Global Warming Fringe Is Coming For Your Pet
by Bret JacobsonWhen it comes to global warming alarmists’ far-Green fringe, it’s not just chickens and cows that harm the environment. Because Fido feeds and Kitty craps, you may also have to kill your pet. See more here and here, and enjoy the latest cartoon.
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Sacrifices have to be made! In the spirit of these findings, let’s kill the liberals pets first …come Fido, you must die for our Barry, blessed be his name, and the obese one, Owlgore!
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All I have to say, is to quote Charlton Heston, "I'll give you my gun (and puppy) when you take it from my cold, dead hands." Bring it on!
"Anyone trying to save the planet by offing my dog will find their carbon emissions permanently reduced to zero."
I have to concur on this comment! Same goes for attempting to off my two little kitties!
I wonder how many pets Al Bore has, er, had?
That is the last thing politicians dare not touch. Americans loves their dog and they even call it Joe.
I guess it doesn't matter, the death panel will kill me first!! The pups will be depressed in my absence anyway…
Bret Jacobson, the anti-intellectualism you are pushing on "the base" is disturbing at best. But even more disturbing is the rabid enthusiasm and unquestioning obedience with which they devour it.
These people are Professors???? Environmentalists ARE the problem. They take a falacious argument and ramp it up to global proportions and ASSume they are right. My solution is to take all the environmentalists and send them to Jonestown and make sure there is plenty of coolaid available. Let them create their 'sustainable' environment there. These people have way to much time on their hands. Kick them off their tenure and make them work for a living.
You buy this sh-t? Are you one of the enviro's? Or are you just here to spout typical liberal talking points? The people you pretend to support are by all accounts total whack jobs, the same ones who support abortions but oppose capital punsihment for convicted killers. I only wish your mother held the same baby killing belief that you seem to embrace.
It's time to apply Carbon Offsets on the mouths of Reid, Pelozi, Waxman, Markey, and Gore for spreading their Global Warming propaganda BULLS$!T. We all know that BULLS$!T also contributes to the so-called Global Warming rhetoric and these morons are spreading it!
thank you for your intelligent, rational, and articulate response.
you can't fix stupid -Ron White-
see, this is the exact kind of rabid fundamentalist anti-intellectualism i was talking about.
hey story keeper: do you believe in creationism? a 4000 year old earth? keep on keepin' on, with people like you at the base of the republican party, you guys will sink faster than a rock.
The thing is most America does not understand nor care about cap & trade …. we laugh about this now but it effects everything … and I do mean EVERYTHING ….
Everything leaves a carbon footprint !!!!
environmentalists bitch about driving big SUV's and say we need to ditch them… then a study finds that a big dog hurts the environment more than an SUV. These are the same environmentalists who have said we need to stop eating meat because of the carbon emissions involved. Right. They aren't ever going to advocate that we don't keep dogs and other types of "high carbon emission" pets. riiiiiight.
After Cap and Tax goes through we're going to need our pets to feed the family.
Oh, look – scott z, the paid agitator, is back. We need a sign that says "Don't feed the piggy!"
"Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it."
How's that ice age working for ya?
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,...
Ok scott, you've convinced me, despite your denials it is obvious that you are working for some group. You use typical Alinsky-esque tactics, don't seem to have a job (unless this is it), and respond with such "enthusiasm" that you either have a mental illness or need to do this for the money.
Someone should track your IP address and see who you work for.
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damn…this nonsense is just turning Orwell into a regular prophet "four legs good, two legs baaaad"
carbon pawprint…oh for the love of…..
stay out of my bank account, out of my health care, and for f's sake, let me have my damn dogs!
its not government, its parental control- bah!
synecdoche
Is this the same "anti-intellectualism" that declares the debate on AGW closed just because a "consensus" is arrived at by so-called scientists? A little bit of knowledge for ya, there is no such thing as a consensus in science. Either it is proven or not.
"Either it is proven or not. "
A little bit of knowledge for ya, gravity is only a theory- as described only by the general theory of relativity. yet unfortunately i doubt you'd be willing to take a long walk off a short pier.
The irony, Kevin S responds with PRECISELY the kind of anti-intellectualism I was talking about.
ohhh! a witch hunt to cull the dissenters and ideologically unpure from the pack!
don't conservatives just LOOOVE a good Red Scare every now and again!
Not to feed troll, but scientists have been able to predict how gravity will effect something. The “consensus” has yet to correctly predict what the temperature will be for a certain amount of co2.
i dunno. how's that ability to properly format URLs working for ya?
Give it up Scott, you're just making yourself look bad.
So, what's for dinner tonight, Chinese or Korean?
Remember, we're eating to save the planet!
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,...
Either a theory is proven or it is not. If it is not proven the it is because the theory is wrong, or we just haven't been able to figure it out. But it is not closed to debate. Anti-intellectualism is stating that the debate is closed when there is no proof that the theory is correct. The AGW kool-aid drinkers can't accept this little fact, so instead of continuously debating the issue, providing all information and data, it is declared closed.
