BREAKING NEWS on Fast and Furious: Slide Show Indicates Holder May Have Known in March 2010
by AWR HawkinsFolks, I just checked my email inbox and found an ATF slide presentation on the Fast and Furious operation that journalist Paul Thacker somehow got his hands on.
The most important thing about it – It appears to have been compiled by the ATF for use in briefing the DOJ on Fast and Furious in March 2010.
Here’s the opening slide:
Notice that the fourth item on the agenda of the first slide is listed as: “Phoenix Case – Update on a significant firearms trafficking case”
It’s important to note that Acting Deputy Attorney General at the time the briefing occurred was Gary G. Grindler, who is now Eric Holder’s Chief of Staff.
Let me ask you a serious question: If Grindler knew about Fast and Furious in March 2010, do you think there’s any way Holder didn’t also know?
In other words, do you think there’s any real chance that the guy who was to become Holder’s Chief of Staff failed to fill his boss in on the “significant firearms trafficking case”?
Remember, on May 3, 2011 Holder told the House Oversight Committee he’d only learned of Fast and Furious “over the last few weeks.”
I bet he’d like to get a do-over on that one.
You can see the entire slide show here.
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The noose is tightening
"I bet he’d like to get a do-over on that one."
Yeah, I'm sure he would.
If he was allowed a do-over, he would have blamed this on all the fact that he's black and that everyone else is just a bunch of racists'…
I guess the guys who thought they were above the laws of the United States because they are the law are going to find out they really are not..
Let's hope the MSM stops ignoring this breaking and important story! Great job Mr. Thacker.
This operation seems to have offended enough of the people involved to risk exposing it. Good. It's nice to know there are still some in the government who have not sold their soul.
We need to stop on debating whether he knew or not. Anyone with a shred of info on this thing knows he was involved. Question is why is he hiding his knowledge? Protect himself or protect Emperor Obama? IMO this guy got his orders from the Emperor so maybe he is dragging this out long enough to try and cover traces back to the oval office. At this point the wagons are circling in nailing BHO on something impeachable.. its clear at this point.
Bigger question with all talking we should impeach why hasnt anyone started the process? Save that for another day.
BHO has made it clear from the time he was a senator to now he is anti-gun. He wants guns out of the equation on this machine he is building… if they switch it on now safe to say a repeat of 1860's on steroids. Slowly methodically, "below the radar" disarming of the public means less resistance obviously. Oh yes kids its that simple they need to get guns out of our hands. Holder is knee deep in this thing I just wish someone would have the stones to come forward and say "I was told to run the op by Holder". He is the pasty he will take the fall for Obama make no mistake about it, so maybe one with the dirt fears what the Emperor will do to them!
If you're reading this you are the resistance
I can't wait for the firing squads!
Mr.Holder thought the question was about the controversy regarding the program, not the program itself. So goes the spin.
There is no doubt that Holder knew! What really is troubling is that the stated objective of tracking weapons doesn't make any sense, since they had no way of doing it in Mexico. So what was the REAL purpose?
Hey Eric, that bus is getting closer. When Barry stands beside or behind you, watch out.
To make guns bad so they could overturn the second amendment. And without our guns, we are sheep.
In Holder's defense, he and the folks who surround him seem like the kind of people who fall asleep in meetings.
Anyway, with regard to this slide, I'm waiting for the inevitable cries of "Photoshopped!!!" from the lefties.
Everyone knows this whole affair was to demolish the 2nd Amendment…….to disarm citizens of weapons….period – end of story…….
This prihck Holder knew…..wouldn't be surprised if he knew all the way back to day one…..justice needs to be served…..cold, hard justice!
we all know holder is not telling the truth, but how do you nail him on it. i thought he mentioned it during a speech in mexico in 2009. this guy had to know about this, he is just pissed he got caught. i just want to know how high up in the whitehouse this goes.
Who remembers the months after Oliver North's testimony when the MSM drumbeat was about how lying to congress was a serious offense?
