening currency is about to end the Chinese economic miracle.
China’s economy is only a third as large as the U.S. economy, but the total amount of goods and services traded are similar. China exports $2 trillion and imports $1.5 trillion; the U.S. exports $1.5 trillion and imports $2 trillion. But as shown below, in the Great Recession, China achieved high growth and employment; but the cost of success is high interest rates and raging inflation.
Int. Rate Growth Rate Jobless Rate Inflation Rate Food % GDP Food Inflation
China 5.56% 9.60% 4.20% 4.40% 34.0% 10.8%
US 0.25% 2.00% 9.60% 1.10% 12.4% 1.4%
To understand the Chinese “miracle” it is important to be aware of China’s history. President Nixon may have opened China to the outside world in 1970, but it was the collapse of the Soviet Union in the 1980s that forced China to abandon communism and flirt with capitalism. From 1981 to 1993 China devalued its currency six times, from 2.8 Yuan to 5.3 Yuan to the dollar. Facing economic crisis and famine in 1994, China embraced capitalism as “Socialism with Chinese Characteristics”. The exchange rate was devalued to 8.7 Yuan per dollar and tax rates were set at a 40% discount to the U.S. and Japan.
The combination of a 68% devaluation of the currency and dramatically lower tax rate fueled China’s economic boom.
Over the last fifteen years, China’s economy quadrupled; while the U.S. doubled and Japan had no growth. The graph below demonstrates China has not taken advantage of its success to develop competitive domestic manufacturing. The Chinese export “miracle,” as shown in yellow, is still due to U.S. and Asian manufacturers outsourcing their low-tech “processing” of component assemblies to benefit from China’s low effective wage rates. China continues to run a small deficit in “ordinary” finished goods manufacturing and a larger deficit in the “other” category of services.
Consequently, the success of the Chinese economy remains very susceptible to changes in China’s costs of production. Until recently, China could count on millions of impoverished peasants leaving the farms in the countryside each year to head to the cities for low tech jobs and a better life. This seemingly “endless pool of labor” kept worker wages low. But the stimulus program was so successful that the economy has now reached full employment. To get more workers, companies are forced to offer higher wages to convince workers to switch employers. The higher employment and rising wage rates have increased the demand for food, which is over one third of Chinese personal consumption. The higher demand for food has created rampant food inflation. With food prices up almost 11% this year, farmers who might have considered moving to the cities are staying on the farms and getting rich. Workers in the cities are being squeezed by consumer prices that are rising faster than wages.
China’s labor force is 800 million versus the U.S. labor force of 154 million workers. Currently China’s unemployment rate is 4.2%, or 33.6 million versus the U.S. unemployment rate of 9.6%, or 14.8 million workers. Chinese exports amount to a massive 45% of their economy versus 11% for the U.S. economy.
China could put an end to this domestic demand-pull and cost-push inflation by allowing its currency to float up in value; but any increase in currency exchange rate would directly increase the cost competitiveness of Chinese labor. Since over two thirds of Chinese exports are process manufacturing for corporations in other countries, changes in the exchange rates with China would have a direct proportional relationship to the willingness of corporations to out-source their low tech processing work to China.
Several recent academic studies have determined that, every 10% appreciation of China’s currency, would result in a 17% reduction in China’s processed exports. Estimates of how much the Chinese currency would rise in value if the Chinese government allowed it to float, range from 10% to 40%. Therefore, a free floating currency could increase China’s unemployment by 40 to 160 million!
China’s economic miracle allowed the country to become the second largest economy and the largest exporter in the history of the world. This miracle continues to be grounded on the third world economic model of providing foreigners impoverished peasant labor at the lowest effective cost. High unemployment in the rest of the world is driving labor costs down, whereas full employment and high demand are driving China’s labor costs up. Rapidly growing inflation will soon force the Chinese to allow their currency to appreciate. China is not prepared to handle hard economic times. The government has kept its tax rates very low by not providing social services. As inflation and unemployment rise, China’s economic miracle will be over.







