Fiscal Death by Welfare
by Andrew MellonIronically enough, the medicine applied by our state as the antidote for our ills has proven to be poison. The welfare state is killing our nation. Today entitlement spending makes up nearly half of our budget. Long term, we know that there will be no way to pay off our unfunded obligations — we will go bankrupt. There will be three options ultimately, though ultimately can come quite suddenly: default, hyperinflation or abolition of the welfare state.

Default is considered by many to be an impossible option as it would likely lead to mass chaos given the necessary suspension of many government services, not to mention the practical reality that WE are the collateral in the event of default. To default is to be honest, and to be honest is anathema to the state.
Hyperinflation in my view is the most likely outcome given the massive increase in the money supply, which is good for politicians until it hits because it allows them to kick problems down the road and impose a stealth tax. Currently, government is toeing the line between monetizing debt and intervening to keep its borrowing rates down, while incentivizing banks to keep money in their vaults or pump it into the stock market.
I believe that as the downturn goes on the government will blame the banks for the lack of economic growth and force them to allocate credit to chosen political entrepreneurs and other bad credit risks, leading to massive inflation in prices which they will likely blame on evil speculators and greedy price gouging companies. Hyperinflation would allow the government to pay for the welfare state – by writing entitlement checks in worthless dollars and lead to economic paralysis as constantly rising prices would make economic calculation and thus commerce impossible.
The final option would lead to the crucifixion of politicians. Of course, this might not be such a bad thing. All joking aside, there is a reason that entitlement spending is categorized as “mandatory” spending in our budget. It is wrongfully viewed as an essential function of a civilized western nation, and its end would be met with a serious backlash from all of the welfare state’s recipients.
Yet while default is the most honest option, hyperinflation the most likely and abolition the most untenable, in my view it is the third option which is the inevitable end, regardless of the path we choose, with the only question being whether we take our lumps now or at some unknown and jarring point in the future.
But it never had to be this way. Back in February of 1887, Texan farmers were struggling as a severe drought was killing their crops. Congress was looking to pass an appropriations bill to bail out the ailing farmers. President Grover Cleveland had the following to say on the matter:
Though there has been some difference in statements concerning the extent of the people’s needs in the localities thus affected, there seems to be no doubt that there has existed a condition calling for relief; and I am willing to believe that, notwithstanding the aid already furnished, a donation of seed grain to the farmers located in this region, to enable them to put in new crops, would serve to avert a continuance or return of an unfortunate blight.
And yet I feel obliged to withhold my approval of the plan as proposed by this bill, to indulge a benevolent and charitable sentiment through the appropriation of public funds for that purpose.
I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. A prevalent tendency to disregard the limited mission of this power and duty should, I think, be steadfastly resisted, to the end that the lesson should be constantly enforced that, though the people support the government, the government should not support the people.
The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow citizens in misfortune…Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood.
Unfortunately, as we well know future politicians failed to heed these words. Due in large part to the New Deal and Great Society legislation, post-Lochner era court decisions and ideological subversion of the left in media and academia, the state became the paternalistic figure that it is today. The welfare state imposed on the people the notion that we were morally required through the force of government to help out our fellow man, an inherently immoral argument. In so doing, the state became the institution of moral hazard.
By providing aid to untapped politically lucrative constituencies for many of life’s woes, the state altered the character of the American people. When before, life was based on self-reliance, innovation and entrepreneurship, today a wide swath of American life is based on dependency, complacency and politics, an ironic assertion in that we built our wealth that funded the welfare state on the very foundations that the welfare state undermines. George Will outlined this transformation eloquently in his CPAC speech.
The demoralizing nature of the welfare state in absolving people from making decisions on matters of health, career and retirement in altering our character necessarily altered our actions, the sum of which make up our economy. By taking long term planning out of the hands of people, the welfare state led us to increase our time preferences. Time preference refers to our relative short term or long term orientation. When we prepare for the long term, we make prudent decisions such as saving more and borrowing and spending less, in expectation of reaping greater rewards down the road. On the other hand, when government taxes, reducing returns on capital and removes the need for cogent planning, we become more short term oriented, valuing more highly instant gratification achieved through spending and borrowing more to consume today. High time preferences result in low capital formation, high real interest rates and diminished prosperity.
