The Real ClimateGate: Who’s Stupid, Hu’s Not
by Christopher C. HornerSo, China went big into windmill and solar panel production, causing the media and other liberals to breathlessly swoon over this further evidence of the wisdom of us mandating the things even though all it proves is that China is not dumb.

Rich countries say all weather is now their fault and vow to spend billions on uneconomic, inefficient and intermittent energy sources regardless of their merits or performance as penance and to show their seriousness of purpose in feeling really, really bad about the whole thing they alone talked themselves into. China volunteers to make the machines for us because, without absurd “green” policies of the sort causing energy prices to rise so high that seniors burn books to stay warm — in fact, China rejects the Kyoto agenda precisely because it has sworn off of that sort of poverty and knows what would keep them there — they can do it more cheaply.
And then they go to Copenhagen and hold us up for billions in new, “climate aid”, with more than a whiff of reparations about it because, after all, our government aided and abetted that line of argument.
So please don’t be surprised by China’s reaction when confronted, like the rest of our hemisphere, by yet another severe winter of the sort RFK Jr. and others swore were a thing of the past thanks to Man-made global warming. That reaction is to claim that the severe winter is instead further evidence of the same phenomenon that, erm, supposedly made such things extinct. Because to not say so might threaten the billions in “climate aid” and windmill sales.
It just might work. Because, you know, we’re like that now, willing to believe everything that happens is further evidence of a theory that nothing can disprove or even cause a rethink (“faith”, anyone?). And we have useful idiots willing to also say anything to aid in the cause.
This is how countries can make themselves look so incredibly simple to the world while laboring to appear so sophisticated.






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As to global warming it's heads I win , tails you lose. Now please excuse me while I thaw out my frozen pipes.
I've been eagery awaiting the return of global warming for the last four days, so we could get back above the freezing point. Or just think, if these are the temperatures with global warming, think how cold we would be without it?
Meanwhile, the entire northern hemisphere is in the death grip of runaway Gore Effect.
Is it true that the Chinese delegation in Copenhagen wore T-shirts with silk screened arrows pointing to the left that said, 'I'm with stupid'. Clever those Chinese capitalizing on 'climate guilt hysteria'.
Anyone in the Wisconsin area want to help me scrape a few inches of rock solid global warming off of my driveway?
no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American consumer/voter.
I just wish that if these people wanted to commit suicide by BS, they wouldn't take the country with them.
Okay we all agree that oil and coal are 20th century energy producing sources and that wind and solar have the potential of being the 21st century energy sources.
My question is this:
If the efficiency of solar and wind energy production were tripled in the foreseeable future, how many solar panels (area) or wind mills would be required to provide just 20% of the energy we now (rightfully) consume ?
This Global Warming thingey is sure something.
I'm freezing my ass of at 20 below zero with three feet of snow.
Algore the Blizzard strikes again…………..!
The Chicomms are semi commies……………..The Democrats are semi commies. The Chicomms killed 50 60 million who didn't go along. Obamie is thinking hard about what to do with the Dittoheads. Worried yet?
Church of Anthropomorphic Catastrophic Apocalypse – CACA
Whatever it is you do not like about today blame it on Al Gores CACA, so much for the seperation of church and state theory that the left love to tout,
Get wit da program y'all.
Global Warming is now Climate Change – they have to keep the farce alive somehow.
So every time it's not 69 degrees somewhere it's an aberration caused by man.
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When Al Gore is heating his mud hut by lighting his own methane expulsions, we'll talk……….until then, to Hades with all the Marxist greenies and their imbecile dupes.
Has anyone else noticed that the environmental con-artist have changed their slogan from Global Warming to Climate Change. This way when their warming "science" is debunked and the environment actually cools, they can say that it's the cooling that is now mans fault. It doesn't matter if the temps go up or down, they will find ways to take tax dollars and "study" mans involvement in global environmental changes. What they don't seem to realize is that this big world we live on has done it's own thing, environmentally, longer than man has been around. It will continue to warm and cool despite anything we do or "study". It's all a big con game!
You and I were thinking along the same lines. See comment below.
We have six to eight inches of Global Warming headed our way tomorrow, with ten degree temperatures.
As various international climate scientists, including IPCC authors have been pointing out for many months, we are 10 years into the 30 year cooling phase of a 60 year cycle. It will continue to get cooler for 20 years before warming up for 30 years, just like the two prior 60 year cycles. This is all dependent on two sunspot cycles and various oceanic currents.
