Manipulating Climate Change: Warming to RICO?
by Christopher C. Horner
For some time. several individuals have asked why we don’t just initiate suit against the obviously dishonest tactics and claims by the global warming industry under the Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Organization Act (RICO). This law commissions “private attorneys general” to pursue violations on their own, in essence as proxies for the state.
I have explained with intermittent impatience that just serially lying or exaggerating to deceive are not on their face RICO “predicate” offenses. There must be three instances of a certain type of enumerated behavior over ten years to constitute a pattern in violation of RICO.
I have received an email from someone who has much appropriate training and experience and which causes me to revisit the issue. He writes,
“Well, now it really does look like a massive conspiracy to defraud the government.
When I was in law school, one of my profs noted dryly that once in a while the Massachusetts Attorney General would sternly announce ‘we are going to investigate this matter of ____,’ and the sky of Boston would blacken with the smoke of burning documents.
I bet there was a blip in electricity use this morning from emails being deleted by the climate change community.”
Well, it is certainly true that, on its face this prospect has to be taken seriously barring revelation that words do not actually mean what they appear, in full context of the issue and the email, to mean (which so far has been the principal substantive defense). Fraud is a RICO predicate offense. If what we are seeing unfold is evidence of fraud, a RICO complaint is a possibility, along with what the “discovery” process would reveal. The email and data authors (and massagers, playing “tricks” with the data to “hide the decline” in temperatures) do appear to be true believers in their cause, and often in their data, neither of which is dispositive. They also are candid in ways triggering tortuous arguments explaining how those words don’t really mean what they say. The defenders say the literal readings – that’s plural, not a one-off remark – represent “sinister interpretations” (New York Times), and the implausible is actually the appropriate reading.
For example, we’re now, for the first time, told that calling something the researchers did with data a “trick” to “hide the decline” in temperatures is actually very typical application of common lingo about scientific methods purporting to represent findings. This is the first I have encountered in this context a benign meaning for that. This defense might have currency had not the actions in question already been exposed by private investigations and being, in fact, a “trick” “hiding the decline” in temperatures.
The U.S. taxpayer has much exposure here in the joint projects and collaborations which operated in reliance upon what the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit was doing, on the data CRU have been denying access to and recently claiming simply, if again implausibly, to have lost. As well as on the taxpayer-funded IPCC process, and the peer-review process addressed in these emails as having been corrupted with a particular outcome in mind. Also, there are U.S. taxpayer-funded offices and individuals involved in the machinations addressed in the emails, and in the emails themselves.
The plain reading of what has been revealed so far, if the documents are indeed authentic as a blanket admission yesterday seemed to make clear, does give the appearance of a conspiracy to defraud, by parties working in taxpayer funded agencies collaborating on ways to misrepresent material on which an awful lot of taxpayer money rides. In fact, their centers and careers and reputations ride on there being a “global warming” crisis, or at least there being some semblance of acceptance thereof.
I am not yet drawing conclusions on this, but all of the above is food for thought. I will look into this further when I’m back from travel and able to give it some attention, as will some colleagues. We also must confront the truth hinted at by the jibe about the massive email deleting that has surely taken place in the past 72 hours. The ability to permanently delete such material, and codes and other files, is not something I am at all expert in, but an issue on which the viability of pursuing any such actions would hinge. So, hopefully more later.





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Holder will cover for them, just like he's doing with ACORN! After all, he was the force behind pardoning Clinton's buddy Marxc Rich, so what do you expect. The most crooked and corrupt administration EVER in American history.
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I know the email hack news is devastating to the global warming movement because CNN isn't touching the story.
The left is also complaining about the breach of security, something they thought was cool when Sarah Palin's email account was hacked.
RICO ??? I love it!
Just like ACORN
Now the Michael Manns of Penn State can't shake down companies for climate research money. Now the school he works at part time won't get the grants and donations. This also is a minor win for the laws pertaining to freedon of information. The CRU had stonewalled for years data they had on file and not attached it to articles written in journals. Now with all these scientists that have a political agenda, they are illegally deleting e-mails.
This is now a bad time for green related start ups.
I was switching public tv chanels the other day-Al Gore/Bore was on. Listened to for 1 minute-couldn’t handle the “shit spewing” from his trap. What a buffoon!
From the looks of 'Fat Al's' triple chins, makes me wonder exactly what his contribution is???? This entire government is a sham and from the comments I see on other sites world wide, WE are not the only ones who think so!!
"Holder will cover for them, just like he's doing with ACORN! "
The principals in this case are in Britain, not the US, and it's the British FOIA they were clearly violating. The Labour government there will be tossed out in a few months: let's hope new PM Dave Cameron has balls even a fraction the size of Maggie's and takes down this con.
If this does not further prove that goverment largesse is bad for the American economy, I don't know what does. Not an ounce of it is based on common-sense fiscal responsibility; and why should it be? Most of these people have never owned a SUCCESSFUL business (outside of the "CON" game!); and to add salt to THAT wound, their views are anti-capitalist / pro-marxist! They are using the disaster created by IRRESPONSIBLE /CORRUPT/GREEDY "thugs/mafia-types" that took advantage of LOOPHOLES in our system of capitalism. So now? Well, apparently their decision has been ENLARGE GOVERNMENT and RAISE TAXES and DESTROY SMALL BUSINESS … Instead of CLOSING those loopholes! WHAT MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID OR EVIDENCED!
The line in the sand is drawn:
Those of us who pay the MAJORITY of the taxes are NOT the enemy.
Much to the contrary, can be the INSPIRATION to all on how to take advantage of the AMAZING opportunity this great country has to offer … and do it with HONESTY, GOOD-GODLY CHARACTER and INTEGRITY! And by the way, the most CHARITABLE HEARTS in this country! (putting time, energy and dollars where the heart is!)
