Medicare Is Already Rationing Care
by Dr. C.L. GrayRationing Medicare will not require clandestine meetings in smoke filled rooms. Simply reduce physician reimbursement to below the cost of delivering quality care, and free market forces will take care of the rest.

Medicare has already begun the process of backdoor rationing. Facing overwhelming budget shortfalls, Medicare needs to trim its books. Washington found a clever solution: eliminate the billing code for “physician consults.”
As a hospital physician, I often admit Medicare patients with chest pain or shortness of breath. If my patient needs urgent help from a cardiologist, I call a colleague for assistance.
Until December 31, 2009 the cardiologist could charge a “physician consult” fee for getting out of bed, coming to the hospital, and evaluating a patient with a potentially life threatening problem. Medicare paid $195.76 for this middle-of-the-night work (the same rate as when done during the day).
By eliminating the “physician consult” billing code, Medicare now advises the specialist to charge for a “hospital admission.” For two more months, Medicare will pay $175.67 for this service. However, without a change in current law, the physician’s reimbursement for a “hospital admission” will drop to $141.63 on March 1. This is why the “Doc Fix” is so important for working physicians and their Medicare patients.
Other recent and obscure changes in Medicare guidelines are potentially even worse.
As of January 1, Medicare will not pay the consultant at all unless the admitting physician uses an “HI modifier” when billing Medicare for the initial admission. This means in order to get paid, the consulting physician must rely on another physician’s billing practice. Many physicians remain unaware of this obscure change (Medicare guidelines were altered as recently as December 17). The result? Many consultants will be denied payment altogether—yet another way to “save” Medicare dollars.
Most physicians function as small business owners. Consider what becomes of this $141 per consultation (assuming they are lucky enough to receive that):
Interventional cardiologists pay approximately $50,000 a year for malpractice insurance. If they work 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year this means they pay $25 an hour for malpractice coverage. If they spend two hours in middle of the night coming in to see my patient, this effectively cuts their salary by $50. Earning $91 for middle of the night work simply does not cover the rent, utilities, and salaries for office staff that must be paid each month to keep the office doors open.
Why should seniors care?
Even before these cuts, Medicare already underpaid physicians by 15 to 25 percent compared to traditional insurance companies. No business can survive when expenses exceed revenue—no matter how well intentioned the physician.
When the pending $500 billion cut to Medicare (used pay for healthcare reform) is added to the cuts outlined above, physicians will be forced to limit their exposure to patients on Medicare. They will shift their work to younger, healthier patients who are less complex, require less time, and have traditional insurance. This kind of “reform,” even as millions of baby boomers enter the system, will only exacerbate the physician shortage for Medicare patients.
There are ways to “bend the curve” without sacrificing our seniors. But sadly, Washington chose another path. Politicians chose to reward political allies and pay off key Senators rather than protect American seniors.
Several common sense reforms would “bend the curve” without backdoor rationing. But Washington continues to ignore these ideas. These solutions include:
- End abusive medical litigation by passing patient-centered tort reform.
- Let businesses purchase insurance across state lines.
- Give younger, healthier Americans tax incentives to purchase low cost/high deductible plans and let them put pre-tax dollars into a healthcare savings accounts.
If Washington continues to protect political allies and buy Senate votes rather than pursue patient-centered reform, then let backdoor rationing begin. This is not overheated rhetoric. This is reality. Mayo Family Clinic in Glendale Arizona just announced it will stop accepting Medicare as of January 1.





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Any pre-paid system for anything will result in rationing. This includes private insurance. The root of the problem is this concept of using pre-paid services (whether this be private insurance or medicare) for things people need to pay out of pocket.
1. End abusive medical litigation by passing patient-centered tort reform.
2. Let businesses purchase insurance across state lines.
3. Give younger, healthier Americans tax incentives to purchase low cost/high deductible plans and let them
put pre-tax dollars into a healthcare savings accounts.
You forgot
4. Tort reform. (But we will never see this because most politicians are Lawyers…..
1.End abusive medical litigation by passing patient-centered tort reform.
2.Let businesses purchase insurance across state lines.
3.Give younger, healthier Americans tax incentives to purchase low cost/high deductible plans and let them put pre-tax dollars into a healthcare savings accounts. Dr. C.L. Gray
Hey Congress. This is the 'reform' we need and not the crap you're selling with Obamacare. Dr. Gray made it easy to understand. Do it this way and you just might not have to hide anymore.