I have two dogs, a cat, and lots of ammo
Come and get them if you DARE!!
indeed. this is exactly the kind of anti-intellectualism I was talking about.
you assert that scientists have been wrong before, so by definition they are (probably? maybe?) wrong this time as well. each claim must be examined on a case by case basis,and the supporting evidence evaluated.
your article you yourself posted quotes: "Some scientists like Donald Oilman, chief of the National Weather Service's long-range-prediction group, think that the cooling trend may be only temporary. But all agree that vastly more information is needed about the major influences on the earth's climate. "
On the other hand, the IPCC has been evaluating global climate change for the past 20 years, since 1988. In that time there have been tens of thousands of scientists representing nearly every country on the planet engaged in the study of global climate change, and it is ongoing.
The many publically available reports written by the IPCC generally take several years to produce, consist of people from over 130 countries including more than 2500 scientific expert reviewers, more than 800 contributing authors, and more than 450 lead authors each.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Pa...
to even attempt to compare or equate the amount of data, research, and conclusions of your Time magazine article from 1974 to that available and published in peer reviewed literature over the past 20 years regarding global climate change and the overwhelming scientific consensus formed is absurd, and only proves your intellectual sloth.
Victoria University professors Brenda and Robert Vale, architects who specialise in sustainable living….
When did architects become scientists? I know, what's it matter their credentials since the gullible GW sheeple swallow it whole. And how exactly is having a hen house with chickens, say I eat chicken three nights a week, any less a carbon footprint than poor Fido's, who sleeps most of the day , carbon paw prints.
Here's a more commonsense approach for architects, climate gurus, Brenda and Robert, eat dry dog food and water with Fido at every meal and save the chickens. Of course, the media has absolutely no commonsense filters to stop printing the utterances of these morons.
"this is exactly the kind of anti-intellectualism I was talking about."
you oughta know. scottie, you're a classic example of someone who is educated far beyond their intelligence…
i know what i'll be feeding my dogs after the first enviro-whacko comes after them. come to think of it, i'm gonna start setting out bait and traps- my dog food bill will be down to zero in no time! hmmm, one of my dogs has bad allergies, good thing their new diet will be 100% organic…
I'm hardly ideologically pure and have said several things that were unpopular on this site. You see, I actually speak my mind rather than regurgitating talking points from one side.
But hey, nice attempt at playing the victim and trying to make "conservatives" look like nuts – that seems to be your only goal and it is pretty pathetic.
Do you really think the debate about gravity is closed?
Oh boy…..
I'm just waiting for the carbon squads to start showing up and killing off not only animals but people as well for going over their carbon quota for the year. Don't laugh, we're headed in that direction if we don't stop this man-made climate change nonsense.
This isn't the first artivle about the "pets are bad for the climate", scotty-boy. The first one I read was actually put out by the people pushing this absurdity.
Do try to keep up………………………………………………………………….
Without any carbon emission, all plant life on the earth would die.
Carbon is NOT the problem the enviro terrorists claim it is.
Should the GLOBAL WARMING and PETA true believers get their way, almost all plant life would die. Then what would those precious vegans eat ?
If these nut jobs even tried to come after my 3 cats and 2 dogs they would be nothing but a pile of bones. After the pit bull ripped them apart the yorkiepom and the cats would eat the leftovers. I hate these people. They want to kill my elderly father with their healh scare bill, kill my pets with their enviromental communist agenda, make everyone equally poor with their systematic destruction of the financial sector and so on. This is what happens when the crazy people are let out of the asylum!
For the record, I swear I have only been joking for several years now when I refer to all the cats we have as "emergency blizzard supplies."
And despite the cooling temperatures and the colder winter being expected, with the rising prices for food and energy, and especially despite the PETA people who think animals are better off dead than kept as pets, I would prefer to keep it that way!
"But it is not closed to debate."
no, much like creationism and flat eathers, the debate rages.
but scientific consensus has indeed been reached.
if you can refute anything in my post, i challenge you to refute it.
Actually chicken and other meats are a major component of dry dog food. Fido sure is not a natural vegan, and needs animal-based proteins to survive. The grain components are more filler than anything else.
And why do people by dog food that advertises "the goodness of wholesome vegetables"? Did you ever see a dog eagerly consume a fresh carrot from your garden, or chow down on plain green peas?
"But hey, nice attempt at playing the victim"
someone called for the investigation of my IP address and employer. And it's not the first time.I'd say that's a bit out of bounds.
"trying to make "conservatives" look like nuts"
you're handling that one well enough on your own…
Well, when you consider the very large "carbon footprint" to provide Granny with medicines, age-related medical treatments, that horrendously Earth-destroying "end-of-life" advanced care…
Pay no attention to Scott. He’s a devout citizen of the 57th state, his love of Barry, is well…weird, or creepy – - you pick.
ok then. i challenge *you* to refute anything in my post.