Let's start shining the light on those who are DOING IT RIGHT AND BEING BLESSED!
STOP THE PROPAGANDA MACHINE!
STOP "PLAYING POLITICS" … AAARRRGGG!
Stay informed!
Become engaged!
WAKE UP AMERICA!
STOP GOREBULL WARNINGS
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"Most of these people have never owned a SUCCESSFUL business"
Most of the politicians and/or bureaucrats in Washington today couldn't qualify to run a lemonade stand, IMO
Al Bore wakes up in the morning and thinks what do i have to do today…just save the planet, thats all
If these emails are valid, this may be the biggest story ever! The scam is exposed. Now lets see what the press does with it.
This freak makes me want to puke. What a liar. Just like all the others looking to make a buck from his lies. I hope his latest book flops. How dumb can people be to believe this wanna be man.
As we know, Global Warming is just a scam to scare us into surrendering our freedoms and rights. Eventually the truth will come out about it and they'll have to invent a new scam. Alien invasion? Major pandemic of some kind?
The main stream will bury it. Lucky for us there are other sources of information out there like this.
It looks like these hackers have not only done a good turn for American taxpayers but for taxpayers everywhere.Now let's see how Barak Obama,Eric Holder and the democrats try to spin this story.
How many regulatory mandates could be reversed by exposure of this fraud!!?? American law has been based on these fraudulent claims for decades!!!! How much money has been channeled to them through the veins of their elaborate scheming!!! They are drunk with the power their lies have gifted them with!!!! It's time to prosecute and incarcerate these thugs along with their friends in the political, information and judicial arenas who have covered for them, they are all guilty of Treason (In my opinion)!!!!!!
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It’s fun to be the counter culture again, sticking it to the man, more specifically Owlgore!
Great article detailing the original "hockey stick" scam. New article about this data release.
Is "Crap and Trap" officially dead in Congress, or will they push the "just in case" argument? Bad enough this administration has already wrecked my hip boots, looks like I will need chest-high waders before the hoped-for 2011 restoration of congressional sanity.
Thank you Mr. Horner. Can't tell you enough how outstanding are your contributions. (you know that)
What is best is that this is not just commentary. This is action. Movement. The scope of the new counter culture is expanding high and wide. Hitting back thrice as hard.
Why RICO hasn't been tested has been a lingering wonderment. And the lack of action by law enforcement in this country on so many fronts had me wondering if they were "in the bag" too.
Where's scott_z, the climate denier-denier? Won't they cover his overtime on weekends?
Al Gore, in all his puffed up ignorance, looks like a purile toad.
Stan,
I wonder if anyone told Owlgore that Spotted Owl tastes like chicken?
Methinks even Scotty has finally figured out you can't defend the indefensible.
Yeah, I think it is so funny that the AP had 11 people researching her book. No one wants to research the facts of Al Gore or Barry Obama.
I just started Sarah's book and am super impressed. So far a much better read than Obama's books.
I thought something was wrong when the people who studied reef growth were praising the decline of water temperatures for saving our reefs and then over to the NOAA site and everything but a handfull of areas were marked as the hottest year on record.
My wife does not know there are male cows because she has never heard the word Bull un extended. I bought into the coming Ice Age crap back in the 1970, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on Me.
Beware of Prophets seeking profit. – Dennis Miller
It looks like he may have a spotted owl stuck in his keester. You know when the wackos were killing the timber industry, they had a slogan, to paraphrase, “you don’t want us cutting down trees wipe your butt with a spotted owl.” Owlgore jotted that down for future reference as cool things to do.
If the taxpayers are paying for research that’s being manipulated it’s called FRAUD. It’s against the law. If what the Brits have done in these emails is any indication of what is going on in the U.S. we have big problems. Think of all the legislation over the past decade, the jobs lost, the billions spent… The entire green balloon needs to burst!
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell
Precisely; that's why you know these guys are paid to blog, because they're never hear outside of the workday hours…
Hey! Don't insult the toads!
I disagree. He wakes up thinking "How can I fleece the public today. Hey the global warning scam pays well." Unfortunately (I hope) this scam may ruin his fortunes. Oh the problems with making an honest living.
no, he gets up in the morning and thinks…where is my anti-psychotic medicine
I find myself hoping that this document release is following the Breitbart strategy of releasing enough that it would interest an honest mainstream media and then if they don't bite, release even more damning evidence.
Fraud: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sgtkey0811/412175122...
and the doughnuts…
Regarding the Ice Age scare in the 70's – isn't it interesting that proponents of that were also blaming it on human causation. It appears to me that their agenda is not to save the earth, but to use even the mildest concern and turn it into a full-blown planetary emergency for the purpose of furthering a different agenda – such as Socialism, Big Government, or perhaps even the formation of a One-World Government.
Well, if they could convince us that Aliens were headed to Earth bent on conquest – that might work for them.
you're giving him too much credit. he buys slip-ons because he never figured out shoelaces.
First, this is very much an American issue. James Hansen is a NASA employee, U.S. funds support CRU research, and U.S. funds support the UN IPCC.
Second, keep your powder dry folks. Remember, the US Supreme Court already decided that the EPA can regulate CO2 as a dangerous gas. The EPA is already regulating CO2 and another handfull of "Green House Gases" (GHGs), and requiring industry to start tracking emissions.
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/emissions/index….
By January, 2010, this will become official policy, nationwide, if the EPA stays on track with their sprint to regulate GHGs. Everybody, including EPA, has known the CRU was putting out questionable studies, backed by absent data. The EPA will push hard and fast to get ahead of this, is pushing hard and fast, because they knew in advance that the CRU fairy tale was going to collapse.
By this time, next year, the EPA will have created such a mess that it will take many years to untangle ourselves from it. I love the dream of going after the CRU people, and, perhaps Hansen, in court, but there will only be one near-term fix that I can envision that may rein in the EPA. Slash their budget to the bone, after the 2010 elections.
