Family Facing $4 Million in Fines for Selling Bunnies
by Bob McCartyAlmost nine months after a Missouri dairy was ordered to stop selling cheese made from raw milk, I share details of another hare-raising story from the Show-Me State: John Dollarhite and his wife Judy of tiny Nixa, Mo., have been told by the USDA that, by Monday, they must pay a fine exceeding $90,000. If they don’t pay that fine, they could face additional fines of almost $4 million. Why? Because they sold more than $500 worth of bunnies — $4,600 worth to be exact — in a single calendar year.
About six years ago, the Dollarhites wanted to teach their young teenage son responsibility and the value of the dollar. So they rescued a pair of rabbits — one male and one female — and those rabbits did what rabbits do; they reproduced. Before long, things were literally hopping on the three-acre homestead 30 miles south of Springfield, and Dollarvalue Rabbitry was launched as more of a hobby than a business.
“We’d sell ‘em for 10 or 15 dollars a piece,” John said during a phone interview Tuesday afternoon, comparing the venture to a kid running a lemonade stand. In addition, they set up a web site and posted a “Rabbits for Sale” sign in their front yard. Most customers, however, came via word of mouth.
In the early stages, some of the bunnies were raised and sold for their meat. Much further down the road, John said, they determined it more profitable to sell live bunnies at four weeks old than to feed bunnies for 12 weeks and then sell them as meat.
“We started becoming the go-to people” for rabbits in the Springfield area, John said. “If you wanted a rabbit, you’d go to Dollarvalue Rabbitry.” He added that the family even made the local television news just before Easter in 2008 for a report about the care and feeding of “Easter bunnies.”
Initially, the Dollarhites sold the large, white, pink-eyed variety of rabbits. Eventually, however, they switched to selling a couple of different varieties of miniature rabbits, the mating pairs of which were purchased from breeders across the state. Not only did their “show-quality” miniatures reproduce well, but they ate less and seemed to be more popular with theme park visitors and retail buyers.
During the summer of 2009, the Dollarhites bought the rabbitry from their son who had grown tired of managing it. They paid him what he asked for it, $200. Things kept growing, however, and the Dollarhite’s landed a pair of big accounts in 2009.
A well-known Branson theme park, Silver Dollar City, asked the Dollarhites to have them provide four-week-old bunnies per week to their petting zoo May through September. When the bunnies turned six weeks old, they were sold to park visitors. The Springfield location of a national pet store chain, Petland, purchased rabbits from the Dollarhites as well.
In the fall of 2009, the theme park deliveries ended for the year and the Dollarhites scaled back their operation. At about the same time, the folks at Petland asked the Dollarhites to raise guinea pigs that the store would purchase from them. No big deal.
By the year’s end, the Dollarhites had moved approximately 440 rabbits and grossed about $4,600 for a profit of approximately $200 — enough, John said, to provide the family “pocket money” to do things such as eat out at Red Lobster once in a while. That was better than the loss they experienced in 2008.
Then some unexpected matters began demanding their attention.
It’s an understatement to describe the Dollarhites as being “beyond surprised” when, in the fall of 2009, a female inspector from the U.S. Department of Agriculture showed up at the front door of the family home, wanting to do a “spot inspection” of their rabbitry. She said she had come across Dollarhite Rabbitry invoices while inspecting the petting zoo at Silver Dollar City.
“She did not tell us that we were in violation of any laws, rules, anything whatsoever,” John said, explaining that the inspector said she just wanted to see what type of operation they had. Having nothing to hide or any reason to fear they were doing anything wrong, the Dollarhites allowed the inspection to proceed.
John said he had to go to work at the family’s computer store, so Judy took the inspector to the back of their property where the rabbits were raised. There, the inspector began running the width of her finger across the cage and told the Dollarhites they would need to replace the cage, because it was a quarter-inch too small and, therefore, did not meet federal regulations.
Such a requirement came as a shock to the Dollarhites, because they had just invested in new cages to ensure the bunnies had a healthy amount of space to develop, John explained. Though raising dwarf breed varieties of rabbits which require less space, they had opted to purchase cages designed for “large breed rabbits” so the dwarfs would have plenty of room. All for naught.
