‘Access to Guns,’ Not Jihad, to Blame for Ft. Hood, Says Noted Islamic Scholar
by Charles C. JohnsonImam Zaid Shakir came to speak at my school, Claremont McKenna, on December 9th to respond to the “tragedy of Ft. Hood.” Rather than respond to the massacre of American servicemen, Shakir spent the evening indicting the United States – saying “we were born in genocide.” The reason for the Ft. Hood Massacre, according to Shakir? Not jihad or Islamic fundamentalism, but the “pervasiveness of violence in our society” and because of Americans’ “easy access to guns.”
Zaid Shakir – Final from The Claremont Conservative on Vimeo.
For those wondering who Mr. Shakir is, he’s the go-to expert on Islamic issues for the mainstream media. The New York Times describes him as a “leading intellectual light,” while rap scholar, Cornel West says “he is one of the towering principle [sic] voices not only in contemporary Islam, but in American society,” according to this biography. Most recently, he was described by John Esposito as one of the “500 Most Influential Muslims.”
After comparing the massacres at Ft. Hood by Major Nidal Hassan to the Columbine killers and Maurice Clemmons, of Mike Huckabee pardon fame, Shakir said that the violence we have seen was not a “Muslim problem,” but a problem for everyone. You never quite know when someone will “snap.” [The following is extracted from a transcript from audio I took of the public lecture at my college.]
There is not a Muslim problem. Especially based on the number of Muslims who have done this particular act. It’s not a Korean problem because the kid in Virginia tech was a Korean American. It’s not a white American problem because the kids in Columbine or several other places were white Americans. That’s not the common denominator, race is not the common denominator, religion is not the common denominator, gender–maybe, I would say they should just chill out. What is the common denominator. The common denominator is easy access to guns. The common denominator is that there are more guns in America than there are human beings. There are more guns in America than human beings, and they are easily had. And if someone tries to limit their accessibility, they’re going to be challenged by the NRA, the National Rifle Association–one of the most powerful lobbies in this country. That’s the common denominator. So if we are serious as a society about stopping this violence, it doesn’t behoove us to demonize Muslims. We’re here to talk about Muslims, I’m not trying to dodge that, but if behooves us to make it far, far, far more difficult for people to get their hands on a gun. And if we’re not willing to do that, it’s easy to go blame the Muslims. That’s easy and that’s why so many people do–it’s a national sport. Vilify the Muslims, they’re weak, they can’t fight back.
Of course left unsaid is why we should ban guns on a military base. Shouldn’t Major Hassan, a U.S. Army officer, be carrying a gun on such a military base? And what of the quick thinking of the law enforcement personnel on the scene who were well armed?
But “the violence that permeates our society spills over to other shores,” Zaid said. To prove his point, Shakir totally misrepresented history, claiming for instance that “the last time any Muslim country encroached upon a Christian country” was “300 years ago, the second Ottoman siege of Vienna,” and utterly ignoring the Armenian genocide or the civil war in Lebanon, to name just two quick examples.
He claimed, among other things that the American invasion and occupation was to blame for the hostility between Shiites and Sunnis – ignoring that the Battle of Karbala between Sunnis and Shiites, occurred in Iraq some centuries ago. And while violence between Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq was rare before 1991, that was only because Saddam Hussein’s Sunni-dominated Baath party kept its hands tightly on the reigns of power.
In addition, Zaid referenced the infiltration by the FBI of a Muslim mosque in Irvine, CA – trying to “whip up people.” He advised Muslims to resist those “agent provocateurs” “infiltrating our community and our mosques, try to provoke us to harm our fellow citizens in any way,” but left out that the FBI uncovered a plot to bomb buildings and arrested one man, Ahmadullah Niaza, for concealing his connections to al-Qaeda on naturalization papers. Maybe the reason the FBI infiltrated the Irvine mosques was their jihadi connections?
But this narrative of being infiltrated fit in with his view that Muslims are the victims of an increasingly hateful American society. Incredibly and without evidence, he said, that if you “turn on the radio, there are people actually saying, ‘Go kill some Muslims. One of them killed some of us, go kill, you see a Muslim, just shoot him.’ On the radio!”
