Los Angeles Robocall Proves ACORN ‘Internal Review’ Is a Scam
by Capitol ConfidentialJust a few weeks after the first undercover ACORN videos were released, Big Government received a recording of a robocall from ACORN that ran in the Los Angeles area. Around this time, ACORN’s Chief Organizer Bertha Lewis went before the National Press Club to stress that the actions of her employees revealed in the videos “made her sick.” She reiterated that she fired the employees involved and promised a thorough internal review and reform of ACORN.

So, the robocalls were a mea culpa and promise that ACORN would do better in the future? Hardly. Away from the kleig lights of the national press, ACORN continued to deny wrongdoings and deflect attention to “extremists” attacking her. On the calls, ACORN even reiterates the lie that James O’Keefe and Hannah Giles were turned away in Los Angeles.
Listen for yourself (in English and Spanish):
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Transcript and more after the jump.
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ENGLISH TRANSCRIPT:
Hello. This is ACORN. We’re calling to let you know that ACORN has continued to fight hard against foreclosures, for affordable healthcare, and now, to beat back the extremist attacks against our members, an organization you have seen on the news this week. Los Angeles ACORN successfully turned away the two right-wing activists who secretly videotaped a handful of ACORN employees and stopped their attempts to discredit the good will of ACORN here in Los Angeles. Thank you for your continued support. Always remember that the people united will never be defeated. Should you have any questions or would like to find out how you can be more involved, please call the L.A. office at 213 747 4211 extension 215. Thank you and have a good evening.
SPANISH TRANSLATION:
“Hi, we are calling to inform you that ACORN continues working against the embargo of mortgages and for healthcare reform, and now to fight the attacks of the conservative press like Fox News. In LA the Fox News activists attempted to infiltrate our office but we (removed them w/o incident)”{I believe this is what was said}. “Thank you for your support and as always ‘A united people will never be overcome.’
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The Spanish language part of the robocall explicitly mentions Fox News as the originators of the undercover video sting. The English language part simply mentions “an organization.” ACORN can’t even keep their story straight in different languages. ACORN needs a Chief Organizer of its evolving story lines.
The robocall confirms what we have always expected: ACORN’s commitment to an “internal review” is a scam meant to deflect attention from its many problems. Even before ACORN has publicly released the results of its “review,” they have already sued to have their federal funding reinstated. The robocall and federal suit reveal how ACORN acts when it thinks no one is paying attention.
In the light of day, ACORN’s spin machine jockeys to get just enough favorable media coverage to survive any particular story or news cycle. It will distort and lie, confident that Big Media will never follow-up nor hold the organization accountable for its past statement. The Ombudsman of the New York Times even had to admit that one of the paper’s reporters had, on his own initiative, edited one of Bertha Lewis’ statements to cover-up the fact that she had lied. After videos of ACORN Baltimore and DC were released, Lewis put out a statement claiming that James and Hannah were thrown out of ACORN’s New York office, among other locations. After a video of ACORN New York was released however, the Times reporter edited New York out of any further references to Lewis’ statement.
We’ve stopped waiting for the Columbia Review of Journalism or any other “keepers of journalism’s flame” to weigh in on that episode.
ACORN’s only hope to survive is to deflect public attention long enough that the videos, and the deep corruption they exposed, recede in memory. If Big Media continues to willfully ignore ACORN and its corruption, nevermind actually aid and abet their spin, ACORN may very well get away with it.





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FINALLY!!! You have a recording of ACORN that you didn't commit a felony to get!!! Took you all year to get but at least you're finally starting to get a freakin' clue. Proud of ya!
213 747 4211
The number still works……….
Isn't election fraud a FELONY?
Or is that immaterial in your book?
ACORN is a corrupt organization from it’s inception, nothing will change through an internal investigation. Keep the pressure up BG, that’s what will work, and maybe we get SEIU in the same net.
As the MSM further renders itself irrelevant, except for the wildest of leftist moonbats. We need to help them over the cliff, cancel subscriptions, boycott advertisers, do not ingest their swill. We are productive America, cut off the money and their asses will follow.
