Our Time for Choosing
by Andrew MellonYou and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We’ll preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we’ll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness.
Ronald Reagan spoke these words some forty-six years ago in his famous “A Time for Choosing” speech. Tragically, today in America it appears the time for choosing is fast passing. As each day goes by our debt grows more untenable; our security more imperiled; our economy more shackled; our government more tyrannical.
These are symptoms of an America that has chosen the wrong path. We lost our way on the road to civilization, veering onto the road to serfdom. Our plight is the result of a hundred-plus year campaign by the socialist sophists to slowly but surely undermine the bedrock principles on which we had built our strength.
While the ends of a nation are peace, prosperity and culture, from our founding there was a dichotomy of opinion as to how best to achieve these ends. It was not merely a matter of state versus federal or small versus big government. Rather, at its core the split rested and continues to rest upon embracing liberty or embracing tyranny.
As the underappreciated French Political Economist Frédéric Bastiat argued, “The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else.” James Madison in an equally cynical but less damning statement asserted,
If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.
Put another way, the great challenge of government is that while in forming it we grant man privileges to protect our natural rights, it proves difficult enough for man to govern himself let alone others. Thus, in devising a governmental system, our founders set up a Constitution of diffuse powers confined to explicit spheres. This was to ensure that the majority of power rested with the states or the people.
As our country aged, the state increasingly stripped us of our rights instead of securing them. Government grew whilst the individual shrunk. Whereas the law was meant to protect against the diminution of man, instead it was used as an instrument to plunder him. As Bastiat shrewdly posited in The Law back in 1848,
..legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole — with their common aim of legal plunder — constitute socialism.
If only this message had resonated.
We lovers of liberty allowed for the planting of these seeds of our destruction. We have always had the better ideas, but too often failed to adequately defend them. Our ideological counterparts, realizing that they could not win on substance propagandized through academia and the media, and co-opted the poorest and the richest in their lust to undermine our rights for their personal gain.
Anecdotally, we can see a clear difference in the logical ends of the policies the statists espouse. It is instructive to look at the experience of those in East and West Germany before the fall of the Berlin Wall (well-documented on pages 33-37 here). Similarly, if we compare and contrast the liberal urban areas in America with the more conservative suburban ones, in many instances we see a clear difference in wealth, safety and overall quality of life, which is incidentally ironic given that it is often the suburban areas that subsidize their urban neighbors. Yet even with this stark difference in results, somehow we have succumbed to the path to barbarism.
Perhaps one of the reasons for our loss in the war of ideas is that while the battle lines are clear, we have not sufficiently articulated the virtues of our side. The following questions are exemplary of our divide, and were Americans to consider their implications in context of our political system, I believe support for the left would wither. Do Americans believe in private self-reliance or public largess? Do we believe in meritocracy or thugocracy? Do we reward success or failure? Do we stand upright or bow to the world? Do we wish to return America to fiscal order, or condemn future generations to debt slavery? Do we believe that solutions come through the ingenuity and toil of the American people, or from faceless bureaucrats in Washington? Do we wish to be the shining beacon of civilization, or a mere footnote in a history book? Do we believe in the individual, innovation, morality and the spontaneous and organic harmony of freedom or the collective, backward, perverted morality and destitution of centrally planned servitude?
The people of this nation know that the progress of man has always come from the individual, free to question, experiment and fail. In fact, it is often out of failure that opportunity arises. Our nation was built on principles the founders gleaned from their studies of the failures of their predecessors. They understood that powerful centralized government could never advance man, but only restrain him. They understood that the sole purpose of government was to protect man from the tyranny of others and that of government itself. This was to be achieved by building a foundation based on property rights and the rule of law, a foundation that would allow man to flourish. Sadly, generation after generation, we have allowed our government to usurp more and more of our freedom — to steal from us the life, liberty and property that make us people. In our quiescence, we have given politicians sanction to weaken our constitution and dehumanize us.
But just as failures created the conditions for the founders to build this nation, so too have failures created an opportunity for us to refound it. Today we have a populace galvanized against our largely corrupt stewards. We must avail ourselves of this opportunity to educate a captive audience on history, on principles and on the ideals that we have allowed to grow decadent. In the meantime in trying to roll back years of ideological subversion that have numbed Americans to truth and morality, we must elect officials who will stop government from expanding. Then, we must go to work in stripping it back to the bare bones ascribed to it in our Constitution.
