Ensuring Liberty PAC: Creating a Tea Party Caucus
by Bill HennessyIf you followed the news out of Nashville, you probably heard that some Tea Party folks are creating a Political Action Committee that will win 15 to 20 key Congressional races in 2010 and, perhaps, in years beyond. What you didn’t hear at the press conference was that several grassroots tea party organizers are so strongly in favor of this move that we have agreed to serve Ensuring Liberty PAC through its organizing parent, the Ensuring Liberty 501.c(4). Our local tea parties will continue unchanged.
Who Comprises the ELPAC
Very simply, ELPAC is led by six people from some of the most effective local Tea Party organizations in America:
- Mark Skoda of The Memphis Tea Party
- Steve McQueen of The Quincy Tea Party
- State Sen. John Loudon (MO-Ret.) of St. Louis Tea Party
- Rose Corona, a California farmer and Patriot
- Brad Ehmen of The Quincy Tea Party
- Bill Hennessy of St. Louis Tea Party
While you might not recognize all of these names, I do. These are the people who have been in the fox holes with us since day one. They are bold and resilient fighters for freedom. They are the men and women we turn to for counsel, support, advice, strength, and help across the Mid-West and across the the nation. We share mutual faith in each other. The men and women on this list have skills to win elections with grassroots activism. They embody what happened in NY-23 and Massachusetts.
Why the PAC’s Work is Crucial
When we launched our local tea parties last spring, none of us had any idea we were creating the political stir it did. We did not know there would be more events. We did not know we’d slow down the socialist tsunami that was descending on America. Some might have hoped for such an outcome, but none of us was so arrogant as to expect it.
The Ensuring Liberty PAC is one critical piece of the puzzle that will cause a massive change in the makeup of the U.S. Congress in 2010.
How the ELPAC Will Help Change Congress
Traditionally large donors contribute large sums to large PACs operated by the two major parties. Those organizations (like the National Republican Congressional Committee) hire K Street consultants to help favored candidates win their elections. When K Streeters and the GOP brass win your election for you, you better do as they say.
The ELPAC will perform services for candidates similar to those previously performed by NRCC and the like. We will identify candidates who arose from the Tea Party movement and who espouse our values on fiscal responsibility, limited government, national security, and low taxes. If a candidate strays from our values during the election, we will exit that race and let everyone know why. This PAC is modeled after the successful approaches of the Quincy and St Louis Tea Parties, as well as others.
Candidates whom we help win can and should feel an obligation to remain true to our values throughout their term in Congress. If they do not, we will target their careers for political destruction as surely as we target certain incumbents now. For the first time in my memory, we will have members of Congress beholden to . . . the people they represent.
Who the ELPAC Will Support
Back in February 2009, we thought, as did many of you, that we might need a new party in America—one comprised of the great many people who were fed up with business as usual. As time wore on, two factors disabused us of that notion:
1. The urgency of direct action required that most of our energies in 2009 go into stopping the White House and Congressional leadership from flipping the USA into a socialist empire. Remember, Obama expected to takeover healthcare, impose the Cap and Trade multi-trillion dollar tax scheme, and eliminate the secret ballot for workers before Congress recessed in August. We put all of our energy and time into stopping those atrocities. Frankly, I believe that the urgency of our actions in 2009 were a blessing when combined with the second point.
2. A third party would have created a permanent ruling majority of statist and progressives. As I studied the matter and spoke to people smarter than I am, I realized that the 3rd party move could only help those who want socialism. Just creating a 3rd party would consume most of the center-right’s energy, time, and money for at least 2 years. And after that, at best, the 3rd party would pick up a few seats in Congress while splitting the center-right vote in hundreds of other states and districts giving Democrats a massive majority in both houses. Sorry, people, but that’s not standing on principle: it’s standing on our brains.