He continued,
You can say things about Muslims you can’t say about any other group. [mimicking someone with objections ]“Oh, that’s not true.” You can’t go on the radio, public air space, regulated by the Federal Communications Commission, and say “We should go out and kill group A, group B, group C.” You can say it to Muslims, no one will say anything. No one will say anything. You could print it, no one will say anything. Muslims are the enemy after all. So Muslims who are just minding their business, trying to make a good life, raise their children, go to work every day and hear that? What should you do? Well (inaudible), you should patiently persevere in doing the good things you are doing.
It’s an interesting narrative, but this “nation born in genocide,” didn’t go after Muslims after Fort Hood, despite the articles fearing a “backlash.” Maybe, just maybe, the land of the free is a good place for Muslims, after all, notwithstanding Shakir’s attempts to deflect the very real threat of Muslim violence against America.
But don’t take my word for it. Listen to Imam Shakir in his own words in the video above or read the transcript below.






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Right, so a Major in the US Army shouldn't have access to guns. That would solve everything.
Of course, let's get right on this solution!
What an idiot.
Access to exploding panties was also responsible to the Christmas Day bomber, as well.
Remember the movie "Mars Attacks"? "We come in peace."
Yeah, all around the world. Hossschitt.
What a moron!
Political Correctness is to blame for the shooting. How is it that this guy gets away with proselytizing to shoulders but ABC points out AR15 gun sights that have bible VS embedded in the model number.
Dude is an IDIOT!!!!
I LOVE MY GUNS!!! I LOVE MY SIG SAUER!!! I AM A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER!!!
I LOVE MY 2nd Amendment rights!!!
Aaahh its all coming so clear now thanks to the good Imam.
It was the handguns that were screaming "Allahu Akbar" not the Islamojag…
He was merely holding the guns. The triggers were pulling themselves… How silly of us not to understand this earlier.
This guy Imam Zaid Shakir is an idiot at best but more likely dangerous, pure and simple.
I ask you to send this out to every gun owner on your email list.
In case you're NOT ticked off about something, just watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMeDmV0ufU
I'll keep my rebuttal of this Islamofascist pig's blamestorming session down to 4 words:
Nick Berg
Daniel Pearl
noted by whom ???? we guard our freedom with guns…………….and use your mosques for target practice
Shakir – the same Muslim who advises terror-linked CAIR, and who was recorded on tape telling Muslims that attacking Fort Bragg (North Carolina) is permitted…
“Islam doesn’t permit us to hijack airplanes filled with civilian people,” Shakir once told a Muslim audience. However, “If you hijack an airplane filled with the 82nd Airborne, that’s something else.”
The 82nd Airborne Division’s elite paratroopers fly out of Fort Bragg, N.C., which is part of North Carolina state Sen. Larry Shaw’s district. Shaw is CAIR’s new chairman.
The recording of the lecture, which Shakir gave earlier this decade to a Muslim audience in the San Francisco Bay area
I guess, then, that we need to stop Muslims from having guns? I would hope that would include the Head Nanny What's In Charge…
They can have my guns.. only after I give them the bullets first
Also the guy behind the first accredited Muslim university in the US
Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula number two Sufyan al-Azdi al-Shahri called for attacks against US interests "everywhere," in an audio message released Monday.
"American and Crusader interests are everywhere and their agents are moving everywhere," Shahri said. "Attack them and eliminate as many enemies as you can."
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Attack US interests Everywhere (including US)!
So now is the time for everyone (including military) to disarm?
Right!
Push your agenda elsewhere Imam Zaid Shakir, how about in the Middle East.
Shakir said what…????
“the last time any Muslim country encroached upon a Christian country” was “300 years ago, the second Ottoman siege of Vienna,”
I suppose you can not consider what happened on September 11, 2001 as an encroachment upon a Cristian country.
Damn that separation of church and state thing, I knew it would come back to bite in the ass one day.
Besides Shaky Shakir is making his case as result of to many handguns in our society and not to many airplanes.
Anyway not to change the subject but…….
WHAT THE F__K IS THIS S.O.B. DOING SPEAKING ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS.
This PUTZ must miss the news from the Gaza strip of Iraq. Another academic with all the PC ideas, It's not your fault it's those darn guns that are killing people. If we take away all the guns then everthing will be OK.
Remember "Those who beat their swords into plow shears will plow for those who didn't". The GOVT. will protect you!
911 = GOVT. dial a prayer
Gun control is a two hand grip and your finger off the trigger until you are on target.