Once upon a time, Vladimir Ilich Lenin supposedly said : “The capitalists are so hungry for profits that they will sell us the rope to hang them with.” (That's a paraphrase of the actual quote, but close enough …)
The Chinese may be Communists, but when it comes to their own economic well-being, they will be happy to sell the guilt-ridden Western round-eyes as many solar panels and windmill parts as they can, and laugh all the way to the bank …
By 1999 we will be completely out of oil!
Hell, I'd start to be persuaded if the Goracle sold his multimillion dollar waterfront vacation pad.
Of course China did this to sell the crap windmills to the lefties. In addition China started building nuclear power plants, coal to liquids refineries(Fischer-Trposche) and drilling for oil the world over. They even contracted with Canada for oil sands oil, because we didn't want it.
The windmills are 'for show' window dressing. China is building coal fired plants at about one a week for usage.
Meanwhile, England is rapidly running out of heating fuel. We are trying our level best to emulate England.
Have you noticed how our so-called president reminds you of how your two year old acts when told he can't do that?
I knew China was somehow involved in this ClimateFake thing. They want to be the mass producers of "alternative" energies. Got it.
Testing..
It was just in 2008 and both parties were touting global warming. It was a lie then, but the parties were seeing money and just played along. This is like a democrat jumping to the republican party, it just another game to the parties.
"Church of Anthropomorphic Catastrophic Apocalypse – CACA "
I love it!
Actually KC they have again changed it to "Climate Instability"
You see there's a blizzard BECAUSE there's global warming. If you can't understand that, I have this video for you to see… Meanwhile, would you like to buy a carnation?
Librals don't know anything about science or religion. They think they are god and then don't believe in god and say everything is mans falt and then say man can fix it. Then the science is settled when science is usually never settled. Even Einstein's Theory is questioned every once in a while.
I think the Founding Fathers were pretty smart, but they couldn't have predicted that a religious cult would take the form of Global Warming.
Yes.
You are correct.
By 2002, we will be completely out of coal.
By 2009 we will be out of wind, and by 2010 we will run out of solar.
Aren't those scientific projections prophetic………………..?
The skyline in West Texas is littered with windmills there must be hundreds of them and you can see them from the air.
the report button is to the RIGHT. and please wear it out.
Thank Boone Pickens, and GE for that.
It was nothing but a tax credit game……………..
So, China went big into windmill and solar panel production. Two methods of renewable energy creation. If the USA doesn't want to compete with these technologies, fine. Just wait until micro generation becomes big news…
all the birds that have to die for that picture !!! Oh the hummanity !!!
Let us stop arguing with the Feminine Voiced Tubba Gump Worshiping Climate Myth Believers. Let us play their game. Those on the left argue that there must be separation of church and state. Don't argue with them and tell them that "separation of church and state" was never written in the Constitution, only in the writings of Thomas Jefferson's letters later to be misused by our Supreme Court, but I digress. Let us agree with them that there must be separation of church and state. You win Tubba Gump Lefty Liberal Worshipers. And as our country demands equal treatment under the law for all, no public money can go to any religious institution, but you do get tax breaks. Nature worship is a religion. All of these are examples of recognized Nature Worshiping Religions in the history of man as nature worship: Animism, Sun Worship, Moon worship, Star worship, Fire worship, Tree worship, Animal worship, Sacred mountains, Sacred groves, Sacred herbs, Sacred tree, Holy well, Megalith, Standing stone, Stone circle, Thunder god, Totem, Sky deity, Water deity, Naturalistic pantheism, Naturalistic spirituality, Gaia philosophy, Folk religion, Pantheism, Shamanism, Earth religion, Neopaganism, Goddess worship, Natural religion, mana and now The Climate is Changing, Getting Warmer, Hotter, the Earth's Core is Several Million Degrees (But really 1,700, but who is counting), Man is Causing the Ice Caps to Melt and The Water will Rise (Even Though Ice Caps did not exist during the Jurassic Period and neither did man), the World is Going to End, Save the Planet and the Drowning Polar Bears Church. Because all of these are Nature Worshiping Religions, then by rules of law set forth by Supreme Court precedent in our country no money can go to any environmental/climate myth change corporations and objectives because they are now religious churches and their objectives are now their beliefs to be prosthelytized. Funding the science would be equivalent to funding the religion. You can’t separate the two. The United States would then be violating Constitutional Law (I know that this is really not an issue for Bug Eyed Botox Pelosi and Harry Hamster Brain Reid and our US Congress) as they are funding, backing and supporting a religion and its beliefs.