ELPAC will mostly support conservative candidates running as Republicans who have a reasonable chance to win with our help. For candidates like Doug Hoffman, we will provide the third element he lacked: a serious, well-coordinated ground game. In these races, we believe ELPAC will be THE difference. In this election, we believe all of us will be part of the margin of freedom’s victory.
How ELPAC Measure Success
Some of us have heard that we must not support candidates affiliated with a party. That’s great. But it’s a recipe for disaster. Scott Brown’s victory in Massachusetts felt so good because politics is a game measured by wins and losses, just like any other game. We keep score in this world. And political success means WINNING ELECTIONS.
We will measure ELPAC’s success when some conservative—most likely a Republican—accepts the gavel from Nancy Pelosi’s trembling hand in January 2011. If that does not happen, we fear that the forces of socialism and tyranny will use their power to silence all dissent in America. That’s not fear-mongering; that’s history.
How the ELPAC Evolved
ELPAC is the natural and necessary next step in the Tea Party’s progression. The Boston Tea Party led to stronger colonial legislatures that led to a strong Continental Congress that drafted the Declaration of Independence. The rag-tag Minutemen led to state militias that led to well-trained professional Army under George Washington, and that Army defeated the British.
The “Nationwide Chicago Tea Party Protest” of February 27, 2009, led to a multitude of Tea Party coalitions that led to formal Tea Party groups. Some of those groups have formed PACs, non-profits, and even LLCs. ELPAC is one of these. ELPAC is a professional army seeking to wage political war against a corrupt and corrupting leftist government. By God’s grace, we will prevail.
How Tea Partiers Can Help
The millions who rode to the sound of the drums in 2009 will continue doing exactly what they started last year: attend the rallies, call the radio stations, write the newspapers, march in the parades, make your signs, tell your neighbors, knock on doors, send out emails, fill the town halls, register conservative voters, canvass for the right politicians, sing the praises of liberty and low taxes, pursue happiness and good government, fight for your right to live free . . . or die.
In 2009, we asked for very little in the way of donations. We told our patriots that the time would come for them to invest their dollars in political campaigns. That time is just around the corner. ELPAC will use their donations to win critical races, replacing the current Congress with one responsive to the Tea Party’s agenda. It’s as simple as that.
Finally, we ask Tea Partiers to pray. ELPAC is not the only Tea Party PAC trying to take back Congress from the statists and progressives. Together with these other PACs –and with you—we will win. But we need the prayers, the strength, and the devotion of everyone who has attended a Tea Party or 9-12 event. Six folks, however dedicated, cannot win this war without undying help from millions of others. The Tea Partiers have stood by this country and this cause for a year. We ask for their prayers that ELPAC and its cousins fulfill our missions to save America from the hellfire of socialism and tyranny.
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Good Luck.
I honestly think this is a move in the right direction. Although we must remain Grassroots, the fact is, plain and simple, there must be an organisation that has the best interests of the TPM at heart and can wage an effective campaign that reaches across the entire nation. Who can think of a more qualified group of people than those who have been there since the inception. Of course we now need to add to this core group with our support and encouragement, and never abandon the ideals, principles and values we cherish as members of the TPM.
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Well said Hanzo…!
I second that good luck… its time for a name change anyway…
Tea Party '09 = Desert Shield '90
Desert Storm '91 = Patriot Party '10
What many in the TP don't realize is how badly the GOP & extreme right are trying to hijack it! I have written repeatedly my opinion on TP movement, its not genuine, sorry but its the truth look up Boston tea Party of 1773 and explain to me how todays TP is anything like the Boston TP!
You guys need to route out GOP progressives heck the entire GOP they all have to go, 9/11truthers & the birthers they are too extreme and radical. No you say?! Okay then put Rev. Manning as the head of the party and good luck taking over the Senate House and WH.