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So someone figured out that there were 900 million Chinese living in tyrannical poverty? Meanwhile, powering the country with the slave labor of the rest? Who knew.
Sounds like a Soros kind of world.
Economic growth and prosperity during tough economic times…… who would have thought it would be the Chinese with this circumstance-?
I guess we have to wait two more years until obamao leaves office to see a recovery. Batten down the hatches…. it's going to be a rough ride with more economic turmoil just ahead of us.
I think that we should send ALL the liberals to China! They would fit in so good! That IS what they want…right?
There are more toxins in Chinese products than any other. Boycott.
And they can take all of our …made in china junk with them.
Communistic slavery and inhumanity to their own people, internet spying, and a vendetta against U.S. What's not to like about China?
Looks like war to distract/feed the peps. With their mediocre / poor navy and air force, I guess Siberia looks good? Down the mountains into SE Asia and India? Limited showdown with US and Japan over Taiwan etc?
Stay tuned…
Once again proving the laws of economics are as absolute & unforgiving as the laws of physics.
Does China have the ability to produce (the full supply chain) products? If the nationalize all foreign corps and ignore patents, can they reverse this?
My question is that if this is all being engineered behind our backs really, what is in store for America when the Chinese housing bubble collapses?
Will anything happen to us? or will the world be linked in the end dirt poor from this artificial numbers game?!
"it now appears"??? Tell me, you didn't consider the fact that all those manufacturing and other jobs sent to China from the US meant that the GDP those jobs contributed to in the US would be lost after they were outsourced? Or perhaps you thought the manufacturing job fairy would just create more? Oh come on!!! When you buy into the globalist's fraud, that a country can survive being husked out, by allowing it's jobs to move overseas, that it doesn't break the back of the economy, that it doesn't threaten it's independence, you're not only naive, you're dangerous.
While I agree that the wealthy contribute a great deal to the economy, so did the large and thriving middle class we used to have. The working to middle class was the backbone of the US economy, and they've been sold out. We need to demand that there be an effort for jobs to return, and that it's not in any way against the free market, to impose high tariffs on imports from countries that have and continue to target our jobs. Those same countries manipulate their currencies, those like Mexico, help keep their tax rates low, by sending their poor to our country to be a tax burden, which forces our taxes to increase making us less competitive.
We have to have the guts to demand, that if democrats believe taxes are the solution to everything, that instead of giving foreign aid, we need to tell Mexico, China (and yes, they demand and receive billions in foreign aid from the US taxpayer, ridiculous, isn't it?) India, and so on, that they are being cut off, and they need to raise taxes on their middle classes, wealthy and industries. We have no obligation to punish our own people to make it increasingly profitable for US companies to manufacture overseas. To refuse to hear sense on this is indicative of a mindset that isn't so much in aid of saving our country, but of keeping us less competitive, and hastening our path to collapse.
No worry. No big deal. Just bring Obamanomics and Obamacare to China! Everything be okay.
Chriss, nice article. To your point, there is really no miracle there. All the hype has been China reminding me of the early 1980's when the japanese were going to make us all poor and take our jobs. The biggest thing that we need to ALWAYS remember is that our (mostly) free market system finds ways to compete at all levels with whomever as long as conditions are met:
1. Our markets are mostly free; free from distortions primarily caused by poor trade agreements and government subsidies / regulation… it is safe to say that mostly this problem is the federal government
2. Individuals and enterprises have a high degree of economic liberty allowing them to earn and invest or spend wherever they desire… oops, looks like it's primarily the feds again here causing problems with tax codes and more regulations about what you can do with your earnings.
As long as we restore some semblance of these soon, we will be fine. If not, Mom and Dad, hope junior in enjoying that iPod. The printed money you bought it with was his birthright to freedom and you helped sell him down the river along with our commie comrades in d.c.
