#Occupy Movement Is Unsafe for Women: Attacks and Threats Show Dangers of Anarchist Organizing
by Brandon DarbyAs the Occupy manifestation of the “Global Peace and Justice Movement” begins to decay and break down into the predictable anarchy, violence and arrests, it is becoming clear that the protests pose special dangers for women.
Even the left has begun to admit it. The Nation tries to laud the role of women in Occupy Wall Street but can’t avoid the truth:
The dozen women I spoke to for this story—most of them queer-identified and/or women of color—have witnessed varying amounts of offensive behavior, such as unwanted touching or use of casually misogynist language, within the movement…
Ashwini Hardikar, one protest participant, recently wrote a powerful blog post about two such experiences that occurred within an hour: a male protester giving her an unwanted hug, who then expressed shock when she responded (loudly) that she found his hug unwelcome and intrusive, and a young man chanting “Lady Liberty is a whore” and defending himself when she questioned his language. This kind of explaining and educating can be exhausting for women.
Here are a just a few recent incidents:
- A 14-year-old runaway was allegedly sexually assaulted at Occupy Dallas.
- A 19-year-old student activist was allegedly raped at Occupy Cleveland.
- A man was arrested on charges of indecent exposure to children at Occupy Seattle.
- A female reporter was threatened by activists at Occupy Oakland.
And even more attacks are listed in John Nolte’s “rap sheet” on the Occupy protests. The threats to women are not confined to the periphery of the Occupy movement but exist at the heart of the main Occupy Wall Street protest in New York.
As the Washington Times noted this morning:
Crime in Occupy Wall Street’s encampment Zucotti Park might be worse than the public realizes. According to The New York Post, crime at the park, which included a homeless man allegedly pulling a knife during an argument as well as claims of sexual assaults, is so out of control many protesters have resorted to a “stop snitching” rule. In fact, reports The Post, one NYPD officer said, that much of the crime goes unreported as a result. “What’s happening in there is staying in there,” said the New York City cop.
Despite these concerns, Occupy has been discouraging victims of sexual assaults from consulting police. In New York, organizers have created a group called “Safer Spaces OWS” that attempts to deal with threats to women “without involving the police or the court system unless the person wants that.” At the same time, the Occupy movement has used idealized images of women to promote itself and attract new recruits. The contradiction is striking.
Some on the left are beginning to criticize attempts by some Occupy organizers to blame the victims for speaking out—such as Jezebel:
It’s also true that people who aren’t in charge can be asked to subsume their interests to those of the group as a whole — or even demonized if they speak up in ways perceived to discredit the group. That happened to the Cleveland victim when one protester (prominently featured on the local news) accused her of being a plant.
There have been a few improvements at some Occupy protests, partly in response to increased media attention to sexual crimes. For example, after news emerged that Occupy Baltimore had been discouraging women from approaching police with complaints of assault, the organizers changed their policy, according to the Baltimore Sun:
Gone is controversial language that said the protesters would rather handle complaints amongst themselves, and that while they wouldn’t prevent someone from going to police, they would prefer not to involve law enforcement.
The memo now reads, in part:
“Instances of sexual abuse and assault will be handled according to the expressed desires of the victim. The Security and Medical teams are equipped with a list of resources, including contact information for the police, hospitals, sexual assault hotlines, and women’s shelters. In these instances, #Occupy Baltimore welcomes the involvement of the Baltimore City Police and encourages victims to report crimes.”
The media has tended to treat incidents of sexual assault at Occupy protests as isolated cases, because few journalists want to acknowledge the radical heart of the movement. It should be no surprise that an event thrown by anarchists has turned into anarchy. Those on the left who have acknowledged the problem have made a small step in the right direction, but they continue to miss the obvious solutions, because they would prefer to blame social conditions like patriarchy and racism for women’s vulnerability at Occupy.
The reality is that ideological underpinnings of the Occupy movement–such as collectivism, “consensus” decision making, and antipathy towards law enforcement—often lend themselves to the disorder that predators see as opportunity. Far from “empowering” women, the Occupy movement’s anarchist and socialist principles and policies are exposing female activists to greater danger. They cannot maintain order because they are in the midst of rebelling against it.
