Tides Foundation: General Support, Major Concern
by Bret JacobsonNot enough people know about the Tides Foundation, which is one of the original “philanthropic” donation launderers for donors who don’t want to be tied to fringe activist groups. Frankly, there’s too much to tell, but they’re the sugar daddy for ACORN (whose founder, Wade Rathke, is intricately linked within Tides official leadership).
[I'm including some grants of note below -- What will you find?]
A look at their 2008 tax return, 160-plus pages, reads like a directory of the New Left. I’ve pulled out the donations to ACORN groups and Big Labor’s Working America Education Fund (not many people know unions take in ostensibly charitable donations) and one theme is clear: “general support” seems to be a popular phrase. Another theme: notice that states receiving money are critical to election-year success for Democrats. And finally, notice just how much money is being thrown around.
ACORN, Inc – 100,000 Latino voter registration and engagement canvass
ACORN International – 100,00 general support
ACORN Institute
49,500 – general support
25,293 – general support
10,000 – general support
Project Vote
275,000 – 2007-08 Election Administration Program
225,000 – election administration work in Arizona, Florida, and Pennsylvania
115,00 – general support
100,000 – 2008 Voter Participation Program
100,000 – Election Administration Program
100,000 – general support
100,000 – civic engagement work in New Mexico
75,000 – general support
65,000 – general support
53,086 – voter registration program
50,000 – Voter Participation Program
48,000 – nonpartisan Get Out The Vote work
35,000 – general support
30,000 – general support
25,000 – general support
10,000 – general supportWorking America Education Fund
261,661 – general support
245,000 – general support
200,000 – civic engagement in Ohio
125,000 – organizing in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Colorado, and Maine
115,000 – general support
100,000 general support
65,006 – general support
30,000 – general support
30,000 – General support
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Why aren't these criminals in jail?
I quit using tide over a year ago do to this. I'm using Gain detergent. .
Thank you for the article.
Back in the fall, I posted alot of information on the Tides Foundation and Drummond Pike. They read like the "who's who" of the liberal left. They are dangerous, and a threat to our society.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderprofile….
And these libs have the unmitigated gall to complain about SCOTUS Citizens United decision. They complain about this decision opening the door to corporate and 'foreign' funding of USA campaigns.
Bottom line,,,the UNIONS and George Soros do not want competition in their act of buying government officials. This is the group that bought Obama's ticket.
Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of Sen. John Kerry, has financed the secretive Tides Foundation to the tune of more than $4 million over the years.
Isn't odd how the wife of a US senator, who shot himself in the butt and then put himself up for a Silver and a Purple, supports this crowd of Marxists? They deserve each other.
You too ?
Tides. Everything Tides comes into contact with has a distinctive stench.
I agree they are dangerous. A cowards refuge. If the Fair Tax (national retail sales tax with prebate) passes then will all these Non profit organizations will not have to report ?
People are always talking about organizations in conspiracy theories such as the Bilderburg Group, the Bohemien Grove, the Illuminati, etc. I think it is time they started talking about organizations such as "The Tides Foundation", "The Apollo Alliance", "The Center for American Progress" – pretty much anything that George Soro has a hand in.
Amazing, isn't? If you read the list your mind wants to explode. I wonder how much of the money was funnelled to Obama for his election? Off topic but reading Drudge repor:, all our emails are now being monitored by DHS.
This Friday's news is depressing me.
Soros and Drummond road map: http://www.muckety.com/Query?SearchResult=4166&am...
Please take note on ACORN's Wade Rathke (former director at Tides Foundation)
Oh what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive. – Sir Walter Scott (Marmion, 1808)
The Tides Foundation. San Francisco – Kremlin West
"In 1934 The Soviets opened a consulate in San Francisco, a city their intelligence operatives code-named "Babylon" and their lone official outpost on the West Coast. The consulate became a cover for the NKVD—the Soviet spy agency that eventually became the KGB—under their rezident, or base official, Grigory Kheifetz, code-named "Brown," and also served as a supply line for Party organizers and the state's growing number of Sovietophiles, including Lincoln Steffens —the most famous of all. "
'Hollywood Party' Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley, Forum/Prima Publishing, 1998.