In order to achieve this monumental task, we will need to seek out candidates who are unafraid of the censorship that is political correctness; who understand that the state is always to be subservient to the individual; who are willing to abide by principle even if it means political pain. In other words, we will have to find patriots who stand to gain little from serving in government, the very people who have traditionally avoided serving in it.
This battle will take many, many years, and there is no guarantee of success. But difficult as the struggle may be, appeasement and the middle path will surely lead to failure. Reagan understood this when it came to the Cold War. He argued,
every lesson of history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face—that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight or surrender. If we continue to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, eventually we have to face the final demand—the ultimatum.
Reagan further noted as to a policy of appeasement that, “You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery.” One might add that chains and slavery will never lead to a dear life or sweet peace.
We must fight another war against our ostensibly well-meaning liberal friends, a war on ideological grounds in the political arena. We must express to all those who cherish this country that nothing less than our existence rests upon our fight against the tyranny of our democracy. Our state is a Leviathan, hurtling towards fiscal and moral bankruptcy and war. History will either remember us as the generation that twiddled our fingers while Rome burned, or the underdogs who overcame great evil to return this nation to its rightful place as a shining city on a hill.
We may lie very close to the precipice today, but it is still our duty to make the proper choice. We must choose to fight the fight for civilization or risk dishonoring our founders, enslaving our children and debauching our once great nation. If we choose rightly, we will either save our country from impending collapse or build a contingent strong enough to rise from its ashes. In a world being terrorized by the twin tentacles of socialism and Islamism, we still remain the last best hope of man on Earth.






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Obama wishes he could communicate and give a speech like Reagan
A great call to return to the principles of the Constitution, and the type of government envisioned by our founding fathers. The main argument resembles the thinking of Sam Adams when he wrote; "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." We have got to start at a point, and I would suggest that it start with our families. Educating our families on the true meaning of limited government, and the values and meaning of meritocracy and liberty. Then we go out in the community, find representatives that actually represent their constituents and understand the limits imposed on government by the Constitution.
Andrew Mellon
Thank you for this article.
Stop the prohibitions! Stop the theft of hard earned property! Stop the redistributions!
Obama is a marxist
President Ronald Reagan was right when he said “Now, so there will be no misunderstanding. It’s not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work — work with us, not over us; to stand by our side, not ride on our back.” Mr. Reagan spoke these words at his inaugural on January 20, 1980. At that moment in time our country was driven to a precipice via a myriad of misguided policies, but it was President Carter, and his band of liberal Democrats that took the final steps off the ledge. Mr. Reagan caught us safely from the fall through inner-strength, after he survived an assassination attempt, and then brought to bear his uncommon display of common sense on our nations past economic calamity. President Reagan successfully led the country through the last battle in the cold war, renewed our national purpose, and provided leadership to a nation in dire need of it.
This article says it all, thank you Mr. Mellon. I have two favorite quotes: " A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have." (TJ) This quote from the artist Edward Langley is my number one favorite: " What this country needs is more UNEMPLOYED politicians."
There is much to be done. We’ve allowed our country to slip perilously close to collapse…a self inflicted wound. “We the People,” are wide awake now, and must remain so for several election cycles, fearlessly pushing back on the statist, and again make it a shameful, to be a ward of the state. This is the greatest country since the dawning of civilization, and if you’re an able bodied person and a failure in America, it’s a personal choice.
hes a Marxiccist
"One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine." – Ronald Reagan
"Rendezvous with destiny"? That was FDR. "Last best hope of man on Earth"? That was Lincoln. It says a LOT about you people that you would make a virtual god out of a Plagiarist. Ronald Reagan sure could give a good speech, couldn't he? But it seems to me that's the same thing you people sneer at Obama about.
Great article, Mr. Mellon. This is the message that needs to be kept in front of the American people every day from now until the end of time. The fact that it has not is largely the cause of our current miseries.
In 'A Time For Choosing,' President Reagan used a phrase from one of the speeches of the first Republican president. Here is the earlier quote :
“In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free — honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last, best hope of earth.”
~~ Abraham Lincoln, in his Annual Message to Congress (1 December 1862)
Back that up jack. Find one of my comments sneering at Obamas speechmaking.
I detest the mans policies, I detest his lies, I detest his heavy handed governing, I detest his Marxist beliefs, I detest his outright intent to remake this country by tyrannical methods into something the founders never wanted and the constitution disallows.
So what exactly is your point, if there is one, other than to sneer at us.
"…the inherent and eternal goodness of the human person".
