Is President Obama Using Executive Powers To Organize Angry Anti-Capitalist Protests On The Streets Of America?
by Andrew MarcusFrom the cheap seats, it sure does look like the President of the United States is using the powers of the Executive to coordinate with Andy Stern to organize a series of protests entitled “Showdown In America.”
Earlier, we posted about the links between Andy Stern’s SEIU and a group called National People’s Action (NPA). NPA, together with SEIU and the AFL-CIO, is organizing a series of angry marches against Wall Street and capitalism.
NPA is a very dangerous and radical group that isn’t shy about its radical philosophy.
Who’s on your hit list NPA? Who’s on your hit list for today?
Take no prisoner, take no names.
Kick ‘em in the ass when they play their games.A slumlord never seems to learn
Until we show up at his door
and catch him with the neighborhood whore.
He’s the middleman; he puts nothing back,
dealing with HUD, taking kickbacks.
Don’t think that we won’t spread the word, we’ll fry your ass, rest assured.
NPA wrote the dreaded Community Reinvestment Act which community organizers like Barack Obama used to shake down banks.
It turns out that President Obama is even closer to the group than the two degrees of separation represented by the most frequent White House visitor, and Obama administration Debt Commission advisor, Andy Stern.
President Obama is very close with NPA board member, John McKnight. Mr. McKnight also sits on the board of the Gamaliel foundation where President Obama worked as a community organizer.
Mr. McKnight also wrote President Obama’s letter of recommendation for Harvard Law School.
In the video below, Mr. McKnight glowingly refers to President Obama as one of his students whom he helped discover.
NPA, which is organizing angry mobs to protest against capitalism, is very tight with the Prez, and the Prez is very tight with them.
The fix is in.
Change is coming.
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All part of the plan to use his personal "purple shirts" (aka brown shirts) to further control the serfs as we move toward that heaven-on-earth Venezuela, and Obama transforms himself into Hugo Chavez II! consider yourselves transformed, America! (How's it working, so far?)
Nothing surprises me anymore, these days.
Friends don't let friends vote for socialist progressives!
History has detailed that this is how one begins the platform for total collapse of a Nation. In Greece yesterday the Unions burned people alive with molotov cocktails, In New York City last week the AFL-CIO stormed banks and prohibited them their ability to conduct business, in France the Unions take managers hostage, ACORN stalked AIG executives homes when our President blatantly lied about executive bonuses, that he signed into legislation, SEIU members beat a man senseless, our own President incited violence in Arizona by blatantly lying and stating people will be harassed and stopped with the new immigration legislation. Never has a U.S. President done more harm to this great Country and this is just the beginning.
Looks like it's going to be a long hot summer.
Greece is just the beginning…
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industri...
This "austerity plan" WILL fail in Greece and the Germans know it if you thought the last year was tough wait until the next collapse.
"Government is never the answer, government IS the problem!" ~Ronald Reagan
Greece is just the beginning…
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industri...
This "austerity plan" WILL fail in Greece and the Germans know it if you thought the last year was tough wait until the next collapse.
"Government is never the answer, government IS the problem!" ~Ronald Reagan
"Why don't his 'handlers' remind him that he has already won the office so he stops campaigning and starts BEING president"
Quite simply because his ACTUAL "handlers" are not his political underlings, but super-national money interests who's plans require obama to sell their agenda for reordering the world. (That's not conspiracy theory. It's extrapolation of facts)
They, and he, are not concerned with advancing the best interests of America. And THAT is why nothing he does appears to be "presidential." Because it is not.
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What the HELL are we living through?
Is this Regime an interactive theater group, and are we all being manipulated to play our part
without seeing the script?
Where's the damned EXIT? I refuse to be in this play.
FIGHT on PATRIOTS ! ! !
Anti-capitalist, anti-free enterprise, anti-Christian, anti-Whitey, anti-Big Oil, anti-Big Pharma, anti-Big Finance, anti-Insurance, anti-Wall Street, anti-troops, anti-Navy seals, anti-oil, anti-coal, anti-natural gas, anti-Marines, anti-constitution, anti-accountability/responsibility, anti-Tea Party, anti success, anti-defense, anti-Arizona.