More on Lincoln Steffens (notice the Berkeley connection): http://www.answers.com/topic/lincoln-steffens
Vote with your money, never buy a Heinz product, I haven't in years (bought Heinz).
Tides Foundation – Enemies of Freedom.
George Soros – Man Behind the Curtain.
Barry Obama – Useful Idiot.
Yep. I keep a list of stuff to boycott. Tide, Snuggles, Sargento cheese too name a few.
McDaddy watch has it right-the media hides the FACT that the horseface wench Tereza Godzilla Heinz Scary is the largest single financier of the Tides foundation. Heres what Id like to ask. When is the HEINZ family(yes of catsup fame) going to cut this bolshevik Pos off? Shes no longer married to John Heinz. This sounds just like Arianna Huffington, who received most of her money in a divorce settlement with her ex. Personally, Im wondering why someone hasnt taken the scumbag Soros and hang the POS for TREASON. Or at least deport him to say ,Saudi Arabia. Im sure they would love the traitor to his religion, his country and every country whose economy he has collapsed.
Cowboy Logic, they probably will not let this fly, but listen: Marxism is anti-messiah, Karl Marx said so! Obama is Marxist, he said so! Thus, Obama is the prophetical anti-messiah! That's through deduction, not induction!
Victor,
interesting deduction. Would that then make Barry anti-Christ like?
The root of this evil, they, The Community
OrganizersThiefs, are achieving this through our Tax Dollars and from the pockets of those they are claiming to be helping. While these modern day thiefs steal from us and those in need and are crippling this country, Community Thiefs, are being exposed, Dossiers are being drafted and the Score Board has been turned on. Please do not think we are not keeping score!I can comprehend how these shell organizations are re-routing donations as a means for other organizations to disguise involvement with other groups. It's the ever present shell game. The problem is that we have elected officials facilitating, participating and even providing cover for these activities. Moreover some are even earmarking funds for these same organizations. This behavior goes well beyond simple impropriety and borders on treason. The corruption runs so deep and broad that the White House itself feels comfortable offering to appoint the relatives of elected officials to prestigious positions in exchange for votes on legislation.
These snakes may not realize it but they are being watched very closely. There will be a reconning
If by amazing you mean pathetic. I am imagining the fire storm that would result from any action taken against those of us who exercise our right to free speech on these sites. Keep your head up, November will be here before we know it!
soros is getting ready to pull the plug on the EU and Greece soon. We are next $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.He wants it all. Do not give up the fight!!!!!!!!
Soros is a billionaire who views U.S. politics as a sport. I think it is like a game to him. Manipulate and disrupt. Pure evil and like DocScanlon posted, man behind the curtain.
Another example. Bloomberg. Tell me he ran for mayor of NYC because he needs feels a deep patriotic duty to serve the public. It is all about power and manipulation.
You know they are evil when they could simply retire, grab a fly rod and spend some time in a stream catching trout. Hell, if I had the money, that is where I would be.
Interesting that the Soviets would even "code" name San Francisco as Babylon. They say it takes one to know one and in this instance the "code name" is very fitting as the Babylon of the Bible is a den of iniquity and a haven for the vile. Include Hollywood and it makes even more sense. It's also important to note that the push for legalizing same sex marriage started in California possibly even in San Francisco itself.
This is what awaits the Whore of Babylon.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revel...
NO! Not Sargento cheese!!? AAARGH. LOve the stuff and now I can't use it in good conscience!
I'm allergic to Tide. Had to quit using it ten years ago. Maybe prophetic? Dunno.
Soros is a traitor-Jew, uber-socialist, who makes his money off of crony capitalism and manipulation of the markets. By controlling Obama, he can control the governments, markets and money flows of the USA.
European socialism has devolved into that kinds of Crony capitalism, like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. If businesses do what Obama wants, he protects them, and they turn into slush funds and reward positions for their political elites.
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One has to remember that when one gets into bed with George, the end up with Soreholes!
Read my other reply to you on the post about Reason TV…
The Rothchilds also belong to that religion or something similar. There is a whole write up on that in the British archives. The same Rothchilds that govern our Federal reserve and our money. Almost makes the book Demons and Angels a reality when you start connecting the dots.