You've GOT to be kidding me, right? I think I'M gonna be sick! Man is born a Creation of Fallen Nature. We are born physically alive but spiritually dead. But that a man be born again, there is no claim to goodness. We are all born into sin and there is nothing "inherently" good about any of us in our own right.
This is exactly the kind of pap that the progressive socialists want you to believe. You have either fallen for the lie or you are one of them. Either way, I'm not buying in to your "rainbows and lollipops" philosophy. There is no utopia to be found or made on this planet by Man. What you call education, I call propaganda.
Brings to mind "the long defeat" from Lord of the Rings. The prime battleground is the local public school and local community. Hearts and minds.
So you believe that FDR and Lincoln were the very first ones to use that particular wording? It shows how venial you are and nothing about Ronald Reagan. It is not what words he said but more about how he was able to articulate what he believed. If he used words from Presidents he admired then so much the better.
Sadly, most won't realize this. They won't realize what they've lost until it is gone (nods to a song lyrics). By then, complacency will have replaced pariotism. Another posted that it has to return to educating our children. Unfortunately, that will be at odds with the programs already in place to steer our children into an acceptable "group-think" ie; turning in parents for global warming infractions and the such. It has to start at home. And it has to start with the examples, we as parents, set for the next generation. I can only hope that the words written and spoken above won't fall on deaf ears.
We have already collapsed. We're being held up temporarily by fiat currency, but that won't last. It never does. As far as failure being a personal choice…possibly, in some cases. Maybe even most cases. I personally know of many exceptions to that statement, and it would deeply wound those people to be told that.
I am constantly thankful that our "successes" or "failures" in this life are not judged by Men, but by God.
The "greatest nation since the dawn of civilization"? Perhaps, but that is like laying claim to the title of largest turd in the cesspool. There is no inherent honor in the title. We (men) did not make the Nation great…God did. We got rid of Him and look at us now. Where are the Mighty Men who will restore our greatness? It is beyond the power of Man to fix these problems unless it be by fervent prayer to the Creator to save us from ourselves.
Excellent article and the perfect way to kick off my reading round. IMHO the Progressives have, with this comically incompetent and absurdly overreaching administration, handed us a gift on a silver platter. That gift is the opportunity to exploit the historical moment to force them into open debate on the fundamental questions (your list being awful good)
Do Americans believe in private self-reliance or public largess? Do we believe in meritocracy or thugocracy? Do we reward success or failure? Do we stand upright or bow to the world? Do we wish to return America to fiscal order, or condemn future generations to debt slavery? Do we believe that solutions come through the ingenuity and toil of the American people, or from faceless bureaucrats in Washington? Do we wish to be the shining beacon of civilization, or a mere footnote in a history book? Do we believe in the individual, innovation, morality and the spontaneous and organic harmony of freedom or the collective, backward, perverted morality and destitution of centrally planned servitude?
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
Well, we are fallen you are right, but man is not inherently evil. He needs education precisely because he is fallen. Still every human person is good as created in the image of God and so ought to be educated and seek his own education. It's not rainbows and lollipops, it's "certain and inalienable rights" based in the notion of human dignity!!!!!!!!
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You'll get a much needed laugh!
Mr Mellon
Thanks for a couple of things (1) your family's support of the country in earlier, hard times (2) not being an elitist obscurantist flogging the tired cant of the left (3) helping people recognize the Leviathan. Now we need to keep promoting Hayek, even John Stossel is trying.
The problem with Americans is that they only know of freedom…Most have never been in a country where there isn't any..So to them to have Uncle Sam take care of them is not a problem…But with every new program from the Feds a liberty is lost….Take Owl Gore followers….they buy into his global warming agenda and "go green" while he lives in a mansion and fly's in a private jet…Its all about power and money for these people..they think once elected they are the royal family of the U.S….They elites have contempt for the common man…learn it and run them out of town…take away the power and money and they are weak little idiots.
"Do we stand upright or bow to the world? Do we wish to return America to fiscal order, or condemn future
generations to debt slavery? Do we believe that solutions come through the ingenuity and toil of the American
people, or from faceless bureaucrats in Washington?"
"How do we stop this?…It's been going on far too long!! I would love to see someone come up with solutions!
This didn't happen overnight, the liberals have slowly been eating away our country like a cancer for over a
100 years (in both parties)…I kind of feel like it's hopeless, and I don't like the feeling!! How do we get our
schools back to teaching facts and truth?…How do we get the entrenched politicians out of office when they
have the means to keep themselves entrenched? (They control the purse strings.) How do we convince people
working is far better then sitting home collecting a free lunch?…These hurdles are humongous!!