Seems that this will only be yet another way the state tries to regulate population…
IF the govt stop paying out for illegitimate children ,welfare baby factories and illegal immigrate women crossing the boarder WITH THE INTENT on dropping a kid on AMERICAN soil to collect welfare. IN OTHER WORDS clean up the system. the elderly people that have PAID their dues deserve more from THIS CORRUT GOVERNMENT. its sooooo obvious that politician allow this to happen in order to get votes and acorn makes sure these welfare rates are registered…….well politician what are you going to do when the majority of the voters are on welfare and no one to pay your welfare checks
Throw the bums in jail. If you don't make them accountable; they will continue.
Our healthcare system start going downhill with the introduction of
Medicare and Medicaid. That's when costs start getting out of control.
I think Catastrophic Insurance would be good, and there are a lot of
things that could and should be paid for out of pocket. I;ve always
wondered why a Doctor's office visit couldn't be paid out of pocket. When
people think they are getting something for nothing, they abuse it.
Every time they "fix" something, they have to continually go back and
refix it over and over again. Tort Reform would be a good thing also
along with being able to purchase insurance across state lines. But
Lorben is right, we'll never see it.
One way is to assert, properly, that children of illegals are NOT legal despite the common misconception. Citizenship is only an option if they are here LEGALLY. It does NOT apply to illegals.
Don't you just love our government's priorities. Slash medicare payments WITHOUT addressing tort reform, cut missle defense while increasing funding for unions, community organizations etc.
This is not a surprise everyone knows it despite their denials. The problem was created by government parties and a government party is trying to fix it in a typical government fashion. Theft of freedom. How about we enforce the law and send illegals home so we can see what next to fix.
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Thanks,
B
Anyone catch 60 minutes last night about Veterans Care?
1 million behind in claims !!!
4 months to get claim filled and IF you reject your claim then you will have up to 4 YEARS to wait !!!!!
Is America really this stupid ? Are we ???
i did some google stuff on cailf. welfare, it would seem thats why they are BUSTED,and san fran.—"pudlosiville" is an open to illegals city. the city advertises same on city buses..no sh*t…to tune $1000,000 year. thats how pudlosi stays in office.
side benefit… 2000+ page Bill reduced to 3-4 pages.
To bad our GOP representatives can't get this message out. If one did not know better you would think the GOP Senators and Congressmen were in the bag for the takeover of 1/6th of the economy.
Y'all better adopt an exercise regimen. The impeding health care "reform" fiasco will have far more influence on getting people in shape than any diet pill or motivational program.
Great article!
Paul, you really made me laugh with your joke, "Dr. Gray made it easy to understand. Do it this way …" That'll be the day when congress actually wants us to understand something. Us common folk, we're too stupid and incompetent to understand such complicated stuff like supply & demand and income vs. liabilities. It's better to leave this important stuff to those who are much smarter than us – congress. And we definitely shouldn't trust an evil doctor who wants to make money. <sarcasm, for those who can't figure it out>
So their answer is to pay doctors less. As a cheapskate by nature, I have learned the hard way many times you get what you pay for.
The administration is not interested in listening to the perspectives of working doctors. All they care about is getting the endorsement of the AMA (of which less than 30% of doctors are members of) and AARP (which offers to sell Medigap to seniors when Medicaid is cut, thus lining their pockets). They don't want to hear about the realities of what this bill will actually do to patients. They aren't improving citizens health, their inserting government control. If a company has a history of bad business practices, would we want that company to take over a major portion of our healthcare industry? Well the government has screwed up Social Security and Medicare and now wants to take over completely the rest of the medical system. Does that make sense????
Not to nit-pick, but wasn't tort reform the first thing listed? "patient-centered tort reform"?
Atlas has Shrugged. Many doctors will simply quit. Idiot Democrat pols and their families go to Bethesda Naval or Walter Reed for free. Like the elite in Russia and other commie countries, there are "two systems".
Where are the True Lawyers !!!!!
The Constitution does not give Congress the power to require that Americans purchase health insurance. Congress must be able to point to at least one of its powers listed in the Constitution as the basis of any legislation it passes. None of those powers justifies the individual insurance mandate. Congress's powers to tax and spend do not apply because the mandate neither taxes nor spends. The only other option is Congress's power to regulate interstate commerce
It wasn't on his final list. I guess I was being nit-picky…I would have added it to his final summation. But that's just me.
Re: hannajo & kcboomer
Health Care without Doctors:
I am an excellent physician x 30 years, under the Medicare system.
FLASH: As of Jan 1st 2010, the Obama Administration has STOPPED paying physicians.
Congress has NOT BEEN ABLE to decide on a fee schedule since 2003. A cumulative fee cut of 21% was scheduled for 2010. This reduction was temporarily stopped 12/22/09 in a Defense Appropriations (?!) until March 2010. CMS (Center for Medicare Medicaid Services) has advised physicians NOT TO FILE Medicare claims, as claims won't be processed .
