Holder Thumbs His Nose at Brian Terry’s Family, Says We Need More Gun Control
by AWR HawkinsIn testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Nov. 8th, Attorney General Eric Holder continued to claim he knew nothing about guns being walked into Mexico until after the fact, and that he knew nothing about operation Fast and Furious until earlier this year. With little worry that he had given a completely different answer to the House Oversight Committee on May 3rd, a non-repentant Holder told the Senators:
I first learned about the tactics and the phrase “Operation Fast and Furious” at the beginning of this year — I think when it became a matter of all of this public controversy. In my testimony before the House Committee, I did say “a few weeks.” I probably could have said “a couple of months.” I don’t think that what I said in terms of using the term “a few weeks” was inaccurate, based on what happened.
Come on Mr. Holder, this is getting ridiculous.
What makes it worse is that neither timeline is honest: In other words, he neither found out about it a few weeks ago or earlier this year. Rather, he was briefed on Fast and Furious in mid-summer 2010 and three months later was sent memos which dealt with specifically with gun walking into Mexico.
And who can forget Holder’s own speech in Mexico on April 2, 2009, wherein he boasted of operation Gunrunner:
Last week, our administration launched a major new effort to break the backs of the cartels. My department is committing 100 new ATF personnel to the Southwest border in the next 100 days to supplement our ongoing Project Gunrunner, DEA is adding 16 new positions on the border, as well as mobile enforcement teams, and the FBI is creating a new intelligence group focusing on kidnapping and extortion. DHS is making similar commitments, as Secretary Napolitano will detail. (emphasis mine)
By the way, what does the name “Gunrunner” signify if not the intention to run (or walk) guns?
In addition to refusing to come clean on exactly when he first knew of Fast and Furious (and what he knew), Holder also had the gall to tell the Senate Judiciary Committee that the real issue they needed to focus on was “the battle to stop the flow of illegal guns to Mexico.” In other words, what we should be focusing on here is the need for gun control in order to keep the Southern border safe. To that end, Holder said the ATF should receive increased powers via the increased “resources and statutory tools it needs to be effective.”
Note to Eric Holder: One way the ATF could be more effective is if it would quit forcing gun store owners to sell guns to straw purchasers who turn around and pass those guns to criminals.
Lastly, and most sickening of all, Holder said he hasn’t apologized to Border Agent Brian Terry’s family and that he doesn’t plan on doing so. When Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) asked Holder why he refuses to do so, the AG responded: “It is not fair…to assume that the mistakes that happened in Fast & Furious directly led to the death of Agent Terry.” This is outrageous because the ties between Terry’s death and Fast and Furious are not based on assumption, but on fact. At least three weapons from Fast and Furious were discovered by Terry’s body: two of which U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke tried to cover up and one of which the FBI tried to cover up. We even know which straw purchaser purchased them.
Holder must be prosecuted. When he appears before the House committee next month Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) should wait till the cameras are rolling then have Holder handcuffed and frog marched out of the hearing for his ongoing contempt of the Senate, the House, and the people of the United States.







Subscribe via RSS
Got a Tip?
141 Comments
Holder seems smarmy to me…
"Holder must be prosecuted."
No schit sherlock.
I can come up with a few more creative things that should happen to Eric Holder,
I will let your imagination run with that one.
The ends will justify the means…
And there's plenty of means to justify the end of Holder's appointment, not to mention prison time…
It is time for a special investigator to be appointed and for Holder to face a trial on perjury, obstruction of justice, lying to congress, the death of Terry Walker. Once convicted he must face a long prison term to show other political appointees the American people will not tolerate such willful disregard for the law he is supposed to enforce. The man is simply a dirt bag.
Only in Libtardville could someone like Eric "not my people" Holder could back an operation that was designed to put guns in the hands of criminals by circumventing existing gun laws be defended by the same fool as being a result of not enough gun laws.
Of course, what the weasel will never say is that the program was INTENDED to create gun violence on the border, so they could justify more gun laws… As Obama said to Sarah Bradey "We're working under the radar (on gun control)".
Do you really expect these swarmy Republicans do anything of any substance against Obama and Holder when the best they can do as whine for an apology?
And then have Holder shut down even the thought of offering an apology?
It would have been interesting to have had him wired to a lie detector while he testified. Bet the needles would have pegged.
Yes for Gun Control! … so long as it applies to our Fed government!!! They're the ones breaking the LAW and causing the problem here!
How is it that NOBODY is pointing a finger at Holder and saying "This is a catastrophe created by YOU and the Goverment!"