In a perfect Obama utopia only the good govt. bureaucrats can have pets, not the tax slaves
FYI- PETA, those angelic loving caring libs, kill 97% of the dogs, cats, and other pets it took in for adoption in 2006
"And it's not the first time that has happened on this blog. I'd say that's a bit out of bounds."
Yes, it is about as out of bounds as "checking for id" before someone can vote. I just think people should know when ACORN/Obama goons are trolling around under the cloak of secrecy.
After all, you guys are all for "transparency" – besides, you act like thuggery and astroturf isn't par for the course for Obama.
Scott what do you want, “pistols at dawn?” Righteous indignation is no way to gather friends, or convince your enemies. The world gets warm, the world gets cold, it’s called the “weather.” Lighten up Frances (Scott,) and have a steak. Don’t kill your pets, it’ll be okay!
i have liberal views, and i am proud of them.
why must any dissenting view be subject to background checks? is it hard to believe there are people in the world who disagree with you?
shoe on the other foot, for all i know, this entire website and all commenters are bought and paid for by RNC funds.yet i don't even make that charge.
scotty,
I'll challange you. It was already established as fact yesterday that you are here working professionally at the behest of someone, yet to be determined or real. You even get an hour off for lunch. I've read some of your posts tonight. YOU are not the same scotty who was here entertaining US yesterday. Today, you are more eloquent and intelligent. I don't think you took any crash courses over night, which leads me to deduce there are several people using your alias "scott_z". In any event, why don't you give it up and go back to carrying Ariana's water?
You've irriated the nice folk here enough today, even picking on women. WoW! I'm impressed with your manliness…………..
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Does this mean all the menus must now change in all the Chinese Resturants?
You come here and impugn all who don't agree with you and now, scotty boy, you're trying to play the victim? That's rich; not to mention hypocritical !
Oh yeah, all of us are being paid, paid big bucks. /s
If you had an ounce of shame, you'd slick away and not return. How badly do you need to be shown up and laughed at, before you reach the state of euphoria you're craving?
There is a lot more grain filler in dried dog food than meat. If the two numbskulls stuck to Fido's diet, and I didn't add anything else to their menu, it's by far a smaller carbon footprint then their grocery store selections. And, you'd be surprised how little meat a dog needs, cats not so. Coyotes for example get little. In the Third World or Mexico or on Indian reservations dogs don't get much meat. But, I'm digressing.
My basic message was let them eat dog food with Fido and forget the stupid chicken replacement for the family pet.
"why must any dissenting view be subject to background checks? is it hard to believe there are people in the world who disagree with you?"
Dissent all you want, but your self-admitted pattern has been one of intentional aggravation – the product of either a disturbed mind or "community organization."
A democracy is not served by paid thugs going around anonymously attempting to manipulate the masses via psychological tricks.
In short, if your side wasn't so damn corrupt we wouldn't be so suspicious.
Well a few of Obama's czars are now calling for population control. Yes, just like in China; demanding that there should only be one child families.
That bunch doesn't and never has believed that laws and requirements are something that they have to abide by.
Just look at Charlie Rangle, for example !
thank you for your well reasoned and articulate response.
Sen. Tom Daschele was nominated by Obama to run this health care thing, but guess what tax cheat, he was gonna make all the People pay taxes for his utopian health care BS and hes a tax cheat. Our Treasury secretary(hold my calls) Tim Geithner, forgot to pay his taxes WTF! Its what happens under socialism, and this is what the American President seemsto favor though i have yet to hear a journalist ask the president directly if he was a socialist? Im waiting. Socialism is terrible for the People seems pepole have been brainwashed or something we can only keep hammering at it.
"A democracy is not served by paid thugs going around anonymously attempting to manipulate the masses via psychological tricks. "
ohhh. you mean like shouting down town hall meetings?
LOL.
good one cowboy
My posts are far more well reasoned and articulate than any of yours are and at least I know the difference between "their" and "they're" ( even there ! ); unlike you !
Save the dog, retroactively abort a liberal.
Exactly so and the few names that both of us posted are but the tip of the iceberg of frauds and criminals ( including the Obamas, who also are cheats ) in the Dem hierarchy now !
Again Scott, that would be your side, at least when you dems aren't begging mass murderers like Jim Jones to fill up your town halls for free.
I'm begining to see a pattern with you though – you accuse the right of the things that the left is guilty of.
I'm happy to see you laughing at yourself though – trust me you aren't alone.
Except for the Muslims. They 9 babies per year to 1 Caucasion child here in the United States.
That's all ya got…………………scotty boy ? LOL
Of course Obama will set aside exceptions; don'tcha know.
All are equal, but some are more equal than others.
I have only seen one big carbon footprint on this blog and it belongs to scott_z. So much carbon expelled in so much hot breath should pay a hefty tax. His rhetoric is cast in cement and is not even debatable on an intellectial level. He is pulling everybody's chain for responses and is getting paid for it.