The Congress defense? They stopped the physician pay cut. Dems want a 10-year “freeze”. But the result is ZERO payments for now. The good news? The Docs will be paid later (in cheaper dollars). The bad news? The Docs have to borrow money to see patients, pay employees.
I suspect you will not hear this story anywhere else (no physician sympathy factor).
This shows the chronic mismanagement of Gov Health Care
An Ayn Rander,
M.D., FACS
I am on page 439 as I type. I can see many Dr. Reardon's in the very near future.
LOL We all get a little bit of a narrow focus now and then! I enjoy the postings you have made here and wish you a VERY good New Year!
May God bless you in the New Year too! God knows we need it…
To continue the previous email:
The current range is roughly $500 to $2500 dollars PER DAY. And, given the relative scarcity of cardiologists, many of them–particularly in relatively rural areas–can be on the on call roster 10 or more times every month. I suspect with these new Medicare rules, we will see demands for even higher on call payments, since it has been my experience that physicians look to the hospitals where they treat patients to make up any shortfall in the reimbursement they receive from government payors (Medicare and Medicaid (Medi-Cal in California.) So, while the reduction of Medicare reimbursement for physicians is a serious problem–particularly for primary care physicians–and likely to get far worse in the future, the picture for cardiologists and any number of other specialists and their patients is not as dire as the one painted by Dr. Gray.
Stu, where does the hospital get the money to pay the docs? Will the reduction in medicare payments affect the hospitals? If so, won't that reduction trickle down and affect doctors "incentives"? Just curious.
Mark Steyn filling in for Rush L says the Amish are good to go an no $750 fine, no purchase requirement and no jail charges. Amish have been known to visit hospitals and pay their bills.
fighting this maze myself….already 4 months and nothing but repeated we need more info for you claim…they had all the contact info when the DAV filed it 4 months….anybody seen the VA commercials lately?? we need tv commercials touting how great they are and join up?? I need a knee replacement but have serious reservations about having it done at the VA…I'm sure medicare will now disallow it with their cut-backs and the health care bill isn't even law yet with it's huge medicare cut-backs…
so lets see if we get this right…
Cut the number of Doctors taking Medicare and increase- hundredfold- the people eligible for the program.
And a shortage of services might occur?
You're kidding right?
(sigh) Apparently.
One of my doctor's said he would quit and find other work if this crapola bill is made law…I'm sure other's will as well…they can certainly take their education and skills elsewhere and make more money and have far less hassle….then the gooberment will be importing more and more foreign doctors who you won't be able to communicate with unless you learn their language!!
There was a doctor interviewed on a radio show talking about that – the Amish. It was a great lesson in how this is a social problem (one they don't have.) I can't remember if the show was Bill Bennett or Alex Jones, though – hah!
Yeah – you're much smarter than Benjamin Franklin, who basically invented fire insurance 300 years ago to cover expenses no one could afford "to pay out of pocket"
You're wrong again, as anyone who can read (and understand) the 14th Amendment will know.
Most don't understand why the government option and/or universal healthcare is a mistake. To better understand one need look no further than Medicare and Medicaid. We all know about how many hospitals don't accept Medicaid at all and more and more are now rejecting Medicare due to government reimbursement. Some may point to this and say these government programs are far more cost effective than private insurance, but one needs to understand what exactly is happening. Government doesn't negotiate prices paid. They dictate. Hospitals initially give in to government demands reasoning that they'll make up the difference by billing both private insurance and cash paying patients more. This is why private insurance has risen faster than Medicare. But what private insurance manages better is fraud. Truly, both Medicare and private insurance are bilked for billions each year through fraud, but government is far more deficient in this role simply because they don't care about survival. Now dial ahead to proposals for a government option and what we're talking about isn't competition for private healthcare insurance. The government option can easily beat private insurance simply by following the Medicare model of dictating prices paid thus pushing hospitals to make up for shortfalls by charging private insurance more. Eventually, all private businesses will tire of paying more for private insurance and opt everyone into cheaper government option. We'll end up with two systems—–universal care, formerly known as the government option, and another system for the very wealthy who will pay extra to not be in the substandard government program. Substandard? Just look at Canadian helathcare and British healthcare. They both have two-tier systems with the universal care rationing care leading to long lines, increased mortality, and a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering.
You are right, for sure. I made the mistake of trying to make simple good sense to simpletons.
Private insurance is not a pre-paid system, any more than car or house insurance is. Stupid to even think of it as such. Insurance is a premium paid for "in case of" coverage – in car insurance, house insurance, and in medical insurance.
