ClimateGate’s Next Phase: False Claims Act Lawsuit
by Bradley A. BenbrookThe United States government has shelled out huge sums of money to universities, think tanks, and businesses to study global warming climate change. The government is poised to dole out even more money for climate-change “solutions” like the cap-and-trade scheme. With the revelations about the lengths to which the leading group of global warming doomsayers went to “hide the decline” in temperatures in their seminal studies – studies that themselves spawned an avalanche of government spending – the world is seeing that the entire enterprise may be based on a fraud.

In a normal scandal where the government appears to have been ripped off, someone in the legislative or executive branch can usually be counted on to investigate the alleged fraud, if for no other reason than advancing their own political career. In the case of this scandal, however, the Obama administration and congressional Democrats have calculated that their political interests are best served by ignoring ClimateGate. This is sure to continue as new scandals emerge.
That leaves only the judicial branch as a place where climate change fraud can be unmasked in a government forum.
Individuals with inside knowledge about scientists, businesses, or any organization who knowingly used false statements to get (or keep) government money to perpetuate the “climate change” machine should consider a lawsuit under the federal False Claims Act.
The False Claims Act permits whistleblowers to sue in the name of the government as a “qui tam” plaintiff. Qui tam whistleblowers have used the FCA for decades to police (some would say hound) government contractors accused of obtaining government money by means of false statements. What’s the non-altruistic incentive for exposing fraud on the government? Successful whistleblowers can keep a share of the money that a federal judge or jury says should be paid back to the government, sometimes up to 30% of the recovery. Indeed, whistleblowers have recovered hundreds of millions of dollars in these suits over the last 20 years.
There is no reason this legal tool can’t be used against unscrupulous professors, scientists, and “green jobs” hucksters who knowingly submit false statements to get government grants that fund their research, fuel their green-tech start-ups, and underwrite their proselytizing about supposed man-made climate change.
Importantly, false statements necessary to justify a False Claims Act suit don’t have to involve the same type of data-manipulation exposed in the current ClimateGate scandal. A climate-fraud FCA case could be made out of any type of false statement made in order to get or keep government money. Government grants and contracts typically involve a significant amount of ongoing certification of compliance with bureaucratic restrictions – think of a government contractor’s progress reports or a hospital’s never-ending stream of paperwork assuring that all is in order – and false statements in this paperwork may open the door to a lawsuit.
What about retaliation against those who blow the whistle on their organization or their boss? The law provides extremely strong protections for those who bring a lawsuit. In fact, the FCA contains separate provisions permitting whistleblowers to recover for such retaliation.
Finally, a few important caveats for anyone considering a qui tam suit:
First, secrecy is important, at least at the beginning. You may lose the opportunity to litigate on behalf of the government if you or someone else publicizes your inside information. The FCA imposes strict guidelines on whistleblowers’ ability to maintain suits based on information that has been publicly disclosed.
Second, states and state universities (like Prof. Michael Mann’s employer Penn State) cannot be sued under the FCA for reasons having to do with federalism, but individuals working at state universities can be named as defendants if they caused false claims to be submitted.
Third, before filing suit, whistleblowers must share the information supporting their suit with the Justice Department. Although the government has the option of taking over the litigation to recover the money, it is unlikely, to say the least, that the current Justice Department would assist a whistleblower whose FCA case threatened to undermine the administration’s climate-change policies. If (or when) the government declines to intervene, the whistleblower plaintiff and their lawyers can vigorously prosecute the lawsuit, with all the powerful tools of pre-trial discovery.
A climate fraud False Claims Act suit would be no small undertaking. The rewards, however, could be quite substantial, and not just in monetary terms. Who would like to see a videotaped deposition of a climate-change fraudster defending his or her actions under oath? I sure would.






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I'd love to see Al Gore testify and admit that he doesn't know a friggin thing.
Just goes to show the wisdom of childhood fairy tales, which frequently teach true lesson; unlike adult fairy tales, which almost always lie.
for example, consider the following juxtapositions…
Chicken Little vs. AWG
Hansel and Gretel vs. Pelosi
The Emperor's New Clothes vs. B Hussein O
Scorpion and the Frog vs. the Democrat Party
We can't say we weren't warned.
