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		<title>By: Syntax_Game</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syntax_Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: » The Left Continues to Break: More Cracks in Net Neutrality Front &#8230; &#124; Drakz Free Online Service</title>
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		<dc:creator>» The Left Continues to Break: More Cracks in Net Neutrality Front &#8230; &#124; Drakz Free Online Service</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The contracts between isps are different from the contracts with individual and business customers.   The contracts the isps have with each other are peering contracts: network neutrality.  The contracts they have with their endpoint customers are not neutral - they are, to different degrees, designed to treat some &quot;bits&quot; as more or less valuable than other bits.  The typical home DSL contract has different upload and download speeds, and if you look at the product line, the upload bits basically cost more than download bits -- even though the cost to the provider is the same.  Competition forces the price of download bits down, but they make up for that by charging a lot more for upload bandwidth. 
 
So, no, the market doesn&#039;t lead to any kind of neutrality.  It leads to differentiation of services. 
 
Also, the initial telco networks were a government permitted monopoly by AT&amp;T.  The first internet networks were funded by the government.  Telcos have rights-of-way that cross over private property.  So, they are not wholly privately owned - they are a kind of private property that exists with government consent to limit other peoples&#039; private property rights. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The contracts between isps are different from the contracts with individual and business customers.   The contracts the isps have with each other are peering contracts: network neutrality.  The contracts they have with their endpoint customers are not neutral &#8211; they are, to different degrees, designed to treat some &quot;bits&quot; as more or less valuable than other bits.  The typical home DSL contract has different upload and download speeds, and if you look at the product line, the upload bits basically cost more than download bits &#8212; even though the cost to the provider is the same.  Competition forces the price of download bits down, but they make up for that by charging a lot more for upload bandwidth. </p>
<p>So, no, the market doesn&#039;t lead to any kind of neutrality.  It leads to differentiation of services. </p>
<p>Also, the initial telco networks were a government permitted monopoly by AT&amp;T.  The first internet networks were funded by the government.  Telcos have rights-of-way that cross over private property.  So, they are not wholly privately owned &#8211; they are a kind of private property that exists with government consent to limit other peoples&#039; private property rights.</p>
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		<title>By: cackcon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I missed something, but since when does the internet discriminate against racial minorities?  I say we drag Al Gore in front of Congress to explain the inherent racism of his invention... 
 
Oh, and whatever Jesse Jackson wants, I vote the opposite--sure saves me the time I&#039;d have to spend researching something myself. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I missed something, but since when does the internet discriminate against racial minorities?  I say we drag Al Gore in front of Congress to explain the inherent racism of his invention&#8230; </p>
<p>Oh, and whatever Jesse Jackson wants, I vote the opposite&#8211;sure saves me the time I&#039;d have to spend researching something myself.</p>
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		<title>By: victor barney</title>
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		<dc:creator>victor barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE UNDERSTAND---WE VOTED FOR A MARXIST GOVERNMENT AND NOBODY IN POWER WILL LISTEN TO ANYBODY BUT THE GHOST OF MAO TSE TUNG!  
 
BETTER PRAY THAT THE 2010 ELECTION IS NOT STOPPED, BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY CHANCE AMERICA HAS LEFT! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE UNDERSTAND&#8212;WE VOTED FOR A MARXIST GOVERNMENT AND NOBODY IN POWER WILL LISTEN TO ANYBODY BUT THE GHOST OF MAO TSE TUNG!  </p>
<p>BETTER PRAY THAT THE 2010 ELECTION IS NOT STOPPED, BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY CHANCE AMERICA HAS LEFT!</p>
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		<title>By: Web Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Access capability is private property belonging to the TelCos who have spent trillions buying , installing , and maintaining it over the past 70 years. Fortunately, it is to their benefit to keep us happy by providing services that we want at prices we will pay. All TelCos share their networks freely at agreed upon prices with all of the other 1200 TelCos in the nation because they don&#039;t want to be the one that is isolated and not shared with and unable to keep their customers happy. The business model does not allow a TelCo to restrict their network. Any need for net neutrality is based on illiterate speculation and fabrication in an attempt to steal control of private property much like the Telecom Deregulation Act did by leaving the TelCos regulated to their serving areas and rates while taking their private property and forcing them to sell it at below market rates. This is government theft of private property that will cause the TelCos to be put in economic jeopardy when they are forced to invest in equipment and software just to meet government mandates. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Access capability is private property belonging to the TelCos who have spent trillions buying , installing , and maintaining it over the past 70 years. Fortunately, it is to their benefit to keep us happy by providing services that we want at prices we will pay. All TelCos share their networks freely at agreed upon prices with all of the other 1200 TelCos in the nation because they don&#039;t want to be the one that is isolated and not shared with and unable to keep their customers happy. The business model does not allow a TelCo to restrict their network. Any need for net neutrality is based on illiterate speculation and fabrication in an attempt to steal control of private property much like the Telecom Deregulation Act did by leaving the TelCos regulated to their serving areas and rates while taking their private property and forcing them to sell it at below market rates. This is government theft of private property that will cause the TelCos to be put in economic jeopardy when they are forced to invest in equipment and software just to meet government mandates.</p>
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		<title>By: peaches1</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know when they start talking neutrality, balance, even; you know it&#039;s anything but and usually the worst for the people.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know when they start talking neutrality, balance, even; you know it&#39;s anything but and usually the worst for the people.</p>
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