I was a VA doc from 1988 – 1991. Sounds like nothing has changed in 20 years.
They expect the current numbers of doctors practicing will treat the 30,000,000 or so newly covered patients without paying any more in total.
Good luck with that.
The AMA has totally sold out practicing physicians.
The good Doc's suggestions are EXACTLY what the GOP proposed, in several different forms, as their contribution to what should be put on the table for Obama's Health Care Reform bill – when the GOP still half-believed Obama's :"I will reach across the aisle" lies. . What they got was secret and private meetings, locked committee room doors, and the big lie told over and over – "they are the party of no, didn't contribute a thing…"
In relpy to Stu, no every physician gets paid for being on call. You should get real data before putting that out there. I'm sure there are more physicians taking call and providing free care in the middle of the night than there are those getting paid for it. Why do so many want to make it out that doctors are not that bad off? As a whole, doctors work harder for their take home dollar earned than so many others. Not to mention the loss of sleep and stress because they care about their patients and their patients' families.
Point of this article is excellent. The pay is marginal and when malpractice insurance is taken out, so often it is not worth the pay to go into the hospital in the middle of the night. But we do it. We do it because we care about patients. But we can't keep doing it if we lose money doing it. Who wants to go take care of someone in the middle of the night when we have to PAY to be able to do so?
Put facts out there, not just a situation or two that you know about.
I have no knowledge of California laws and practices, but that sounds like BS to me (having practiced in Minnesota, Mississippi, Maryland and Pennsylvania). In all four of those states you had to agree to be on call periodically to have admitting privileges, and there was no extra payment for it. You got paid if you treated someone when you were on call; nothing more, nothing less.
No, they will do what Dr.'s in Canada and England, and every other country with socialized medicine do. Provide "premium' service to those with cash to pay up-front, and ration service to those on the Govt. plan. "Hi John, yes, I can see you for those chest pains in about 10 weeks or so, Oh, you are going to pay cash for your office visit? Come right now, sound serious!"
Not to forget that the Muslim in the WH stated that since veterans were volunteers the responsibility for their care should be their responsibility. (or words to that effect) His henchmen covered this up too. Bottom line: Obama doesn't give a rat's ass about veterans.
Cardiologists are scheduled for a 40% decrease from Medicare this year (not 21% as for all other physicians). Where do you get this stuff you're claiming? My wife (the family cardiologist) and her partners have no idea what they're going to do if this isn't changed.
It can take years, but they pay what they owe, speaking from personal experience. I hate to generalize about groups, but they tend to have integrity missing in many.
Well, not really – as a community, they are just "self-insured". They act as their own insurance "pool" and pay cash for their services from their set-aside- pool of funds, their community "medical insurance" pool.
Exactly. Most Americans have no idea how bad it will get as a result of this and other idiotic decisions from the looney left.
It's simply to make up for uncompensated care – that is, care to patients who have no ability to pay. While hospitals are required to care for these patients (EMTALA legislation), doctors are not. So hospitals entice doctors to do so. But it still does not address the problems the government creates through the Medcare and Medicaid programs. They are disasters and only getting worse.
This particular cut does not affect hospitals, but many of them are already struggling from low payments from governmental payers (Medicare, Medicaid, TriCare, etc.). Government involvement in healthcare is what has largely created this so-called crisis.
It will folks trust the anointed one he has a plan. When the doctors quit we will have an emergency and we will need to pass a 3000 page bill or the country will die without doctors. Obama will take over the universities and produce doctors in a 4 year time span instead of 8. The bill will tell the universities how to train doctors for socialized medicine, will provide funds for non performing students to attend and all those "greedy doctors" won't tell us what to do anymore, we will create new one. Nothing to worry about he has it covered. just as he did so well with banking and the auto industry, the smelts waters in california and the terror attacks. Look at all the progress we have made.
Medicare, Medicaid, Private Health Insurance – they are all just ways of paying for health care. They have nothing to do with market prices.
To cut the "price" of health care you have to increase the SUPPLY of health care. The number of undergraduates who are accepted into MD or DO programs is artificially kept low. The number of MD's/DO's who are accepted into speciality programs is articially kept low. Start there, then look at barriers to entry for hospitals, clinics, etc. The FDA makes the USA the largest 3rd world nation when it comes to new technology.
I everyone has insurance for something everyone uses then is not insurance.Think about it.
Thre could be a "sick out " for doctors as a start. It is unconstitutional for the government to reduce payments below the cost of providing that service, or something like that.
