Holder Hearings Part One: Rep. Issa Strikes a Blow and Rep. Sensenbrenner Says Holder Could Face Impeachment
by AWR HawkinsOnce Lamar Smith (R-TX) opened the hearings with comments on Fast and Furious and then passed the baton to Congressman John Conyers (D-MI), it seemed the hearings would be a wash. That’s because it was evident from the start that Conyers was there to carry water for Holder. For example, Conyers used his opening comments to highlight the “life and contributions” of Holder, and to highlight the need for more gun control in the United States. He particularly supported the new requirement for border state gun stores to file special reports on customers who make multiple long gun purchases. (Conyers made no mention of the thousands of long guns transferred to criminals via the DOJ/ATF operation Fast and Furious.)
Congressman Bobby Scott (D-VA) used his opening comments to call for more gun control, and was particularly critical of concealed handgun laws and of Republican support of concealed handgun laws. Moreover, Scott actually defended Holder by blaming gun walking on President Bush. (For the record, there was an operation called Wide Receiver under Bush, but it was very small and was done in conjunction with the Mexican government rather than by keeping the Mexican government in the dark as Holder did with Fast and Furious.)
Folks, the whole tone of the hearing changed when Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) was allowed to make his opening statement. He contented that gun control was not the important matter before the committee. Rather, “what is important is the 2nd Amendment.” Added Issa, “ATF Used Fast and Furious to make case for gun regulations”
After this opening salvo, Issa was on a roll:
This administration is more interested in building data bases, in talking about control, than controlling the flow of guns they had control over. …[Fast and Furious] was not an accident. This project was failed and flawed from the beginning.
Issa went on to make the point that “Brian Terry is dead today because of this program,” yet Holder and Co. are hesitant to investigate Terry’s murder for fear of uncovering their own culpability to a greater degree. Said Issa: “This justice department is not looking for who killed Brian Terry” in order to preserve their own “plausible deniability.”
Issa continued:
The president has said he has full confidence in this attorney general. I have not confidence in a president who has not terminated those…who knew enough to stop this program. …Mr. attorney general, the blame must go to your desk. Why haven’t you terminated the many people involved?
Once the opening comments were over, and the actual hearing began, Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI) warned Holder that he was tired of not getting the truth on Fast and Furious. He complained that up till now, Holder’s answers had been “gees, somebody else did it.”
Sensenbrenner then basically said we can do this the easy way or the hard way. He told Holder that the A.G. could either give Congress the truth they were asking for or “impeachment” could be pursued.
That’s right: Sensenbrenner said “impeachment” to Holder’s face.
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"Impeachment:—–?
HOW ABOUT JAIL TIME !
Accessory to murder… holder and obama!
We all know he is guilty of Perjury. We all know the order came from Obama.
If Obama loses Holder, he loses his cover man. He loses the ability to look the other way with the New Black Pampers intimidating voters in 2012. He loses part of his Chicago goon squad.
Impeachment is a good start, but not the end, and I am really tired of having to look at that asshat.
" For example, Conyers used his opening comments to highlight the “life and contributions” of Holder, and to highlight the need for more gun control in the United States."
That's very strange that you would make such a statement, Mr. Conyers. The Constitution of The United States of America states very clearly that there shall not be any gun control. The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, Mr. Conyers. I believe that you just failed the basic entrance level Constitutional literacy test for office, and as such you should either step down or else be removed immediately from office.
I do not want to see him impeached.
Impeaching an Attorney General is preposterous in it's premise.
He needs arrested, shackled, led from Washington, and frog-marched straight to Leavenworth.
Prosecute Holder for High Crimes against a Nation. Then Obama et al.
they're going to feed Lanny Breuer to the conservative 'sharks' and hope that's enough…
The problem for them is classic. They are either crooked liars or incompetent boobs. Actually, one CAN be both.
But either way, they will catch their lunch on this. Holder is on the tube as we speak lying his lilly livered arse off.
Like most politicians (and All progressives) the truth means little; they are 'outcome based' and how they get there means even less. He'll lie like a rug and knows the media will cover for him.
But the facts here are damning. Add Solyndra and you have enough scandal to topple any government. That's why the 'crisis' will cme, and soon. Think 'war'…
Holder's not going anywhere….
And nobody in Congress has the stones to put this POS where he belongs….
The Constitution says no such thing. There have been various forms of gun control today and throughout the history of the United States. It is your Constitutional literacy that is wanting.
BO and Holder are identical in their leadership rolls. Both lead from the rear and cast blame on anything and everyone else rather than themselves, and both refuse to accept any responsibility for their own gaffs and failures. It another open case of dumb and dumber.