I suppose if the people of Iran had some 2nd amendment rights, those protesters wouldn't be shot down in the streets or dragged from there homes……….This man ,muslim or not can freaking kiss it where the sun don't shine………………
Here we go again… building political straw men and they taking them down. Some whackjob says something stupid so you build him up into something he isn't, like a spokesperson for liberals or American Muslims or gun control advocates. He spoke only for himself, and no one ever listened to him until you made him the issue.
Then all you have to do is sit back and watch the racist knuckleheads take it from there…. excellent post. Or should I say, "Mission Accomplished".
The New York Times describes him as a “leading intellectual light.”
Cornel West says “he is one of the towering principle [sic] voices not only in contemporary Islam, but in American society.”
He is described by John Esposito as one of the “500 Most Influential Muslims.”
The Progressives love him, and therefore Zaid Shakir is bad for America.
Why in the world would anyone listen to this idiot? I hereby confer on him his Jihadi title: "The Shanker-Canker". His surname: Shakir is an affront to me for many reasons and my deeply held faith (isn't that the excuse these muslim nut jobs always give…good for the goose…good for the gander) and to continue: he is an affront to me and all God fearing peoples because his given name is too close to Shakir-a. Shakira is a hot latin dancer from Columbia and this guy is just a slimmed down love child looking like the unholy spawn of Henry Waxman & Ron Jeremy. I cannot allow this affront to continue he must be renamed to: "The Shanker-canker".
Sorry I have to go now…I need to buy more guns….Oh yeah thanks Eric HJolder for making sure that gun and ammo prices have "shot" up since you and your Jihadi buddies started this rabid gun control agenda.
Well said. I feel the same way.
Amen
"Law Enforcement" will be wearing body armor and using SWAT tactics. They'll be glad to take your bullets before you even have a chance to fire them. And with this post, you probably should expect them to start shooting before starting entry or announcing who they are. Not that that's much different from their usual modus operandi anyway. And if you're foolish enough to belong to a group that opposes what's being done to this country, expect that it has already been infiltrated and the group's actions and discussions are regularly being reported to the FBI. The stench is overwhelming.
I refer you to the post from DontTreadOnMe, right below this one.
what a Pogue f**k….yeah how typical – to blame an inanimate object for your insane death cults' (oops I mean religion) blood worshiping rites. Go f*#k yourself jihaddy. It would be completely laughable if the American "media" didn't give these nut-jobs air time and allow them to wrap themselves in mantles of pseudo-legitimacy. You can come and try to take my guns – you'll get them hot and empty. Oh well at least that dirtbag Murtha has exited the stage.
Muslims are allowed to lie to Kufers.
If you want to learn about Islam read about Mohammad's life. Read about the thousands of people he killed, raped and robed.
Dude is a taqiyah artist (a liar who promotes the spread of Islam.) How many useful idiots out there will believe him though?
a useful idiot.
you need to be disarmed before sharia can take over.
Charles, WND has an article about Zaid Shakir entitled "CAIR speaker to Muslims: OK to attack Fort Bragg – Exhorts Islamic faithful to target planes carrying '82nd Airborne"
A real eye-opener.
Link: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=115687
"Vilify the Muslims, they’re weak, they can’t fight back."
BS. Almost everyone cowers for fear of 'offending the Muslims'. The ACLU is ready to demand airports install footbaths for Muslims. Can't publish Muhammad cartoons for fear of offending Muslims.
Why was this guy not booed away from the podium?
How was it that he was not ridiculed and his every "point" challenged"? How did he get away with spouting these lies?
Maybe some Slim Whitman will make their brains explode, too.
If only.
Dude is an IDIOT!!!!
Better go buy all the GUNS and AMMO you can! THE GUN BAN WILL BE COMING NEXT!
Yeah — yeah that's it !! We got to stop allowing the military to have guns !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(do I really need a Sarc tag for this — I think not)
Wow, Zaid Shakir had some good valid points. I thought of another generalization, and that is Postal Workers. A few of them have snapped, but all of them get broad stroked as loons.
Nut cases should be looked as what they are – nut cases. As with Timothy McVeigh who met with Terry Nichols in 1988 at Fort Benning and later planned the Oklahoma City Bombing.