Once again, the "world powers", the Soros/Rockefeller/etc. elite, those who think they can bring about a New World Order and control everything, prove themselves to once again be just as effective as every other control freak usually is, as in, OOOPS. Somehow, people still believe there is a difference between Macro Economics (the study of world economy and the interrelationships thereof) and Micro Economics (the study of internal economics, such as the American economy in general, or the black market economy, looking internally). There isn't. And trying to define an economy into one or the other is an excercise in futility, a display of nothing more than the decider's current biases. Anytime your economy is dependent upon an outside force, it is in trouble. You must be able to draw the circles around your economies, protect them by not relying too much on one or the other, either imports/exports or internal consumption, either manufacturing or consumption or service or research/development/intellectual improvements. And we must keep our hands off of it as much as possible. It is a wild horse, it must go where it goes, and any attempts to steer it will ultimately cause more damage than good.
Excellent idea!!!
No incentive for people to save. You might as well spend your dollars before they are worth toilet paper.
Hedge with gold and silver? Come on only kooks believe in gold right?
And if you run out of money, don't worry they will extend unemployment "insurance" soon, and you always have food stamps. If you can't pay your mortgage, don't worry, just tell the bank show me the note motherfucker.
And we all know that spending will stimulate the economy right back into shape, even Bush told everyone to go out and spend, not just Krugman or Obama.
You mean helicopter Ben Bernanke can't reverse the titantic?
Ah, war, the health of the state. China has done a good job keeping their army at home.
Wishful thinking! Geeez:
China focused their stimulus on encouraging production, whereas America’s stimulus went to consumption.
That is the difference between night and day. The two are not comparable. Think of it this way, "our" stimulus ALSO went to China.
Free Trade is poison that trans-nationalists and globalists try to fool nations to take – raise tariffs now! Make everything here. Hire Americans. Kick out the H1B invaders (many of them committing espionage as well.)
It is funny how really China's boon is little different than America's post WWII – based on the same thing – PRODUCTION. Only they aren't going to be stupid and give it all away like we did listening to a bunch of CFR SCUM calling themselves "economists."
Whoever the current puppet in chief is has little bearing on the economy, only perception.
Just as the Soviet Union was touted in the press and movies as a perfect society with happiness everywhere and plenty for all [ circa 1930's and '40's] and Americans were told their society was so passe, so it has been with China in the last few years. It has been proclaimed the best economy in the world and soon to overtake and shame America. And many people bought it. Well, it ain't so. Nor can it ever be. I don't see how we can repair the damage Obama has done – and I don't give a damn about his reasons, anymore – something about proof and pudding – but God knows we must try. I hate him.
AMEN on that one…
Oh, I forgot to add, if you can't pay that credit card off, just declare bankruptcy.
Well said!
In case you didn't get the memo…perception IS the backbone of our economy AND our currency. So you see, you just called yourself a liar. Thank you for that rare bit of honesty. It was refreshing.
Also, I didn't notice you singing that song when GWB was President…you two-faced Socialist shill.
Let me see here. Company A has 500 employees. Company A can not afford to operate in the US. Company A decides to move operations to Country B. Company A takes a few employees to Country B and lays the rest off adding to higher US unemployment. Company A continues to manufacture goods with lower labor costs and produces products that are now cheaper in the global market. China, Vietnam, Mexico, Taiwan, etc. benefit from the companies revenues and employees paying taxes. Sure China made some errors in moving too quickly and underestimating labor resources and costs but it has been nothing to our ignorance in driving Company A to Country B.
I beg to differ. They wouldn't fit in at all. They are lazy, spoiled brats addicted to entitlements. They would all be shot in the head within a week. It's still a good plan though!
China's slow down will only be temporary. They purchased a HUGE number of the WORLD'S natural resources and are set to be a manufacturing giant.
Are you aware that any company that has a business in CHina has to surrender it's proprietary business secrets? For example, Catepillar had to give it all of it's specs for all of the equipment it manufactures. Now, Chinese companies are building the same thing but at a fraction of the cost, and will put Catepillar out of business.
Get rid of all our Chinese crap?!? There wouldn't be anything left! What would we wear? What would we feed our babies and our pets? How would we entertain ourselves? Although, it would probably make the enviro-Nazis very happy!