Lovely (sarc). Perhaps before Christmas?
We are watching the meme on an intellectually gifted president unfold. How is it someone supposedly so smart can hire people so stupid to run such a failed criminal enterprise for the government??
If the rumor is also true that there is money laundering involved, it begs the question – who was getting paid by whom to do what. Sounds like the mexican cartels are cash bundlers for the prez.
Eric Holder is nothing but a red herring.
He carries water for his boss Barry.
This need laid at Barry's doorstep.
It's called the second ammendment, and yes it does say precisely that. Now if you dare to go affirm that your posting is in fact incorrect, then let's see what level of idiocy you will apply in getting tripped up on the militia clause.
"Sensenbrenner then basically said we can do this the easy way or the hard way. He told Holder that the A.G. could either give Congress the truth they were asking for or “impeachment” could be pursued."
FINALLY, someone on capitol hill with the nads to use the I word.Following through should be the next logical step and drag the investigation into Nov 2012.
It would be interesting to know if MONEY was MADE off this Gun Walking…your know the drug cartels have Gazillions of Cash…the GUNS were certainly NOT FREE! WHO ponied up the MONEY to FUND Fast and Furious? and WHO MADE MONEY off it the whole disgusting operation????
When the president of Mexico spoke to our Congress he was APPLAUDED when he complained that GUNS from USA were such a big problem for Mexico and were responsible for all the murders and violence there! Those people who KNEW this was going on couched as a "GOV. Operation" were sitting there clapping their hands!
WATERBOARD the Compulsive Liars for the Truth . Hold er your breath eric !
Any of them seeking high office should grow a pair very quickly – show us that they have the right stuff.
Although the pair would be quite inconvenient on the one I am rooting for….
Congressman Issa, enough clowning around, stop wasting time and money. You must either appoint a special prosecutor to investigate further
OR
CHARGE ALL THESE CRIMINALS, NOW!
Politicians are the most disgusting people in the world, after pedophiles, and for Democrats to toe the party line on this is revolting.
Is there any integrity in Washington??
" He particularly supported the new requirement for border state gun stores to file special reports on customers who make multiple long gun purchases. (Conyers made no mention of the thousands of long guns transferred to criminals via the DOJ/ATF operation Fast and Furious.)"
And yes, Conyers is a bane to our country- a Consitutional illiterate; a veritable hypocritical socialist tool and enemy of U.S..
Too soon – that would give it time to fizzle out like the occupy thugs. No, they need it to hit its height in July/August next year. That would be close enough to the elections to prevent the tea party picking up steam, but enough time to cement the police state before the protests on what used to be election day.
Don't forget Money Laundering, illegal transportation of fire arms across state lines, RICO, Perjury, Contempt, aiding and abetting known felons, collusion, conspiracy, treason, traitor….
I'm sure I could come up with others….I mean the federal stautes are larger than the Encyclopedia Brittanica!!!
For plotting against the American People, Eric "The Racist" Holder should be given the maximum penalty for treason!
he'll lose nothing… he's got 50 more just like him. it amazes me how they just keep these guys coming out of the woodwork. we're infested.
I'm thinking Rikers would be more……"hospitable"…….at least to my judgement…..
Treachery will come home to this Traitor of the Truth.
Did they pay their taxes???
I mean…..we did jail Capone for tax evasion!!!
It is Christmas.
I'd like to give him a gift subscription for a dozen Shock Treatments.
ROFLMAO
You bastard!!! Now I have to go and clean the coffee off my computer!!!! You should NEVER do something like that, especially early in the morning!!!
LOL
I don't think the importance of this has been truly explained.
We have existing gun laws. We have Constitutional provisions which guide our enactment of gun laws.
This administration receives dollars from groups that believe their desire to more strictly control guns trumps the Constitution.
In response to the dollars the administration has received, they took it upon themselves to VIOLATE the existing control laws in an effort to demand stricter controls.
There is no way to positively spin this. This is the absolute definition of political corruption.
And, on a positive note, this operation confirms that the laws we have DO work. The fact the Government had to conspire to have the laws broken demonstrates that the laws are working.
So, in summary this operation proves:
The administration is corrupt, fully.
Our gun control laws work, unless the government decides to force non-compliance.