Somehow I'm thinking a Muslim is not exactly an impartial observer when it comes to Americans having guns (i.e. being able to defend ourselves). An unarmed American population would be a lot easier to terrorize and eventually conquer – now wouldn't we? Just like the Jewish people were in Hitler's Germany.
And exactly HOW is the USA MORE violent than Muslim countries????
This is sick! And after reading this, because I am, afterall, an innately violent American, I can think of at least one really good use for a gun!
old daley in chicago said the same thing. so i guess we need to arm out fighting men with spit balls and rubber bands. notice they never blame the radical muslim who pulled the trigger.
I am so ashamed of owning a gun. I'd rather have a bazooka. /s
Does he work for the UN??
remember they hide weapons in their mosques, and shuttle around terrorists in ambulances. nothing says coward like a terrorist who hides behind women and children.
I have no problem with this fellow trying to take my guns. So long as he does it personally.
What in the hell are we doing wrong that this nutcase isn't hiding under his porch or in his basement?
Who taught him this gall & bravado, some community organizer? Who invited him to speak at this school?
Who showed up to listen to this drivel? Was a counterbalancing speaker invited as well? This is
insane. Are we going to sit back & let this happen with no protest, in much the same manner we let the
progressives take over the academy. If so in 25 yrs Muslims will be 90% of the tenured profs. We wonder
today how the bozo was elected, in 30 yrs we'll be living under sharia law. By the way I am not implying the
Pres is a muslim. What could this worm possibly have to say that our university age young people need to hear?
BTW, Guns are not that easy to get (unless you are a criminal and buy them off the street)!
If this guy is considered the "go to guy" for the lame stream media and for those wonderful law abiding rappers then it is obvious he is an enemy of the United States and anything he says may as well be from Bin Laden himself. These are the people our media embrace, enemies of the US, so we can dismiss anything this guy has to say just as we've learned to ignore our propagandist media.
Just what we need a child raping, woman abusing, religions of blown to pieces half wit telling american kids where are country went wrong.
The majority of the middle east and persia should be flushed down the toilet of history, no sane person would miss it.
The Liberals Muslim poster boy.. they are so in league with our enemies…and this is a blantant example of it. Disgusting and shows how sick these leftists whacks really are.
People who fear your guns are dangerous. Simple as that.
Idiot, it's the PROGRESSIVE idiots building him up. Will you please work on your reading comprehension for the love of God?
mikatollah is well -known as an intellectual lightweight around here.
So we are supposed to disarm the military? Hmm hmm hmm. Where have we heard that before. Oh, yes. The USS Cole personnel had no bullets in their guns. Thank you BJ Clinton.
Since the Muslim hordes began taking over Europe in the 700, they have used the sword. Now they also have the bombs and the guns. Their goal is to kill everyone who is not a Muslim. It's their religious belief.
Danny Pearl was decapitated for his religions beliefs which were contrary to those of the "religion of pieces."
A noted Muslim scholar noted that while not all Muslims are terrorists, it was a sad thing that most terrorists are Muslims.
If this dude were a Christian we certainly would be blaming his religion for the murders. It's the way Christophobes view the world. It's all about religion to the Mohammedans. All a pickpocket sees is pockets.
here we go AAAAGAIN the white man and his society are to blame…..well here's some more B.S….if zaid shakir is a scholar, i'm a one legged blind nba star.
Zaid Shakir said it was access to guns not jihad that caused the Fort Hood massacre. If he truly believes that he is a FOOL, but I believe he is trying to divert our attention from the fact that Islam is at war with America. Nidal Hassan was a Islamic jihadis. BTW Mayor Daley said the same thing being PC and blaming guns.Just remember this religion believes and condones HONOR KILLINGS, in which they kill by many means besides guns. The American people also must remember, the radical Muslims believe Americans are infidels; and the infidels will have to convert to Islam, be enslaved or killed. So, beware of the “Trojan Horse,” Osama bin Laden and the Muslim Brotherhood called for a “Civilization-Jihadist Process,” in which they would destroy the Western civilization from within. So are Muslims infiltrating America to destroy it from within? We must remain vigilante.
Gee, don't hold back or anything…
No it's not. It's the ones like you who would like this guy to be built up. I stand by my post.