Just a thought: If Prof Mann was black, no questions would be allowed to be "axed" as they would be considered racist. Just shut up and pay the Democrat hacks. [Glad to clarify]
I love it, use the system against itself, make left live by their own rules, Saul Alinsky would be proud.
George soros pays Joe romm at Climate Progress to say these blizards are not only minor, but they are caused by global warming. The same deciever can't explain why record blizzards in the early 1900's aren't from the same causes.
This cold week is a shame because the warmists didn't predict it. They claim to have strong and accurate models and the predictions they make seem to be way off. 10 years ago they promised the end of winter snows. They lied.
I LOVE IT! I would pay big money to see this lawsuit happen.
Obama lies, our economy dies!!
As long as Eric Holder is the 'man in charge' there will be NO lawsuits…things will change, and the junk scientist will have their day in court…By the way Mr. Gore, alarmist, I live in Florida and the wink chill outside is 16 degrees!..care to debate???
Hmmm what a brillant idea! Make the government & these so called special interest groups accountable for their actions! Wait that would interfere with the "Saul Alinsky" plan in which Obama taught… make people accountable for their actions… nope that's not what this governments wants. It's the "not" my fault, just give me, give me, give me… plan which is already in effect. Question is how do "we" stop it?
There needs to be some legal eagles ready to take on the challenge,
As one poster said, use the rules aganst themselves, they did it to us/
Insulated Bermuda shorts for everyone……just to cover the bases.
Could this be used against ACORN?
Fire At Will
Maybe he is black and painted himself white to reflect heat!?
Bernie Madoff is rotting in jail for a far smaller fraud. We must hold this "global warming fraud" to account. Go for it.
Maybe they will clasify AGW as a religion as they did in the UK. Would this grant them protection?
Attorney General = Obamafia Consigliere
Rent-seeking corporate officers & directors should also be targeted. They are betting their shareholders' money on a false premise that is likely to burden consumers with excess costs for decades to come.
Bursting a bubble here. If this had real legs we should also be able to bring legitimate suit against the abortion industry and movement? It was predicated on false information about the statistics of back-alley abortions.
Now, as for Climate Change. It is a religious movement by now. And I don't say this with tongue in cheek. It is for real, and it is really leeched into the mainstream. This is bigger than New Age, because it gives a purpose which is outside of oneself. It also has as adherents many intellectuals and scientists who very much affect the "truth" for many people.
Biblically speaking: The word "rellgion" simply means A Way of Life, w/God or wo/ God. In the latter times people will worship the Creation instead of The Creator and do what is "right" acdg to their own minds….A Complete denial of the teachings in The Word of God. I can't answer your question from a legal point of view but it appears that it could happen. Witchcraft, whether good or bad types are recognized as religious insitutions. Pray them out with Psalms Ch 91 and/or Ps: Ch 109. The theory of evolution is a type of religion, as it requires much faith, w/o evidence to consider our Origins.
Global warming is not so bad. Now when we retire we won't have to move to Florida.
which would be the only truthful thing to come out of his mouth in years…
May I suggest you learn to spell… R.e.l.i.g.i.o.n… and the theory of evolution is not a type of religion… it's science.
Evolution is just a theory ~ kind of like Gravity!
Please I will respect your freedom for religion as long as you stop cramming your b.s. down my throat! Do you actually believe that Jesus can see you… you as a single person??? Does he really have that much time on his hands that he can watch what actions or what blogs your writing???
My pleasure, sometimes we need a laugh or two to keep us in perspective.
I’ve been saying for a while now that Gore and his ilk should be doing the perp walk.Is there a fund to get the ball rolling?
Al Gore "just a few kilometers down from the earth's surface it's several million degrees" should be in prison for the financial damage he has done with his wild exaggerations posed as fact.
What an idiot.
Tosser, I don't see anyone "cramming your b.s. down my throat!" BTW, there are questions that need to be addressed in evolution.
As per Jesus, well, that is what those of us that belive in Jesus belive. Sorry it causes you pain that we do.
@ Luisced… no pain here. I'm a Militant Agnostic… I DON'T KNOW & YOU DON'T EITHER!!!!
Believe away. Just keep Religion out of "our" government!
Tosser, same at you, as I view militant agnostic as a religion.
Every time Al Gore opens his mouth, it's an admission that he doesn't know a friggin thing….