What are you prepared to do, is the question you must ask seriously yourself!? Its time for "out of the box" thinking in dealing with all politicians, bias fringe media and special interest groups who are only working for their own interest. Unconventional actions is what is going to be needed to affect real change through http://www.savingtherepublic.com
I second that good luck… its time for a name change anyway…
Tea Party '09 = Desert Shield '90
Desert Storm '91 = Patriot Party '10
What many in the TP don't realize is how badly the GOP & extreme right are trying to hijack it! I have written repeatedly my opinion on TP movement, its not genuine, sorry but its the truth look up Boston tea Party of 1773 and explain to me how todays TP is anything like the Boston TP!
You guys need to route out GOP progressives heck the entire GOP they all have to go, 9/11truthers & the birthers they are too extreme and radical. No you say?! Okay then put Rev. Manning as the head of the party and good luck taking over the Senate House and WH.
What are you prepared to do, is the question you must ask seriously yourself!? Its time for "out of the box" thinking in dealing with all politicians, bias fringe media and special interest groups who are only working for their own interest. Unconventional actions is what is going to be needed to affect real change through http://www.savingtherepublic.com
When I first heard of this PAC my suspicions of more political shenanigans surfaced. No more. I'm in. I have to channel the anger and frustration from walking into an ongoing progressive ambush. My marching orders please.
^^^^Watched Anarchist's Cookbook waaaaayyyyy too many times^^^^
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Go away fringe-boy and let the adults discuss political change.
Listen up teaparty patriots, you are the only hope the Democrats have of maintaining their congressional majorities in the middle of this recession. So I want you to go out there and nominate lots of candidates who think just like you and then speak out for what they believe. Now let's go out there and turn those clocks back… who's with me?
This is precisely how I envisioned this movement would evolve. Third party was never an option. In the current system, a PAC formed around the theme of ensuring liberty makes the most sense.
I will commit dollars to the cause and my best to gently persuade those conservative Democrats around me that they are indeed part of the Tea Party without knowing it.
I truly believe that God wishes us to stand up to the Progressives and take away their toys once and for all.
Lets watch the libs heads explode when we take back Roe vs Wade.
Lets rescind so many liberal politically correct lunacy laws that Soros and his crony lawyers go broke trying to defend them.
I see a third party movement going on. It's one that hasn't happened in a long time. I don't think it requires the conventions & big name speakers as we have had. The movement is doing just fine as long as we stay vigilant. I was in Washington for the rally & I support the trend America is taking. I almost feel like this transformation is better off without some talking head. It's about individuals coming together in their own communities & standing up for our rights. Many millions more are doing that. It was never about the parties for me, it was about the politics & how I felt as if our voice was not being heard. About saying no more liberties will I allow you to take away from me. I pray this is real change, but all the pacts in the world don't mean anything. Ask Neville Chamberlin how that worked out for him.
Great article Mr. Hennessey! Concise, clear and informative. Not too many people have had the inside scoop on what was happening to the Tea Party Movement and this explains the game. We should all pass this on to everyone. It would also be a good idea to provide us with a monthly roster of people these PACs support.
Scott Brown….and boom goes the Obama agenda. hahaha
With 41 votes in the senate now the Republicans are going to be forced to govern or look like obstructionists. I mean they always have been obstructionist, but now they are going to have to man up and admit it.
I don't find it hard to know" who these people are". If you can read, you can read "who they are", above in this succinct and precise article written by Bill, a founder of ELPAC. It is a movement to save America. People who write things that bash this idea certainly can't have listened in history class throughout school, because we should all know how hard freedom was to win from England and it's costs. It won't be as hard as that because our founding father's gave us guidelines to use. Why would anyone would find them"out of date" when they have served to protect us. Those rules have faithfully served us for more than 200 yrs. I, for one want to go back to square one and hopefully get 200 more good years out of those same guidelines. People won't have to die this time, they will only have to stand up and be counted for what is right and what is wrong.
While this is perhaps a step in the right direction, I'd like some more specifics.
You already missed the Illinois primary (big mistake, now we have Mark Kirk as our RINO choice). Are you geared up for Texas? How about the May primaries?