The following is a recent Federal Energy Information Administration's Annual Energy Outlook report concerning renewable sources of energy,
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article….
"No Substitute For Fossil Fuels"
"…While use of renewables will increase as well — by 81%, including hydropower — they will still be unable to unseat our dominant energy source. Fossil fuels' share of consumption will fall by only six percentage points, from 84% to 78% by 2035. Renewables will provide about 8%…"
Whoaaa….don't let science and truth get out. The radicals will go ape over this contradictory information and they will want billions more in money to study to see if it's true or not. This rational truth telling is dangerous stuff. Just ask the democrats!!
Need to prosecute Al Gore FOR LYING and misleading a whole country. And he needs to give back his oscar, that buffoon. Remember in the 80's him and Tipper went after Songwriters so don't be surprised when he wants you to give up your rights and make you a citizen of his brave new world!
Hey we're having a heat wave just East of StL….oh wait…I'm sitting under the heat vent that's been running for the past two hours.
Oh the irony. China, with it's CO2 and particulate belching plants making components for "green" power generation, wind and solar, for the West. Talk about a pair of big brass ones. There was a time when the US had that kind of gumption. I know it is still there somewhere, just gotta get rid of all these idiot statists to be able to find it.
End of year satellite temperatures show negative correlation between CO2 and temperatures for last 9 years. See chart here – http://www.c3headlines.com/2010/01/satellite-conf...
Time to blame something else? Horner's 'Hot Air'?
Now we know what happens when the CACA hits the FAN (Fathers of Anthropomorphic Nepotism)
AL GORE
Scott AB I presume?
The biggest joke of all………….global warming! Got to go, my house is covered in snow up to the windows. this global warming thing is really getting to me. By the way, we haven't heard to much out of Fat Boy, Al Gore lately either!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr5O1HsTVgA&fe...
Close to it. O'Fallon
Isn't it interesting how China capitalizes on opportunities but does not follow the philosophy. They eagerly build wind and solar equiptment but do not use them. They build several coal fired power plants each week and provide moderate diologue about global warming. They plan to drill off our S. E. coast but ask that the U. S. provide more funds to control the global warming threat. China will survive the enegy threat; will we?
I'm about 25 miles south of the Arch on 55
No, we don't all agree. I happen to think wind and solar will never amount to crap. In fact, there is probably more energy potential in crap. I have been an AGW/Climate change skeptic since 1992 because I am able to find plenty of info out there to dispel the myth/hoax. There is also plenty of info that wind and solar infrastructure are so energy and pollution intensive to create that it is highly questionable for return on investment.
I knew we were screwed about ten years ago when people figured out ways to profit from this scam. I have been around long enough to know that our air and water are cleaner than they were 30 years ago. Weather fluctuates, the "climate" has not changed. For some this is about power, others strictly money, and probably for most it is a sorry substitute for God or the strength of an independent mind.
Check out "Physics for Future Presidents" by Richard A. Muller. I don't agree with all of the conclusions, but it is a good source and easily understood.
Hey neighbor.
man caused the ice age by breathing
Extreme cold… also predicted by climate change theory.
Some info…
The brass monkeys are itching to get back outside.
Not only is China venturing bigtime into green technology — theu are starting to hoard the Rare Earth Elements of which they are the dominate provider. . .anyone want to bet how easy it will be for USA companies to get permits to structure mines and harvest theses natural elements in any kind of timely fashion??
China is on the march. . .USA is being beaten down to its' knees. . .is the how BO has planned to fundamentally change our country?
Every time you drive by a field full of windmills they are sitting idle. I guess they are producing too much energy.
You baggers love to quote Marx and Lenin. I've have learned much about communism on this list. So how did that work out for old Vladimir? Not so well as I recall. So poorly in fact that even leftest have stopped quoting him. But somehow you soldier on.
At least we agree on one thing. We should not let the Chicoms beat us to the punch in the new economy. Solar panels and electric car parts are the wave of the future and we should not seed this to rivals like we let the electronics manufacturing industry go to the Asians without much of a fight.
Not me. I know that the ones they want gone are the ones with the weaponry. Who'd help him? Certainly not the U.S. military.
Wind turbines are stupid!
They just do not work. Get educated.