There can be no more excuses. It’s time for common sense to trump ideology. If the organizers of Occupy are incapable of preserving law and order among the participants, the public authorities must assert themselves. One victim more is one too many.







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Rhetorical of course but this one really doesn't make sense to me:
http://www.dailycardinal.com/news/occupy-madison-...
"A neighboring hotel's staff alleged voiced concerns about having to recently escort hotel employees to and from bus stops late at night due to inappropriate behavior, such as public masturbation"
Is this some new form of protest? Public masturbation? What exactly are they protesting again?
close these filth camps down now.arrest the demonstrtors. the businesses that are losing money should take legal action against the obstructors and the facilitators of these law breakers. I smell a soros $$$$$$.
This is the outcome of the "free for all" form of governance that Occupy think they want. The cookie always crumbles.
Deadmocrap sodomizes America and the world….past time for CURE….well?
Is Ashwini aware that the Sixties "peace and love" hippie scene was just a way for certain kinds of men to get free sex and use and abuse women under the facade of "saving the world" and "being free?" Haight Ashbury was REALLY Charles Manson types, dressed up in the disguise of love beads and long hair, prostituting women easily as long as they flashed peace signs and talked about harassing society and told women that free love was helping the poor. Of course it was just a trick, and mostly poor women who got the shaft.
These same ex-hippies are the ones running this Occupy show, together with money from rich crooks like George Soros who use Marxism to make more money..
The Sixties and Seventies protestniks were also sociopathic, inferior, aggressive males who used the facade of leftism to basically treat women (and everyone else) like garbage so the protestniks could steal and take away people's rights and control them.
The women involved with these now much older protestnik Occupy organizers are like Iosbaker's wife and Elizabeth Warren- she and her friends see you as tools, Ashwini, sheep to be used and cast away like trash. These are women who are parasites and think they have the right to control others. They actually hate most women. They hate most everybody.
THIS IS MARXISM, Ashwini. The parasites and the crooks take over. They trick you with their lies, try to convince you that if you do what they want, you'll be a good person and help the world, and that you'll get a cut of the take (and of course, they keep all the loot for the Marxist 1 percent who run the show and extort business.). It's a trick, a way to use you and everyone else, and take your money, your rights, your dignity, even potentially your life. Marxism is the death of human rights.
“Sex, Drugs and Rock-n-Roll!” Come on girls, get with the program, what did you expect with these undisciplined lazy good for nothing post-pubescent boys. Oh, and by the way enjoy the snowstorm, snuggle up.
They are protesting civilization.
Just imagine an eight-year old boy, sitting on the kitchen floor, pounding on an upturned soup pot with a big wooden spoon, screaming at the top of his lungs all the new words he learned from the latest rated-R DVD his parents' rented.
Now, image that little boy physically maturing to 25, but not advancing one day emotionally.
Public masturbation should come as no surprise, using this model.
Democrats just doing what they do best. They want everything for free, so I guess women must be on thier list also.
More of the same. Generally, they are simply lawless and amoral, in every way.
I see their latest tack is to recruit ex-vets, and to try to persuade police officers in switching over to the dark side. (Like this). It is our police and our military that confines them at the moment, so they try to break down those obstructions.
It's appropriate that some of them shout "we are legion" while they raise chaos. Like the story of the demonically possessed guy in the Bible (Luke 8:30).
I have visited the local OWS camp and in general the average male "living" in the park couldn't get lucky if he was the only man on an all women 60 day cruise ship vacation with free booze. Visit and see for yourself. It's mob mentality 101 with zero social skills. Take away free streaming porn in moms basement and well….
"If the organizers of Occupy are incapable of preserving law and order among the participants, the public authorities must assert themselves."
I agree in principle, but you somehow assume progressive leaders like Mayor Doomberg or that mouse of a mayor in Oakland have the intestinal fortitude to do what is best for all of the citizens they represent- protect their lives and property. However, in reality, these leaders (along with the Marxist regime in DC) have stood in support of the occupiers. By condoning it, they own it.
I can't fathom why someone would ding you down for this. It's spot on.
That would be my bet as well. They could set up pleasure tents, and when these boys pleasure themselves you could hook electrodes to their elbow and probably generate enough energy to run the maggot camp…green energy?
And Imam Obama supports them.!
/ spit !