Did anybody here ever hear of the " ignore button" ?
quick quiz, how many times did scott z use the term 'anti-intellectualism'
ANS; Who the F cares what Scott sez
go easy on Michelle, I know plenty of libs who, when your debating them, go all angelic and would give the shirt off their back to "help" everyone, so they say, and talk of "gladly paying extra taxes" then come to find out they are tax cheats, its truly sick, i dont know how these people live with themselves, i mean their lives are a big a lie, and dont get me started on tom daschles voice, that whispery pleading soft spoken tolerant do-gooder whine, in fact just yesterday harry reid was speaking in that exact caring effette tone, what gives??????? ITs the sign of a liar
As for the carbon tax itself, the toilets of the future in our homes will have a place for $ bills every time you need to flush. The Enviro insane are running the asylum and Al Gore is getting richer.
I believe in taking care of our planet and not trashing it, but this is beyond real.
"Today, you are more eloquent and intelligent."
lol. maybe i'm in a better mood. but rest assured, i am the same guy.
i might say that most times i am on this blog, you are too. maybe you are a corporate "plant" from brietbart to counter me?
Hey idiot, he is linked to 2 articles from different papers by different people. He is not pedaling it, he is making us aware. That is what you libs like right, awareness? Troll elsewhere fledgling.
The left is a hotbed of thuggery that pales in comparison to the (I'm guessing) pointless attempts for these fine folks to slay a troll (so to speak).
MO had no compunction in being part of the graft ( special, just about unheard of, mortgage from the Northern Trust, getting an all of a sudden made up job for over $300,000 per year, etc. ) nor in making sure that all of those icky poor folks got shipped off to some clinic when they showed up at the hospital's ER, that spent more to give her a "special job". Think about how many poor folks that massive yearly stipend could have covered care for. And have you seen the pawltry sums the Obamas gave to charity, before he decided to run for president?
Liberals may talk the talk, but when it comes down to it, they NEVER walk the walk re charity, taking care of "the people", really caring about the poor and down trodden.
Ooooooooooooh Dashole ( yes, I do know how to really spell his name ) makes my skin crawl, when he talks; but then, so do Reid and Pelosi and Obama.
this is why America is ont he brink of collapse… Does America not understand this ?? Every and I mean every person in the USA will be taxed !!!!! Everything will have a larger TAX !!!! Do you think they will keep the tax rate the same once they get their greedy hands on it !!!!! Hell no !!!!
Dam America wake the F up !!!!
Hey…did you see Glenn Beck tonight??? Tell Al Gore he must do as he says…..he is such a two faced liar…..and he wants to still eat meat?? just when PETA challenges him to a debate on how much feed animals are contirbuting to global warming??? more CO2 than all the fossil fuels combined???
get real big AL….and sell your private Gulfstream jet, supersized McMansion….and ride a bike around the globe if you truly believe in Global warming. lead by example…not with your wallet or investments in gaining huge profits from this Global warming BS…..OK?
be mad !!! be very mad!!! Call and let them know how mad you are !!!! Obama, Gore, Reid and Pelosi are killing this nation !!!!!
Well…………..I understand it; I understood last year, I've understood that the hoaxes ( "GLOBAL COOLING"/GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE/ THE POPULATION BOMB ) are hoaxes, from the first time they all came out.
Passing CAP&TAX will destroy this nation and that's the plan.
Bullshit zippy.
You know better than my being a corporate plant, for Breitbart, or anyone else. I am an equal opportunity irritant. I have been on this site from day one, hour one. I'm a freelance Patriot, not a paid shill like you and Syntax. Speaking of shills, what happened to your other homeboy, "palmtree"?
You pompous pontificating peckerwoods are all alike. Flaccid, at Lake Placid.
People should only have fish for pets because fish have no feet
"Today, you are more eloquent and intelligent." have you considered the possibility that today he's sober? or perhaps back on his meds?
but, yeah, i agree with you that he/they are only here to play troll. t'would appear there is nothing too ridiculously far to the left he/they won't rise, or sink, as it were, to defend or deflect. some lefty says pets are a threat to the environment, for example. beam-me-up-scottie here automatically dismisses it as an 'anti-intellectual' fantasy being used by the right to foment unjust hatred against what he/they see as a perfectly rational green movement. you can provide links, logic, facts, what have you, and it's like arguing with an extremely dull-witted brick wall. he is/they are either true believers or sufficiently well-paid shills, maybe both.
on this blog, i am not interested in gathering friends, and by my own tally i have no enemies (others may differ).
i am simply interested in speaking truth.
"You know better than my being a corporate plant,"
well,i've only been here for like, a couple days. so i don't know any personalities, all i usually see here is a sea of wrongheadedness.
plus, maybe Breitbart wants a "maverick"!!!
lol
If you think it's abhorrent what they are going to do to the doggie, the kitties and the cows, just wait until they crack down on the squirresl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfABnAS5i9Q&fe...
well, my most active posts today:
1) human caused global climate change does exist and there is wide scientific consensus, reaching across many decades, tens thousands of researchers from hundreds of countries (google IPCC)
2) a health care poll given by a public relations firm hired by a consortium of 15 for-profit health care companies,as advertised on their own website, should be accepted with a heavy dose of skepticism.
if you think wither point is trollish, ridiculously far to the left, beam-me-up-scottie, or unjust hatred, please explain right now.
otherwise, i'd kindly request an apology.
and a good day to you, sir.