You're being too kind. He will go down in history as one of our worst traitors, and when he goes down so will this entire Anti-American Administration.
Holder is responsible for all deaths that occurred as a result of Fast and Furious. It's time for him to get a good long look at the greasy side of the bus and be forced out of the DoJ. Then when we get a real President, we can prosecute him without fear of a pardon.
It would have fried it like sticking a knife in a toaster.
that is what this was intended to do..
give themselves a REASON to take the guns..
WON'T WORK WHORELLER !
So what does it take to put two and two together here? Fast & Furious and the DOJ suing states and local law enforcement over illegal immigrants?
Come on! Chicago politics isn't rocket science.
You're probably right…I am just so disgusted with both sides of the aisle…Don't know quite what to think…the only thing I know without doubt is this:
Herman Cain 2012
We experienced the largest reorganization of government, along with a huge expansion of it, with the Department of Homeland Security. Note – Bush wanted an OFFICE, not a DEPARTMENT.
And this nations Attorney General testifies, UNDER OATH, that he "learned" about GunWalker from MEDIA REPORTS. For this to be true, Eric Holder is SAYING that the reorganization and expansion is a FAILURE.
GunWalker is exposing the CIRCLE JERK that is our LYING government.
Holder, the cover-man, needs to be steadily investigated and prosecuted for High Crimes against this Nation. Obama is the same, a traitor of the highest order. Both need to be removed from Office for treason.
Also, most of their Fed Agencies need to be investigated for corruption and collusion. America is under seige by these two.
Mine has…
"Darrell Issa (R-CA) should wait till the cameras are rolling then have Holder handcuffed and frog marched out of the hearing"
That would be a video I'd save and treasure for the rest of my life.
He not only avoided an apology, in that same breath he absolved government from responsibility of the reality that government put the gun in the hand of the person( Who is possibly a FBI paid "informant") who shot Brian Terry.
And still we witness a SILENT SPEAKER of the House.
Why does a cat have John Boehner's tounge? Hmmm?
Every time Holder lies people DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This also goes for this whole administration.
From where I'm sitting we need far more "Government Control" then gun control . . .
Our government is responsible for putting hundreds of guns into criminals hands that would not be there if the government just followed the laws on the books and not given them to them.
I'm wondering ow many of those "creative things" could happen to him inside a Mexican prison.
It doesn't take a machine to know he's lying….
but I'd still love to attach some jumper cables to this cretin….
Fair weather conservatives decry this – yet it is molehill in comparison to what the government does when conducting WAR – the big government program that the easily-led conservatives seem to have no problem with.
lmao,
why the hell did you have to " GO THERE" ?
If gun control is hitting what you are aiming at, I'm all for gun control.
Was this public and recorded evidence played for the committee with Holder sitting there listening? Why are they playing nice with the same dept that thinks they can help murderers and drug dealers and not be held responsible??
DUH DUHH HHUHHH DUH? WHAT IS IS. DUHH DU HHUHUHUH!
We don't conduct war anymore. We nation build.
Some day we may live to see what war is all about, if that day comes you and I will become water vapor and dust.
That is what we are trying to avoid by doing what we do now.
Fueling a "cause" for more gun control was the original intent of this operation–but someone spoke up! Something went wrong! So–here's Holder resuming the original intent.
The problem is , controlling crime, violence and criminals was NEVER the intent behind Fast and Furious.It's only point is to sublimate the US constitution as the media lied to whip up popular support behind gun control.
Tragedy is, in politics , the people actually culpable for the policy catastrophes they create never see the justice they deserve. Still, the arrogance alone this gang has demonstrated is beyond belief sometimes, they truly are elitist.
I know, I know! Bush started this, I'm not letting them off the hook either, but Holder and Obama took it to its ultimate extreme.
The gun control Holder is talking about is the kind that takes guns out of honest people's hands, these are Holders true enemies, not the criminals. The honest American citizen is the true enemy, just like America is the true enemy right Mr. Holder?
Holder says "we need more gun control". THAT is the agenda behind this gunrunning fiasco. Always has been. Both holder, incompetano and his corrupt boss are culpable in this.
That's putting it kindly.
He AND his false messiah care not for anyone American…anything American!
THEY ARE ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA…AND IT IS A SHAME…A REAL SHAME THAT THERE WERE SO MANY DEAF, DUMB AND BLIND IN 2008…THAT WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE HANDWRITING ON THE WALL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/10/willf...
This pos belongs in jail! He lies all the time! Holder must Go!!!!!!
Thousands…….thousands of guns.