Their lips are moving, therefore…
Criminals. I wonder if there is any grounds to pursue the attorney general 4 not investigating a org. that receives gov grants that clearly is a corrupt org. .see u in 2012 Eric !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how much is acorn paying you?
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The foundation/premise of ACORN is a noble one to be sure; but there is NO DOUBT that it is now corrupt and does much to DAMAGE (not help) society as a whole (corrupting our election process is deplorable, for one!). I would like nothing better than to see other LEGITIMATE organizations rise up out of this rubble to do those good things ACORN was supposed to be doing all along, and do them with character and integrity and with the good of those it serves in mind. As far as the "investigative reporting" to uncover ACORN's misdeeds … KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
hope the audits go well!!!!!!!!!!
It is time for the American people to demand action on this group and anyone that is associated with them. I do not care what it takes but I am sick of what is being done to this country…they may have won the election but we the people still have the power!
SELL ALL GE STOCK or DEMAND A MUZZLE FOR THEIR ANCHORS (THEN SELL), REFUSE TO PAY TUITION FOR YOUR KIDS TO ATTEND LIBERAL COLLEGES, BOYCOTT SPONSORS OF NBC, CBS, ABC, DEMAND YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS INVESTIGATE THIS ORGANIZATION, DEMAND CHARLIE RANGALS RESIGNATION…this list could go on…also how many women are in jail right now because their "partner" was arrested for possesion of an illegal substance while they were in the house? How many families have been torn apart due to this "crime"? WHY THE HELL DID BARNEY FRANK WALK AWAY FREE AND CLEAR? DEMAND the same justice that for him that you and I would face! Enough is enough…WHO THE HELL DO THEY THINK THEY ARE?
It's one thing to HEAR density at work, and even less astounding to SEE it in print. The only smoking gun here is your comment – more unneeded proof that liberals are fully mentally defunct.
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You realize in a logical world, you have given up all rights to complain or fight when someone commits a crime against you, since you do not care if crimes are commited by others.
Cant wait to see whats on the next Acorn tapes, can you Eric? A 20 and 25 year old has the president of the United States watching.
Reverse number lookup for 213 747 4211:
1. Acorn Tenant Union, 3655 S Grand Ave, Ste 250, Los Angeles CA 90007-4327
–Same address for the rest
2. Albert Chavez, Job: Los Angeles Acorn,Treasurer
3. Janet Karatz, Job: Los Angeles Acorn, President
4. Sarah Miggins, Job: Los Angeles Acorn, Director
5. Amy Schure, Job: Acorn Tenant Union, Director
6. Amy Shore, Job: Acorn Tenant Union, Director
7. Reuben Tran, Job: Los Angeles Acorn, Director of Finance
8. John Ulin, Job: Los Angeles Acorn, Vice President
The ACORN Tenant Union does robocalls for home ownership and health care?
Yeah I know, its just one big office with lots of phones. Which brings up some questions. From what I know of phone company billing, there is one "owner" of a number that pays the big bill. A "tenant union" sounds like something helpful that may see its share of government cash to help out its clients. Are the finances co-mingled to where this helpful tenant union is paying for LA ACORN's phone calls, like these robocalls? Is government money paying for them?
Yes!
Isn't that hilarious?
Two young adults, O'Keefe and Giles have the Obama Administration scrambling for cover. Steppin' and fetchin' like a bunch of chickens in a hailstorm. Obama was dumb enough to think that his world tour would shift attention away from this.
Psst, Barry: It's the CORRUPTION, stupid………..
Since their "foundation/premise" sure seems to really come from far radical left principles aimed at crashing the system, no way would I call that noble, and I would not even want ANY similar organizations to "rise from their ashes." We have plenty that are already doing the legitimate good work. And do we want to see what "good" comes from the ashes of toxic waste?
You sure do work hard to get out the message that no one cares about ACORN. Why do you care so much about something you say no one else cares about?
Where is troll scott-z whining about so many ACORN articles?
Dirtie Bertie is facing extinction.
you're really a one trick pony, aren't you?
oh boo hoo, poor acorn was recorded offering assistance to set up a brothel for underage illegal immigrant girls. poor, poor acorn. but who cares about the sex slave children, right?