How will you select candidates? Will you have some method of scoring potential candidates? Who will make the ultimate decisions on the distribution of ELPAC funds? Do those who contribute to the PAC have some say in the process?
How do you plan to provide transparency? Will you have an easily accessible online database of all income and expenditures? Sunlight prevents mildew.
These are just a few of the questions that must necessarily be answered when a group of people appoint themselves as guardians of a grassroots movement. I'm not questioning your motives or your integrity, but you must be above all reproach. If not, the Statists will find any even slightly questionable material, twist it, spin it, and use it as a hammer against those very candidates you were trying to help.
And like I said, March 2 is coming fast – what are you doing about it?
True socialism would be great compared to what Obama and the neocons want. Remember, Bush and Obama are CFR buddies. They love things like tax payers bailing out banks (actually taking from the poor and giving to the rich) and nation-destroying "Free Trade." True socialism would be like Sarah Palin's very popular (among hard-core conservatives, too!) support for a program to share the profits of the oil being taken from Alaska and distributed to its residents. (Also, it is a states-rights issue.) We have a system of subsidizing losses and privatized profits now.
People like you WILL get fooled again….and again…..and again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Y2sAdDw98
This is awful of me to say, but heck, that never held anyone back. A little stylistic feedback: Next time you write one of these missives – say what's on your mind, finish, sit back, take a deep breath. Take a break. Then come back a few minutes, hours or a day later and remove the bosom-heaving language. We all know the cause is important, so the Theda Bara stuff is not needed…. Words like 'pray (said more than once), 'undying millions', 'hellfire', etc, will just diminish the message, not emphasize it. Yes we know from the picture that Penelope is tied to the tracks, we know the train is coming we see her writhing to escape – so the melodramatic subtitles could really be skipped – it's campy and smacks of religious-rightism, (which would be okay if that was the sole audience, but it's not). Please take this feedback in the constructive way in which it is meant.
To all you REAL Tea Party activists – the way to tell if you are dealing with someone trying to co-opt the movement to the benefit of the GOP is simple. An acid test. if they support American blood and treasure being wasted on Israel then you have a neocon infiltrator.
You couldn't get sh*t done with a super-majority. Pathetic assclowns.
Right. The Dumbf**k Democrats could have pushed through whatever they wanted, and still couldn't pass Lil' Barry Bam Bam's agenda. But the REPUBLICANS are the obstructionists. Riiiiiiight. You need to lay off the crack.
As for your BRILLIANT analysis of the tea party movement: People like you on the left are the reason Obama is failing. You're so arrogant and smug you can't see the outright rejection of your FAILED ideas. That's fine with me. Makes it all the more sweeter when we kick your pathetic socialist asses out of government. I'd even suggest we give federal dough to have your liberalism treated as the mental illness it is.
Beautiful strategy to avoid capture by the big parties and the risks of a third party organization – keep up the good work.
http://www.languageofliberty.com
You sound like one angry little poster… you need to calm down and take some deep breaths. It's no wonder the rest of the country thinks the teaparty is the party of hate.
Give the Republicans some credit… they are pretty good and being obstructionists.
Only a retard believes socialism would be great.
You know, I think I finally understand how you feel. I hate braindead liberals as much as you hate Jews. I'm tired of wasting America's treasure on lazy liberals and their idiotic causes. I think we should give all that money back to the people who actually work, not suck off the public teet.
I guess there are a lot of them in the Republican party that don't have a problem with this real-world implementation of it in Alaska, huh? It is a populist notion and most agree it is right on a visceral level. Time to cast off the banker-capitalist-mentality that has so destroyed the Republican Party or create another one.
The people who actually work tend to vote Democrat. Do you consider Golman-Sachs execs to be "working"? What do they produce with their work?
Anybody that shares a name with Steve McQueen is okay by me.
Wow Dhaffy
You sure got this bug about what Sarah did in Alaska.