I am pretty sure Obama is connected by way of ACORN to all of this.
#occupy is not American in any way shape or form,that is why it has Obama's support.
/ spit !
The mayor of any city that allows these thugs to continue occupying business districts MUST be booted out of office.
This is a Tea Party moment! We are so focused on Comrade Dear Leader and the commiecrats in DC that we lose sight of the fact that all politics are local. Reclaim your towns, cities and counties……as you do that you will also reclaim your states and the nation.
I still have no idea what these people are about. Supposedly they are anarchists but they want more government control over people in the form of income redistribution. Apparently these people are pro-government, anarchist, and communist all at the same time. And they smell like urine. Weird.
Good post. On target.
Survival of the fittest… Until they go to jail for criminal actions.
Anarchy: a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government ……
Any questions as to why, these people are in tents????
Blame it on the lawlessness of our current criminal administration!!!!
This video explains very clearly what these "anarchists" are all about (time index 3:50), as part of an overall primer on how all forms of government ultimately settle in to two types.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE
"Anarchist Organizing"
Strange contradiction in terms.
My father-in-law was a commissar in the North Korean Army during the Korean war. He now lives in Japan and had a career as a successful international salesman, business owner and writer. Obviously he has long since renounced communism. His overall comment on Marxism is that it is a "False Religion".
A long time ago in one of my college political science courses I read about "True Believers". A True Believer is essentially a fanatical supporter of any political theory be it Marxism or National Socialism (Nazis). These people find the reason for their existence, their purpose and salvation in these movements. Today that list of movements/beliefs would be expanded to include feminism, homosexual rights and environmentalism.
True believers can and will do anything to promote their cause….because God or their concept of some ultimate right and wrong tells them it is not just okay but the right thing to do. If they use their fellow comrades along the way so what…it was for the cause.
Crumbles even easier when it's frozen. Looks like Mom Nature is about to give us a gift and them a test of their warm clothes.
My own experiences with censorship, ageism, and misogyny from the #OWS bunch, that I have been researching and mixing with for a while now, were apparently not unique.
Exactly. Crap like this invariably is about smokescreening for some variation on the user theme.
Don't worry.. the tea party is watching and we will be back in force after it's safe to take to the streets again.
YES!!! Remember terrorist William Ayers? He forced his girlfriend to sleep with his married black roommate — told her if she did not, she was a 'racist'. Basically she was raped.
May I steal your paragraph for my article?
Things got a little out of hand.
It's just the banks and that lying SOB Bush and…
I would never hurt you. You know that.
There is nothing surprising here. Marxism is a dictatorship. Re-read George Orwell's Animal Farm. Remember how bad the farmer was when the pigs turned into leaders and stirred the other animals to revolt and drive off the farmer? The pigs wrote the 10 commandments with #1 being "All animals are equal." And the one about "Four legs good, two legs bad." If you read the book you know the ending. The first commandment was changed to "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." The pigs grew fatter as the other animals starved because it was hard work to be a leader….so much thinking to do. The pigs started walking on two feet and eating meat.
Anyone, male or female, who gets involved in the occupy movement is a fool and a drone. They deserve what they get where it is being raped by a comrade or a cops club to the head. Marxism is a seductive evil that has corrupted and ruined entire nations. We can not let that happen to America.
Nobama in 2012!
You're right about being safe. No sense giving the other side a photo op to be used by the MSM to spin as "evidence" of the Tea Party using violence.
Starting to look like "Egyptian Spring" there……
I didn't think that anarachists organized…
"Anarchist Organizing" ???
I LOL John… exactly what I was thinking.
Add self-governing to that list and it's even more amusing.
Thanks for the first giggle of my day. ; )
Happy Trails!
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“Life is a box of chocolates.”
Forest…. you can't keep doing this!!!!
You focus too heavily on individual cases. Take off your black/white glasses, OWS offers the entire gamut.
The transsexual FTM Marine finds his bride of his choice, a crossdressing ballerina.
Two lovers have impassioned sex in a miniature tent.
Young Muslim hero falls in love with a Christian valkyrie, both ready to overthrow the Zionist regime.
Kentatwater™ marks us as opponents of civilization. But nothing could be further from the truth. These emancipated protests contribute to sociocultural evolution and allow the culture to sprout.