It should be noted that politicians are not immune to time preferences. Since politicians are concerned most with getting re-elected, and the state came to be seen as the mechanism for spreading the wealth around to various voting blocs, naturally there grew a conflagration of welfare programs (using the term welfare loosely) funded through direct taxation, inflation and debt with little regard for the future.
The psychological and concomitant economic effects of the redistributive state cannot be understated. What has been consistently understated is what the world would look like without the welfare state. If we were to abolish Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, billions of dollars would return to the hands of the people. People would have to plan their lives more carefully and responsibly and redevelop the drive that had been taken from them by the state, and they would allocate these new funds accordingly. This influx of new cash to be reallocated according to the preferences of consumers would lead to unimagined innovations.
How many new hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and insurers would crop up? How many more dollars would people save for retirement and in so doing invest in the private sector? How many charitable organizations would be created for people to voluntarily help their fellow man? How many government bureaucrats would be unleashed into the economy and employed in productive jobs? How many productive jobs would the private sector create? How many people would pick themselves up out of poverty? One fascinating anecdotal example of the types of innovations that occurred when the government did not coddle people from cradle to grave was the institution of the fraternal society, one of the functions of which was healthcare provision under “lodge practice,” whereby society members could voluntarily pool their money and draw upon it when in need of medical care. Prices were low and service was of quality until government intervened and destroyed the practice.
Now surely, as a practical matter the scrapping of the welfare state would cause great disruption, and people expecting to receive and/or reliant on benefits would incur immediate hardships. But with the infusion of capital back into the hands of private individuals making decisions for themselves, in the long run our standard of living would increase, our competitive advantage in the world would widen and we would restore the national character to which Cleveland spoke. We would reverse the demoralization and economic stagnation induced by the state. We would see the bountiful unseen benefits blocked by the massive edifice of the state that holds our people back. It bears remembering that we didn’t grow wealthy with a safety net under us in the first place.
Our society was built on the non-aggression principle. Individuals should be free to pursue purposeful ends so long as they do not harm others. Government’s role is to protect us from external harm by providing defense, public safety and the courts. By government attempting to protect us from the harm of our own decisions, imposing morality on the people through forcing some to subsidize others, government becomes an immoral, socially and economically destructive institution and perpetuates a cycle of intervention, dependency, crisis and further intervention.
As the healthcare debate rages on, and in context of the reality on the ground today, it surely seems as if we are miles from the end of the welfare state. But indeed, we are going to arrive at the end of the experiment of the Ponzi welfare scheme, and it will not be by government fiat but by gravity. This will be a blessing in disguise, though the short term pain of a sudden collapse will be great. Traumatic as the collapse of the welfare state will be for those reliant on it, collapse will go quite a ways towards restoring power back with its rightful owners, the people.






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Parasitical organisms must always live off their host organisms, until they have drained them of blood. Then they move on to the next host, for the next free lunch, and free ride…………
The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the publics money.
"Reagan proved deficits don't matter"
— DICK CHENEY
Quote: "Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the head of the International Monetary Fund, suggested Friday the organization might one day be called on to provide countries with a global reserve currency that would serve as an alternative to the U.S. dollar.'
Won't that be nice? That is exactly how the the British empire fell from power when the 'pound' lost status… "
Doesn't the Bible mention things like that?
Excellent post, Mr.Mellon.This is Truth, and it hurts.Just how disconnected from reality are our politicians?This article shows, quite succinctly, how far in the stratosphere the pols are today. Engorged with their own self-importance, these pompous fools have taken our great nation from the heights of greatness to the shallows of despair, accelerating the course exponentially in just a couple of generations.None dare call it Treason? I do.
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None dare call it Treason?
Sorta reminds me of a book I read a long time ago…
Can we say Cloward-Piven?
Welfare is the extension of slavery which is acceptable to the lazy and irresponsible for generations. If you are a welfare recipient; then this indictment is for you. You have no honor.
I think its all part of the progressive design. To change us they must first break us. Share the weath…let all the illegal immigrants in who can receive benefits without paying taxes. Create countless useless entitlement programs to "help them" (the poor and lazy) and of course share some kool aid. Normal hard working Americans don't believe in entitlement and the progressives know that so.. they buy the votes and support of the poor and lazy and import others who will do anything to get out of there own country.
Your whining might have more legitimacy if you prioritized your focus a bit. "Welfare" on Americans is more justified than welfare on foreigners – particularly violent, terrorist foreigners who have attacked us and make enemies for us by supporting them: Israel.