MacDaddy's enemy/hate list grows every day. His socialist administration needs something to demonize every day, its fueled by hate.
Exactly right. I'd just add one word for clarity. "Somehow we have to make the trade union MEMBERS realize"
I suggest it's time for the Republicans to go Reaganesque on the union leadership and bypass them all together. The same way that Reagan bypassed the established party leadership and spoke directly to the People, the Republicans should speak directly to the hard working American public with a plan to help improve their lives. Let the democrats keep their union leadership ties, then let them try to run on "improving (expanding) the government."
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Wake up people, this guy (Obama) will use any means necessary to get what he wants. He is far more dangerous than any foreign terrorist. He's a wolf in sheeps clothing….so don't be surprised when the slaughter begins.
When will they burn the Reichstag?
It's called "walking around" money. It's Obama's stash. It's actually money from the "Ba-al-out" scheme.
Remember who Obama is – a street organizer with a megaphone, a rabble-rouser – and with a lot of our money to throw into the mobs he leads.
We are being led by children of Beelzebub whose only goal is to remove all Christians from the face of the earth.
I would call it shake-down of America instead.
THIS HOPE AND CHANGE STUFF SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Writing congress ain't workin, the so called Tea Party Revolt, if yesterday's primary is any clue, is hype and not much else, with RECORD LOW VOTER TURNOUT AND OLD GUYS AND PARTY HACKS SWEEPING THE PRIMARIES…
time for plan B.
Put your money in trust to your kids and QUE UP FOR YOUR SHARE OF THE REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH.
THE FEWER THERE ARE OF US TO TAKE FROM, THE FASTER THIS SIDE SHOW WILL RUN STRAIGHT OFF THE RAILS AND OVER THE CLIFF.
GET SMART, NOT MAD. WORK IT, BABY!
MAKE YOURSELF QUALIFIED FOR OBAMA'S LARGESS WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY! THEN ONCE IT ALL GOES STRAIGHT TO HELL, RECLAIM YOUR WEALTH AND START OVER BUILDING BUSINESSES AND HIRING WORKERS….NON UNION…..WHO ARE, AFTER ALL, THE FOLKS WHO BUILT THIS NATION!
Works for me!
I like the way you think, Chi Ralph………so what IS the common thread among all those construction trade
type guys? I suppose most of them get up, go to work and do the job, every day with the belief that their
lives will continually get better, because their fathers' did and so far theirs has.
I
When the Obama manufacturing Czar, Ron Bloom, who is also an SEIU former official, Harvard Grad, and has alleged close ties with ACORN, can proudly proclaim " power grows out of the barrel of a gun" you know we have a problem. Like Obama's other advisor Anita Dunn, they worship, and quote Chairman Mao who was responsible for almost 60 million deaths. Really digest that for a minute, Mao brutally slaughtered and starved to death men, women and children and our President's closet advisors worship and quote him with great admiration. It is truly depraved indifference for human life, so heinous were the crimes committed, and our Government officials embrace the philosophy.
OBAMA F-UP ALERT…OBAMA F-UP ALERT….OBAMA F-UP ALERT!
BP EXEMPTED….BP EXEMPTED…BP EXEMPTED
WASH POST: The decision by the department's Minerals Management Service (MMS) to give BP's lease at Deepwater Horizon a "categorical exclusion" from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on April 6, 2009 — and BP's lobbying efforts just 11 days before the explosion to expand those exemptions — show that neither federal regulators nor the company anticipated an accident of the scale of the one unfolding in the gulf.
Just hang on until Nov. If the party of obstruction (YEA TEAM!) can just obstruct until the elections then THE CHOSEN ONE's agenda (THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT) can be stopped. We are stuck with him until 2012 but at least with a majority in the house and maybe the senate he will only be sent bills that:
A. Have been read by more than just henchmen
B. Have a basis in reality
C. Don't drive the country over the debt cliff
They can de-fund the health care monster until it can be repealed in 2012!