Not only was the cage too small, according to the inspector, but she noted a small rust spot on a feeder and cited it as being out of compliance. When the Dollarhites told the inspector that rabbit urine causes the cages to rust and that they worked hard to keep the rabbits cages in top shape, she told them it didn’t matter. The rust spot would count as an infraction.
The inspector then asked how the cages were sanitized, John said, and Judy explained how she moved the bunnies to travel carriers and powerwashed the cages, using bleach when necessary. Afterward, she allowed the cages to dry in the sun before putting the bunnies back inside them.
The Dollarhites’ practice was much safer than that used by some breeders who used blow torches to burn hair and manure from the cages — a practice that can lead to rusting metal and produce toxic fumes from burning metal.
During the course of the spot inspection, John said, the inspector asked his wife if she and John would like to have their operation certified by USDA. Judy said she wasn’t sure and asked what certification would entail and if it would help them sell more rabbits. The inspector responded, telling her it would involve monthly inspections and was completely voluntary. The inspection ended with the inspector telling Judy that the Dollarhites rabbits looked healthy and well-cared for.
After the inspection, the Dollarhites didn’t hear from the USDA again until January 2010, John said, when he received a phone call from a Kansas City-based investigator from the USDA’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service.
“He called us and said, ‘I need to have a meeting with you and your wife,’” John recalled.
After explaining that he asked the investigator to come after the workday at the computer store had ended, John said he asked the investigator about the purpose of the meeting,
“He said, ‘Well, it’s because you’re selling rabbits and you’ve exceeded more than $500 dollars in a year,’” John said, “and I went, ‘Okay, what does that have to do with anything?’”
John said the investigator refused to discuss details over the phone and made it clear that rejecting his request for a meeting would be a costly error in judgment.
When Judy asked if they should have an attorney present, the investigator responded, saying, “Well, that might be a good thing.”
“At that point, we kind of set back, (wondering) what in the world is going on,” John said. Then he found an attorney who is also a farmer.
“I didn’t want a ‘city slicker,’” said John, a farmer himself until 1996 when he sold his farm to build a home in Nixa. “I wanted someone that had been around the agriculture and farm business.”
John found a guy and they met for the first time a couple of days later — at the same time both met the APHIS investigator in person at John’s home.
“The first thing (the investigator) said was ‘My name is so and so, I’ve been in the USDA for 30-plus years, and I’ve never lost a case,’” John recalled, continuing. “He said, ‘I’m not here to debate the law, interpret the law or discuss the law, I’m here just to do an investigation.’”
John said the investigator went on to explain that he would ask questions, write a report based on the answers and send that report to his superiors at the USDA regional office in Colorado Springs, Colo. The entire process was suppose to take about a month, and John was told to contact the regional office if he had not heard anything in six weeks.
“At this point in time, we were still not knowing anything about the law he was talking about,” John explained, adding that his rabbitry had never had any issues with any animal welfare agencies.
Eight weeks passed, and John decided to call Colorado Springs. Immediately, he was given the number to a USDA office in the nation’s capitol. He called the new number, and the lady he reached there was blunt, John said.
“She said, ‘Well, Mr. Dollarhite, I’ve got the report on my desk, and I’m just gonna tell you that, once I review it, it’s our intent to prosecute you to the maximum that we can’ and that ‘we will make an example out of you.”
When John once again tried to determine which law he and his wife had violated, he said the USDA lady replied, “We’ll forward you everything.”
“Ma’am, what law have we broken,” John said.
“Well, you sold more than $500 worth of rabbits in one calendar year,” she replied, according to John.
“Okay, what does that have to do with anything?” John countered.
The lady replied by saying there is a guideline which prohibits anyone from selling more than $500 worth of rabbits per year, John recalled, but she refused to cite any specific law and, instead, promised to send him the report containing details.
At that point, John said he called his attorney and was told not to worry about it, because he couldn’t find evidence of any law or regulation the Dollarhites had violated.
Soon after the meeting with the APHIS investigator and with the stress of the investigation hanging over their heads, John said he and his wife traded everything associated with the rabbit operation for other agricultural equipment.
At this point, some important facts about the manner in which the Dollarhites conducted their operation are worth reviewing:
The business was carefully conducted on the property of their Missouri home;
The business complied with all applicable state laws;
The bunnies were kept in large, clean and well-maintained cages; and
Not a single bunny was sold across state lines.
