Our Man Ken–There He Goes Again!
by Christian JosiIn yet another admirable display of the right kind of Attorney General activism, Virginia AG Ken Cuccinelli has put House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on notice that what she and the Democratic leadership are reportedly scheming to pass Health Care ‘reform’ is not only wrong — it’s unconstitutional.
Amidst discussion and arguments surrounding health care reform, is the effect passage will have on the re-election of Democrats in the Fall. The health care reform legislation currently in front of Congress is so widely unpopular on both sides of the aisle that Democrats have taken up the idea for a process called, “deem and pass” to get health care reform passed through.
Deem and pass is a process by which House Democrats will be able to avoid taking recorded votes on the Senate health care bill. Given the political environment and discussion within the blogosphere and mainstream media, the motives behind enacting this process specifically for this bill are highly transparent.
In a letter to the Speaker, above, Cuccinelli wrote, “A bill of this magnitude should not be passed using this maneuver. As the President noted last week, the American people are entitled to an up or down vote.” (He’s not exaggerating when he talks of the “magnitude” of this bill. It’s said to project up 2.5 trillion dollars in new spending).
“Based upon media interviews and statements which I have seen, you are considering this approach because it might somehow shield members of Congress from taking a recorded vote on an overwhelmingly unpopular Senate bill.”
“Deem and pass,” in this context, is an egregious violation to the democratic process. I applaud AG Ken Cuccinelli for not only acknowledging this, but also for being willing to stand against the crazies pursuing it.
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Is this going to go down in history as the 1st "shot" fired to call these snakes out on there un-Constitutional acts?
I hope so.
Thank you Kenneth for standing up unlike that empty suit Eric the jihad sympathizer Holder and thanks Christian for the info.
Thank goodness for the rebel spirit of Old Virginia.
I would serious considering relocating to Virginia – but, it's just toooooooo close to DC for my liking. And downwind, methinks.
The one video everyone needs to watch and listen to … They have been planning reconcilliation since day one !!!!
we are being played…. listen closley @3:10 listen to what he says !!! We need to get this everywhere before Sunday … Congressmen need to see this and ask questions to Nancy !!!!!!
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/03/de...
"seriously." Can't edit unless logged in, just found that out!
" I applaud AG Ken Cuccinelli for not only acknowledging this, but also for being willing to stand against the crazies pursuing it."
I also applaud the Virginia AG for taking a stand for States Rights. It is ironic, and chilling that we have come full circle since 1865, to have a States Rights issue once more divide our country.
Where's Gov. Rick Perry on this Obamacare? I've been searching the internet and can't find anything unless he hasn't released any statement.
God bless Ken Cuccinelli
I will be saying a prayer tonight for him and his family
I would also like to applaud Idaho:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/03/17/health.car...
They were the first State to step up to the plate. Everything is relevant, and I do not know if anyone noticed, but Slick Eddie Rendel, Governor of PA was on Cavuto today, blathering about this issue had nothing to do with States Rights, and that the Federal Government supercedes all States Rights.
Rendel is nothing but a paid whore and UNION hack, bought and paid for.
38 more states to come!
Sorry… it should have read "To The HONORABLE Nancy Pelosi"….Wrong in so many ways.
Yep, nice isn't it? Creeps, every last one of them.
Obama does not have the votes.
This Bill is a slow motion train wreck, 14 months in the making.
This is FAR from over.
He's on Greta right now.
This needs to be a derailment. I hope, I hope, I hope, oh man, do I ever hope.
In the spirit of the Democrat vote today on H.R. 1190 (BILL TITLE: Providing for consideration of motions to suspend the rules) to eliminate the need for full votes just in time to enact the disastrous healthcare legislation:
The Democrat Mantra:
Always say nay before voting yea
What better way to increase your pay
Because as we’ve learned, that’s the Chicago way
Nice job selling your votes Jason Altmire, et. al.
Hopefully Virginia, Idaho, and the 35 other states considering lawsuits are more succesful.