Thanks, Chi-Ralph.
We've been repeating it for five years….wherever and whenever (and as loudly) as we can. The difference is more people are listening now.
By way of example only:
http://laborunionreport.blogspot.com/2010/05/show...
Thanks, Chi-Ralph.
We've been repeating it for five years….wherever and whenever (and as loudly) as we can. The difference is more people are listening now.
By way of example only:
http://laborunionreport.blogspot.com/2010/05/show...
[...] Burger have direct access to the White House, according to Big Government writer Andrew Marcus, President Obama’s history with NPA predates even his history with the SEIU. Which begs the question Marcus [...]
Umph. I never thought of the motivation of the union /members/, but, yeah, I think you are right. The average Joe knows things are getting worse and the rabble rousers are screaming that "those guys" are to blame.
(You say "trade unions", but I think you mean the rank and file?)
The remenants of the entertainment industry is still in the Leftoid camp. Hey, I wonder if the local cable companies are in on this? Any new shows we might get on the air would be buried under the hundreds of other shows the cable companies package together… Maybe it's just a fortunate coincidence for them?
An easy 90% of them are simply tools. If they succeed in setting up what they think they want, they are going to be purged.
I don’t have a lot of time today. I have to run out and get a couple of cases of Arizona Ice Tea…the extra large cans, then help my son with his Arizona State application just before I order my DBack's tickets and make my vacation plans for Phoenix, Lake Powell and the Grand Canyon. But I would like to add a serious note; this administration is an American disgrace. A massive media generated and supported mistake. American's saw the man, heard what they wanted to hear and see and went to the polls and elected anyone but Bush. This is one tough lesson to learn and I hope America has learned to listen, really listen to what its leaders say. Today we are debating whether or not Obama is a socialist. Whatever you call it he is an extremist trying to make over America in the most un-American way and now thank god without the hordes of adoring fans. It has taken me the better part of a lifetime to become a solid, smart, inventive, supportive executive. Obama is an absolute amateur. He has no experience managing ANYTHING and we are going to pay the price before we throw these anti American bums out this fall and again in 2012. Is it 2012 yet?
A Proud California Conservative
The only good thing about the rule of Barack Obama is that he has expossed the "liberals". For decades they have said it was "paranoid" or "hysterical" for anyone to suggest that they were soft on Marxism.
Yet when a life long Marxist (Barack Obama) runs for President nearly all (there have been a few honourable exceptions) the "liberals" SUPPORT him – and they still do. For example their books sneer at anyone who points out that Frank Marshall Davis was a Communist (without ever saying "Frank Marshall Davis was not a a Communist" because, of course, he was) and they sneer at any foe of Obama as "hysterical" without ever refuting any of the specific charges that are made.
This is not an accident and it is not stupidty or ignorance – the "liberals" know what Barack Obama and his associates are (just as well as we do). They have chosen to side with the Communists – well let them, and let them (and their "mainstream" media and "education system") go down with the Communists.
They certainly did not sign on to what this man to offer,…the
problem is that,….
The libs package their message,..\”Us against Them such as
Us against the BANKS.
As those of us who come in contact with the honest blue collar segment,.
the common tread is a 40hr. work week.
They certainly did not sign on to what this man to offer,…the
problem is that,….
The libs package their message,..\”Us against Them such as
Us against the BANKS.
As those of us who come in contact with the honest blue collar segment,.
the common tread is a 40hr. work week.
They certainly did not sign on to what this man to offer,…the
problem is that,….
The libs package their message,..\”Us against Them such as
Us against the BANKS.
As those of us who come in contact with the honest blue collar segment,.
the common tread is a 40hr. work week.
They certainly did not sign on to what this man to offer,…the
problem is that,….
The libs package their message,..\”Us against Them such as
Us against the BANKS.
As those of us who come in contact with the honest blue collar segment,.
the common tread is a 40hr. work week.
They certainly did not sign on to what this man to offer,…the
problem is that,….