The FBI is responsible for NICS. In order for a large number of those thousands of guns to go from the FFL to the purchaser, the FBI had to bypass NICS checks. That means there can be no question that multiple agencies, departments and bureaus HAD to be coordinated. DHS, DOS, ICE, FBI CIA, BP and even likely state and local government bodies on some level had to be involved on some level.
In order for departments to coordinate, the order to do so had to come from ABOVE the department heads.
One of two things then has to be true. ALL of the department heads went off on their own, which screams RIIIICCCCOOOOO, or Barry gave the order.
Gee, which is more likely? And if they all went off on their own, why hasn't Barry sent them all packing?
That means BARRY is BUSTED – which is why media has for almost a year now avoided this like the plague.
Bet I know where you'd attach them……
Wait, scratch that….he doesn't have any……
I have to say, John Boehner is facilitating the ongoing foolishness with his silence. Clearly treason has taken place. Traitors are domestic enemies. Intentional silence that aids and abets traitors is itself treasonous.
Why is the Speaker so SILENT? And when is HE held to account for his slence?
Think about all of those falsified ATF forms . . . holy cow . . . if you and I did that we would be in the pokey right quick!
I can't help pondering what would happen to a Republican Attorney-general caught in such a scandal. He'd be lucky to escape murder charges.
Isn't that rich? Its all YOUR fault, you need to have YOUR guns controlled, so the good and wonderful, Government doesn't do this anymore.
Amazing leap of logic, if you ask me.
Holder and Obama are Jihadis….IslamoFascists….they need the Gitmo Cure….
The only problem with that scenario is, Holder has an ARMY of Lawyers working under him, and believe me when I tell you, they already have their defense all worked out. That is how they play the game man
Oh, that's the rationalization – because I was certain that what we are doing is ensuring that is the case.
I believe that WE THE PEOPLE can show him what 'gun control' really is!!!
Oh CW, why must you always be wrong.
For conservatives, we only conduct war when needed and is done constitutionally. Yet, when a liberal/progressive conducts way, they can get away with doing it unconstitutionally and by word of other nations and not our own.
What Holder is doing is nothing small in comparison, as he is trying to violate our second amendment rights. He is doing enough that would put him out of the job and possibly be labeled as a traitor and failure to do his actual job.
Last time I looked, over 30 per cent are ready do it again!
What was that line about repeating the same mistake expecting different results?
Tell me another way to avoid a nuclear exchange. I'm all ears. I mean keys . . .
Holder is a criminal. Until he is behind bars there is no rule of law in America.
"If you always do…what you always did…you will always get what you always got"!
The only difference between 2008 and 2012…in 2008 it was the role of the Democratzi 'loons'…and in 2012…it appears the conservatives are too readily wanting to fill that role!
Best wishes…for a better tomorrow…where we all learn from our past mistakes and don't repeat them!
That does present a problem…
Well, then he'll have to get a little wet…
Ain't gonna happen. Right now the sausage making apparatus is churning out rules and regs in Obama's basement and all the Republicans can do is sit on their hands and wait out 2012 elections and hope they don't offend anyone and lose.
<DIV>Good one! I agree.</DIV> <DIV style=”FONT: 10pt arial”>
What ARE you babbling on about now?
There was an interesting technique used in the first Lethal Weapon series involving water, battery and cables…..
Just sayin….
The ONLY gun control needed is with the military firing squad for Obie & Holder. Although, if they use full auto, not so much…
Obumble, and Holder, two of the most arrogant people in the U.S….It seems like the two of them have done so much damage to the people and the country that they would be behind bars by now..
Go to hell Eric Holder…culpa lata.
The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution are the Bill of Rights….guarantees.
Any so called gun controls must be done with a Constitutional amendment.
More gun control was the objective to this operation, it just blew up in their faces, Hillary was speaking somewhere about how they get all their guns from the United States and lo and behold this story breaks, the whole thing just wreaks!!
As I once pointed out, it's that '70s-era pornstar mustache that's the first clue to his smarminess.
Gun control means using BOTH hands!
haha – good one.
gun control??? my dad, granpa and granma taught me gun control…
a steady hand!!!
This PATHETIC EXCUSE for an AG should be on trial. Then sent to prison for a very long time!
I'll bet your packing heat.
can you spel revolution???…
it's comin'…to a neighborhood near you…
revolution is easy…misspel is much harder!!!…
"We need more gun control"
Let them try and implement that thought and I'd wager they'll find out what gun control really is.
He admitted the plan was a mistake. By your logic we should hold the Bush administration responsible for all of the deaths from their mistakes…. like Iraq.