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Poor mentally dysfunctional and factually overmatched Mikatollah. The Chinese do not wish to abide by this "new cap and trade economy" because the "old coal and oil economy" is much cheaper than alternative fuels. Period the end. It is money. It is always about money. Everything is about money. Now attack me with something completely unrelated, call me a bagger and never address any facts Mr. Predictable Mikatollah.
I want you for myself. I like the response pumkins.
That's climate change for you, never can tell what the weathers going to be. So stop using fosil fuels just in case. hahaha. I always said it was a joke that thses so called liberal environmentalist claims were ludicrist.
The thing is is not to take these greenies too seriously. I mean they're as serious as cancer about nothing all the time. That tells me they've had their hand out for along time now. Someone should cut it off.
Hey Dots… My thoughts were clear in my melon, but perhaps I failed to use my words to articulate.
The Chinese absolutely have no intention of moving away from coal in the near term, and they have no interest in accepting limits on the amount of carbon they pump into the atmosphere and it is a serious threat to our environment.
What I was trying to say is they want to sell the world green technology like solar turbines, electric car parts, windmill electric generators etc. Now they want to manufacture this stuff with power produced by coal fired plants. So I think we are talking about two separate issues here. We need to move away from fossil fuels to reduce the affects of warming. We also need to commit to competing in the green global economy of the future.
Good chart, I've added to my collection.
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Sorry, I got to lay salt on my driveway, it's slick with climate change. Besides, it's too cold. Around Green Bay it's like 15 degrees. Can't wait for the big meltdown!
yesterdays high temp here in northeast La. was roughly what the average low temp is supposed to be, gotta love that global warming.
And who is going to pay to take these windmills down after we don't need them. We will be called americia the Ugly
Right you are! Just follow the money!
And we're expecting snow and sleet in MS tomorrow nite!
As GK Chesterton said: "Those who believe in nothing will believe anything." This applies acutely to the Global Warming religious fanatics.
No one ever went broke overestimating the honor of "Law Enforcement". They will not bother to investigate the fraud exposed in Climategate. Instead, they will bow and scrape before their Masters and investigate who exposed the fraud. The stench is overwhelming.
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That's the only thing worth looking at out there! Past Abilene to El Paso nothing worth seeing!
Poor Mikatollah, still stuck in his Chris Matthews' Bubble of Cloward and Piven Hero Worshiping. Do you ever step outside of the Propaganda Factory of Myths and Lies? Have you read the Chinese Government Controlled Newspaper Media the Shanghai Daily or the Shanghai Times? The Chinese are FREAKEN terrified of our healthcare reform bill which will pass and the cap and trade bill which will pass. Do you know why? Because it is a bad investment. It is about money. It is always about money. Everything is about money. The Chinese leaders lectured Obama about the healthcare reform bill in November of 2009 and how it would cause the GDP curve to drastically bend up. That is bad for money. Fact #1: As a nation we are engaged in a very long war against terrorists. That costs a lot of money. Fact #2: The healthcare reform bill bends the GDP curve up. Fact #3: Cap and Trade will to quote President Obama, "….under my cap and trade program, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket…" Fact #3: You have to pay for wars, healthcare and cap and trade. That means taxes or breakout the printing presses. That means inflation/depression and less money for the US to spend on any products made in China, cheap lead filled toys, expensive and non efficient windmill generators or otherwise. Fact #4: The oldest rocks which have been found so far on the Earth date to about 4,000,000,000 BILLION years ago. Global warming is a myth. I love that the Church of Global Environment Change/Warming Reverend Scientists use 150 years of manipulated data to justify their claims. 150 years by itself is not a long enough time by rules of the scientific method to justify their Mythical claims about an earth whose age must be as old as the oldest rocks discovered. 150 divided by 4,000,000,000 = 0.0000000375. That is how small and insignificant of a time frame we are talking about as it relates to the Earth's Climate History. The ice caps did not exist during the Jurassic Period and they formed after hominins came into existence on Earth. The earth experienced global warming during the Medieval/Middle Ages when no carbon emitting machines existed. These are facts. Facts are pesky because they are the truth. It takes Alinskey/Cloward and Piven Propagandists like you from the Church of Tubba Gump's The Climate is Changing, Getting Warmer, Hotter, the Earth's Core is Several Million Degrees (But really 1,700, but who is counting), Man is Causing the Ice Caps to Melt and The Water will Rise (Even Though Ice Caps did not exist during the Jurassic Period and neither did man), Ignore the Medieval Warming Period when no carbon emitting machines existed, the World is Going to End, Save the Planet and the Drowning Polar Bears. If we do all of what the Progressive Democrat’s are suggesting in regards to healthcare reform, cap and trade coupled with the War on Terror Costs, the Chinese Government has told our government that they will not buy any more of our debt and they will divest themselves of US Bonds from their portfolio. That is bad. Remember, things (Healthcare Reform, Cap and Trade, The War on Terror) cost money. Nothing in life is free. It is about money. It is always about money. Everything is about money.