The real tragedy is that the average American who's had to endure the end result of all the bad laws and stupid regulations based on this hoax have no legal standing. If that weren't the case, I'd be the first one in line to file a suit.
I always thought RICO was the way to go: treble damages!
And if you don't think the CRU crew is a racket, you're part of the problem!
This should be turned over to judicialwatch.org and average citizens should fund this litigation with 5.00 donations. They would get more money than they could use!
I can't believe what a schmuk Gore is. What a thief!! Somehow, I'm pretty sure that shortly it will be announced that it was all Bush's fault. He get's blamed for everything else.
Start a Fund.
Finding an attorney will NOT be easy. I have worked with Qui Tam cases. MANY law firms do not want to affend the powers that be.
Remember that trial lawyers are the dems best friends.
Knowing how the DOJ currently operates, wouldn't point #3 put point #1 at risk?
Good point! Regardless, Democrat "global warming" communists are dangerous and need to be …………………………….JCH
This is an absolutely brilliant idea! I pray some lawyer and knowledgeable plaintiff will have the guts to go through with it. Sadly, as we have witnessed with the proceedings concerning the fake Obama birth certificate, it may be very hard to even find an honest judge to even allow the action in a court of law.
You people are really quite amazing. You're like the smoker who refuses to quit because he knows somebody who knows somebody who's 85 years old and still smokes and hasn't died yet. And besides, it's not like smoking will kill you tomorrow.
Global climate change is slightly more than the weather outside your front door today. Pull your head out of the sand.
I'm not sure if it's going to be more amusing or infuriating to hear your justifications and excuses 10, 20, 30, 50 years down the road. I'm sure you'll be able to find way to politicize and shift the blame. Or maybe it's just that you don't give a crap because you don't plan on being around that long.
Abortion is not trying to regulate and tax us in the same way as ClimateFake. So Abortion is different, IMO and, for some strange reason, it is seen as a "rights" issue and not–what it actually is–a medical issue.
LOL, sure make the gov accountable, thats gonna happen—-not! Not so long as we have the admin we have any way. Hoping there will come a day when the potus, and all his fairy men will stand trial. Perfect fit for the rico statute. All are criminals and traitors.
AMAZED…did you just make a point (or try to), or did you just write 3 paragraphs without making one bit of sense?
Does "you people" refer to the hoaxers or the deniers? Based on your "style", I think I know, but just making sure.
Oh really? Enlighten us. What is Global Climate Change then?
As a scientist I wish I had some inside information, but I don't. Mann and others are being investigated and it is likely that the methods of their calculations will come to light as they are critically examined. Normally, I would put my faith in the academic committees to objectively conduct the examinations of those alledged to have committed scietific fraud. But, we are dealing with "Global Warming," which is a religion that has a lot of High Priests. But, it is nice that two separate academic committees are conducting these examinations and they are an ocean apart. Hopefully, they are both mindful that the results of their investigations need to be pretty close. But, this is entirely different from a whistleblower. Perhaps someone is in the "know" and will step forward and blow the whistle.
All we need to do, is startle a gaggle of lawyers and get them stampeding in that direction, and there will be a juggernaut-avalanche of filings that bury this crap for decades. One qui tam plaintiff could keep several firms working for quite a few years. mmm mmm mmmmm
Once you have a judgment in federal court against (say) NASA/GISS for failure to respond to legitimate requests under the Freedom of Information acts their research grants can be frozen pending compliance. Not until their cash flow is affected will they cough up the data sets.
Obama should have a look out the window at the people he serves. He got in by talking a good game (now shown to be mostly lies), but virtually every policy he pushes goes against the American people, and so, they will push back. So much time and money wasted on a healthcare bill that, if passed, will be challenged by the states, (and others) ,and locked in court for years to come. Same thing on this Global Warming/cap & trade scam. Wake up Mr. president. We need real leadership to bring America back. Do you really want to go down in history as the President that destroyed America. Stop listening to your communist cohorts and pay attention to the people of this country.
Given the knowing participation in this fraud of academia,the media and the Democratic Party what is really needed is a RICO prosecution
We should be grateful for global warming; without how cold would it be?
Gravity is a Law (one of Newton's Laws) not a Theory unlike, say, Evolution which is, in fact, still a Theory. Carry on…
Need to be what?