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Only one problem with the "free market forces will take care of the rest." You can count on Oblamacare DICTATING that physicians provide care, for the dictated Oblamacare price. There will be no "free market" force operating here – only the coercive force of Oblamacare tellying physicians the terms under which they will practice medicine. You WILL provide the BUREAUCRAT'S PRESCRIBED TREATMENT for the GOVERNMENT's PRESCRIBED PRICE. PERIOD.
I have seen firsthand how bad it is already and it is just going to get worse. My MIL came to live with us when she was unable to care for herself. She had a "cadilac" Medigap policy and we still could not find a physician to take over her care. Finally we got her in to the geriatric clinic in our city. When she developed pneumonia and I took her to see the dr. we waited hours because the X-Ray machine was being repaired. Meanwhile her temp was over 104, blood presure skyrocketing, she was vomiting constantly with altered mental state. The doc kept insisting that he wanted to get the X-ray at the clinic. Eventually I had to call an ambulance to take her to the hospital where she nearly died from septic shock. And things are going to get worse?
Well, actually, Dr. D, I restricted my comments to California–as you will note. I have been a hospital attorney for the last 28 years and have negotiated thousands of on call contracts. I currently represently directly and indirectly some 28 California hospitals. The majority of physicians on the medical staffs of those facilities are paid for call and have been for some time. As you probably know, EMTALA requires hospitals to provide emergency room coverage in each specialty it offers on an inpatient basis. If it fails to provide call coverage for such specialties it risks significant fines and penalties. Ergo, there is considerable leverage–which physicians in my experience have no trouble applying–to pay for call. That some docs refuse call pay is also true, but decidedly a minority position. Also, some specialties are not offered call pay, but in my considerable experience it is rarely if ever cardiologists who fall into that category.
(More to follow in next email…)
As I also said in my prior emails, I thought the article well-written. I might add that it is timely, as well, and makes some very good points. I would note, however, that physician-expressed concern about making less money and how hard being a doc is, is not the most compelling argument one might make to the general public against Obamacare or any program that seeks to increase or even maintain the current level of state and federal government involvement in health care. (For the record, according to the 2009 Physician Compensation and Production Survey (using 2008 data) published by Medical Group Management Association, the definitive national publication concerning physician compensation, in the 4 major categories of cardiology–electrophysiology, invasive, interventional and non-invasive–the mean national compensation is in the range of $446,801 to $547,251. Not exactly the type of hardship that in and of itself, is going to motivate folks to hold tea parties to protest the plight of cardiologists.)
(Stilll more to follow in next email…)
You needn't let the perfect–from your perspective–be the enemy of the good. I am firmly on the side of those who think Obamacare is an extraordinarily bad and destructive idea. Its purpose has absolutely nothing to do with improving the quality, cost or availability of healthcare in the US, but rather is a naked power grab that will have signficantly adversely consequences for us all, both as patients and citizens. That means I am on your side no matter how impertinent you think I am for failing to agree with you 100%.
I know that what I want is for American medical schools to accept a bunch of candidates who can't later pass their board exams. Let's further decrease the quality of the doctors we produce by paying less, thus making the profession less attractive to the best and brightest. If you want poorer quality care, by all means, accept more people into medical school and pay them less when they get done.
Agreed! Unfortunately the "free market" in healthcare was shut down along time ago, made dramatically worse with Medicare/Medicaid and this "Oblamacare" is just going to accelerate it to absolute FUBAR! In the end though, the "free market" is only way we will ever have affordable healthcare. When demand for healthcare goes up then the supply of healthcare providers has to be allowed to as well. We as a society refuse to recognize that – Period!
Rationing is a symptom of a socialist economic system, which is what medicare is. a socialist economic system uses rationing as a cure for problems. For example in a free enterprise capitalistic economic system when there is more need for services or products in the marketplace this is seen as an opportunity to make profit by satisfying the consumers want or need. Under a socialist economic system the way to satisfy the consumers wants and need is rationing. As a consumer i want an economic system that will satisfy my wants and needs and not tell me to "ration". People we need to wake up!
At one of the top rated cardiology hospitals that is located in Houston, the cardiologist, and no other specialty, is paid to take call. As a hospital based non-admitting physician, this hospital is pushing my specialty to be in-house on-call, which for me means being reimbursed less than $4.60 per hour every third night! At the moment we take at home call and paying for our own teleradiology equipment, hardware and software, which is better than the hospital provides in-house.
So in a nutshell, Stu here in Texas that is BS.
Nailed it!
AMEN!!!
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1) tort reform needs to remain a state right
2) Congress needs to exercise their interstate commerce clause (btw regulate back then meant "to make regular") to open insurance across state lines. States back then did tariffs and other protectionist policies which is why Congress needed this type of power.