We could only hope for the FairTax to pass……..no they would not have to report, because nobody will…..but……WE will have plenty of money to combat them and they wouldn't be able to buy legislation that adds to the tax code….
Tides is only a name and does not refer to the soap.
Besides, Gain and Tide are both owned by Proctor and Gamble.
Believe it or not, being a progressive is not illegal yet! WE RUN FREE!!!!
OK so it doesn't refer to soap. Still we need to keep track of these companies because they do donate to Obama and promotes his agendas. Gain is owned by Proctor and Gamble too? Crap. Sigh, now I gotta find something else.
Believe it or not, there was a time when being a stinking Commie ( which IS what "progressives" actually are ) was illeagal here in the USA. ;^)
…and it should be again, if the Polish are wise enough to do it, so should we…
I was wondering why nobody had posted anything about this bitch and her close ties with Tides.
I'm glad that I decided to read all oif the posts, before posting th same info you did.
I don't understand why this is such "news" to so many, now, when TIDES and Teresa Heinz Kerry were all over the news and all over the net back in '04.
Exactly so !
Good grief, why has America so fallen to this level, when for all of the 20th century, anarchists, Marxists, Socialist, and Communists were considered to be vermin ?
If you ( general, plural version ) haven't taught your kids that all of these groups are vile, evil people, you've abnegated your most important job! Come on people…………………get with it !
The morons who wear tinfoil from head to toe and talk shrilly about those organizations you mentioned, are blindingly ignorant of the REAL dangerous organizations/foundations such as TIDES. They'd much rather scare themselves blind, worrying about boogeyman chimera delusions, that have nothing whatsoever to do with the fore real dangers and conspirators of real life evil.
Just waiting for season to open. Don't think there'll be a bag limit.
There's no "bag limit" as these animals need to be culled…………………ASAP; they've overbred !
Soros is a real life James Bond movie villain. Where's James when we need him?
Being ethical is a tough job. Good luck.
Bloomy has a NAPOLEON COMPLEX, while Soros is PURE evil; there is a difference !
Yes, he is a Bondian villian; hadn't thought about that before, but you're right!
There's no "James Bond" in America due to what Frank Church did to our CIA and "intelligence programs.
Once again, the crowd at Big Government once again proves to the world that YOU are the extremists and fellow travelers of the John Birch Society and Glenbeckistan. The interesting thing is that real conservatives at the National Review and other mainstream conservative organizations are discovering the snakes in their midst. Very soon, the people that are going to be coming after YOU are the mainstream conservatives.
Looking at Waxman, I'm sure they breed outside of their species as well.
I'm tempted to take up a collection and hire a Hit team to deal with this evil character.
Kerry was in 'Nam when I was. If I knew then, what I do now, I'd have fraged his traitorous ass.
Are you familiar with the TWILIGHT ZONE ?
There's one episode, which takes place on New Year's Eve, in New Orleans, where the nasty family members of a rich, goodhearted man is dying, have to put on masks and at the end, when the clock strikes midnight, he dies and they are allowed to take off the masks. Well, Waxman looks just like one of those horrible masks, whose ugly, distorted facial features imprint themselves onto the faces of those who wore them.
Is that the best you can do; Bookie? ROTFLOL
The Birtchers are and always have been nuts and Beck is a LOSERTARIAN hysteric.
OTOH, YOU are a smarmy, rather pathetically stupid MARXIST, whose talking points are out of date.
I actually do remember that episode. Remember that movie with Karen Black, where she was chased by a Voodoo doll with a butcher knife? Kinda looks like the first lady, ya think?
Like I said, he's a real life Bondian villain, and needs to be dealt with extreem prejudice.
O has a lot of purchasing power behind him, aye?
How ya bee Missy8s…..
I'm always amazed when proggie people say that 'real conservatives' should accept 'communism/sociaIism/Marxism/progressivism' as moral equivalents to freedom.
They love to portray them as though they should be equally accepted as valid forms of government when those ideologies clearly represent the purest of evils.
There is no equivalent to American liberty and capitalism anywhere in the world and it needs to be defended from attack and to the death if need be, especially from sociaIist schemers…
I look at it like this, the Tides Foundation is the boiler room of the vast left wing conspiracy.