Are you saying that the Chinese are "inscrutable"? LOL!
I second that! Please send him along. We really don't need him. I would even be willing to pay a small tax for them to take him.
And I suppose you think that's going to continue. So sad.
We should get rid of the artificial floor called "Minimum wage" and let the economy right itself on a firm, real foundation. Not one arbitrarily imposed by government. With no minimum wage requirement, people could hire for jobs that pay according to the task, rather than some artificially imposed requirement. With people making $9.25 an hour to pour coffee in a calfornia starbucks, is it any wonder why no one is getting hired in that state?
Let the market dictate wages, and let wages dictate living standards. The fastest way to fix this economy is to reduce the mountains of red tape that restrict the exchange of goods and services.
Unless we only buy American…But wait, we can not afford to produce goods here. Why? Labor costs are too high. Why? Unions have told people that they should be able to make millions sweeping floors.
A commenter from China writes:
I leave in Shenzhen for last one year … (I'm Expatriate In China)
I checked with Chinese people, those i know very close, and asked about the political system they live in . They said they are HAPPY.
Check the history, the poverty in China is drastically reduced in last few decades , and its infrastructure is developing so fast.
The people are so nice here in China , and I honor their honesty and determination. I saw freedom for people in their religion(for minority who follows), far better than some other countries.
Why the other developed countries are worried about China's political system, even if they are growing very fast in terms of economy(2nd largest at present) and basic infrastructure, and also as long as majority people are happy here.
Learn from them, don't give ears to media and rumors, search for the facts. This Century belongs to China … Love you !!!.
It's time we re educate people, and send the union thugs to china.
A commenter from China writes:
I leave in Shenzhen for last one year … (I'm Expatriate In China)
I checked with Chinese people, those i know very close, and asked about the political system they live in . They said they are HAPPY.
Check the history, the poverty in China is drastically reduced in last few decades , and its infrastructure is developing so fast.
The people are so nice here in China , and I honor their honesty and determination. I saw freedom for people in their religion(for minority who follows), far better than some other countries.
Why the other developed countries are worried about China's political system, even if they are growing very fast in terms of economy(2nd largest at present) and basic infrastructure, and also as long as majority people are happy here.
Learn from them, don't give ears to media and rumors, search for the facts. This Century belongs to China … Love you !!!.
Don't underestimate their ability to manipulate.
What will truly change things in that country will be a peasant revolt.
High times have turned too many of their leaderships' eyes away from the unsettled hinterlands.
I'm guessing that will come back to haunt them, but first their current model has to falter.
Let's hope it does sooner than later.
We either think American, and buy American, or we become something else. As a country we are fast becoming a nation that can’t build or manufacture anything, not good.
Morning idiot,
So despite you being humiliated from the get go yesterday, you still come back show your ignorance with spam. You really need to find a new job, you have no clue what you are doing or what you are talking about.
Who is paying you to spam?
How much are you getting paid to spam?
Do you really believe in what you spam or is it for the money?
Are you going to come up with something new or are just going to continue to knock off points and babble incoherently and blame the Jews for everything?
Remember when you admitted you played with dolls?
Perfect Looking4Sanity! If the product says "Made in China" don't buy it!
FOAD.
OK, I'll buy that unemployment # in China provided it is understood that only urbanized portions of china are figured. A great many in China aren't even participating in the economy at all. Think about how many people live in China, a large country with tremendous amounts of undeveloped area, think about how many live hand to mouth out in the sticks.
I look for massive civil unrest in China in the coming decade and it is already starting in terms of garbage and pollution. Industrialization includes tough growing pains for all countries who go through that era. This will see China's government slam down the fist of control absent restraint created here by our Constitution and what will result will be akin to a snowball going down hill. The more control China's government attempts to exert, the more the people will push back. Here is why;
When people gain wealth of their own, they demand more and more freedom in how to spend it. Ironically, the plan China put in place to become the world's sole economic superpower will be exactly what blows its Communism out of the water for good.