I honestly don't think anything can be done to slow down the EPA, much, with this Congress and this Administration. They need to face massive layoffs and budget cuts down to their very light bills, to eliminate their ability to pursue their GHG mission.
The same will need to be done to the US Fish and Wildlife Service, because what they have cooked up for us, coming soon, using the "Climate Change" nonsense and the Endangered Species Act, will only be stopped with an axe.
http://www.fws.gov/home/climatechange/pdf/CCDraftActionP...
Lots of good people working at both of these agencies, but the time is past for trying to reform them or be reasonable with them. They must be sliced down to the bone, then be forced to find ways to make themselves self-supporting, by actually helping taxpayers. These are not agencies populated by persons that were unaware of the problems in the data and conclusions associated with the Climate Change nonsense. They are agencies populated by people that knew they were using spurious information to advance a cause. As such, those that may lose their employment in the event of serious cutbacks should be able to find employment in their natural homes, within environmental activist organizations.
In my opinion.
yeah, leave my cute little amphibian amigos out of this. btw- while overall they may be somewhat pulchritudinally-challenged (altho beauty is in the eye of the beholder), next time you get the chance take a close look at their eyes. imho, toads have some of the most beautiful eyes in all of nature- like living jewels. entirely unlike algore's beady, shifty ones.
we have lots of 'em around here, and if it weren't for my dogs' innate inability to leave them alone, i'd wish we had more- they're good little bug eaters. they make dogs sick as hell, but i think one of mine is hooked on the buzz she gets from the psychedelic toad funk…
Great posts. I think the science of Global Warming has become infected with peer pressure, government money and politics. I don't trust most other scientific studies anymore either.
With all this information coming out, I fear that those who have a vested interest in Climate Change/Global Warming or whatever else their calling it these days, will push through the cap and trade bill as fast as possible. I shared my concerns with a friend who works at a nuclear power plant…his response- there is no use fighting against cap and trade- its a done deal. Is this true?
sarahb, please check that EPA link in my earlier post. Yes, it's a done deal. I once drafted a submission for Mike Flynn, on this issue, but things are moving along so fast that my material became dated before Mike could help me make it workable material. I'm a biologist, not a journalist. I'm trained to build to my point from a basis of facts, then get to the interesting part.
Once (per the SCotUS) GHGs became regulated as dangerous gases, we got the Cap. Trade is the sweetener to allow the now-regulated industries to afford to attempt to comply. We don't need to wait for Congress to enact a Cap and Trade Bill; we have already sent the industries to be regulated the real bill, in dollars; they are now to be required to estimate, record, and report their GHG emissions. The Supreme Court has already allowed the GHGs to be regulated as dangerous. That's existing policy and law.
Bingo! Algore isn't the only bureaucratic gasbag making out like the proverbial bandit. How many Congress critters were buying carbon credits. Obamao's friend was put in charge of the Chicago Carbon Exchange and was the only one authorized to sell carbon credits. Another one who would be raking it in. I can't believe there wouldn't have been a little sumpin' sumpin' for Obie.
Algore has been emitting a lot of the CO2 gas. To think they've been blaming it on some poor cows.
Al Gore and the EPA, the biggest jokes in our country, along with most of the Environmentalists!
How about some legal action against Al Gore for soliciting business in front of Congress in the name of "climate change"?
News to all about climate change; when God created the earth, he also created climate change.
Hmph. You'd think they'd have a weekend and/or night shift or something.
They are somewhere clinging in wet anticipation of the coming healthcare. Long endless lines like the DMV meandering for glorious hours of…
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands: one nation under God,indivisible, with liberty and justice for all……to all you corrupt politicians, God wrote a pray just for you, Psalm 109:8.
Al Gore is worst kind of Fraud & Charlatan, its a good thing he didnt know Acorn. People should shout him off the stage and tell him to go home. Theft by Deceit is a crime, its when you induce persons by lies or falsehoods to give you their money. If such a thing occured a 100 yrs ago you would meet justice at the end of a rope. He is so worried about the Polar Bears, someone should put him in a cage with them. Now, thats Entertainment !!
People we have to understand that Government will not investigate and will not reverse postion on AWG. The ONLY way to change this is to wholsale change the Government. Even then it will be difficult because the majority of rules and regulations are not done by ELECTED officials but by LIFELONG government employees. The inertia will be hard to overcome. Even if today the entire scientific communitty said that Man MAde Global Warming was all made up the head of steam already built up to go in the direction of total control will be allmost impossible to stop. A complete change of Government will be the only hope of stopping this.
read the IPCC and tell me, specifically, the points you have scientific issues with.
i find the loudest opponents of human caused climate change are the ones who are most ignorant of the science explaining the phenomenon, and the observed data to support it.
I'm sure when some one re works the numbers and shows what a fraud this is, Aliens will be next, oh, aliens from another planet. I know that it is not that clear these days.
I bought into the ice age stuff more the winter of 1977-1978. I think I was stuck in a ditch in Georgia with the road covered in ice freezing to death. So I was a believer. Now I know better. Our climate is a God thing, don't mess with it he (or she) will fix it to God's desired temperature. If you don't like it move south or north!
i disagree with you so i must be hired?
\\that is a new one.
OMG! Where did you find this picture? Albore looks like a bullfrog waiting to explode! If he loses weight, I bet his carbon emissions would drastically decrease!
He may have broken the RICO satute if they can prove the numbers were tampered with. But who in the government (eric holder, no caps for that guy) would try to enforce the law? This is BIG AL – Oscar winner and Nobel Prize winner! He is basically untouchable for this administration. They want it because then they control oall of our businesses.
media isn't reporting the story because there is nothing in the emails or data that is any way incriminating, or reflects poorly on their research, data, or methodologies.
i've read most of it today, when i wasn't working (had to put in some weekend hours)
Psalms 109:8 every waking hour!
how you liking the the index?
http://www.slate.com/id/2235917/
LOL
Al Gore is a charlatan!