3) I am already utilizing a HSA and High deductable policy, yay
Interesting. What is your knowledge/experience of American Medical schools?
Nope, no difference. It is a fractional pre-paid service to be exact so it is more akin to socialism that a pre-paid service you might be thinking of where you only get what you pay but in advance. With insurance you pay in advance and make claims. Goverment-run would be one step beyond where taxation comes in to play. It ALL boils down to giving up power in hopes some soulless bureaucracy will reward you later – which must be justified with a "claim." The more it is relied upon, the more you give up. Insurance/government (little difference) always wins in the end – the disparity between premiums and payouts can be seen tangibly when you look at huge buildings they build. That should give you a clue its a bad deal. But people keep on getting it just like people keep going to Vegas and usually come back with some lie about how they won money (often failing to tell you they lost even MORE than they won – funny that little rationalization I've heard many a time.)
Will those in Hollywood, NBA, NFL, MLB, your local TV news reader be covered under?;
1- private big money medical care
or
2- government run deathcare
That's what I thought.
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My understanding of buying insurance across state lines…the primary reason insurance is cheaper in another state is because that state probably has fewer mandates than your home state. More mandates, higher cost. There is nothing preventing any insurance company from doing business in any state should they choose to.
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Actually, most doctors won't quit. Most are too invested, too leveraged, and far too undertrained in anything but their craft to provide for themselves and their families. It is the NEXT generation that will avoid medicine like the plague, what with mediocre pay, endless litigation, regulation only a leftist loon can love. We'll be invaded by foreign MDs of marginal training, no loyalty, and minimal ability. Welcome to the brave new world of global healthcare.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. The "supply" of healthcare is what makes it expensive. There's simply too much "supply". The reason: 3rd party payment. Think about it. Were someone payiing for your groceries, would you buy Hamburger Helper? Nope! It's steak and champagne. Now let the grocer make more the more he sells. What do you have? A consumer who is shielded from the cost of the product he purchases coupled with a purchaser who has an incentive to sell the most expensive ratyher than the merely acceptable. Only when people understand and are impacted by the COST of the product theyconsume will they consume less. Only when the supplier is paid for the act of supplying rather than being paid more for supplying more eextensive and expensive will there be less consumption. We all want to drive Mercedes, and as far as we know, we're all paying for Hyundais. What's unclear here?
This is a very good article, but it omits an important "counter" fact. Many cardiologists also receive a payment from the hospital(s) where they have privileges to practice–at least they do in California. The purpose of the payment is to secure the physician's agreement to be "on call" for a 24 hour period to respond to the emergency room physicians either by phone, or if medically necessary, to appear at the hospital and see/consult with an unassigned patient. (An unassigned patient would in the context of cardiology be a patient who doesn't have a cardiologist with whom he already has a physican-patient relationship or who receives treatment from a group that doesn't include a cardiologist.) The purpose of the payment is to secure the physician's availability and is paid whether or not the physician is called by the emergency room, consults with another physician, nurse or tech, or physically appears in the emergency room. These on call payments run in a very wide range and vary by specialty. But, in general, cardiologists receive among the highest on call payments.
Doc, it's stories like yours and the real impacts of this bill that go unreported by the MSM. The democratic talking points do everything to distract the public with false promises and fuzzy math and call opponents to the bill as Un-American.
Keep up the good work and let everyone know what this does to your practice.
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That's perfect! There will be an even greater shortage and Obama can use that for a new visa program to allow foreign doctors in.
Last year the combined federal, state and local governments of the U.S. spent $1.1 trillion on healthcare, or 47% of the total tab, yet we are all apparently unhappy about the results. Could it be that the distortions caused by nearly 40 years of government intervention in the healthcare marketplace are compounding the natural scarcity problem? Of course not. All we need is more government and we will solve the problem.
Of course rationing is occurring in the natural healthcare marketplace as well as the massive government marketplace. Rationing will only get worse as the rate of innovation necessary to reduce scarcity declines because innovators flee the marketplace as regulation, tort litigation, bureaucracy, and fraud and abuse far outpace productivity gains and financial rewards. The great tragedy here is this: Democrats and a large portion of the population believe that the government has both compassion and a conscience and therefore will take better care of us than private healthcare providers. Good Luck.
For more see:
http://thanksforthelaughs.wordpress.com/2010/01/0...