Best,
Lazy Jack
http://www.thanksforthelaughs.wordpress.com
The states that are trying to nullify really need to say what they are going to do to back up their rhetoric. Is this just grandstanding? The Supreme Court will never side with any state. Will they stand up to the Federal Government with local law enforcement? Will they reclaim state militias? I really want the states to take a stand, but it is just really hard to see how that would happen right now.
Perhaps a coalition of states is what's needed.
If you remove the 10th amendment, The Commerce Claus, and other such inconvenient truths Fast Eddy Rendel, might have a point.
I understand that 34 states are the looking into measures to repel Washington, and their galloping statism. Well done AG Ken Cuccinelli…just saw him on Greta, seems like a sharp guy!
twit
If the Democrats use unconstitutional measures to pass health care, this illegitimate use of legislative power will reveal that the Democrats do not represent the best interests of the American People at all, but are committed, socialist opportunists who utilize our democratic processes to undermine and subvert the constitution.
HONORABLE? Flush out your headgear. Despicable would be correct.
Chief Justice Roberts has to be salivating right now. The scorned 5 justices will let it be known to not publicly humiliate them.
Pelosi could not be elected dog catcher by a bunch of crazy cats,
Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole! The fuse it lit. Adios progressives.
36 states
Many thanks, Ken Cuccinelli, for standing for your country and daring to take on Goliath in this manner. And here I thought we'd be delayed slugging things out in the courts only after this monstrosity 'passes'. Laus Deo!
I'd like to slap the snot out of that slob.
Better!
You can bet he is rubbing his hands together, in anticipation.
and i doubt those crazy cats would waste a hairball on her
Right, and about 37 states have similar efforts on tap. The "Supremecy Clause" may trump all of these manuevers, but I hope it ties the bill up in litigation long enough to strip down to nothing. That might be the strategy.
Actually, the Supreme Court may side with the States this time around. Between the current makeup of the court (which has a slight conservative lean) plus the gross oversteps in Federal power and method Congress and all are pushing, AND Obama calling out the Supreme Court in his State of the Union (falsely) we're actually quite primed for a showdown between the Court and the other branches. Especially if the Court is backed up by the States.
No, Maryland is downwind of DC. We Virginian made sure of that. Please come though, we got to many damnyankee libs moving in and it's getting annoying here.
Let's hope the States can escape this craziness through litigation. This could be tied up in court for ever and ever amd ever….
They've been talking openly about the possibility of using reconciliation throughout this entire process. Haven't been paying much attention, have you?
The home of Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Mason, Henry and many more patriots against tyranny still remembers those words spoken so long ago in our hearts and minds:
"Give me liberty, or give me death."
And keep in mind our State Flag/Seal: time image of Virtus standing over a defeated and slain Tyranny with those immortal words: "Sic Semper Tyrannis" – "Thus Always to Tyrants."
We know who we are, Virginians, stand firm.
Cuccinelli is a birther. Good company for the unhinged Breitbart conspiracists.
@Rita I was wondering same thing. I fully expect Texas to be at the forefront of those states saying, "No way in Hell!"
Does anyone know if this thing is passed using the Slaughter rule & reconciliation, can the President sign the original Senate bill into law or does the whole 2-for-1 package have to go to the Senate and get approved (with 51 votes) before going to Obama?
Talk about your hanging friggen chads in Florida……………….
You forgot the greatest Virginian: Robert E. Lee.
MBee was refering to his typo above , guys. No need to flame him/her.
Do you reckon Obama will have second thoughts about disrespecting the Supreme Court at the State of the Union address?
Idiot.
I had the same thought. Wonder if Bam regrets pissing everybody off. I mean everybody. He's only got a couple hundred people on congress trying to ram this thing down on 300 million. This is a junta coup.
No doubt in my mind that Chief Justice Roberts sees the danger in what is going on.
Unhinged?
You don't have a clue about unhinged until you watch Barrack, Nancy and Harry come unwound in the next few days.