That's about right…
Very good CCB!
The purchasing power is of course ill gotten graft from a foreign convicted felon that was renowned a Nazi sympathizer but of course he's a progressive, so they'll just overlook those 'tiny' facts…
It's a convenient little world the proggies live in with no responsibilities and no consequences, God I can't wait for November!
what is with 95% of the money transfers being INTERNATIONAL WIRES?
can some one 'splain this one?
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Well fellow patriots, we must learn from Tides and other left-wing operations. We need to adopt some of there tactics and attack them with there own weapons….this is war…there is an attempt going on here to take America from inside…a coup….We are in a fight for the very soul of the U.S.A. We must fight a smart fight and stay vigilant at all times…spead the truth brothers and sisters of America….never surrender..
I'm a huge TZ fan…………….always have been.
Oh yes, I remember that very bad "horror" movie with Karen Black; a far too funny/campy movie to be scary !
Unlike in Europeans, Americans, for the most part, have never really fallen for the call of ANARCHISM/MARXISM/SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM and hopefully never shall; though sadly, far too many have.
Any kid who comes home proclaiming that he/she is now a X ( whichever form of idiocy is the current flavor of the month…………including an Obamabot ), should be cut off without a red cent; I agree !
Even the most intricate webs often end up ensnaring their creators.
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Donors to the Tides Foundation are supporting a Marxist Organization that is working for the downfall of America and Constitutional Government.
Traitors may ultimately be hunted down and terminated with extreme predjudice by American Patriots. These people are maggots, socialists, progressive Marxist Communist Bastards. Shame if their names become public and they are “outed” publicly as being Communist Traitors of America.
Why is George Soros not in hiding?
Soros is a very dark and nefarious character. From what I've read, he is of Jewish background. However, during WW II, he turned other Jews over to the Nazis with the promise that he would receive some of the lost assets of those Jews he turned in.
I have an acquaintance that was raised in a religion called Luciferianism, and he has assured me that Soros is a practitioner of that religion. He should know, because a close relative of his is the world-wide head of this religion. Soros says he is atheist. One way or the other, he is getting his inspiration from the Demon of the Depths!
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Soros is, and can be, a soft target.
Wow…just Wow!
What an idiot….
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ahem sir, I think the post directly before your, might be helpful….
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Actually, being a Communist never was illegal. The Palmer raids and HUAC notwithstanding, there still is this nutty concept(s) called freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, etc.
I know it may be a hoot to think otherwise, but the President isn't a socialist and neither are progressives. They simply differ w/you on the degrees of restraint that should be put on the free market. In fact you on the right and some of us nutty folks on the left could probably have a fascinating conversation about this if you didn't start frothing at the mouth about "socialism" (not to mention "Luciferiansm – that made me giggle) and to be fair, we didn't assume you were all a bunch of inbred yokels.
Oh deary me, so you are really THAT ill educated. You do need to take a few courses in basic American history; though you can always start bu educating yourself, by reading about what was called "THE RED SCARE", in the early part of the 20th century. But you could go back a bit farther and investigate the Marxists and the deportation of Emma Goldman and others of her ilk. ;^)
"Luciferianism"? Who, prat tell, besides YOU, brought that up here?
"BROADWAY" (?), Bob? A wannabe "artiste", or a street seller thug?
Obama IS, at the least, a Socialist; but he's also got that overlay of post colonialism tribalism…..a la Mandela, Mbeki, Zuma, Mugabe, Kenyata, and Amin.
You want to have a "fascinating" conversation with someone on the right? Then you'll either have to find a righty who is as badly educated as you are, or you will have to learn a whole lot more, than you now know, because you aren't up to that "conversation" with me or any number of other CONSERVATIVES, for it to be considered something "fascinating"!
And as far as "inbred yokels" go……..that's actually what most lefties are; Bobby.
And thus the tide has receded, to your gain…
The only was that these rats are going to be outed is by continuing to request for any and all open records and posting them for the world to see. The Tides Foundation like so many others sprinkle in a few organizations they help support that are children in need or some third world nation just to seem legit, but it is only a front for their real business at hand which is to fund themselves and the leftist power grab.
ALWAYS check any charity group out before handing them over a single dime; you don't even know where your money is really ending up.