Maybe if we all get together and chip in to cover attorneys' fees and costs we could get the ball rolling. What do you say?
I'm wondering what "wink chill" is all about.
Why don't you make a citizen's arrest?
Newton's theory of gravitation
The problem with a False Claims Act suit is that the government gets most of the recovery. And we don't like the government. At all.
Opposed to, Newton's law of universal gravitation. Read a book!
You said Gravity–which is a law! Read a Book!
We started a website dedicated to this, since whistleblower lawsuits are popping up more and more: http://www.quitamteam.com
The rules within a theory are called "laws" and the inverse square law of the Newtonian theory of gravitation does describe gravity extremely well.
Go back to you 10th grade website…. and leave matters you have no understanding alone.
Meteorologists can't get an accurate forecast beyond 3 days, yet we are to believe that a bunch of models, based on cherry-picked data, can predict with accuracy what the climate will be 10, 50, even 100 years from now? Yet the predictions that were supposed to happen by now, didn't. Then the gross misconduct by the leading players in this AGW hoax as demostrated by their emails, yet we are still told to believe what they say. The hubris of stating that the science is "settled" in regards to one of the most complex systems we humans have ever studied is astounding. No, not going to engage in nation destroying activities just because a bunch of egotistical jackasses say that they are absolutely right and that the debate is over even when their predictions are consistently wrong. Sorry, unlike the "belieffers", just not going to jump off the cliff because of that.
Yeah, yeah I have heard that one a million times. You said gravity, bub. Gravity is a Law. Why can't you just admit you were wrong?
LOL! Yeah, I didn't catch that in time…maybe I can change it now.:)
Evolution is just a theory ~ kind of like Gravity!
Let me spell it out for you… e.v.o.l.u.t.i.o.n is just a theory ~ kind of like g.r.a.v.i.t.y.
I know exactly what I said you just can't read what people write…
The rules within a theory are called "laws"… and unlike you, I passed the 10th grade.
FYI: I'm not a "bub", what redneck part of the world are you from?
Do I get an aluminum foiled hat when I join this club or should I have it first?
Mike's Nature Trick- an exposé.
Oh, and here's a Global Warming gif- my first animation. (I know- it's simple but you gotta learn somehow, right?)
I bet you feel much better! I totally 100% agree with you! You rock!!!!
"The laws of science are various established scientific laws, or physical laws as they are sometimes called, that are considered universal and invariable facts of the physical world. Laws of science may, however, be disproved if new facts or evidence contradicts them. A "law" differs from hypotheses, theories, postulates, principles, etc., in that a law is an analytic statement, usually with an empirically determined constant. A theory may contain a set of laws, or a theory may be implied from an empirically determined law."
"Newton's law of universal gravitation states that every massive particle in the universe attracts every other massive particle with a force which is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them."
F = G(M1XM2/RXR)
"Newton's law has since been superseded by Einstein's theory of general relativity, but it continues to be used as an excellent approximation of the effects of gravity. Relativity is only required when there is a need for extreme precision, or when dealing with gravitation for extremely massive and dense objects."
Dude, seriously you do not understand science or the scientific method do you. Brother, laws are proven. Laws in science are facts. Theories are not facts. No matter how many times you write it you are wrong. Welcome to the land of Fascistic Propaganda style of Cloward and Piven.
The most recent issue of Chemical & Engineering News contains an excellent and balanced article about the science behind "global warming".
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/87/8751cover.h...
While the science does argue for an increase in temperatures recently, there is debate concerning the causes of this warming. I recommend that all, advocates and skeptics, read this article for a clearer understanding of the scientific issues.
Many advocates of political policies to combat global warming, such as former Vice President Gore, clearly don't understand the scientific issues and instead are pursing political change for personal profit or to gain control of other people.
They know that the primitive people charted the skies on the last onset of an ice age. That is what all of that end times, Mayan calendar, ect. stuff is about.
The 2012 deadline in the astronomical calendar is just that, a calendar using constellations to mark the zodiacal months of warm spells and ice ages.
Global warming is not what is about to occur. The reset of the Great Year calendar of astronomers starts with winter just like the yearly calendar.
The warm age is ending and the ice age is approaching.
Kevin do a little research. Weather forecasts are not the same as climate predictions.