Oh…you’re the keeper of the truth, thanks for your help.
Hey idiot, if you go through my posts above, i linked to the IPCC reports on global climate change which consist of dozens of peer reviewed papers from tens of thousands of scientists from nearly every country on Earth with an overwhelming scientific consensus over the past 20 years.
can you speak directly to the peer reviewed IPCC reports on global climate change produced by tens of thousands of scientists representing over 130 countries with overwhelming scientific consensus over the past 20 years that i cited?
maybe just a little?
no?
now there, i never said i owned the truth, did i stanh?
hmmmm?
Oh I’m sorry Scott, I thought you knew everything, …my bad!
These Psudo Intellectuals make me laugh.. They Refuse to debate anyone with an opposing view. (e.g. Al Gore, and Congressional Hearings that banned opposing Scientist during Gore's Congressional Hearing.). States Thousands and thousands of Scientists have agreed and 130 Countries agree. How gullible are you. An equal number of Scientists do not agree with them or you but Liberals do the same thing every time, if the TRUTH does not fit just ignore it. You seem well educated but misguided and will not change your beliefs if true or not, hence you are no longer teachable….. Just tell me what happened to the 3 mile thick glacier that once covered the Chicago area (forming the Great Lakes). Was it the Industrial Revolution ?? Was it the cave men inventing Fire ?? Was it Animal Farts ?? Does the SUN have any effect on our weather ?? Does Solar Wind, Sun Spots affect our Climate ?? Does this Earth, a grain of sand in in our solar system affected by other events in the solar System ?? …
Has this fringe, which is now ready to send canines to the slaughter, considered the carbon footprint of polar bears and other "endangered species"? Oh but wait we're trying to save the polar bears, at the expense of human life! The way they are framing things, the only solution is for everyone to start drinking the kool aid, because there is no solution. So ok fringe lefties, show us the way! Put up or shut up!
I'm all for P.E.T.A………..People Eating Tasty Animals………
This Carbon Death Squad sounds like a great employment opportunity. I bet the carbon squads will also get to ride from one government directed carbon mop up to another in big armor plated SUV's and helicopters. Hopefully we can rain enough death on the world to offset our own massive carbon footprint. Maybe I can join this elite squad, we'll have a patch with a Ivory tower overgrown with ivy leafs and the motto will be "Plants good, animals bad".
With exceptions of course.
In that regard, so am I!
Meat………………mmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Obam is kept in a protective bubble…. No one can ask him any questions unless they are screened Obama supporters with pre aranged questions.. He even separates himself from his staff and Czars…. But in the end he IS responsible for all they do….. The Buck stops at his desk…….
"An equal number of Scientists do not agree with them"
that is flat out not true. can you provide a citation?
"Just tell me what happened to the 3 mile thick glacier that once covered the Chicago area (forming the Great Lakes)."
as i explained to you in the other thread, that glacier took tens of thousands of years to retreat. we are now witnessing visible glacial melt in just less than 100 years time. This is the face of human caused global climate change.
Sounds about right; though these jobs may be unpaid, but allow the Gestap…………PETAS to keep what they confiscate.
Ever read and/or see SOYLANT GREEN?
You mean speak directly to the two logical fallacies you just used?
(Appeal to Popularity and Appeal to Authority.)
Oh and science isn't decided by consensus, else I'd be lobbying to get a bunch of physicists to declare anti-gravity and FTL travel are possible and watch the Universe magically make it so.
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I think the green brains have a two-fold purpose for this. Get rid of Tiger and Fido and make people die sooner. How often have we heard that our pets help us live longer? Less stress, less lonely, laugh more, ect., ect. The kooky environmentalist love old growth in the forest…but hate old human growth. The less people in the world the more they would like it.
"You mean speak directly to the two logical fallacies you just used? "
no. i mean logically contradict anything in the IPCC reports. Science may not be consensus, but I am specifically asking if you can point out where the peer reviewed studies of tens of thousands of scientists is wrong or factually incorrect.
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how bout not having kids? Much more eco friendly than getting rid of your dog.
I never thought when I bought my AR-15 it would have to be used to protect my cat from commies.
First :
I don' believe there are that Many Enviormental Scientist you claim to exists. Drill down and find the FACTS that many Scientist that signed this Global Warming document have no clue on the climate but are Scientific Specialists in other fields. Most were just Liberals doing thier duty.
Second :
Why are there no debates from opposing views ?. Congress did not want to embarass Al Gore when he testified by withdrawing the invitation of an opposing Scientist who was invited to testify also. Why does Al Gore run away from ANY debate ?? They all say the Science is SETTLED, nothing to debate. Why are Polar Bears numbers increasing by 5X ? You are more educated than I am but you must know anyone can manipulate data to serve thier purpose. Drill down about computer models were wrong…………….