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Actually, you're mistaken. Goldman was deported for "sponsoring direct overthrow of the gov't" – as in the Anarchist Exclusion Act of 1918 – but it was not ILLEGAL to be a communist.
As far as Luciferianism goes – I couldn't make that up if I tried. Go back and read the comments. One of y'all said that Soros was a Luciferian.
And again, here's the problem. I'm trying to start a dialogue, but you'd rather make fun of my name, claim I'm uneducated, and make a baseless claim of "Post-colonial tribalism" w/r/t Obama. If I'm wrong, why can't you simply contradict my points and do so in a civil manner?
That was my point – It's really hard to have an actual conversation when both sides quickly degenerate into name-calling. Oh well.
Here's the "Luciferian" comment from a poster a few clicks down.
"I have an acquaintance that was raised in a religion called Luciferianism, and he has assured me that Soros is a practitioner of that religion. He should know, because a close relative of his is the world-wide head of this religion. Soros says he is atheist. One way or the other, he is getting his inspiration from the Demon of the Depths!"
That you are poo pooing the "post colonialism" statement proves that you are ignorant of the facts. I suggest that you look into "post colonialism", tribalism, as well as BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY !
Then you can study up on Kenyan politics, Odinga, and the recent politics of South Africa; for starters, though please go for original sources and stay away from the MSM of the West ( Europe and America ), as well as Nelson Mandela's auto-bio, which is lies and propaganda.
One can't have any kind of a "meaningful" debate, with someone who knows nothing about the subject at hand, which is why I ridiculed you. What's the matter, don'/t appreciate the Alinsky way, when used against you? ;^)
And FYI…………………… my use of the term "post colonialism" is far from "baseless", since it comes directly from Obama's books.
You like to smear everyone because one person used the term "LUCIFERIAN" ? Then I should be able to smear YOU, for cause, using all of the idiotic crapola used to demean, impugn, and smear GOP pols and their supporters………………..right? Shall I begin, or is this factual, refutational reply enough to make you realize just how out of your depth you are?
Let me keep it simple. If you're right, there's no need to call me stupid or say I know nothing or am uneducated or whatever. Simply point out where I'm misinformed with facts and move on.
I'll show you what I mean – I didn't smear everyone my mentioning the "Luciferian" comment. To recap what occurred – you said no one in this thread made that claim that and I showed you where someone did. In my original post, I didn't demean EVERYONE by bringing it up. I simply stated that those kinds of claims are counterproductive to actual dialogue. And by your disbelief that someone on this board had said that, it seems to me that you agree. Am I wrong?
Two – You compared Obama to Amin, et al. and implied that what he's doing now as US President is similar to the way that post-colonial African dictators function(ed). That's a fairly extreme claim. What actual policy/act do you have that backs that up? Merely saying "you don't know anything about it" isn't an actual point, you know.
Again – I'm sorry if you think I'm stupid or misinformed, but you're not actually debating any issues or responding with facts. You're resorting to name-calling and then justifying it by saying my "side" does it all the time. I haven't called anyone any names throughout this back-and-forth. In fact, I attempted to mock those on the left who dismiss the right w/name calling when I invoked "inbred yokels".
The original "conversation" we were having is over whether or not it was ever illegal to be a communist. Now the point you could have made to refute mine is that while yes, the Alien and Sedition Acts etc. didn't make Communism de facto illegal, it was a de jure attempt to shut down the rising Bolshevik sympathies among the US left. But no, you chose not to refute my point. Right?
No, it's not false civility. I'm actually being civil. If you want to say I'm not, fine. Not much I can do about that.
Let me see if I can discuss your actual points. The appointing of "Czars" is in no way similar to the governing policies of African dictators, Communist or otherwise. They're special advisors that started under Reagan. If you want to compare Reagan, H. W Bush, Clinton and W to African dictators too, fine.
Two how is he "coddling ignoring criminals?" If you mean mirandizing the underwear bomber, that's FBI S.O.P. I'm not particular well-versed in the debate over vouchers, but I can tell you this: from my experience w/those teaching in the NY Public School System, the voucher program is incredibly problematic – not for the good it does to those in the voucher program (it does), but the detriment it does to those still in the Public School System.