No, it's just CNN not reporting on it. Even MSNBC and Huffington ran the story earlier today. I've read it as well as several other millions of folks. Funny our conclusion is different than yours.
"I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (i.e., from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. …"
"hide the decline. hide the decline. hide the decline. hide the decline. hide the decline. hide the decline"
Sort of difficult to defend that. No?
I like the definition of "purile" Cowboy because it so aptly applies to this species that is Gore. The good die young and the corrupt always get ahead. It's going to be a tough fight.
I hope he explodes and soon, because thats exactly what it looks like in the photo above.
I hate libruls.
MORE LIES. check out the truth:
http://topics.npr.org/quote/08oNdRA7Ju2EG
Phil Jones in discussing the presentation of temperature reconstructions stated that "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." The paper in question is the Mann, Bradley and Hughes (1998) Nature paper on the original multiproxy temperature reconstruction, and the 'trick' is just to plot the instrumental records along with reconstruction so that the context of the recent warming is clear.
The magnitude of this fraud is breathtaking. Designed to legally pillage megabucks and amass political tyranny. Used for personal and corporate gain, to intimidate nations into compliance with treaties such as Kyoto and Copenhagen, stripping national sovereignties in favor of global govt. Used for the unchecked greed of the UN and for the holy grail of bringing the US to her knees thru so-called reparations for unfettered use of energy. All very good reasons to severely limit govt funded science. Private industry will only invest precious resources in proven proprietary profitable technology. If global warming were real, it would be generating a booming industry without government threats. Obviously, the only industry that has developed has fed at government troughs. Govt grants and renewals occur thru politics not profits. It's why govt spending never drops, can only grow. Publish or perish. And the most famous hawkers for global warming? Gore and Immelt, living for govt money in billions. Remove the money and what happens to them? There's your proof. A truly inconvenient truth.
Scott Z or SYNTAXGAME are in complete denial! Both are paid bloggers-ignore their indoctrination. Why don’t you 2 get together and see if your indoctrination is the same? GET A CLUE-BOTH OF YOU-WE’RE ALL LAUGHING AT THE BULLSHIT YOU POST! You both are a waste of “time&energy.”
Let me repeat this "hide the decline"
They're scrambling to cover their asses and they're doing a piss poor job of doing it.
"intentionally trick and lie to you" That's the job of the Obama administration and man made global warming advocates. I can walk outside and confirm that there is no man made global warming going on now or in the past decade.
I take it that you have yet to be given the new lefty talking points about what was discovered and exposed by the hackers who hacked and then posted the notes and corespondance of the "GLOBAL WARMING" hoaxer "scientists".
Seriously, scottie boy, you really need to stop dxrinking that nasty KOOL-Aid !
let me repeat this. the "Trick" to "hide the decline" was to plot the instrumental records along with reconstruction so that the context of the recent warming is clear.
that was it. what problem do you have with that?
no. you are being fed quotes out of context by people who want YOU to spout THEIR talking points
http://topics.npr.org/quote/08oNdRA7Ju2EG
click on the "View quote in context" link. then get back to me. YOU are spouting talking points here. NOT me!
Nothing going on here that a good couple hundred defenestrations wouldn't solve.
And NO, cap-and-trade is not a done deal. It is actually DEAD for this year, and will not be exhumed in 2010, an election year. But as others have said, look to EPA to try to regulate their way to the same kind of results.
Yes and next you'll be telling us Al Gore's “hockey stick” graph was correct after all.
Save the wear and tear on your keyboard. You're not changing any minds here.
Well looks like Mr. Horner is not disappointing his energy industry bosses. What a simpering tool along with the other tools who worship this industry shill. Wow.
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No, it's not. You're using the same lame "oh poor martyred me, you call me that just because I disagree with you" act.
Get over yourself.
I remember 1977! – there was a huge blizzard in the North-East, from the coast all the way to Buffalo. I think Buffalo got it so bad that cars were literally buried on the highway. They even made a board game out of it. I had it, too – but it's been lost to the ravages of wear and time. Wish I kept it. It would probably bring in a good take on E-bay.
Just goes to show you – if you live long enough, you see the same hoaxes and myths perpetrated over and over but with new and creative labels.
Here's the 3 big ones I remember:
1) Ice age – 1970's
2) Y2K – 1999 (How many Billions of unnecessary dollars spent on bringing computers to "Y2K compliance")
3) Global Warming 1990's – Present.
And you're right. #4 will be either the threat of an Aliens (sorry, extraterrestrials or maybe an asteroid collision – somehow tied in to human causation.
What about the 25 million bucks worth of government grants awarded and spent? Isn’t it possible to argue that there’s fraud and conspiracy in tainting the grant-awarding process and then taking what should be ultimately government property (the “data”) and withholding or hiding at least some of it?
Data manipulation, manipulation of ‘peer review’ in serious scientific publications, career destruction of real scientists that follow their data faithfully. Welcome to the left’s utopia of scientific servitude. Even science has to bow down to the politically correct narrative! Scientists now fear results that don’t support the approved narrative, and apparently will alter results that don’t fit. That sound you hear is what is left of the integrity of the climate research scientific community being deleted on hardrives across the planet. Carbon footprint that! RICO NOW!
