Holder Hearings Part Two: Rep. Issa Confirms Holder Is under Oath, Yet Holder Changes His Story Again
by AWR HawkinsWhen it came time for Attorney General Eric Holder to make his opening comments, Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) requested that the A.G. be sworn under oath. Issa had already noted that Congress had been lied to and that in previous hearings, Holder & Co. displayed the “unheard of” habit of redacting their letters and testimony to the Congress. Congressman Lamar Smith (R-TX) said that it wasn’t necessary for Holder to be sworn under oath because it was understood that he was already under oath by virtue of the purpose for which he was appearing. Issa then asked Smith if he was sure that Holder was bound as being under oath, and Smith verified that he was.
So it was settled, and Issa had made his point – Holder should choose his words carefully.
Cameras then turned to Holder who said he was happy to describe the “decisive action” his department has taken “to ensure the flawed tactics actions used in operations Fast and Furious and in earlier operations under prior administration are never repeated.” (Notice the jab at Bush.) He then took time to brag on how the 117,000 employees of the DOJ throughout world have basically saved American from apocalypse. (He did this by describing what he called the DOJ’s historic progress in protecting the American people “from global terrorism and violent crime, financial fraud, human trafficking, and more.”)
He finally turned his attention to the Southwest border, i.e., the one the DOJ/ATF allowed 2,500 weapons to walk across. Here, DOJ’s “battle against gun violence” took center stage:
In recent years, the department has devoted specific resources to this fight and specifically, to addressing the unacceptable rate of illegal firearms trafficking from the United States to Mexico. Unfortunately, in the pursuit of that laudable goal, unacceptable tactics were adopted as part of Operation Fast and Furious. As I have repeatedly stated, allowing guns to walk, whether in this administration or the prior one, is wholly unacceptable. The use of this misguided tactic is inexcusable. It must never happen again. Soon after learning about the allegations raised by agents involved in Fast and Furious I took action designed to ensure accountability. In February I asked the department’s acting Inspector General to investigate the matter. And in early March I ordered that a directive be sent to law enforcement agents and prosecutors prohibiting such tactics.
I have a question: How did Holder address the “allegations” associated with gun walking in Fast and Furious in February if he didn’t know about Fast and Furious until mid-April? Remember, when he first gave testimony to Congress on May 3, he told Issa he had only known about Fast and Furious for a few weeks:
On May 3rd Issa asked: “When did you first know about the program…called ‘Fast and Furious?”
Holder responded: “I’m not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks”
This exchange notwithstanding, Holder is now telling Congress about the actions he took in light of allegations about Fast and Furious in February and March. In fact, he specifically said he issued a directive in March against “such tactics” (i.e., gun walking) after the allegations of such tactics were made by ATF agents.
No wonder Issa is mad and tired of being lied to. The American people should be outraged as well.
Somebody in Issa’s office needs to review Holder’s opening comments and call him out for this.







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holder is guilty of perjury, impeach and jail him.
Holder Lied………UNDER OATH???
Say it isn't so!!/sarc off
So, tell me again…….
WHY DOES HE STILL HAVE HIS JOB????????
WHY IS HE NOT FACING PROSECUTORS????????
Liar! Liar! Pants on Fire!
When Holder was asked if it was illegal for a government to smuggle guns into another country without that countries knowledge Holder said yes it is,then the question was asked if Mexico knew about Fast and Furious,about the guns walking into the country illegally,Holder said no,the Mexican government did not know illegal guns were walking into Mexico.
It is still illegal to LIE to Congress….whether under oath or not. The difference is in the penalty.
Did anyone think to ask if there are any other gun walking operations in existence or operation today? Follow up would be is your answer definitive?
Obama will never go to jail…. Obama would pardon him before charges could be brought.
What a bull crap process displayed here in Congress. Just the way it's unfolding illustrates that they are above the law. If anyone of us were running a gun walking operation…we would be screwed and glued to the wall of a prison at best months ago. DESPICABLE!
What is the penalty? In your opinion.
You might as well just try and win an election. This harassment of the president will not get you where you want to go.
In the foggy world of a bureaucratic manager I can understand and forgive this type of inconsistency….
to me… it is a non-issue….
However, purposely selling functioning guns to criminals is somewhere south of stupid. Whether he knew about it or not he was at the helm when it happened….. sorry charlie, you should have been canned a long time ago.
Arming the crminal element????
Holder is a malicious, racist, corrupt, commie parasite sucking the liberty out of our way of life. He should be banished to cuba or syria; his choice.
It seems that a pathology is at work here. Is Mr. Holder a pathological liar??
Or maybe he is suffering from CRS syndrome.
Damned, why is it so difficult for him to tell the truth??