Recently, the Dollarhites received a “Certified Mail Return Receipt” letter (dated April 19, 2011) from the USDA informing them that they had broken the law and must pay USDA a fine of $90,643. Their crime? Violating violating 9 C.F.R. § 2.1 (a) (1): Selling more than $500 worth of rabbits in a calendar year.
At this point, Dollarvalue Rabbitry is expected to produced a $90,643 certified check to cover the fine issued by the Department of Agriculture. The USDA was, however, kind enough to provide in the letter the web address for a website — www.pay.gov — where they could go to pay their fine by credit card by May 23, 2011. Now, that’s convenient!
Based on an average price per rabbit sold being $10.45, the fine comes out to more than $206 per rabbit. In addition, the letter contains the following statement:
APHIS laws and regulations provide for administrative and criminal penalties to enforce these regulatory requirements, including civil penalties of up to $10,000 for each of the violations documented in our investigation.
If the threat contained in the letter is to be believed, the family could be fined as much as $10,000 per rabbit beyond the first 50 bunnies that netted the family its first $500. Do the math (390 rabbits x $10,000 each) and, if they don’t pay the initial fine, they could face additional fines totaling $3.9 million.
Needless to say, the Dollarhites stopped selling rabbits in January 2010 and are considering setting up a legal defense fund.
To see what the USDA has to say about the matter, read my follow-up post, USDA Stands Behind Hare-Raising Fine.
Hat tip: Bungalow Bill’s Conservative Wisdom







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It's time to reign in ridiculous regulations and put the clamp down on un-elected bureaucracy!
Effing bureaucrats.
Maybe the gov't could lighten up about the rabbits and regulate our southern border ?
And this is how they do it. By going after the little guy because it's easier to go after a law abiding citizen than to go after a big factory farm with lots of money and lawyers at their disposal.
And people who love big government think this is just fine (no pun intended). I am all for making sure that people aren't running "rabbit mills" and treating the animals improperly, but this is absolutely ridiculous. These unelected, extra-constitutional bureaucrats are so full of themselves and the power they wield that they are worse than a police state. These people, if everything reported is true, need to fight this as far as they can. The problem of course is that it will leave them financially destitute, not that the faceless drones in government care. Totally shameful and should be unlawful for the government to do this to people.
This is what happens when you have too big of a government, with too many employees, departments, etc. all trying to continually justify their existence. Did any of their rabbits hurt anyone? Did they find obvious abuse of animals? No. Glenn was right… I don't recognize my country anymore. Time to turn that around.
Spot Inspection = Pay Bribe, 90k in fines is for making a public employee do their job.
Mistake #1: Talking to the USDA
Mistake #2: Allowing the USDA onto your property
Yet, here we are again with an out of control nanny state federal agency worried about all things — "rabbits". Why is not the same agency using their time and resources to track down the thousands of "alleged" Pigford farmers who received thousands of dollars for so-called discrimination because they couldn't grow a simple houseplant if their life depended upon it? This agency needs a complete top to bottom overall. Unbelievable.
So i guess you can sell all the dead rabbits you want with no problems ?
Someone is out of there Effin mind…
Tar and feathers are what these bureaucrats need government has to be put in it's place…
I guess the money to pay off Shirley Sherrod and her "charity" has to come from somewhere. Thugs.
Well, sometimes the federal government has to completely destroy a few people to make a good example. Otherwise, nobody would fear them and our entire system of government would collapse into total anarchy.
People have to be held accountable. Or something.
The inspector (pathetic human being) 'ran the width of her finger' across the cage and was able to determine its exact dimensions and to discern a 1/4 inch discrepancy – what amazing powers! We can't have these scofflaws building cages 1/4 inch too small. Chaos would result.
Why do I get the feeling that the USDA is attracting, recruiting and training Little Hitlers with distinct PETA sympathies?
Government agencies should either be scaled WAY back or eliminated completely for this very reason, not to mention the money we taxpayers would save.
Rape and pillage…rape and pillage is the new progressive/liberal constitution How many more days till the election?
I'm tired of "hope and change". Screw the hope and we will definitely ex-change these idiots for someone with a bit of common sense.
And stop the influx of new DEMOCRATIC voters? Are you kidding?
And with absolutely no day in court the government says pay or we'll fine you some more.
Still no court date?
They know, they don't care.