Why do you use those scientists as an example when just as many scientists can prove to the contrary. BTW, the IPCC gives money to scientists depending on their "scientific" findings and wants to make a global government body to control every industry. I dont believe word one coming out of any UN bureaucracy.
"when just as many scientists can prove to the contrary."
this is simply NOT TRUE. I challenge you to provide a reference or citation to back up your claim.
The finding that the climate has warmed in recent decades and that this warming is likely attributable to human influence has been endorsed by every national science academy that has issued a statement on climate change, including the science academies of all of the major industrialized countries. At present, no scientific body of national or international standing has issued a dissenting statement. A small minority of professional associations have issued noncommittal statements.
On April 29, 2008, environmental journalist Richard Littlemore revealed that a list of "500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares" distributed by the Heartland Institute included at least 45 scientists who neither knew of their inclusion as "coauthors" of the article, nor agreed with its contents. Many of the scientists asked the Heartland Institute to remove their names from the list.
In 1997, the "World Scientists Call For Action" petition was presented to world leaders meeting to negotiate the Kyoto Protocol. The declaration asserted, "A broad consensus among the world's climatologists is that there is now ‘a discernible human influence on global climate.’" It urged governments to make "legally binding commitments to reduce industrial nations' emissions of heat-trapping gases", and called global warming "one of the most serious threats to the planet and to future generations." The petition was conceived by the Union of Concerned Scientists as a follow up to their 1992 World Scientists' Warning to Humanity, and was signed by "more than 1,500 of the world's most distinguished senior scientists, including the majority of Nobel laureates in science."
where are your "equal or greater" number of scientists exactly? Do tell! I await your response.
http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=462
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction...
Now you point to YOUR tens of thousands claim. No HuffPo or KOS links please.
your first link is laugh out loud ridiculous. Laying claim to an unverifiable list of names without any background info or qualifications is scientifically ABSURD
as with the IPCC scientists listed on each report, for each signer we should be able to identify:
1. Highest degree (Bachelors, Masters, PhD)
2. what scientific institution they are associated with
3. Main research discipline
4. Evidence of peer reviewed papers on climate science in ISI journals.
Here. I will start you out with the authors and reviewers of a single REAL scientific document. starting on page 955, you can contact any one of these approx. 1200 individuals and confirm their qualifications, because it lists full name, academic/professional title, employer that they can be reached through, state or country of residence:
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/...
the links you provided are utterly meaningless.
"and find the FACTS that many"
i have read the entirety of all IPCC reports released since 1992. i challenge you to crack open a book and find a logical fault with any of them.
did you hear he was watching a documentary about himself during last night election returns, what a nerd. Oh yeah the guy who directed the documentary on Obama is some geek face pansy lookin actor named edward norton, how the hell this pimple faced geek got any leading man roles shows how pathetic hollywood has become.
I feel ya 1redcent, i just dont feel right pickin on a lady. I used to not like her very muuch but something came over me and I have done a comple reversal and I like her now, even if our views completely clash, its like agreeing to disagree, or we can disagree without being disagreeable, I'm sure youd agree that the political discourse is quite crass, im just as guilty as anyone, but giving the first lady respect even though i disagree politically is a first step for me, as far as the Presidents concerned nothing would give me more pleasure than to stuff him as he drove to the hoop, know what im sayin…peace
1200 is hardly the thousands and thousands that you mentioned, and you are using the IPCCs own website. You are truly not very good at debating.
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?id=50
Here is another link to the same list of scientists mentioned in article one, but it links to the petition itself so check the names and have fun. Just because the truth is inconvenient doesn't mean it isn't truth.
Panda Bears are vegans and on their way out. They are to stupid and lazy to reproduce even with wine and Panda porn. Their vegatarian diet keeps their colons clear but clouds their brains. All they do is lay around all day and urinate on themselves. Sounds like I'm talking about liberals. On the other hand the Grizzly will eat anything, is always on the go, powerful and rules his domain. From the biginning of time the carnivores ruled and the others, well they are more like the sheeple we have now.
1200 is from a single study.
and you are still posting random unverifiable lists of names, without qualifications, education levels, specializations, peer reviewed articles they have written, scientific research institutions they work for, with no way for me to contact anyone.
all you have is semi-anonymous internet lists of names. and i do not believe they carry much in the way of integrity.
it took me a while to find it, but here. your much touted semi-anonymous petition is total and complete fraud:
http://local-warming.blogspot.com/2008/05/31000-s...
it took me a while to find it, but here. your much touted semi-anonymous petition is total and complete fraud:
http://local-warming.blogspot.com/2008/05/31000-s...
Could you, please, explain just WHY you have done a complete reversal on MO? That's something I just can't wrap my mind around and come up with a rational explanation for.