Economics may be vastly slower than military action, but in a civilized society, it is far more effective at bringing lasting change.
The gravy train built on a large population and on the backs of American success and enjoyed by China's Communist element is coming to an end and freedom will expand exponentially or it will be crushed. If freedom is curtailed, the backlash will be enormous and the economic woes will explode. Things are definitely going to get tough here in the USA, but they are soon going to be downright brutal in China. More than one will stare down a tank in the coming years and of this I have no doubt.
The word economic sparring is about over. The bell is about to ring -starting the actual fight. And only freedom, Liberty itself can win this championship bout.
It is easy to be happy with scraps when all you had before was dirt. Get a clue sphincter muscle. If you like China go there and live awhile. They will be sure that you see only the best of circumstances I assure you.
P2O – You better add qualifications to that like taxation, environmental and other regulatory compliance costs. Saying "labor" isn't enough because simpletons think you are only talking about employees paychecks.
China is evil… communism is evil… let it fail, let it fall.
What incredible idiocy. The author says "inflation and a strengthening currency " are going to be China's downfall. Those two are opposites. Inflation is the opposite of a strengthening currency. It's not like their a tag-team in a wrestling match–they are polar opposites.
The author makes such a ludicrous statement because he has not properly defined inflation. Inflation is NOT rising prices. Rising prices are the EFFECT of inflation (an increase in the money relative to goods and services). In fact, everything the author describes as "inflation" is in reality a move up/down the demand curve.
Second, the author argues that as wages increase, labor costs rise, and short of devaluing (inflating?) its currency, Chinese goods become too expensive to be competitive in foreign markets. This, at least, is true. However, the author assumes that Chinese domestic markets will not absorb the surplus of consumption.
I'll use his own words. " To get more workers, companies are forced to offer higher wages to convince workers to switch employers. The higher employment and rising wage rates have increased the demand for food, which is over one third of Chinese personal consumption." Wait–higher wages and low un-employment led to more food consumption? But, still-higher wages won't mean that the Chinese start buying some of those flat screen tv's themselves?
I invite anyone who's interested to read Peter Schiff's "Crash Proof: How to Survive the Coming Economic Collapse," written about this and a range of other issues we now face–in2007. He addresses the U.S. Chinese relationship far more adroitly than the author of this article.
I was baiting…
China's economy will fail the same reason every communist / mixed economy form of government ultimately fails. over time the number of jack boots required to stand on the throats of its citizens becomes unsustainable. Hence Castro's recent revelation on the failed Cuban model.
The US will ultimately reach this end as well by becoming mired in endless bureaucracy and government coercion as its sheeple look forward to the latest results of DWTS and the like.
In the words of Lincoln.
“It is not too late; keep faith with us, keep faith with God, and do not, do not ever despair of the republic.”
A pox on them with their killing or selling baby girls for a generation. Now, they have 9 million men with no wives! How stupid and dangerous!
LOL … I have been to China too. I particularly think the government goons with guns on every street corner is a nice touch. They still run over people with tanks?
Haha, the century belongs to China — I can hardly stop.
The air you need a knife to cut, that's cool. How did you do that?
Selective reading is great, isn't it?
Keep your blinders on, horsey!!
One of my business magazines had an article about a Chinese businessman moving his business from China to Vietnam. He couldn't afford to pay the $400 a month wages to his Chinese workers. He pays his Vietnamese workers $100 a month. That's about $5 a day. Less than a buck an hour.
Liberals like Obama-commie have always liked to sing the praise of the tyrants, hoping they one day can become one.
They forget the 100s of millions that died pursuing the perfect man in the 20th century. Nudge, shove, shoot, it's how it always goes.
i thought name calling was for leftists?
When did I admit that of what you claim?
You cannot counter my argument, nor do you know the definition of anology.
….:) That would be the idea!
> It's not like their a tag-team in a wrestling match–they are polar opposites.
"Inflation" refers to the increase in currency needed to provide the same good.
