Exclusive: Pentagon Lawyers Push Back Against Holder’s GITMO Attorneys
by Capitol ConfidentialSome Defense Department lawyers are worried. Actually, quite a few of them are. They see a train wreck coming with the Obama administration’s evolving Guantanamo Bay detainee policies. Since it is DOD lawyers tasked with much of the footwork for administration decisions, they see firsthand how disorganized, inept, and ideologically extreme the handling of the issue has been. The DOJ, now thoroughly politicized and partisan under Eric Holder, is lock step with Obama’s White House on the issue, and is thoroughly at odds with its legal counterparts in the DOD. At a time when former Guantanamo Bay detainees are battling US forces in Afghanistan, and Jihadists are resurgent worldwide, the country can ill afford the administration’s criminalizing of admitted terrorists or of enemy combatants captured in battle against US forces.
What DOD lawyers are worried about are second-order effects. Namely, the unanticipated consequences of decisions made without due consideration or examination of facts. They are deeply concerned that the administration’s political appointees making decisions on the issue are as likely to be chosen for ideological purity as they are for their acumen on applicable laws. The political appointees are perceived by many in the DOD as caring more for their political ideological creed than for the safety of US citizens, or for the responsible stewardship of tax dollars. It is Leftist canon that Guantanamo Bay be closed, the risks and consequences be damned. Every policy decision pursuing that goal equates to thousands of man hours for DOD lawyers and millions of dollars.
DOD attorneys, including prosecutors and defense attorneys of all political stripes, are of the opinion that closing Guantanamo Bay is an illogical and irresponsible political move made without the facts, and one that will cost billions. No stateside facility has the resources Guantanamo Bay does. As for which stateside facility should replace Guantanamo, the administration cannot make up its mind. As Obama’s minions position for optimum political influence, they have flitted from military sites in Leavenworth, Kansas and Charleston AFB, South Carolina, to civilian facilities in Standish, Michigan and Thomson, Illinois.
The MSM has been telling Americans less that the truth on the detainee issue. Americans have not been told how well thought out was the construction of Guantanamo Bay. Its courtroom was designed by the William and Mary Law School – it is state of the art, capable of handling testimony involving top secret evidence. It has a media center. As for the detainees, forget the horror stories that represent the disinformation tactics of terrorist sympathizers who aim to sway public opinion. Detainees receive the best in medical and dental care. They have daily access to soccer fields. They have exercise areas that overlook the Caribbean, books and movies, as well as a menu where they can choose from several entrée’s cooked to Islamic Halal standards.
They are not tortured and they never were.
Lawyers, sympathic to the detainees, want you to forget that the murderers, terrorists and assassins held in Guantanamo Bay are dedicated to destroying the US. They want you to forget that they have no moral compunction against slaughtering innocents. They want you to think they were all peaceful farmers caught up in an overzealous imperialist military action. Even the Uyghur’s, members of the oppressed Chinese ethnic minority, were training to be terrorists – albeit terrorists against the Chinese, not the US. Their lawyers want them released in the US. The US has so far advocated sending them to other countries willing to accept them. They may well end up here.
Obama and Eric Holder will make a final decision only when forced to, draining time and money when justice would be served at Guantanamo Bay without endangering US citizens or allowing terrorists to exploit the US justice system. And exploit it they are, and will. Lawyers for detainees have been busily petitioning the Supreme Court and searching for sympathetic federal judges. Should trials be held in the US it is a distinct possibility that procedural tactics will allow some of the terrorists held at Guantanamo to go free. And that is exactly what many of the leftist lawyers that flocked to Guantanamo from the very beginning hope for.
What DOD lawyers understand is that the defense of the nation must be decisive, just as must the justice meted out to its enemies. They take their oath to defend the nation seriously. Their very real fear is that justice will not be served by those whose sympathies lay in part with the terrorists, believing their own country responsible for all the miseries delivered on it on 9-11-2001, and after. They perceive that the proposal to transfer detainees to the US is not about justice, but about exploiting a crisis and engaging in political manipulation. All in the quest for the opiate of power.
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I stand in utter amazement; complete shock and awe of these people. They have sworn an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, and to protect US. They are utterly unbelievable. Beyond description……
This administration has lied every step of the way, to the American people! They have never had ANY intention is protecting OUR interest! They only care about the Muslim and black communities getting away with tearing this country apart! He promised to close the 'divide' when, in truth, he has done everything in his power to seperate the American people even further!!
IMPEACH the entire administration!!!
The DOD is now in the position of defending us from the people in office. Appalling.
Cowboy Logic, this is Marxism! They create an economic crisis and take over the government! Watch Glenn Beck, he gets it! By the end of 2011 America will be a Marxist Government and Obama will be commander-and-Chief, still! Read Karl Marx! He said he was Anti-Messiah! You figure! Watch!