Michelle is far more an anti-white, radical BLACK LIBERATIONIST MARXIST than her husband. She's also a mooch! Are you even aware of the fact that her father was a BIG DEAL in South Side RADICAL DEM politics and was NEVER the "poor", downtrodden, "blue collar" worker that she and the Obama team claimed? Do you even know that she was CHOSEN to be his wife and one of his handlers, by Valerie Jarret?
I could go on and on, but perhaps it would be better if you did your own research.
Yes, political discourse has grown PUBLICLY more crude; OTOH, back when this nation was very young, new, and bright and shiny, it was as bad, if not far worse! Just because those men used a better vocabulary, most people, today, whose vocabulary is sorely lacking, compared to our FFs, don't understand that. And "DIRTY TRICKS"? It was an operative who used to do some of Jefferson's smear campaigns against the guys on his "enemies list ", turned on Jefferson, when Tom didn't give him the post he had been promised. So, do you know what he did then? HE STARTED THE NASTY RUMOR, THAT REFUSES TO DIE, THOUGH NOW PROVEN TO BE WRONG, THAT JEFFERSON HAD A DECADES LONG AFFAIR WITH THE 1/2 SISTER AND SLAVE OF HIS WIFE; SALLY HEMMINGS !
Fast forward several decades and we come to Andrew Jackson, who, with his wife, were pilloried for having an adulterous/bigamist marriage and his wife ws repeatedly called a "WHORE". She died shortly after Jackson became president and he always blamed the oposition for her death.
Fast forward to the 1950s…………………..it was done sub rosa, but the Dems spread the word that Mamie Eisenhower was a closeted, falling down dead DRUNK .
There's lots more, but you really need to take ofc the old GOP white gloves ! The Dems fight dirty, VERY DIRTY, and us playing nicey nicey is just stupid !
Yep, heard about it too. This is utterly disgusting !
WHAT CAUSED THE GLACIERS TO "RETREAT" ??
Maybe the IPCC reports may have been wrong to suit thier agenda?????
thanks for the research, heres my thoughts, you make her seem so powerful when you describe her, which sort of empowers her, shes just one person, you make it seem like shes more powerful than she is, its as if you fear her, i feel the same way when people talk so fearfully of what Obamas gonna do, I aint scared, I think hes too dumb to do anything, thats my take on it, I think if you have confidence in your ideology and yourself your enimies can be tolerated in a more civil discourse, remember we're all Americans
Just looking at that liberal wimp Edward Norton of the movie "fight club" fame, as if that hollywood wimp could actually fight, what a joke, yeah I bet skinny lil Obama would be real tough in a street fight, a pencil necked geek lawyer
Oh good grief……………………………………………
Look, what you're saying is so wrong headed that I really have to wonder what your agenda is. If you aren't afraid for this nation, be scared to death of what has and shall continue TO HAPPEN TO you, if others don't work to defeat Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and all of those who want to make America in the old USSR !
Obama is a puppet/a figure head; if you will. but he still can and shall do things/not do things, that endanger this nation and its populace.
During the first year of Bill Clinton's presidency, he shoved through the highest tax increase ever; it was unconstitutional, in that it was retroactive. On his own, he signed so many EOs, most of which could not legally be undone by President Bush the younger, who tried to get them undone.
We still have to cope with a lot of garbage that previous presidents have forced upon all of us, even on people who weren't even born when this stuff was done.
Your call for simpering "civility" is senseless and something I find incomprehensible. So too your tolerance for enemies, enemies who have NO tolerance for you.
You miss my point, In sports when your competition gets in your head it can throw you off your game. my agenda is free market, free enterprise, capitalism. plus tax reduction smaller govt. step- 1 a 10% reduction in budgets across the board for fed, state and local govt. It seems to me the liberals have driven you nuts. I know they are vain and pig headed but the best way to wake them up is to keep debating them rationally. why on god's earth they would rather give their money to the govt. instead of keeping it for themselves is self hatred. In my experience when my emotions get the best of me my ability to be persuasive for my cause is diminished. i take offense that you say I'm not working for the cause because of my approach. Libs are political enemies but they are our fellow citizens, we are all Americans, why is this so incomprehensible. The way to win over your enemy is to convince them of your ideologys superiority, your approach reflects that you havent had any success.
Look, the old GOP white glove tactics do not work!
I've fought these anti-American, Marxism loving jerks since the mid 1960s, using their own words back at them ( which was always met with absolutely stunned silence and a slack-jawed open mouth ) and it works !
You can have a civil argument with some; just not with people from the SDS, the WEATHERMEN, and their offshoots.
If you're talking about your average brain dead American, then yes, civility can work. If you're talking about the "true believers"; HELL NO, my way always works. WHY does my way work? BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXPECT IT, NEVER SEE IT COMING, AND HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO REACT TO IT, WHEN IT COMES FROM SOMEONE SO VERY DIFFERENT FROM THEM !
And just WHAT exactly have you done; really do?
I've changed minds, many times over. I've spent my adult life supporting candidates with time, money, and a lot of effort.