Egore's brother Algore has been in seclusion with all this record cold and snow. I'm sure he's drawing up a new battle plan for his religion. And his mass followers are drueling waiting for their messiah to speak and tell them what has caused this anomily. Praise Muhamed AL GORE!! Please speak to the masses with all your truth and wisdom and tell us what will happen next with our climate!!(sarcasm on).
You mean by sticking his lip out and pouting with a scoul on his face?
My former boss used to say "If you got your feelings hurt, maybe you shouldn't have had them out playing with them!"
If you have something to say that doesn't end in a question mark, this is a good place to do it.
Lots of thoughts here but difficult to read. It would be much easier to respond to if you would take each idea one at a time and develop it into a topic sentence. Then list your evidence that supports that idea. Since this is a blog there is no need to close out each idea, but at least hit the return key once or twice to let us know you have moved on to the next main point.
Thanks.
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Lots of thoughts here but difficult to read. It would be much easier to respond to if you would take each idea one at a time and develop it into a topic sentence. Then list your evidence that supports that idea. Since this is a blog there is no need to close out each idea, but at least hit the return key once or twice to let us know you have moved on to the next main point.
Thanks.
http://www2.actden.com/writ_den/tips/paragrap/ind...
You may be new to the discussion, but "climate change" has been the universally accepted term for global warming for sometime now. In fact, to coordinate the research effort, the UN created the IPCC over 20 years ago.
IPCC – Intergovernment Panel on Climate Change
The term "global warming" is a media creation, but more recently used by climate change deniers like yourself to confuse the public every time it gets cold in the winter.
The northern hemisphere is in the grips of winter. The southern hemisphere is experiencing summer. Climate change theory doesn't change the tilt of the earth's axis or its orbital path around the sun. But it does predict weather extremes within each season due to AGW.
This is typical and predictable behavior from the mentally dysfunctional, factually ignorant and incompetent Progressive debater like Mikatollah. You have now become the Little Old Lady Grammar Police. Facts don't matter, it is grammatical style that counts. I got it! I love that you and your fellow Progressives agree with Wonderbrain "Image is Everything" Andre Aggassi. Facts and the truth are sticky and addressing them does not move forward your Progressive agenda, and so you ignore them and instead focus on image/style and use ad hominem attacks such as "tea bagger."
Here are the facts in short bullet points:
Fact #1 – The Chinese leaders lectured Obama about the healthcare reform bill, in November of 2009, and how it would cause the GDP curve to drastically bend up. That is bad for money.
Fact #2 – As a nation we are engaged in a very long war against terrorists. That costs a lot of money.
Fact #3 – The healthcare reform bill bends the GDP curve up.
Fact #4 – Cap and Trade will to quote President Obama, "….under my cap and trade program, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket…"
Fact #5 – You have to pay for wars, healthcare and cap and trade.
Fact #6 – That means taxes or breakout the printing presses.
Fact #7 – That means inflation/depression and less money for the US to spend on any products made in China, cheap lead filled toys, expensive and non efficient windmill generators or otherwise.
Fact #8 – The oldest rocks which have been found so far on the Earth date to about 4,000,000,000 BILLION years ago.
Fact #9 – Nature Worship is a recognized religion with many different forms.
Fact #10- Global warming is a Nature Worshiping Religious Propagated Myth.
Fact #11 – 150 years of manipulated data used to to justify Nature Worshiping Religious Reverend Scientists' claims.
Fact #12 – 150 years by itself is not a long enough time by rules of the scientific method to justify their Religious Prosthelytizing Mythical claims about an earth whose age must be as old as the oldest rocks discovered that is 4,000,000,000 years old.
Fact #13 – 150 divided by 4,000,000,000 = 0.0000000375. That is how small and insignificant of a time frame we are talking about as it relates to the Earth's Climate History.