"They see a train wreck coming with the Obama…"
You think?!
The more we see and hear of Holder and those around him
the more we see the way Obummer and his directors are trying
to undermine the security of the USA
the more I wonder just how much vital information this administration
is passing on to foreign powers.
You may call it paranoia but……………………….
bla, bla bla, Sorry Capitol Confidential, I'll become interested in this story, that we've all known was
going on, when some of these Justice Dept lawyers go public with specifics, ya know come forward,
meet the cameras head on, in other words 'risk their career'. It is 'that' important, isn't it?
DOD takes their oath of office seriously – THANK GOD! And now they must protect this country from the enemies; foreign, and DOMESTIC!
i'm at a loss for words anymore. this administration is like the keystone cops with a grudge against America.
I struggle to find facts and a thesis in your story above.
Obama's ultimate goal is to ruin the Republic. He is succeeding at destroying us and yet his approval numbers are still in the high 40's. Wake up America.
There is a silver lining in all of this.
IF the DOJ get their way and the trails become the circus we all know it would be then it will only serve to further enrage an already enraged public. The Obama administration continues to over reach and again it serves as a Bell Toll to all of us who still have some common sense.
It becomes harder and harder for the "Moderate" among us to argue the liberals case and they eventually become enlightened to the fact that they are inviting Communism with every Democratic vote..
I for one am not worried. If they get what they want it brings the rebellion closer to the surface. If they are stopped it is because the rebellion is working.
The Obama agenda is heating the pot and this article describes more fuel for the fire.
Holder is an adolescent punk with a chip on his shoulder. The American people have just knocked it off.
Is it just me, or does that picture above make him look like Sinbad?
Tempus that is their sworn oath, to protect and defend the constitution of the United States of America. God protect us all.
Ding, ding, ding……….you win the stuffed animal of your choice. Might I add, his boss fits into this
category as well.
Yes, a little, if you hung another 300 # on him.
Other "P" word comes to mind… possibly, potentially, probably , and my favorite, postnationalism. Transforming America ain't it grand?
I assume your derangement comes fortoxic mold poisoning. You need to get out of your folks basement.
Yet another example of how inept Obama is. He controls both the DOJ AND the DOD, and yet he can't get them to cooperate with each other. Is it because he has no idea what he's doing, or is it because he's standing with his finger in the air trying to determine which way the wind is blowing? Either way, the teleprompter can't help him with this one.
beyond description…..traitors is a pretty good description….
I wouldn't call it paranoia at all…They are doing all their
shenanigans out in the open, and all at once….They are
probrably thinking if the throw enough s**t at the fan, we
won't see the stuff that falls to the floor…..
Nah. He looks more like a rat.
None of this comes as a shock to me.
i dont think the air is where his finger is stuck up
The Left argues (when they even bother to present an argument) that GITMO must be closed because it is used as a propaganda and "recruiting tool" by the Muslim extremists.
Wonder how the Muslim extremists (and the Muslim world in general) view the "collateral damage" that results from Obama's stepped-up campaign of drone-guided missile attacks, which routinely injure or kill women, babies, children, grandmothers, grandfathers and neighbors of the actual missile-attack targets?
The left hand must be the one you're thinking of! lol! That thought occurred to me, but I was trying to keep it out of the gutter this morning.
It's OK is you struggle to read. Sometimes, there are programs you enter that will help you fix that. I used to work for one.
He looks like a man worried about hiding his own liberal racist agenda to me.
<sarc>Oh pshaw! Now you're just making too much sense! What will people say? Next thing you know we'll lose our reputation as ignorant, racist hate mongers.</sarc>
People……we have a bunch of white kids that have grown up that do not know a damn thing about how capitalism is and even less of what our founding fathers put in place for future generations. Sad! As for the other race(s), it is even worse! We need to blame ourselves for letting this go on to long. "Real Change" is coming and it has to start with the text books to be written correctly and Texas can do it as the starting line.
That's waht I don't get. And there are 40% of registered voters still willing to vote for that complete tool Specter. Its frightening.
If Eric Holder decides to send these "criminals" back to Gitmo,…..will the NY Times,…
start writing rave reviews about this place this time,
Well, who da thunk? What does anyone expect from this crowd. Honesty? Integrity? Devotion to the truth? Wake up folks and smell the coffee. It is morning in America…..again
totally understand your dilemma there Johnny Nuts,…… The realization of a mistake is,…….
an extremely hard thing to grasp, when you are in denial,……don't worry there lad,….
Eric and the MSM will explain the whole thing to you.
He is wondering about when it was that,…… his entire world started to fall apart.