This is exactly why I have weapons. The people who tell you not to own one are the people who are going to shoot you when your not looking (wives & parents aside sometimes). Our enemies are working to kill us now. They have access to billions of weapons. There are around 10 in Afghanistan per person in the country. That is the time when our country is all out attacked. Part of the reason we don't have invasions on our soil is due to the fact that any invading force (Communists, terrorists etc…) knows they would have to deal with our military & our people who are armed. That is why the communist/liberal agenda has been pushing this ban for years. If they can remove our way to defend ourselves then we are powerless. It's not just an outside invasion as the reason to have guns. It's also to make sure the governement doesn't get too big for their britches & we need to give them a gut check.
Washingtons DC's ridiculous prohibitive gun laws were overturned by the supreme court and the murder rate has since plunged, now the criminals know people are armed and they arent the only ones with guns. The ft. hood a-hole used his gun in a gun free area, thats what the cowards do they go where they best think no-one is armed, just like the Va tech shooter did, And Obama wants us to give up our nukes, he thinks our enimies will too, Liberal idiots!
dont bring words to a gunfight ya dumb shi#
Why do so many Americans believe in this kind of feces? Why do we listen to them? These people kill with explosives that target children and other innocent people. Of course if we have no guns, their plan to take over the world will be accelerated. With the muslim in the US White House, we will just get more and more of this kind of stuff. I have guns, they have NEVER gone out to kill or harm anyone!! They just stay in their place – until a person comes along to use one. Why do we keep blaming "guns" when it's Religion that has killed more people than anything else with the use of viiolence.
Know your role Troll…!
Moron.
You want to see why Americans have guns? Bring your bulls**t style of fighting here and watch what happens.
The 2nd amendment is to protect Americans from thugs like you who have only one goal in live, to destroy anyone who opposes you.
Welcome to America where even though we don't like it, we allow you to voice your opinion, it's called "FREEDOM OF SPEECH".
In your country, you would be dragged off to some unnamed spot and executed without prejudice. Some people would wonder where you went, most wouldn't care.
Aren't you glad you can come to America and speak your voice against those who allow you to do so?
I bet you feel good about yourself don't you…
IMHO, you're a moron and a hyprocrite
Again, the same old liberal / socialist canard of blaming the gun – not the defect holding, pointing, and using it.
Now coming from an Islamic Scholar who claims that it's not jihad or Islamic fundamentalism, but the “pervasiveness of violence in our society” and because of Americans’ “easy access to guns.” This same religion that touts rivers of honey and 72 virgins, uses women and children as human hand grenades, a relgion in countries where there are no gun laws – Somalia, Yemin, Gaza, Jordan; and proudly posts pictures of small children in jihad dress carrying RPGs and AK-47s.
What idiot invited him to your school, and why didn't you all get up and walk out on this propagandist.
Believe unicorns and griffins are fighting a holy war over hot cocoa, for all I care.
You're being quite generous, don't you think…? lol
Actually, mosques are and were excluded as targets, under the ROE, even under President Bush.
Two points
1. Technically unless you are qualifying, are an MP, or doing some other various form of training you are not carrying an issued weapon stateside. Just wanted to clear that up. I don't think access to guns was the issue but that's not to say that Maj. Jihad should have been carrying a weapon stateside.
2. Sunnis and Shiites hate eachother going back to a religious debate on whether Mohammed told Muslims to follow his son after he died or not. I was in Iraq…their hatred for one another as NOTHING to do with Americans.
Generous AND polite.
mik says conservatives WANT to build this guy up into something legitimate, but he provides NO quotes from conservtives to back it up, and insists that the simple fact that we're talking about him proves that we think he has some kind of credibility. Meanwhile, the leftie usuals fawn in sourceable print and mik misses the point altogether.
You voted for Obama admit it
Yeah, well…What can you honestly expect out of someone who consistently posts inflammatory rhetoric, just for the conflict, day after day. He's either a sick sort of sadist, or a complete moron. I'll let you be the judge of that one…I already have my opinion. lol
This is part of the Taqiyya to distract and confuse "the enemy" which is us. Anyone who seriously believes that Nidal Hasan's attack was not Islamic Jihad is in complete denial, committing willful blindness.
"What all these muslim mouth pieces fail to remember is that Americans can READ and know history". We know that the koran says it's "ok" to lie, so no muslim can be trusted! The koran also says make no friends of Christians and their book says to kill the Jews. So, by following your religion you have no defense if American Christians, Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Mormans, or any other religion other than islam would rather you exercise one freedom you have here and leave. I understand Mecca is quite nice this time of year.