"Strength of the currency" refers to how the currency trades in relation to foreign currencies.
Apples and oranges.
Because of inflation, it now takes more Yen to induce a worker to build an iPod. At a fixed ratio, more Yen = more dollars to buy that iPod.
More dollars? Well, maybe we should build them in Indonesia instead…
Since it now takes too many dollars to buy that iPod, China now considers the Yuan to be too "strong" against the dollar. So it devalues again to protect it's manufacturing.
Again "currency strength" refers to Yuan vs dollars. "inflation" refers to yesterday's Yuan vs today's.
You can't keep this up forever, though. Eventually the workers catch on to the fact that they are no better off – they are just trading an ever increasing number of paper notes for the same amount of stuff.
I don't think you've quite got the difference between Macro and Micro. The study of the US economy in general is still Macro. The study of an individual's satisfaction with a particular good or service is Micro. Therefore, the markets are controlled by individual behaviour, as studied in Micro, which leads to the market forces studied in Macro.
at least before ours does.
Great article. This reads like a dinner conversation in my house, particularly this topic. There are some things that I might add however…
Food prices haven't really gone up 11%, they've gone up much more. I travel to China on a regular basis, and statistics like that, as I am aware, are put out by the Chinese state-run statistics bureau, which is always hopelessly optimistic. In reality, the cost of living, including food has literally doubled in the past year. Farmers are still leaving the farms, however, because they're not the ones reaping obscene profits. The income gap is widening at an historic pace.
What anyone studying the present state of the Chinese economy needs to understand is the housing market, and how that's linked to residency permits. Anyone in rural China would take any opportunity to get an urban Hukou (residency permit), and often the only way to do so is to buy a relatively newly built apartment in an urban area. Urban housing, as a result of that and other factors, is overvalued to the tune of nearly 500% — that is a huge slice of Chinese equities, and it is about to go down in flames. Let me phrase that so that everyone can understand: an urban apartment in a city in China cost more right now than New York or London.
There is really an endless list of serious flaws in the Chinese economy, but kudos for bringing a few to mainstream attention.
To address one thing you pointed out in particular:
"Chinese exports amount to a massive 45% of their economy versus 11% for the U.S. economy."
This, more than anything is the real challenge for China. The only export China really has going for them is cheap processing. The often spoken of R&D isn't really happening in China, and the higher education system is one of the least credible in the world. Chinese high-tech products are a direct result of intellectual property theft, and stupid, stupid agreements that multinationals have made in exchange for operating in China (they're regretting that now–but they should have seen it coming). When high-tech processing moves out of China into countries like Vietnam and Thailand (which is happening as I type), the pilfering that Chinese R&D has relied upon is going to dry up and lose any semblance of a competitive edge. Indeed the 'growth miracle' is over.
China, the current equivalent of 1980's Japan: an economy rapidly grown by, and ultimately stagnated by central planning.
I love the people who, and they're always out there, loved to say "this time, it's different". They're always wrong, and it never is.
We were booming and happy too, just a couple of years ago……..
Good on ya, I hate when so called conservatives act like progressives.
Why would you say this?
"Nudge, shove, shoot"
I'll have to remember that one!
That's what Thomas Friedman says, how it'd be great if we could be "China for a day" so the gov can pass all those necessary rules and regulations without pesky things like Congress, the people or the Constitution interfering with it.
My question is what happens to us when China needs more houses?
What part of Canuckistan are you from? BC? Welfare Maritimes? Marxist Quebec?
It is hard to take seriously your comments, given your lack of brains.
The biggest distortion introduced to the world economy was the abandoning of the gold standard in 1971.
Thank you, Tricky Dicky, you worthless moderate Republican cockroach who wanted to be loved by libs so much that he gave them everything they wanted (EPA, affirmative action, etc etc etc etc) but they were on the verge of impeaching him anyway.
com'on america lets do this!!!….if we all work together we can make china as broke as we are…DON'T SHOP AT WAL-MART!!! now I have no bone to pick with Wal-mart, I just don't shop there.