What Phuckers. Fall of 2009 …The O Admin has aggressively told all Dept Sec'ys to go after any and every violation of the law that will produce Gov't Income in the form of Fines and Penalties. This is despicable as is Obama.
Yes, one of the greatest lies in the world. "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you!"
Right behind "The check is in your mouth."
Ultimately the only way to get back at these bureaucratic imbecile's is all stop working and paying taxes until we have them all on their knees. We start from zero and then we can work our way back up to some reasonable taxes and reasonable regulations.
It's out of control….
"Tell me 'bout the wabbits George, tell me 'bout the wabbits…………"
If they had gotten the "voluntary" certification and submitted to monthly inspections, this would not have happened. You don't pay your protection fee when they come calling, you get the book thrown at you. It's like a plot right out of an 80's movie.
Right….I forgot about the "Obama 2012" campaign…
Needs to be eliminated instead of overhauled..
They have screwed the family farmer out of business..
They tell the farmer what they can and can not plant..
They pay farmers not to plant..
How stupid is this entire picture??
Wow, their lawyer is an idiot. It took me two seconds on Google to find out that it is against the law to sell more than $500.00 worth of rabbits per year. The regulation is stupid but their lawyer should have known better or the family should have done their own research.
This is an intimidation-only gambit, the sort of thing the regulatory bureaucracy is notorious for. The Dollarhites are guilty of absolutely nothing. Their salvation is to make their case a cause celebre. Let's talk it up!
Why do we still have the USDA? They only screw up every program and activity they touch.
The Dollarhites are looking to set up a legal defense fund to fight this federal tyranny. By the way, anybody ever gotten close to a Tyson chicken farm on a hot summer day in August? It reeks so bad you don't even wish to breathe.
Want to talk about general welfare of animals, let's start there. Chickens living in such dirty conditions they must be pumped full of antibiotics just to survive, and it's all okay according to the animal loving minds at the USDA. I am not animal rights activist, but talk about the hypocrisy of the USDA when it comes to the "general welfare" of animals.
Anyone here still not convinced we live in a tyranny?
Hey ass bag regressive trollers. Where are you now?
Those folks should consider themselves lucky that they chose rabbits, instead of cats.
I can just see that headline, after the vice squad was called in…………
It would appear that the only creatures that reproduce faster than rabbits are government bureaucrats. Time to thin the herd, and I don't mean rabbits.
From the linked article: " So, we consider it very serious when there is an activity regulated under the Animal Welfare Act that is being conducted without a USDA license. Reason being, when individuals are licensed, USDA inspectors conduct periodic unannounced inspections of those individuals’ animals and facilities. It is during these inspections that our inspectors can see how the animals are being treated and handled. When unlicensed individuals conduct regulated activities, this hampers our ability to enforce the Animal Welfare Act and hampers our ability to ensure the welfare of their animals. If you don’t have a license, that means that we are not inspecting your facility and your animals, so we would have no idea how your animals are being treated."
Translation: We weren't getting any money out of this. If you don't pay us to harass you on a regular basis, we will get what is owed us out of you in one lump sum, while at the same time making an example of you. We couldn't care less about the rabbits.
In the 1770s, the pencil pushing bureaucrat troglodyte scum harrassing this family would have been tarred, feathered, had boiling water poured in their face and run out of the country. Ah, the good old days…
90% of what the Federal Government does needs to go away….. along with 90% of the Federal Civilian Workforce.
When did the motto of the government become "Stop the Little Guy" .
Just when you think it can't become any more Catch-22 bizarre, you see something like this.
Quasi-governmental nazis are the bane of our existance! They are sweaty little ogres who take pleasure in making everyone as miserable as they are…the litlle needle-dicked trolls!
He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
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The feds are the new triple George.
As I kept reading this story, it was just making me more P.O.'ed the further I got. Of course the FIRST thing that came to my mine (since I had also tried to start a small business too) was this –
And people have to wonder why it's so HARD to start a small business and to make it your lifetime achievement??? And these people were doing this as a SIDE business!!!!
But then I started to also read the comments, and they all come from the same thought area of FREE THINKING Americans. Why?!???!?!
But then I was also looking at the comments and not ONE Hack Lib Troll is in here defending this. Why not? This is was YOU keep backing and supporting when you push your "Prog/Socialist" candidates. And yet at the same time, you have NO quamms about using tax-payer money to pay people who COULD start a small self-run business and make a living at it, but they can't because the COST OF GOVERNMENT won't let them.