Don't believe everything you read on the bigs.
I don't think Holder knows the difference between telling the truth and lying. I really don't.
"Now Issa is mad" and running for reelection. Strikes me as a strange coincidence that he couldn't get fired up enough to make much news until the 2012 campaign got underway.
He's a "showman", NOTHING will ever come of any of his "investigations" other than him getting some free publicity. Sorry friends, I know some of you are fans, but I call'um like I see 'um.
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I meant Holder would never go to jail.
The truth is counterintuitive to leftists.
Janet Reno kills 76 Americans in Waco under Clinton, Erick Holder is responsible for the deaths of Brian Terry and who knows how many Mexicans under Obama. The only AG who has been booted out of office in recent history is Alberto Gonzalez, for "allegedly" playing politics under G W Bush. Where's the "justice"??
"The use of this misguided tactic is inexcusable"…..no Mr Azzholder, what's inexcusable is you continuely trying to absolve yourself of blame by refering to the 'prior administration'…. YOU and YOUR minions set this up, YOU sent guns into the hands of Mexican drug gangs. I wish somebody was assigned to stand there beside this POS, and every time he tries to answer a question by refering to the prior administration, they bitch slap him…see if that helps his memory.
I blame the hippies…
Nothing will happen to Holder. He's protected by Obama.
Issa is not motivated by oversight. He promised to get the president long before anyone ever heard of fast and furious. So Obama will do what all presidents do. He will slow walk the congress until they run out of gas or it becomes a distraction, and then he will fire Holder. Then it all goes away and we get to start over with some other trumped up “scandal”.
The penalty is no pudding cup in your lunch bag.
….Because some of the comments are from Lying Leftist Soros-trolls and apologists for Obumbler….
What a joke this hearing is! Talking about too many things that flatter the AG. Holder still refused to APOLOGIZE to Brian Terry's family….some lame crap about understanding their pain. Indeed! What a dispicable human being!
What is it with Democrats and lying under oath?
If they spend all their time lying to us, what would we expect.
OK, How about CBS NEWS???
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57338546-10...
I see that you did not dispute anything that has been said. What exactly should I not believe?? Show me the "truth".
Did he LIE?? UNDER OATH?? DOES HE STILL HAVE HIS JOB??? WHY is he not being prosecuted???
Try again with another asinine comment!!!
The comments are just reader's opinions. The lies are wrapped up in the articles.
North Korea??
…Troll comments are packaged talking points from the usual Commie sources…..
And here comes the expected cover that will knock this story out of the news for the next week…
A shooting at a campus.
Somebody had to school you bags.
Holder explains that the guns will keep turning up at crime scenes for years ( A TRUTH) and everything else is a lie. But he'll say he told-the-truth.
This is all Clinton-styled what the definition of "is" is.
Holder is a liar and committing more crimes! Time to get Obama under oath about this gun thing–and hillary, too.
Hickory dickory dock go %%%% yourself 99.
…..Fortunately, we are not as weak-minded and gullible as you, Soros slave-puppy…..
I looked it up five years per offense which jumps to eight years if it concerns terrorism. Put his punk arse in a cell! Why wait?!
I've been watching this all day, and most of the time Holder filibusters through each Republican's time. He looks pretty nervous, he is obviously lying, and all the Democrats want to talk about is having more gun control.
Issa asked if he would come again next month or did he need a subpoena, treated him like the hostile witness he is, yet Holder still stonewalled.
The most annoying person – Sheila Jackson Lee
The most boring drone – Conyers
Most upset that guns are even allowed to be sold – Maxine Waters
It's coming back on, I will keep watching.
Like they say in the lab, TNTC.
So it doesn't bother you that the DOJ is complict in the murder of a law enforcement officer?
Go worship your Great God, Obama!
More of that old, "Mistakes were made," lawyer talk.
Typical Washington blather.
Let's hope the GOP is gathering the footage. It'll make great campaign evidence a year from now.
"Hope and Change turned out to be Business as Usual," should be the tag line.
I think if Barry did that before the election, it would tank it. He'll wait till after the election, when he's a lame duck.
No, it should be our choice. LIFE IN LEAVENWORTH!
The biggest bombshell in this hearing so far is the fact that Holder admitted openly that Mexican government officials were telling the truth when they said this all took place absent their knowledge and participation. That means that international law, by that I mean by treaty, was in FACT broken. In this case, it means an act of WAR was committed because it was walking GUNS that were specifically meant to arm known criminal (in both countries) gangs (terrorist entities).
There is no way out, not for Holder, not for Hillary, not for Janet or Robert and absolutely no way out for Barry.