My Granpa told me when I was very young…"if you buy cheap you buy twice"…nuff said????
Looks like china needs some hope and change…
Academic BS. I wonder if the author has actually traveled there? I've been there 7 times since 1990. I bet their imports are mostly capital goods for production. And Chinese farmers don't consider themselves 'impoverished'. Perhaps they don't own an iPod yet. So what. You don't see beggars on the streets. Family ties and support is strong. You don't find single moms as are the majority of our lower classes.
China is not "Communist". It is a capitalist country run by the Communist Party. With ever expanding global markets they will always be able to sell their production.
I was surprised to see Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Porsche dealers in Hangshow last summer. They were'nt there 10 years ago. Corona beer, tequilla shots, and ladies night at Zapattas in Shanghai.
Don't sell them short……..they are clever. We are doomed……American standard of living will go down for the masses. We educated ones will be OK, though
The Chinese are optimistic that their enconomy will advance and they will take over the world. Chinese factories do not face the tax, regulatory, and litigation burden of USA companies. Soon they will be exporting automobiles. Chinese auto workers will be glad to have a job and will not be as surly or obstinate as UAW jerkoffs in Michigan. \
In the past Chinese business has been smart, hardworking, and humble. The new generation of Chinese businessmen know only affluence and success. They are no longer humble. They kind of remind me of the UAW jerkoffs who were drunk with power and destroyed the US auto industry. Success breeds arrogance. Economic change will keep on coming.
Amen! Can you just imagine a spoiled union liberal brat telling someone in China their union says they don't have to do that? I suspect the Chinese guy would say great, here's a bullet for your unproductive ass!
Maybe we should all start putting a collection together to send all liberals to China. How SWEET would that be!!!
Man, I hate liberals!
IMHO, China's clock is ticking. With their one-child policy, they only have about 15 years of real growth. I doubt that they will be able to establish themselves as major CONSUMERS in that short amount of time, as we have already done here. With their aging population and not enough younger workers to maintain growth, the multi-national corporations will move on to other more vibrant locations. By then it will probably be Indonesia, possibly Africa. India will probably be too advanced and too expensive to do mind-numbing factory work by 2025.
Perception versus production, savings, and investment, you are too funny Insanity, you sound like somebody on the Potomac selling that good old establishment Washington snake oil, hee haw
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Now get those panties out of a bunch and and no more temper tantrums.
I'm no genius, so I let history be my guide. I came of age when Japan was supposed to take over the world. But everyone over 40 remembers up until the late 70's when, if something was crap, the joke was turn it over and there'd be a MADE IN JAPAN sticker. Now they've since had a lost decade and are floundering.
Seems like America's story, only accelerated.
Now China is supposed to take over the world. If it happens, history tells me it won't be for long.
Just seems to me that if our unions and govt hadn't made it so damn hard to do business here, the jobs would still be here. It doesn't seem like rocket science, which always leads me to believe that someone wants it broken. In the immortal words of Hank Williams Jr., I'd like to spit some Beech -Nut in that dudes eye!
Long term you may be right, but the fact of the matter still is that China owns a SUBSTANTIAL amounts of the global natural resources. Our military is at risk because China owns 98% of ALL rare metals mines, and apparently our high tech military equipment nees those rare metals.
Now if we recycled our old cell phones, we could extract alot of those metals back out.
In all humility, we should strive to NOT hate our fellow man. That having been said…I sympathize with you completely. I'm not even sure these people ARE human. I am beginning to believe that they are demons manifested upon the corporeal realm. They never seem to die, they just won't go away and they never seem to tire of tormenting us. The Good News (Gospel) is that their time is almost over. Hallelujah!
What about sending them all to Siberia? They could go over there to the frozen tundra and try to warm that place up with all their hot air and talk of Global Warming!
From your lips to God's ears. This person will have his due measure, heaped to overflowing, in time.
Conservatives jump right from debate to shoot. No half measures! That's for moderates, liberals and Communists.
I would think you'd love it!