I can tell you with quite a bit of certainty that many people will die this year in car accidents, I cannot tell you if you will die in one.
First the question, then the research, then the hypothesis/theory, test it which will then be proven as law or not.
Theories aren't proven. Laws are proven. Theories have laws. Not the other way around, Dude. And as a side note as a shout out to my fellow brothers from the south which have been intellectually attacked by this individual I give you these individuals from the south which make up roughly 40% of all of our US Presidents:
George Washington of Virginia (term 1789 – 1797).
Thomas Jefferson of Virginia (term 1801 – 1809).
James Madison of Virginia (term 1809 – 1817).
James Monroe of Virginia (term 1817 – 1825).
Andrew Jackson of Tennessee (term (1829 – 1837).
William Henry Harrison of Virginia (term 1841).
John Tyler of Virginia (term 1841 – 1845).
James Knox Polk of Tennessee (term (1845 – 1849).
Zachary Taylor of Virginia (term 1849 – 1850).
Andrew Johnson of North Carolina (term 1865 – 1869).
Woodrow Wilson of Virginia (term 1913 – 1921).
Dwight D. Eisenhower of Texas (term 1953 – 1961).
Lyndon Baines Johnson of Texas (term 1963 – 1969).
Jimmy Carter of Georgia (term 1977 – 1981).
George H. W. Bush of Texas (term 1989 – 1993).
Bill Clinton of Arkansas (term 1993 – 2001).
George W. Bush of Texas (term 2001 – 2009).
Read it slowly if you want, or fast, but definitely one of the two. Try not to be so arrogant Dude. Peace.
This is a serious discussion among informed, intelligent participants. Aluminum foil hats are strictly optional.
Those are some nutty claims. There's no fraud here. People are just cherry-picking phrases from the emails and taking them out of context: http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_...
Pul-lease. Don't you know that global warming is a total hoax concocted by socialists, fascists, one-worlders, American-haters, anti-free marketeers, and assorted other despicable types, all taking orders from Al Gore, intended to undermine our economy and way of life and turn us into impoverished, unemployed wards of the state who will perpetually vote for candidates with direct links to ACORN and the SEIU? Where have you been?
I've lived in dallas/ft. worth since 1969 and have never seen a winter like this one, and it's still early. White Christmas is unheard of around here, until now…global warming, how I hate it.
If Holder doesn't hang them we will.
LIARS! CHEATERS! DECEIVERS! Mother nature is proving that gore, and the rest of the climate change liars need to be prosecuted. Oh, and that 100 billion hillary pledged? That's our money big-arse, and we don't want you giving it away! Got that yet, libRETARDS?
Really? You view being without Religion a "Religion"… interesting. Okay what can a person say to such brillant insight? See the issue here is that I respect your right to believe whatever you want as long as you "not" force your views down anyone's throat…. BELIEVE AWAY is my motto, just leave me out of your fairy tale way of thinking. I CHOOSE science. Whether you like it or not it's my choice.
We are so off course the topic wasn't about what we are talking about, it's about "Our" govenment not being transparent with the Global warming issue… oh wait do you actually believe that Global warming is man made????
I think Al Gore should be sued first, based on the 9 lies found in his prize-winning movie, documented in a UK court. If successful, this will bring it all to a halt and put him on a badly needed diet. Politicized science is only a little less acceptable than politicized religion. Any scientist (Phil Jones) who published his research in a document for policymakers and then destroys his raw data should be prosecuted, just like a police officer who detroys his investigative notes prior to trial.
As with most of the anti-AGW arguments – a whole lot of hot air . . . zero substance. There is no way anyone could bring a credible lawsuit based on a patchwork of emails and if you think there is some magical individual who is going to step forward and manage to discredit the entire Climate discipline through a lawsuit then you have already lost this debate.
I know many people who are skeptical of current AGW theory, but I know many more people who find delusions of a grand socialist/liberal/nazi/green conspiracy to steal our tax dollars far more ludicrous. The Pro-AGW side has websites like Tamino.Wordpress and Realclimate conducting in-depth debate on AGW encompassing Math, Physics, Statistics, etc. The anti-AGW crowd has nothing equivalent. If you are actually serious about taking on the scientific concensus, you might want to consider bringing some actual science to the table. Ideological convction is not enough.