Excellent and very, very honest piece. It's a shame FDR was right when he said that no damned politician would ever get rid of his social programs. The people are too damned used to the government handout right now. There are too many out there that would only lift a finger to keep the checks coming – and then sit right back down on their sorry, lazy butts.
New York cops get a pension of 80 % of their last year of service salary so what they do is buy up overtime from other officers to run up thier last year salary to 120 % of normal and then after 20 years retire collecting 100 % salary for the next 30 years plus their Social Security and none of this money has been set aside and all must be pulled from that states annual revenue.
It just cannot work the numbers just do not add up and something must be done to end this.
Unemployment compensation has to be adding to this right now.
I suppose the recession in general.
It would be great to have a time table,but I suppose the best thing is to buy what you need now
without going into debt.
Well said, errh, well cited! ;^) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
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The welfare state cannot exist without the creation of an authoritarian government structure which forcibly takes the funds from one to give to another.
After that, it's just a matter of degree – in how much is taken from the "haves," and how much force is used in the taking.
When either, or both, become too burdensome, the "haves" can fight back. What happens WHEN that comes to our society? And make no mistake – it will come.
Cheney said that in a political context. (See http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/22/magazines/fortune...
Obama is doing worse as I don't think he even cares about the deficit. So what is your point? That the welfare state is good? You should be complaining about the Liberals (in both parties.)
Good point, and of course that's not sustainable, and the system would fail. The "haves" will simply stop the"doing".
It always ends when the "haves" have no more or corrective action is taken.
I agree. The aristocrats of DC need to be flooded with sheep dip, dried and sheared. From that, we can make new flags from wool, sweaters for cold weather and provide the masses with mutton for the stew.
That is my favorite option by far
Excellent. I agree with you 100%. And I thought I was the only one having these kinds of thoughts.
Once a people accept the notion that failure should be rewarded, it was all over.
To quote Rush Limbaugh, we are speaking truth to welfare.
Hey Obama – you wanna see fundamental transformation – The Tea Party Movement is gonna create a Revolution against the big government monster your ilk feeds off and they'll return America back to First Principles.
The free ride is over for you parasites!
Preventing the insolvency of the socialist welfare entitlement state has been the goal of every administration for a very long time, and crafty politicians have been inventing ways to forestall the event. After all, no politician wants to be the one who presides over that.
This, I believe, is the prime motivation for "comprehensive health care reform," with its four years of benefit free tax increases and medicare cuts used to prop up social security, as well as the cap and tax green agenda which is designed to extract more money from every American in order to move the eventual collapse of the welfare state beyond 2012.
Typical troll, doesn't understand context. Reagan's debt was spent towards the defusing of GLOBAL NUCLEAR DESTRUCTION. If you are alive today, I think you owe the man and his "deficit" a debt of gratitude. Also, take into context that his spending, per GDP is still a pale shadow compared to the debt burden created my the current admin in it's first year.
In the spirit of context, what is it that the Dem's are spending the money on?
Funding to congressional districts that don't exist,
Raising the unemployment rate to levels not seen in decades,
Enough pork to scare Allah himself,
Housing rebates that haven't stimulated the housing market,
Vehicle rebates that haven't stimulated the automotive market,
Forceful takeover of private sector companies (GM, Chrysler, banks) and firing their CEO's (where's that in the constitution again?)
Shoving a health-INSURANCE bill down the throats of people, who's mouths are only wide open from screaming "NO! WE DON'T WANT THIS!!!"
Ok….i'm done for now…
The nine scariest words anyone can hear are: "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help"
-Ronald Reagan
Reagan compromised with a democratic congress too. That was his nature, he was a pragmatist. So he took what he could by doing tax cuts but giving the Dems something. Given a choice he would have eliminated the deficit. But you're also correct that there was a cold war to fight which was important.
but they need anohter $93,000 for petty cash !!!! WTF ?????
What is wrong with them? This is not the hope and change I voted for !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNRt9R7S8aM
Ahhh…here’s one of the parasites now!
Thanks for finally calling it what it really is, WELFARE! The 800lb guerilla in the room at the summit are politicians don't dare mention.