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Al Gore is lower than whale crap, an it lays on the bottom of the ocean
Al Gore is a shill for the UN and a traitor to America! Prosecute him for fraud over global warming and the RICO statue would be a good place to start! He's a lair and a thief! He's sold out America for a few million bucks which make hima traitor! Hunt him down and conficate every last piece of property and every last penny because its all part of the fruit of the posionious tree of corruption and crime! wake Up america! His guy is a snake oil salesman and he's selling a bill of goods! Read about what was found on the computers of the english global warming people. It exposes global warming fo exactly what it is! A lie designed to steal your money and your rights as Americans! stand up and shout this clown down! demand that he repay the donations he took to line his own pocket in the name of global warming! wake Up america!
Al Gore is bad news for America and has to be stopped. continually fax the SOb's offices. Continually call his offices! Picket where ever he appears! make his life a living hell. Picket his house and business! wake up america! there is no global warming only global thieft of your money and rights the UN! demand America leave the UN. Kick them out of New York! Out of our country! Stand up for America!
Y2K was great, I sold a nice little company making computers just before the bottom dropped out of computers.
On the Astoroids I do reflect on the old Carlin line, How do they call them Asteroids and not Hemroids? I love the old ones.
I think the next one will be related to the rainforest in the Amazon. The oil companies never were allowed to drill way up the amazon and with Brazil's new oil find (I guess they are no longer interested in the old joint venture deals that SEDCO, former governor of Texas's company that was bought by the French giant Schlumberger, had with them) finally will allow development off shore after 40 years with no spills and only a handful of accidents.
"Yes"
why do you have a problem with plotting the instrumental records along with reconstruction so that the context of the recent warming is clear?
please explain.
Cute but some one took a couple of hours off their life and failed to mention 2 chapters in Barry Obama's books dedicated to how nice it is to fly on private planes. What a shame, they didn't mention that Barry's father was just a horny guy screwing his way around the world.
The comment of the airplane become "Foreshadow" to his love of Air Force One. Unlike Palin's book, he never mentions his love for anything like she does her love for her family, her state and her God. Obama's book was a struggle of pretense where Palin's book is personal and feeling. Pretty much the difference between the two people.
So your link is barely cute where her book is really good. You may want to read it instead of just quoting the web. Oh, you don't want to give Palin her cut of the profits of the book. I gave Barry his cut twice and except for the above remarks find his rise to POTUS amazing. Scary in what he is ushering in but really very remarkable.
[...] (Christopher C. Horner) For some time. several individuals have asked why we don’t just initiate suit against the obviously dishonest tactics and claims by the global warming industry under the Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Organization Act (RICO). This law commissions “private attorneys general” to pursue violations on their own, in essence as proxies for the state. Read More… [...]
Try LLNL. Dr. Santer's email will be preserved on backup, and there is no way he can get rid of it all. LLNL should be the first target for getting confirmation emails.
Its very difficult to figure how the mess created so far will be untangled. While some claim many are paid shills for the 'oil industry', the real facts are, many simply do not buy into the story line because what we are told are the facts, are w/o any real supporting basis in fact. Maurice Strong, a Canadian socialist, long ago espoused the concept of global government using climate change as the tool to accomplish this.
The 'inadvertently' deleted emails, reminds me of the missing 18 minutes of tape from Nixon's office. The 'lost' records of temperatures, was the first sign the global warming movement was panicking. Someone realized the time to produce actual evidence of global warming was at hand. They realized if someone truly reviewed their assertions from a pure scientific viewpoint, it would not hold up. Add to this the very real fact that the planet has been cooling, and a host of additional exposures of vacuous evidence, and why those emails were deleted is suddenly completely understandable. They simply could not allow the truth of what they are up to, to be exposed to the public.
Gore's previous investments in cap & trade style organizations helped him increase his personal wealth from around $2 to $3 million in 2000, to well over $100 million today. Lets face it folks, Al Gore is simply not that terrific of a financial investor that he called his stock picks "that" correctly. Once American law 'forces' businesses to buy these bogus carbon credits, Gore's various investments in these companies will reward him w/ literally billions.
Lord Monckton used basic mathematics to show us why the CO2 scam, is really a scam. Mankind can reduce CO2 atmospheric levels by one to 1.5 trillion tons. It will take 30 to 33 years. "ALL" mankind must revert to stone aged life prior to the discovery of fire for 33 years. No fire at all for that time, & global atmospheric accumulation levels of CO2 will reduce by up to 1.5 trillion tons of CO2. Great huh?
Now, for all that effort, an, for the inevitable deaths of billions of human beings, along w/ the CO2 reductions, we would be able to reduce global temperatures also. Yep, lower CO2 levels & fewer humans.
We would reduce global temperatures by……….. 'one' degree Fahrenheit.
Personally, I think if the people of the world were told of this & the price they would have to pay to accomplish this, they would start to call for the heads of any politician who was pushing global warming – climate change. The 'price' is not only far too high to pay, the very concept is despicable. In addition, the alarmist community has yet to actually prove CO2 is a real "pollutant." In fact, most understand w/o it, the entire planet would die.
The scam is unraveling & only politicians, those who stand to gain financially, and those seeking global governance so they can attain power along with wealth, continue to push this, along with those who have bought into the scam. Those who assert if you deny global warming you hate the planet. They still think if you do not agree with them, w/o question, you are anti-environment. They need to learn we all need & want a clean environment, a clean earth. This issue does not belong to them exclusively. Just because we disagree, it does not mean all we say is wrong nor does it mean all they say is true.
The problem is, we have discovered much of the hype used to sell this meme, is totally fabricated. From the 'hockey stick' to the lost emails, to the hacked hard drive data exposing communications calling on participants to hide or destroy those communications that reveal their plans to continue to lie about the entire issue to the public & to government officials not already on their side.
Government bureaucracy infiltrated by 'special interest groups' (whose motivations & influence levels are highly suspicious), must be countered with an effort to reduce the size & influence of the government entities that currently exercise far too much power. We must also find ways to have criminal investigations done, but not influenced by current administrations who work to protect their own, while the American people pay for such nefarious activities. W/o unbiased investigations, all sorts of criminal activities will go along anabated & perhaps for decades to come.