Best,
Lazy Jack
At one of the top rated cardiology hospitals that is located in Houston, the cardiologist, and no other specialty, is paid to take call. As a hospital based non-admitting physician, this hospital is pushing my specialty to be in-house on-call, which for me means being reimbursed less than $4.60 per hour every third night! At the moment we take at home call and paying for our own teleradiology equipment, hardware and software, which is better than the hospital provides in-house.
well the recent example of Mayo clinic in AZ withdrawing from providing health-care to Medicare population will be soon followed by number of other clinics/private offices. You always get what u paid for. Having the insurance that isn't accepted by most of the physicians won't help anyone. Medicaid is a good example of it. Medicare might join this list very soon.
Point taken and well stated, (re: physician-expressed concern about making less money and how hard being a doc is, is not the most compelling argument one might make to the general public against Obamacare). However, should a doctor be truly superior to their peers would you agree they should be able to charge a fee commensurate to that quality if the market would support it? Like wise, should they be average (which means they are "good enough”, i.e., they passed any required certifications) should the fee they charge only be as competitive as the market would force?
In the house bill [may be in senate too, I haven't a need to read that one] there is a lot of language that controls which medical teaching facilities get $, where those students who get loans can go to work, how many can be of a particular specialty… There is also a lot of control over service to minority areas…
I may be mistaken, but didn't they pass some legislation to control student loans too? Add the 2 together, along with the stimulus giving D.C. your electronic medical records-Another Hat Trick!
What's going to end up happening is physicians will simply turn their telephones off when they leave the hospital at the end of their shift if it isn't worth their time to respond and patients will die. Hospitals and doctors will also refuse to accept Medicare as payment leaving Medicare patients to pay the costs out of pocket when they are unable to locate a care provider that still accepts Medicare. The Mayo clinic is already starting to refuse to accept Medicare as payment for some of their services and that is only going to continue. Hospitals nationwide will look to the Mayo clinic as the model to emulate. You can't expect a hospital to run in the red year after year because the government refuses to cover the cost of providing service. Either the hospitals stop providing care at their own expense or they go under and then what happens to the rest of us?
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I am a practicing physician and I favor rationing. Here's why. http://bit.ly/5XxRWK
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As an on call perfusionist at the local hospital, we do not get paid for on call time. Only hourly employee's get paid for that time and its usually only $2.00/ hour at the most. Reimbursement for cardiac procedures has dropped so low that our cardiologists have been bought out by the hospital and are now their employee's. That eliminates the cardiologists having to purchase their own malpractice insurance and to pay for their office employee's benefit packages since they are now hospital employee's. More and more doctors are being bought out by hospitals to decrease their operating costs for their offices. Big groups of doctors are also become even bigger in order to level out their expenses. The only problem with large groups is that they rely on Nurse Practitioners to see their patient load and it is very unusual for a patient to see a real doctor unless they are really sick. The downside to that is the cost per treatment by a nurse practitioner is not less expensive, they cost is the same since they are really the eyes and hands of the physician. I see that changing in the future since Medicare will see that as an option to decrease office visit fees. The patients of the US will find in the upcoming years that accessibility for care will be diminishing significantly. The Medicare population will be hit the hardest with the young population next. Patients wanting to see a doctor for the common cold or flu will find they can not. The ER will be twice as busy as they were before since most people will not be able to find doctors to take care of them. Physicians will stop taking Medicare/Medicaid patients. Those patients will have to go to the ER for care.
COME ON! OUR MARXIST GOVERNMENT WOULDN'T LIE, WOULD THEY?
ARE YOU KIDDING? LAWYERS = POLITICIANS=CORRUPTED!
IF DOCTORS DID NOT PROTECT INEPT DOCTORS, I'M SURE THINGS WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM!
Your wife will have to refuse to see Medicare patients. Believe me, many many physicians are doing the same. The political dreamworld that envelops DC won't pay the bills.
Yes.
We could always go to a truly market based approach and do away with Medicare and insurance altogether…have patient's pay cash. Hmmm…supply and demand under those circumstances would dictate that a consult would have reimbursement of maybe $25…if that.
If only the focus of his not giving a rat's ass were so narrow…
Progressives are all about redistributing resources. The lie is that they take from the fortunate to benefit the unfortunate. The truth is that they steal from those that produce to line the pockets of those that produce naught but lies and corruption. We are nothing to them but chattel and bottomless pockets from which they extract their wealth and power. The poor are maintained in poverty and misery so that the progressive elite may thrive. The old and the sick are abandoned because they produce nothing to steal. Those of the military, either present or past, are to be regarded as dangerous to those in power because they have the training and knowledge to defend themselves and theirs. Best they be put in harm's way and hope that they don't come home. If they make it back, make it as hard on them as possible, and get them dependent on government "largess" as quickly as possible.