And he is surrounded by Marxists. They have patiently and carefully spun a web of lies. A whole generation is being enmeshed in that web.
Absolutely fantastic. I'm adding this to my Fight for the Right page. It contains the power of everything I believe in.
Having an open debate with a Progressive is like having an ass kicking contest with a one legged man.
What an excellent post. It's worth re-reading and passing along. It ties together a number of other posts on this site the past week, about our economic perils and the failures of Obama….how we got to this miserable place, and some big choices ahead. The opening quote from Reagan says it all.
I think, perhaps that by running up the leviathan debt that Obama has given us a once ain a lifetime opportunity to use austerity as the tool for destroying the progressive/liberal/leftist agenda. The next administration will be Republican, I'm pretty sure. The question is whether they are willing to say no to those in their own party who want to use the government as a feeding trough for their cronies.
Remember this: we have Obama because the Republican Party lost credibility on fiscal matters during the Bush years. The next (republican) administration needs demonstrate a clear unambiguous agenda for cutting the budget, preferably across the board, and the American people need to see clear and unambiguous evidence of that budget cutting every single day…or the democrats will be allowed back in to continue their dissolution of our country.
The government has been bankrupt, both morally, and fiscally for years. Our last best chance to save this country, slipped away with Reagan, in my opinion.
As a business owner for close to thirty years, I’ve seen failure and success, and know what’s required for both. Without exception when failure came, I got up, dusted myself off and went back to work. I never considered becoming a ward of the state, even if I was living in my car.
Cont: I have family members in construction, that have been in the trades for forty plus years that have made great lives for their families, that have vaporized in the “financial breakdown of ’08,” in the cesspool that is Fannie-Freddie, and the sub-prime debacle brought to us by the Community Reinvestment Act, and we mustn’t leave out Goldman-Sachs, AIG, and the brilliance of thirty to one derivatives. They want nothing from the government, but to enforce our laws and send around 10 million illegals home, and they can correct their own lives.
Though we need to ask for guidance from the Good Lord, we also must get off our knees, and face down this slow motion tragedy (Washington) squarely, lest we leave this for our children’s children. Now that would be immoral!
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An equivalent line between the great Ronald Reagan and Barry, now that’s funny!
Reminds me a little of a spoiled rich kid, who inherited great wealth but little wisdom or discipline, and frittered awayj the inheritance selfishly instead of preserving and growing it for future generations.
This theme, thank God, is beginning to proliferate in the minds of more and more Americans..
I for one will not be disheartened if we do not make a clean sweep in the next two coming elections….
not because we must look to elected officials to reinstate the level liberty that was the destiny for our country….
all we need from them is to is buy us some time….
The real solution exists within the awakening of the individual and that will require a generation of enlightenment.
….Retaking our institutions, a long journey…. and as I see it… a good start would be to have the next first graders begin each class with…….."I pledge…with liberty and justice for all"
I hear you. I've seen more than my share of adversity in my own life. Like you, I've never looked to the Gov't for a hand out. I haven't owned my business as long as you have, but I'm sure I've learned those same lessons. I also agree that we have an immigration problem. I spent about 20 years in construction (1980-2000).
My objection to part of your original post was that people like us who have tried and failed and are still trying feel bad enough about our failures without having others heap scorn and shame on us on top of our failure.
All people are not equal. Some try and fail so badly that they can't recover on their own. You mention living in your car…been there and done that. What if you weren't lucky enough to have that car to live out of? What if you got slammed right down to rock bottom? As bad as we've had it, that's not near as bad as it gets. Imagine yourself worse off than you've ever been (due to an honest mistake or possibly even through no fault of your own). Now imagine that everyone you met piled scorn and shame on you because of your circumstance. Pretty crappy picture, isn't it?
I'm not advocating laziness and free lunches…just a little compassion by way of forbearing to ridicule that portion of the unfortunate population who actually need and deserve a helping hand up.
I actually think we're on the same page on all of this stuff. I didn't mean my original reply as an attack, but as a reminder to everyone on this board not paint everyone with that same brush. Now that I have explained myself to the best of my abilities, I will offer my apology for an offense I may have caused and move on.
Everyone asks "how?". Well, just keep Praying. Bring God back into your life. Good will prevail over evil.
The problem is Progressives are very much set in their ideology. So, it will take an awful lot of ass kicking to get them to finally stand down. Welcome to the fight.