Clearly the MSM all have bad cases of pre-geriatric Alzheimer's.
well, holder only lied to republicans. It's not like he did anything wrong.
/sarc off
Really CR, do you expect anything less than a double standard? You should stop in at table9 more, too.
Heres some fun stuff about Eric youre going to love! http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/279201/hol...
There is not one person in the present administration that would know what the truth was if it hit them in their faces, it is THE most corrupt I have ever seen, they make Imelda Marcos look decent.
Damn all of them.
Eric has quite an illustrious past it would seem, I underestimated his abilities to lie efficiently in his post as Attorney General. What are the odds this boy is a practicing Muslim? He stands for Truth but he practices deceit?
And she had much better shoes.
Holder knew. Barry knew. Barry is the one who had to give the order to flow through the chain of his executive branch to facilitate it all. All the cabinet heads knew. And they all thought the only ones would would get killed would be Mexicans.
And Latinos here in this country voted for Barry and this crew. Now folks, fo you honestly think the exact same thing isn't going on with the "cartels" (known here as gangs) within this country just the same?
All while you and I are background checked and hamstrung and permission slipped to the point we can;t even carry a simply handgun? Remember now, I speak from the police state that is Illinois where exercise of the Second Amendment recognized right to bear arms is prohibited.
Issa says GunWalker was felony stupid. Well, Mr. Issa, how felony stupid is prohibiting the Second Amendment right to bear altogether? And why the heck don't you hold a hearing or write a strongly worded letter about THAT? Same to you Mr. SPEAKER. Interestingly, I wrote John Boehner about both that question and about GunWalker and amazingly there is no response. Imagine that.
As we talk here, a REAL LEADER in the attempt to expose this Scandal is being accosted in court. Denied his right to carry absent permission from government, denied his right to know and face his accuser, the court is being used to intimidate and punish a whistleblower of one the biggest scandal in history.
We have to stand together and I ask you all to stand with Mike. Stand up to government right here and right now. Stand up to the intimidation tactics used by this administration against all those who have had the courage to stand up to tell us all about this ugly corruption.
Go here and READ. And then HELP this man however you can. For he helped YOU, indeed all of us, by telling the truth about GunWalker right alongside David.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/
The time is NOW, folks, do not let this opportunity slip away. It is time for GunWalker to become a household name – even if media doesn't want that to happen.
One More Thing.
Sarah. I call on you, Sarah. I call on you to act. I call on you to think about Alaskans being subjected to the same prohibition that I as an Illinoisan endure. Think of all your fellow Alaskans disarmed – just like Illinoisans. I call on you to stand tall against Barry's attempt to fabricate a crisis that was fully intended to be used to impose the same Chicago Way on all states as is already imposed on us all here in Illinois.
Sarah, you coming out strong on this, and directly, will give so many others the extra bit of courage to do so themselves. The Time Is NOW, Sarah. Do NOT miss this moment. I ask you to say what must be said – That the SPEAKER must SPEAK. Sarah, you said you didn't want to be boxed in – PROVE IT. Let your actions PROVE it. Lead by example, Sarah.
syvyn11 – A Mexican "journalist" actually asked Barry when he was going to do exactly that – "overturn that law" (the Second Amendment).
And no, I am not kidding. Barry's response was to the affect that "it isn't that easy". (In the same one question presser, the AP asked about the NFL strike.) Ridiculous? Uh huh.
I agree but they said NOTHING until one of their own was killed…they didn't give a dam n about innocent civilians.
Ever heard of Marc Rich? Holder was instrumental in getting the man a pardon–What a Guy!
Charge them with accessory to murder! http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/05/congressman-oba...
charge them with accessory to murder! http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/05/congressman-oba...
When ATF members saw their own government try to hid and deny what happened to one of their own, in this case a boder patrol agent, they came to realize that if government would do that to BP employees, it would do so to ATF employees just the same. A moment of insight came to pass and long held opposition, long made opposition within the chain of command was held no longer. The whistle was blown.