The oil companies liked it, the people that live in Alaska liked it, the carabu (sp) liked it.
Anyway I do believe then topic on the table is the evolution of the Tea Party movement….
You are on board with this PAC thing…. aren't you?
"Give the Republicans some credit… they are pretty good and being obstructionists."
Democrats considered it patriotic to obstruct when they were in the minority. So if you're saying we're good at being patriotic well thanks but, we know.
We have never seen this kind of obstructionism in the senate. Every vote now demands cloture (60 votes) before it gets to the floor. The filibuster is being abused on a scale we have never seen.
This is hilariously sad for all the usual reasons.
1. Very few people in the U.S. want actual "socialism".
2. We have had, however, a mixed economy for several decades. And, the vast majority of Americans like it just fine.
3. If you don't want a mixed economy, you're welcome to leave. No, really: please go Galt. Just do it in a place where you aren't a moocher. If you go Galt in the U.S. you'll be mooching off our collective (horrors) national defense. So, the only place you can really go Galt is Somalia. We'll start a fund to help you get there.
4. Even if you the reader disagree with the above, I ask you to consider the list of what they're concentrating on: fiscal responsibility, limited government, national security, and low taxes. Notice anything missing from that list? It's a very important, fundamental issue that has a negative impact on three of those four, yet it's mostly off the TeaParty radar. If you don't know what it is, click here.
But dissent is patriotic!!! Remember? Also how is that the Republicans fault? Before Scott Brown, which is fairly recent, the Democrats HAD 60 votes so it didn't matter what Republicans did. Seems like you have obstructionist Democrats you should be complaining about.
"What do they produce with their work? "
Employment for those Democrats you say "actually work".
Gotta follow orders from liberal headquarters or they will revoke my club membership.
Nope.
If you don't believe in prayer that is up to you, but for those who do believe in God and in our need to look to Him for guidance and for help, it is good to know that those who are striving to regain some of our nation's greatness before it is too late, also believe (as did many of the founding fathers) in the necessity of Divine help.
America: Unless you are a communist like mikatollah, please don't encourage the dribble through reinforcing such nonsense by responding to it! If so, in the furute I'll just assume that you are also communist using such dribble, then, by all means, go for it! I don't know because I never post on his site since I got his dribble agenda!
Because, for a change, they are listening to their constituents, and this time they knoe we damn well mean it when we say we will boot them out on their ass. I have not seen ONE single item for which I want my Congresspersons to vote for, so, I am glad they are the party of NO.
Damn the filibuster being abused, there Mickey.
What about the abuse to the American economy and federal budget.
The grandchildren of your future chemist son are going to have to pay for for all the foolishnes in Washington and you are concerned about what is happening to the F___KIN filibuster.
Whose Air force were you in anyway????
Penelope is tied to the tracks…LMAO!!! The sound of Muttley snickering is going through my head…what a blast from the past…thanks for the laugh!
Rich, we are an ideologically divided country… almost 50-50. Nothing is going to get accomplished without compromise, by either side. And once the voters figure out who is preventing political solutions for public problems they will be punished at the polls.
I am not going to "click here", just SAY IT and stop using the thread to get hits. Anyone with half a brain knows that when you click on anything that says "CLICK HERE" is just asking for a virus or some form of malware.
How hilarious is that? Oh, and don't forget to vote.
I am not going to "click here", just SAY IT and stop using the thread to get hits. Anyone with half a brain knows that when you click on anything that says "CLICK HERE" is just asking for a virus or some form of malware.
USAF baby… proud boneman!
Each generation has their cross to bear. Ours was the debt of WWII and the legacy of racism, theirs is going to be budget deficits.
OK so you aren't buying it Dhaffy.
It's a fantastic idea,…. but noooooo,… you are going to let this Jewish thing you have get in the way.
Best thing that could happen to you.