Look around you. There are gun control laws everywhere. The Supreme Court has affirmed the right of governments to put ristrictions (or “controls”) on gun ownership and use. Try going to Academy Sports to buy a hunting rifle without filling out a page and a half of paperwork. Why do you think every state government licenses gun dealers? Control. Governments have mandated that felons and in some cases those convicted of misdemeanor domestic abuse not be allowed to own firearms. Try buying a machine gun or hand grenade without government permission. That's all control. Try taking your gun to court with you the next time you go to pay a speeding ticket. Well actually, don't try that. The ticket will be the least of your problems.Let's face it. We are no longer a frontier nation of four million. Putting some government controls on the right to bear arms is modern fact of life.
they'll drag their feet as long as possible; they hope the coming war will bail them all out. As Deus correctly pointed out they all pretty much know 'where the bodies are buried'. So far, they have just matriculated to Soros University (one of the prog think tanks) ala Van Jones.
Good pay for no work and a whole LOT of shut up.
But if the war doesn't happen until next March they may have to offer a few heads. This is killing them right now…
Yes it would…
I've actually held her hand and looked in her eyes and saw a core of conviction….
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg and Deputy Attorney General David Ogden held a news conference to announce the U.S.-Mexico Border Security Policy. March 24 2009 http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/MexicoBor&...
"The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves."
George Washington
What happened to trials and stuff like that first? Who is going to arrest the Attorney General of the United States? Isn't he the top law enforcement officer? He can't be arrested until after he has been impeached. Same goes for the President. They have to be removed from office before they can be arrested.
And you're a whiny bagger. Life isn't perfect.
Put up or shut up. Specific facts. Jeeesh, your worse then Bo Bo Husker butt boy the clown.
I thought it was just my opinion, that Issa has become a jerk-off.
He sure hasn't done much.
He is afraid of his dirty laundry.
Some tidbits on Conyers.
http://theblogprof.blogspot.com/2009/06/monica-co...
More is available. Just google john conyers corruption.
The Founders never made any Consitutional mandate for the modification of the second ammendment based upon societal change, congressional or judicial error. Look around you. The second ammendment is not the only Consitutional mandate that the Federal, State and local governments violate every day. Holder is a perfect example of this. Does that make it right? Not at all. Wake up, Nine. Pull your head out and wake up. It's time to return to our social contract before society completely implodes.
Thank God I am not an attorney, but I do not think that is the case.
Sooner, or later, someone's going to decide that he doesn't want to take one for the team…
So far, no one wants to risk being another buried body….
Don't forget a really aggressive and needy low life cellmate!
Democrats are weenies guilty of covering for murderous thug Holder. Mel Watt is talking about intellectual property and voting rights, the slimeball.
It's called treason. Willfully violating an oath to uphold the Constituition. He became an enemy of the state by his action, let's start treating his as such!!!!!! Yes I am pissed off!
We could make a short list, but immediately OJ comes to mind.
Oh Baby, oh Baby!
What would be my punishment if I sold a few thousand assault rifles (assuming I could get my hands on few thousand assault rifles) to Mexican drug lords. I suspect it would be a bit harsher than just losing my job.
Most gun purchases require a background check to make sure you're not a convicted felon. All states that allow concealed carry require government permits… all forms of control.
When the Truth becomes undeniable and Justice is at hand…
Obama and his regime will order their usefull idiots to create Chaos.
Martial Law comes, it is the only way these criminals can escape.
Impeachment first then indictments.
That will never happen…..
Spooky Dude's Shadow Republican Party would never allow it…..
Spot on! The only thing I feel you left out is their "gaffs and failures" are in fact intentional.
as long as they think they can pull this nonsense off NO ONE will defect.
But if we turn the tide the rats will jump ship in droves and their movement will be no more.
Believe it or not that just might happen, too…
Christ, next they will claim they were trying to reduce the deficit!
I hear words, but I see no action…
This whole thing's a farce….
C'mon man, quit being such a p*ssy
The perp walk was invented for people like Eric Holder.
So you admit that we have lots of government control of firearms, only that you don't like it. Well see, that's a whole different topic.The founders are dead, we're not. We chose who gets to carry a firearm and who does not. You may not like that, but tough tittty… said the kitttty.
Woman have gonads, my boy, big brass ones. They are simply not visible. I assume you are familiar with female anatomy, but perhaps not Latin.
Her life is the proof that she has the needed ones.
The Consitution is very nearly perfect and it is your ilk that make it all go downhill from there.
And while there is no reason to whine about it; merely work to fix that problem, I would begin by being curious to know what the bag limit is on Nine9s. So maybe that makes me a 'bagger'.
Impeachment is not enough! He should be facings a fireing line for treason. Aiding and abetting the enemy is treason, and I don't think there is anyone who could deny the mexican drug cartel is an enemy.
Impossible without the senate, I agree with you fully but the reality sucks. There is no decency or honesty in the DEMMACOMMYCRAT Senate. Veto proof senate majority is more important then the next republican nominee.