Excellent article. I enjoyed reading it and learning the information presented in there. K++
Production? That's one part of a balanced economy. America still produces, in terms of sheer volume we're still the world's number #1 manufacturing nation. We just manufacture things better, more efficiently than China or anywhere else. However, we also have a strong service sector. Things for the average American material-wise are better than they were in the fifties by far.
Up till now China's been going by the Japanese playbook from the 1960s-1980s, keeping their currency depreciated and dramatically increasing productive capacity, all the while strangling their domestic service sector with huge tariffs. Japan may have been booming export wise in the 80s, but basic goods for local Japanese were either of poor quality or prohibitively expensive. One American economist went to Japan and found a watermelon in one market costing the equivalent in yen of $80. The exact same thing has happened in China, just on a much grander and far more dangerous scale thanks to the sheer size of the country.
Any healthy economy needs a proper balance between manufacturing and service industries. Too great a swing in favor of either strangles the other. We're a bit over-reliant on the domestic service sector. China's way overcapacity on the production front, made worse by the Communist regime's inherent impulse to demand more and more heavy industry. In the end, their combination of economic imbalance, their demographic black hole and aging population, their massive debts, their nonexistent service sector, and international pressure to appreciate the renminbi—all of this makes China's future bleak.
We've got a strong nation with abundant natural resources, a powerful economy currently shackled by government policy and the American republics natural political stability. We've got all the essentials to get back on track economically. China's just plain fucked.
Maybe George Soros can bribe his way into China's banking system since he and his buddy, Barack Obama has destroyed the United States.
Spend, spend and spend even more. The Obama administration is a one term regime and George Soros knows it.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3001...
China has nothing to be proud of. If you look at the numbers killed by starvation, the current Chinese government is the one that killed the most people of any government of all time, almost 30 million of their own… plus many vietnamese and koreans and others.
Evil may be clever, but they can never do what the good do, which is to respect one another. That is the true secret of success which China will never appreciate.
Careful, China might be affected by your flippant attempts to curse them. Do you really want millions of Chinese dead? I want the government to suffer and fall, not the people.
Wow. If you took away the human rights issue, I'd MUCH rather be in China's position than the US'. I suspect that Mr. Street doesn't know what he's talking about.
Got that right.
Bar codes to determine who you are buying stuff from. These are the first numbers you see on the bar codes.
690-695 … then it is MADE IN CHINA .
00 – 09 … USA & CANADA
30 – 37 … FRANCE
40 – 44 … GERMANY
47 … Taiwan
49 … JAPAN
50 … UK
America still produces, in terms of sheer volume we're still the world's number #1 manufacturing nation.
Anything to back that up?
However, we also have a strong service sector.
Actively being outsourced and insourced.
There is no service "industry." That is what they labeled OVERHEAD to make it appear as if it is productive activity. It isn't.
"There is no service "industry." That is what they labeled OVERHEAD to make it appear as if it is productive activity. It isn't. "
When you provide a service for which there is a demand, you are being productive. What are you on?
Ugh. I'm generally interested in hearing about China's demise, but I had trouble finishing this article. This is the first time I've ever heard anyone claim that China began pursuing "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" in 1994.
In fact, here's a 1994 Foreign Affairs article that discusses what everyone (except for Chriss Street, apparently) knows– that Deng Xiaoping began these reforms in 1978. http://goo.gl/V9JE2 This is why China began its 30-year stretch of incredible growth in the 80's.
I'm glad Big Government lets any yahoo write whatever they want on topics they don't seem to know much about.
China nummer won!
China nummer won!
Yeah, you canucks all have woodies for Casto's Cuba too…
Must be something in the water, EH?
Residency permits?
but, but…isnt Communism supposed to eliminate classes?
Turn over Obamacare to the Chinese, that will drop them to their knees.
There is no way China can sustain its' populace.
They (the Chinese) have fallen into the Soros trap, they couldn't resist the cheap investment in our collapsing Obamanomic system amd now they have to pull themselves away from the the tentacles of the failed stimulus bait.
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