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
No apology necessary. If a person needs a hand up, I don’t have a problem with that. I get angry when it becomes a lifestyle, and that was my original intent.
I have to agree that freedom without morality is another way to fail. To the extent that Judeo-Christian principles are widely adopted, or whatever other name one wants to give it, ("doing the right thing"), we're better off. I don't think it's entirely coincidental that most of our current problems exploded at a time of growing secularism.
New Tea Party events are coming… attend the one closest to you! There is strength in numbers. Get involved. Volunteer to walk precincts and make calls. Register voters. This is the Second American Revolution!
I think Obama should just start lip synching Regans speeches, he can't speak a single sentence without a teleprompter anyway, and you Seymour don't understand the concept of plagirism.
Seymour here is a bible hating, constitution hating, everything american hating piece of loathsome crap. Take a look at his blog.
I think instead of water boarding the jihadist animals we should just make them listen to a tape of Seymour's ramblings.
They have a moral code but you will never hear them enumerate it's principles because as you have pointed out it is based on theft and coercion.
If we ever do end up with a 3rd party ( and that is up to you GOP, reform or die, your choice because the democratic party is finished and you are not far behind if you keep playing game ) we should simply call it the "American"
What fun we could have with that, let the MSM try and attack the "American" party, which they surely would and by doing so make themselves even less popular and trusted then they already are as a consequence swell its ranks.
It's about time the tired "Teleprompter" crap was put to rest.
1) ALL politicians use teleprompters.
2) Obama won three Presidential debates without one.
3) He has acquitted himself well on shows like Meet the Press for up to an hour totally ex tempore.
Now you have libeled me, Unthinking Man. While I admit to hating the stupid Bible, I do not hate the Constitution. Nor do I hate "everything American". I do hate right-wing sphincters, but they are NOT America!
Seymour Hersch, is that you?We sneer at BHO because he is a stumbling, bumbling FOOL compared to Reagan. What a nut you are to even attempt to compare that rabble rousing 'community organiser' to one of the greatest Statesmen of his time, Ronald Reagan.
The very fact that BHO can't even speak without at least two TOTUS' at hand is all any sentient person would need to see in order to know BHO couldn't hold the Gippers jockstrap.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
The "great" Ronald Reagan used teleprompters and speechwriters, too. And I can't help but feel that if Obama cited previous luminaries without attribution Rightists would be raking him over the coals for it! For DECADES! You people never let ANYTHING go!
Sorry, you utterly fail at psychoanalyzing me in cyberspace. I do not regret voting for Obama and will vote to re-elect Obama. Do you people remember how low Reagan's approval ratings were after his first year? But the economy got better, it was "Morning in America", and you know the rest. History will repeat itself.
Keep looking for sanity, Skippy.
Answer my post coward.
If Obama had cited rhetoric from previous luminaries without attribution I have no doubt that Rightists would rake him over the coals for it. For the next several decades! Rightists are supremely petty and never let ANYTHING go!
You are quickly becoming my favorite writer amonst many excellent writers on this site, Mr.Mellon. Thank you for the prescient, thought provoking article.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Wasn't talking about you personally but Rightists in general. The fact that you think I was is called "delusion of reference" and is a feature of Paranoid Schizophrenia. I am not surprised.
Oh shove it statist, we all know what you are about.
Our nation was founded by "Bible Thumpers"? You mean like Jefferson, who cut out all the ridiculous miracle stories in the Gospels and was called an Atheist by the clergy of his time? You mean like Madison (Father of the Constitution) who was a liberal Episcopalian (not Fundamentalist) used the exact words "Separation of the Church from the State"? Do you mean the Unitarian John Adams who wrote, "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."? Do you mean all the Masons (George Washington), and Deists (Ben Franklin)? Who WERE these Bible Thumpers who allegedly founded this country?
Freedom cannot exist without Morality.This is so readily apparent today, with Freedom meaning Free to do anything we wish, regardless of consequences.In todays society Moral Relativism is rampant, allowing the attitude of 'Just Do It' to permeate to our very core.Good post Melinda.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
It's too late, people. The economic decline of America cannot be halted for all your fulminating. See, once upon a time we had a President who inherited record deficits and eventually turned them into record surpluses. The fiscal house WAS in order. We COULD have paid off the National debt entirely, but then we had another President who insisted on giving hue, unnecessary, and unrequested tax cuts to the rich. Plus fighting a misbegotten war. The result was an ocean of red ink. I tried to raise concerns about the Deficit back then, but these concerns were summarily dismissed by the same people who are making a big deal about them now. They swallowed any reservations out of party loyalty, and the hate spewed at Obama is a delayed reaction. At least he had a good reason to run deficits– to prevent the economy from collapsing into Depression– then you'd REALLY have something to squawk about! But it's too late to set the house in order. You should have backed me up years ago instead of calling me an America hater for my troubles.