Go to Chicago. Don't fly in to O'hare, they put that out in the middle of nothing so you don't see the reality. Nope, go into Midway. Drive East to the Dan Ryan Expressway and turn North. Now watch out the passenger side window and note the block after block of those twenty-story section 8 brick toilets with the burn scars drifting up from every tenth or dozenth window. That is a Chicago Democrat's vision for America; because that is what keeps them in power. The relative pittance that is spent on maintaining this bloc of guaranteed votes is a sure bet. Every one of those thousands of people in those hell-holes is a slave; just as surely as if they were sweating in a Mississippi cotton field 175 years ago. LBJ's "great society" was nothing more than a redefinition of slavery in America. This current bunch of bastards in Washington, District of Corruption, is determined to put as many of us as possible into such bondage. I, too, fear that some "crisis" will be engineered to interfere with the electoral process. After all, they have certainly proven that they believe the Constitution to be immaterial. Get guns and ammunition to defend yourself, because dark days are on the horizon.
You ain't seen nothin' yet…
Perhaps the worst of the whole healthscare debacle is that the greedy parasites will begin their confiscatory fines and declines in compensation to providers long before they ever plan to provide any so-called "benefits". There isn't a damned thing to do with "care" in any of this. Control is the sole purpose of the entire effort. Any moron that can rub two brain cells together and get a spark must be able to see that problems with the health care system in this country can be fixed without some 2000 pages of lawyerese gobbledegook designed to obfuscate and conceal the theft and deceit this represents. Then consider the billions of dollars in "deals" and "incentives" to legislators that have absolutely nothing to do with correcting any perceived problems with medical care in the nation. We have the second Louisiana purchase at ten thousand percent of the cost of the original, for example. We didn't pay the French, this time, but the most expensive whore in the history of prostitution does have a French surname. The whoremonger from Nevada also took care of the world-class thief from Connecticut and the fat cats at the biggest insurance company in the breadbasket of the nation. This may well be the most shameful episode in the history of the Republic.
I couldn't agree more, I think the government marketplace is out of shape. Wish the government would hear us out.
Artificially kept low? That smells of, ……oh we have plenty of qualified candidates for medical school but we'd rather keep the pool small thus cheating our own institution out of huge tuition fees so as to keep the demand for physicians higher than the supply. No, I don't think so. It sounds more like you know someone that was rejected and can't come to terms with his or her rejection.
Uhh…no. Basic supply and demand determine price. Simple econ 101. If supply is constant and demand goes up prices go up. If supply goes down and demand remains constant, prices go up. If demand goes up and supply goes down, prices go up, up, and away. The reciprocal makes prices go down, increase supply, and/or decrease demand.
Private big money healthcare of course. It will evolve into a two tier system. One for the well-to-do and one for everyone else.
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Dr. Gray is not alone in his recommendations for health care reform. Please go to http://www.docs4patientcare.org – our group is on the same page with him. @Stu – as a cardiologist, I do not get paid for being on call, other than when I am hired as a moonlighter for a hospital that does not otherwise pay me a salary (and who collects the results of any billing that results.) What you describe sounds like moonlighting coverage.
Dr. Gray's "reform" suggestions can't be done.
1. End abusive medical litigation by passing patient-centered tort reform. – Tort law is a state-by-state issue. If you try to implement this the states-rights zealots in the GOP will kill it.
2. Let businesses purchase insurance across state lines. – Insurance is regulated on a state-by-state basis. In order to do this you would have to do insurance regulation at the federal level. The states-rights zealots…..
3. Give younger, healthier Americans tax incentives to purchase low cost/high deductible plans and let them put pre-tax dollars into a healthcare savings accounts. – This will run up the cost of insurance because the whole idea is to spread the risk among the entire population. Why give a break to those who can best afford to pay and who are least likely to need the care. Who will pay when THEY need the care?
C.L., the statement in your article about the reimbursement amount for a Cardiologist having to perform an after- hours consult is incorrect. The reimbursement is higher when you add CPT code 99053 for services provided after hours in a 24-hour facility. Second, most Interventional Radiologists do not pay $50,000 a year for professional liability insurance. rates are approximately $28,000. And as for your elementary reform solutions…get creative. The general public all know that the primary reason for unbridled healthcare spending is due to unnecessary care delivered by medical providers. Aggressive cost containment and the elimination of physician owned ventures in areas that are not designated by the government as being medically underserved is a start to reducing overall healthcare inflation. The absolute test to determine a fair salary would be to abolish the heavy subsidizes that artificially prop up the system, and migrate to a true market economy where all customers pay cash for services. This would then be the definite measure of physician’s monetary worth.
Get thy facts straight before holding yourself out as being an expert in medical economics.
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