And it has taken almost a year for even Fox News to hear it.
You know Chairman O lays awake at night trying to rack his imperial brain to overturn that pesky second amendment.
There is NO way that Holder knew about Fast and Furious………he was too busy trying to figure out how to drop the New Black Panther Party suit!!!!!/sarc off
Hey Mr. Speaker, just where is the Citation of Constitutional Authority for funding the Executive Branch with taxpayer money to run guns over the border to known criminal Mexican Gangs?
Remember when you said ALL BILLS would be required to be filed with those Citations? Remember, John? The ATF is funded today, huh John? SO too is DOJ, huh, John?
What's the matter, John, or shall I say "Mr. Speaker" ? Cat got your tongue?
Eric Holder is a coward. He is building a utopia in the US and made the mexican people are his sacrificial lambs. Mexico should ask the international court and sue Eric Holder and his cohorts. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
All of his plans went to file 13 when Heller was decided just after he occupied the Oval Office. He thought the Chicago Way was going to prevail in that case and running roughshod over the entire country, as is done in Illinois, would be gravy.
He went all "reasonable". That was an attempt to get 4th Amendment scrutiny, rather than 1st Amendment scrutiny. He lost, badly, when the court decided "The Second Amendment is no different [than the First].
When that happened, he had to do "something". Foe he know gun control was effectively dead at that point. GunWalker is what he did.
And it is long past time he be held to account for doing so. Barry blinked. He shot from the hip, instead of voting present while others shot from the hip. Either the entire cabinet has to fall on the sword, or he has to do so himself.
Yeah, the Clintons are going to do that for Barry, huh? Hardly. Barry is not going to make it to election day. This last ditch attempt to pin it all on Holder ain't going to work any better than the attempt to blame retail gun shops, or "botched" or not enough funding for ATF, or lack of permanent director, or or or or.
Barry is toast over GunWalker, and he knows it. I think a great many others inside the beltway know it too.
True, but look at it this way; they paid for that attitude – one of their own is gone.
It's a good lesson for everyone to remember.
And one tightening would be a demonstration of improper application.
A noose is meant to facilitate a quick snap, not a slow strangle.
It is past time for John Boehner to stop protecting Barry and his crew with his silence.
SPEAK, Mr. Speaker.
Send Holder to Gitmo!
Let the paper shredding begin!
Naw he probly called in sick that day, his supervisor migh know, yeah, you know the Liar in Chief?
Seriously, anyone who knows the sordid history of this sorry excuse for an officer of the court knows full well the beltway rebublicans who voted for his confirmation need to be voted out themselves….
Please, I want the carbine with the live rounds.
Not necessarily. Have you seen Holder's closet?
Didn't notice the shoes with all the skeletons in there.
He and Obama should all be charged with Accessory to Murder!
Send him to Yemen, declare him a domestic terrorist, and hit him with a drone.
I wonder what Roger Clemens is thinking? What the hell.
So far his only defense for the perjury charge is incompetence. So he is either a crook or he is incompetent. Either way he should be bounced from that job. If Obama fails to can Holder he is endorsing Holder's perjury which would mean he needs to be impeached.
Holder should be impeached and tried. Convicted when proven guilty in that Constitutionally prescribed arena and then charged criminally, here, with treason, upon that conviction in search of another in that domain as well.
Yes he is a coward. Yes is a criminal. But, a world court is not the answer.
We can and do prosecute our own, and that is exactly what we should do here with this.
These united States must never be subservient to any "world" body. Ever.
wldbil –
You Betcha!
I wouldn't expect much from Mexico's President Cattlecar. If you recall he used a state visit to shill for this administration in front of congress. He's almost as big a disgrace as Holder.
According to the DOJ whistleblower, Holder has a card in his wallet to remind him of what is important. It says: "Blackness is more important than anything, and the black US attorney has common cause with the black criminal." I SO HOPE he ends up being a criminal with them….
BTW, have you noticed that Holder seems to user other minorities for his purposes…not to help them.