Further, Americans now have to go through rediculous security measures to board airplanes in this country because of islam where islam single handedly made flying miserable worldwide. For that alone you jerks should never be allowed on any public transportation.
We bombed Hiroshema and Nagasaki because the Japanese high command refused to surrender and a simple cost analisis of American lives as opposed to Japanaese lives (after the Battan death march and surprise attack on Hawaii) the decision was correctly made to save American lives.
May I commend your taste. Sig Sauer is an excellent brand. For self-defense, it's hard to beat 45ACP, if you want to stick to commonly available ammo. I own a P245 with which I will never part. I hope to get its full-size brother, a P220, before too long.
I know some people express concern over recoil with 45ACP, but it is surprisingly gentle for the wallop it can deliver. It's slow, and consequently has less sharp recoil than even 40SW, IMHO.
WOW so then access to bombs not Islam leads to terrorism right?
Availability of gun is the problem. Now that's strange. This Jew is fairly well-armed, and the sum total of people killed using my arsenal is less than the number of people by Teddy Kennedy's car.
Maybe it the value (or lack of value) placed on human life in the soul, which guides the brain, which guides the trigger finger, of the wielder of the weapon which is the problem.
I have the P229! It kicks major ASS!!
Getting a P239 2nd gen two tone in about 6 weeks!
This guy is crazy.
Another noted islamic apologist. Access to bombs is the problem islamic with terrorists I suppose.
I think the Columbine massacre is an accurate analogy. Another would be the Oklahoma City Bombing. In both these instances, these people were white supremacists. But we don't go around saying that "whiteness" or whatever is to blame for these acts of terrorism. Some may even find it peculiar to call the Columbine kids and Timothy McVeigh "terrorists" despite the fact that they, by definition, were. What Shakir misses is that extremist ideology IS to blame in all of these instances, including Ft. Hood.
Shakir seems so preoccupied with venerating ALL Muslims that he misses a crucial point: violent extremism exists in ALL communities, whether they be white, black, latino, conservative, Christian or Muslim and that people should take a strong stand against anyone who espouses these ideologies in their community. Take the violent rhetoric of people at the fringe of the Tea Party movement or Bachmann and Palin throwing around the word "revolution" like that does not imply violence. Yet we see not one Tea Partier step up and say "hold on…this kind of language and rhetoric is dangerous and wrong."
What Shakir instead should be saying is that our militarized society creates a climate in which some people feel that violence is an appropriate and justified way to defend or exact their ideology. Shakir's statement "we were born in genocide" gets at this, but his point was lost on Johnson. What he is saying is that since our country was founded on violence that people justified as "right" (slavery and american apartheid i.e segregation) and violence was central to America's economic and political expansion into Native American territory, Latin America and now (many people feel) the Middle East, a historical precedent has been set that legitimates violent responses to these actions…which in turn legitimates violent responses to the violent responses…which is presumably "in defense" of a nation that was founded in violence that people have forgotten about or trivialize. But it is precisely this violence that many Americans pretend never happened or wasn't that big of a deal that extremists use to justify their violence. From this view, you can see how violence becomes a vicious cycle and why many people believe it is an inevitable result of a country that was founded on and perpetuated through violence.
I get it. The Major was influenced to do his dastardly deed by his hatred of guns (inspired by his jihadist Islamic belief system)? Oh wait, a person in the military does not have access to guns. He does? Er, ah … What is this nincompoop blathering about? He won't convince many other than himself and extreme leftists, who don't need "convincing."
The Major was motivated by his Islamic faith. He was not a renegade since his allegiance and true devotion was and is to Islam. Unfortunately, this enemy of civilization and civilized values was influenced by a primitive belief system that mandates that he do acts in its behalf that are antithetical to those among whom he sought to live. Since he could no longer contain himself, he acted based on advice from Islamic clerics.
The Major is not at fault. It is we who need to tighten our defenses and not allow these moles to penetrate our society to do their antagonistic deeds. The Major was quite forthright in declaring his allegiance. We chose to ignore his statements. We are at fault. The Major is a true servant of Allah and a noble Islamic believer albeit an enemy of civilized peoples in the civilized world. The Islamic Major acted consistent to and in pursuit of his principles requiring subjugation of non-Islamics. It is our obligation as a rational society to expedite the Majors' transition into Paradise, where his now impaired body will regain its abilities and he can service the 72 houris, who will be provided to him. Insh'allah.