I think this is wrong crowd to try that rhetoric on. They get it! They know what ACORN is.
Nice attempt to redirect attention. Isn't it YOUR buddies that said "It's not the nature of the evidence but the seriousness of the charge ….. ".
How about the nature of the evidence AND the seriousness of the charge?
O'Keefe and Giles are heroes. You both were magnificent. Please teach others how to do it.
Google Obama and the strategy of manufactured crisis and read the excellent article the American Thinker wrote putting the dots together on how Cloward Pivin and Obama and ACORN and his other radical cronies all come together for the Marxist takeover of our country.
People used to know this in the past, but lost today is the knowledge in the everyday person that Unions origins are communist, and that not all, but a lot of unions are run by communists. Everyone used to know that.
/Bertha….is that you?
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What James & Hannah (plus Breitbart) did to ACORN has Obama so worried that he is bringing in Bob Bauer as his new White House Counsel/Acorn cleanup guy.
See http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/...
Bauer is a known ACORN defender who helped Obama during the campaign.
Reminds me of Vince Foster, whose main job as White House Counsel was to "clean up" the ties/evidence of the Clintons' Whitewater scandal. I wonder if police will someday discover Bauer's body in Fort Marcy Park and declare it a suicide, in spite of a gaping bullet hole in the head (with no blood or brain matter close by), with his arms and legs perfectly arranged at his sides. I hope it doesn't happen, for Bauer's sake, just wondering.
Acorn is history.It took a lot of years and a lot of government corruption to make Acorn as big as it is.But it's been stabbed in the heart and it's bleeding out as we speak.The congress of the United States needs the same thrust through the heart in 2010.
Only when it comes to congress the thrusts have to come fast and furious with no let up.
Should you have any questions or would like to find out how you can be more involved, please call the L.A. office at 213 747 4211 extension 215. (Courtesy of Capitol Confidential)
Can you please explain to us how your organization can legally promote Prostitution, Human Traffiking, Exploitation of Minors, Voter Fraud, Campaign Fraud, Conspiracy, Money Laundering, Tax Evasion, Misuse of Public Funds, Violation of 503c Laws?
Is it possible that Ole' Big Bertha should "Fire" herself? Acorn…..is what the liberal, Democratic Party stands for. Corruption at its best! Obama supports them so what does that make him?
Acorn………Rotten to the bone:
http://www.rottenacorn.com/
http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html
Send the ACORN videos to China! China is already questioning the “horrible healthcare bill” and wondering if this is a mistake! We are in debt to China and if they see Federal monies being wasted and laws being broke they will re-call their money from the US! The Attorney General and our “poor excuse for a president” think they can do what they want. The “spineless Senators” not filing for an Impeachment process will be out in 2010&2012
Bertha for congress…then WE CAN VOTE HER OUT!!!
that is one ugly woman and a complete idiot to boot….acorn/seiu should be defunded permanently!! get the forensic accountants in and tear their books apart…bet you'd find a few RICO charges against a few people present and former….
ARABIC TRANSLATION:
Bertha: "ACORN IS GREAT. ALLAH IS GREAT! Takbir."
DNC: "Allahu Akbar."
Bertha: "DEATH TO AMERICA. DEATH TO FOX! Takbir."
DNC: "Allahu Akbar."
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hey salty,
I think the thrusts for congress have to come "with a twist".
Just like VAMPIRES. They have been operating in darkness for many years. We need to pass out the stakes to get these blood thirsty demons gone for ever.
You know the BITE is contagious – Leading to many in Congress to the MONSTER's White House !
they should just put this group away
That there is not a federal investigation to investigate this corrupt organization that received millions in tax money and used that money to campaign illegally for the democratic party just shows how high the corruption goes, doesn't it???
I hope you are right, but I often see these things find a way to revive themselves, a new name, a new address, and voila, like mold in a bathroom, tit's back!.
wait… are you talking about Dear Leader's eligibility?
they still know that, our media is run by communists too though, so they shape our perception of the rest of the country just like State Media in USSR did.
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These ACORN nuts have been into BO's STASH just one time too many.