I really thought this was still a FREE America. I weep, as our Founding Fathers are, at the though of what we've become.
So here is one side of the story. An honest hard working salt of the earth family who just wanted to teach their little baglets the value of a dollar.What do you want to bet there is another side that you will never get to read on Breitbart.
Yeah, they should have hired a team of Philadelphia lawyers with all that money they were making. Then they could have known the law.
This. Makes. Me. FURIOUS.
Pray tell, what would that be?
Salad tosser!
Harvey couldn’t be reached for a comment.
The other side of the story? You mean how the Local #4756 Rabbit Union threatened these people? If you can dream it up it must be true my little simple minded progressive.
I believe when the USDA speaks of the general welfare of "animals," they mean "animals not owned by persons or corporations that can afford to hire a lobbyist."
Yeh, Punk I've never lost a case… because I never pick on anyone big enough to fight back!
Imagine if one of out ten bureaucrats left the government became a successful small businessman!!
Fudd needs to go after Foghorn Lakehorn!
Not "go away" but be "transformed" into private-sector-profit-motive entreprenuers.
God Bless Andrew Breitbart.
He exposes how minorities get $50,000 on up for contemplating farming plus having ethnic blood
People that do mess with farming can get fined beginning at 90,000 dollars.
WHY is there that LAW in the first place?!??!?!?!
That's the freakin' problem!!!!!!
A law that is written as vaguely as that one is, is open to interpretation. Since they did not make a profit of more than $500, technically they should not have reported it.
Either way, a $90,000 that could baloon to a $4,000,000 fine for something this piddly is far excessive.
If only their were bunny abortion clinics.
But that would be like recognition of their primary obligation under the organic law of the nation — don't expect any of that from this administration.
This is a very serious problem, it is wide spread.
A retired guy belonged to an orchid society. His hobby in orchids turned into a small business. He began importing on a small scale, rare orchids from outside the United States.
One night, a federal government swat team broke down his door, and rifled through his house, confiscated all his orchids, paper work, etc.
Then he was arrested. Charged with the crime of not filling out his import documents properly. This falls under the Treasury department, so the SWAT team was from the ATF.
All a misunderstanding? Hardly, the guy was taken to court, charged with a felony. This retired, late 60's year old man did not have the resources to fight the case, and is serving 2 years in jail. His wife said there life is in ruins.
You have no idea as to what laws you are breaking everyday.
Gentle Readers,
I will probably get ' flamed ' for this, but…..
….. this is the root cause of our economic problems. The ' Great Recession ", unemployment, federal deficit, etc.
Everyone discusses the Federal Reserve, CRA, synthetic derivates, credit-default swaps, etc., but this is the nonsense that is killing economic prosperity in the United States.
The USDA investigates rabbit sellers: the EPA declares spilled milk to be ' hazardous ', etc. 10,000 daily acts of stupidity.
Sincerely,
John Lepant Brighton CO
Great point. If you have enough money to stuff in a Congressman's pocket, the Federal agents will get off your back.
How do you justify $4 million in fines for $4600 in sales? This is tyranny. These people obviously had a good reputation as a breeder. They had features done on them by the local news, they were picked as the exclusive breeder for a theme park that continues to enforce family values in the community it serves, and they made sure aggressive bunnies were never exposed to a child to ensure the safety of the child. So go ahead and justify the fine. I dare you.
If memory serves, didn't the colonists come up with a simple and direct solution to take care of the tax collectors the king used to send around? Just sayin'.
Let this be a reminder, any time the federal government comes on your property, you let them know they are trespassing unless they have a warrant. If they still want to push themselves on your property, call you sheriff who has the authority to remove them. This family was too nice thinking knowing they didn't have anything to hide, and because of some unconstitutional laws that violate the interstate commerce clause, the USDA is prepared to make them out to be an example of why you must comply with this tyranny.
This is a good example of why we can no longer tolerate bureaucracies making laws.
That is a good question. What Constitutional authority does the federal government have to regulate and inspect a petting zoo?
BINGO!
Profit-driven entrepreneurs would fine Dollarhite a lot more than the Government.
The Law allowing such acts to happen needs to go away….. the Regulation needs to go away, the Jobs need to go away.