Since I am a compassionate person, I hope for the sake of the Major, he can maintain his delusions concerning the hereafter to comfort him until he is executed and removed from the land of the living. After all, civilization is Eros worshiping, valuing life, while Islamic believers worship Thanatos, death, as exemplified by their embrace of suicide as they engage in murder of their victims, non-Islamics.
What "race" is that?
My head is splitting after listening to that pig vomit! The idiot regressives align themselves with the very people who'd just as soon carve off their heads and, by doing so, may one day face the fruit of their folly.
دار الحرب — this is what motivates the likes of Hassan. If he didn't have a gun he would use something else.
Browncoat, you simply fail to realize that what us poor, misguided kaffirs don't understand.
Most of what we mistake for violence is nothing of the sort. By definition, what happens to people who are either unbelievers or apostate Moslems cannot be violence. Violence can only happen to the true Moslems.
("Oozing lies from every pore, he oils his way through the board.")
Charles. One word of advice. Transfer!
standing by ur post , doesn't make it right!! we didn't ask him to speak at the function. he's has to b somebody important, or other people thinks he's important for him to speak at the function.
Done. Molon Lave.
Imam Zaid Shakir read the United States Constitution, if you don't agree with what it says, I sugesst you find somwhere else to live.
Well put!
I love my Ruger mini-14. I love my Sig Sauer. I love my LCP. I love my .357 (but I can only shoot .38 thru it, .357 are big-boy bullets). I love my Taurus 5-shot. And I love my brand new H&K .40 (same round as the Sig Sauer so that's convenient. I like my 12 guage.
The can have our bullets, but not our guns.
Note the "qualifiers" used by him. Over 300 years…"Christian"… meanwhile he totally ignores what has occurred with Islam trying to eliminate Israel for the past 60 years. What really terrifies him is the thought of Americans being armed and able to protect themselves, which BTW, the military personnel killed by Major Hasan, were denied. They are not allowed to have any weapons, unless issued and authorized to carry, on a federal installation. Perfect example of what occurs when people are denied the right to keep and bear arms. Like cattle led to slaughter which is what he wants, Americans led to slaughter by the Islamic terrorists.
The United States Constitution, Amendment 2
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Our enemies have always understood that to overcome the armed citizenry of the United States is impossible. They must first disarm American citizens. They cannot do it by force so the only hope they have is to convince Americans to disarm themselves. Read below the historical facts regarding unarmed citizenry.
Any person, group or politician advocating gun control are subverting the Constitution and they should immediately be branded as a TRAITOR!
They are NOT concerned about your safety. They ONLY desire to render you and yours helpless and SUBJECT TO THEIR WILL BY FORCE!
Another Gun Control Proponent
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H&K just came out with a .40 (same round as our Sig Sauer P229). Great balance! We just fell in love with it the minute we picked it up. Have only had it in our possession for 4 days now. Once all this snow melts, we're going to go shoot it. I'd itching to try out the Sig Sauer and the H&K side by side.
If You Have any Doubt About the Results of Gun Control…
The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929.
From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Turkey established gun control in 1911.
From 1915 to 1917, over 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938.
From 1939 to 1945, a total of over 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935.
From 1948 to 1952, over 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
From 1964 to 1981, about 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Pinchy!!! That's funny!!!
the real ROE, eliminate the threat……..politics don't work on the battlefield
Every "enlightend" person in the U.S. knows for a fact that it is the Radical Mosques, housing radical clerics who are getting these young fools to attack us.
Don't go too far you Clerics, and you know who you are. AMERICANS will only put up with you for so long.
This is not France or Denmark.
We put Charles Manson in prison for life far less than what your Jihadist have done to us thus far.
Show me an Islamist in America who is for gun control and I'll show you the next potential underwear bomber.
Muslims in the west are committed to the stealth jihad, and notice, their message always remain the same — "this ain't no jihad".
Hardly an "idiot." He is a deceitful, calculating, conniving, dangerous individual. He "religion" allows for the purposeful deflection and lies he is spewing in order further Islam. American's would never accept its presence, just as we rejected communism and Nazism, if they were aware of the whole truth, so people like Shakir must make it some way palatable to the populace by lying about its true nature.
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