Conversely, I am out until it elects a more balanced leadership. 6 people is pitiful, and they only represent 4 Tea Parties for crying out loud.
I love the idea, and maybe this is a good start, but I'll continue donating to individual candidates for now.
We're already seeing it at our 9/12 meetings where all kinds of local politicos claiming to be conservatives are showing up… trust no one, my friends.
Racked up by scumbags and idiots who think like you…
Listen up Pelosi-lovers, you are among a plethora of people whom I have to thank for waking people up and actually learning about the issues today. Please, Democrats, persist in nominating vapid, arrogant liberals for Washington who use self-congratulation as a basis for their social policy, and I will thank you for doing so this November when those libs are nothing but a mirage.
George W. Bush didn't think like me… either did Ronald Reagan. And I wouldn't call them scumbags.
Feed me, feed me
Well lets go, I have no problem. I'm giving to this PAC.
Also recommend: ALLEN WEST as candidate in FL congressional race. He's an outstanding candidate, an African- American conservative voice and retired career Lt col. Give directly.
Umm, neither racked up the debt; Congress did and always has. The House of Representatives initiates all spending bills.
Good grief, at least try to be smart, OK? Otherwise you're just easy pickings…
Both sighed deficit spending bills into law every year they were in office. 16 years with lots of lip service for fiscal responsibility but not one balanced budget submitted to the congress between them.
I think another REAL acid test for booting infiltrators from the movement is to let them talk long enough to find out if they are a conspiricy whack job and a REAL bigot. In a quick sentance you've shown that you're off the rails. If statements like yours get a platform you will surely destroy the entire movement by associating the TPM with your racism. The Democrats & Progressives by way of the MSM are drooling for a chance to get an idiot like you on TV as a spokesperson for the TPM. Limited Govt, Lower Taxes … and can I suggest, no racists.
You conveniently forget the 8 years of Clinton's presidency as well.
And no, there never was a budget surplus; it's a myth because the so-called surplus never included the interest on the deficit…
You have that right Sarah! This Steve McQueen works hand and hand with those of liberty and for what is RIGHT for America 100%.
Give this an opportunity to give you their entire agenda. We had a Conditional Endorsement with our Tea Party Candidates that came to meet with us.
How many of you out there make it a ' WORD OF MOUTH' approval of candidates and nothing more.
Have them 'commit to you and the constituents with a pledge' for what they will uphold.
It all begins with the Constitution and I believe this will all come into place as EL PAC disclose more as they complete their web site. Works for us and it will Nationally.
I second that good luck… its time for a name change anyway…
Tea Party '09 = Desert Shield '90
Desert Storm '91 = Patriot Party '10
What many in the TP don't realize is how badly the GOP & extreme right are trying to hijack it! I have written repeatedly my opinion on TP movement, its not genuine, sorry but its the truth look up Boston Tea Party of 1773 and explain to me how todays TP is anything like the Boston TP!
You guys need to route out GOP progressives heck the entire GOP they all have to go, 9/11truthers & the birthers they are too extreme and radical. No you say?! Okay then put Rev. Manning as the head of the party and good luck taking over the Senate House and WH.
What are you prepared to do, is the question you must ask seriously yourself!? Its time for "out of the box" thinking in dealing with all politicians, bias fringe media and special interest groups who are only working for their own interest. Unconventional actions is what is going to be needed to affect real change throughhttp://www.savingtherepublic.com
You make very good sense. It wouldn't be the first time a movement was hijacked.
were you cloned from a mynah bird? all you do is repeat, repeat, repeat, you ever have an original idea or thought of your own?, I highly doubt it,
Good questions. I would like to hear some answers myself.
that's a good one, miriam – penelope tied to the tracks.
i will admit that i am more than a little iffy on the remainder of your reaction (in the sweep of history, i tend to give religion a much more important role) but the penelope on the tracks line…..good one.
what, dhasselhoff, pray tell, is wrong with Israel? and how, if you will, is American blood being shed and apparently treasure being spent on this charming nation?
i'd love to hear what you think.