I would love to see someone sue GE for their part in this, they have very deep pockets and they know what they are promoting is complete fraud.
Come on I know there is a GE employee out there that would like a share of a few billion dollars!
Let us stop arguing with the Feminine Voiced Tubba Gump Worshiping Climate Myth Believers. Let us play their game. Those on the left argue that there must be separation of church and state. Don't argue with them and tell them that "separation of church and state" was never written in the Constitution, only in the writings of Thomas Jefferson's letters later to be misused by our Supreme Court, but I digress. Let us agree with them that there must be separation of church and state. You win Tubba Gump Lefty Liberal Worshipers. And as our country demands equal treatment under the law for all, no public money can go to any religious institution, but you do get tax breaks. Nature worship is a religion. All of these are examples of recognized Nature Worshiping Religions in the history of man as nature worship: Animism, Sun Worship, Moon worship, Star worship, Fire worship, Tree worship, Animal worship, Sacred mountains, Sacred groves, Sacred herbs, Sacred tree, Holy well, Megalith, Standing stone, Stone circle, Thunder god, Totem, Sky deity, Water deity, Naturalistic pantheism, Naturalistic spirituality, Gaia philosophy, Folk religion, Pantheism, Shamanism, Earth religion, Neopaganism, Goddess worship, Natural religion, mana and now The Climate is Changing, Getting Warmer, Hotter, the Earth's Core is Several Million Degrees (But really 1,700, but who is counting), Man is Causing the Ice Caps to Melt and The Water will Rise (Even Though Ice Caps did not exist during the Jurassic Period and neither did man), the World is Going to End, Save the Planet and the Drowning Polar Bears Church. Because all of these are Nature Worshiping Religions, then by rules of law set forth by Supreme Court precedent in our country no money can go to any environmental/climate myth change corporations and objectives because they are now religious churches and their objectives are now their beliefs to be prosthelytized. Funding the science would be equivalent to funding the religion. You can’t separate the two. The United States would then be violating Constitutional Law (I know that this is really not an issue for Bug Eyed Botox Pelosi and Harry Hamster Brain Reid and our US Congress) as they are funding, backing and supporting a religion and its beliefs.
Obama cannot admit this is a scam. He is one of the founders of the Chicago Climate Exchange where Cap and Trade will be implemented. He stands to lose millions if this deal does not go through.
By the way…. Al Gore is a 10% owner of that exchange.
Dude without theory's there are no laws…
Evolution is just a theory ~ kind of like Gravity!
Read it really slow… you might get it….
I'd put my case on the hole in the ozone layer Your funding would come from the refrigerant makers and repairers who lost out to a chemical theory that does not stand close scientific scrutiny.
I'm there!
"Hide the decline"?
If you read the full email, Jones is talking about adding the "real temps" (i.e. actual, measured air temperature!) to the proxy reconstruction, which only goes back a couple of centuries. How can adding *real temperatures* be an attempt to cover anything up?
The tree ring proxy data calibrates well to measured air temperatures going back 200 years. You can find these records for yourselves, freely available on-line. Just punch "instrumental temperature record" into Google. Not just the CRU, but number of scientific institutions hold them…and all the globally-averaged records show dramatic recent warming.
Only after 1960 do tree ring proxy metrics diverge from this record, and it is this (innaccurate) recent data that Jones was talking about replacing.
Again, just Google "Mike's Nature Trick". There's nothing hidden, nefarious or conspiratorial.
So good luck with those law suits!
Regards,
P.
Good point…lol Btw, does anyone know where Al is right now?