Isolated cases of rape is nothing compared to the banking industry's devastating impact on society. Look at the big picture, capitalist greed has indirectly killed more children than any other system.
Well, we all know what floats to the top… Is that a 'natural' or 'nature' organization?
Do we need more proof that leftists hate women?
Dr. Repolickcant has the cure for yes then…before the?
Only the Breeder women.
Now the LGBT and the Hostesses from the View is a different story.
“Look at the big picture, capitalist greed has indirectly killed more children than any other system.”
That is either truly ignorant or a blatant lie.
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow…………
Evenings with your father-in-law, over a drink or two, must be utterly fascinating.
A few years ago, I was visiting my sister-in-law's house (she is a big lefty and former public school teacher and liberation theology true believer…a real trifecta). One of her sons married an Indian girl, and her parents came from India for a visit. They are industrialists and quite wealthy and worldly. The mother spoke of their trip to Cambodia, and I perked up, asking her if she visited Angkor Wat (I'm a photography buff, and would love to visit such a place of such breathtaking beauty). She said no, but that she visited the memorial site for those slain by the Khmer Rouge. She spoke of the enormous collection of skulls, collected from the killing fields, piled high.
My sister-in-law's discomfort was visible, but she said nothing to her son's mother-in-law. When I responded with the fact that communists are great for democide, sis-in-law snapped at me:
"What about us?! What about what we did to the 'Native Americans?!'"
I'm so proud to say that my wife, her sister, snapped right back:
"What do you mean, US?! Have you or I ever killed ANYONE? Who here thinks it was a great thing to break treaties with the American Indians? No one. Yet communists are still communists!"
I love my wife.
"capitalist greed has indirectly killed more children than any other system"
Indirectly? I guess that doesn't count all the children directly killed by Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, or Hitler.
I think you forgot the /sarc tag. What you describe is devolution. There is nothing evolved about any of the above.
Thank goodness for global warming or cooling. Or whatever it is they're calling it these days. I'm just glad it's here earlier than usual.
<happy sigh> From the NorthEast
So you acknowledge that Planned Parenthood is a greedy, capitalist system…….?
Oxfordb*tches sez:
You focus too heavily on individual cases. Take off your black/white glasses, OWS offers the entire gamut.
The transsexual FTM Marine finds his bride of his choice, a crossdressing ballerina.
Two lovers have impassioned sex in a miniature tent.
Young Muslim hero falls in love with a Christian valkyrie, both ready to overthrow the Zionist regime.
Kentatwater™ marks us as opponents of civilization. But nothing could be further from the truth. These emancipated protests contribute to sociocultural evolution and allow the culture to sprout.
Isolated cases of rape is nothing compared to the banking industry's devastating impact on society. Look at the big picture, capitalist greed has indirectly killed more children than any other system.
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This is parody, right? I didn't think it was possible to write satire about these STD-infected crap-caked loiterers, but you managed to pull it off! Pretending to object to the content of this report, while simultaneously using a term demeaning to women in your name, is just icing on the cake!
Bravo!
So, let's review what we know about OWS . . .
They cover-up rapes?
There has been violence against women?
There has been theft?
They oppose soap?
David Duke (KKK) has endorsed them?
And these little &%$#@!'s are supposed to be just like The Tea Party ? I call B.S. !
It just started snowing in NJ 20 minutes ago.
Occupy Wall Street is in for a "fun" weekend.
If we're real lucky, the NY Dept of Public Works will dump street snow in Zucotti park like they've done in the past.
Actually, dumb ass, socialism has killed more people during peace time than all modern wars combined. I LOVE the moral relativism. You douche bags will always commit the most heinous crimes and use this defense. Evil is as regressives do.
Capitalist greed had NOTHING to do with it. See, in a capitalist system there are no such things as bailouts. Obamugabe was the single greatest recipient of Wall St and finance campaign money in US history. So we subsidized their risk taking beacuse they knew WE would pay for losses. If they had no safety net, NONE of those activities would have taken place. It's gov't intrusion that is almost always the source of economic woes. This has been shown throughout history in civilizations all over the world.
"Isolated cases of rape is nothing" Hear that America? This statement speaks volumes. Even rape is to be used to further the advancement of the leftists cause. PRICELESS.