The libs package their message,..\”Us against Them such as
Us against the BANKS.
As those of us who come in contact with the honest blue collar segment,.
the common tread is a 40hr. work week.
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Ho hum.
"not being about to win at the polls"
Ha ha ha ha. That's a good one. Have you SEEN the polls? We will decimate most on your side. Then we will launch investigations into the actions of the rest. And that will lead to the decimation of your entire party.
You think we'll be satisfied with just gaining a majority? Dream on. We're coming after you and every other subversive element in your traitorous party.
Here's a phrase for you to get used to, "We are just six months away from the fundamental REFORMATION of America. Bwa ha ha ha.
You are talking about daily opinion polls. The only polls that count come every two years and you have lost two in a row due to incompetence. And now you are in such a deep hole that it is unlikely you will win the house, and almost impossible to win the senate for at least two more years. And by then the economy will be back on track. So no, I don't see a great shift in government in eight months.
Best vote I've ever cast. I'm only sorry the president is term-limited.
Best vote I've ever cast. I'm only sorry the president is term-limited.
Best vote I've ever cast. I'm only sorry the president is term-limited.
[...] Of we knew it was coming. Your ever militant and thug unions, ready to act as the private police state force of TMN, would be sent out to use brownshirt tactics to cower all opposition to the fascist progressive agenda. Get ready with picture and video phones to document for YouTube the union atrocities of TMN and SEIU. If pictures are worth a thousand words then video is worth a million words. We are Americans, free and uncompromising. Show these union thugs, TMN and the state-run media we won’t go quietly into the night. [...]
In 1925, the Communist Party U.S.A. told its members:
"The aim of our Party in our work among the Negro masses is to create a powerful proletarian movement which will fight and lead the struggle of the Negro race against the exploitation and oppression in every form and which will be a militant part of the revolutionary movement of the whole American working class … and connect them with the struggles of national minorities and colonial peoples of all the world and thereby the cause of world revolution and the dictatorship of the proletariat."
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
You really are making me laugh, because I almost pre-quoted in my comment what you would say in your response. You are so predictable.
"The only polls that count come every two years"
Yes, but every election day poll is always preceded and predicted by public opinion polls. And the majority of People aren't just against the democrats, they are DISGUSTED with the democrats. They rightly feel threatened by the democrats. And they will move heaven and earth to see that they are defeated.
And remember:
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"We are just six months away from the fundamental REFORMATION of America."
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Excuse me Ralph. Just predicting miki t's response to my comment above:
"you didn't quote my entire statement…………."
Just guessing.
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If we was any more awake we'd be bouncing off the walls, bub. You want to talk to the people who don't read this site.
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You seem to think righty can win in November just by not being Democratic. But to win the huge landslides you will need to reclaim both houses of congress you will need to stand for something and not just be against everything the president is doing. Right now you got nothing and time is running out.
Your biggest nightmare would be to win small majorities in the congress and then have the responsibility to govern. Now that's when you would see some payback.
Another PATHETIC RADICAL group with their HEADS UP THEIR @$$! Here's and excerpt from their song: "A slumlord never seems to learn he brushes us off with no concern"! Do these MORONS know that Valerie Jarret, the annointed one's closest aide is a SLUMLORD! How about obummer's good friend and supportor tony rezko? Just like andy scumbag stern's seiu IGNORANT followers. Their recruitment slogan should be "IGNORANT MORONS OF THE WORLD UNITE"! Don't these IGNORANT MORONS know that many of obummer's CRONIES in the White House are former Goldman employees, and VERY RICH ones at that? Where has the intelligence level of this country gone, when we see MASSES of STUPID, UNINFORMED, SHEEP that follow these clowns? My message to these STUPID SHEEP is take a good look at Greece. HOW DO YOU THINK GREECE GOT THAT WAY? Hint, Wall Street had nothing to do with it!
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Friend, you have not been betrayed by the press.
You have probably been busy working. Being productive. Contributing to the material economy. Building a career. Taking care of your family. Raising your kids. Saving your money. Buying and paying for a home.