Get ready for the great recession of 2012 & the final defeat of Liberal Progressivism.
ahahahahaah all your cons .. fell for the republican line.. they got you convinced that ALL our tax $$'s are spent on people who sit around drinking beer and not working – collecting welfare….
the fact is if congress started to cut all that YOU think is "welfare".. so many of you would jump up and say "hey not that one"… then on the other hand you are happy with 13 aircraft carrier groups and corporate american paying them selves HUGE bonuses… if my country is going to pay for anything. .I want it to pay for what the people need not what corporate america needs
we need to cut ALL the fat
this is NOT a left/right issue.. it is US against them…..
no palin.. no obama.. no cheney
That’s what stimulus (porkulus) was all about TARP, healthcare, and on and on. These bastard politicians have over promised, and now, “America’s chickens…have come home to roost!” Stand back America the parasite class with devour itself. It’s time to say, “NO!”
I work in the welfare state. I can promise you that welfare has killed more people than poverty ever did. It has helped NO ONE. And at what staggering cost. Look at the crime rate, the incarceration rates, the miscarriage rate, the life expectancy among welfare recipients. It's a staggering travesty and our tax dollars are paying for this death.
Presidents don't pass spending bills, Congresses do. The DemocratSS declared Reagan's budgets "Dead on arrival" because they didn't spend enough. They would juice them up with PORK and a handcuffed Reagan – trying to his agenda done – would sign them. Tip O'Neill SPENT the MONEY. Look it up.
Muslims would still be honor bound to attack and kill us as infidels no matter what are position is to Israel.
Wake up.
toconn – March 1st, 2010 at 1:18 am
“Reagan proved deficits don’t matter”
— DICK CHENEY
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Hey “toconn”, obviously Chenny never could have imagined that a Progressive scumbag like Obama would come along and run up a deficit in one year that exceeded all of the deficit spending of every President in the history of this country combined. When you spend that kind of money to the welfare left and unions then deficits DO MATTER!
Nonsense.
Hey "toconn", obviously Chenny never could have imagined that a Progressive scumbag like Obama would come along and run up a deficit in one year that exceeded all of the deficit spending of every President in the history of this country combined. When you spend that kind of money to the welfare left and unions then deficits DO MATTER!
Nice retort. How about:
Try reading the Qu'ran, the Hadith, and the suna, and get back to on that, will ya?
kthxbye.
Exactly!!
and add, Prez. L.B. Johnson.
Marko, you're 100% right, and did you notice they didn't mention
illegal immigrants either…I would like to know just how much they
are costing us, not only in healthcare but other welfare programs?
The Marxist in Chief must be awfully proud to see this happening.
Probably has a thrill go down his leg everytime he thinks about it.
We should be inundating our Senators and Congressmen with
e-mails, letters, phone calls, about this healthcare takeover…
Time to put on the pressure…With all the people out of work, and
not paying taxes, there will be a shortfall…there's no way they'll be
able to pay for the programs they have without adding this piece
of crap…..
Great point. I know of cops here in Vegas retiring at age 55 with 100k+ incomes guaranteed for life…….. not to mention a six figure check for their unused sick days. Plus, of course, health insurance.
I know…. I know!…… they protect our communities and risk their lives…. and if wasn't for them…………
But really???!!!! 100k+ for life starting at 55??
The money just isn't there folks.
Math is a bitch. She doesn't lie just to protect your feelings
Congrats' America Your entiteded To It!
All Your Entitede Are Us
It's About time
Is that some sort of Cannuckistan code? Do we need a secret de-coder ring to decipher the meaning?
Randy ist ein Schrank Nazi-Sympathisant und Antisemit -ya? Seig Heil Randy – Sieg Heil Obama!
Here – maybe you prefer to read in Obama's native language:
راندي هي اقرب متعاطف مع النازية ومعاد للسامية
????
All your base are belong to US???
“I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.” — Q’uran, Surah 8:12
Socialism is a fraud. Keynesian economics is a fraud.
Socialism lets politicians lie to gullible people, telling them what they want to hear, which is that they can get something for nothing. Keynesianism lets the politicians print unlimited amounts of money to pay for the promises. But when the promises come due, there will be a reckoning and it is coming.
In times of financial collapse and turmoil, civil society may break down. It is at that time that our civil society is weakest and may either devolve towards dictatorship, under the guise of keeping civil order, or civil society will recover and reboot itself. We need to be prepared for that time.