Can they get an injunction on this bill until it is overturned? With Slaughter rule? With states?
I understand the states will deny enforcement. Bam has already planned for that. He has 17K IRS enforcers, interpol, and council of governors standing ready. I'm afraid this is not going to end well.
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Birthers started with the Clintons trying to smear the other slime, Bam, in the primaries. Truthers are also on your side, and in the White House and Hollywood with the rest of the crooks and commies.
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I'm confused too, but think they both go and get amended in the senate and then the House has to vote again on the amendments for the final bill. But this house vote is to set it up for the reconciliation.
That would describe those that vote her in from San Francisco!
Missouri has a proposal very similar that should be coming soon. 35 others to come shortly.
Thank God.
Thinking everybody is a birther is an unhinged conspiracy. But don't worry, we haven't tracked your IP address and probably won't knock on your door in 24 hours.
He's probably restin' up from his primary campaign, down on some island, workin' on his
tan. Damn fool ijit better lay low & avoid steamin' piles of crap until after his re-election.
He's avoiding giving his Dem Gubernatorial opponent any ammo to use in the general, I
reckon. All that mouthin' off he was doin' earlier was just for the free publicity. He could
get on national tv without payin' for the time. Governor good-hair will return in the fall for
another helping of free air-time. Hide & watch!
you gotta admit he's fearless, the damned ol' fool. He'll say anything they tell him to.
Saw him about a week ago blathering on & on, can't even remember what it was.
Just occurred to me at the time he was a Chicago hack, sent out by the Adm.
You are right.
Perry is the consummate political animal.
In that light, he is a gutless piece of feces.
Another lie from Pelosi. The people already know who they are votes or no votes. Is this dumb or what.
I hear skid row calling for the Congress people who vote yes and it will be Obama responsible as well as you for losing your jobs and pensions. You say he promised you. Yeah, right. If he will lie to us he will lie to you.
Your usefulness is over. You opened the door to your own sad fate. You are through. You have no place to go but to skid row.
History has and will defend what I am saying.
No.
With all due respect, Gov. Ed Rendel is a New York Jew, who is Gov. of PA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Rendell
He is who I was referring to.
[...] to the table is going to reach full bloom very soon. Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has put Pelosi on notice that he’ll be filing suit in the U.S. Eastern District of Virginia – which has a [...]
I don't think they'll send it to the Senate, where it could be 'held up'. I heard it will go from
the House straight to obamaroid's desk for his signature, from several sources today &
yesterday.
We are an hour away from the border to Idaho…it is very tempting to pick up an move out of a prog state. I am hoping that we on the verge of a change here in Washington….I hear tell the balance may just be just around the corner….
Is that why the IRS is purchasing guns?
We're all so hungry for a fight, Perrys' bravado was refreshing, just as the Scott Brown victory
sent us into celebration before most of us even knew much about him. Same thing with Tom
Coburn today, although I tend to think Tom a more serious man. We're cruisin' for a bruisin'
& we'll back just about anyone who'll fight.
Not until they get to strike back at him. My biggest fear is that the he'll try and pull the same maneuver a FDR concerning the court and again succeed. But we'll see how things play out. Taking over even one of the legislative branches come November would be a great break on his agenda. We just have to hold off on the Republic-shattering legislation until Jan. 2011 (when a newly elected congress is seated), because I wouldn't put it past Reid and Pelosi to hold a lame duck session to try and push things through after they've lost in November.
I honestly can't claim he is the greatest Virginia. He is definitely on the list of great Virginians, but he's got to compete with so many greats I can't call him the greatest.
That said, I purposely left Lees off, as otherwise I would have had to add on three "Lees" to do them justice.
Remember all the ICE laptops that went missing, same thing will happen with the shotguns,
that multiple departments have bought.
Cuccinelli is not a birther, moron.
He was asked a hypothetical about what a lawyer could potentially use to challenge HCR. The question asked about eligibility (birther stuff) and he answered what a lawyer might do.