Those of us who are doing those things: DON'T HAVE TIME.
We don't have time to organize. We don't have time to advocate. We feel an obligation to make something. To produce something. We embrace the personal responsibility of taking care of ourselves and our own.
We aren't infused with an ideological vigor to work to mobilize for 'change'.
You've not been betrayed by the press.
The modern MSM NEVER shared your views or values to begin with.
No, it's not about "not being Democratic," it's about not being a democrat. There's a difference.
And we don't need both houses of Congress this time around, we'll be happy with taking the House this time around, and the Senate and presidency next time around.
As for what we're for, I'll direct you to just ONE of our plans for governing:
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/
You may stumble on some of the big words on that site, but don't worry, come this summer we'll be spelling it out for you in thousands of commercials that even you can understand.
Of course you'll still hate our TRULY "progressive" (actually creating progress) ideas, but we can't be held responsible for your prejudices.
I'm prepared to give up neither, and will do my utmost to keep both.
And there we have it. When the details are rolled out, all the democrats have to run on is they're "not Bush."
Unfortunately for you, Bush isn't on the ballot, and your party is an epic failure.
Fortunately for all of us, the Conservatives will be doing the work to insure our future liberty.
Now why would you think that my differing political opinion makes me crazy? I don't think you're crazy… well, most of you anyway.
All part of the plan to use his personal "purple shirts" (aka brown shirts) to further control the serfs as we move toward that heaven-on-earth Venezuela, and Obama transforms himself into Hugo Chavez II! consider yourselves transformed, America! (How's it working, so far?)
President Obama is succeeding in dividing our country more than any other president in recent history. Why don't his 'handlers' remind him that he has already won the office so he stops campaigning and starts BEING president. The time for CHANGE is coming in November! VOTE!!!
Ah, the "classy" left…
"If you don't agree with us we'll beat you up, break your personal belongings and burn your house to the ground…"
This should be their official motto, their history sure supports it!
He said "Tell us what you have that we need."
My guess is this guy could never get another audience with the Dear One. Another useful idiot.
Purple is the new brown
Somehow we have to make the trade unions realize that Obama is not going bring back the construction boom
of the middle 80's to around 2006.
They are not a very big percentage of the work force, but if we turn them around, a greater percentage of blue collar America will follow.
1:59 "He said 'your the only proffesor i know that will write me a letter'. I didn't think he did to well in college"
“Every aristocracy (insert The Left) that has ever existed has behaved, in all essential points, exactly like a small mob,” wrote G. K. Chesterton
We’re dealing with a mob here, a destroyer here, and destroyer never builds anything. They may break windows, even burn down whole blocks, but after the streets are cleared and the fires burn out. Their destruction will be a blip on the timeline of history. They just don’t know it yet.
We the People will be there is take names, clear away the mess and build. That is what Americans do.
The Kenyan Marxist needs these hired fists to help him.His socialist policies are not going to fly without his thugs.
Looks like it's going to be a long hot summer.
It's depressing to see the parallels to the far worse – but not completely dissimilar – protesting going on currently in Greece. One thing the union organizers seem to be forgetting, though: This ain't Europe. They can make all the noise they want, but Americans in general don't go for the entitled class warfare crap the union bureaucrats and their pawns live on.
Here's hoping it stays that way!
They will be used, over time, some will alter to serve the modern monarchy. They are not useful fools as much as we are to believe the cretin Times Square failure is not a muslim terrorist.
It's disgusting to see what is going on with these people.
What is going on here in America is a Latin style marxist takeover. This is what they do in Venezuela and Nicaragua with their thugs to bring "street justice" to the dissenters. No one should ever forget that Obama backed the marxist takeover of Honduras over the Constitutional Republic.
I think it will backfire on them and show Obama for who he is. There are way way more of us than there is of them.
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Exactly, keep track of these traitors and then purge the system from top to bottom.