It's cute how you pinheads found a way to make this a Republican's fault! Have fun voting for Obama again next year.
We could easily spend the whole day on this…
I've always said that Barry will never throw Eric under the bus, as he knows where the proverbial bodies are buried….
Clueless about what's going on under his nose in his own organization. Joe Pa for AG!
Like many words in the English language, treason has a definition. It is the only crime defined in our Constitution, and it doesn't include prosecuting public officials who displease you. You want to get rid of Holder then don't vote for Obama. But unless you want to be accused of real treason (as opposed to right wing cartoon treason), you have to accept the results of the election like the rest of us. Remember what the not-so-great man once said… elections have consequences.
Lying to congress is a crime which our teaparty-drenched congress would love to prove if they could. But they can't.
We have far more control over our government than other powerful institutions in our country, like multi-national corporations. You can always vote the government out if you don't like it. Try voting against Walmart.
It's called separation of powers… it's in the Constitution. You should read up on it.
Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. Step out of line, the man comes, and takes you a way.
200 dead in Mexico from Fast & Furious guns and hundreds more to come as the drug war continues. Only a small percentage of the smuggled guns have been recovered.
Used to be smuggling guns across an international border was a crime. Selling guns to narco terrorists who kill people used to make you an accessory to the crime.
When did that change Barry?
Give Holder, Napalitano, Clinton, Obama, and whoever the litle fish are in this f*ing criminal enterprise to the Mexicans for justice to be served.
Holder, come to the range with me and I'll show you my "gun control".
The needles would not have moved at all………….He is so ignorant that he does not even know he is LYING!!!
I do it often.
By buying something from Target, or Dicks Sporting goods, or a local shop.
I get to vote with my dollars with every purchase I make.
(I should also mention that without Walmart my college experience would have been a nightmare, far beyond what it already was.)
Very true……on both points….
That's why the president will not let Americans forget about the financial meltdown in 2008. We don't want frustrated Americans to turn to the very people who destroyed our economy just 3 short years ago.
In jail? You can't even vote Obama out of office, let alone jail him. So say it with me:
Four more years.
i would prefer to use roach spray for roaches…
Apparently you've never met a terrorist. So here's a newsflash: not everyone who disagrees with you is a terrorist.
So you want to kill the president of the United States? Now who's the terrorist.
Yeah, too bad they are the duly elected government of the United States. Damn you democracy!
Untrue. There are plenty of gun control laws on the books that have been found to be perfectly constitutional. Seriously, you need to come out of the information bubble you have created for yourself.
Aren't you the clever little redneck…
First, Holder says he didn't know anything about Gunwalker. Then he says the reason for "that thing he didn't know anything about" was that we need gun control laws. So, he didn't know anything about it, but knows the reason for "that thing he didn't know anything about". And, he expects us to believe that the reason for it came from the ATF, not the Obama administration. Right.
Then, if the gun store owners refuse to break the law like they are suppose to, the ATF should have the power to do so, so we can blame the gun store owners and the gun laws.
I thought the congress was full of lawyers. Why are they wasting time asking him to apologize when they should be grilling him on the absurdities in his testimony?
You really think that a vote trumps the Constitution, don't you Mr. Fourmoreyears?
Fool.
However, he could end up in a park with two self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the head…
Can you spell spell? Misspell isn't that hard either.
It's going to be a revolution of dumba$$es
A threat against the Attorney General of the United States. That's bad form even by right wing standards.
You are missing a much bigger picture, is that it is the state and local government that vary gun control, but they can never eliminate the 2nd Amendment.
Just to add, all the areas that have strict gun control always have the highest levels of crime and criminal activity. It does help if you get out of your information bubble and get a dose of reality instead.
True wnelson, true. However, gun owners are a larger army……….a much larger one. They should tread carefully how they choose to play this game, for what is at stake truly is Liberty itself.
The last two times that happened, "governments" at the times, well, they tried to play on the side of snatching it away and keeping it, and both lost badly. Today's government would be wise to stay away from "third time is the charm" dogma.
Psalm Ch 109: Vs 8 is working.
For conservatives, we only conduct war when needed and is done constitutionally.
You are going to find very few who will say these pointless wars were needed or Constitutional.
Government is specifically empowered to engage in war. It is specifically barred from infringing upon the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
See that comparison? See it yet? You want the government NOT to do what it is empowered to do and NOT do what it IS empowered to do.
Clockwise, you cannot get any more backward than you are being here……unless of course you are actually 100% opposed to that thing called the C-O-N-S-T-I-T-U-T-I-O-N.
You must be logged in to post a comment.