I suppose you're speaking to your reflection in the mirror?To you I say~ Go away fringe-freak and let the adults
discuss political change. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Thank God we can obstruct your Facist agenda. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Also the most stupid of many, many stupid remarks you've made.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Why don't you address tyketto's very valid point, that even with a mafority in the House and Senate, your precious jackasses still couldn't pass the most coveted of their debacles; Healthcare, Cap and Trade, Global warming agenda. Why could they not pass these boondoggles? Why mik, why?
It's not because once the American people realized what was about to be perpetrated upon them in the name of Facism the tide of public sentiment turned your diabolical plan and soundly refuted it, is that why?You must be smoking crack.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Actually, Einy, I believe we are the ones that are stalking. We are stalking the RINO's and the so-called moderates, to be removed and replaced with candidates to our liking. The TPM, and Conservatism in general, is on the rise and on the move in this country, and EVERYONE is taking notice.That's why we must stay vigilant, as our FF's taught us .,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
We do what we can. What are you doing about it? Freedom is never free. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Didn't take long, did it? We can always depend on dhaffy for consistency, to be an idiot consistently.
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Melodrama? Maybe you don't get it. We're talking about our future, the future of our children and the future of generations to come. Melodramatic? Wake up and smell the coffee, sister. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Uh-oh. Obviously you have never seen dhaffy(thanks Ralph) post before.Wrong question, just let it go away, believe me.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
I always enjoy the entertainment value provided in posts by the far right…. However, the comments are usually funnier still and these don't dissappoint.
In addition to being incredibly wrong, your almost violent anger shows through. You ever watch an episode of something like cops and the more upset and whacky the "perps" act, the more entertaining it is. It's the same with you cons.
He's good practice, being an unrepentant Facist idiot. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
You know Ii don't usually waste my time talking to bigots or one trick ponys like youself, so Dhasaelhoff, you aren't related to the Mazel tovs are you?… But I digress if you are so inclined I would be 'horored' to hear a cogent explanion of your antisemite position with salient points if you please…
Go for it Her Dhasselhoff… But remember the mods are watching so keep it clean if you can.
TPM Caucus can go far if the caucus is designed like a congress. The congressional design is where it should be headed. Vote and hold elections similar to congress, which allows for the TPM to remain leaderless, but unified. Before this can be achieved, TPM needs to create a quasi-manifesto that includes the voices from each branch and then combined the suggestions into a complete manifesto. Read the Great Experiment or Madison's journals to see how the declaration and constitution was designed.
Under no circumstance should a third party be created or a Ross Perrot repeat will happen. Read the Declaration to understand why not. Remain a voice set apart from the RNC. If anyone is to be co-opt, let it be the RNC. TPM, but RNC in name only because of identity politics that are deeply embedded in our country.
LOL. thank you hanzo. forewarned is…..forewarned.
I had hoped some sort of political organization or even a third party could emerge from the Tea Parties. I hope this is the beginning of something big. Good luck.
I have given up of reforming the Republican Party. It is just as statist in its nature as the Democrats. They let conservatives down again and again.
The people who track budgets and deficits are the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). They are non-partisan and use the same criteria each year because if they changed the way they track the numbers their comparisons would be meaningless. There is no denying that the federal budgets ran a surplus for the first time in the 90s since 1969. In 1998 we had a surplus of $69 billion, in 1999 the surplus was $125 billion and in 2000 the surplus was $236 billion.
So Clinton had budget surpluses for three of his eight years in office. If it were not true, but Republican congress would not have been trying to claim the credit for it…. and the Cato Institute would not have been trying to give Ronald Reagan the credit. But Bill Clinton was the president and he takes the credit or blame for the things that occur on his watch.
So to say the budgets in this Clinton years didn't include interest on the debt is not true.
Good luck, and Godspeed, Tea Party patriots!