Look folks, the "I didn't know" excuse cannot be allowed to stand. During the Bush Presidency, after 9-11, we got the "nobody knew" excuse and we were told, by Democrats ESPECIALLY, that we just HAD to reorganize and expand government in order to stop the stove piping of information, to present someone who is accountable directly for "intelligence failures".
Barry and his cronies must be admitting that the entire Department of Homeland Security reorganization was a total and complete FAILURE in order for their "nobody knew" excuse to hold and water whatsoever.
Yeah, uh huh.
Another tidbit I caught so far. We are expected to believe that Holder ordered an IG investigation into this after he "learned" about it. Now, how can there be an investigation of this broad scope and meaningful substance be done without written direction? Holder said he did not write anything down in ordering the IG investigation. How, then, did the IG even know what to "investigate"?
Issa has been made to look like a fool today, again, and the Speaker of the House is STILL silent. While Issa may never tire of being made a fool, while the Republican Party "bosses" may never tire of being made a fool, I will say that as an American, I sure am tired of the dog and pony show foolishness this hearing, like the others, has turned into.
Ridiculous.
We The People are owed better than this from our government, from the operators of our Constitutional Republic. Our forefathers earned better and soldiers risk and give their lives daily for better.
The "Impeachment" word finally came out today, and it is about time. Did ya notice that Corzine is sucking all the oxygen out of the media coverage? Did ya notice that Barry came out in a presser while the Holder was being lightly questioned about GunWalker? Gee, what a coincidence.
You want me to clock myself? Now that's weird, even for a bagger.
…..A commie lab rat like you should know that stands for Tell No Truth, Comrade….
I have witnessed more stumping for more gun control coming out of this committee hearing than I have tagging Holder, and others, over LYING.
Issa is being made to look like a fool. Again. And for slow playing it for electioneering purposes (which I have been snapping about all along) He deserves it.
This hearing, for the most part, has been just as much of a joke as the others. Pathetic.
You don't give one wit about that victim. This is all about the president.You are fooling no one.
In the lab, huh? Get back in your cage, Rhesus.
HANG EM HIGH
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Oh Helen.
You just cease to amaze me.
Dear, you really don't mind me calling you Helen do you? Just between the two of us? http://uglydemocrats.com/democrats/United-States/...
LIke you say in the kennel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mXIJo8plU&fe...
Helen really. I am just shocked.
Your first response was 'life isn't perfect' and you put them down for their natural concerns?
If the president showed a lack of caring enough to provide arms that murdered a border partrol agent why shouldn't we be going after him.
You're just a disappointment Helen. You really don't mind me calling you that do you? http://uglydemocrats.com/democrats/United-States/...
I just want to know why the F the DOJ has 117,000 employees. Ridiculous.
Without a doubt, Holder needs the rule of law that he is supposed to uphold to render justice unto him and his boss. Both of these lying and arrogant pieces of crap belong under the jail (six feet would be deep enough).
He is a Democrat…'nuff said…..lefties are simply amoral. Lying, cheating, racism, religious bigotry (Muslims excluded)..not to mention the fact that they haven't seen a tax thievery scam they didn't like. Anything that would generally disgust most Americans is a badge of honor for a lot of lefties (ie..craping on cop cars).
Of course it is. It's about Obammy and all of his evil minions. We just have to get them one at a time.
Not a science guy, are we?
Helen, you strike again.
More nonsense and cheap insults. I think you deserve the yapping dog award.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR2LZ0YLLMU&fe...
Are you sure you don't mind me calling you Helen dear? http://uglydemocrats.com/democrats/United-States/...
Not that kind of lab, but good try.
Because liberal judges have turned our justice system into a political trap like they had in the soviet union.
Thought police having the courts behind them makes for a lot of injustice, this is an example of that. And of course…. tyranny.
Then you better get busy because were are three years into his first term getting ready for a second. He will be back in Chicago writing his memoirs and you will still be trying to figure out how he managed to get elected twice.
….Political science, puppy…..
I'm just getting started my friend.
…..A cave is not a lab, no matter what Soros told you slaves…..
Read US Code TITLE 18: PART I ; CHAPTER 44 § 922 Unlawful Acts…..
…. and then ask your congressman/woman why Holder and all involved, including the firearm dealer(s) who willingly engaged in an illegal activity that as licensed dealer would and should know was illegal, have not yet been indicted?
This is perhaps the worst, most corrupt, AG that "We the People" have ever been saddled with. It is time he departs.
LOL! that's a good one. Apparently you aren't a google guy either.
So instead of just a mere perjury violation, he is guilty of breaking international law.
……I am – I looked up "Assclown" and got your whole life story……
Did it have a flattering photo, or a regular file shot that made her look old, fat, ugly and bitter with bad skin?