Do Americans believe in private self-reliance or public largess?
They believe in having enough money to satisfy their desires. The source of said money is secondary to that.
Do we believe in meritocracy or thugocracy?
Neither, they just want their income guaranteed. If meritocracy achieves that, so be it. If not . . .
Do we reward success or failure?
They want their family not to starve, or even be "needy", no matter what.
Do we stand upright or bow to the world?
More importantly, do we shrink from engaging the world out of some abstract appeal to a theoretical neutrality that is impossible to maintain in the current state of the world?
Do we wish to return America to fiscal order, or condemn future generations to debt slavery?
Whichever enables the flow of money as noted above.
Do we believe that solutions come through the ingenuity and toil of the American people, or from faceless bureaucrats in Washington?
When too much rhetoric is based on appeals to faceless and long dead political philosophers, theorists, and former elected officials, how can you expect the answer to be anything but from "someone else"? The very essence of cumulative knowledge and body of law used in citation trains those who do not study it other than casually to expect solutions solely from faceless others, especially if they can provide a sound bite quote to support their prescription.
Do we wish to be the shining beacon of civilization, or a mere footnote in a history book?
Again, as long as we are getting paid . . .
Do we believe in the individual, innovation, morality and the spontaneous and organic harmony of freedom or the collective, backward, perverted morality and destitution of centrally planned servitude?
And again still, as long as we do not face hardship while relying on said individuality.
It is not that the ideals highlighted in those questions are wrong, far from it.
It is that they are overlook that when push comes to shove, people are going to default to survival over idealism, and grasp at any support thrown to them while they are drowning in an unthinking, uncaring, sea of raw economic activity.
To ignore that basic human drive is to embrace the constant cycle of history, including the inevitable revolution, and condemn yourself to never achieving all those grand goals.
PROVE it. The way you people use that slur indicates it is entirely too broad and to you means just about anything.
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Across the board cuts? I'll believe it when I see it. Republicans will NEVER cut the Pentagon, no matter how much waste is there. Neither are they, as eager corporate lapdogs, going to cut Corporate Welfare. The GOP does not have what it takes to set our economic house in order. I think no one does. We had a balanced budget and surpluses not too long ago. You should have been happy with that, instead of seeking any excuse to ruin the man who accomplished that.
The American Party? That was the name of a racist party of the late 60's, early 70's. A gathering place for actual Kluxers and the like. But hey, if you want to be saddled with that baggage, be my guest!
If I'm a statist that leaves no place for you but as an Anarchist. And I should remind you to maintain a civil tone. Or are Rightists all such boors?
I answered it. Why did you not notice?
A stumbling, bumbling fool? Sounds like Reagan. You know, the guy who fell asleep in Cabinet meetings after telling a lot of stories about Hollywood in the Thirties. The guy who didn't recognize his own Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. The guy who said he'd helped to liberate Concentration Camps when he never left stateside! The guy who said, "It's a fact: Ninety percent of pollution is caused by plants and trees." TREES CLEAN THE AIR!
Reagan is a vastly overrated BIG NOTHING. People worship the legend while not knowing the reality. He LIBERALIZED abortion as Governor. He put through the biggest TAX INCREASE in the state's history. He had a furlough program that released two guys who went on to commit murder (one victim a cop). But none of this matters to Reganolators.
I think you guys agree more than you think. To the original point, of course education is part of the problem, Including some real history education, beyond memorizing names & dates, or reciting progressive revisiont versions of history. One of the basic history lessons, alluded to in Mr. Mellon's article is that many of the founders recognized human imperfection, which was one reason for limited government, and separation of powers.
".. unrequested tax cuts to the rich…"….Seymour!…is it really that simple???
The only thing wrong with Bush's "misbegotten war" is that it should have been started by Jimmy Carter,…
Deficits, surpluses…. they come and go…and paying for wars and still provide the home front with butter,,,,been there, done that.
Yes this latest economic crisis is the biggest game we will have played in a long time,… I will not presume, like you, to know the answer so let me just ask this question about this biggest game…..
Why did our coach (Obama), at this most crucial time,have to bench our first string.
President Reagan was not trying to tell a lie. That is why Obama can't say everything he believes in the way Reagan did. Or any honest American for that matter. Obama must lower his voice and hope no one is listening critically.