Its clean up time. Lets push for those who want America to survive & prosper!
i'm afraid that ALGORE, an ALGORIAN from the planet HOTAIR, is guilty of way more than just fear mongering– he is FEAR PIMPING! He is both trying to scare everyone into believe the garbage that we the people are destroying the planet Earth, and then he turns right around and says he has the solution, for a nominal fee (carbon credits)– it's the most classic example of creating the problem out of thin air, then magically finding the solution–
Because when I google "plotting the instrumental records along with reconstruction so that the context of the recent warming is clear"
it's clearly the mantra taken up by the left to defend the email dialog.
Everyone leftwing blogger is using the exact phrase verbatim without knowing what the hell it means. Useless if the instrumental records are not included. Useless if
their definition of "reconstruction" can change on the fly.
PROVE IT!
The new info, from the hacked GLOBAL WARMING HOAXERS, proves that this entire thing is the hoax it is !
"it's clearly the mantra taken up by the left"
or, it's just the pure and simple truth.
you don't know enough about climate change either way, because you have done no independent research and defer only to right wing blogs to tell you what you should think.or google searches. but you discount the validity out of hand when the source is anyone who may disagree with your political ideology.
that's a shame.
"proves that this entire thing is the hoax it is ! "
how exactly?
i think it hilarious you are having such a field day with these emails.
next stop: debunking the science of tens of thousands of other researchers, from hundreds of different institutions and universities, and dozens of different countries who independently came to the same conclusions.
here is a point by point debunking of most of the,emails in this one particular case, anyway.
Remember everyone, this is an old page. Quotes were last updated in 2001! Don't forget to check out my Not Gore Quotes page also.
Gore held out for prime time media coverage in order to cast his vote in favor of the Gulf War. The media tells a different version too.
Thanks Mr. Roddy.) And hey! Now this SAME LIST is being passed around as G.W. Bush quotes! argh.
Before sending e-mail accusing me of trying to distort what Gore says, please notice my Not Gore Quotespage. AND WOULD PEOPLE PLEASE STOP PASSING AROUND THAT LIST OF MOSTLY QUAYLE QUOTES AND ATTRIBUTING THEM TO GORE?! (details on this are also on my Not Gore Quotes page). In fact, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ran an article about these bogus quotes! (and I'm even quoted in it
Mammogram…sonogram…honey graham…
At an event in Las Vegas on Monday, 09/1800, Gore declared potential breast cancer victims faced "a long waiting line before they could get a biopsy or, uh, or a uh, another kind of, what am I looking for, a sonogram or…." People in the crowd shouted "mammogram."
(Source: Fox News 09/18/00; MSNBC 09/21/00 – The News with Brian Williams)
"Had that happened to Bush the news media would have used it to further the theme that the Texas Governor has a troubled relationship with the English language." – Brian Williams 09/21/00
Equal…if not more so?
"When my sister and I were growing up," Mr. Gore told a small audience made up mostly of women, "there was never any doubt in ourminds that men and women were equal, if not more so."
(Source: NY Times, 08/12/00)
Equal – if not more so? More so what? More "equal"? Who is more so? If two things are equal, what is the "more so" for?
Gore didn't reverse John 3:16, but he DID reverse Matthew 6:21
During the second debate, while discussing the environment, Gore said: "And I'm a grandfather now. I want to be able to tell my grandson, when I'm in my later years, that I didn't turn away from the evidence that showed that we were doing some serious harm. In my faith tradition, it is written in the book of Matthew, 'Where your heart is, there's your treasure also.' And I believe that we ought to recognize the value to our children and grandchildren of taking steps that preserve the environment in a way that's good for them."
Gore got the quote from Matthew 6:21 backwards. Matthew 6:21 states: "For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." This follows verses 19 and 20 which say: "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal; but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal."
This quote has nothing to do with the environment; it has to do with devotion to salvation The Bible verses specifically refer to being careful where you store your treasures – itfollows the the reason would have to be because heart follows treasures. So not only did he misquote and misuse the quote – it is obvious he didn't know the context of the verse.
One thousand billion million trillion…
Oct. 25 2000 JACKSON, Tenn. (Reuters) — Criticizing Bush's Social Security privatization plan at a rally in Tennessee, Gore said, "He is proposing to privatize a big part of Social Security and he's proposing to take $1 trillion, a million billion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund and give it as a tax incentive to young workers."
A trillion is one thousand billion, not a million billion.
(Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/wires/1025/p_rt_1...
Remember everyone, this is an old page. Quotes were last updated in 2001! Don't forget to check out my Not Gore Quotes page Liar Liar Pants on Fire
Most people feel that all politicians lie, but all Gore has a particular way of stretching the truth. He's actually more of a braggart who consistently exaggerates his role in the successful things he does. There are actually two sides of his truth deficit; the highly publicized tendency to exaggerate, and (what we feel is) the more serious problem of evasion.
The most famous example of exaggerating, of course, is that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet", but this is hardly an isolated example. When the LINUX and open-source computing movements reached their maximum trendiness, hidden text in his web page — visible to knowledge computer users with the "View Source" command — proclaimed that his web page was an Open Source web page and invited users to contribute to it. For anyone knowledgeable on the subjects, and even for some boneheads like this editor, that is a ludicrous statement that combines bragging and idiot ignorance in equal measure.
Then there is Gore's claim to have uncovered the most famous toxic waste site in the country. As a young congressman in the late 1970s, he said, "I found a little place in upstate New York called Love Canal." (It's a neighborhood in upstate New York that was disastrously polluted by an old underground chemical dump.)