Paying the mob protection money would have been cheaper.
I think we can still save this situation.
We've just got the wrong bureaucrats in the wrong places.
Let's take all these zealous USDA inspectors and move them over to ICE.
And make these DC bunny-chasers into immigration court judges.
The other side of the swap would be good for the Dollarhites as well. After all, the immigration judges gave Obama's aunt a free pass after being here illegally (in subsidized housing) for four years.
Problem solved.
Unfortunately we can't put the government down like a bad dog.
I didn't mean profit-driven entrepreneurial USDA, I meant make them all Rabbit Farmers!!
Excuse my Language, but who is this USDA Duma@@ B@tch!
OK…Fine. They sold more than $500 in Rabbits in one year, against the Federal Regulation.
Shouldn't they at least received a warning to stop? The Federal Government is willing to make an example out of this couple (who made a profit of $200) ?
The Federal Government will not go after large corporations or influential people who break the law or fail to pay taxes. They won't go after the Welfare cheat or the illegal alien who sucks at the teat of Federal Handouts.
No…They will go after the middle class worker, the one who pays his taxes, obeys the law and does not have the weatlh nor the standing nor the political base to fight the charges.
Unless we make changes now, they will come for you and me…and they will win
Below is a copy of an e-mail I just sent to my congresswoman.
Today I read this article: http://biggovernment.com/bmccarty/2011/05/20/fami...
Can you please explain why the USDA is harassing two people who sold more than $500 worth of rabbits in one calender year? Can you please explain why the federal government is going after a small hobby business, run out of someone's home, for selling rabbits that never crossed state lines? Can you explain why it is illegal to sell more than $500 dollars worth of rabbits in a year? Or why the federal government should even care? Or why it is even conducting this costly witch hunt during a depression? Yes, depression.
The answer, of course, is no you cannot. I demand that you, as a representative of the people, call upon the USDA and the Obama Administration to end this persecution of private, law abiding citizens. I do not want an explanation for this investigation; I do not want a justification for it, because there is none. The US federal government has no business sticking its regulatory nose into the affairs of private citizens. If any government entity has any say over what is going on at the Dollarvaule Farm, it is the state and local entities.
It is time to do away with non-nonsensical government agencies like the USDA, as well as the Departments of Energy, Education, Commerce and Labor (to name just a few).
Thank-you for your time.
This is a result of leftists in government. Only a leftist democrat facist could do something as awful as these bureaucrats. This is what Obama is building: a state where you cannot turn around without being fined for breathing. And the fines will bankrupt you and your family for decades to come. And the stupid democraps wonder why no one will hire…
What do you want to bet that this tapeworm is trying to divert your attention from the trail of wreckage known as Uuhhhbama?
Can you say, "1967 borders," Zippy? Does God Himself even understand how much closer that pin-headed scheme of his gets us to nuclear Armageddon?
Everyone who is upset about this needs to flood Congressman Billy Long's office regarding this matter. Long obviously isn't aware of what is going on in his district beyond the special interest that is putting money in his pocket. Since he is the Dollarhite's Congressman, put pressure on him to get the USDA off these people's back.
Congressman Long's office phones are: (202) 225-6536, (417) 889-1800, (417) 781-1041,
And here I thought the purpose of the Department of Agriculture was to HELP farmers, not to to persecute them out of existence.
I hope they get this cleared up before Eric Holder becomes involved.
This is outrageous!
I guess everyone has forgotten the post I made a couple of months ago about the farmer from Az
who faced unimaginable fines due to the horrible (not) problem caused by his vehicles tracking dust
from a dirt road, onto a hi-way. I believe it was EPA that was after him, in that instance.
Two examples of how lil' o's administration is efforting to shut down food production in the USA.
Don't believe it can/will happen… you are an IDIOT! alGORE himself said in a speech he gave, ag
production could be done more efficiently outside the US. If you think that was just an offhand re-
mark… you're WRONG!!! IT IS ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE LEFT…get that in your head. He who
controls the FOOD, controls the MEN… (&women)
NO matter how ridiculous it sounds to folks who are able to "reason" in a rational manner (most of us),
this is one of their goals. NEVER Doubt it! What will you do, other than whine when price of your food
goes higher.
Remember the California water debacle? It will be replayed over and over, just with varying premises.