Interesting how much alike Syntax_game and scott_z sound, isn't it? So little interest in Acorn's crimes. No interest in fraud, racketeering, embezzlement, vote rigging, etc. All for the greater good, isn't it?
They'd be screaming if a Repub-affiliated organization were complicit.
Probably have to switch to a battleaxe.
If any of the Islamofascists scheduled to be tried in NYC goes free, Eric Holder will be used as Obama's scapegoat, even tho he's operating with Obama's consent.
I'm no seer but I hope I'm right too.Corrupt organizations like Acorn don't usually stand up to the light of day.Those two filmakers have shone a supernova on them.
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I guess my fear is the great advantage ACORN gave the democratic party, and since they are in power now and have written the book on corruption, well–you can see my point! Those two film makers are real heroes! Bring on the supernovas!!!
LOL that's what I was going to say. But I like Cowboy's name…Dirty Bertie.
I never heard of Acorn until last year and by then they were under investigation in 14 states.They've been around for 30-35yrs..Let's hope the lights are on come next year and that everyone's awake.
In my part of Texas our squirrels know what to do with ACORN(S)they bury them.
I would love to take BHO each and every Congressman,Senator and Bureaucrat
freeloading Government types Republican or Demoncrat and send them to the dark side of the Moon.
I never thought I would get to the point where I would have to say"Burn it down and lets start over."
This time no career politicians 6 yrs Max for governors,senators and house of representative 1 five year term for president and no second terms ever. All wars are to be initiated and terminated within 90 days If you don't intend to win and win big don't roll the dice. Oh one more thing bring a couple of Frenchman over with a guillotine and spend a month thining out the lobbyist now these pukes are first cousins with pimps,punks and other buzzards my apologies to the turkey vulture a truly gracious creature when compared to the types named above.
We must keep supporting Tea Parties and continue to do anything else we can.
I am going to go out on a limb and say, yes, you and I are paying for it. We pay for Bertha to spread lies about reporters, our country, innocent citizens, the whole enchilada.
Makes me sick.
Get the audio of Bertha on Mark Thompson, Make it Plain, on Sirius left. She claims to have transcripts that show this is just one big lie.
Any convictions on the so-called election fraud? If not than it can't go in the book because that would be libel. It's still America Mr. Logic.
Gee, ACORN is going to pay me to "poke badgers with a stick" over ACORN Derangement Syndrome. If ACORN was to pay me $10 for every person that actually cares about this ACORN Derangement Syndrome, well I would have 2 maybe 300 dollars? Do you really think your worth it?
The only thing corrupt here is the insistence of people in picking on an organisation that aids low income mostly minorities. Far more money goes into corporations like Halliburton that get billions for providing substandard services to our troops. That poisons electrocutes troops and iraqi citizens. That allows its employees to commit rapes without legal retribution. And how about the millions that go to Blackwater… who murder with impunity and engage in assassinations and indulge in child prostitution?
But you crusaders go after ACORN. Gee, …how courageous…. NOT!
Typical rightwing hackery…. going after social organisations but letting corporations get away with rape and murder.
Corrupting our election process??? Can you actually prove that or have you been indoctrinated into regurgitating the ACORN Derangement Syndrome that the other 37 weak-minded acolytes here regurgitate? Can you provide a link as to where the organization of ACORN has been convicted of "corrupting our election process" or are you just upset with all those poor black folk actually voting last year? The whole moral "Right Supremacist" movement.
You seem intelligent enough to spell Google compared to some of the other missing rocket scientists around here, have you even bothered to research state election board laws when it comes to voter registrations? It may explain how ACORN has been exonerated on every accusation of voter registration fraud except Nevada. Who would take my word for it though when you seem intelligent enough to figure it out for yourself like the other 299,999,934 people in this country who don;t buy into this childish ACORN Derangement Syndrome.
Mentally defunct enough to clean your clock in 2 election cycles in a row. How pathetic of you to lose that miserably to "mentally defunct" people. Must really be lacking in the brain pan huh?
Please provide links to the convictions where ACORN was found guilty. I know your a "guest" but here in America, you're presumed innocent until proven guilty. But I am open to being corrected so please provide the guilty convictions so you may actually prove ACORN is guilty of crimes.