You definitely sound like Seymour Hersch, was the CIA involved in any of this? I was alive during the Reagan Presidency, dolt. I know what happened.You're a whacko, I think your tin foil hat is on too tight. Careful, your obsessive hatred is showing, you'd better wipe the spittle off your monitor.You deny BHO is a stumbling, bumbling fool?Uhmm, erhh, aahh, well, ahh, let me be perfectly clear here, uhmm, well, that is, ahmm……….D'oh. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Moral relativism is a blight. Lots of things are simply right or wrong, and evil does exist in the world, and sometimes must be confronted. Some people who pride themselves on their advanced intellect have the hardest time accepting that.
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So true, well said. "Pride cometh before a fall".When people elevate themselves to a God-like status through a sense of self-worth brought on by their intellect they become hardened to anything that conflicts with their ego, even truth."There's only one God and you ain't him"! ~Roy Masters, one of my favorite quotes. ;^) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Yes, it's really that simple. When you cut taxes but not spending, you get deficits. Then when you fight an expensive and totally unnecessary war without paying for it, you get even more deficits. Bush ruined our economic house, and we're seeign a delayed outrage reaction.
As for Carter starting a war against Iraq in the 70's, WHY? War should be a last resort, not a whim, and at the time Saddam was OUR boy, and his regime a counterweight against Iran. It remained so through the Reagan years, and if you don't believe me there's a photo of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam.
So tell us, WHY should we have gone to war against a secular regime that had, at THAT point, not done ANYTHING to undermine our national security??
Definition, Troll: Anyone with an opinion contrary to mine, that I am totally unsuited to dispute.
– no moe deceit
Stop the deficits! HOW? RAISE TAXES. On whom? ON THE RICH. Not the poor. And I'm sure we can cut a lot of wasteful spending, too, starting with the Pentagon. But to Rightists, even wasted funds makes them feel safer.
So are we to conclude that stammmering is the worst possible offense? Not being ill-informed and delusional like Good King Ronald?
You are correct- but are only telling half of the story. Clinton was blessed with Gingrich and Dole, and with that trifecta in power, the budget got balanced. The question is: if the Republicans take complete control, and there is no opposition party to balance them out in terms of spending…will we end up the way we did under Bush/Delay?
Unfortunately we really only have that example to go on-Bush/Delay, unless we use Obama/Pelosi/Reid as an example, then the answer would be an absolute yes–one party rule leads to unrestrained spending.
If divided government leads to restraint in spending, then I'm all for it.
You are trying to do a battle of wits with an unarmed individual.
You are a contrite imbecile, are you called by your first name when you pull your head out of your anal cavity?
The free market did not drive our jobs overseas and kill our entrepreneurial spirit with over-taxation, over-regulation and frivolous lawsuits, the government did.
The free market did not ban drilling for oil, vilify coal and block the building of nuclear power plants in the United States, thereby transferring hundred of billions of dollars of American wealth and many thousands of energy-industry jobs to foreign countries, the government did.
This crisis is the result of a giant social engineering experiment and vote-buying scheme gone tragically wrong.
The free market does not try to engineer society or buy votes, the government does.
The government caused this crisis, the free market did not.
The government cannot fix the crisis, the free market can.
If you support Obama you are a statist. What the hell are you talking about anarchist, that doesn't even make sense. Screw your civil tone, I have had it up to here with you cowardly leftists and your outright attack on our constitution. Answer the question I asked you or shove it jerk.
I do not sneer, but you leftists constantly attack and refuse to debate with substance, as you are doing here.
I repeat so what exactly is your point, if there is one, other than to sneer at us?
You responded but you did not answer.
The tools of the left, lie, deflect, blame, attack.
A Rightist? I suppose that's one who favors Rights of Individuals, count me in! Who in the hell are you to tell someone to maintain a civil tone anyway? Are you gonna' go home and take your ball with you?Awww…buh-bye. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Ha ha ha….kinda' like your posturing and ranting about Ronald Reagan?The very Ronald Reagan who presided in the office of POTUS decades ago?What a delusional hypocrite you are Seymour.
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He didn't use teleprompters, re-visionist jackass(just using the dem icon, mind you).,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Left-wing sphincters(aka Seymour) are definitely NOT America.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
I agree about stopping the deficit!
Raise taxes on the rich??? That's rediculous! Why punish success? Why should a rich person have to carry more of the burden than anyone else? Taxes are already too high!