Now as far as your larger point about the ANC et al. You point out that there's been some seriously nasty, thuggish, even downright criminal behavior in Arica over the last 50 years or so. I agree one hundred percent. But then you make a pretty specious claim – Saying Obama/his "inner circle" = The Daley Machine = The Black Panthers = The Nation of Islam. Come on man, that's just not true. His father and mother were pretty radical. That's true. But Obama isn't his mom and pop, just as I assume you are not your parents. Seriously – what "radical" thing has Obama done as President? Raised taxes? Increased the troops in Afghanistan? Has he set forth a single-payer plan for Healthcare? Has he repealed "Don't ask don't tell?" Has he reinstated the Glass-Steagall Act? Has he imposed ANY new restrictions on the banks?
He's been a pretty standard, centrist-brand Democrat. Believe me, I'd thought I was getting a far more lefty/progressive President when I voted for him
And "The Commie stuff". Sigh, he's not a communist. I super-swear.
I generalize and you complain, I write about specific, detailed facts and you 1) change the topic/ignore my point completely ( D.C. VOUCHERS are something quite different and removed from "vouchers", which don't exist , in N.Y.C., which you are completely unaware of anyway and the big teacher's union agiprop in NYC is CHARTER SCHOOLS ) 2) are completely and utterly ignorant of what I have written about !
The more you post, the more you prove everything and much more, that I have claimed about you. You ARE massively ignorant, are a passive-aggressive whinger, and you are incapable of debate.
I write criminals…………………you go directly to terrorists, who aren't "criminals" at all, but stinking TERRORISTS AND/OR TERROR PLANNERS !
All of the tax cheats and worse, in Obama's administration and those who backed out of accepting jobs with him him are CRIMINALS ! Gates committed a crime; not a violent one, but a crime nonetheless. I can go into more details, but why should I? You will either completely ignore what I post or change the subject.
You apparently ( like a sore thumb, kind of apparently ) know less than nothing whatsoever about African history and you don't know much American history either. Politics isn't you're forte, your reading comprehension skills are almost nonexistent, and your talking points don't cover what I pots, though you use them anyway.
Wee Broadway Bobby, you're a fraud and childish to boot.
You can't "swear" that Obama isn't a Commie. You don't know the man, know virtually nothing about him, have no idea what his policies are, nor can you even quote him. He's all for the redistribution of wealth; that's MARXISM and his takeover of the auto industry is Communistic/Fascistic and don't even try to make the claim that Fascism is a "right of center" philosophy, because it isn't.
His putative father was not just a far lefty, but so was his father.
Barry's mother and her father and Frank Marshall Davis were all so far left and yes, Communist, that it's a wonder little Barry didn't go to a Commie summer camp, as did David Horowitz and his contemporary RED DIAPER BABIES did.
Obama claims in his books, that in college ( and beyond, actually ) he went looking for and surrounded himself with MARXISTS, COMMIES, and the most radical students he could find. He was recruited by and taught by Saul Alinsky proteges.
Valerie Jarrett's ex-father[-in-law was not just a stinking Commie, but one of Frank Marshall Davis's BFF, when both were living in Chicago, in the 1940s. Jarrett has taken Obama under her wing ( Michelle as well ) from early adulthood on.
But nooooooooooooooooooooooo, according to you, Barry has absolutely NO tendencies towards Communism in any shape, manner, or form, whatsoever. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahah
Go away kid…………………you are ignorant, stupid, and a self proclaimed faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar lefty. The simple truth is, if you aren't 16 ( and that's being super generous ), you're a case of arrested development, who needs to find someplace to "debate" at the same level, which isn't me, nor most posters on the BIG sites.
Go back to MediaMatters, the HuffPo, or your local teen hangout, you poseur.
This is getting really silly, so let me leave you with one thought, if you're so sure you're right, why is it necessary for you to call me "immature, childish, stupid, a fraud, a poseur, inferior, etc." Your argument should suffice, correct?
And let's say that I "know nothing", wouldn't, instead of insulting someone want to educate a person as to the reasonability of their side of the argument's points? Instead of say ad hominem attacks?
Nevermind, really.