The kind that helps cover for your drinking if you get into a wreck and swim off?
What kind of lab do you liberals support?
Poor Helen. You try so hard, and it's just not working. You really don't mind me calling you Helen do you? I think that's the ancient Greek goddess of overweigh older women with bad skin.
Did he really try to blame Bush??
Helen, that's wonderful. When you do get started are you going to keep going until you find a place that accepts you for what you are?
http://uglydemocrats.com/democrats/United-States/...
One where you get the love and acceptance you deserve?
One that lets you ramble even after you're drinking and the midol hasn't kicked in yet?
Helen, you really should quit living the life of Keith Olbermann. All the hate and stupid could leave your face frozen that way.
….It was a bizarre hybrid of lab rat, slave-puppy and Karl Marx….
Liars always change their story.
It's hard keeping all of them (the lies) straight.
Good. Now google “teabagger party”
…I'll leave you to wallow in your sad, demented gay fantasies, Cornel…
P.S. 333 days to Obumbler's eviction……Buh bye, Commie Clown
I think you meant to say overweight…
You mean Bill Ayers will be writing his memoirs when Obama's back in Chicago…
And that'll be happening in 408 days, 20 hours and 14 minutes.
Next. Call Obama before a committee and *remind* him of his responsibility to the Constitutional Republic, and not some theoretical Ivory Tower " democracy "
You poor people are going to be so screwed. I wouldn't put it past some of you to commit suicide when the president wins a second term. I look forward to the finger pointing and name calling. The clown show will be fun for all.
Helen isn't real big on details.
The nerves in between drinks bother her, I'm sure you understand….
As in "Michelle Obama is very overweight since she single-handedly decimated the pig, shellfish populations in 3 years of government supported feeding."?
Got it!
For one to swear under oath would mean one has to have morals in the first place.
It makes me smile every time I think about the next election day. When the realization sinks in here how long four years actually is… kind of like what you feel now, but with no hope.
….hahahah – you mean like all those drama queen leftists who swore they'd leave America if George W. Bush was elected….then if he was re-elected !….
…..But, they didn't go nowhere's did they ?…..Sissy lying leftists !…hah
So, that is an issue with you Helen.
I suspected but didn't want to pry into personal matters.
Since you're not above discussing your weight issue…. how many years has it been since you had your first corset? Did the whale bones dig in too badly?
Did you have 'people' to help you get strapped in? Or did you have the liberal plantation back then?
Yes, it is those stinky hippies! Thumbs up for you, down twinkies for hippies.
She is a fine looking woman. The president is a lucky man.
Helen, you are such a poor dear thing.
More poor, and more thing than dear. But anyhow, you don't mind me calling you Helen do you? http://uglydemocrats.com/democrats/United-States/...
The Kennedy heir in Mass thought the same thing. And Scott sits in DC.
The Spector thing in Pa thought the same thing and he sits in Pa.
The democrat governor candidate in Hawaii thought that same thing.
You poor poor thing. All the government cheese and food stamps and people still hate being on the dole. You liberal marxists don't understand the 99% in the US flyover country do you?
Reagan did Helen, and he had a landslide. You just relax in front of MSNBC and have another drink, just to 'calm your nerves' of course.
You sure you don't mind me calling you Helen? http://uglydemocrats.com/democrats/United-States/...
Helen, you shock me. You didn't give that stately 375 pound woman your beauty tips did you?
You sure you don't mind me calling you Helen? http://uglydemocrats.com/democrats/United-States/...
You're going to be in for a major shock.
As stupid as some Americans can be, as is evidenced by Obama being elected in the first place, there is no way this country will be dumb enough to put that d!ck stain back in office again. It doesn't matter whose going against him either, a can of dog food would beat that fool.
Holder the head of the Department of Injustice is not worth of trust, and he is a liar. This man should be arrested and forced to resign. This should be a criminal case at this point. If our justice system is failing, it is up to the people to give justice to those who have perished. People we will soon have to take matters into our own hands, it is coming to that point.
….Yeah, too bad he's as gay as Anderson Cooper…..
The crystal meth doesn't help either.
Yeah, Teddy had the bad form to die in the middle of a Republican year. But it will be corrected soon.And that will be fun to watch also, as Elizabeth Warren is sworn in to the senate. You people will go nuts.
Almost every poll in the last few months has Obama beating every one of his possible challengers. Willard is the only one even in the margin of error, and you hate him almost as much as Obama!
Helen, you shock me.
How could you discuss the genitals of males like you'd ever seen them?
You haven't started a barney Franks kind of friendship with a working fella have you? I know liberals have lowered standards but really Helen….
And you don't mind me calling you Helen do you?
…That ain't what they say in Chicago…..and you know it….
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