Now each of these claims has some element of truth to it, and his opponents — and even the newspapers, in the Love Canal case — have exaggerated or misquoted him. Gore did support the Internet early on as a congressman — it's fair to say that he took the initiative *among congressmen* — and even Vincent Cerf, the computer scientist who is in fact considered "the father of the Internet", says "It is entirely fitting that the Vice President take some credit for helping create an environment in which (the) Internet could thrive." And Gore did hold the first federal hearings on Love Canal. But both the Internet and the Love Canal scandal were established and well known before Gore ever heard of them.
Plus, the slips continue. Frankly, I can't understand the controversy over the family dog's medication price — the dog does take it, and it costs less than it does for his mother in law. But Gore recently (on September 18, 2000) told a union meeting that his parents sung him to sleep with lullabies such as "Look for the union label" — a song that was written as a jingle for a union ad in 1975, when Gore was 27.
Gore's consistent pattern of exaggeration highlights two of his worst traits. First, he is simply out of touch, swamped by that Washington culture that thinks it is the source of all new and good in America and unable to understand the real world outside. And second, you can hear the cocky arrogance in his voice in his statement about Love Canal. When he says the words "little place", you can feel him struggling to contain his pleasure with his good deeds.
But more troubling to us is Gore's tendency to evade questions about his ethical lapses. Some of these are legalisms where he is actually correct, but has such a tin ear for the way normal people talk that he sounds like a mafia don. For example, his infamous line about "no controlling legal authority" is the most accurate way of describing the law on the picky point of where fundraising phone calls are made from. But he's so out of touch with normal folk that he probably didn't realize how weaselly that sounded.
The more serious examples concern the Buddhist temple fundraising, where he repeatedly changed his story about whether that event was considered a fundraiser. Apparently what he was trying to say was that he knew it was a reward for people who had given money, but that technically the event itself was not a fundraiser. This is fairly typical in our current corrupt system. But when you can't answer a question directly, folks naturally wonder if there is more going on. No one has been able to prove anything yet, but neither can Gore explain himself.
Worst of all are his evasions that simply aren't credible, such as his statement that he didn't hear discussion about fundraising proceeds going illegally into a "hard money" fund because he drank a lot of iced tea and often had to go to the bathroom.
Remember everyone, this is an old page. Quotes were last updated in 2001! Don't forget to check out my Not Gore Quotes page alsoLiar Liar Pants on Fire
Most people feel that all politicians lie, but all Gore has a particular way of stretching the truth. He's actually more of a braggart who consistently exaggerates his role in the successful things he does. There are actually two sides of his truth deficit; the highly publicized tendency to exaggerate, and (what we feel is) the more serious problem of evasion.
The most famous example of exaggerating, of course, is that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet", but this is hardly an isolated example. When the LINUX and open-source computing movements reached their maximum trendiness, hidden text in his web page — visible to knowledge computer users with the "View Source" command — proclaimed that his web page was an Open Source web page and invited users to contribute to it. For anyone knowledgeable on the subjects, and even for some boneheads like this editor, that is a ludicrous statement that combines bragging and idiot ignorance in equal measure.
Then there is Gore's claim to have uncovered the most famous toxic waste site in the country. As a young congressman in the late 1970s, he said, "I found a little place in upstate New York called Love Canal." (It's a neighborhood in upstate New York that was disastrously polluted by an old underground chemical dump.)
Now each of these claims has some element of truth to it, and his opponents — and even the newspapers, in the Love Canal case — have exaggerated or misquoted him. Gore did support the Internet early on as a congressman — it's fair to say that he took the initiative *among congressmen* — and even Vincent Cerf, the computer scientist who is in fact considered "the father of the Internet", says "It is entirely fitting that the Vice President take some credit for helping create an environment in which (the) Internet could thrive." And Gore did hold the first federal hearings on Love Canal. But both the Internet and the Love Canal scandal were established and well known before Gore ever heard of them.
Plus, the slips continue. Frankly, I can't understand the controversy over the family dog's medication price — the dog does take it, and it costs less than it does for his mother in law. But Gore recently (on September 18, 2000) told a union meeting that his parents sung him to sleep with lullabies such as "Look for the union label" — a song that was written as a jingle for a union ad in 1975, when Gore was 27.
Gore's consistent pattern of exaggeration highlights two of his worst traits. First, he is simply out of touch, swamped by that Washington culture that thinks it is the source of all new and good in America and unable to understand the real world outside. And second, you can hear the cocky arrogance in his voice in his statement about Love Canal. When he says the words "little place", you can feel him struggling to contain his pleasure with his good deeds.
But more troubling to us is Gore's tendency to evade questions about his ethical lapses. Some of these are legalisms where he is actually correct, but has such a tin ear for the way normal people talk that he sounds like a mafia don. For example, his infamous line about "no controlling legal authority" is the most accurate way of describing the law on the picky point of where fundraising phone calls are made from. But he's so out of touch with normal folk that he probably didn't realize how weaselly that sounded.
The more serious examples concern the Buddhist temple fundraising, where he repeatedly changed his story about whether that event was considered a fundraiser. Apparently what he was trying to say was that he knew it was a reward for people who had given money, but that technically the event itself was not a fundraiser. This is fairly typical in our current corrupt system. But when you can't answer a question directly, folks naturally wonder if there is more going on. No one has been able to prove anything yet, but neither can Gore explain himself.
Worst of all are his evasions that simply aren't credible, such as his statement that he didn't hear discussion about fundraising proceeds going illegally into a "hard money" fund because he drank a lot of iced tea and often had to go to the bathroom..
I take it that you haven't read anything that was found in the hacked site, nor any of the thousands upon thousands of papers and articles written by scientists who proved, over and over again that "GLOBAL WARMING" is a hoax.
Back in the '70s it was THE NEXT ICE AGE combined with THE WORLD WILL RUN OUT OF FOOD BEFORE THE 21RST CENTURY, the OVER POPULATION BOMB, and then it was "GLOBAL WARMING', which has now been changed to "CLIMATE CHANGE". Of course climates change; they've done so for time immemorial and WITHOUT the use of fossil fcuels nor mankind's input !