It does not bode well, or give any comfort, to know that the Federal government is hurriedly trying to make us give up our liberty in advance of that time.
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Yes. Of course. It's those damn Jews again……
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Please try spelling the word differently, searching another resource, or typing a new word, or disregard comments by Canada.
I'm not sure, but I think it's Turkish. I knew Europe was becoming Eurabia but I didn't think Canada was that bad. It looks like we need to seal BOTH borders!
Try opening up the Talmud. Jews think they can kill Christians at will.
So, Muslims just picked us out on the map and decided to hate us? Why not Mexico?
Nothing worth having ever comes easy.
Frankie – sober up…get out of the glue cabinet. You are a typical SOCIALIST….the truth IS our taxes are spent on 300 pounders on welfare …they are too well fed by the food stamp AND ALL OTHER WELFARE PROGRAMS…too many to mention here..all of which are supported by the citizens who get up every single day and WORK FOR A LIVING in those big bad Corporations…. Those same 300 pounders are flooding the Emergency rooms and the system can no longer carry their free HEALTH AND DENTAL CARE. So Frankie, since you have so much time on your hands, why dont you get off your recliner and go do some volunteer work at your local EMERGENCY ROOM….just make an effort to put your free money where your mouth is instead of just letting your belly rumble. And since you know so much about big fat bonuses …why dont you check out the UNION BUMS bonuses . And newsflash Frankie..your country is NOT PAYING FOR WELFARE……THE HARD WORKING CITIZEN TAXPAYER IS…but what would you know about paying taxes…newsflash FRANKIE…WE'RE MAD AS HELL AND WE WONT TAKE IT ANY MORE. Maggie Thatcher said it best…EVENTUALLY YOU RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY….WELL THAT TIME HAS COME….2012 cant come soon enough.
BO is trying to bankrupt America!
Hurry November and 2012, we’re voting these bums out and taking back America!
Bingo!
An essay laying it all out from David Horowitz's, Discover the Networks.
Little flaw in your screed there – Mein Fuhrer, Jews aren't strapping bombs to their chests and attacking Christians, Muslims are, as well as burning down Christian churches and businesses in Egypt and elsewhere. Then there's the whole rocket and mortor attacks in Israel…
Muslims sided with and fought side by side with the Nazis in WWII. They were, and are philisophical soul mates.
The aggression employed by Islam against the Jews is ancient, the aggression they're showing to the West is an extension of medieval Christianity v. Islam disputes.
They are incideous, they will continue to spread the tenticles of their sick blood cult death machine, the will fight Christianity and Judaism until the death.
We will be forced by them to kill them and render Islam dead.
It may take 100 years, but it will be done. Count on it.
Mr. Mellon.
With all due respect give a time line or time table when you say "Hyperinflation in my view is the most likely outcome given the massive increase in the money supply, which is good for politicians until it hits because it allows them to kick problems down the road and impose a stealth tax."
One year? Two years? Three years?
You're not speaking about the crux of the crisis. And that is fatal. CREDIT my friend is contracting and is in a tailspin. Those that want it can't get it. Those that can get don't want it.
How on Gods great green earth is that inflationary in the near term? Are you suggesting that house prices have to rise to unleash pent up credit? Hyperinflation is a wet dream for the Fed. Gold bugs are going to take some heat. Which ones can hold on and not be forced to sell time will only tell.
This analysis is not only counterproductive to BIGs readers but it almost galvanizes their beliefs. NOTHING will reverse the credit contraction with current prices. It will be a huge lower price tailspin that precedes the availability of fresh new credit. Ergo reduce the risk and let the new games begin.
But at that juncture you will find an American psyche so wounded by the carnage that only the brave souls will step up to the plate and seize opportunity. And that is how fortunes are made. Be prepared to act and not react. And based on the what I see as prevalent few will be in a position to act. The masses will be scared chitless.
What's wrong Randall, you should be able to thumb through "Islamic/Nazi Terrorist Propaganda for Dummies" faster than that.
Try page 157 – "Internet Nazism and me – a guide to self actualization"
or p.201 "Blaming Jews – not just for Euro-trash Jew haters anymore."
Respectfully Sir think again. See below.
If you want to really understand all that needs to be changed. Just look here at what the last Congress did (110th.) With an avg of 170 days in session they enacted 460 Laws >> http://tinyurl.com/yhmlezg
Most of the laws had to do with funding/creating entitlements and monuments to cronies. We have a long way to go to correct ourselves.