The OWS crowd are basically anarchists. No laws apply. Rape is tolerated under these circumstances.
As much as I hate cold weather…. I have been praying for a blizzard be visited upon them like has never been seen before. It would be entertaining watching them try to build igloos.
Quick….. make as much man-made CO2 as you can.
Looks like prayers do get answered.
Now wouldn't that be sweet revenge?
There is even a song that kindly fits the occasion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjZ-lE0kj84&fe... .
Your right, I think part of the progressive movement related to these thugs and organizers of the OWS was the hope that the Tea Party would come out to debate them and when done the progressive attacks of violence would begin. This would surely be used as a "we told you so" moment blaming all violence on the tea party types as the instigators. The media would us their usual left stance and show only those incidents which can be twisted towards the tea party as violent, racists, etc.
That would be the 'natural order' of things. Kind of makes you look differently at the Presidency now, doesn't it? We've definitely got a turd in the White House at the moment!
Pretty weak. You guys continue to try to play the liberals game and you become liberals. How about unwanted touching in the office? Hmmm, see how this is all aimed to destroy the movement. You can't really oppose the Tea Party II (OWS) so you try to impugn its character with this.
Yes, actually, you do.
You are more correct.
'Anarchist Organization'
There's an oxymoron for you!
Actually, these 'demonstrations' demonstrate just exactly what the problem is with American society. There they are folks! Those are the people who are killing the American way of life. Too bad they feel comfortable enough to congregate in large groups without consequences. I guess we let the problem go unattended for too long. Now, drastic measures will be required to correct the problem. It's going to get worse before it gets better…if it is ever going to get better. It could all fly apart just as these perverts are hoping for. Time will tell…'cause we ain't gonna do squat about any of it it would appear.
You have a great wife! Surprise her with some roses….she sounds like a gem.
My father in law is a GREAT guy. The first time I spoke to him he told me that I was the son he never had…and he has treated me like that every since. Because of my military and Agency background he has opened up to me about a lot of demons that have haunted him since the war…the worst of the demons deal with how he mocked his family's religious beliefs (devout Catholics) when he went North before the war started.
He loves beer and we spend time exploring micro breweries and talking when he visits.
Yes, the Founders created a nation of "businesses" selling crap from China. Riiight.
See, the thing is you have had your head buried in "business" for so long willfully ignorant about the CHARACTER and NATURE of the majority of people who have been indoctrinated by the Left to be anti-White, which means anti-American, for so long that it is a shock to you. This is the plan from the beginning when they invaded the schools. You didn't mind a certain subset when it was called the Tea Party. Nor would I mind it if these people were copies of the founders – White nationalists who seek liberty. But this is not the case.
What has HAPPENED to these United States of America ? This type of anarchial mob hysteria would have never been tolerated in the past MUCH LESS have support by the President of the United States !
People ? This is the face and mentality of the Democrat Party turned socialist, marxist and soon anarchial in full depth. It will be the destruction of this country if not immediately stopped. Where are our leaders ? ON EITHER SIDE ! ! ! !
These are Obama's people. He has said so. So lets see a campaign poster of Obama with rape, masturbation, violence, vulgarity and filth all over it. Perfect.
The Tea Party is made of the waning few Americans who have Middle Class jobs. Those are being exported by the globalists (who use terms like "Free Trade").
You have a great wife! Surprise her with some roses….she sounds like a gem.
You know, you are absolutely right. I need to do something extra special for her!
I'd love a chance to sit down to a beer with you gents. I am a micro brew enthusiast, and a lapsed homebrewer. My favorite bottled brand right now is Lagunitas. Everything I've tried by them, thus far, has been magnificent.
Again, this is nothing compared to the rapes committed as a result of the capitalist model.
When a country treats a large percentage of their countrymen as second-class citizens, increased crime is a natural side effect.
So, to a blown out women such as yourself, the raping of women to achieve an end is acceptable. Again, priceless. And VERY telling. I nominate you as the postergirl for the left and of the OWS movement.
My guess, common decency.
I nominate you as the postergirl of the left.
Don't be too hasty, Majiic12. I still think this is all just satire. I know it's hard to tell sometimes, because all too often when these loiterers spout off in their hallucinogen-addled earnest, it all just sounds like a bad joke, but this b*tches person is ratcheting the inanity up an extra notch…if not two.