Fact #14 – The ice caps did not exist during the Jurassic Period 200,000,000 years ago and they formed after hominins came into existence on Earth.
Fact #15 – The earth experienced global warming during the Medieval/Middle Ages when no carbon emitting machines existed.
These are facts. I have only listed 15. That is not an astronomical number for you or others of your ilk to address, but you won't. The reason why you won't address these 15 facts is because they are pesky because they are the truth. Case Closed. Now go ahead, be the little Old Spinster One Room School Teacher and criticize my grammatical presentation (Just a thought Little Old Lady Mikatollah Grammar Police, but do Hemmingway, Faulkner or Cormac McCarthy follow the conventional rules of grammar in their brilliant writing? Just saying.) because "image is everything" and facts and truths are nothing to you and your Progressive friends. Go ahead call me names. Tea bagger is your favorite. Ignore all of these facts and truths, because it is the predictable and only thing that you do well.
Small changes can have huge cumulative affect over time. If we commit to switching to new technologies now and stop building coal fired plants we will have changed the face of energy production in 50 years. But even then, the carbon we burn today will still be in the atmosphere changing our climate.
I don't know why anyone in the west believes anything that the Chinese Government people say that they will do. It's all a joke. But there are countless articles saying, "Look how the Chinese are doing it. They are smart." They aren't doing anything that is not in their best interest. Naturally.
A little better. Your facts are a mixture of half truths, twisted logic and distortions, but easier to read.
I saw a bumper sticker once that sums up your position: "God said it, I believe it, and that settles it"!
We know that religion doesn't belong in science class.
You can't have it both ways… either we think we are god, or we don't believe in god. Pick one.
Science is never settled. That is a right wing talking point. What is settled is the question of whether or not Anthropogenic Global Warming is causing the climate to heat up. It is.
The important question now is, what are we going to do about it…
Trudat my brother..
The World is experiemcing one of the harshest winters in the last century and a half. This event is part of Global Warming Theory, really?
Well here is something to chew on for all you global cooling deniers out there. Real scientists will tell you, by far the largest factor in the earths temperature is the Sun. For all the IPCC worshippers that would be that big bright thing in the sky.
The Chinese are way ahead of you. Microgeneration components are one of their targeted industry goals.
Last I checked, separation of church and state was the law of the land. Otherwise we would be teaching the story in Genesis in science class. Makes little difference now how the separation laws evolved, only that you still don't get to teach religion to kids who are trying to learn the scientific method.
Paragraphs Dot… learn it… live it… love it.
Even if I were to accept your premise, lying is not a crime. If it were there would be a lot of jailbirds on this list.
Then there is the whole freedom of speech thing. Private citizen Gore enjoys the same Constitutional guarantees that you and do… not to have government prevent us from speaking our minds.
Tipper's campaign in the 80s was to label speech, not prevent it. Just as the warning labels on cigarette packs don't prevent you from lighting up.
Sorry about all that snow.
This is huge! Someone should alert the science community about this. It could change everything.
If only we could have a communist dictator instead of a democratically elected government… then we would be just a smart as the Chicoms.
We do it too. Come check out all the helium we have stashed in the Texas panhandle.
We need to be wary of China because of all those Chinamen. But their form of government is an anchor tied to their waist… sort of like living in a permanent recession. If they ever begin to promote the free exchange of ideas then you need to start to worry. They are far more likely to suffer the fate of the former Soviet Union than surpass the U.S. in economic output. You can only double your productivity so many times until you run up against natural limits of resources and infrastructure.
They are here and generating electricity as we speak. They give us an unlimited source of economic, pollution free energy and are majestic to watch (in my opinion). They also create good jobs.
I hope your ugly rhetoric was a metaphor for defeating us in the arena of ideas. If so, you are losing badly. And judging from the anger and fear on this list, you know it.
You have just described the difference for us between weather and climate. Remember that while you are gathering logs for heat, our friends down under are experiencing summer.
It has to do with the tilt of the earth on its axis. You should read up on it, it's in all the science books. Oh sorry… I meant: God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years
Yeah, and take down those power lines too. They are unpleasant to look at…
What, suddenly righty is worried about environmental toxins? Only when they conflict with your world view. Left up to you people we would still be putting lead in our gasoline and putting out fires on the Ohio River.
We should do the same. And it is in our best interest to stop burning fossil fuels to limit our dependence on foreign oil and curb the affects of AGW.
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