Based on the 1980's situation from boom to bust to inflation, you should be seeing it now – increase costs in food. But the hyper-inflation will come when the US starts to service their debts which is said to be the last quarter of this year. At that time the Fed, to get more money from the banks to service debt, with begin increasing their interest rates. In 1980 interest rates from the Feds were 22%, this time it will be much higher.
There is speculation about the Left willing to accept losses in November as a tradeoff for a large increase in control via the health care bill, to be used for continuing transformation of American society. I don't know of any bureacracies that were ever eliminated, scaled back, or even checked in size. They only grow in size, cost, intrusiveness and inefficiency. Getting perpetual bureacratic control over 1/6th of the economy would be a big prize for Leftists, worth short-term losses.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/02/025...
Farmers who receive subsidies for idle ground will simply put the ground back into production. As for the crop insurance that the government underwrites, it will be replaced by other private programs. And get the darn government out of the commodities & subsidizing the ethanol plants & let us put the corn fields back into producing food for people. Us family farmers will gladly take the first hit – we are tired of playing the government games…. I'm sure those on the welfare rolls will step-up next….
Nothing punk? You working the late,late shift at "Adolph's Uniform Shop and Leather & Studs Bar"?
Cowardly liberal, shaking like an amped up 2 1/2 lb. Chihuahua.
Pat at ADM (Archer Daniels Midland) scored some big $$ with the ethanol plants.
Well written, Mr. Mellon.
"The final option would lead to the crucifixion of politicians."
I favor the final option. Although painful, it does offer full relief, in the end.
Reagans deficits defeated the soviet union and gave clinton the peace dividend to claim as his fiscal success.
Yep! ;^) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
"I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." – Winston Churchill
"When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." – Benjamin Franklin
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." – Thomas Jefferson
“Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” – Ronald Reagan
“Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.” – Ronald Reagan
Thus, paving the way for the bankruptcy of America!
On a site that's full of excellent posts, Mr. Mellon's writings the past few weeks provide the clearest warnings of a perfect storm dead ahead, how it formed, and some idea of painful choices to be faced.. We Americans sometimes pat ourselves on the back about extreme hardships overcome by previous generations, forgetting the genuine and lasting pain involved, and imagining it immunizes us from any real pain of our own.Unfortunately, we're likely to experience a historic crisis firstthand. And it it wil be largely inflicted from within.
Some Democrats argue they just need to push their stinking carcass of a health-care bill over the hump to get it passed by any means, and Americans will learn to like it. This sounds like some crack dealer who wants to pin down a recovering addict and shoot them up in the arm, figuring once that addictve dependency is injected forcefully, they'll have a lifelong customer. It may mean ruin for the victim, but keeps the money and power flowing to the pushers, BHO, Pelosi, Reid & crew.
The collapse of Greece, & the potential of the same for Ireland & other western European countries will bring about the fall of the EU. The U.K. will double-dip into recession followed by the U.S., Japan & China. We are witnessing the final cut w/all ties to 20th century policy. The short term result will be difficult to say the least as those who've become addicted to government-imposed dependency start waking up to the real world without their fix. This will be the evil outcome the political "Left" (of both parties) has imposed; FDR's legacy. But the long term runout will be a much better place & uniquely 21st century as Americans again learn to be self-reliant & neighbor-helping neighbor becomes the new norm.
When we have card carrying socialists in our government, no one complains, people elect these people.
This seems to me these are the free loaders of society, these are the people who want more.
60 plus congress people are Democratic Socialist.
Until the people of the nation become independent thinkers, and become informed, the DemoRats will destroy our great Nation.
It will take generations to try to undo what this administration has done, if ever.
And the rose colored glasses approach that future growth will bring in more revenues, I'll work twice as hard in the future knowing that my hard work will be transfered by the likes of Nanny Pelosi to those she deems worthy, by sacrificing my labor for the greater good I will get that euphoric feeling of being a good commie.
if you require feeding,the requirement is to trade something for the food. we will help those in need,but we require the needy to be grateful and offer their labor as repayment.not able to work outside the home? then you will provide child care for the ones that can.the same drug testing required of the workers will be required of the needy.don`t want to do that? you are shut off from all aid. If that drives you to crime, then you most likely will be killed by a citizen in commission of your crime. the result? one less leech, one less thief,one less producer of children that require us to feed ,house, and medicate them cradle to grave.
no virgins there.
just because a child is born to a welfare recipient dosent mean the child will be a social parasite, the child could become a great inventor, or find a cure for cancer. Your point could lead to a slippery slope towards acceptance of abortion.