It's a really good routine, I must say.
___". So lets see a campaign poster of Obama with rape, masturbation, violence, vulgarity and filth all over it."___
I just hope these occupiers don't wimp out and continue this till next November.
They are only exposing the left for what they truly are.
And "Real Americans " will not put up with it !
Soap is oppressive…unless it's made by a lesbian feminist anarcho-syndicalist commune, cast in the shape of Aileen Wuornos' privates, is suspended by hemp rope, and is patchouli-scented.
All true. We know this is true by Hussein's choice for "safe schools czar."
Could be I guess. If so I do owe an apology and will offer one up.
Peace.
Your ad hominem attacks which irresponsibly denigrate my person are amusing.
If you disprove my point, I'll give you a medal.
Here you go: Communism, A History by Richard Pipes, 2001, just 175 pages, on Amazon. You see we all have had this problem: The true facts about Lenin were never in our school books so it is hard to recognize evil when you see it return. If you'll take a little time and read this you will see paragraph after paragraph the administration agenda, almost in order: Give aways to ethnic groups, rile up the cultural losers to protest, class warfare and of course coming soon wealth confiscation. The Bolshevik Revolution came after Lenin took control of the government from within. Why did he do it? Hate and revenge! Nothing weird. History repeating itself for those who are concerned enough to check it out.
The chefs at the free organic kitchen organized to kick out the homeless or others they felt were beneath the quality of the protesters. The thugs have organized a security force to keep them away from the kitchen. Now that is liberals for you – no free food for the homeless.
Read up on socialist greed. They kill hundreds of milliions to stay in power. It is in lots of books.
I hear fear, raging anger, and self righteous indignation, but little use of critical thinking skills. Over-generalization is the bane of clear headed thinking. Just as it is illogical to blame the whole conservative movement for the actions of a few mad bombers, it is just as illogical to blame the occupation wall street movement for the sexist actions of some of its participants. Discrediting ideas by discrediting the messenger is standard fare these days, but logically, the two are distinctly different. We can all find blame in others who are not like us, but the path to self awareness is discovering our commonality. That starts by questioning our own way of communicating. The hate speech in this thread exposes a dangerous trend of concrete thinking used to justify violent tendencies. I know that life subordinated to the whims of the market and plundering plutocracies is hard, but there is no need to take it out on those who challenge the illegitimate power structure that crushed the American dream. The market is rigged, and Brandon makes his 10 pieces of silver convincing the base they should hate those who throw a spot light on that fact.
I disagree. These protesters are young and impressionable. They are looking for answers. If only the union leaders and Marxists show up the youth swing to that direction. Go to the Occupy Events. Bring your "End the Fed" signs and "Governments create corporations" signs. Go and protest the Federal Reserve printing $14,000,000,000,000 and loaning it to foreign banks at 0% interest. Go! Be Friendly! Agree to disagree! And when someone asks you a question. Tell them big government created the crisis in housing. Big government created the banking crisis. Big government created the student loan problems and the tuition increases. Big government and their regulations create high costs in health care. Big government steals your savings by printing money. Let them know what you really think. They need to hear both sides and 80% of the 99% will side with logic.
I've got enough medals, Helen. And btw, I offer no apolgies. You own your posts. You believe women can be raped to advance an agenda. Your a reprobate. How's that for denigration?
These folks deserve the rats, the criminal attacks, the filth they are sharing. If they think they are the brave new world of post America living like cavemen, wait til there is no electricity for their heat generators and no food for their free organic buffet. They will just sit in the street and whine.
After reading Helens replies, I withdraw any apology afforded this worn out dengerate for she is a reprobate extraordinare.
Pretty poor representation of anarchy.
I choose "C" it sounds a lot better than 35% income tax. $5000/year in property tax. 7% sales tax. $300 car registration, $.40 per gallon gas tax. Local income taxes. Fines.
I didn't want to think a mind capable of assembling prose, no matter how labored and rhetorically stilted, with words of more than two syllables, could be so damaged.
Then I remembered the drugs.
You were right, Majiic12. I didn't realize that they were distributing bad acid at the loiters.