He has stated before and re-stated again after the interview that he believes Obama is a citizen and the eligibility stuff would not be part of his arguments against Obamacare.
Now kindly go screw yourself, lib.
My bad CL, gettin' late, excuse me while I remove my head from my ass.
Yes.
I even debated posting that, for fear of it being inflammatory, or called racist. People tend to let their ignorance blind them when it comes to Lee.
He did more to mend the Union after the war, than anyone. Prior to surrender, he insisted his Army be surrendered, as opposed to heading into the brush to continue a guerilla war.
When Virginia seceded, Lee said " As goes Virginia, so must go I".
He resigned his commission, took off his uniform, and turned his back on his entire lifes work, all out of a sense of duty, honor, and obligation. He lost it all, to join a cause that ne knew would not win. He was an old man at the time.
Nobody in Washington DC today; all the politicians COMBINED to not have a shred of the character that Robert E. Lee had.
Peregry you are soooooo right about the lame duck session, it would be totally in
character for the 'wicked witch of the west' to exact revenge on America for taking
her Speakership away.
Most folks don't know this, you might:
Congress, to its credit, overwhelmingly voted in favor of the resolution and President Gerald Ford indicated his willingness to sign it. The signing ceremony took place on August 5, 1975, at Arlington House, the former home of General Lee’s family. The room was filled with distinguished citizens and dignitaries including Virginia’s Governor, its Senators and its Representatives. These excerpts from the comments President Ford made at the signing ceremony are a fitting tribute to Robert E. Lee.
"I am very pleased to sign Senate Joint Resolution 23, restoring posthumously the long overdue, full rights of citizenship to General Robert E. Lee. This legislation corrects a 110-year oversight of American history. It is significant that it is signed at this place.
contd. from above
Lee's dedication to his native State of Virginia chartered his course for the bitter Civil War years, causing him to reluctantly resign from a distinguished career in the United States Army and to serve as General of the Army of Northern Virginia. He, thus, forfeited his rights to U.S. citizenship.
Once the war was over, he firmly felt the wounds of the North and South must be bound up. He sought to show by example that the citizens of the South must dedicate their efforts to rebuilding that region of the country as a strong and vital part of the American Union.
Personally, I have only two genuine hero's in my life.
Robert E. Lee
and
Ronald Reagan
There are a couple important Red Men, but that is another topic.
It isn't grandstanding. The National ID Act was nullified just a few years ago. The Ninth and Tenth Amendment in the Bill of Rights are not a figment of the imagination, regardless of what the NY Times prints. And as far as federal law superceding those of the states, that is a blatant lie by old Pinchie. The states ratified a Constitution for a representational republic, not a national democratic government. So look like things will come to loggerheads between those who understand the founding of the nation and the legitimate bounds of government and the progressive liars of the last century.
[...] to the table is going to reach full bloom very soon. Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has put Pelosi on notice that he’ll be filing suit in the U.S. Eastern District of Virginia – which has a reputation [...]
Amen. Yankees and illegals are what dragged us down to begin with. Northern Virginia has become a cesspool of Progressive subversives.
Didn't Texas secede already? lol!
unfortunately members of Congress won't lose much with their jobs as they have full medical for life, and a pension that is more than most of us will ever make, Snakes are cold blooded creatures.
The game is afoot! The real power is held by the Lt.Governor in Texas, everybody is on board and the Attorney General is working on it.
Believe you me, Texas won't back bench this.
Texas will ot be bullied and subjugated by this Federal government. NEVER.
The Dept. of Education is also buying SHOTGUNS! Weird huh?
Hundreds of missing D.H.S. handguns also, unbelieveable!