The secret is cutting all the wasteful spending!!! Nobody in Congress is going to champion that tho… they're all too corrupt. For example… Congress gave themselves a raise after denying COLA for SS recipients.
Which brings me to another point. The US needs to do away with all policies that create different classes f people… such as taxing rich differently than poor. Or, allowing Congress to break laws and not face the law.
kind of like your esteemed Democrat leader Robert Byrd, the Kleagle of West Virginia?
WAR IS HELL there Seymour……so don't you think that….
It's best to nip the situation in the bud before it grows into a big bang affair……
But than… there is something to going to war after a Pearl harbor or a World Trade happening…
It does make the…"Going over there, over there and we won't be… " a little more palatable.
Oh and that photo of Rumsfeld and Saddam shaking hands…kinda reminded me of the FDR sitting with Stalin photo.
The good thing about that photo is that only one of these two guys went home to socialism…..
Which brings us back to our situation today…. I am not an economist there Seymour but I say lets give the rich folks one more tax cut and see what happens.
There are many places one could start cutting the budget without biting deeply into national defense; which happens to be a key responsibility and a primary reason for the formation of the Federal Government. (ref – Preamble; US Constitution).
In fact, comparing the Federal budget against the Constitution to determine which funded projects are actually; you know, appropriate and legal to pursue with taxpayer dollars would be a great place to start.
"History will repeat itself."
Obama will win the Cold War and usher in a free and prosperous US market?! Damn… who would thought it…
I've been comparing our Tea Party Goals and our comments the Constitution Party's Platform… Ttheir Platform is spelled out exactly as possible using the same philosophies and Document (s) that our Founders used, or I should say created.
http://www.constitutionparty.com
I generally agree with them as I'm a "bible thumper" as were a very large % of Decl of Independence signers.
Our work(s) with the Tea Party Movement is having much more effect now, than the influences of the Constitution Party. They may have about 30 Topics of interest in their platform….There are some areas where I don't agree with, but it all has a Moral Appproach.
While I appreciate your efforts to find the common ground, I'm afraid that there is none to be found in this case. Any discussion of education must be predicated on the type of philosophy upon which that education is based. Our current education system is fatally flawed because it is predicated on a secular humanist philosophy that places Man as the ultimate repository of knowledge in the universe. This concept is totally ludicrous, narcissistic and evil at its root. This is the reason we have Climategate.
As for our system of government: It has been said that it was meant for a moral and religious society and is wholly unsuited for the governance of any other. I think that the truth of these words is being proved out as we speak.
There is a civil war playing out in this country and across the globe right now. It is between the Godly and the Godless. Only one side can prevail. It is no longer possible to peaceably co-exist. There is not enough room left on this planet for both sides. A reckoning is at hand. Pick a side.
"He has acquitted himself well on shows like Meet the Press for up to an hour totally ex tempore. "
You know… uh… I'm going to… uh… have to.. uh… disagree… uh, uh… with you there.
"Man" in the larger sense is inherently evil. Education does not give man enlightenment – enlightenment comes with the understanding that man, without tribute to God, is subject to inherent evil.
America was founded on this understanding and our Founding Fathers incorporated this truth into our Declaration of Indepence and Constitution.
Thanks for your posting….If our youngsters were inherently good, we would not need to spank them or discipline them. Even the Headhunters of the Amazon or African Jungles had discipline or rules made by their Chief.
The hardest thing for me to do after I became a "bible thumper" was to un-learn the Lies that had been taught to me….So, we have to Un-Learn then Re-Learn….
Sure, the Unverse is marvelous….The Theory of the "Big Bang" is being totally over-hauled as we "speak".
The Theory of Evolution is sunk!…because of D.N.A. studies, Geology Studies and other areas.
The only good, inherent thing that we are born with, I'll say is our Conscience, which is given to all mankind. And, in today's real world, some Consciences are getting "seared as with a hot iron" (Bible talk)
If you knew anything about our history you wouldn't say that. All the Ivy league Colleges were seminaries for the Christian Church. When prayer was taken out the the schools in 64 all the drugs and abortions and even learning went down. I'll bet you didn't know that either. It is our Judeo-Christian beliefs that have made this country great. As we get further and further away from our origins things will continue to get worse.
Interesting sidenote:
As Ronald Reagan entered his second year of office (1982), his approval rating stood at 49%. A dismal economy, and the inevitable off year election brought the rating down to 41% by the end of 1982. We all know the end of that story.
We should keep that in mind as we view Obama's 51% approval rating.
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