Pablo, you are nicer than me. When I was 19 I was a junior in college and in AFROTC. Nixon mined Haiphong Harbor on May 9, 1972. I was coming back to campus at Loyola University from an LA County wide meeting of Young Republican leaders at UCLA when I saw a group of long haired freaks take down the US flag. I waited until they left and went to the AFROTC office and got another flag. With two ROTCee buddies we raised the flag and stood guard. The freaks returned and demanded that we take it down and give it to them. I knew the leader, he lived in my dorm. I spoke softly to him so the others would not hear and promised him that no matter what happened to me I would kill him on the spot if any of them tried to take it down. You should have seen the look on his face. I was ready to die for my beliefs…he was not ready to die for his. By the way…his folks were very wealthy he did not appreciate one damn thing he had….my dad was a house painter….I started college with a scholarship and $100 in the bank.
The punks that go to the occupy gatherings need to be tear gassed and clubbed. If their commie friends rob, rape and beat them..so much the better. Let them learn that decisions have consequences…sometimes life changing consequences. They are soft and spoiled….it is time to grow up.
Actually, I thought it was entirely accurate.
That is, unless you are speaking of the sincere philosophical form of anarchy discussed by hard core libertarians, over Brie and Chardonnay. Entirely unworkable, in my opinion, but that's not the anarchy these hoodie and Guy Fawkes mask-wearing ch!mpanzees have in mind.
Leftists are the biggest misogynists.
So when Bill Clinton was practicing unwanted touching in the office that was bad?
We have learned two main points:
College costs way too much and produces practically none of the desired results. The big universities have oodles of money. They should pay off student loans by refunding the money students paid to attend plus the amount the students could have made by working those four years at McDonalds.
And, second:
You cannot expect to rub elbows with the unwashed herd without getting your elbows bloodied. No cops means no law enforcement. So keep the cops out of the trash heap, if you will. But don't expect to walk away unsullied.
It was a cold snowy winter last year in Madison. The creepy crawly protesters camped inside the State Capitol. Who will stop them if they pick a place to congregate in Manhattan?
I did the hippie thing back in 68. I did it all and really am not proud of all my misadventures. It didn't take long for me to see how delusional and self-centered the movement was. The military straightened me out quick and I owe everything to my country for that.
Peace.
Did you have a point to disprove? Was your point solely that a socialist system is superior to our current, semi-socialist, system in terms of human rights and crime? If one is willfully ignorant of the reality all around oneself, and one's view is based on nothing more than a belief, how would you go around disproving it to that person?
The numbers of people killed, abused, imprisoned, and displaced by socialist autocracies dwarfs anyone injured by a bank's interest rate. Which, would benefit you if you saved money. Money that you would possibly have more of to save if our own centralized government would stop taking so much for themselves.
In our own country, the most impoverished municipalities, who have the worst crime, the worst schools, and the worst abuse of the proletariat, are invariably the places that have have mostly monolithic control of government by "democrats" for the longest time. Detroit may be the greatest example, but it merely represents a common theme. Go anywhere that "democrats" have been in charge of for a significant amount of time and you will see higher crime, greater corruption, greater tax burdens (on everyone, not just the rich), and less liberty and freedom.
Whether you compare of a local, global, or historical scale, socialism and "democrats" invariably worsen each of the social ails that they claim they are going to fix, if you just give them unfettered control over your life. Even if you discard government from the picture and just compare a tea party rally or a boy scout gathering to an earth day event or IMF protest, the results of the mentalities are very much in evidence. Have you never seen the trash and clutter left behind by earth day folks? Can you compare the violence and thrashing of an area when a tea party group has left and are, vs. when a leftist protest group has been through town?
Since a belief operates without the benefit of real data or evidence, hence it's status as a belief, it cannot be dis-proven with mere data or evidence. These things are all around in abundance. Clearly, however, you willfully refuse to see what is right in front of you. Read a history book. Go to Detroit. Visit a foreign country. Hell, just visit Mexico. Do you really "believe" we have more political prisoners than the Chinese?
Oh sure, there are a few isolated instances, but overall we MUST watch out for those
EVIL, NASTY, TERRORIST…Tea Party people. I mean, they are really scary with their flags
and signs and singing…ooh, the horror! Arrest them and leave those innocent OWS folks alone!
Ten thumbs up.
A statement of perfection.
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