Well, let's not tell him that he isn't succeeding in hiding that agenda.
He must have an inkling or he wouldn't be worried. I think he's just now started to realize that he's hitched his cart to a dead horse. I couldn't be happier!
Kinda makes you want to smile, doesn't it? lol!
Not as long as Rush continues to sponsor Club Gitmo! lol!
Me too!
So the junior senator from Illinois thought he knew how to play president…
If he was smart, he'd have a doctor provide some health reasons as to why he can't come back for a second term.
Too bad his common sense isn't working.
I agree. I just don't get it. Is this country really that niave?
Does your house have lead paint Johnny?
We have seen the enemy and the enemy is our current administration and Congress.
Don't look for it to happen! The DOD is in cahoots with the whole corrupt mess. Their oath meant nothing to them. Have you been watching the actions of this DOD thus far? Not a pretty picture, and Holder is at the top leading the mess.
Won't happen. They are part of it!
I don't think they even remember taking an oath. THeir job is to turn America's enemies loose. Why do you think they even contemplated bringing KSM to the states to try?
Years and years of total indoctrination in the public schools. We have kids who can't read or do math, but they know all about the socialist agenda. They were even forced to watch, some with their parents, that discredited mess of a movie Al BORE made. England put the big lie to that, but the indoctrination had already taken place. BORE even told the students to "NOT LISTEN TO THEIR PARENTS!
Years and years of total indoctrination at the hands of the public school system. They turn out kids who can't read of do math, but they know all about how bad capitalism is, and all about the socialist agenda. They were forced to watch Al Bore's lying movie, when his monetary gain was what he was all about. England put the big lie to that movie, and now the climate scientists have admitted how doctored their research was. He looks like a fool telling students to "not listen to your parents!"
Janet Reno taught him how to be corrupt well!
It appears to me that the left does not know who they are messing with. The DoD and most of our veterans are well trained fighters, have guns, and don't like what is happening to our country. Be careful, be very careful.
At this point, the DOD lawyers had to make a stand. Either they breakaway now from Holder's minions or they will be called into testify at a later date about why they didn't fight this unamerican activity. I want to thank these Republican Senators for putting Holder in power. Hope you are pleased with your vote.
Alexander (R-TN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Chambliss (R-Ga)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Sessions (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
May I recommend "Hooked on Phonics"?
If anyone wondered why the United States appears missing in Biblical prophecy and how in the world it could be that we're not significantly involved in the goings on… you're living through it right now.
aitn gonna happen
at least teh keystone cops had a plan
if the hooked on phonics doesnt do it
there is medication which will help you focus
a few years ago i would have disagreed with you
lmao
or is that mourning?
thx for the list, they're the same old usual wishy-washy names we have learned we can NOT count on,
when it gets down to the nut-cuttin'. The only two that surprise me are Chambliss & Sessions. I am
happy to say neither of my senators are on this list.
Anyone whose Senator is on this list, I appeal to you to get busy & do whatever you can to impress upon
them your concern. The rest of us can raise Hell till the cows come home, but it is you their constituents
who will be able to influence them.
Good, now we are thinking ahead a step or two; and I agree with those who imply the "Rush" ditto on this might be an albatross. Even though EIB seems to come to proper conclusions, and actually has predictive power and so forth, the tone, and the label are too much to have attached to carefully managed matters.
I am glad this is starting at DOD. And, I do NOT think these folks should be "outed". Let the sensible retain their jobs. I am thrilled, and not surprised to hear that GITMO has state-of-the-art facilities. Perhaps they could include social media, and provide a Facebook presence, YouTube coverage of hearings, blogs by those working on both sides of the hearings, public copies of evidence…this all ought to appeal to the more left-leaning, who worship at many altars including "high tech" and "science". You know, if stupid "City of Los Angeles" can put almost all of its hearings and docs online, then the US government can too (watch out for all the differing standards…failure to standardize is a DISEASE in federal government computing).
Well….you shouldn't buy watermelons from obama. he laces the melons with kool aid!
CHANGE THAT JIHADISTS CAN BELIEVE IN
America, against Obama and his brothers of Jihad!! Obama has made sure he placed the people in charge to protect his brothers in faith!!!! Health-care (All military know, when you sign your body over to the government, you become government property (GI, "Government issue") , from that point on, you become expendable, at the military's discretion. "Health-care" does the same, without the requirement of your signature) is Jihad on the Constitution (The law that requires your signature to surrender your body to government control)!!
And the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority leader are all a part of it. Both have their noses stuck so far up the backside of this crooked leader, I'm surprised if they can wash the sh&$ off.
Looking at Holders picture, I see God, not from my perspective but from his!!! From my perspective I see someone who should have been incarcerated long ago!!!
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