"………..In the video below, Mr. McKnight glowingly refers to President Obama as one of his students whom he helped discover…………"
So why does he not campaign to have Obama's Harvard works go public,………….
so we too can enjoy some of his "GLOW".
Gird your loins!
Give them time, they will riot.
May 1st was "amazingly" peaceful considering the coalitions of loons that the Arizona law brought together in fairly large numbers.
You have to wonder who gave the order to "change tactics" away from the historical violence and mayhem of every left wing protest in the past 40 years…
I smell an SEIU connection!
You have to ask yourself, how could this happen here without the help of the MSM? We have been betrayed big time.
Restore The Republic,
God Bless America
And as long as we have the Second Amendment, we can fight back against those who want to take our country away from us. That's something the middle class in Europe doesn't have and, until they decide to take control of their own destiny, will never have.
And as I indicated above, the 2nd Amendment allows us the ability to fight back. I'd propose a national open carry law (as California – of all places – has), but as long as Texas has a concealed carry law, there will be folks prepared to defend what's theirs from the thugs, thieves, and liars currently inhabiting our nation's capitol.
And I'd be happy to get rid of same currently infesting Austin, but at least they only inflict themselves upon us for 140 days every other year.
And as I indicated above, the 2nd Amendment allows us the ability to fight back. I'd propose a national open carry law (as California – of all places – has), but as long as Texas has a concealed carry law, there will be folks prepared to defend what's theirs from the thugs, thieves, and liars currently inhabiting our nation's capitol.
And I'd be happy to get rid of same currently infesting Austin, but at least they only inflict themselves upon us for 140 days every other year.
And "lock and load!"
Because this isn't about governing, it is about changing America forever.
the simple answer is YES…
It is what these people are all about. They don't have this power NOT to wield it; achieving it has been a lifelong goal. Not being spiritual in nature, humanism callously uses whatever tools it finds useful. Ergo, the systemic 'rudeness'- lack of civility- in all of their presentations. Then, when the opposition responds in kind, they have succeeded in coarsening the debate.
This, then gives them the often quite ugly baseline context in which to frame the debate. You become as bad as they- and since they really KNOW bad- you, who doesn't- loses. Only a really satanic movement would develop such tactics…
There is an inextricable link between freedom and capitalism. If you give up one, be prepared to give up the other.
It has become very apparent he thinks he was elected not as a President but as a Dictator. He is just re-defining the language as Progressives are wont to do.
Exactly.
We noticed the same thing Missy8s. It will be a long hot summer and they plan to build the case and then spill over in anger later.
Then we will take it.
The question must be asked even though never answered if he ever even attended.
But I bet plenty disgusts you as well.
Very LONG and VERY VERY HOT.
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The issue remains that they are ensconced in the seats of power, hopefully for just a short time.
The 4th Estate Died
The MSM had a part, but the real betrayal came from Americans who bought into the cult of personality instead of doing their homework and researching the candidates. I blame the American voters because of their apathy and laziness. Reasoning, logic and common sense are attributes of the past. Entitlement and whining about what you don't have is the new fashion of the day.
You put my sentiments so much better there Johnny
Once upon a time I would have dismissed the idea of the President of the United States organizing troops of "community activists" to hold orchestrated (and media- friendly) street protests as utter fantasy but now……..
SEIU and it's allies are capable of nearly anything in the name of their warped view of "social justice". They are certainly capable of manufacturing a "crisis in the streets" so that the Prez can appear in all of his MSM-approved glory to "heal the nation." As I said I would have once thought this to be paranoia but even paranoids have enemies.
Once upon a time I would have dismissed the idea of the President of the United States organizing troops of "community activists" to hold orchestrated (and media- friendly) street protests as utter fantasy but now……..
SEIU and it's allies are capable of nearly anything in the name of their warped view of "social justice". They are certainly capable of manufacturing a "crisis in the streets" so that the Prez can appear in all of his MSM-approved glory to "heal the nation." As I said I would have once thought this to be paranoia but even paranoids have enemies.
you said a mouthful there mac daddy
Isn't Valerie Jarrett a slum lord?
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