I don't particularly want nor enjoy making this personal, but you started it. Never assume anything about people you debate on line………..and you erroniously did.
I disagree, your frustration obviously shows a lack of success in dealing with your political enemies. You remind me of a conservative I know who constanly screws up by attacking his own, to use another sports analogy, you're not a good team-mate.
As to what have i done, well i started my own business and gave people jobs, is that good enough for someone who blows his own horn about how MANY peoples minds hes changed. Ok if you say so. Youre rhetoric about avg. Americans being brain dead is pure arrogance, i'm sure they appreciate your insults. You can assume youre superior to avg. Americans but I dont see any evidence of it.
Ever heard of a velvet hammer? You can be tough without being completely disagreeable, God bless President Reagan, you could learn alot from a man with class.
Look, you don't know anything about me, yet you accuse me of "blowing my own horn" after I clearly stated that I didn't want to talk about real life stuff, but did. Okay, believe what you want to, but that's completely wrong.
I don't lie, tell tall tales, nor try to make myself look better. Perhaps you do and that's why you choose to not believe what I've said.
Having your own business doesn't mean that you are doing anything for our cause. Libs and Marxists do that too.
The average American IS brain dead…………………..look at how many of them voted for Obama or even stayed home and didn't vote at all, last year.
Obviously, you didn't learn a thing from Reagan. I bet you didn't do a thing, except vote for him, to help him get elected!
i was just thinking about you, hope i wasnt too hard on ya, your anger is palpable my friend, you dont know nothing about me either, lets be friends, ok
marxists dont start business', a business is responsible to the soverign consumer, a marxist is responsible to his political master
No, I don't know all that much about you either, but unlike you, I take what you post at face value. I suggest you do the same with me.
Would all manner of smillies make it easier for you to understand what I post ?
You're wrong, yet again. There are many American MARXISTS/Socialists who are in businesses that they have started. Look at the Hollyweird idiots, Ben&Jerry, and on and on.
playin hard to get, fine, what the hell is a smillies? turn your frown upside down. Are you jealous i started a business and you didnt, is that it? Like i said you have a problem with attacking your allies, screw it, had my fill of your type. you sure have thin skin for someone so abrasive.
and your wrong about marxists, they dont start business', marxismn has no business' they have burreaucrats that administer the elites dictates. the hollywood bozos arent true marxists , just marxist wanna-bes
You don't know what a "smillie" is ? Is this the first time you've ever been on a forum?
Again, you have NO idea what is what in my real life and I'm not going to tell you any more of it, since you don't understand what I type/disbelieve it anyway.
You repeatedly attack me and then claim that I'm the one that has a problem? ROTFLMSO ( I bet you don't know what that means either. LOL )
I'm wrong? HEY, BUDDY, BEN AND JERRY, WHO STARTED BEN&JERRY'S ICE CREAM ARE BOTH MARXISTS, YET THEY STARTED A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS.
You're the one who is thin skinned; not to mention ignorant and arrogant .
(<———— that's a "smillie )
Blow it out yer ear;. bozo.
i understand your disbelifs and disbelieve in most all of them except being hard on Michelle Obama, shes not elected to anything and i dont pick on women.
Quit whineing about me attacking you, so what, i must be hitting some soft spot because thou doth protest to much. You roll around on the floor like a lunatic, you must get alot of hot women doing that. the mental hospital called time for you to get home.
go bore someone else, i'm done with you
oh yeah last i checked its SMILEY
fyi-MARXISTS dont believe in private property so its impossible for ben and jerry to have a private business and be marxists, Marxists dont believe in private property either, dont be jealous that i know more about this than you do, try learning for once
If I bored you and you really were "done" with me, you would stop responding and whining and whinging and crying and acting like a little girl.
I'm actually laughing at you and haven't "whined" once.
You haven't laid a glove on me, with your hysterics and pitiful name calling. You're a joke; a sick one.
And they're called a smillies!
Go sit in a corner and suck your thumb.
ROTFLMSO…………you and your stupid "jealousy" remark. You have one heck of a projection complex there.
You really are ignorant! Marxists say one thing and usually do something completely different, where they're concerned.
Go play in traffic…………………..*
* you're childish, so childish taunts is all you deserve. I REALLY must have striuck a whole bunch of nerves.
what can i say i like fighting, but at least i didnt stoop so low as to make sure i give you thumbs down, thats infantile.
Of course i didnt lay a glove on you, all i got was thumbs down, that proves it. If i wanted to i could have
projection thats lib speak, did you hear the libs tried to say that a-hole at ft. hood had pre-post traumatic stress syndrome.
Marxists say one thing and usually do something completely different..you must be a marxist then based on what youve said in this thread, lol
Gee…………who says I did that?
I have been more than civil to you, until you began the childish harangues. Then I played the game.
Shall we just let this end now, or do you want the last word? LOL
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Oh goody, more banal, childish name calling and libelous spew.
It's a laugh a post, now, as you dissolve before our eyes.
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