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Let us stop arguing with the Feminine Voiced Tubba Gump Worshiping Climate Myth Believers. Let us play their game. Those on the left argue that there must be separation of church and state. Don't argue with them and tell them that "separation of church and state" was never written in the Constitution, only in the writings of Thomas Jefferson's letters later to be misused by our Supreme Court, but I digress. Let us agree with them that there must be separation of church and state. You win Tubba Gump Lefty Liberal Worshipers. And as our country demands equal treatment under the law for all, no public money can go to any religious institution, but you do get tax breaks. Nature worship is a religion. All of these are examples of recognized Nature Worshiping Religions in the history of man as nature worship: Animism, Sun Worship, Moon worship, Star worship, Fire worship, Tree worship, Animal worship, Sacred mountains, Sacred groves, Sacred herbs, Sacred tree, Holy well, Megalith, Standing stone, Stone circle, Thunder god, Totem, Sky deity, Water deity, Naturalistic pantheism, Naturalistic spirituality, Gaia philosophy, Folk religion, Pantheism, Shamanism, Earth religion, Neopaganism, Goddess worship, Natural religion, mana and now The Climate is Changing, Getting Warmer, Hotter, the Earth's Core is Several Million Degrees (But really 1,700, but who is counting), Man is Causing the Ice Caps to Melt and The Water will Rise (Even Though Ice Caps did not exist during the Jurassic Period and neither did man), the World is Going to End, Save the Planet and the Drowning Polar Bears Church. Because all of these are Nature Worshiping Religions, then by rules of law set forth by Supreme Court precedent in our country no money can go to any environmental/climate myth change corporations and objectives because they are now religious churches and their objectives are now their beliefs to be prosthelytized. Funding the science would be equivalent to funding the religion. You can’t separate the two. The United States would then be violating Constitutional Law (I know that this is really not an issue for Bug Eyed Botox Pelosi and Harry Hamster Brain Reid and our US Congress) as they are funding, backing and supporting a religion and its beliefs.
Peace
We have bigger issues at hand.
Facts vs Reverend of the Church of Climate Change Scientists:
Oldest rocks discovered are 4,000,000,000 years old.
Earth 4,00,000,000 years old.
Data used by scientists is 150 years old.
150 divided by 4,000,000,000 = 0.0000000375 of the Earth's Life Span.
Church of Climate Change Scientists Data from research is much to narrow a time frame in regards to the Earth's Life to qualify under the Scientific Method.
During the Jurassic Period 200,000,000 years ago on Earth no ice caps existed.
Ice Caps formed on Earth after hominins came into existence.
Major Global Warming period during the Middle Ages on Earth.
Case Closed
Keep Preaching your Lies Cloward and Piven/Alinskey Loving Church of Climate Myths Reverend Manapatra
Right on Turk, except the Hobbs Act applies more than RICO. I wrote on this a while back, click my name.
Wrong wrong wrong…
Zero substance of the widespread fraud, yeah right. There was ample evidence, climategate just verified a lot of it.
As far as debate, realclimate is not a place to debate. They delete anything that doesn't agree with them. They are lady parts that refuse to debate because they can't hold up their arguments. They are the antithesis of using math, physics, and science.
Unlike the beeches over at falseclimate, wattsupwiththat.com encourages warmistas to come and be destroyed through truth and science. Unlike fraudclimate, they don't censor unless you get rude or profane.
Carbon is the stuff of life. He (Obama) who controls carbon, especially CO2, controls the world. Think of the consequences if you do nothing! For one, the UK is becoming the poster child for George Orwell’s “1984” and the US government’s sponsorship of this worldwide Global Warming propaganda campaign puts it in a class with the failed Soviet Union’s relentless violation of the basic human right to truthful government generated information. Given ClimateGate’s burgeoning revelations of outrageous government misconduct and massive covert misinformation, what are the chances that this Administration’s National Health Care sales campaign is anywhere near the truth?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bdneX1djD0
Are you angry about this obvious RICO Act fraud and the national media's complicity in the cover-up, misinformation, reframing and misdirection of the issue and the related “carbon derivatives” market Obama’s Administration is spinning up? Take responsibility and take action. STOP all donations to the political party(s) responsible for this fraud. STOP donations to all environmental groups which funded this Global Warming propaganda campaign with our money, especially The Environmental Defense Fund. They have violated the public trust. KEEP donations local, close to home. MAKE donations to Oklahoma’s Senator Inhofe, the only politician to stand firmly against this obvious government/media coordinated information operation (propaganda) targeted at its own people. People that government leaders and employees are sworn to protect. WRITE your state and federal representatives demanding wall to wall investigations of government sponsored propaganda campaigns and demand indictments of those responsible. WRITE your state and federal Attorneys General demanding Al Gore and others conducting Global Warming/Climate Change racketeering and mail fraud operations be brought to justice, indicted, tried, convicted and jailed.
" … the entire enterprise MAY be based on fraud"? Substitute the word "IS" for "may" and you have the truth of it.
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