I love poking badgers with a stick. That an a research project I'm working on involving group think.
I'm not poor poor ACORN. In case you haven't caught up with current events Skeeter, your Right Supremacist propaganda hasn't actually accomplished anything with ACORN. Got any convictions yet? No? Boo hoo for you then.
What evidence? What charge? Where has ACORN has been charged with anything? Hello? You live here?
Leeta? Name like that, you work for ACORN? If you voted last year, your subject to secret tapings by felonious hacks.
"fraud, racketeering, embezzlement, vote rigging" — Please provide links to where there have been convictions for these against the organization of ACORN? Please save the typical ACORN Derangement Syndrome talking points and responses to your accusations without proof…heard them all before.
Bring it on baby! I've voted for the last 36 years. My name is a proud one, the oldest daughter is named Leeta and every other one is called by their middle name. I'm sure you are not proud of your name because you don't use it. Get a rope.
Syntax game, why don't you check out Ohio? Or are you too stupid? Election fraud convictions in Ohio. Hello, brain-dead!
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"but who cares about the sex slave children, right?"
obviously you don't. you're scum bag. ACORN is done for… get over it, baby.
ACORN IS DONE FOR. BYE BYE, ACORN
THE ONLY PROPAGANDA GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY IS BY THE CURRENT SOCIALISTS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
You've never heard about the ACORN employees who have already entered guilty pleas regarding voter registration fraud?
Ignorance is bliss, right?
The state of Nevada, douche bag.
LET ME GUESS — YOU VOTED FOR THE OBAMANATION!!
"It may explain how ACORN has been exonerated on every accusation of voter registration fraud except Nevada."
lets just forget the ACORN employees who have already plead guilty. ok. good. i see you're a step ahead on this one.
Syntax-
Lets put your lies to bed once and for all, ok bub? Here is a list of ACORN fraud. It even has a map.
http://rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html
Not only interesting, but odd that they never show up posting at the same time. It is either one, or the other, and their writing styles are too similar………..
I have been following "politics" for merely a year now, so I do not pretend to know much (even though I have been very diligent in following stories, especially ACORN), but I have already noticed one thing that comes across loud and clear: anytime one raises a LEGITIMATE issue, a "tit for tat" ensues! I am getting WEARY of those who do NOT have the character to address THE ISSUE at hand, instead the response is pointing the finger on "the other side." Until we stop doing this (and stop looking at the issues as "left vs. right" we will NOT get much accomplished. Let's stand ON PRINCIPLE, and RIGHT is RIGHT and WRONG is WRONG, no matter if it is being done by the left or the right … SO STOP IT NOW! That being said, there have been ACORN voter fraud charges brought up ALL ACROSS THE NATION … the fact that the "convictions" have been much fewer only proves (like the Panthers voter intimidation charges dropped) that the "powers that be" HAVE POWER TO AFFECT OUTCOMES … yes, corporate greed is heinous as well … but corrupting our election process ROBS US of our voice and is despicable in a different (but no less) way!
Careful Leeta.
You caint say get a rope. Folks are too politically correct for that. That is enough to drive them over the edge………….
not if you bes of politically correct colors and can gets 1,000 votes fors the hussiens.
ACORN and SEIU are Communist organizations. See proof and the deep ties to Obama here: http://www.commieblaster.com/acorn/index.html
Leeta, the name reference was uncalled for and I owe you an apology.
Nevada hasn't even gone to trial yet and I wouldn't hold your breath on a conviction with that one. Even if ACORN is convicted, the maximum penalty they will face is…ready for this…a $5000 fine. That's FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!! wow
SYNTAX GAME-is a paid programmed activist for the democraps and mr liar in office who is only there because of a rigged election. Take your skanky ass and peddle it elsewhere’s!
And do you know the circumstances as to how those ACORN temp workers plead guilty. Skeeter, did you even bother to research state election board laws with these convictions? Is there any reason why temp workers were convicted but NOT the organization ACORN? Nah…why be smart when you can just gobble up the propaganda right?