Thank you, thank, THANK YOU, for once again proving that you are just a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar lefty troll and one who can't debated, because he is so far out of his depth, that he drowned a day ago.
I posts facts, you ignore them all. If you truly wanted to "learn", you'd ask me at least one question and/or do a quick, down & dirty GOOGLE to use to refute me with, but you've done neither.
You can't handle being treated as you deserve, can you ? I've thrown you for a loop and that's evident. So run along and perhaps, somewhere, you'll find someone who'll fall for your line and excruciatingly horrendous "style", someday. ;^)
Throwing it all back in my lap is doing precisely what you are accusing me of doing, but worse. If you knew what I was referring to, you should have refuted me!
The ANC is a Communist/post colonial/tribal political organization. Nelson Mandela was and still is a card carrying Commie. Thabo Mbeki, Mugabe's protege, is also a Commie, as is Zuma, who has a more obvious TRIBAL persona.
Mandela comes from the Xhosa tribe.
The Zulus captured many Xhosa, brought them into South Africans as slaves, and the Mandela still holds animosty against the Xhosa for that history, as well as the fact that the Zulus were completely against the ANC. In order to win the presidential election, the Mandelas and the ANC went after the Zulus, pitted brother against brother, intimidated, tortured, and murdered many of them, "converting" a largish portion of them to the ANC side……….which brings us to Zuma, a traitror to his fellow Zulus.
The comparisons between just the ANC and its members to the Daley machine, the NOI and NEW BLACK PANTHERS, as well as Obama's own inner circle, is glaringly obvious, as are Barry;'s actions as president. And then there is his supposed biological father's political positions, as well as his putative cousin, Odinga……whom he illegally campaigned for, in Kenya, whilst still a sitting Senator.
You want actual, detailed, governing comparrisons? WHY DON'T YOU KNOW ANY ?
The Czars is one such, so is the lefty polices Obama espouses, as well as the coddling/ignoring of criminals. Promises of better education and then allowing the dissoving of the school vouchers for the D.C. minority kids. There is so much, yet you appear to have no knowledge of any of this.
I could have gone into the Commie stuff; however, you are insincere and throwing in the "inbred yokel", itg was obvious that you are a passive-aggressive troll, just looking for a fight…………………..NOT looking for a "civil debate" of any kind. So that is what I gave you; kid.
And you're still agt it…………………………trolling for a flame war, though couched in false civility.
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Yeah, usually I try to talk people down from doing anything rash. I got nothing on this one.
Many people do go overboard on things they can't back up, but I wouldn't just dismiss the international implications of the GSoro network. His fingerprints are all over the "color" revolutions. I may be blowing smoke, but no way did he crash the pound and live to tell about it, without friends on high.
I've asked an associate of mine, who was in the SAS. He just put a finger up to his lips and looked over his shoulder.
I have no doubt, no proof either, that we are witnessing it here. Soros, by way of his books, laments being insufficiently infiltrated into the Soviet Union prior to collapse to fully exploit the situation. When you look at the web of subversive groups he's involved with, it doesn't look like he's going to repeat that mistake here. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProf...
Soros has crashed or devalued many different currencies ( he's trying to crash the Euro now and burst the gold BUBBLE as well ) and has been convicted of insioder trading in France, for which he was convicted in absentia. But I wasn't discounting Soros in any of my posts; quite the contrary.
What I was trashing were those who go all weird on organizations and fraternal societies ( the Trilats, Buildyourownburgers, Skull&Bones, the Masons, Bohemian Grove, etc. ), yet completely ignore Soros and others who truly ARE conspirators.
I have responded to every point you made. Look back at what was written starting w/the "Communism was Illegal trope". You ignored it.
I asked you to stop flinging personal invectives and you couldn't/refused to. So no, I'm not going to continue "conversing" with someone who can't be bothered to show even a modicum of respect.
Got it now, slappy?
No, fraud, you have ignored at least 99.8% of the facts I posted and you are still replying to me, in your own fashion; far lefty-boy…..Obama isn't far enough left for you.
But your pathetic passive-aggressive style is still front and center.
Just get ovber yourself, kid! ;^)
Wow Red, you're a really sad little monkey of a man aren't you. Can't seem to resist flinging sh*t at people.
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