"less govt. is more freedom, more govt. is less freedom" Thomas Jefferson…bullseye!
I'm goin to Disneyland!
I've always thought the true underlying issue with health care was to kick the entitlement program crash further down the road. We should start reversing this now by cleaning out the illegals off the welfare roles, then move to married couples (potential double income earners), and then start raising the income base line lower and lower to be elligible for any type of public assistance until soon if you make more than $1000 a year you won't get public assistance. And if you can walk, talk, and breath – you can work and if you can work, you don't need public assistance. Spend your time working instead of standing in the welfare line to get some of Obama's "stash".
In my travels many years ago,there used to be a large billboard outside of Chicago – "If you can`t feed `em, don`t breed `em" .the path to restoring this great country will not be a walk in the park, it will be a walk up a rocky mountain – once there the view will be worth the effort.
It's called 'mordidas', the death of a thousand cuts.
We have too many illegal immigrants, AND too many recent "legal" immigrants we unwisely allowed into the country that have become a burden to society. They need to go.
Bullsh!t.
Ask the Spaniards how kissing Muslim ass helped them. Ask the Brits – Islamland N.W. how sheltering Muslims and paving the way for Sharia Law has worked out for them?
BOTH were BOMBED and are continually threatened.
Sell NAZI somewhere else – we're already have our quota of resident Nazis.
Are you a Muslim/Nazi or a white "progressive/liberal" Nazi?
"Fonz" – is that you? New name and e-mail address?
Unfortunately govt. policys financially encourage women to have children out of wedlock, and all in the name of compassion. But when it comes to abortion I am 100% against it, once a baby is concieved I believe they have a right to life.
There are tens of thousands of previously productive US citizens who where slam dunked out of work due to the effectivily overnight crash of real estate and home construction. I am one of them. For you to say that I have no honor , well those are fightin' words you jerk.
Sorry, you twit: we only have 11 carrier groups now, fewer than the 12 we need- and we'll lose another when Enterprise is decommissioned in 2014.
No, it doesn't.
Here's the scary thing: When we become victims of hyperinflation, our creditors (ChiComs, primarily) won't be in the least concerned about the U.S. population's suffering. They will (correctly) accuse our government of trying to monetize our debt to THEM.
At that point, the U.S. government will have many enemies: Foreign creditors, American welfare recipients whose payments don't go very far due to inflation; and, productive American citizens who did nothing to cause the horrific suffering, yet are forced to see it and become part of it.
We will then make a national decision about foreign creditors: Do we continue trying to pay them with worthless dollars? Or perhaps we could try to erase the debt with a big ol' war? After all, if we kick China's collective ass, they'd be in no condition to demand payment for past investments they made in us.
This is not unrealistic. Certainly, it shows criminal intent on the part of our government, but, when the progressives are in power, that's hardly remarkable.
[...] Fiscal Death By Welfare [...]
I see no real end to the welfare state. In fact, it is probably more true that the vision concerning monetary ends for the citizenry according to the Socialist visionaries is a society where there are no wages, but credit. You would work, do your job, and have an allotment of resources that you can access. Products would be government controlled, and therefore equal in quality, so excessive consumption would be, theoretically, phased out. For instance, think, no exotic sports cars, because there would only need to be so many models for certain demographics necessary to produce in a One-Minded homogenized society. Obviously, sports cars are not a necessity. All that is needed in this particular scenario is for an exotic car company to fail, become owned by the government, and have it decided that the best interest of the company is to be absorbed by a general car manufacturer where, from that point, the exotic car companies goals and aspirations for future models is also absorbed. Ahhh, there is so much to consider, but it really is similar to 1984. Healthcare definitely is a major first step in building this new world. Mind, it isn't begun with welfare – that was tearing down the old. I see it starting with healthcare, because society turns on food, and health is primarily about consumption. So, it isn't about controlling money really, but controlling actual needs. Needs are subconscious, and logical. There is a lot to consider…
They have attacked Christians in the occupied territories. They spit on Christians in Israel.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?it...
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