When, may I ask, is the TALK going to stop and someone take Eric the AHoleder into custody for complicity in a murder of a border patrol agent?
Put the AHole der in the same cell as his hero, Shake Khalid Mo Ham head. Maybe the world will have a favor done and theyd both eliminate the other.
The Tampa, Fla part of this ended up with guns in the hands of the illegal alien street thiugs, MS13. That had nothing to do with drug cartels. Seems the Opig wanted the guns to go to ANYONE who was anti-american. What does THAT sound like? And HOW did the drug cartels and MS13 know about this "program"? Someone had to tell them.
Id volunteeer. After all, I fired expert every year I had to qualify in my Marine days.
It is clear that this government will side with ANY/ALL radical organization(s) or individual(s) IN ORDER TO OVERTHROW legitimate governments, including our own. This is an evil that the US has never faced internally, but communists/marxists have infiltrated our federal and state governments, churches, schools, and political organizations. If you subscribe to GBTV, there is a special Thursday about the Muslim Brotherhood. How can we fight an enemy that we don't understand? Americans had better get educated about what is going on and get active politically to protect the voting process.
That claim of "may have known" is total BS. This miserable excuse for AG, should be investigated by independent panel, and thrown out and put in prison. Then Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Durbin, Schumer, Franks, actually the whole damn lot.
Drug cartels are just gangs by another name. Just like terrorists. Just another gang.
Gang of 12? Yup, Same thing. Just a bunch of criminals grouped together.
Ummmmm….. hate to burst your bubble but these operations would have been funded while the Democrats controlled the Congress and buried so deeply that no one would have seen them.
Perhaps you should ask the same rhetorical question of Nancy Pelosi? The appropriations and launch of the op happened on her watch in the speakership.
Amen! Brother.Semper Fi.
Eric Holder is Obama’s John N. Mitchell, Attorney General under President Richard M. Nixon.
On February 21, 1975, Mitchell was found guilty of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and perjury and sentenced to two and a half to eight years in prison for his role in the Watergate break-in and cover-up, which he dubbed the White House horrors. The sentence was later reduced to one to four years by United States district court Judge John J. Sirica. Mitchell served only 19 months of his sentence, at Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, Alabama, a minimum security prison, before being released on parole for medical reasons. Tape recordings made by President Nixon and the testimony of others involved confirmed that Mitchell had participated in meetings to plan the break-in of the Democratic Party's national headquarters in the Watergate Hotel. In addition, he had met, on at least three occasions, with the president in an effort to cover up White House involvement after the burglars were discovered and arrested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_N._Mitchell#Pol...
The dissimilarity between that event and Fast and Furious is that no one died in the Watergate break-in.
Holder is a well known liar. read it for yourself….
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/279201/hol...
I truly believe that there are good decent honest ATF agents who only want what is best for America. It's these good people who will stand with the American public to do what they know is right and root out corruption such as this. That tie around Holders neck is getting awfully tight and Obama is feeling it as well.
They can't hide from the truth, it is all powerful…
Slowly but surely evidence is being pieced together to connect all the dots so there will be no way Holder can deny his part in the plot.
Obama's arrogance will lead to his demise. They are both getting sloppy with so much corruption being uncovered and so many lies being told. It's hard to remember one lie to the next!
What will take these guys down is perjuring themselves to Congress and trying to cover up their devilish deeds.
Anyone who has followed this for the last year knows that Holder knew. He bragged about it on video long ago. We also so the setup work done by Obama for the whole plot to play through. They knew because they planned it all. The evidence is there already, so why haven't we seen indictments? When are we going to close the ATF? Prohibition has been over a long time now. Tobacco and guns are legal as well, so why do we need the ATF? Another Terminal Failure.
LOL
A big enough gang war and Martial Law will be imposed. Their plan was to equip an army. An army of soulless thugs, gangbangers, addicts, dealers, malcontents of all kinds and then to set them off.
Martial law is the real game changer.
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