But just keep on drinking that polluted KOOL-Aid…………..scotty boy, perhaps it gives you comfort.
Part 1
For those of us skeptics and deniers it’s the Sun that determines how warm or cool the Earth is. The truth about some of the scientists behind the global warming hoax has finally arrived.
The hoax has its roots in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) an instrument of the United Nations Environmental Program for whom global warming was the open sesame to achieving a one-world-government by scaring nations into signing a treaty that would control their use of energy, the means of producing it, and require vast billions to be sent to less developed nations in exchange for emitting greenhouse gases.
Part 2
Energy is called the master resource because if you have lots of it you can call your own shots. If you don’t you are condemned to live in the dark and keeping people in the dark about the global warming hoax was essential. For years the IPCC has been controlled by a handful of the worst liars in the world utterly devoted to taking actual climate data and twisting it to confirm the assertion that the Earth was not only warming dramatically but that humanity was in peril of rising oceans, melting glaciers and polar ice caps, more hurricanes, the die-off of countless animal species, and every other calamity that could possibly be attributed to “global warming”, including acne.
Part 3
So around November 20, when some enterprising individual hacked into the computers of the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (CRU), making off with thousands of emails and documents that demonstrate the level of collusion and deception being practiced by its scientists.
It’s a climate hoax expose that some are calling “climategate.”The weather has nothing whatever to do with human activity!The East Anglia CRU charlatans have been exposed. Most certainly, the United Nations IPCC should be disband in disgrace. It belongs in a museum of hoaxes right beside the Piltdown Man and the Loch Ness Monster.
Read full article:http://www.infowars.com/global-warming-meltdown-c...
the science behind human caused global climate change is much, much, much stronger than any of the overhyped media events you mention.
there has not been one *peer reviewed* article *published* in any *respected journal* on earth that disputes, much less disproves human caused global climate change. if you would like to point me in the direction of one, that would be great.
i guess all i can do is repeat, "tens of thousands of other researchers, from hundreds of different institutions and universities, and dozens of different countries who independently came to the same conclusions using untold differing methodologies and data samples" until it dawns on you the full meaning of those words, or you actually go out and learn science.
i'm not holding my breath on either count.
Al Gore and Bernie Madeoff, both cut from the same cloth.
Actually, Algore heard that cows contribute to global warming. So he has vowed to eat as many of them as he can.
Please-do the same thing to the fraudulent Albore as was done to the mob. If John Gotti or Micheal Franzene can be charged under RICO, why cant ALBORE or ACORN?????
You're full of it, scotty boy.
There have been many, many, many articles published, by brilliant, well respected scientists refuting the JUNK SCIENCE used by the HOAXERS who have/are pushing the phony "GLOBAL WARMING" garb age. But then, I guess that those who show you the facts, aren't to be paid any attention to, because they blow this hoax sky high.
Oh troll, you weren't even out of diapers, when much of what I talked about, was rampant, so you have no idea what it was like back then and every single of those hoaxes have now been proven to be patently ridiculous!
"There have been many, many, many articles published,"
random blog posts don't count.
you are very good at making unsubstantiated claims, not very good at backing them up.
AGAIN. show me one *peer reviewed* article *published* in any *respected journal* on earth that disproves, or even refutes human caused global climate change.
I'm not talking about anything on line nor on a forum or a blog.
BTW…………this site is NOT a "blog" and neither are many other FORUMS.
Nobody reads your links and you will just continue to ignore whatever I facts I post, so go do your own scut work; if you dare.
"I'm not talking about anything on line nor on a forum or a blog. "
AND YET YOU STILL HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE A SINGLE REFERENCE TO THIS "STUDY"
"Nobody reads your links and you will just continue to ignore whatever I facts I post, so go do your own scut work; if you dare. "
no. you made a claim. i simply ask you back that claim up with fact or hard data.
I have posited that such material does not exist. so asking **me*** to locate a proper peer reviewed study proving (or even refuting) human caused global climate change is absurd- i have already stated i cannot find one.
YOU on the other hand assert they are commonplace. so please.
BACK UP your claims.
I am noticing a pattern here. you get cornered when you cannot provide proof of your claims (as you did when i asked you to show how i behave improperly on this forum), then you laugh it off, and promptly drop the topic.
NOT HERE BUDDY. YOU STILL HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE A SINGLE REFERENCE TO THIS "STUDY" THAT YOU CLAIM SO COMMONPLACE.
Bellow, bluster, lie, change the topic, and insult are your tactics. Go ahead and play the silly schoolyard bully; nobody cares; sotty boy.
Is this how you get your count up?
FYI…………just out today: THE CLIMATE HAS BEEN COOLING FOR AT LEAST THE PAST DECADE; STICK THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT !
"Bellow, bluster, lie, change the topic, and insult are your tactics. "
i simply asked you to back up your claims with references. why is this so difficult for you?
"THE CLIMATE HAS BEEN COOLING FOR AT LEAST THE PAST DECADE"
that is simply not true. can you PLEASE PROVIDE A SOURCE for these random claims you make on the internet?
FACT: The decade of 1998-2007 is the warmest on record
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/0712...
also.,
Since the start of the 20th century, the global average surface temperature has risen by 0.74°C. But this rise has not been continuous. The linear warming trend over the last 50 years (0.13°C per decade) is nearly twice that for the last 100 years
come at me with facts brother. you are losing this fight big time.
You're way behind the curve! What I posted to you came out just today.
Everything you are posting is a pack of lies and cooked stats. Go look it up.
LINKS?
[...] Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Chris Horner points out that “there are U.S. taxpayer-funded offices and individuals involved in the [...]
Interesting thoughts here. I appreciate you taking the time to write this.