Most corrupt administration since Hayes'.
Hope he loudly demands a special prosecutor this afternoon!
No.
Then string him up!!
LEftist, is not illiterate, it is "other comprehending". That is why they think that people are not capable of governing themselves…they, themselves are "challenged".
Now, Repub weenie from CA talking about health care black market. Is Holder paying these people to distract? OOOHH, now we have professional liar Sheila Jackson Lee.
Nope!
Geez stop whining. If you don't like my post just hit the delete key. You'll feel a lot better.
You don't want to go there son.
Let's start a pool to predict exactly when this administration will declare martial law and suspend elections. I'm going with a week before elections next year.
If that happens look for gun confiscations to start in earnest.
What will you do when there's a knock on your door to demand your guns….
The first run needs to be in April/May so people have time to know it exists and let it bubble, ferment if you prefer, over the summer. Your timeline works for a second run-up into the election. These criminals MUST be deposed.
I am thinking bigger, angrier, and less educated. Basically modern version of the missing link. But I like where you are going, just hoping to push it lower.
I wonder if Holder and Blago would still be "friends"??
Look, I know you can't help being a p*ssy but would it hurt to try and tone it down just a little? You've established that you suck at being a human being already, do you have to compound it by posting galactically stupid comments? Is there some left-wing idiot award you're going for?
I won't call it a farce just yet, as I posted, it was good to see someone start the conversation of impeachment, now we will see where it goes and hope the word impeachment is put into the daily conversation concerning these criminals in the WH.
You come out with insults, then tell us to stop whining? You need to shut your pie hole and go back under the rock you crawled out from under.
oooooh scary……
you're such a p*ssy….
Is Hannibal Lechter still in jail???
LOL
I still think the DEMwit party made mucho dineros off this plot!
Holder perjured himself when he said "I only heard of F&F last week"
They threw Martha Steward in jail for avoiding a loss of $50,000 but members of congress have made millions with impunity, They threw Scooter Libby in jail for 30 months and fined him $250,000 for perjury which ended up being a witch hunt and now we have this scum bag Holder getting away with it?
It is an outrage…when will we the American people come to our senses and insist on justice!
I am more then ready to descend on Washington but it will take millions of us…I am so pissed off I am ready for anything.
Ah, deflect the topic of the article and argue semantics of the fine print. Typical lefty, shift, deflect, and change the subject.
As long as they have no cover, no one will defect. Look at how they do it. Rezko, Blago and now Breuer (nice try, but not enough) got in the way. They either reflected badly or dared to cross the Chicago Mobsters. The older guy from the IG office back in 08 or 09 was one of the first to fall. We don't know about any of the less public ones. MANY criminals have had cover from the current admin, and many whistleblowers have been publicly flogged.
The ones who would opt into America again are well aware the media would let them go down in flames. They would need a very smart plan to get out of this without jail time.
Impeachment is not removal from office, it is an indictment. Congress can impeach Holder then put him on trial. The outcome of the trial can be a not guilty verdict, or a guilty verdict punishable by removal from office, jail, etc.
Oh…I think THIS Regime in DC today would DENY DENY DENY that the Mexican Drug Cartels are OUR ENEMY!
I guess that would be the result of turning the tide–cover provided.
and most treacherous administration ever.
That's even worse…
The topic was what the constitution says. You have done a fine job of bringing the topic around to saying that black is white. In the same vein as the Pope is not infallible, judges are not infallible. Because you refuse to admit that the constitution says what it says, does not make it the truth.
Exactly. Barry's actions make him look like he thinks he is a comic book action figure. He simply is not reality based.
The buck stops somewhere over there. I have no knowledge of the buck, so I really couldn't tell you.
"What will you do when there's a knock on your door to demand your guns…."
Pledge my allegiance to Iran.
you're a whiny bagger.
No this fits you much batter. the act of putting another males genitals in the mouth fits a Homosexual Fudgpacker like you much better. I guess when you look in the mirror you see two hairy testicles stuffed in your mouth.
Sometimes they are one and the same…
Rezko and Blago know the pardons are coming.
They will be done a variety of ways depending on what happens to their movement.
But they are coming. Blago got a very stiff sentence; Obama can 'justify' a huge reduction
(think time served) for him and the same for his house buddy Rezko. All they need to do is keep drinking the cup fulls of 'shut the f#*k up'…
Never going to happen If Obama killed the Border Agent himself the Marxist press would spike the story.
That would be a big part of Uh0bama's base. He would be at a party.
MooShelle?
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