And what has happened in Ohio? Any convictions against the organization ACORN in Ohio? Any at all? No? I already checked out Ohio and nothing has happened to ACORN in Ohio. Temp workers were convicted but ACORN was exonerated.
rottonacorndotcom? You're kidding me right?
Rottonacorndotcom is a website launched and maintained by Rick Berman and his company Berman and Company: http://www.bermanco.com This is the same PR specialist who also launched campaigns against Mothers Against Drunk Driving and has launched campaigns to loosen DWI laws on behalf of the restaurant and bar industries because more drunks on the road is good for our economy. He also launched campaigns to convince you that corn syrup isn't bad for you, mercury in fish is actually good for you and excessive indoor tanning has no harmful effects. Rottonacorndotcom has been debunked a thousand times over WAY before these tapes came out.
You can't attempt to put my lies to bed with a websited packed full of already debunked lies from a text book definition of an "opinion generator" like Rick Berman.
http://www.bermanexposed.org
Nice.
I believe the "sex slave children" idea was Giles and O'Keefe's am I correct?
Have you ever even been to a Socialist country or lived under a Socialist regime? You should try it for a year or two. You might actually appreciate your country better.
What charge? What evidence? You have an upcoming case in Nevada that if ACORN is convicted, they could face a maximum penalty of a $5000 fine. That's FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!! Wow…that's pretty serious huh? All other voter registration investigations have exonerated ACORN and the Ohio RICO investigation has been stalled for almost a year probably due to a lack of evidence.
So a whopping "serious" $5000 fine for the forced resignations of an Attorney General, numerous White House personnel including Harriet Myers and Sarah Miller and forced subpoenaed testimony from numerous officials including Karl Rove who was implicated according to Harriet Myers testimony in an ongoing investigation. Hope the "serious" $5000 was worth it.
Yes, that was their idea. And multiple ACORN employees were willing to help them.
If you can't see the difference between someone pretending to be involved in a child sex slave operation, and someone who is actually willing to help the child sex slave operation, you are indeed a moron. You can't really be that dumb, can you?
You wrote: "What evidence? What charge? Where has ACORN has been charged with anything?"
And I replied: The state of Nevada, douche bag.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/may/04/crimi...
You can't really handle the fact that your statement was just flat out wrong. Get over it, ACORN is finished, baby.
No, ACORN just routinely has corrupt, inept, and criminal employees. But that's not a systemic problem with ACORN. I mean, its not like they're responsible for the people they hire while they are working for them……. yeah.
Nevada…that $5000 fine. Hang on to that Skeeter. That can sooth that ACORN Derangement Syndrome. That whole $5000. FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. How freakin pathetic.
Haha, no, pathetic is making a false statement, someone calling you out on your false statement, and then trying to divert from that fact that you're just plain wrong. Now THAT is pathetic. You were wrong, get over it.
Yes skeeter…the misdemeanor charge in Nevada…you are correct oh wise one.
Maybe I did,… maybe I didn't.
The issue at hand?
I'm here seeing countless generalized criticisms of ACORN, President Obama, Eric Holder and any other person or organisation lumped together by those choosing their favorite confederations or conspiracies.
I think I have a valid point in finding it incredibly disingenuous all this outrage directed at an organisation whose mission is to aid the underpriviledged. One has to look at the good that the organisation does besides its failings or have atleast a viable alternative that accomplishes the same end. That is unless the end itself is of utter nonconcern by those critics.
That ACORN has been instrumental in registering minority voters. Minority voters more often vote democrat than GOP. The same targeted voters that the GOP has at times caged ( re: Kenneth Blackwell in Ohio, Kathryn Harris in Florida) no doubt people here with GOP sympathies probably resent ACORN for that fact.
I don't reject the criticism of individual ACORN staff showing a lack of professionalism or ethics (if indeed events are proven to be as they've been presented here)
But I don't believe for one second that this organisation's destruction warranted over its overhaul.
I believe its good and future good work earns it the benefit of a doubt.
And any outrage over any perceived lack of ethical standards should be extended to the numerous organisations and corporations that receive even greater amounts of government subsidies and contracts… yes, even corporate welfare. Go down the list and you'll find worse than what you accuse ACORN of.
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