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Breitbart gave us the story. We'd have NO side at all if it weren't for him. The LSM wouldn't bother at all.
this is nothing. just wait until dickie durban's SB510 food takeover bill (btw, passed with the full support of the republican senate including coburn during the ram it through lameduck session last december) starts kicking in. the FDA, USDA, …, all of them will have a field day. the RINO's had a golden opportunity to stop this and they of course didn't lift a finger.
Bureaucrats SUCK !!!
Shut all Government agencies down and start over from scratch.
Oh and burn the USC "Code" it's too harsh to be used as the only thing its really good for. . . BUTT WIPE
Our federal government has become a criminal enterprise.
The sad fact is we live in an Liberal Oligarchy we just haven't accepted the truth of it yet.
Shut the b@st@rds down!!!
Hey anybody in the GOP paying attention up there in the District of Corruption ???
You are in love with every kind of tyranny.
Now, don't you dare go and actually DO anything, people, otherwise, Daddy spank!
You're right. But that doesn't change the fact the lawyer is an idiot for not researching to verify such a ridiculous law exists. Frankly, in this day and age, the Dollarhites are idiot'ish too for not doing the same research when they felt the heat on their backs. There is no excuse for such ignorance.
Granted, the whole thing is ridiculous. The law is ridiculous, the FDA for wasting our money chasing the case down is equally ridiculous. Bureaucrats run amok is what it is. Just friggin ridiculous!
Prove it – " Fall of 2009 …The O Admin has aggressively told all Dept Sec'ys to go after any and every violation of the law that will produce Gov't Income in the form of Fines and Penalties. "
It doesn't make sense and I wouldn't believe it without an inkling of proof. Without that, you're just pissing into the wind.
The government loves killing us with 'safety'.
Why would you get flamed for that? We all know it's true, but we need to get the right people in the right places to END all the alphabet agencies in the first place.
And a President that will sign and executive order saying that any "rule/regulation" that was not voted on by the FULL Congress and signed by the President is NULL and VOID and cannot be enforceable as "law", because it's NOT A LAW. Only the Congress and write and make laws – agencies CAN NOT (yes – and that also goes for rules and regs).
Agencies were created ONLY to enforce what the Congress passed and the President signs, not to "create" their OWN RULES.
You get that feeling becuase you're as stupid as they are. Its what you would do if you were in charge, just the opposite method of idiocracy.
And I agree with the extreme depth of how ridiculously stupid this whole thing is – the law itself, the investigators for pursuing it… But your last sentence there shows you to be as big an a-hole moron as they are.
I guess they gave their kids a lesson all right. Don't go into business in this business climate.
No, no. Shirley's money comes from your taxes. Fees and penalties money is used for drugs and hookers for conservative pols. Everyone knows that.
In answer to your first question, dogs and cats are explicitly excluded from this regulation
9 C.F.R. § 2.1 (a)(3)(ii)
"Any person who sells or negotiates the sale or purchase of any animal except wild or exotic animals, dogs, or cats, and who derives no more than $500 gross income from the sale of such animals to a research facility, an exhibitor, a dealer, or a pet store during any calendar year and is not otherwise required to obtain a license;"
BTW, I never heard of this either before today and I think it's ridiculous. Who decided that $500 is a meaningful threshold?
"… they had broken the law and must pay"
Um, isn't that what courts are for, to determine guilt and hand out punishment? Since when does the USDA get to cut out the middle-man? Where's the trial lawyers lobby when you need them?
Very good point!!!!
Tyranny is a bureaucrat!
Stand together or fall separate.
WHERE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES?
And now we are in short supply of wheat, and Obummer has promised to send it to the middle east!
'Scuse me??
They didn't hire the lawyer when the son wanted to START THE BUSINESS. Why would they (or YOU for that matter) think you'd need a lawyer for raising rabbits? And as a VERY small business? And the "heat" on their backs was the FREAKIN' FINE!!!!!! No "warning" or anything like that.
/sigh at reading comprehension.
Someone shouldn't have to consult a freakin' LAWYER every single time they want to do something to earn a LITTLE money. Sheeeeze. Or need a CPA to "comply" with tax law.
Congressman Billy Long's office phones are: (202) 225-6536, (417) 889-1800, (417) 781-1041
Call his office and demand he get the federal government off the back of his constituents.
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