It fills me with pride to see the Commonwealth of Virginia finally remembering what it once stood for. For years, the great men of Virginia who brought this nation into existence have been shamed by Virginia's abandoning so much of what made it great. It was in Richmond that Patrick Henry proclaimed "give me liberty or give me death"; it was in the countryside near Williamsburg that Thomas Jefferson penned the Declaration of Independence, and it was at Yorktown that tyranny was defeated, surrendering abjectly to a raggletaggle citizen army as a band played a tune called The World Turn'd Upside Down. Thank you, Mr Cuccinelli, for picking up the gauntlet that has lain in the dust for too long. You make me proud to be a native of Virginia.
Wasn't it the Idaho Govenor who already signed papers to be put in motion if this nightmare passes?! I could live in Idaho, beat the hell out of Illinois!!
Ditto the applause for Mr. Cuccinelli …. I wish we had more people like him in our government. The only thing I can see wrong with the letter he sent to Pelosi is the way it's addressed…
"To The HONORALENancyPelosi"…………….
There is NOTHING honorable about that scheming, dishonest, lying horrible woman.
He also looked like an honest guy. Seems easier to tell with the rampant liars running around acting like hooligans in DC.
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Rick Perry?
He's getting his hair done.
I would guess that the Federal Government would point toward the Supremecy issue, but I'm not sure that applies here because we're not talking about competeing similar legosaltion but rather the impostion of mandates on the individual states, and that would be the issue. I really don't know. We need a Constituional lawyer who, unlike Obama, actually went to class and respects the Constitution.
Obama seems to think of our Constitution as an impediment to his schemes.
The State of Texas voted for the wrong candidate earlier this month. They needed Medina badly but they voted for a career politician instead.
Perry would still need to sign it. Will he? He needs Obama's money to balance his budget.
WE IN VIRGINIA LOVE KEN! An AG with INTEGRITY! Keep up the great work Ken. Hopefully this will begin the end of the obummer-pelosi-reid nightmare that is ruining this country! California, you should be LUCKY enough to find a Ken in your state. That way you won't send clowns like pelosi, boxer, waxman, sherman, harmon, feinstein and the rest of the liberal loons to Washington where they can RUIN our country instead of your once great state!
Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Clause!
Buy more Ammo and food. Just some good advice. This is not going to go over well…
Hey, Not Likely, we need the tapes for the trials!
Some of the public who have not wakened yet will need to hear it.
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That also entered into my thought process, but R Lee was one of the greatest Virginians. He is also unfairly treated in many places (though most in Virginia still revere him, even ones educated in public schools believe it or not). I also decided to stick with the founding fathers, rather list all the important Virginians who would stand with us (which would get quite long).
Am from Philly originally and know fast Eddy well. He made the news when he was caught on tape saying that he was behind Hilary b/c he couldn't get [rank and file] in PA to vote for a black man. He had to back pedal double time on that one.
He is the worst creepy pol you could come across. Part of the well-oiled Dem machine in PA. Very dirty.
Maybe this has been the strategy all along. Divide and concure. On the eve of President Lincoln's trip to Washington DC, the southern states had already talked about pulling out of the union. Seems they'd had it with the northern states in particular telling them how to run their state economies. So history does have a way of repeating itself. If it's going to happen, let it happen now during my lifetime so I can help ensure the general safety and welfare of my posterities future so they can live in peace.
so true !!! Been doing just that
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So Zebo, you seem to be an authority on Medina, tell me what was the lawsuit mentioned
deep, deep in her web-site press releases. There were nws ppr clippings I read, but could
never figure out what the lawsuit they referred to were about. Quite mysterious, & pretty
sloppy work on the part of her campaign staff, I might add. Never put a question in a pot-
ential voters mind, that you do not answer. Only showed me Medina was not ready for prime
time. She might be able to run a small state, say NM, but a heavily populated state like Tx
with a vibrant economy, not at this time. Wish her good luck, though.
He'll milk it for all the free national publicity he can get out of it. Perry actually thinks he's
presidential material. I'm surprised Bush didn't appoint him as Secy of Hair or somthin'.
Wasn't Fast Eddie the DA in Philly when they firebombed those black people back in the 8'0's?
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