And to the Leftists in our government: DON'T TREAD ON ME!
Surely I'm not the only one concerned that this entire "Tea Party" movement, and the momentum it is enjoying right now is being stalked, with laser like precision, by the GOP. The GOP is almost as desperate right now as the Democrats, and they will, I believe, try their damnedest to infiltrate and shape shift as a group towards the ideals that the TPM stands for, and the ideals that they should have been upholding this entire time. The lesser of two evils is certainly the GOP, but I'm not to sure I can stomach the GOP on a national level anymore. To much Progressive involvement and entanglement for my taste.
It's getting harder and harder to really know who these people are. I believe one of the main focuses of the TPM should be to exposing everyone equally. Just the same as our government should be treating us all equally. Above all, the TPM needs to remain at the grass roots level. The people are not going to corrupt themselves…Only politicians can do that. Hopefully this collaboration will lend lots of data and information for us to sieve through and digest before election time. Knowledge is the real power after all…
I try to stay consistent. Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable.
I appreciate that you admit it. You have more courage than the right wing politicians who are doing the obstructing.
His post was vulgar and disrespectful. I don't respond to those kinds of posts… at least not the way they would like.
Ahh yes, mika. However, there's that one little fact we differ on here. I view obstructing a Facist agenda as a good thing, while I suppose you don't.
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Hanzo, I was directing the question specifically to Mr. Hennessy and/or ELPAC. It's been my experience that the TEA Party members, loosely defined though they may be, are already doing what they can. I'm not starting a PAC and asking for other people's money, so I don't really have the same requirement of transparency that ELPAC does.
That being said, I'm proud of what I've done. I've protested, I've voted in my primary, I've donated money, I've blogged everywhere I can. I brought AJ with me to protests and polls and made sure that he understands at his tender age that voting is not just a right, it's a responsibility. We lost here in Illinois because unlike the Hoffman and Brown, campaigns, we got absolutely zero support from outside our own state.
And make no mistake, this election will be won or lost in the primaries, not the general elections. Because if we end up with a bunch of squishy RINOs on the Republican ticket, we will be no better off than we are now.
So how about you, Hanzo? What have you done?
Let me get this straight now….
We the Tea Party folks are going to do this PAC thing to assure that the folks that move into the Capital Building think and act the same way we do…..
And since laws and things that affect each and everyone of our lives are passed in this big ol building with this big ol dome…….
And since ain't nothing gets passed out in the lawns, streets and assembly spaces that we gather…
Hell folks…. this sure sounds like a winner to me.
I for one did not go to the Tea Party in New Lenox IL last Labor Day just to gab…
Lets just make sure the folks we select are aware of the length the leash they are on.
Being from Chicago,… I can attest this political machine thing is not working to well……
I keep voting for them and all they do is kick my head in.
Party of hate. I love how the left project themselves on people they disagree with. We can all see which is the party of hate simply by flashing a picture of Sarah Palin at any Democrat.
Mickeyyyyyyyyy
Being an obstructionist should be evaluated good or bad only by what is being obstructed……
Unless of course you get marching orders from CBS, NBC, ABC……..etc.
If so, than yeahhhh, your point becomes a valid one….Just say no to Obama….. is obstructionist
So long as they put AMERICA and not Israel first. They won't. This is another neocon front organization.
You're flat out wrong. This is precisely the problem; the CBO DOESN'T include interest payments on the deficit.
If you need proof, go find a chart showing the DEFICIT year to year through 1990-2009. You'll see that at NO TIME do the bars go down, which is what would happen if there was a surplus.
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The Republican aversion to government is exactly what makes them unqualified to govern. It was no accident they failed during the Bush years. Let them into power again and they will fail again. Easiest prediction I will ever make.
I know I am in a minority here, but I'd like to see a third party. I think back to the Republican Revolution of 1994. Once in power, the Republicans governed as conservatives maybe 15 minutes before joining the Washington establishement.
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